1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome to Breaking Even with Al Peyton and 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: your official Supercoach AFL podcast feed heading into round twenty. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: I am your host, Al Peyton, back after a couple 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: of weeks off with my good friends Chloe. Welcome, thanks 5 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: for hosting in my absence. Did a great job, but 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 1: sorry I've push you back over there for this week. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: That's okay, back in my usual spot on the couch. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Happy to be here. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: And patch us fresh from the people's pen. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 3: Gooday, I've had a sizzle and I'm delighted to be here. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: Good to have you back out. 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Thanks everybody for listening. Remember to 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: like and subscribe, leave a review. We love your feedback. 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Just obviously not a whole lot of time left in 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: the season, but we'll take on board anything people say, 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: and obviously lots of discussion about what we might be 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: able to do next year, so get that in. And 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: of course super Coach plus is still there for Supercoach 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: Finals in leagues which start next week for most leagues, 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, valuable tools in there, so remember to jump 21 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: onto super Coach Plus. Not that many trades around for 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: most people this week, but some people do still have 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: some We've got some very interesting stats about that, I 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: would say insane. Actually, when we get to those some 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: good captains until that, of course, is more important than ever. 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Will reveal some rogue trades and answer some of your 27 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: curly questions. But first, every super coach knows managing injuries 28 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: is the key to success. This is the injury report, 29 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: proudly brought to you by HB at your Health Dream Team. 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: Thankfully this week a lot shorter than it was that 31 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: you guys had to deal with when I was away. 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Just a few names here of interest. Connor Rosie miss 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: last week is a test to come back in the 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: showdown with his hands, so I guess we'll find out 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: later in the week, but I think probably more likely 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: than not hopefully Rosie will play this week. Jason Horn 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: Francis was TBF on the TBC, I should say, on 38 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: the injury list last week, but he's now and US 39 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: for six weeks, so that rules him out from a 40 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: super coach point of view, and I would say for 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: the Power as well. And Dan Rioli's out for four 42 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: to six weeks, which is a crippling blow for my 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: draft side, but I'm not sure if it affects too 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: many other people in classic. 45 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 3: Tom Stewart for those who jumped on board, were subbed 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: oubt of the Cats game with a knee injury, and 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: they'll keep an eye on him this week. He's listed 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: down as available, but you know, genterly can't rest anybody. 49 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: Keep an eye out there for Tom Steeart owners. Will 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: Day is available with a foot to the joy of 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: Hawthorne and supporters everywhere. And for those still with Cooper Simpson, 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: he's a test this week and with Matthew Johnson out 53 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: of the docker's side, maybe he comes straight back in 54 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: at AFL level. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: Definitely good for those who held Cooper Simpson all the 56 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: way through that injury. But not such great news coming 57 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: out of Carleton. It's not necessarily an injury, but Sam 58 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: Doherty has announced his retirement effective after this week's games. 59 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 4: If you have him, you can get one more game 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: out of him, but hopefully you have a trade to 61 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: move him on after that. 62 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: The HbF injury report for your heart. 63 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: This week, Yes, very much so. 64 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: And you were down there yesterday, Chloe, what was the 65 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: mood like? 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 4: Yep, he seems like he's ready to hang up the 67 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: boots and move on. So he always wanted to retire 68 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 4: of his own accord. So it's great that he did 69 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: get to do that, but yeah, disappointing for Supercoat owners. 70 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: But more so, we're just so grateful that he was 71 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: able to come back so many times from so many setbacks. 72 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 4: So thanks Doc for all the super Coach points and 73 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: for an amazing career. 74 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, that is a wrap on this week's injury report. 75 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Thanks to HbF to make the smart move join HbF 76 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: your Health Dream Team. A couple of quick shout outs 77 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: before we get into the show. Obviously to the guys 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: for caring filling in while I was away. I did 79 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: bump into some Supercoach fans on my trip farim Wid. 80 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: I did a bit of hiking up in Wa and 81 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: I found someone ade when airport come and said hello. 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: And then I actually someone wanted a selfie when I 83 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: was doing a hike in pickin any creek in the 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: Bungle Bungle range. So you can't escape Supercoach. It follows 85 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: you everywhere. 