1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome too, an L three sixty re League from every angle, 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,439 Speaker 1: brought to you by the new range up plug in Hybrid. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Joining me the Great Gordon tell Us. That's been the 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: journeys in buzz Ros and Brent Reed. We've got a 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: massive show on tonight. We've got the Lawndies on in 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: our heavy Hitters segment, which leads me to the Bulldogs. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: They are having our party at Bilm while they are 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: absolutely flying win in their first three games of the season, 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: the only team to do so or to start they're 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: going great guns to do it yesterday without and without 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: kick kao too. Really really two million dollars of your 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: cap tough when but they've got it and no other 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: side won three straight. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: It was outstand may. 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: It's been astonishing rebuilding such a short time hasn't a 16 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: couple of years they've turned this joint into a contender, 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: and I mean they're top four chances this year and 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: if you finished the top four and you fit at 19 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: the right time of year, anything can. 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 4: Happen three from three first time since what two thousand 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 4: and or twenty twelve. I don't think the Rebuilders anywhere 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: finished yet, but the way they've won their three games 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 4: I've won them more differently, I mean they haven't. They're 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: hard working, but they've just found ways to win and 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: those are really committed Paramatta side. Yesterday they were up 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: for the occasion. They made some mistakes earlier, but that 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 4: was a really tough, gritty win for the dogs and 28 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: I think we spoke to Sext and he said that's 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 4: the toughest forty minutes of football that he's played. 30 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 5: So they did it tough as well well. 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: As you guys mentioned Burton and kick out out, but 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: it was their defense that held strong and won them 33 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: in the game yesterday. And they just seem to improve 34 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: every year every week under the guidance of Cameron Surrounder 35 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: and obviously Gus has done a great job of that. 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: We're going to get to that and we'll speak to 37 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: the wrnies about it later on. But their sponsorship and 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: memberships have gone through the roof. They already had big numbers, 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 1: but they're getting even bigger. 40 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 6: Well already spoke about where they've come from twenty twenty one. 41 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 6: You know, they won three games of forty that year, 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 6: three games of football since then. Their merchant they's just 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 6: gone cooker at Belmont. Their merchandise. Their merchandise is up 44 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 6: five hundred percent. Their crowds are up from thirteen thousand, 45 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 6: nine hundred to nearly twenty five thousand a game. Commercial 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 6: has doubled membership sixteen thousand to twenty five thousand. And 47 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 6: you know, last year just on their socials to you 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 6: know where the young supporters are coming from, the tiktoks, 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 6: the instagrams, they did one hundred and fifty million views 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 6: last year just on socials. You're I'm not I have 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 6: enough drama on Twitter or x to worry than you have. 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Buzz ninety eight thousand. 53 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 7: That's a robot. 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: What you got, I don't know. 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Store there were a big club though both we knew 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: that wo big club. It was only it's a bit 57 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: like the West Tigers. You've got to wake the sleeping giant. 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 7: We've seen. 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: We've seeing it happen here at the Bulldogs. When you win, 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: people come out of the woodwork, would work and want 61 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: to be part of it again. Great colors too, It's amazing. 62 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: Can you see the streets of Bellmore when they win. 63 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: It's just crazy. It's so good for rugby league to 64 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: see them thriving. 65 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: They've always had a big fan base, and they've always 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: had some of the most passionate game for a number 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: of time. 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 8: Now it's good to see them the. 69 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: Next dog do you like? What's the weather at now? 70 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: That's the best I mean because there was a doggie. 71 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: If you played sixteen years the first grade for two 72 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: different teams, you could support two teams too, but you didn't. 73 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: What are you going to do when they played each other. 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 8: I'm a happy man. Win win. It's win wing now. 75 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: In all seriousness, though, it's great to see him do 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: world because you know, it wasn't long ago. We were 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: sitting on this panel for a long period of time 78 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: and what's happening there? 79 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 8: Buzz's phones ring and is that Gus? 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a long period of time there where you know, 81 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: they had lost their DNA, their culture had gone, that 82 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: old bulldog's tough mentality, seas mentality had gone, and they 83 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: were just in a world of hurting. 84 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 8: We were quite. 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Critical of them, and but they're back and it's it's 86 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: it is fantastic the scene. Now, who who takes the credit? 