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Speaker 1: So, Matt, I've had a business.
Speaker 2: Idea, believe it or not, another one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm not going to do this because I
Speaker 1: don't have the money or the technology. But it's kind
Speaker 1: of on the theme of, like, you know how AI
Speaker 1: is like taking over and like the metaverse and all
Speaker 1: the VR headsets and being in virtual reality.
Speaker 3: So I had this idea.
Speaker 1: The other weekend, AJ and I were driving and we
Speaker 1: went past this huge graveyard in Newcastle and we drove
Speaker 1: past it and I said, like, graveyards, Like I get
Speaker 1: why they exist, but they're a bit of a fucking
Speaker 1: I saw, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like they're quite grim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when you're just driving passes thousands.
Speaker 2: Do you have any superstitions about graveyards?
Speaker 4: Like when I drive past, I got to hold my
Speaker 4: breath because when I was younger I heard that and
Speaker 4: so now still to stay every time I drive past,
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to do that, but I was just driving
Speaker 1: past and looking at it. And this is this for
Speaker 1: any of you that are in Newcastle. It's Sandgate Cemetery.
Speaker 1: If you know where that is, shout out. It's huge,
Speaker 1: Like there's got to be like ten thousand graves in there.
Speaker 1: And as we drove past, I said to AJ, that
Speaker 1: is just like I get, we need somewhere to bury people,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's an eyesore. And I said to AJ,
Speaker 1: there's got to be like, I know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people get cremated now. Probably I don't know the popularity
Speaker 1: of being cremated versus buried, but surely more people get
Speaker 1: cremated now than buried.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's look that up.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I said to AJ, there's got to be
Speaker 1: a way for it to be modernized, like graveyards. And
Speaker 1: then I started thinking there's got to be virtual graveyards
Speaker 1: one day.
Speaker 2: Virtual. Yeah, I need like a car elevator, you know those.
Speaker 3: The ones that go underground.
Speaker 4: You live in an apartment or something, and you've got
Speaker 4: the car elevator and you've got to go down and
Speaker 4: then they put the car in the right spot for you.
Speaker 3: So I've got an even better idea.
Speaker 1: Okay, And if some massive tech AI company hasn't thought
Speaker 1: of this yet, they're fucking stupid because this is a
Speaker 1: billion dollar idea. And I want to know if you
Speaker 1: could get behind this, Matt and I reckon. This is
Speaker 1: mark my word in this fucking podcast. If this idea
Speaker 1: doesn't exist already, it's going to in the future.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So let's say just how we have ID right, we
Speaker 1: have our passport, we have our driver's license. There should
Speaker 1: be a new technology that comes in and let's say
Speaker 1: every five or ten years, we go and get this
Speaker 1: like scan done, which creates a digital version of ourselves.
Speaker 1: And you go every five to ten years so that
Speaker 1: your digital version of you, like your avatar or whatever,
Speaker 1: stays current with what you roughly look like. Right, And
Speaker 1: so we pay this subscription to have this avatar. And
Speaker 1: it's all to do with when you die.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm following for now, but this sounds a
Speaker 2: bit were were for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then when you die, I don't know how
Speaker 1: it would work, but just say we get cremated, but
Speaker 1: some big tech company has your avatar, like your virtual
Speaker 1: version of yourself. So when you die, because you got
Speaker 1: that thing renewed every five to ten years.
Speaker 3: This three D hologram.
Speaker 1: Of yourself looks exactly like you were when you passed away,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter if you're fifteen or eighty five. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you or your family pay a subscription for you
Speaker 1: to be in this virtual reality world where your family.
Speaker 1: And I think this could tie in with like the
Speaker 1: morning process, because I know, like different cultures have different
Speaker 1: ways of mourning the dead, and I feel like with us,
Speaker 1: it's really like you die, you go get fucking burnt
Speaker 1: to smitheens and see you later, like that's it, Whereas
Speaker 1: I know other cultures do more things with the body
Speaker 1: and whatever. So then your family would pay a subscription,
Speaker 1: say it's a yearly subscription where you are stored in
Speaker 1: this virtual reality world. So let's say, for example, I
Speaker 1: died and I had this hologram AI thing. You could
Speaker 1: then get the headset, whether it's like the Meta headset
Speaker 1: or the Apple fucking Vision Pro or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and you can come and see me.