86 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: You have your super Coach hat on at the time, 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: or I. 88 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Didn't so, but they obviously I reckon from the Code 89 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: Sports YouTube channel, obviously I must have been watching on there, 90 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: and of course I did want to mention too that 91 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: the good folks at Champion Data were very kind enough 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: to let Chloe and myself a bit behind the scenes 93 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: look on the weekend at how they actually gather the 94 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: stats in the box at the MCG then back at 95 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: the Bunker the Nerves Center back in South Bank as well, 96 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: which is pretty incredible actually, to just wash it all 97 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: in action, and yeah, I don't think I'll ever doubt 98 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: Champion Data again in terms of potentially missing any stats 99 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: is just insane. The level of scrutiny and sort of 100 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: science that goes into it. But yeah, preparing some content 101 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: around that, so keep an eye out for that, some 102 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: videos and writing up an article on how that all works. 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, great to you know, it was great opportunity 104 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: and thanks to the guys at Champion for letting us in, 105 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: and I think Patrio to shout out as well. 106 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to shout out the fandoms lad for 107 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 3: being so welcoming with their video reviews. I've been calling 108 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: them for them for a few weeks and I'd happily 109 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: sent money and I was so welcoming and lovely about it. 110 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: So just to shout out to both them and as 111 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: Coloy mentioned Sam Dockety retired, which was tragic for super coaches. 112 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 3: That aren't even tragic for Carlton fans everywhere, even more 113 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: tragic for me personally, who traded him in in my 114 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: keeper league minutes before hences his retirement minute Midt literally 115 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 3: minutes minute. Yeah, so we won't dwell on it, but 116 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: just thought i'd shout that out there. Sometimes just blunders 117 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: happen and there's nothing you can do about it. So 118 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: just shouted that out. 119 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Well, we're talking super Coach Classic really here. And the 120 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: next segment is rogue Traders, and that probably counts as one. 121 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: I think it was the rogus of trades. 122 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: You've got something else in the dealers. 123 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 3: I got some draft picks, but I let Darcy Parish 124 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: go and it's the whole thing. We're not gonna We're 125 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 3: not going to unpack that. 126 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just had a quick look at coaches 127 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: in the top one percent and I've got some trade 128 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: stats on those, which we'll get into in a second, 129 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: but thinking people who maybe do have a luxury trade 130 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: or a trade they could use who they are looking 131 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: at and some of the low low trade ins this 132 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: week for coaches, this is bear in mind in the 133 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: top one percent, so that's in about the top sort 134 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: of two k in the overall ranks. We've got one 135 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: coach bringing in Max Hall, which I actually don't hate. 136 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: That is about the six rank forward sort of on 137 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: five round average, having a great run down there. And 138 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: Dan Curtin also coming into one team Hayden Young someone 139 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: like what they saw in a quarter last week. 140 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: I had him in and he's back out and he'll 141 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: be back in. 142 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Possibly that could be the two coaches bringing in haytiank 143 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: so he could be one of those roy led another 144 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: patch favourite. One coach also bringing in Finno Sullivan which 145 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: is a little bit more out there. Yes, scored eighties 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, but yeah, I wouldn't have thought 147 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: of that. And four people bringing in Hugh Boxhall who 148 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: has found some form for the Saint still sort of 149 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: a rookie back up sort of option, I guess if 150 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: you want. And at the trade out, so I did 151 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: see two people trading out Lockie Blackiston, so he's been 152 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: a great servant for three or four weeks. They've he's 153 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: done enough and he's ready to go. And also two 154 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: coaches in the top one percent trading at Finn Callahan, 155 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure what the strategy is there. 156 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: You know, they ring tigher than me, so I guess 157 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. 158 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: We'll find out. Shout out to Locky Blackston as well 159 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 3: for being my very admirable Tristian Sherry cover with an 160 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: eighty four. Thanks Locky, good stuff. 161 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 4: I did find some rogue trades this week too, and 162 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: it stays on the Sam Dougherty theme. Actually, we've got 163 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: five coaches trading him in, potentially just for one last 164 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: hurrah of owning Doc in super coach. So the players 165 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: that are leaving people's team for Sam Dougherty to come in, 166 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: we've got one Jason horn Francis, one Zack Johnson, one 167 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: Zach Bailey, one Joe Fonte and one Max Hall. 168 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: So you know, I guess if you've got enough trades left. 169 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 4: If you've got more of a league mentality, maybe it's 170 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 4: worth it. 171 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, you presumably want another one game, yeah him out. 172 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you've got enough trades to trade him back in, 173 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 4: maybe he'll have a massive final game, get you a 174 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 4: bit of a spike score and move him on. But 175 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be doing it. As much as I would 176 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: love to have him in my team one more time, 177 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be recommending it. 178 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: But you'd need a lot of trades left, and I 179 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: don't know who could possibly have that many trades. 