WEBVTT - You Might Be The Reason You're Single 

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<v Speaker 1>I record this podcast on Gaetigul Country. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>pay my respect to the traditional.

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<v Speaker 2>Custodians and I'm recording on Urando Country, part of the

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<v Speaker 2>cooler Nation. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're gonna dig this. It's like I've been

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<v Speaker 1>given like an extra sprinkle of something.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got layers, Yeah, I got layers. I was just thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we're just such beautiful storytellers.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making a lot of sense to that girl. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's I've been too honest to go. It's Valentine's this

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<v Speaker 2>week and we've got a really exciting episode. Today. We've

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<v Speaker 2>got a special guest called Trudy Gilbert. She's Australia's millionaire matchmaker.

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<v Speaker 2>As someone who's been very single and struggled with relationships

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<v Speaker 2>the last three years my own fault. I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 2>about this episode. I'm really feeling the love this year

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<v Speaker 2>in Valentine's Day as previous episodes not so much. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really excited, Maddie, welcome Truty so much.

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<v Speaker 1>H wow, I'm truly I mean Brook, you just mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>you are alone. Maybe you are the reason you are alone.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, thank you. That was very smooth, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a segue. But welcome to first things First,

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<v Speaker 1>it's such an honor to have you in studio. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a million and one questions for you, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>kick off with the book You Are the Reason You

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<v Speaker 1>Are Alone.

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<v Speaker 2>It is that touching itself. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it could be polarizing, but also an eye catcher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, very clive right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Look, the book is really confronting, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>it to be that way. There's a method behind the madness.

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<v Speaker 3>So over the last twenty years, I've been introducing singles

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<v Speaker 3>and when I speak to people, there seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>this common belief that love is this magical, mystical thing

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<v Speaker 3>that will just happen to you, that you'll walk around

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<v Speaker 3>the corner, you'll bump into the one, you'll live happily

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<v Speaker 3>ever after, and everything will be fine. But things couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>be further from the truth. So, you know, in today's

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<v Speaker 3>modern dating culture are fueled by dating apps, the immediacy

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<v Speaker 3>of social media, the instant gratification that we face on

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<v Speaker 3>websites like Amazon and Timu. We're being conditioned to feel

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<v Speaker 3>that love should be immediate and effortless, and it's really dangerous.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we have this mindset of like, well, if

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<v Speaker 3>something doesn't work immediately, then it must be wrong. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is so dangerous because it's making people feel stuck.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, it's convenient, isn't it. It's convenient to think

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<v Speaker 3>that love is this thing that's out of your control,

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<v Speaker 3>that's out of your hands, so that you feel that

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<v Speaker 3>you can absolve yourself from any kind of responsibility to it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's easy to blame things like, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 3>had bad luck, or I focused on my career, or

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<v Speaker 3>it's just been bad timing, whatever it is that you

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<v Speaker 3>want to tell yourself as to why you haven't found

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<v Speaker 3>that person, But you're avoiding the reality and the truth,

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<v Speaker 3>which is you are the common denominator in all of

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<v Speaker 3>those experiences, and so why haven't things worked? And I

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<v Speaker 3>wrote this book as a wake up call to kind

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<v Speaker 3>of tell people, listen, don't live in a fantasy. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>live in this Hollywood Disney movie where you think that

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<v Speaker 3>things are just gonna happen for you. You can take

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<v Speaker 3>ownership of your love life. You can make it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>There are things that you can do to fast track

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<v Speaker 3>the process. And when people start taking responsibility, stop blaming circumstances.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when real change can happen. So my book has

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<v Speaker 3>these proven practical strategies about how to shift your mindset,

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<v Speaker 3>how to take action and find love because happiness in

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<v Speaker 3>love isn't something that just falls into your lap. You

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<v Speaker 3>can create it and it's easier than you think once

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<v Speaker 3>you take the first step to actually embrace responsibility and

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<v Speaker 3>your part in the process.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I love that. You're a straight shooter. You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you have to look at yourself. You're

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<v Speaker 1>a common denominator in all of these I suppose failed

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<v Speaker 1>attempts at love. What is it about yourself? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a such an eye open up for people in relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>People's looking for love because I think you're right. These

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<v Speaker 1>days people just give up quickly. They just go, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, that didn't match my puzzle perfectly, that piece,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'm going to chuck you in the bin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to look for another one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm exhibit A of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wasn't going to say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I am very guilty of this truty. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>on those love reality TV shows. I live in that

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fantasy and it had been for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 2>because I guess I am one that, you know, just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of manifested or you know, use these fake things

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<v Speaker 2>on TV what I saw or what it should look like,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't know what love was like at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm not too sure. I haven't really psychoanalyzed myself

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<v Speaker 2>in that sense, but I have realized that the love

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<v Speaker 2>that I have with my dad is unconditional, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the love that I will hope that one

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<v Speaker 2>day that I'll have. But I'm guilty of this. Maddie knows.