Speaker 2: So it's like the Wii lounge. Remember, you'd play we
Speaker 2: and all the MEAs would be running around in the lounge.
Speaker 1: So just like the meta headset that I have you
Speaker 1: or just say my family or whoever can put the
Speaker 1: headset on. They can pick whatever environment they're going to
Speaker 1: be in, and you know, you could then come and
Speaker 1: see me in let's say this podcast studio or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then because technology is so fucking good and so advanced,
Speaker 1: and I had that hologram thing of me, then you
Speaker 1: could come and see me, you could talk to me,
Speaker 1: we could hang out in whatever environment it may be
Speaker 1: in the virtual reality world.
Speaker 3: And I yeah, Hannah, I have some question.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when you see people at all their different
Speaker 5: avatar ages, no, or is that you as an old person?
Speaker 1: No, it could be you when you died, like uh,
Speaker 1: you know, that's why you get it updated every five years.
Speaker 1: So let's say you pass away when you're fifteen, then
Speaker 1: you can constantly go back and hang out with a
Speaker 1: fifteen year old version of me.
Speaker 5: And is it stored? So say, if my grandpa died
Speaker 5: and we've got him on the avatar, then my grandchildren
Speaker 5: could visit him, could visit their ancestors.
Speaker 2: I hate this, No, I love this.
Speaker 1: I think this is the way it's going to go
Speaker 1: because then you could go and meet with me. And
Speaker 1: because technology is so fucking good. It would know my voice,
Speaker 1: my personality, everything, and then you could hang out with
Speaker 1: your loved ones who have passed away and talk to them.
Speaker 1: And I think that would be so much better than
Speaker 1: just burning to a crisp and seat later.
Speaker 4: Which, by the way, we did google it after all
Speaker 4: that around seventy percent of funerals now.
Speaker 3: Involve a cremation. I think that it's a lot.
Speaker 2: Higher than I thought.
Speaker 4: I didn't think that that many people were getting cremated,
Speaker 4: but there you go.
Speaker 1: I think it would help a lot more with the
Speaker 1: morning process because you could go and see that person.
Speaker 2: No, I rip it off like a band aid.
Speaker 1: Noah, I reckon, mark my fucking word. I told this
Speaker 1: to AJ and he goes, first of all, how the
Speaker 1: fuck did you think of this? But second of all,
Speaker 1: like some massive tech AI company needs to get on
Speaker 1: board with this idea. I would pay for that for
Speaker 1: my family. Really, I knew you'd fucking hate it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just feel that gives me a bit icky. I
Speaker 4: just think it let it go in the past. And
Speaker 4: the thing is with the AIS, it can go so wrong.
Speaker 4: I mean, let's actually because you know, I'm always worst
Speaker 4: case scenario. Think about it, your little old lady being
Speaker 4: with her husband seventy years, he's just started. Little old
Speaker 4: lady signs up with her life savings to this fucking
Speaker 4: subscription service.
Speaker 2: Raught by the.
Speaker 4: Way, should be a one off fee. Should be a
Speaker 4: one off fee. I think a subscription service you're praying
Speaker 4: on the vulnerable there, because the little old lady's going
Speaker 4: to sign up, and then she's gonna die and her
Speaker 4: bank account's going to be drained by this subscription serion.
Speaker 1: How much money that company we made, Like funerals are
Speaker 1: never fucking going out of fashion. People are always going
Speaker 1: to be dying, okay.
Speaker 4: And then the little old lady goes right now, I'm
Speaker 4: going to see my husband who's just died. And she
Speaker 4: goes into this alternate reality and then the AI technology
Speaker 4: stuffs up. She either gets someone else, or she doesn't
Speaker 4: get the right person, like she gets him but he's
Speaker 4: got a different voice, or maybe you know something's gone
Speaker 4: wrong and that AI technology doesn't even remember her. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's traumatizing, isn't it. That's traumatic for a little old woman.
Speaker 4: And imagine a mum grieving over the loss of her child.
Speaker 4: She goes to see the child in this alternate universe.
Speaker 4: But I mean, we saw that lady complain about HERKFC
Speaker 4: being wrong. I mean, imagine the rants that would come
Speaker 4: from from something like this.
Speaker 1: There's going to be rands, no matter the business. And
Speaker 1: I just think this is a really genius fucking idea.
Speaker 1: And I wish I had a billion dollars.