180 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, actually not metcha. It's funny that you mentioned that, 181 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: because I did get some numbers on overall you know 182 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: how many trades people do have left, and so of 183 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: the everyone playing super Coach, that's more than one hundred 184 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: and ninety five thousand of us this year, thirteen percent 185 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: of those are down to zero trades, and then you've 186 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: sort of got nine percent have one trade left, nine 187 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: percent have two trades left. So you know, pretty a 188 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: lot of people down to sort of one or two 189 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: trades or fewer, and twenty percent have four or more. 190 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: So those are in a pretty good position. But if 191 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you go down to the top one percent, as I said, 192 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: roughly sort of top two k, top what there was 193 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a nine hundred and fifty players, You've got twenty two 194 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: percent of those, so one in five, more than tiney 195 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: five coaches have zero trades. They're out completely. Another twenty 196 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: eight percent on one and twenty six percent have two. 197 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: So that's like, well, over half. 198 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: Of that's seventy five percent of two trades or less. Yeah, 199 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 3: it's not many, that's not a lot. 200 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: But the actual the most remarkable number out of all 201 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of this was it eleven percent of the top one 202 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: percent of four trades or more. That's about two hundred people, 203 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: and one of those has ten trades left and did 204 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: ten more digging. 205 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: They know what range trade is or they ranged. 206 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: Four hundred and thirty eight currently. If you if you're 207 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: out there, we'd love to hear from you. So that's 208 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: pretty good. They're going well. They have ten trades left and. 209 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: Three boosts the dream good lord. 210 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: So how they've played super goes very differently to everybody else, 211 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: I think. But if you've got to that position, no, 212 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: aw apparently they're making trades this week, so probably be 213 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: down to eight or seven you would think after this week. 214 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: So it's not a team that's just been left and 215 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: it's somehow sales. 216 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: They left it for a bit in the middle of 217 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: the year. 218 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: Maybe instead of like rage trading out of these players 219 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: that we decided we didn't. 220 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: Like for a few weeks, maybe they have stuck. 221 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 2: Fast and now they're reaping their rewards. 222 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 3: Maybe they went to Europe and didn't open the supercoach 223 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: out every five minutes late. Some people me, if you just. 224 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you just left the captaincy on Grundy for 225 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: six weeks. Decent position, but yeah, So very interested to 226 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: hear from that person if they want to get in contact. 227 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: But we do have a few questions from some people 228 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: who do have trades left, presumably or maybe some other 229 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: sort of strategy type questions as well. And I think 230 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: one of the interesting topics that's come up with a 231 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: couple of trades is you know what counts as a 232 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: luxury trade at this time? If you how many trades 233 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: do you have to have left to be able to 234 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: maybe get rid of someone who's really not performing the 235 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: way you would hope. And the two names that have 236 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: come up a couple of times are Shavee Bolton and 237 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Tom the Cooning. So shape Bolton's all the way down 238 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: to three hundred and eighty three, you think he's about 239 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: four twenty when people most people brought him in. 240 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 3: The good recommend bringing in Shae Bolton, thinking that was 241 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 3: a good idea last week, but didn't. I was very 242 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: annoyed last week a bit of yelling at the TV but. 243 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: And TDK four thirty four K, So I mean the 244 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: big question obviously he's like, who could you even get 245 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: for those guys? If you especially if you probably I 246 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: only want to use one trade. But any thoughts on 247 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: would would you know if you're owners of these guys, 248 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: do we just have to carry them for the rest 249 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: of the year or what position would you you know, 250 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: what would be the position you'd have to be? And 251 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: to think I can afford to do something about. 