87 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: He's not that you know, we're going to just put 88 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: it on one person. It's a team effort. 89 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 8: Gus and the lawn. 90 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Hees have obviously played a big partner. Who takes the credit. 91 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: For this, I think Cameron Sireldo just for being patient. 92 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 4: I think everybody that's been involved to get him to 93 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 4: the situation. I think Siro walked into a pretty good joint. 94 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 4: But the players have worked really hard and board in 95 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: as well. So you can deliver a message, but unless 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 4: the players grab it and go mate, I think it's collective. 97 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: I don't think you can put it all on one. 98 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: I think Guss is a genius, like I really do. 99 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 4: Like so he's got the midors touch. If you look 100 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: what he's done at Penrith and now the Dogs, you 101 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: know there's probably no one greater than him are doing it. 102 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: But I think it's the board level as well, because 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: I remember they had problems on board level, and every club 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: that has had problems at board level and normally infiltrates 105 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: through through the team. 106 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 8: You're a big Guss find well. 107 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 6: Well, I can't dag him at all. You know he 108 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 6: has done a terrific job there. You've got to give 109 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 6: him credit for that. Who hired Cameron sirelder God, I 110 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 6: will give Cameron Surrounder a lot of credit for is 111 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 6: his relationship with all those players coming through the grades 112 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 6: at Penrith, the Billy kick Ours And I know he 113 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 6: signed before that, but Matt Burton and Stephen Prton was 114 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 6: so close to Cameron and I think they signed for 115 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 6: him as much as they did Gus. 116 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: And I'm not taking anything away from Gus. 117 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 7: You're right about the board day breath and we spend 118 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 7: a bit of time that in Dresy and in Vegas. 119 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 8: He's kind of unsung there. 120 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 7: He's a smart. 121 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 8: Doing a great job for the club. 122 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: And he's helping them a track players players, and he's 123 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: happy to work with Gus to make things like that happen. 124 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: Then you're throwing the lawn laundies and the financial muscle 125 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: that they giving the club committee. I think they've committed 126 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: their sponsorships ten years. It's got the capacity to be 127 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: a ten year agreement. I mean that shows much faith. 128 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: They got him more gas and. 129 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 7: Adam and Aaron warburd are doing at that place. 130 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 6: I was going to give Aaron Warburton a wrap the CEO. 131 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 6: I think he's really impressive. All those figures I spat 132 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 6: out a couple of minutes ago. Here's the triefic Tech officer. 133 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 6: He's driving that commercial growth. Obviously he's started on the 134 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 6: back of a winning football team, which. 135 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: Winners, winners, grown team effort. 136 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 8: They're doing a great job. 137 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: The dog he's and once again we're going to have 138 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the Lawndry's on a heavy hitters segment. 139 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 8: He's not too long of time. Now. It might be 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 8: the strangest penalty ever given. 141 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Josh Curran impersonating the referee is how it happened. 142 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 8: Go to you call him that off side and call 143 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 8: him out. 144 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 9: That's against the tops, against the true spirit of the game. 145 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: Calling a bike off side. 146 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: It's cause a bit of a stirnest one or was 147 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: it gainsmanship or against the spirit of the game. 148 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 8: Didn't deserve a penalty. 149 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: It happened a lot. 150 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: Through my career, but that was old when there wasn't 151 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 4: when when the referees were miked up, stay out of it, 152 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: or you're off side or all that kind of stuff. 153 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: So I think it's in the game. I think it's 154 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: the sportsmanship of the game. The thing that's being able 155 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 4: to look here good he is. 156 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: He was offside. He was standing off. If you're standing 157 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: the defensive line, you call that out. That's fine, right 158 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: you're wanning, You're sorry, you're in the attacking line, you 159 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: call it out. 160 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 8: It's fine. 161 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 7: He was standing in the defensive line, so he was. 162 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 7: He was offside. That's that's what made it. 163 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 6: You sound like is now, look, yeah, I know that 164 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 6: the referee would be but you've spoken to Gray Mannesley 165 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 6: and you're giving. 166 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: Which I don't agree with. 167 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 6: Gray Mansley is giving the NRL version that he was loitering. 168 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 6: It was the word he used in the ruck and 169 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 6: he was penalized for upside. Look again, he was penalized, 170 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 6: not for being offside. He was penalized for imitating the 171 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 6: referee if the referee said that reading. Yes, But so 172 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 6: now they're trying to get escape any criticism. 173 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: I say it was off side. 174 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 7: Do you think that shouldn't have been a penalty? 