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<v Speaker 2>This is that if someone does something that I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like it's doesn't really fit, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have to, like guess like train them, and I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of be a little bit dismissive. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm like, I need to work on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you exit quickly, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, Okay, So there's a lot of things that I

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<v Speaker 3>want to address there. First of all, the system is broken,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's not your fault for dismissing relationships really quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>As I said before, we have this mindset that, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's not great, you know, I'll just go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the apps and see who else is out there.

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<v Speaker 3>There's this concept of an endless sea of suitors. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you go on a date, it was nice, but it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't rock your world. Oh let me go see who

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<v Speaker 3>else is there, because there might be someone better. This

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<v Speaker 3>disposable dating mindset is really dangerous because it takes time

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<v Speaker 3>to fall in love. Twenty years ago, thirty years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you would meet people at university, you would

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<v Speaker 3>hang out, friendships would develop, and then you would fall

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<v Speaker 3>in love. You know, that's a really great path for

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship to develop, not this instant way of assessing

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<v Speaker 3>people going out on a date, having a long checklist,

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<v Speaker 3>going oh, would you match me? You know. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>people are in such a rush to get from the

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<v Speaker 3>dating phase to the relationship phase, and they want without

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<v Speaker 3>getting to taking the time. Because people are so judgmental,

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<v Speaker 3>the apps force us to make these snap judgments based

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<v Speaker 3>on very little information. It's an addiction that the dating

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<v Speaker 3>apps are just like a poker machine. They get a dopamine.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time you get a swipe, you go back to

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<v Speaker 3>see if you can get another one, and at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day you end up feeling empty because

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<v Speaker 3>you're not getting what you came for. And it's not

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<v Speaker 3>your fault. You're using a broken system.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The first dating app will was Grinder, which was a

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<v Speaker 3>geolocation based app for men money promiscuous.

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<v Speaker 2>And he knows the sound too well too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes the Grinder, Okay, yes, So it's based on a

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<v Speaker 3>hookup culture. And if you're one of the very few

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<v Speaker 3>that actually happened to find a relationship on an app,

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<v Speaker 3>like the five to ten percent of couples that actually

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<v Speaker 3>do meet on an app, well then you're incredibly lucky

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like your mission statements are world apart. The

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<v Speaker 3>app wants to keep you there and keep you single

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<v Speaker 3>because they make money from you, but you want to

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<v Speaker 3>get off and actually find someone.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that so true? I mean it's almost like they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make themselves redundant, but not really.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like their whole concept is that we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find everyone love. But if they found everyone loved, then

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<v Speaker 1>the app wouldn't be what it is, So it's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Hinge's slogan is designed to be deleted, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're just telling you that it's not because once you

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<v Speaker 3>actually are in a relationship on Hinge, I've had friends

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<v Speaker 3>that have told me this, they still get sent emails

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<v Speaker 3>of hey, you've got five matches, you know, check them out.

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<v Speaker 3>Even when you've paused the app because you want to

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<v Speaker 3>pursue a relationship, They'll still law you and tempt you

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<v Speaker 3>back here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, would you like a side chick? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, hey, come over there, because they make money from you.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally I'm guilty of that. Well, I must admit. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not an a a data I never went through

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<v Speaker 1>the cycle of dating constantly or went through a phase

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<v Speaker 1>where I went on men dates. I was always a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship person. So I had a relationship for six years

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody I got out of that relationship. I was

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<v Speaker 1>single for two years, played the field a bit, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>went on the dating apps and had a look. But

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<v Speaker 1>I never dated much. And then now I've been another

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<v Speaker 1>relationship for long term. So I don't have much experience

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<v Speaker 1>in the dating world. But one question that I have,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the common factors for failed relationships

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen in your career?

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<v Speaker 3>Great question. So, firstly, people are not curious enough. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not turning up and really wanting to get to know

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<v Speaker 3>the person. And curiosity is the beginning of any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of connection. You know, you want to sit down and

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<v Speaker 3>get to know the person, find out what you have

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<v Speaker 3>in common, because the goal of a first date is

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<v Speaker 3>just to get to a second date. It's not to

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<v Speaker 3>have a complete assessment of where the person's going in life.

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<v Speaker 3>To have asked them all these questions so that you

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<v Speaker 3>can then you know, grade them and understand whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not you know they're going to be a potential for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Because it takes time, people unfold slowly, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>get to know them over time that you might have

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<v Speaker 3>had work colleagues here that you didn't like, you know

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<v Speaker 3>when you first started, and then over time you get

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<v Speaker 3>to know them and they become friends. Right, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>same way in love. We're in such a rush to

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<v Speaker 3>make a diagnosis. So I would say to people, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to get curious, and then you've got to be playful,

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<v Speaker 3>be fun, you know, have fun, laugh. You want to

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<v Speaker 3>make the person feel great in your company so that

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<v Speaker 3>they walk away going I had a great time. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to see them again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of your sayings, brook Like, it's be curious,

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<v Speaker 1>not judgmental. But are you doing that on dates? And

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do do that I watched Ted Lassaho and I love this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I I've always been a very curious person, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always so inquisitive. That's my like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think when I was younger, I just asked why

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<v Speaker 2>so many times, So I have no problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I do fall hard and I do fall easily.