252 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: It well as an owner of shape Bolton. That's something 253 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm toying with this week where it's really annoying. He's 254 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 3: not particularly fun to be having. He's kind of he's 255 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: on my benchuck and loop him with someone else, with 256 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 3: Tom McCarthy at the minute, so or Tom McCarthy or 257 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: Caleb Daniel whoever else it is with DPP. So that 258 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: lessons the'll blow a little bit if you're able to 259 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: do that. If they're not on your field, then I 260 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 3: think there could be merit in holding a player like 261 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 3: Shae Bolton or Tom Deconey if they're if you've got covered. 262 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: Daconing is a bit trickier because he's a ruckman. We 263 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: don't have rock cover. I think if you've got more 264 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: than two trades, feel free to flick and possibly go 265 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: down to one trade in order to do that. With 266 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: deconing with Shay, if he's off your field, I think 267 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: you're okay holding if he's on your field, I don't 268 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 3: know what do you guys think, Like, I want to 269 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: get rid of him, but also should I should? 270 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 4: I spends as well, like what you're saying, what the 271 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: rest of your team looks like? 272 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: So just a team is pretty set. But yeah, at that. 273 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: Price, if you downgraded him, if they were going to 274 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 4: be on the bench anyway, and then you had enough 275 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: trades to upgrade somewhere. 276 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: Else, it ne'd have probably four trades left to be 277 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: able to have two to turn him into someone decent, 278 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: which yeah, not many people in that position. What about 279 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: TDK though, Chloe who, Yeah, if he's in Ruck, there's 280 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: really nowhere to go. Maybe Jordan Sweet if you think 281 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: you can keep up that kind of form. Me's around 282 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: the four hundred kmark. But yeah, there's not many other 283 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: options there. But if he's in Flex, maybe it does 284 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: give you a few more directions you can go in. 285 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: I think Flex definitely opens up some more opportunities, but 286 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 4: Jordan Sweet probably would be the one if you're willing 287 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: to go there. I mean, he at least has a 288 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: number one rock roll to his own, so I guess 289 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: he's reaping the rewards if that actual ruck position and 290 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: the points that it can bring you, whereas at the 291 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: moment Tom Deconing isn't and probably won't. 292 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 2: I mean, potentially Harry. 293 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 4: McKay comes back in this week, so I'm not really 294 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 4: quite sure what would happen with his role if that 295 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: was to occur. But I don't really necessarily see Pittnet 296 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 4: losing that number one position, right, Yeah, So I think 297 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: if you've got the trades, I probably agree with you. 298 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Patch, if you can flick in, I probably would. 299 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just I mean, his scores are not 300 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: coming back, are they. 301 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, they're gone. They're gone. So yeah. The annoying 302 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: thing with both of them is that they're still match winners, 303 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: and you could then they could both come out. 304 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: Especially if you trade him, like he's going to score 305 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: one forty one week completely out of nowhere. 306 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, it won't be a matchup against Richmond or 307 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: an easy match up. It'll be just a match winning 308 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: game where he goes into the middle of the last 309 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 3: quarter and wins it off his own boot. So that 310 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: is then also the problem where is if you trade 311 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: him to like a Max Hall and you don't brought 312 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: the cash, the Hall might fall off a cliff despite 313 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: their really good run, and Bolton might go on a hair. 314 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 4: So I guess with that as well, it's like he 315 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: plays for Fremantle and there you know, it's great they've 316 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: got that win on the weekend, but they're probably still 317 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: in the position where they need to keep trying to 318 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: win every single game, whereas you know someone like a 319 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: Max Hall or even a Tom Dakoning not in the 320 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: same position, and so if you were going to buck 321 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 4: someone in, I guess he's the one who probably needs 322 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 4: to keep producing those match winning performances. 323 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: Of the two, I think i'd probably trade t DK first. 324 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: Agreed. 325 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't know which they could do on a 326 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: given week. And we'll actually with some of the other 327 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: questions that have come in. There's a few names around 328 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: that sort of mid four hundreds range which will come up, which, 329 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: especially if TDK's in Flex might be people you could 330 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: look at Matt's asking do you trade or hold Rosie? 331 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: I guess I mean if he plays this week, obviously 332 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: you hold him. If he misses again, would you trade him? 333 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: Matt's got two trades left. I mean he can move 334 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: him to someone pretty good, like a lucky ash. But 335 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: I think with only two trades left, I think you're 336 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: still holding at you Yep, yep, We'll go through most 337 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: of these pretty quickly. I think. Another question about luxury 338 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: trade options for Whitfield. So Lockie Widfield is down to 339 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: around the four fifty k mark, so he's one of 340 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: these guys you could just get for deconing inflex. That'd 341 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: be a pretty good move if you've got so twenty 342 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: k in the bank. But question, would you trade out 343 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: kellerm Mills, who's nearly you know, he's just over the 344 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: four hundred k mark I think now, or Cobby mccurche, 345 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: who's now worth more than Whitfield. Why not either of 346 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: those guys if you had the trades, you know, a 347 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: straight swap to Locky Whitfield. Does that sound like a 348 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: good movie. 