Speaker 4: Like, trust me, we're gonna have to go in the
Speaker 4: BroadcastChannel and say is this camp or NAF, because I'm
Speaker 4: voting NAF, and you know, I think everything's camp.
Speaker 3: But this just gives me a little bit ikey, ikey,
Speaker 3: you know what it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: I think, leave the dead dead and rest in peace,
Speaker 4: and God bless him, be gay, appreciate you lived your
Speaker 4: life and now you're gone. I don't think we need
Speaker 4: to be interfering with them.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I think it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. The way that technology is, the way that
Speaker 1: the metaverse is, the way that AI is going, you
Speaker 1: are absolutely going to be able to hang out with
Speaker 1: the deceased through technology.
Speaker 3: It's going to happen.
Speaker 1: And I swear to God if this doesn't fucking exist,
Speaker 1: and its like someone needs to get on this.
Speaker 4: I feel like can exist in some sort of way,
Speaker 4: like you could definitely like AI could definitely make like
Speaker 4: I'm sure I could go on like an AI system
Speaker 4: right now and put in a photo of like someone
Speaker 4: in my life who has passed away and said, you know,
Speaker 4: and say to the AI generator thing like make them
Speaker 4: do a video message saying happy birthday to me. I'm
Speaker 4: sure AI could do that today. But I think like
Speaker 4: walking around with dead people your fucking psycho. If you
Speaker 4: even want to do that, you know what I mean? No, see,
Speaker 4: I think you're a bit cooked for that, because imagine
Speaker 4: being like, you know what, I'm going to go do
Speaker 4: to that and we go hang out with my dead
Speaker 4: granddad because that's just what I feel like doing.
Speaker 2: I think that's fucking insane.
Speaker 1: Well, you should get ready, Max, It's going to happen
Speaker 1: because I've thought of it. Some massive AI company has
Speaker 1: already thought of it. They're already programming developing it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: Like everyone grieves differently, and perhaps this would be fantastic
Speaker 4: for some people.
Speaker 1: But it would be bad to some too. Some people
Speaker 1: would get obsessed with it and never want to leave
Speaker 1: the metaverse. But that's what I think about the metaverse
Speaker 1: in general, people are going to get obsessed and not
Speaker 1: live in their real life anymore.
Speaker 3: They're just going to live in the digital world.
Speaker 4: Take us back to fucking horse carriages and cobblestone streets plays.
Speaker 4: I'm fucking over it. Bring on the flag. Seriously, I'm
Speaker 4: a bit done with all this. I don't want to
Speaker 4: live in the future. Bit over it. Actually it's a
Speaker 4: bit tiring, the fact I got to think about ideas
Speaker 4: like this.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it happen now, it probably
Speaker 1: will happen in our lifetime.
Speaker 4: To be honest, Still Monday morning for me, Darling, like,
Speaker 4: I can't This was a big conversation to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, final thoughts. You're like all about it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is absolutely fucking insane, and I don't know.
Speaker 2: We'll take it to the scrollers though.
Speaker 4: They can let us know whether they think this is
Speaker 4: a fabulous revolutionary idea. Perhaps someone knows something similar to
Speaker 4: this that already exists. I'm sure there's something out there
Speaker 4: that's like similar, maybe not as advanced as what you've said,
Speaker 4: and then we can you can also let us know
Speaker 4: if you think Brittany's fucking insane, and this is the
Speaker 4: weirdest idea even No.
Speaker 1: I love the AI, I love chat GPT, I love
Speaker 1: the robots.
Speaker 3: Fucking bring it on. I want to lot amongst it.
Speaker 2: You know, I love all your business ideas, but I
Speaker 2: think you've missed.
Speaker 3: The mark with this is a billion dollar business idea.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, if it happens in our lifetime,
Speaker 1: I'm going to look up how much money that company's making,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say I fucking thought of it first.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll let you and I will not have any
Speaker 4: part in it. I just think as well, think about dying.
Speaker 4: Think if you died?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you not think it's fucking insane for me
Speaker 2: to go? You know what I want to do today?
Speaker 4: I want to talk to Brittany and put on the
Speaker 4: headset and pretend you're here recording an episode of High
Speaker 4: Scrollers with me. That because also then.
Speaker 1: I think it would be a private thing, like not
Speaker 1: anyone would be able to access it, like you could
Speaker 1: have your family account, right and only you can, like
Speaker 1: some random can't come being out with me.