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<v Speaker 1>And I shouldn't laugh because that's maybe being judgmental.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are being sudg mental because.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe judging a little bit. I'm going to take that,

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<v Speaker 1>take that laughter and shove it up my ass. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, there's so much love here, I think. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I learned off a TV show. There's just this one

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<v Speaker 2>scenario where he says, if you lead with curiosity, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't lead with judgment, and if you're not judging, you

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<v Speaker 2>open yourself up to so many different things. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you lead with judgment, you are like just creating that

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<v Speaker 2>like one pathway, and you are closing yourself off. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've always done that with like work, personal life. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad is the best example of curiosity because he just

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<v Speaker 2>asks so many questions and everyone that meets him, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just like the best little human, best big human. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>he's really tall but he just he's so curious about

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<v Speaker 2>the world, and I watch him and I analyze him

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<v Speaker 2>in such a way that I want to be like him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just wish that other people were curious about

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<v Speaker 2>my life. But the thing is, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest problem I have sometimes is that people can google

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<v Speaker 2>me and they can find out all of his stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love when I meet someone and they're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've not googled or touched anything that you've written or

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<v Speaker 2>said or been on because I don't want to know

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<v Speaker 2>that version. I want to know you for face value.

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<v Speaker 2>And those people are being the ones that I've genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>been in a relationship with because they got to know

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<v Speaker 2>me for me. So I love that. I think we

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<v Speaker 2>aren't curious enough. And I think that's like the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>advice someone could take on and I definitely take that on.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it sounds like you know you are following in

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<v Speaker 3>the footsteps of your dad. It sounds like he's a

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<v Speaker 3>great role model for you. And maybe you need the

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<v Speaker 3>services of a matchmaker to keep your profile discreete and

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<v Speaker 3>hidden so that you are meeting people but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>know who you are, they don't know the background of

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<v Speaker 3>where you come from. Yeah, you know, it should be

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<v Speaker 3>something that you get to know each other, as I say,

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<v Speaker 3>slowly and over time and in different situations, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>lots of talking, lots of connecting, lots of discussing. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's three vats that I talk about in my book which.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking notes by the way, like I am here

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<v Speaker 2>for this.

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<v Speaker 3>There's three v's which I think help people fast track

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<v Speaker 3>and understanding of what it is that they're looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>And the three v's are values, vision, and vibe. So

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<v Speaker 3>what you want to do is you want to look

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<v Speaker 3>at values. So what are your core beliefs? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>have similar core beliefs? Are your ethics aligned? If you're

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<v Speaker 3>really family orientated, and that's super important to you, are

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<v Speaker 3>they Do you have any religious or cultural beliefs that

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<v Speaker 3>you want to share with your partner. So you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to look at that first and see if that's lining up.

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<v Speaker 3>Then look at vision. What's your vision for the future?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you see your future unfolding? Are you at

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<v Speaker 3>a stage where you know you want to travel more

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<v Speaker 3>and live overseas? Do you want to start a family?

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<v Speaker 3>What are your plans? What are your life goals? How

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<v Speaker 3>do you see your life actually panning out and could

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<v Speaker 3>it be together? And then the last one is vibe.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a similar energy level, social compatibility, do

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<v Speaker 3>you have similar sense of humor or emotional intelligence or

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<v Speaker 3>conflict resolution? Once you start to look at those three areas,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get a better understanding of whether this is

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<v Speaker 3>a person that's going to fit into your life long term,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can summarize it by asking yourself three key questions,

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<v Speaker 3>which is, do we want the same things? Do we

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<v Speaker 3>have potential for a future together? And do we have synergy?

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<v Speaker 1>I love that And these.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go in sequence, like these could just be like

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<v Speaker 2>you can get the vibe first and then absolutely values

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<v Speaker 2>and then the vision like you know, like these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of come.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're not in any prescribed order, but as long

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<v Speaker 3>as you have elements of each of those, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a really important recipe.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing that I've noticed with my partner eighteen months now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting to know my partner at a really deep

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<v Speaker 1>level where I'm understanding his needs or for instance, an example,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that my partner isn't social. I'm very social

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what I do for my work and

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<v Speaker 1>what I do in my personal life. I got many friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always out, you know, doing things. There's a part

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<v Speaker 1>of me that wants him to be involved in that

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<v Speaker 1>social start of my life. But understanding him more, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to really come to terms with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that that's not what he wants or he needs, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sacrifice that part of my life in

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<v Speaker 1>my relationship because I know that he's not that type

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<v Speaker 1>of person that's going to be at everything with me,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's going to stay home and chill. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and do my things. And accepting that

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<v Speaker 1>about my partner has created this level of peace and

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<v Speaker 1>calm in our relationship because I'm getting to know him

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<v Speaker 1>on the deep level. It's taken time. In the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>I always felt like, why doesn't he want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my friendship circles? Why doesn't he want

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<v Speaker 1>to be super involved?