175 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Penalty? But it wasn't not in the spirit of the 176 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: game penalty. Is what I'm trying to say. 177 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 3: Is so it's so Blake stands all side stands where 178 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: the referee would be. 179 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: The refere like that in every game. If the referee 180 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 4: stand and a bit over and he doesn't quite. 181 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 8: There, there's the rule. 182 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: Believe behave sorry in any way contrary to the spirit 183 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: of the game, how you. 184 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 5: Isn't that sportsmanship? 185 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 7: No, No, it's cheating. It's actually cheating. 186 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 6: Yes, Brent Paul ran me last night one of the 187 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 6: game's most colorful game. They played with Terry Lamb. He 188 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 6: played with all the mad whiz for him. He said, 189 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 6: you sat in every week. We get penalized every week 190 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 6: for calling Blake's off side, for calling. 191 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: For the football. 192 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 6: But all they had to say was your panelized for 193 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 6: loitering and being off side. 194 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: No one would have cared. 195 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 6: But because they've bought the spirit of the game thing, 196 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 6: and they've left themselves in my. 197 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 8: Opinion, defense is the NL. It does happen to Gordion. 198 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: I've seen it with little smart asses and like you know, 199 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: it's it's all fun and games and players calling for 200 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: the ball and pulling players out off side, and it's 201 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: happened forever. But what I will say is that Current 202 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: is in the position and the pocket where the referee is, 203 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: so he's standing right next to the referee, and he 204 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: does call him off side. And really, I suppose you 205 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: talk about gamesmanship. Normally players do it when the referee 206 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: isn't around. They try and they get away with it 207 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: because that's that's sort of the challenge is to try 208 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: and pull it off without anyone knowing he's standing next 209 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: to the referee, the referees. 210 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 6: I've never been on a football field like you, fellas, 211 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 6: but from people I talk to, you know, do you think. 212 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 8: Well, obviously I would like to. 213 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 6: Players have told me over a long period of time 214 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 6: is there'd be a dozen things every game that are 215 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 6: not people trying to get an edge, not like that. 216 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: You can't keep not saying you're off side. 217 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: You cannot penalize if in the rock when he actually 218 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: hasn't interfered in the play physically he's out of the. 219 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: Play, he said he was. 220 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: So if you would have penalized every player who stood 221 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 3: where he was just for standing that you would have 222 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: fifty penalties. 223 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: Are you're wrong because I was loading in. 224 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 7: The ruck and interfering in the play, but in personally. 225 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: In the reference double right now, Well, that's. 226 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 7: What makes it. 227 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: The old told me it was loitering in the ruck. 228 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 6: They reminded every player as part of all. 229 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: A week because ten times ago again for the next 230 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: I was saying, if it's just for lawder in the rock, 231 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 3: he was, we'll see fifty penalises one country country if 232 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 3: they charged him, wouldn't have cared to hear the story. 233 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 8: I think the whole thing is in over reaction. 234 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: I just think I tried to say, but I mean, like, 235 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: I don't. 236 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the penalty because of 237 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: where he was. He was standing in the referees position. 238 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 8: He called him off. So you know it's this, it's 239 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 8: the seedfre. 240 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 5: He made the right decision. It's not about made He 241 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: made the right decision. I wouldn't have given it a 242 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: penalty though. I wouldn't have if. 243 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: I was referee, because I would have went because it happened. 244 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: I watched Maddi john Show last night. There's a bloke 245 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: there and he goes mouse trap and the bloke runs away. 246 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 8: They pick up the ball and go score. 247 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 6: But the pointsmanship, that's part of any sport. 248 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 5: Come on, But he did the right thing. 249 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's got one hundred percent right, the referee hundred 250 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 7: percent right. 251 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 6: You you should have got two this three weeks spending, 252 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 6: I honestly worry about you. 253 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 7: Can you learn the rules? 254 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 8: Who won that battle? Then? Please? 255 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 7: Right right? 256 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: All right? 257 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 8: Anchored to the bottom of the ladder. They put up 258 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 8: a big fight yesterday. 259 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: They improved on their first two performances, there is no 260 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: doubt about that, but they are still struggling. This first try, 261 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: this one, he was a shocker, Like this was this 262 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: was concerning. 