Speaker 4: But that's also devastating because what if I forget to
Speaker 4: put someone on my account before I die and say
Speaker 4: these people are allowed or what if I in the
Speaker 4: five years span.
Speaker 2: See there's a lot of loopholes here, the five year span.
Speaker 4: First of all, I let's say have an accident, lose
Speaker 4: a limb, and then in the five years I haven't
Speaker 4: had an updated and.
Speaker 3: That's why I have to do it every five years.
Speaker 2: But five years long time.
Speaker 1: This would all tie in as well, because I think
Speaker 1: one day we're going to get rid of passports, We're
Speaker 1: going to get rid of physical licenses. So this holographic.
Speaker 2: Passports will ever go? I do? They can't. Some country
Speaker 2: can't keep up with not like not every country has technology, babe. True,
Speaker 2: you're talking from a stance of privilege here.
Speaker 1: And when people lose their passports, I'm like, fuck, there's
Speaker 1: got to be a digital way of doing this, saying.
Speaker 4: It will be yeah, because imagine, you know, going to
Speaker 4: those countries that don't even they'd be like when I
Speaker 4: got a Fiji, there's no electronic So true, you line
Speaker 4: up at a trestle table, babe, and she's like boulah
Speaker 4: and you're in there's I don't even know whether like
Speaker 4: there's no extensive you know, security and things like that.
Speaker 4: So but there was one other point I made there.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, if you died today and I wanted to
Speaker 4: use it, you'd have blonde hair and extensions, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it'll be close enough if it was like five years.
Speaker 1: Every five years you get updated, like you get your
Speaker 1: license updated.
Speaker 2: Okay. And then the other thing is what if you
Speaker 2: make a friend. For example, you know the other week
Speaker 2: you saw at the Acres, you saw Lisa from the
Speaker 2: Saddle Club. Now what if you wanted Lisa from the
Speaker 2: Saddle Club on? But you got your updated your friends
Speaker 2: and family five years ago, and.
Speaker 3: Now people could apply. He could apply to see you.
Speaker 4: See right, You're just coming out with anything now just
Speaker 4: to make this happen.
Speaker 3: So I did, Like, it's not set in stone. I
Speaker 3: haven't mapped it out. I haven't done a business plan
Speaker 3: for this yet.
Speaker 4: I am genuinely thinking the scroll is going to be
Speaker 4: on my side with this. I'd be very surprised if
Speaker 4: the results came back in your favor.
Speaker 1: Well, don't blame me for love and the AI and
Speaker 1: the robots.
Speaker 3: I'm fucking here for it.
Speaker 4: Wanting to connect with dead people, I mean, I get it,
Speaker 4: but I also go so I get it. In closing,
Speaker 4: I get it, I understand. I go, yes, that would work,
Speaker 4: But would it work no? Is what I'm saying. So, yes,
Speaker 4: your business idea, I go, yes, that works, that makes sense. Yes,
Speaker 4: you could make a lot of money. I think if
Speaker 4: you genuinely release that to the world, you wouldn't get anywhere.
Speaker 4: I don't see people signing up. I don't see people
Speaker 4: going through the admin of getting done every five years.
Speaker 4: I don't see people. It's all too fiddly, too hard,
Speaker 4: and so they're not signing up. The people that do
Speaker 4: sign up don't know how to use it properly. Like
Speaker 4: it's so I'm like, yes, the business ide works, but
Speaker 4: if you had to actually execute the business idea, you
Speaker 4: wouldn't make any money. I don't think it's a billion
Speaker 4: dollar business idea. I reckon it's a it's a it's
Speaker 4: a it's a four five, four, four or five figure business,
Speaker 4: not even a six.
Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm not gonna start it because I'm not
Speaker 1: in app development or AI or anything like that. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I've thought of an idea, and I
Speaker 1: think it's going to happen one day. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be me because I couldn't afford it. But I
Speaker 1: reckon with the way technology is going, it's going to
Speaker 1: happen to people, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 4: All Right, well, we'll leave it there because I've had
Speaker 4: enough of this conversation and I can't think any further.
Speaker 2: So with that said, thanks for listening, scrollers.
Speaker 4: Hope you enjoyed this very strange Close Friends episode, and
Speaker 4: we'll see you next Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Bye.