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<v Speaker 3>You were angry, you were disappointed, you were like, this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't meeting my need totally. But now you've gone, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I accept that he's got so many wonderful things about

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<v Speaker 3>him totally, and I'm just going to give him a

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<v Speaker 3>pass on this one and say I understand that that's

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<v Speaker 3>not you, but it's something that's important to me, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to give it up and resent you

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<v Speaker 3>for it, that's right. I'm just going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>a whole pass and go. You know, I get it,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, this is something that there is a

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<v Speaker 3>core belief and I want to do these.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So there are things where you can be super different,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's understanding your partner and coming to

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<v Speaker 1>terms with the fact that is this something you can

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice in your relationship or is it going to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you grief? You know, I constantly bring you grief. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that I've accepted it, I go out and do my things.

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<v Speaker 1>He stays home in the apartment. He's really chill. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he's taking up other opportunities and not hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with me, you know what I mean. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he's sort of ditching me for a better opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he's just that's just him and that's his personality.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've come to find that the more you get

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<v Speaker 1>to know your partner, it takes time. The deeper you go,

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<v Speaker 1>the more that you can accept about them and not

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<v Speaker 1>judge them or try and make them like you has

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<v Speaker 1>been so helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>For me, absolutely, because you remove the expectation and the disappointment,

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<v Speaker 3>You strip that away and you go, okay, well this

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<v Speaker 3>is this is just different for them, and it does

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<v Speaker 3>take time. And that's what relationships are. It's compromise. It's

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<v Speaker 3>understanding and valuing and going okay, well there's these wonderful

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<v Speaker 3>things and this you know, I'm going to compromise on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. And another thing that I've noticed in like

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<v Speaker 1>as I've gotten to know Danny his name is Denny,

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know, not everything needs to be a battle.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I find that sometimes even if you have differing

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<v Speaker 1>opinions or you want different things from a certain scenario,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't need to be a battle. I can have

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<v Speaker 1>this and he can have that and it still work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>been like an eye opener for me that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the more that you try not to sort of fight

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<v Speaker 1>the battle of your individual wants and needs, like I

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<v Speaker 1>find that it's been so helpful.

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<v Speaker 3>You've just defined parenting.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there you go, so am I The dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Parenting is when you pick your battles. Every day could

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<v Speaker 3>be a war on everything that your child does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but you go, Okay, I'm not going to yell at

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<v Speaker 3>you for spilling that milk when I have to discipline

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<v Speaker 3>you about you know, totally leaving your even a mess

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever whatever it is. You have to pick your battles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds like Maddie that you're Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>great like parenting advice, and you're kind of moving into

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<v Speaker 2>that if you're learning that in your relationship, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>just going to take that into your you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you become a dad like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's I'm great. I'm super excited. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>the best job in the world would be to be

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<v Speaker 1>your dad, and so I know, I feel like that

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<v Speaker 1>was my dream. But let's swing it back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Week of Love and Valentine's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, No, I wanted to touch on because you treaty

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<v Speaker 2>touched on all of those things, and I was thinking

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<v Speaker 2>of like love languages like.

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<v Speaker 1>Acts of service, physical blah blah blah, words of affirmation, gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think these matter in a relationship? And like

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<v Speaker 2>you know that that compromise is like, oh, well, you're

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<v Speaker 2>an access service person. But I'm like, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>that that conversation comes up a lot in dating from

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<v Speaker 2>what I've noticed.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it matters if you want to speak effectively to

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<v Speaker 3>your partner. Now what I mean by that is that

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<v Speaker 3>if you are speaking to them with a language that

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<v Speaker 3>they don't want you to talk to them in, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to have as much effect as if it

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<v Speaker 3>would where you chose what their love language is. So

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<v Speaker 3>if my love language, for example, is quality time and

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<v Speaker 3>physical touch, okay, I need a date night with my partner,

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<v Speaker 3>we go out, have a romantic evening, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>spend time together. If he didn't understand that about me,

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<v Speaker 3>and he does, so that's tick for him, and he

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<v Speaker 3>gave me a gift, that would be nice, but it

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have the same impact as if he spoke to

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<v Speaker 3>me in my love language. So you need to know

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<v Speaker 3>what THEIRS is to have the most impact in making

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<v Speaker 3>them feel special, because otherwise you're just talking to them

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<v Speaker 3>in a different language that it's just not going to

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's me, it's powerful love language, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So find out what THEIRS is and don't assume that

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<v Speaker 3>theirs is yours totally because that's not the case either.

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<v Speaker 2>Because receiving and giving is that is that right? There's

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<v Speaker 2>receiving a type of love language, and then you might

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<v Speaker 2>be different and how you give love. That's right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an acts of service lover, But how I receive love?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I need consistency and time. So quality time

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<v Speaker 2>is like my peak because I'm not alviously like physical

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<v Speaker 2>affection for me, I didn't get it. I'm like, but

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<v Speaker 2>people need that, and I've had to adjust mind to

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<v Speaker 2>give that because I don't know what it's like to constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's a love language, so you have to

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<v Speaker 2>get on the same same page of.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you figure them out?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's the thing. For me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably as easy as going, well, what does make you?