263 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 8: I thought, here we go. You know, they've had in 264 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 8: the flood gates. 265 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, they did have a 266 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: lot of position, and they still struggled with their attack. 267 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 8: You know, there's no denying that. 268 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: But they dug the they dug their heels and I 269 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: thought that their effort was outstanding yesterday. So I think 270 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: they made a mistake penalty and then they scored off 271 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: that set. 272 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 5: So there was three really soft plays to lead to 273 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 5: that try. 274 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: But then after that break like they dug in and 275 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: if I'm a paramatter fan, I go, at least my 276 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: side's having a go. I thought the effort was there, 277 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: but they were still clunky and attack. 278 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: They still didn't look like that they. 279 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 4: Were all on, all on the same It was a 280 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 4: better effort than what I. 281 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 8: Would look like scoring. 282 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: But again you go back to that effort, you know, 283 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: that's that's the big thing. 284 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 8: The first two games was embarrassing. 285 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 5: Really. 286 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: You could see the effort, the intent and the passion 287 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: in the jersey Zach Lomax, he was the best player 288 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: on the field. 289 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 8: What a game like. 290 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: You could tell he was going to do everything possible 291 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: to win that, to win that game, and he tried 292 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: his heart out. 293 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 8: Unfortunately they just fell short. 294 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 5: Even here at the desk on half time, right on 295 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 5: half time. 296 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 3: And when you're battling breath, right, the first thing you 297 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 3: want to see his effort, and Bloke's having a go 298 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: because the first couple of weeks you could argue that 299 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 3: effort wasn't there begins with that you can build from that. 300 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that's going to be your baseline, right, Yeah, 301 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 3: Bloke's having a go, putting some effort in and having 302 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 3: dealing guys more to though. 303 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to put a bulls on his head, 304 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: but he kind of has himself with this deal, right. 305 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 8: You know, he's been one of the average. 306 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: He's probably been in the second half in terms of 307 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: their team. He's been average every week, even yesterday, he 308 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: wasn't one of the better ones. And he needs to 309 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: be right. Like, you talk about points, you talk about leadership, 310 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: you talk about owning a game. 311 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 8: If he had on that game yesterday, they win. You know, 312 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 8: he just hasn't been out to nail it. 313 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's disappointing because look, I thought there was a 314 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 6: possibility they could be sort of top ten club this 315 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 6: year with a new coach and you know, fresh era. 316 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 6: But I was expecting just to be there. Yeah, look 317 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 6: I had to look back. They lose this weekend. Look, 318 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 6: I think they're gone for the year. Anyway, did you 319 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 6: say top ten club? 320 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: Well yeah, now the West Side is the top twelve 321 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: club club last in your bag. 322 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be competitive towards the eight. 323 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 6: Now, if you lose your first four games, it's a 324 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 6: year done, and the statistical information to back that up. 325 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 6: In NRL history, there's only been one club in nineteen 326 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 6: thirty two it was a new Town has won a 327 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 6: comp after losing four games. You can't make the top 328 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 6: four unless you win your first the eighth. 329 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: Well that's what I'm saying. 330 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 6: But it's hard for their fans breath because they've had 331 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: some tough years and as we said here, they're going 332 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 6: through what Canterbury did not probably not as bad as 333 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 6: Canterbury in twenty one, but I can't see a lot 334 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 6: of excitement there this year. 335 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 7: I reckon if they if they make the top. 336 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 5: Eight this year. 337 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: That would be a roaring success for Jason Rowles, given 338 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: what he's done in the offseason, the cultural brooms. 339 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 7: Probably they're going well, they can saying three games into 340 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 7: the year they can turn around. 341 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: You think with Moses coming back there, I think Mose 342 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 3: will help them immensely. 343 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 7: I think we all know he's still a few weeks away. Yeah, 344 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 7: we all know the much better side than Mitch plays. 345 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 3: So I mean, look, it's a hell of a journey 346 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 3: to make the top eight from here. But I would 347 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: have thought everyone at that club, including Roylesey, realized this 348 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: year was going to be a bit more difficult than 349 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: the year. 350 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: They put that effort in every week and with Mitch back, 351 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: they will win a few games. They'll win quite a 352 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: handful game. Who knows, they could surprise us. But I 353 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: think we do underestimate the impact that Mitch does having. 354 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: I'll tell you it was enormous. 355 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: Yesterday Junior Parlow, I thought he was in the front 356 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 6: row and we both said he last week critical lack 357 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 6: of leadership. You said Ruddles, I said leadership. I thought 358 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 6: he led. I thought he led yesterday and had a 359 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 6: real ye be improvement from the eels. It was really 360 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 6: good to see, so hopefully they can continue that over 361 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: the next few weeks. Turning point thanks to Astley and 362 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 6: Mark Medical Hair Centers. What else would it be a 363 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 6: couple of crucial calls had the Raiders on the back 364 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 6: foot of Brookie and Ricky. 365 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 8: He wasn't happy. 366 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Comes from Starlin and Smith. He's a kid and now 367 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: Fogarty paid. 368 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 8: Chance for Chris, who's got support. 369 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: It hunted young, He'll go all the way. Okay. Decisions 370 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: under review for obstruction with Corey Horsebra. 371 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 9: What do you think of the decision when we had 372 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 9: our trigis left after twenty minutes, I've having no football 373 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 9: and we get to set in a round halfway and 374 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 9: we score a wonderful try. I mean, it's really difficult 375 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 9: coaching when you don't know the rules, you don't know interpretations. 376 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 9: Because I got no idea my ballplayers hit late. We 377 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 9: wanted to. We want to make defenders defend this year. 378 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 9: That was what the rule was when Wayne and Ivan 379 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 9: and I sat down with Ashley and Andrew and Graham. 380 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 9: But that's the point out of the window. We wanted 381 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 9: to make defenders defend. 382 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: He's only a meet. 383 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 9: Around when he's taken down to fund it out, try 384 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 9: to spin his way in from dummy. 385 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: Harf's going to be a. 386 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Penalty as well to man and Cory Hawsbrough is going 387 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: to the same ben. 388 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 3: Did you think that decision did Corey Horsburg was a 389 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: correct decision? 390 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 9: May They'll tell me it's correctly. It doesn't matter, they'll 391 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 9: tell me it was correct, Mad, I'm better off not 392 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 9: answering questions. I'm not going to talk about a reef. 393 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 9: I hope Andrew Rabday has an answer for us all. 394 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,719 Speaker 9: But I think it was six one sixty games, and 395 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 9: in the sixty games that go against my poor buggers, 396 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 9: I see those tackles every week by certain teams. Nothing's done. 397 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 9: Can you tell me, long I left. 398 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: To whether Raider is ill disciplined or was the ref 399 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: too harsh? Now, these are the halftime stats in the 400 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: match between the Seagulls and the Raiders, and they are alarming. 401 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. Seventy seven percent possession 402 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: in favor of the Seagulls. The big one there set 403 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: restarts five to the Seagulls, zero to the Raiders. 404 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 8: Two hundred and twenty. 405 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: Tackles made by the Raiders in just forty minutes of 406 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: rugby league compared to seventy one. So do we put 407 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: it down to the referees as Ricky has said, how 408 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: he thinks a big influence on this result in the 409 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: first half. 410 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 8: Or was it ill disciplined? 411 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 5: Well, it's a better both. 412 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 6: God that those stats didn't show the try just allowed 413 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 6: or the player in the sin bin either with twenty 414 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 6: three percent of ball, Well. 415 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: I meantats are a reflection of that, yes, Gordy. 416 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: Sorry, no, Look I think eleven extra sets right, so 417 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: that's a lot. So there's sixty odd tackles but they're 418 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 4: still over two hundred tackles, so you know, mainly to 419 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: dominate and they scored some tries and they've got some 420 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: repeat sets. 421 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: But it's a bit of both. I think it is 422 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 5: ill disciplined the six again. 423 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 4: We all know that they are fifty to fifties most 424 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 4: and that's why the referee does it instead of blind penalties. 425 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: We watch every side hold. 426 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: Them down so they get frustrated and they drop the ball. 427 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: So no, and I. 428 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 6: Reckon happened the Raiders when they beat the Warriors and 429 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 6: when they beat the Bronco coach before They went in 430 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 6: with a Penrith mindset, without the Penrith skill, but a 431 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 6: Penrith mindset to swarm, to show line speed and defense, 432 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: to cut out the time of their playmakers and really 433 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 6: get in the opposition's face. There's a little bit, you know, 434 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 6: there's a sneaking suspicion. I had that someone from one 435 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: of those clubs, whether it's a coach or has has 436 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 6: said to the NRL keep an eye on the Raiders. 437 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 8: Well, it would have to be. 438 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Is one of the coaches from those first two teams 439 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: they played has complained. 440 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: I think that something's happened. 441 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, the coach has been the NRL Football department all 442 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 6: the time. It almost to me looked preconceived that they 443 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 6: were going to keep, you know, a really strong look 444 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: at the Raiders yesterday. 445 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 2: That was impossible. Seven too. 446 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: But this is the problem for six again rule because 447 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 3: it becomes it just becomes a succession of six agains 448 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: because the team gets fatigue, mainly dominate possession, Kembra try 449 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 3: to slow things down more six agains are given and 450 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: you have games. We have games like this every year 451 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: where it just spirals out of control and camera just 452 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: couldn't wrestle the back. 453 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 8: I felt a bit. 454 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 7: Before sorry for them on the obstruction player. 455 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 8: We'll get to that quick after this, so I would 456 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 8: approve like this. 457 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: So first twenty minutes, whatever it was, where it was 458 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 1: before that, Sebastian krishno try. If anything, the Raiders were 459 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: on top, I believe, right, So it was it was 460 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: it was anyone's game. 461 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 8: They were al on top of the they had an opportunity. 462 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: They score that try, it gets given, then it's a 463 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: different game, right, But not only that, the sinbin changes everything. 464 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: That was a sinbin every day the week Hawsbury goes off. 465 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: So a lot of those probably set restarts. 466 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 8: We're in that period. This is this is ten They been. 467 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Every day a week, so the set restarts, you know, 468 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: and and dominance there may have been also because they 469 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: had twelve players in the film, they're trying to slow 470 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: the ruck down. 471 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 8: They got one lass place. 472 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: A lot of that, A lot of that contributes to that. 473 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: But let's get to the to the obstruction because this 474 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: was a big plan. This is one that Ricky wasn't 475 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: happy about. Now to the to us to the Naked Eye, 476 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: and that's a late shop by the way, so we 477 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: can get to that too, but so naked eye, you know, 478 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: going on other seasons, it probably is a penalty right 479 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: because he's hit, he's making contact with Cherry Evan. Cherry 480 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: Eves does have time to release, but it doesn't get there. Now, 481 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: Ricky was very outspoken about this because he sat in 482 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: the meeting. Yeah, and they said they were going to 483 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: change the interpretation of. 484 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 8: This rule and this is an example, he believes, when 485 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 8: they haven't changed it and they've just kept the same thing. 486 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ricky is held in such high regard by the NRL. 487 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 6: They picked three coaches to come in and talk obstructed 488 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 6: real police, how to make it better. It was Ricky, 489 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: it was Wayne Bennett, a four time Premier coach Ivan Cleary. 490 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 6: He was in that meeting actually just making the decisions 491 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 6: where they wanted to put the emphasis on players to 492 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 6: defend rather than you know, dive or you know, as 493 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 6: they have been. So for him to be in that 494 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 6: meeting for two or three hours to make a real 495 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 6: altercation on how the obstruction and for him to say 496 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 6: afterwards he did not understand the decision. 497 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: What hope of the fourteen who weren't there. 498 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: There's one thing that I think I look at as 499 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: a player is the reaction of the players and Dally 500 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 4: Cherry Evans looks and then he gets on his bike, 501 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 4: so maybe he thinks I could have got to him. 502 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: And then the two manly wide defenders Sab Sab and 503 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 4: Garrick I think make really poor reads and they could 504 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 4: have shut it down. 505 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: So also also DC had time, he had time to release. 506 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: The only is that what gets them in trouble is 507 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 1: Horse stops in the line. So the rule is really 508 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: horse was going to go through the line and not 509 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: impact the player, and he just makes enough contact. 510 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 8: With him there. 511 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: I made nowhere. 512 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 8: Disagreeing with you, but I'm just saying. 513 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 5: That that that's a try. I go. I'm okay with it. 514 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 3: I think that I was on the sideline for this game. God, 515 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 3: it's the first time I've really watched it on trip 516 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: a lot. I think there's minimal contact there. Actually I 517 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 3: don't have a problem with that. I think that should 518 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 3: be a try. But also you mentioned the late hit 519 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 3: on Morgan Smithy's, I mean Morgan Smithy's. 520 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 8: That's market will stop you there ready. 521 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: We've got some breaking news reports from Fairfax papers. The 522 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: d C tells mainly he's leaving at the end of 523 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: the season. No word yet on plans for next season. 524 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: May may not seek contract with rival club. 525 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 8: In twenty twenty six. So this is this is big 526 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 8: breaking news. 527 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: DCE tells Manly he's leaving the club at season's end. 528 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 6: Thoughts on this, well, that's it's a massive story, and 529 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 6: it's why Manly have been trying to spin for some 530 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 6: time that everything sweet Daly is happy. I've said all 531 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 6: along wasn Adam Reynolds type sit situation where he wanted 532 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 6: two years, they wanted one year, they wanted half. The 533 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 6: money's on now and I don't think DCE would come 534 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 6: out and make that announcement now unless the Dolphins, Saint 535 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 6: Georgia Lawarra or whoever. 536 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 5: I read that the roosters might have been thrown. 537 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 3: I just read the story of saying he hasn't decided 538 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: yet by the sounds, whether he's going to play on yet, so. 539 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 7: He's going to decide later in the year. 540 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: But this suggests there's obviously some I mean, Dailey said 541 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: last night, I was in the press conference. He said, 542 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: there's no animosity with the Manly club. There's no issues 543 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: with the Manly club. There no restand but this would 544 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 3: suggest there is animosity there. Why would he make this 545 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 3: decision unless this. 546 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 8: Has but he's going to retire, No, I think. 547 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 5: You'll play on. 548 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: But like he's probably thinking, look, I've had my run here, 549 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: I've given you ten great years or whatever it is, 550 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: fourteen sixteen great years, and I want to go home 551 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 4: like the Cherries and. 552 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 7: Has gone back to Queensla and got him Dolphins. 553 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: Well that's I think that's the romance of the game. 554 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: But that's his family name. 555 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 6: I haven't spoken to DCA, but from what I'm told 556 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 6: around the traps is he felt a little disrespected around 557 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 6: only getting the one year deal. 558 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 8: Surely that's not gave back, but they might have got time. 559 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, even if it was one year, now, 560 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: merely must have just thought. If you're saying that, that 561 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: means merely must have gained the ultimatum. It's only one year, 562 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: that's it because we thought he may negotiated to you. 563 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if Manly game a time limit. 564 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: Because whatever Cherry Evans did reaction this is he mamily 565 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 6: couldn't wait till the end of the year in October 566 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 6: for him to make that decision. 567 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: Spoken with some of the manly today about this exact situation. 568 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 3: They said, the point that Scott pens in town at 569 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 3: the moment, the owner and chairman. 570 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 7: He's back for a week or so to go to 571 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 7: the Paramatta game. 572 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: And I think the plan was to sit down with 573 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 3: Dahli at some point this week and say we need 574 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: an answer to you. 575 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: Now. 576 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: Maybe it happened today, but it hadn't happened earlier today 577 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: when I spoke to someone and Marly, but I suspect 578 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: the club's asked for a decision out of daily and 579 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,479 Speaker 3: Daly's told them that's swift. 580 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 6: What's interesting where he might head up Joe Webby, is 581 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 6: it webe the manager? You know what else Joe webe? 582 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 6: James Tedesco and Rhys Robson. Could he provide a spine 583 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: for the Sydney Roos. 584 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: Look, it's well, let's let's dive into that. 585 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 6: Sam walkeruld have to play for because they love Samborger. 586 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: That's okay, Sam Walker can still be there and that's 587 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: what they need. Right now, you can play six, they 588 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: then experienced seven. Right now to partner someone like Walker. 589 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: Walker can play with the freedom DC controls the team. 590 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: You've got Robson going there, which we didn't mention last 591 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: week when Brendan Smith they announced that he was moving on. 592 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 8: They've got Robson going to the club. 593 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, same manager as to Disco and Robson, 594 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: this is a big This is big and for him 595 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: to make this swift call so quickly without even going 596 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: a few weeks or months into this season, it's big possibility. 597 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 8: Brother. 598 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: I've just got a text saying he's either going to 599 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 3: the Dolphins or Roosters, and that's from someone who spoke 600 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: to someone yesterday at the game about it. 601 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 8: So Dolphins or Roosters. 602 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 5: There you have. 603 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 6: Well, as I said on this show, I think it 604 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 6: was last week that Terry Burder, the Dolphins CEO, said, 605 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 6: we'll wait, we'll see what Manly doing and if he 606 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 6: becomes available, which he has, will be very very interested 607 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 6: because I said that relationship with that agent, with those 608 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: two big names. 609 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, do we think that mainly have fought hard enough here? 610 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: I don't. Look, everyone keeps using his age. 611 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 6: Thirty six years of age is as fit as a 612 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 6: thirty year old. 613 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: He wins every time trial. 614 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 6: He's missed twenty three games in fifteen years. And you know, 615 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 6: half of those games he missed. 616 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 5: They know more than we know. They think this. 617 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 4: We just want to give him one more year. That's 618 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 4: our salary cap. And we got these young kids that 619 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 4: we want. 620 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: Who's coming in next A young rugby kid named Jerry 621 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 3: Walsh played for the Buts a couple of years. 622 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: We've got another one too, they got from the West Lights. 623 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 7: But he's only he's seventeen or something. 624 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to study in five And they 625 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: kept money aside for DAI, a significant amount of money 626 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 3: aside for DAI for at least next season. And I've 627 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: said it all along. I think I think if I 628 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 3: was in their shoes, I would have only offered one 629 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 3: year with the ability to extend work season. Well, you know, 630 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 3: at the stage of your career, good, you've got to 631 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 3: take a little less. But now he's going to another club. 632 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: He probably doesn't because. 633 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 7: He's a manly he's been there so long, so much. 634 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: Take a litle bit less. But now he's going to 635 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: another club. I'd say he's worth eight hundred minimum because 636 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: he's going to another. 637 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 6: Well, he's probably rather than take Sorry breaking news, mester Off. 638 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: And Penn have just contacted Fox League and said they're 639 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: going to counter this with a two year offer, so 640 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: they don't believe this is over. So fair Fax papers 641 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: were reporting that he will move on at the end 642 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: of this season. But now we've heard from the hierarchy 643 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: at the mainly Seagals live on a near goot account 644 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: of this with a two year offer to DC, so 645 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: this is far from over by the sounds of it. 646 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 6: What a massive story, and that the fact that they've 647 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 6: reacted differently to the South Sendy Rabbit hos did. It 648 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 6: got so emotional with Adam Reynolds. The fans were filthy, 649 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 6: but Blake Suley would not budge and would not give 650 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 6: him that extra year. 651 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: It's not too late though, now buzz that the damage 652 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: hasn't where Dale is concerned. The damage hasn't been done. 653 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: And they went on look and then now they've changed Look. 654 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 6: I think I think they owed him the respect of 655 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 6: two years in that he is one of the greatest 656 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: players to ever put that jersey on ever Captain Queensland, 657 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 6: Captain Manly won a title there started that you know. 658 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 2: So won him to stage. 659 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: Because it they didn't originally offer the two years. He 660 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: said see you later, I'm moving on and then within 661 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, twenty four hours, they're saying no, that you 662 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: can have the two years. 663 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 8: Now. 664 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: Well, you know what's probably happened. The pumpers are watching 665 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: this show and there's outrage to watch the show. Well, 666 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 2: there would be outrage. Here's a favorite son, Well. 667 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 7: Scott keens in town too, i'd say. 668 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: And Scott's able to you know, hit go on a 669 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: deal pretty quickly, and he runs the club. 670 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 7: He owns the club, so it's. 671 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 6: His spend because of the veteran player allowed, so they 672 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 6: can get him on the cap a lot cheaper. And 673 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 6: this shouldn't have exploded into the story it has. I 674 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 6: reckon they could have put this away some time ago. 675 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: You've got to give credit to penemstro They've got straight 676 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: on the phone here, very master Fox League, Fox Sports 677 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: and have said, you know, this ain't happening. We're putting 678 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 1: a two year deal to him. So they're they're on, 679 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: they're on the ball here. 680 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 6: Well, that's one thing I will say. They're a very 681 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 6: very well managed club. And I'm surprised it's got this far, 682 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 6: but there's any any hope of staying these two will 683 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 6: pull it off. 684 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 8: All right, what's he worth? You reckon DC. 685 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: Well, you're the. 686 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I just to think he's still 687 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: a million dollar half back. 688 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 4: He's on he's a he's a State of Origin halfback. 689 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 4: And let me tell you, at that level, I think 690 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: he still cuts the must and break. 691 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: Right on the weekend. 692 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 6: If he does play for another two years, he becomes 693 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 6: the oldest player in the history of the He goes 694 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 6: past Paul Gallon, he. 695 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: Breaks the four hundred barrey. We're going to go to 696 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: a break as he's more to come. We're going to 697 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: have more on this story. We're going to hit the 698 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: phones trying to get as much information as we can