349 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: If you've got three trades for more? Maybe? I mean, like, 350 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: I think there's every chance they ill score the same 351 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: on the run home anyways, so I'd probably use the 352 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: luxury trade elsewhere on a Locky Neil or someone else 353 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: who's underperforming because you had a bad game on the weekend, 354 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: but will bounce back. Mills is what we expected him. 355 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: I think they're all kind of going fifty one hundred fifty. 356 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: One hundred Whitfield this weekend. I think Fantasy free Co 357 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: tweeted just before we came into the studio that James 358 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Jordan has tagged Locky Whitfield the last four games, the 359 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: last four battles of the Bridge. So yeah, maybe at 360 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: least wait one more week and see where you're at 361 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: next week. He is probably you're not going to get 362 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: too much more expensive. Another guy in that sort of 363 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: mid four hundreds range, Riley phil Thorpe is four hundred 364 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: and sixty two K. Someone asking thoughts on him as 365 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: a pot. I mean, he's a classic key forward. He's 366 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: got a five round average of ninety three, and that's 367 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: scores of sixty one one, forty six, eighty two. So 368 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: you're probably going to get similar for the run home 369 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: one of two really big spike games. But I think 370 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: i'd prefer, you know, we've got his name further at 371 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: least I think he's somewhere. Matt Kennedy's four fifty two, 372 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: but he's I know, Kloe's a big fan, you know, 373 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: more likely to give you a sort of nineties eighties 374 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: at least on a poor game. We did have that 375 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: one chocko a couple of weeks ago, but I'd probably 376 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: prefer that rather than a real roller coaster like Phil Thorpe. 377 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: But obviously the Crows are going pretty well and he 378 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: loved for him. 379 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: I think, especially if you already have a few of 380 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 4: the other sort of underperforming forwards, probably yes, it would 381 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 4: be great if your week could be saved by one 382 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: of those one forty nine sort of spike scores. But 383 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 4: at the same time, if you're already having the child 384 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 4: Warners of the world having a bit of an off 385 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: day and you Philthorp drops of sixty, it's probably not ideal. 386 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I would probably at that price point aim 387 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: for someone with a bit more consistency. But you know, 388 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 4: I can see why you would go there if you're 389 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: especially if you're trying to win head to head league matchups, 390 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 4: but I would say I would probably pass on him. 391 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: The other the other one that someone's asking you too, 392 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: which sort of similar kind of question asking about flex 393 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: if you sort of got that forty gay to spend 394 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Sweet or Jeremy Cameron, that would leave two trades. 395 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: So I think if you got two trades left, I'd 396 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: be happy to go ahead and pull the trigger. But 397 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: Cameron's another one. I was looking at similar price to 398 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: say a Mat Kennedy type, and you know I've still 399 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: got Horn Francis, so I'll be looking to move him 400 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: on this week with one of my two remaining trades. 401 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: I think, are you a Jess owner. 402 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: I'm am a Jess owner. I'm on the roller coaster. 403 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 3: I've had the up, I've had the down. 404 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, week him. You know, I suppose it's similar to 405 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: the filthor. But probably the thing I like about Jesu 406 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: is Geelong's run. So they play North this week at Marvel, 407 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: then Port Adelaide but that's at home in Geelong and 408 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: Essendon in Geelong. 409 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: Which I won't be watching that one. 410 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Sydney at the CEG is not a great matchup potentially, 411 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: but then Richmond at the G to finish the season. 