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<v Speaker 1>What makes you feel loved? But it's hard because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I can feel a sense of love in

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<v Speaker 1>all different ways and all different parts of those languages,

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<v Speaker 1>like for instance, physical touch, gift giving, acts of service,

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<v Speaker 1>quality time for me, they would all feel like love.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, how do you narrow it down to

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<v Speaker 1>be like, this is how I truly receive love?

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<v Speaker 3>People would generally have two that they feel the most connected.

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<v Speaker 1>To, and who came up with this? Because two doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem like enough for me? I'm like, I want them all.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a book on it, isn't there's a whore's The

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<v Speaker 2>author will probably put it in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 3>Maam, yeah, yeah, so that you'll normally have two and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just trial and error, you know. Like I was

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<v Speaker 3>actually at a dinner party with friends not long ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and we had this discussion about love languages, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was really funny because these are two of my closest friends,

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<v Speaker 3>married couple, and she was saying that her love language

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<v Speaker 3>is gift giving, and her husband turned around to her

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<v Speaker 3>and said, what, I didn't know that. She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you bring me home a bunch of roses, that

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<v Speaker 3>makes me really happy. And he's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>I never do that because I just think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're just going to die, and what's the point. I'd rather,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, take you out to dinner. And they had

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<v Speaker 3>been married for twenty years and he didn't know that

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<v Speaker 3>her love language was gift giving.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow can it change? Is the question? So like over

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<v Speaker 2>that time, like you know, you might think one thing

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're like, oh, actually I actually really enjoy this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I actually really enjoy gifts. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was an access service person but now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I like gifts?

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<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't like gifts? Honestly? Come on? Like, I came

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<v Speaker 1>home the other day and I had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>uh And it's fun because he must have known what

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite flowers were. And I'm not someone who's like

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<v Speaker 1>big on flowers, but the act that he did it

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel love. I'm not like, the flowers aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, but the thought that he went. I came

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<v Speaker 1>home from Melbourne. It was a late flight. I got

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<v Speaker 1>home and a bunch of flowers on the table. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've had a big day. Here's the flower.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just felt like, it's not the flowers. It

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<v Speaker 1>was the fact that he went out of his way

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<v Speaker 1>I got them at the thought. Yeah, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite flowers, you know, lilies. But yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt like, yeah, so maybe I don't know. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>exploring all of them, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Just you know it's easy to do. You can

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<v Speaker 3>sit down and go, okay, well what do we want

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<v Speaker 3>to do tonight? Do we want to have a romantic

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<v Speaker 3>evening when we go out and we connect. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>want me to give you a massage? You know, and

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<v Speaker 3>think of different ways that you can, you know, enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>being together. But I think that it's really important to

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<v Speaker 3>know what's going to recharge you, what's going to fill

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<v Speaker 3>you up. You know, if you had a busy week

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<v Speaker 3>and you haven't seen your partner much, what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>help you reconnect with them? Yeah, what's going to help

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<v Speaker 3>you go? Okay? I feel like where one again?

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<v Speaker 1>I think deep conversations helped me do that. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>last night we made it. We put on our key

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<v Speaker 1>table together, put it on the on the balcony. No.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, now that's going to test any relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>It great though, because he helped me in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>and then when he cooked dinner, and then I kept

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<v Speaker 1>on doing it while he was cooking dinner. The dinner

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<v Speaker 1>was done, we sat out on the balcony, we sat

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<v Speaker 1>at the table that we built, had this deep conversation

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<v Speaker 1>about future. And deep conversations allowed me to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know him more. Even at this point of eighteen months,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, oh, I'm still learning.

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<v Speaker 3>Things, yes, and you're still curious.

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<v Speaker 1>And that deep conversation always brings us closer. It actually

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<v Speaker 1>ignites the sexual tension yes between us, So it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we feel really close to each other after those moments.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it's quite interesting because men connect through sex

0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:53.080
<v Speaker 3>normally and women connect through conversation. So when a couple

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<v Speaker 3>is normally, you know, wanting to reconnect, and the man

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<v Speaker 3>will want sex in order to do that, the woman

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<v Speaker 3>will go, We'll on a second. We haven't spent much

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<v Speaker 3>time together or conversed. I'm not ready to have sex

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<v Speaker 3>with you yet, yeah, because I need that conversation to

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<v Speaker 3>get me connected to you to then want to have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting that there's that difference, but you're finding that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you connect through conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one question before we we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>back around to Valentine's Day stuff because it is Valentine's Week,

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<v Speaker 1>But I've got one question. There's sometimes the inner thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they come from your experiences or your

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what it is for me, but

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I have inner saboteur, you know, this inner voice

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<v Speaker 1>that thinks that I should sabotage the relationship. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where it comes from, why it comes, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I have to sort of take myself away

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<v Speaker 1>from it and go, no, everything's cool. Why am I

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<v Speaker 1>trying to create chaos? Why am I trying to create

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<v Speaker 1>a problem? You know. It could be the fact that, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't messaged me until three pm in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's busy working all day, and it's like, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a mountain out of a molehill. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there's this inner voice that sometimes steps in to my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship that goes, he's not giving you enough, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, he's not doing that. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>tactics or strategies where you can just eliminate that voice.

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not eliminated. It's probably always going to be there,

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<v Speaker 1>but to work with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't just shut it down, ignore it. Just say talk

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<v Speaker 3>to yourself and say, listen, I know he loves me,

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 3>he's busy, he'll call me later. Yeah, just give yourself

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 3>that self talk because it's fear. It's fear of being vulnerable,

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 3>it's fear of not knowing the messy reality of human connection,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. So you've just got to go, well, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and not doing the tit for tat right. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's oh, he hasn't messaged to me, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to message him. If you feel a message just message,

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<v Speaker 1>because sometimes it's ego for me, you know, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a silly scenario. But I think I'm learning more

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<v Speaker 1>about myself trying to navigate this relationship with meticular and

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<v Speaker 1>also not everything's going to be fifty to fifty, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's something that I've come to terms with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I can't expect fifty to fifty, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>there's different playing field, all the goalposts for both of

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<v Speaker 1>us are a little bit different, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I just I'm learning a lot about myself

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<v Speaker 1>as well in.

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<v Speaker 3>A relation fantastic because that's what happens. You learn just

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<v Speaker 3>as much about them as you do about you because

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<v Speaker 3>you're in these new situations. It's evolving, you're learning, you're testing,

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<v Speaker 3>you're growing, you're discovering, and that's exactly what's meant to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So it sounds like a really healthy relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yah. And one thing that I've currently been working on

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<v Speaker 1>is not trying to see you know that this is forever, forever, forever,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like that whole thing of putting so much

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on the relationship that it's going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>one and only person you love forever, and that you

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<v Speaker 1>see it's already the path. You know, you see the

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<v Speaker 1>path already, and you put pressure that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>make it to the end. Like for me, stepping out

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<v Speaker 1>of that and going living the present, lived day by day,

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<v Speaker 1>be with my partner who knows what the future holds,

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<v Speaker 1>has been really helpful for me. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that contradicts the idea of marriage in a sense, but

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's been really helpful. So not putting pressure

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<v Speaker 1>on the relationship to be to be all and end

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<v Speaker 1>all of like why you're in it. The reason I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in it is because I love you and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be with you, But it's not because I am

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<v Speaker 1>putting this pressure on it to get to a certain point.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's been super helpful for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that once you realize it's a daily choice

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<v Speaker 3>that both of you make to want to be together,

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<v Speaker 3>is something that makes you appreciate each other and go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well I've made a choice today. I want to be

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<v Speaker 3>with you. And you don't need marriage, you don't need

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<v Speaker 3>a commitment, you know, in order to do that, you

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<v Speaker 3>just make that daily choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have received this advice like maybe a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. I don't know where I heard it from,

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<v Speaker 2>but it might have been even my dad. Again, sorry

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<v Speaker 2>not to mention him, but it's such a beautiful man.

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<v Speaker 2>But he said, to learn how to love in a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship is also to learn how to fight with your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, actually, you can fight, per se, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing how to do that in a healthy way, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's inevitable.

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<v Speaker 1>We're always going to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, and it doesn't always have to be like

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<v Speaker 2>a negative fight, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it will always be conflict, and what you have

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<v Speaker 3>to learn is how to resolve that conflict effectively pretty much. Yeah,

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 3>So everyone will have different strategies, you know, different needs,

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<v Speaker 3>but you need to work out what is best for

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<v Speaker 3>you and your partner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so my question is what's the best way to

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<v Speaker 2>resolve an argument with your partner, like obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Firmly, But it depends on your partner, right, Because, for instance,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>in my relationship, I know that Denny doesn't like to

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<v Speaker 1>resolve immediately. I'm the gapper. I'm like, no, we need

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<v Speaker 1>to sort this out right now. I'm a bet unless

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<v Speaker 1>we have a resolution and I've come to terms with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that. You know, what, if we have an

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<v Speaker 1>argument or we we have a moment of conflict, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to give him time and circle back around in

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<v Speaker 1>two days, you know, because if I try, it's overwhelming him.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, And that's exactly that's exactly my point.

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 3>You have to find out what works for each person.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when I fight with my partner, we resolve

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<v Speaker 3>conflict the most effectively, ironically through text messaging.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so everyone sort of Yeah, but that's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is I learned to love, is to learn how to

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<v Speaker 2>resolve a fight like.

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<v Speaker 3>But definitely calmly and like, you know, talking about it

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 3>through stages like you know, I felt this way if

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.640
<v Speaker 3>you explain how it makes you feel, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where where you should be starting from.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's Valentine's Day this week, and couples that

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<v Speaker 2>listen to us, singles that listen to us, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of queers that listen to us. What is the best

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<v Speaker 2>advice that you'd give who to people who really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of dread this week? You know, give them some hope,

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 2>give them some love, give them like some some tips. Obviously,

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 2>we've been unpacked so much already. I feel like I've

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 2>learned so much already. But what was What would be

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<v Speaker 2>your advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Treaty for people who want to find love?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, Look, I would say.