412 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: I mean the only way is Geelong. You know, do 413 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: they rest some of these guys, but I mean they've 414 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: got the pre finals by so probably wouldn't rest him 415 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: in the. 416 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 3: Last reason he's in the Coleman race, which I think 417 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: helps Kim in the game a bit longer. But you know, 418 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: there's there is that risk that to get subbed out 419 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: or rested, which all thought won't have. But I don't know. 420 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: I I'm not trying to factor that in because it 421 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: just gets too complicated too quickly. But now I really 422 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: like Jess's run home. He will drop at least one 423 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: terrible score and it could be against la An Essendon 424 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: for all we know. 425 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: But I mean, the best twenty two is sure, That's 426 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: that's what. 427 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: It's for, is Yeah, exactly. If you've got him and 428 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: Sam Darcy and Jay Bolton and yeah, you know Chad 429 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: Warner drops a bad week, then you're going to have 430 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 3: a bad time. But also you've got half of them anyway, 431 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: So what's just I don't know, add the roller coaster, 432 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's hard to say generally, but I 433 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 3: think he's got a great run home and he's a 434 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 3: could go really really big. 435 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think I like him. But Kennedy 436 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: is the other one I definitely was had in my sights, 437 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: But I don't know if you're the most unbiased person 438 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: to ask you. Cloe's a messive met Kennedy fan. But 439 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: are you looking? I know you've probably two or three yea. 440 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 4: With my last trade, I was a bit stressed over 441 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: the week because he did perform very well, and I 442 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 4: thought I'd done all this mass to think if I 443 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: just hold horn Francis and then swap him to Kennedy. 444 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: I thought his break even was like one hundred and fifty. 445 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: I thought, oh, this will be fine, and then he 446 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: scored has kept going up and up. It was a 447 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: bit shaky, but I got there with about ten K 448 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: to spare. I'm not proud of it, but yes, I'm 449 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 4: down to zero trades, and after all this time, this 450 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 4: whole year, he's my final purchase. So yeah, I just 451 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: think he has that consistency. And I mean for me personally, 452 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: I've regretted not having him all year, so may as 453 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 4: well just get him in now and sail off into 454 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 4: the sunset with him in my side. 455 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: So his cbas had been a bit down the last 456 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and they really dropped two weeks ago 457 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: when he's called twenty or something, which was sort of crazy. 458 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: But then last week they were up a little bit, 459 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: not heaps, but and then he's still able to score 460 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: sort of one twenty and the Bulldogs in their last 461 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: five games they play isn't and. 462 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 3: This week, so I'll be watching that one either. 463 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: Who knows what will happened there. Then the Giants is 464 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: obviously not an easy game, but that's at Marvel. Then 465 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: they've got the D's West Coast at Marvel. Yeah, lots 466 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: of min with free oh also at Marvel, so i'd 467 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: have to check what his scores the log of Marble. 468 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: But obviously the Dogs generally play a bit better there. 469 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's not a bad run for him either, 470 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: So don't mind him at four fifty two. Kay, it's 471 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: nearly for questions. No, we're asking he's got three trades left. 472 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: Would you use two of them to upgrade Tom McCarthy 473 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: if you're playing him on field as one of your 474 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: sort of best twenty two to go down to one. 475 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 3: I would wait one more week, Yeah, I'd wait, especially 476 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: if you're looking at league, see your finals matchups, see 477 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: what you can do there. I'd wait one more week. 478 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 3: If you can get him to Whitfield next week, that's huge. 479 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, don't mind that. And last 480 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: question all of asked should I do this trade, and 481 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: it was Tom McCarthy, as we just spoke about Angus 482 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: Clark and Harry Rowson, So just sort of cashing in 483 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: everybody who's got some money on the head for Lea 484 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: McMahon Ben Jepson, So a couple of ninety nine k 485 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: guys and that leaves him just enough money to get 486 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: Eryl Goulden and down to twenty down to two trades, 487 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: so it's basically all those guys for Errol Gordon. 488 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 4: And that would be his twenty third Yeah, so exactly fact. 489 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the idea of boosting in this economy 490 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: is incredible. 491 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 1: Even picked up on that. 492 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 3: You're right, that's phenomenal. I like the idea of doing 493 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: upgrade Gordon might not be the one I pick. 494 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: I did look around that price or in German there's 495 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: not a whole lot, to be honest. 496 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: But also you can hold the cash because you've still 497 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: got two trades left, so the cash isn't a bad idea. 498 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: Widfield and the guy I really wanted Sprook this week 499 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: and I've really looked out as a Shaye Bolton upgrade 500 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: is Jack Steele we've spoken about. You know, Sinclair's got 501 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 3: a great chance to He's great value if you don't 502 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: have hum made as fandomis pointed out, is the number 503 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: one option this week and Azaiwangan and Miller is incredible, 504 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 3: but we just ablised you can't get there. Jack Steel 505 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: four hundred and five hundred and thirty two k has 506 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: a three round average one hundred and seventeen. I wouldn't 507 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 3: back him in to keep that up for a whole season, 508 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 3: but for five weeks with a run of Melbourne North, 509 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: Melbourne Rich to Essendon and GWS. I'm really closely looking 510 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 3: at him this week and how much is it five 511 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two thousand dollars? 