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<v Speaker 3>That there's nothing wrong with telling people that you want

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<v Speaker 3>to find love and getting your crew, getting your in

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<v Speaker 3>a circle to help you, and you introduce you to people.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people do get busy and lazy and they go, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm busy with work and you know, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's nice if you remind them and say, listen, I

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 3>do want to meet someone. So think of me when

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 3>you're organizing a dinner party or having a social event.

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I would love to come and I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>meet someone. The other thing you can do is how

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<v Speaker 3>to meet people without dating apps, because I don't believe

0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 3>dating apps are a valuable method at all to find

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 3>a partner. There are lots of things you can do

0:29:40.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>to meet people in other ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Run clubs, the top dating app, other new dating app.

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It's sort of like everyone goes to outdoors run club.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a healthy thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's perfect because you're meeting people with similar values.

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<v Speaker 3>They value health and fitness. You can then go and

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<v Speaker 3>do other things after the run. You can extend, you

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 3>can call them and say, hey, let's go for a bushwalk.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you know that they're into health and fitness.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great segue to share more interests together.

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<v Speaker 2>So common hobbies interests like if you like pottery, go

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 2>to pottery things.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, invest more time in doing the things that you like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>When you are going on a date, what is some

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<v Speaker 1>advice on how to prepare for that moment? And what

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 1>questions are crucial in a date that allows you to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of be.

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<v Speaker 3>Curious great questions. So how do you prepare for the date?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, don't be in a rush. Don't rush

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<v Speaker 3>home from the office or work and then you know

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 3>you've got twenty minutes to get ready and run out

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<v Speaker 3>the door. You really want to kind of just get comfortable,

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<v Speaker 3>be prepared for the date mentally, emotionally, be excited by it.

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 3>If you're a woman, maybe you want to have a

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<v Speaker 3>bath or put on some sexy music and get a

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>nice outfit. And it's really I always tell people have

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<v Speaker 3>like two or three first date outfits all ready to

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<v Speaker 3>so that you don't need to worry about what you're

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 3>going to wear. That box is already ticked. It could

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 3>be a pair of jeans, nice heels, and a classic

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 3>top for a guy could just be really nice shirt

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 3>and nice pants and you know, cool shoes read ready

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<v Speaker 3>to pull out. It's a no brainer. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you're there. I'm really against people having like a checklist

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 3>of things that they want to ask. You know, how

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<v Speaker 3>many kids do you want to have? When do you

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 3>want to have kids? You know, where do you want

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 3>to live? Do you have a nice car? Like, all

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 3>of these questions are irrelevant. You just need to get

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<v Speaker 3>to know one another and find out what you have

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>in common. Do you have common values? Do you want

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the same things in your future? Is there a synergy?

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 3>Is there a playfulness? Is there banter? Do you like

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 3>their company? Do you feel good? You know, it's about

0:31:45.360 --> 0:31:49.479
<v Speaker 3>getting to that next stage, date number two. So date

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 3>number one doesn't have to be all that long. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be an hour, it could be two hours.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of my members they do say to me, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we went to the restaurant. We were the

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<v Speaker 3>last ones to leave, which is amazing because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they had all these things to talk about, all these

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<v Speaker 3>things in common, and that's what we do. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The background work is that we will match people with

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<v Speaker 3>all of this alignment already, so we know that they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk for hours because they have these common

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<v Speaker 3>interests and values and life stage and energy levels and

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<v Speaker 3>all of that's kind of predetermined. But when you're meeting

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<v Speaker 3>people on your own, in your own capacity, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just about getting to know one another and being playful

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<v Speaker 3>and fun and laughing because you know it's not It

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be too serious. It should just be a catch

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<v Speaker 3>up and find out what you like to do together

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<v Speaker 3>and see if you want to hang out again.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that too.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one more question because I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>some goss. Okay, do you have any high profile clients

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<v Speaker 1>and are there any celebs that you work with that

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<v Speaker 1>like you match under the radar.

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<v Speaker 3>So the answer is yes, I have worked and do

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<v Speaker 3>work with high profile individuals. I've worked with two billionaires,

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<v Speaker 3>an Olympic athlete, media personalities, famous authors, entrepreneurs, the list

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<v Speaker 3>goes on politicians. I've worked with a cross section of

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<v Speaker 3>people who are very very well known in the Australian public.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty one's Batforette Brooklyn.

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<v Speaker 1>You will be on that list. I'm sure I will.

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<v Speaker 2>Be If this doesn't work out, it's fine. I'm coming

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<v Speaker 2>to Trudy's house and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the reason I'm And my celebrity clients they either

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<v Speaker 4>want one of two directions.