512 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 4: I was looking at him before when we were discussing 513 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: who we wanted to pick for our captains this week 514 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 4: because didn't quite work out for my captain recommendation last week. 515 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: But it still stands that Melbourne usually give up the 516 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: most points to midfielders, so there is always that in 517 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: terms of this week to keep in mind. So I 518 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 4: think ongoing he has been in some good form. 519 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: Do you sort of have this thing going of where 520 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: they might send a random tager to someone like a 521 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: Noel R. Anderson or Nick Decos. We've seen, you know, 522 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: give Ed langdon or Clariya tagging job or something like that. 523 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: But if you're going to take anybody to say, it's 524 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: probably not gonna be Jack Steelers. No, no, So I 525 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: think you're safe there. But that leads us nicely into 526 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Captains four and twenty and yeah, with limited trades, trying 527 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: to find ways to get edge against your opponent. Captains 528 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: obviously becomes super important, and there's some really good options 529 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: this week, so it was really hard to narrow it 530 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: down to I mean, we're talking about top three and 531 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: obviously you can only go with two if we're using 532 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: the VC loops. So who did you settle on? 533 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: Well, my number one captain option for this week was 534 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: Caleb Sarong versus the Eagles, so they are the second 535 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: easiest matchups for mids. And then these are some of 536 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 4: the recent scores that some mids have put. 537 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 2: Up against the Eagles. 538 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: So we've got Hopper with a one thirty nine, Taranto 539 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 4: one thirty six, Butters one fifty four, Wines one forty three, 540 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 4: Callahan one forty four, and Descos one thirty one. So 541 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: if Sarron can get near any of those, he'll definitely 542 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 4: take it. Obviously, Brayshaw could be a good option too, 543 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 4: but I'll back in Sarong as the form player and 544 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 4: then my second best captain option for this week, Zach 545 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,239 Speaker 4: Butter's in the showdown. He's scored a ton in all 546 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: of his last three against the Crows, so I would 547 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: back him in to produce another good score this week, 548 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 4: and then at number three Maxcorn versus the Saints. So 549 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 4: he had scored a one eighty in his second most 550 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: recent game in twenty twenty four against the Saints, and 551 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 4: he's seemed to finally be able to find a bit 552 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: of super coach form again after a few lower scoring weeks, 553 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 4: so I would back him in. 554 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: As twenty two. 555 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 4: Week Yes against Yeah, yeah, actually the second half was amazing. 556 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: Rucks and then yeah, one hundred and eight points or 557 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: over in the second half, so yeah, you found some 558 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: form then, as you say, And yeah, I was looking 559 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: up some numbers on him sort of in terms of 560 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: those difficulty of matchups. Sin killed a sort of mid 561 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: table in terms of Rucks, but just in the last 562 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: few weeks. These are some of the Rock scores against 563 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: rowand Marshall grundy one fifty four, Lloyd Meek scored one 564 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: hundred and forty. They played the Dockers and Darcy and 565 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: Jackson both tunned up and Darcy Cameron scored one hundred 566 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: and fifty six against them. 567 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: So since Max Heath has come in as well, so maybe. 568 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the last two weeks, so that might have 569 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: been taken things as well. So yeah, so some pretty 570 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: good ruck numbers against the Saints. So, I mean the 571 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: other thing this week is the timing of the games 572 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: is some weird ones like Gorn plays on Sunday virtually 573 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: at the same time as the Collingwood Richmond game. So 574 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: if you're interested in Nick Dacos, which I am definitely 575 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: so I have gone number three on my list, Nick 576 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: Dacos at number two. Just we went watched him last 577 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: weekend live and he was incredible, taking kick in at 578 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: one end and then kicking goals with you at the other, 579 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, forty plus disposals and the dock has sort 580 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: of tried a few things to you know, but he 581 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: was moving around every just through whatever he liked. Richmond 582 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: interestingly have used Jack Ross in the last couple of weeks. 583 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: He went on to Harley Reid after halftime and sort 584 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: of shut him down at the weekend. So he's an 585 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: option that maybe goes to Dacos. But yeah, I mean, 586 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: we know how good he is. He scored one hundred 587 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: and forty seven last time they played the Tigers five 588 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: round average one thirty four. You know, maybe a little 589 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: three more brand Low votes in the back of his mind. 590 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's a great option on the Sunday. 591 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: But I think we have to VC Marcus Bontenpelli the 592 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: game that Patch will not be watching on Friday night, 593 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: and again we have two like sort of games happening 594 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: concurrently on the front. 595 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 3: We love that. 596 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: So Grundy's also playing on the Friday night, which makes 597 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: it a bit awkward. Yeah, he's got a mass up 598 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: against Briggs, who's you know, he should score, okay, and 599 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Grundy is just an insane form but 600 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the bond against the Bombers, and you 601 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: know we're talking about scores against you know, just over 602 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: the season, Essendon's sort of a mid middle of the 603 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: table matchup for mid field has been in the last 604 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,919 Speaker 1: two weeks only they've given up one hundred and fifty 605 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: to Tom Green, one hundred and thirty five to Tim Taranto, 606 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: and then you look all over the field. Name scored 607 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two, Tyler Young scored one hundred 608 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: and ten. So there's not a play scoring points against 609 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Essendon and Essenon's midfield. Last week, Zach Merritt was back 610 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: in there with the number one CBA play, but then 611 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: second was Dylan Shield. Sam Durham, you know, he's a 612 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: good hard worker who maybe can put on a bit 613 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: of defensive pressure. Then Jade Gresham got a lot of 614 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: center band section. Henry McGrath was in there and Archie Perkins, 615 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: who I heard you guys mentioning on the pod. 616 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: Oh yes, I are you an Apologyie Perkins, because he 617 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: won outscored the archy I recommended instead. And two I 618 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 3: also didn't realize he was one hundred and fifty k. 619 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 3: I just assumed he was mid L three hundreds. So 620 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 3: I do owe you an apology for that. 621 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: So anyway, the point being, yeah, I mean if you've 622 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: got Bailey Day or Tim English, they could also score 623 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: a really big so yeah, yeah, that's right, could kick 624 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: twelve for VC shout. 625 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: I think honestly, Edwrich, if you've got a bulldog, I 626 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: reckon should V see him? Ignore the Thursday night game 627 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 3: and just VC whatever bulldog you've got. 628 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. So yeah, they're my top three. 629 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: Who do you like? 630 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: Patch? My I'm gonna go a little bit rogue because 631 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 3: I haven't really done any preparations. So these are yeah, 632 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: if you feel a little bit spicy and want to 633 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 3: do something a little bit crazy. Number one is somebody 634 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: I was going to talk about the trade ins, but 635 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: I forgot Hayden Young scored one point six points per 636 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: minute on his first game back, did start as the subs. 637 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 3: We only scored the fifty five, but that fifty five 638 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 3: was in a bit over a quarter against the Magpies. 639 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,439 Speaker 3: He's got the Eagles this week. I imagine they'll let 640 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: him loose in the midfield for a full game. One 641 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: point six points minutes for a full game is a 642 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 3: lot of points. So he's a very rogue option there. 643 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: Memory you got for that kick inside fifty to Jackson? 644 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 3: He would have Yeah, there was a lot of scaling 645 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 3: involved in that point for minute. 646 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: Was just sorry. We deserved any every point there because 647 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: he's like they won the game for it basically. 648 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they look like a different side with him 649 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: on the field as well, so I think that's I 650 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: think they'll get the ball in his hands there. Jeremy 651 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 3: Cameron as a as a shout against North Melbourne. I'm 652 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: not sure Tom Pink and Griffin Log will be doing 653 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: too much to stop him if he's in the mood 654 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: and the number one is not quite rogue. But Nazaiwagan 655 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 3: and Miller against Melbourne playing, he's going all right, he's playing, 656 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: He's fine. He's a pretty good footballer. I guess playing 657 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: full time midfield against the D's. We've spoken about the 658 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: D's giving up a lot of points to midfielders. If 659 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: A plays a half back, he'd still score a million 660 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 3: points anyway. So he's currently my captain ahead of Dekos. 661 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: But I might chicken out Jack Rosspector. Yeah, I don't 662 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: mind that at all. 663 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: So that's a wrap this week. Thank you, Patch, thank 664 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: you Chloe, thank you, thanks everybody for JUNI in Remember 665 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: to join myself and Matt Forrest on the Live Team 666 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: Show six point thirty pm on Thursdays. Now you get 667 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: all the teams obviously as they happen, and some late 668 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: trade advice, and we do have to give Foz a 669 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: shout out. He did mention Jordan's sweet last week as 670 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: a cheaper sort of ruck trade possibility if you were 671 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: looking that way, So yeah, deserves a pat on the 672 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: back for that one. I think thirty people or something 673 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: traded him in, so they would have had a very, 674 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: very enjoyable weekend. But hopefully we'll catch you then. Otherwise, 675 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: happy trading and we'll talk you into