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<v Speaker 3>One they want the person to know exactly who they

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<v Speaker 3>are before they agree to go on the date, so

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<v Speaker 3>that there's no confusion and that the client is understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, that person's history, that what they come with,

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<v Speaker 3>what the relationship might involve, but you know, being in

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<v Speaker 3>the spotlight and so forth. And then there are others

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<v Speaker 3>who actually don't want them to be told, so that

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<v Speaker 3>they have the opportunity to meet and establish a connection

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>before they know of their history. So it's interesting you

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<v Speaker 3>get two sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and have any high pro I'm sure they have.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been many successful.

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<v Speaker 3>Matches, many I've been doing this for twenty years. I

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 3>like to think I'm quite good at what I do,

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 3>but I can amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking, I'm like, oh my god, Like,

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 2>sorry not to cut you off, but I'm like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a beautiful relationship. I'm assuming you said you were

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<v Speaker 2>married and you're in a relationship. Can I just ask

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 2>why you went into this work? Like, was it just

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<v Speaker 2>because you wanted to see other people happy, or you

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:26.839
<v Speaker 2>just love love like me, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, it's a really funny story that I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>grow up thinking I want to be a matchmaker. It

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't something that I dreamed of, like you. My dad is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really close with him, and he was a business owner.

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<v Speaker 3>So growing up I saw him go out and he

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<v Speaker 3>loved what he did. He was a sales agent for clothing,

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<v Speaker 3>so he would go and meet all of his buyers

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 3>and show them the range. And one day I went

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<v Speaker 3>with him and he just had fun. He had fun

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 3>all day talking to his clients, who were like friends.

0:34:57.080 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 3>They would have a laugh, they'd have a chat, he'd

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<v Speaker 3>do some business, he'd go into the next one. And

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<v Speaker 3>we had a really good lifestyle growing up. You know,

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 3>we were able to travel overseas and we lived in

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 3>a nice area. So I formed this understanding that being

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.320
<v Speaker 3>a business owner was fun, profitable, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 3>could give you a great life. So in the back

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<v Speaker 3>of my mind, I think I was always programmed to

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 3>want to be a business owner. And I lived overseas

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<v Speaker 3>for four years. I lived in Italy and I had

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<v Speaker 3>a business there teaching English to companies, and I came

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>back home. I was twenty nine. I was ready to,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, to settle and have a new business here.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was reading a magazine in a cafe and

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<v Speaker 3>I read about this high end matchmaker in New York

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<v Speaker 3>who does exclusive matchmaking, and it really got me interested,

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 3>and I thought it was fascinating. She charged an absolute premium,

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<v Speaker 3>like fifty thousand US to find you your life partner.

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<v Speaker 1>She was based in you an insurance policy it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>last more than three years to get your money back,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite in your face, and it was a really interesting read.

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<v Speaker 3>But it got me thinking, well, look, you know, I

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 3>grew up in the East, I went to university. I

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 3>enjoy certain things like travel and culture and learning and growing,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted a place. I wanted to create an

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<v Speaker 3>agency where people could come and know that they would

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 3>meet other like minded people. Because there were dating agencies around,

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 3>but it was too vast, it was too broad. There

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 3>was too much possibility of non connection because there weren't

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 3>enough things in alignment. So I did research and found

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 3>that in the US and the UK, executive dating was

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<v Speaker 3>really popular and I started that here. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>the first to kind of have this brand of matchmaking

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 3>professionals and entrepreneurs and business owners, and it was successful

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's it must be exciting as well

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<v Speaker 1>when you see it.

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<v Speaker 3>There is no greater high than getting a phone call

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 3>or we're engaged, we're married, We're going away and meeting

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 3>his family. I'm taking her to Europe for summer. Like

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<v Speaker 3>the relayationship is progressing, and that you know that you've

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<v Speaker 3>made a huge impact in someone's lives and finding them

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 3>love and having children, like there are hundreds of children

0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 3>out there now because we've created a union of two

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<v Speaker 3>people coming together.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. Well, speaking of two people coming together, I

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like that's what Valentine's Day's about. I hope all

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>our lovers that are listening to the pod have an

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>exceptional Valentine's Day. And you know what, if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>single and looking for love, where can they find you?

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<v Speaker 3>They can find me at Trudy Gilbert dot com. I

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<v Speaker 3>have the book is available on that website, Trudy Gilbert

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<v Speaker 3>dot com Forward Slash Book, And there's also the course

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 3>on how to date with out dating apps if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to delete them forever, which I encourage you to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Cannot wait to send your book to my best friend Asia.

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<v Speaker 2>If you just listening to this episode, this book is

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<v Speaker 2>for you, girl.

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to buy the book and send it

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<v Speaker 1>to Brook.

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<v Speaker 3>Look as you read it, think of me as your

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 3>big sister wanting to step in and help you because

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 3>you know there are things that you might have got wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do your job, girl, can you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to learn all this stuff and I want

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 2>to do it for all my friends and my all

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.760
<v Speaker 2>my listeners. I love this. This is such a beautiful episode.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you so much for.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming my pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to trust you so awesome. Yeah. Great, thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see you next episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye,