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Speaker 2: Yes, the feeling around the AFL changes significantly when the

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Speaker 2: rounds start with a two round twenty is upon us

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Speaker 2: with a light at the end of a tunnel now clear.

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Speaker 2: For some, that's limping to the finish line. For others,

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Speaker 2: it's the start of a golden opportunity for that is

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Speaker 2: within reach. As September looms large and here at the

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Speaker 2: Fox Footy Podcast, we're sprinting to the finish line with

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Speaker 2: much more left in the tank. Hello, Welcome to this

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Speaker 2: week's episode. Ben Waterworth with you as his pessimistic Crows

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Speaker 2: observer Will Fakner. Hello there, Fork Aarthener and Ben. Pleasure

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Speaker 2: to be here again, also joining us because Max is

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Speaker 2: off this week. Maxi's off for the next two weeks

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Speaker 2: as well. It's quite jarring not having Max on the podcast,

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Speaker 2: but filling in the just working Melbourne based Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: news reporter and a man who appears in podcasts or

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Speaker 3: Hello, Drew, Yes, hello and welcome. Nice to be with

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Speaker 3: you on a Fox Footy podcast. And can I just

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Speaker 3: say the highlight of my podcasting Fox Footy career in

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Speaker 3: the bunker downstairs, its been a long time ago. Adam

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Speaker 3: Balwyn called Basher Hooley a crab. I do remember that,

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Speaker 3: and Basha Houley went on to arguably deserve enormous metal

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Speaker 4: How far into Bach's career when we're.

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Speaker 3: Talking was twenty sixteen when Richmond Astralia before Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: so he was only twenty games away from nearly winning

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Speaker 2: We have, we've b here a while, just quickly before

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Speaker 2: it from a run home powerrankings perspective. If Stephen may

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Speaker 2: to the tribunal, so the d's actually don't have to

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Speaker 2: fork out the ten thousand dollars to challenge at themselves.

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Speaker 2: And Ralphie said last night and on the Couch that

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Speaker 2: Laura Kane and Michael Christian had been saying that in

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Speaker 2: the most difficult case to adjudicate, that the Stephen may

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Speaker 2: bump what's your hunch drew heading into the hearing which

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Speaker 3: So this is good that we've freed up an extra

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Speaker 3: he gets off because I just don't think there's any

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Speaker 3: And I think it's actually cruel for us to penalize

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Speaker 3: Early on is a not identical incidents. Everyone is different

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Speaker 3: Look, I understand why the AFL want to mitigate against

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Speaker 3: Adelaide over They average ninety eight points a game, is

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Speaker 2: It's eerily similar to twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Trying to think of a man who plays with chest

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable that he was clearly like the third or

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Speaker 4: So cheap the way they got him as well, you know,

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Speaker 4: seeing someone in the big stage. I just see a stat.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to say on Vos. Yeah, the fact

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Speaker 4: See man, who do you think you are? I am?

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Speaker 3: Gold Coast very disappointing against the Crows. Of course, how

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Speaker 2: For you guys, it was a yeah, it was a chunk.

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Speaker 4: The first time in that history as well, which is

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they they wouldn't want and I don't think

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Speaker 4: They're on their last straw. The one thing I will

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Speaker 3: May have been a Sydney thunder all about thirteen situations, yes,

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Speaker 3: Hawks will come good. And just because the Dogs don't

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Speaker 2: The Dogs are in trouble. It looks like four because

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Speaker 2: they have Essenon coming up and a blockbuster Friday night,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, big concerns like they have the list, don't they like?

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Speaker 4: As Drew said, they haven't been thumps. They they've taken

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with Mike Sheen's take last night and

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. For the fact that I still

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Speaker 3: Just at the other end of the ladder, Drew, I

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Speaker 2: Richmond thumped West Coast on the weekend. Richmond kicked over

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So West Coast actually started quite well, didn't get

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Speaker 4: I have to ask you, Drew, I couldn't believe. I

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Speaker 2: Because Matt Clarke was sort of hurried into he didn't

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Speaker 3: And I think that's that's a reasonable argument to say

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Speaker 3: It's one of our experienced players. Good in a good

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Speaker 3: just feels off. Whereas Richmond is the exact opposite. They've

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Speaker 3: got them in the right spots and then they've got

435
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Speaker 3: all this young talent and all of a sudden they're

436
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Speaker 3: off and away and they've won five games and they're

437
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Speaker 3: rebuilds like supercharged. West Coast just look like they're flagging.

438
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Speaker 4: So one more thing, So where does this sit like

439
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Speaker 4: right now, that loss after Richard on the weekend, Where

440
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Speaker 4: does it sit for you as a West Coast fan?

441
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like you're more backwards than you have

442
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Speaker 4: been at any point in recent recent history? Or is

443
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Speaker 4: it sort of you still haven't, like, what's the optimistic

444
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Speaker 4: lens here and where does that sit on the weekend?

445
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Speaker 4: In the grand scheme of things.

446
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Speaker 3: Nothing gets lower than the one ninety seven point loss

447
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Speaker 3: or whatever or whatever it was. But again, that was

448
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Speaker 3: the cover and there was a period, there was a

449
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Speaker 3: period of time where there was like a lot of

450
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Speaker 3: one hundred point losses sort of on the back of

451
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Speaker 3: each other. So you can't get lower than then the

452
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Speaker 3: read possible re signing news, I think is everyone like

453
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a boost the two plus nine

454
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Speaker 3: or you know, whatever it's going to be. But yeah,

455
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Speaker 3: I mean from a West Coast fan perspective, and I

456
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Speaker 3: think I can speak for a broad majority. They want

457
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Speaker 3: to see effort, young players play. Season can't end quickly enough,

458
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Speaker 3: and then let's get to the draft and let's see

459
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Speaker 3: what we can do with the potential.

460
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Speaker 2: Two beautiful segue because tomorrow on Foxfooty dot com today

461
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Speaker 2: but that is a Wednesday morning, the top thirty draft

462
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 2: power rankings will come out. What type of players, Drew

463
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Speaker 2: would you like to see West Coast get? So it's

464
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Speaker 2: all signs pointing to them having pick one and likely

465
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Speaker 2: pick two. Considering Oscar Allen hasn't re signed it. It

466
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Speaker 2: seems that like he's destined for Brisbane on a decent deal,

467
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Speaker 2: which would hand them ban one compensation. Therefore pick two.

468
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Speaker 2: So the first two picks in the draft, what type

469
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Speaker 2: of players would you? Well, I suppose, but when you're

470
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Speaker 2: at that early as well, you're normally taking just best available.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So if West Coast said came out the start

472
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Speaker 3: of the period and said, with the keeping one and

473
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Speaker 3: two and we're taking the two best players, yep, then

474
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Speaker 3: I would be okay with So I think sort of

475
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Speaker 3: Willem dur has been will thrown around as that guy

476
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Speaker 3: Brendan think Brennan got up. Okay, so you're the you're

477
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Speaker 3: the draft expert, not me so, but my guess would

478
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Speaker 3: be that West will have the best player available and

479
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Speaker 3: probably best midfield are available. Yeah, and then there has

480
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Speaker 3: been some talk that they would trade pick two to

481
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Speaker 3: try and maybe get one of the young w a guys.

482
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Speaker 3: Is it Rodriguez. Rodriguez has been there.

483
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Speaker 2: I think tomorrow I've I've got Jacob Farrow, who is

484
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Speaker 2: a Jordan one of the eight centement. It's a bit

485
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Speaker 2: bit smaller, but a Jordan Dawson like defender who has

486
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Speaker 2: been sort of thrown into the midfield a little bit.

487
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Speaker 2: But I speaking the scouts in recent days, they would

488
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Speaker 2: be very surprised. Now if Jacob Farroh is not the

489
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Speaker 2: first WA player taken.

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Speaker 3: In the draft, and where does he sit in the

491
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Speaker 3: I've got him fifteen in the rankings. He's well ahead

492
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Speaker 3: of Rodriguez.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got Rodriguez in early twenties, and then I've

494
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Speaker 2: got a play called Sam Swaddling in between those.

495
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Speaker 3: Two who play. So West Coast of drafts had probably

496
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Speaker 3: forty WA guys over the last seven years or whatever,

497
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Speaker 3: and almost all of them have sucked. So my advice

498
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Speaker 3: to West Coast would be, don't worry about the passport,

499
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Speaker 3: just take the best guys are available. But there is

500
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Speaker 3: an argument for maybe three good players in the top

501
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: fifteen is better than two, but depending on depth of draft,

502
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: so maybe taking the best tools available to it that

503
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: are available is a good move. And then they've got

504
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Speaker 3: Hawthorne's future first. Maybe that gets your Farroh, So perhaps

505
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Speaker 3: that's the way that they go. Just quickly, I want

506
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Speaker 3: to throw this to you guys about West Coast. So

507
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Speaker 3: this is turning to the next podcast. I Apologe. So

508
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Speaker 3: there's been talk of West Coast needing experience midfielder to

509
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Speaker 3: go with Harley. Tim Kelly doesn't seem to be that

510
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Speaker 3: guy Elliot Yo. We don't know about his body but he,

511
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Speaker 3: like Reid has missed Yo as like the bodyguard is there?

512
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Speaker 3: Like people talking about like Jack Steele and like is there?

513
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Speaker 3: Do you think that's there's merit to the Eagles spending

514
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Speaker 3: some draft capital to get someone who can stand next

515
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Speaker 3: to Read and opposition teams actually have to go. If

516
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Speaker 3: we don't look after this guy, he will hurt us.

517
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Speaker 3: Or we tag Read and accept this other player is

518
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Speaker 3: going to do. Would Jack Steel go to West Coast?

519
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Speaker 4: I don't know what level of interest there would be

520
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Speaker 4: from different clubs. I think on everything that Jack Steele

521
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Speaker 4: is a good chance to leave. I think the end

522
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Speaker 4: of the yeah contracts to tweeny twenty seven, that's been

523
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Speaker 4: something that's sort of been boiling away for a couple

524
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Speaker 4: of months now, and then the clubs that would suit him,

525
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Speaker 4: I think West Coast would be right up there. Would

526
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Speaker 4: he want to move is a completely different question which

527
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Speaker 4: I can't answer.

528
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Speaker 3: But he could earn one point two fits the.

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Speaker 4: Bill, fits the Bill and totally agree with what you're saying.

530
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Speaker 4: I think also like to go back as well, like

531
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Speaker 4: missing you know, and Sheed. Obviously he's now retired, but

532
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Speaker 4: those two veterans in the midfield that Richmond might have

533
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Speaker 4: equivalents to in their side makes for a hard comparison.

534
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Speaker 4: But yeah, West Coast should be in the market for

535
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Speaker 4: Jack Steel again. Where that goes I don't know, but

536
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Speaker 4: it certainly wouldn't surprise me if you see Jack still

537
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Speaker 4: playing in a different club next year. In terms of

538
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: other veteran midfielders on the market, I don't Matt Crouch

539
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Speaker 4: like he's out a contract to Adelaide, massive Matt Crouch

540
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Speaker 4: fan myself, Yes you are, but they just where Adelaide

541
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Speaker 4: sits right now. He probably had a pretty poor timing,

542
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: unfortunate timing with his hip injury. I think you had

543
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Speaker 4: like twenty seven and the goal on the samf on

544
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Speaker 4: the weekend on limbs of minutes. But someone like him

545
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Speaker 4: I think also just someone that can burn you and

546
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Speaker 4: get the ball in the hands of the West Coast

547
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 4: boys a lot and potentially let Red Doo his thing. Yeah,

548
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Speaker 4: that sort of prototype inside midfielder.

549
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Speaker 2: That is the end of segment one here on the

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Speaker 2: Nest Sorry Fox Footy podcast, It's now time for one

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Speaker 2: of our favorite segments.

552
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Speaker 1: And now on the Fox Footy Podcast, another strong edition

553
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Speaker 1: of Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast.

554
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Speaker 2: Drew dusting off the Fair or Fast cobwebs here, but

555
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Speaker 2: we'll start with the fork speaking of trade and sin Kilda.

556
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Speaker 2: Will Nasaia wangone Miller won't be at sin Kilda in

557
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. Fair or Fast Fair, that's a very

558
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Speaker 2: quick fair.

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Speaker 4: Very quick fair. I think we were speaking of fortnit

560
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Speaker 4: Ago about the j Clark ten day rules, yes, which

561
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Speaker 4: was put on first crack, but basically saying the ten

562
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Speaker 4: days that proceeded about a fortnight ago. If the SIA

563
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Speaker 4: hadn't signed between now and then, alarm bells are going off.

564
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Speaker 4: As I also said last week, there's been more important

565
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 4: things had to deal with in the last week with

566
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Speaker 4: some horrible racist comments. But I think we're at the

567
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Speaker 4: point now where NASIRA is heavily leaning towards South Australia

568
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Speaker 4: and I think port Adelaida in the box seats.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of him essentially playing almost as

570
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Speaker 2: a full time midfielder against Gelong and playing extremely well.

571
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Speaker 4: Incredible covered that game, and I will say I think

572
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Speaker 4: the sia's outside game is exceptional. I did have a

573
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Speaker 4: couple of doubts as to how well someone of his

574
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Speaker 4: body and just his mate would go in the midfield role.

575
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Speaker 4: But totally blitz that just ran around. You wouldn't think

576
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Speaker 4: you had an opponent, and I'm sure he did because

577
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Speaker 4: Jeelongs midfield ping Drew Jones.

578
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: Did ross hand Nasiah the keys as a last ditch

579
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Speaker 3: hail Mary to get him to resign.

580
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Speaker 4: Yes, in the exact same way that Paul did the

581
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Speaker 4: same thing with Miles Bergberg and it worked funny well, yes,

582
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Speaker 4: but yes looked very good doing it.

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Speaker 2: Drew Jack Sylvanney joining Collingwood would be the most unromantic

584
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Speaker 2: footy prospect imaginable, fair or fast.

585
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say fast because to me, a name

586
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Speaker 3: like Sylvanney being at a big Melbourne club that is romance.

587
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Speaker 3: But outside of Carlton, you know what, Carlton have not

588
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Speaker 3: been shooting the lights out in any way, shape or

589
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Speaker 3: form very fairst. So if he went to Collingwood and

590
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Speaker 3: came fifth in their best and fairest and want a flag,

591
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Speaker 3: I think that would be actually quite funny.

592
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Speaker 4: Are you concerned? Do you think he'll go?

593
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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't think so.

594
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Speaker 2: But I was told doing the ring around that that

595
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Speaker 2: that male has been doing the rounds for a while.

596
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Speaker 2: The Jack Sylvanne's a Collingwood stuff, So I think it's

597
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Speaker 2: I think it's real. Whether he actually entertains it, I'm

598
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: not sure. Carlton and have been It took a bit

599
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Speaker 2: of convincing, but Carlton have shown some faith towards Jack

600
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Speaker 2: and resign him on sort of the shorter term deals,

601
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Speaker 2: and I think we'll reward him with a longer deal

602
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Speaker 2: considering the form that he has shown. But from a

603
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Speaker 2: Collingwood perspective, it makes a lot of sense. It feels,

604
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Speaker 2: it feels a need.

605
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Speaker 3: So what's the spot that he takes? Like? Who who's

606
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: currently filling that role? Sorry Christian without notice as the

607
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: third defender? So I tried briefly Guinness in that role.

608
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Speaker 2: They did yeah, which and he unfortunately went down with injury.

609
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Speaker 2: Is it a It's not obviously a long long term

610
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Speaker 2: for post Jeremy Howe, but that's in the when he

611
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Speaker 2: eventually retires.

612
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Speaker 3: So four year deal on the table from Carlton for Jack.

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Speaker 2: I think so yes, yeah, well I don't want will

614
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: clubs are wasting their time trying to lure Joe Danaher.

615
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Speaker 3: Out of retirement, fair or far, that's fair.

616
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Speaker 4: I think if we rewind three or four weeks ago,

617
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Speaker 4: Fagan was asked about it, and I think Fagan would

618
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Speaker 4: have a pretty good idea to where Joe sits on this,

619
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Speaker 4: and he gave it zero point one percent chance and

620
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Speaker 4: that was coming back to Brisbane. So yeah, I think

621
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Speaker 4: probably a waste of time. Maybe I'm proven wrong. Maybe

622
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Speaker 4: for the good of the game, I hope I'm proven wrong.

623
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Speaker 2: Came after Mitch Cleary's report on seven last Night drew

624
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Speaker 2: that Melbourne have apparently reached out, specifically Simon Goodwin in

625
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Speaker 2: an attempt to try and lure Joe Danaher out of retirement,

626
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Speaker 2: and how mich framed it was it is the sign

627
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Speaker 2: of how much Melbourne really wants to keep position forward

628
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Speaker 2: at the moment.

629
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Speaker 3: Would you just wait a little longer, let him get

630
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Speaker 3: the itch back a bit more like this? They've gone

631
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: too early, false start pack.

632
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: Darcy Moore should have been suspended for his need to

633
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Speaker 2: the back of Josh Tracy.

634
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Speaker 3: Fair or fast. I'm gonna say fast. It's a fine.

635
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Speaker 3: It's a misconduct fine, and it was so easy for

636
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Speaker 3: Michael Christian to do it. And I can see why they.

637
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: I can see how they've framed the reasoning to not

638
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: find him. But from my perspective, he knew exactly what

639
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 3: he's doing and that should be a fine.

640
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was described as a non football acts by

641
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: a lot of pundits. Actually on Monday night, it was

642
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: surprised that it wasn't even sighted. Fork Freemantle has a

643
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: right to feel disrespected by Craig McCrae's postgame comments, fair

644
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: or fast, The comments being Freeman will play a good

645
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: brand of footy when they're up and going, isn't don't they?

646
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: Maybe they should play it a bit more of that.

647
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 4: Just feels a bit passive, doesn't it a little passive?

648
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Speaker 4: I think they have a right to be disrespected, And

649
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Speaker 4: I think Craig's probably a little bit upset that he

650
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Speaker 4: lost by a point on his home deck. In situation

651
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 4: they would normally win themselves, but it was an excellent win. Yeah,

652
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 4: I'd be offended. Offended, Drew, are you offended? Despite being

653
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: an Eagles fan?

654
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: I thot that was interesting by Craig. No Frio should

655
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: be offended. And yeah, how good was that kick by

656
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: Bailey Banfield to Hayden Young middle of the ground, a

657
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: Hayden Young like kid toy? That was awesome? No, that

658
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 3: was that was passive aggressive love Craig.

659
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: But just just take the loss, Okay, okay, last one pack.

660
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: A purpose built afl W boutique stadium would be long

661
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: over due, fair or fast.

662
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: I think that's fair. I think this is an absolutely

663
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: fantastic idea. As a fan of Premier league like the

664
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: English Premier League, a boutique stadium is just so bloody good.

665
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: And the idea of making a little smaller, making the

666
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: game a bit perhaps a bit more more goals, more

667
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: like viewer friendly. I think it's just such a great

668
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 3: idea and it gives the girls and the women, the

669
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: players something that's theirs, like icon Park is like, is

670
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: that the logical spot? Well, yes, because where do you

671
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: find something that's close to the city where you can

672
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: build a new stadium. But icon Park was presented as

673
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: the home of the afl W and it has amazing

674
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 3: history within our game, but it's not really theirs. They've

675
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: just made a little home there, temporary home for them.

676
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: To have a purpose built sat him just for them.

677
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: I think it shows a real commitment to the competition,

678
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: which the AFL have already shown, but it just gives

679
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: them something that's really theirs.

680
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: He surprised that not much has been obviously that the

681
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: Carlton Club facilities are very good out there, but from

682
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: a spectator point of view, when you go to watch

683
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: a game of AFLW or or an under eighteen's game

684
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: in recent times, or there's been preseason matches at Icon Pact,

685
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: it is not the most fan friendly experience to go

686
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: out there. And what is surprised nothing has been still

687
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: being done. It has been sort of lingering for two decades.

688
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: Basically now huge financial investment, isn't it, And maybe perhaps

689
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: like COVID, came at the wrong time in terms of

690
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: money being taken out of the game and then reallocated.

691
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: But going to any suburban ground you have to accept

692
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: that when you go there's a romance, but that there's

693
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: also drawbacks in terms of the facilities. It's going to

694
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: gather around and going to nord Norwood amazing viewing experience,

695
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: but if you want to grab a cold beverage like

696
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 3: you're going to be waiting like half an hour, so

697
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: there's checks and balances here, But yeah, I think if

698
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: we could get something that stay of the art, just

699
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: for the gours for it. Did you put up with

700
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: the thirty minute wait? Esc you N? I left the

701
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: left the venue, there's a pub right across the road,

702
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: consumed a beverage and then walked back into the game

703
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: bath hotel. I don't know, but it was a serious,

704
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: serious venue, right, excellent?

705
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: You two can rave about try it out next year.

706
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: Southutralian Establishments off air. Just before we get to the

707
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 2: mail bag, you were at the Greg Swan press conference

708
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 2: on Monday? Sure or certainly listened or watched Greg Swan's

709
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: press conference on Monday. He's had his first day as

710
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: the new head of AFL Footy operations, a game length

711
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: high on the agenda, to the point where he might

712
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: try and even make a few tweaks to bring the

713
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: game length down. This year four games are averaging one

714
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven minutes per game, up from one

715
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty one in twenty twenty one. I think

716
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: it was what do you think should be at the

717
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: top of his priority list? Greeks one's priority list.

718
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 3: Drew as.

719
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 2: As he takes on this new role and said he

720
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: had forty three pages of stuff for requests from clubs.

721
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: Okay, top of the agenda, subn see you later. I

722
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: have no interest in seeing young players start debuts as subs.

723
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: It makes it half from a fantasy perspective as well.

724
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: The fantasy community hate this. They hate it with a passion.

725
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: The coaches don't like it either. I think, wasn't it

726
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: like fifteen of the eighteen coaches were against it or

727
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: something like that for the Straw poll.

728
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 4: So Michell seem to think it was sixteen to two

729
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 4: and three sixteen last night.

730
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, so not. Coaches don't always get their way. From

731
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 3: my perspective and from most people's perspective, I think, let's

732
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: just cam this up. The idea of a player then

733
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: having to run like five k's on the ground, it

734
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: is an odd look.

735
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: Isn't it that you and I have done the press

736
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: box shifts and we're typing away transcribing them.

737
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 3: Is and James twenty six laps of the mcg SO

738
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: shout out to James's forging a nice career, Richmond. So yeah,

739
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 3: Subra gone. So people will get sick of me talking

740
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: about this anyone who follows me on Twitter. Wild Card weekend,

741
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: just give it to me. Seven, eight, nine, two wild

742
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: card games. It's in the weekend off, So the top

743
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: six getting advantage just to get the week off. And

744
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: you know this this season, you get the drama of

745
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: the jostling for positions. Then there's one team that's fighting

746
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: for tenth spot. Is it the Swans? Who can you

747
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: know maintain this run? Blah blah blah, And then just

748
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,720
Speaker 3: it's a top six and there's four wild card spots,

749
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: so just forget the top eight. Yeah, and I think

750
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 3: that creates excitement. I also have some interest in splitting

751
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: up the comp into the different conferences after who plays

752
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: each other once, But that's that's another conversation. And then

753
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: my third one is find a way to get game

754
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: time down, but it's not at the expense of the ruckmen.

755
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: So at the moment they're talking about speeding everything up

756
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: and if the ruckman don't get to the right contest

757
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: and too bad, Like, let's not kill off the ruckmen,

758
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 3: like it's an interesting part of the game, suspe specific position,

759
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: specific type of athlete, So let's still find a way

760
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 3: to look after them without having the game time, Brodie Grugny.

761
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: Owners need those sixty odd points. You need a safe

762
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: captain that's right. Anything to add their fork.

763
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: Maybe the lines at norwd Oval during gather around or

764
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: trying to get a beverage, maybe that might help. Drew

765
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: also actually.

766
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: Thought you were talking about the wing lines because it

767
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: was soccer field you're talking about.

768
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: You talked about.

769
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: I thought that's what that's what you would The wings

770
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: are so skinny.

771
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 4: Was like, geez, these are just small boundaries at all.

772
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: What I'm going to get a beer at the road.

773
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: I know, not much to add. I think the head

774
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 4: on most of them. I wouldn't mind seeing cayleb Daniel

775
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 4: going to hit out like that could be fun.

776
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: Like so this is like in os kick when they

777
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: allocate too players the same height.

778
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that'd be good.

779
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: So what do we see on the bounce that that

780
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: was talked about get rid of today? Yeah, you've got

781
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 3: to get rid of it. Premonial.

782
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think I understand the argument in

783
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: terms of it might deter rockwork and another cross for rucks.

784
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: But I come from it from an umpire's perspective, because

785
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: considering that the nature and the speed of the game

786
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: and four umpires has helped, but the bounce is actually

787
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: quite a debilitating skill physically to do in the modern

788
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: day game. I know so many umpires that have struggled

789
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: with back injuries because mainly because of the bounce in

790
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: the past. And if trying to keep umpires in the

791
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: game is a struggle, I think one getting rid of

792
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: the bounce would Yeah, one help physically, but to the

793
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: bounds is a bloody hard skill to do, and sometimes

794
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: the best some of them might be cracking decision makers,

795
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: have excellent fitness, but they actually can't get on the

796
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: AFL is because they can't bounce. So that would open

797
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: up even more opportunities that we get some of the

798
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: best whistleblowers actually into the AFL.

799
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 4: That's the strongess I've sent you on for a while. Yeah,

800
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: I've been very strong. I've been very strong on the

801
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: getting rid of the bounce for a long time. That's

802
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 4: good or back in the game. Is that what you're

803
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: in sinuation?

804
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: I didn't think of that. Gosh razer comes in on

805
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: a Tuesday night and lights up the building.

806
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: It is a good man. So what I would love

807
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: is if either someone from the umpiring department or even

808
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 3: Greek Swan. If he could just give us the breakdown

809
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: and say there's twenty six umpires right now who we

810
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: believe are AFL standard but are currently not on our

811
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: roster because of the lack of ability to bounds. I'd

812
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: love to hear a different experience explanation of out it.

813
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: But it's a great argument as to why we should

814
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: get rid of it. It's now time to open up

815
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: the mail bag on the.

816
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Fox Woody podcast. It's time to open up the mail bag.

817
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: Have a question for the panel. Tweet us every Monday

818
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: morning at Fox Footy.

819
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: A few questions have come in via x. Firstly from

820
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Speaker 2: Ben moss holland Will Bailely Smith. It's interesting because he

821
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: just raised him Drew will Badly Smith be in the

822
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 2: All Australian team this year quick part one.

823
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: Question he'll be in the squad? In the squad will

824
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: he being the twenty two? If we stop the season

825
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: right now, he would be in the team in my view,

826
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: but he could play himself out of the team in

827
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Speaker 3: the last six.

828
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 2: Games and then one for you fourk if Nasaiwang and

829
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Speaker 2: A Miller keeps playing midfield for the next five weeks.

830
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 2: With similar output. What position does he get in the

831
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Speaker 2: All Australian team.

832
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 4: Oh, great question. Ah, it's probably half back, just because

833
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: it's the easiest place to put slack. I think the

834
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 4: ullustranslations often look for someone that can put outside the

835
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: midfield to fill up the half backs and the half forwards,

836
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: most of the half forwards. But because I pick him up,

837
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 4: it's a great example. Yes, yeah, I think you've seen

838
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: one a half back. I actually wouldn't be mad if

839
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: you see him on a half forward either. I know

840
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: he's not a traditional but he's a genuine utility, which

841
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: I think it's more marked for that. I just hate

842
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: seeing there was a season where Zach Merrett played four

843
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 4: percent wing and sat on the wing all the half

844
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: forward I can't do that.

845
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: Well, who's the other half back playing?

846
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: Oh it was Bailey Dale earlier on in the year.

847
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

848
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: I mean Shane Riola's injury has been good. He's gotten

849
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: better the last six weeks. There's a period where him

850
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 4: and Whitfield, in my opinion, we're getting a lot of

851
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 4: the ball, but they weren't doing a whole lot with it.

852
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: But that was more Giants issue than I think then personally.

853
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: John Nobles had a very god year as well.

854
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 3: Yes, good, he'll be in the forty four.

855
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: Question from Mitch Robinson. I don't think it's a former

856
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 2: Carlton and Brisbane player, but nonetheless, do you think he's

857
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: asking about Brisbane though? Do you think Kitty Coleman and

858
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 2: Dane Zorco in the same back line possessed enough defensive

859
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: accountability to hold up?

860
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 4: This has Drew's DNA written all over it, both because

861
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: very prominent AFL fantasy players.

862
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: We don't care about playing defense fantasy. So I just

863
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: think danz Oco is a fantastic footballer and a great

864
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 3: team man. So I think if he needs to slightly adjust,

865
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: he's been cotton. If he wants to he needs to

866
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: slightly adjust his role, I'm sure he will do that.

867
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: Whether he's capable of playing defense, that I don't know.

868
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: Kitty Coleman is a very talented footballer. I think the

869
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: window for him is closing on the season and it

870
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: needs to happen soon for him, otherwise he'll risk the

871
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: Lions society that they don't want to shake up their

872
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: current back six. All right.

873
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: Question from Jason X on X regarding Harley Reid him

874
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: being criticized for acting too aggressively. Is him being harassed

875
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: by the opposition each week and abused by opposing fans

876
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: not really taken into account enough. Anyone will act out

877
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: a little if they're being ongoingly bullied in.

878
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 4: Life has drew all over it again.

879
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: I was expecting you to answer that, So, is Heim

880
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: being harassed by the opposition each week and abused by

881
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: opposing fans not really taken into account enough.

882
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: I mean, the courage of Harley Reid is quite utterly extensive, ridiculous.

883
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 3: He's had a really good six weeks yeap, And yeah,

884
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean we talked about before like he's got no

885
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: he's got no mates to look after him, so yeah,

886
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: I mean I.

887
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: Think that's starting to get recognized as well, like the

888
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: lack of Elliott no know, not being there, the hole

889
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: that's left and then Tim Kelly's subpart form.

890
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: So Harley Reid will always be a combative, competitive player

891
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 3: and he clearly at the moment as a twenty year old,

892
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: is not totally able to control his emotions on the

893
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: footy field. So my guess is that you will always

894
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 3: see an element of this from Harleey, but he will

895
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: become more disciplined as he gets older.

896
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 4: It's more amplified on a losing team as well, right,

897
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: Like you're not going to have critics coming at you

898
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 4: after a ten goal win. You just see more of

899
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 4: it because they're losing more.

900
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 3: Yep.

901
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: All right, And last one from Wheell's mate Flagland Hills.

902
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm in Melbourne this weekend. Are any of the other

903
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: Fox Footy podcasts hosts able to join myself and the

904
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: Fork for a Sunday lunch and a few Beers's venue?

905
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: Thanks Locky, great question. True, I'm not so sure. I

906
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: know Locke's coming over this weekend. I think you will?

907
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: He be running here?

908
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: He actually is. He's here for ten k race on

909
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: Sunday morning Albert Park, is it I believe?

910
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 3: So?

911
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah? Cross country yes, yes, lucky runner to our thirty

912
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 4: maraths on time. I'm sure he will hate me saying,

913
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: but yes, he's over here for the weekend for a

914
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 4: race so excellent. Say don't I think Max probably won't

915
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: be there? Really better?

916
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: No?

917
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 4: Max in seventy.

918
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 3: Barley By the way, at the moment, it's not Max, Like,

919
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 3: can I just say the venue that I expect you

920
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: to go to? Perhaps corner of High Street and Williams.

921
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 4: You're thinking about Erica Hotels, Yeah, don't mind it there.

922
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: It just seems like it's got your finger prints.

923
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 4: All had DNA there, No London tavern, that sort of area.

924
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 4: Corners good. Yeah is Richmond Colin might be a shout someday.

925
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: Very niche Melbour an inner city reference there. Richmond and

926
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: Collings were paying playing for the Steve McKee Cup a

927
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: little bit later. We'll get to that game soon. Yes,

928
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: it's the Ruckman. We'll start with the tips and the

929
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: tips and the cups. Now, Hawthorne and Carlton on Thursday night,

930
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: but Daniel half a Cup up for grabs, hera pak

931
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: who wins extraordinary stuff.

932
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 3: The Blues will get out for Doc. But I think

933
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: Hawthorne in the game by three goals, all right, Concur

934
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 3: Concur Essenon and Bulldogs for the Mark Alvi Cup. Who

935
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 3: the hell is Mark Alvi?

936
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: Mark Alvi used to play for the Western Bulldogs and

937
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: for the Essendon Bombers, and he's I think quite prominent

938
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: on X.

939
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: I think I actually had the yeah yeah Dogs, Yeah

940
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: yeah Dogs, Giants and Swans. How about this?

941
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: So the two games on the Friday night so Essendon

942
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: Bulldogs starts at seven twenty and the Giants and the

943
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: Swan start at seven fifty, so you'll see I think

944
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: it'll quickly go to from five oh three to five

945
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 2: oh four for the last quarter, you'll see the Giants

946
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 2: and the Swans.

947
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 3: Interesting fix string. Jedlamb Cup up for grabs by the way, yes,

948
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 3: which could also be applied to a GWS against Carlton game.

949
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 3: Jed Lamb popped up on Twitter recently did he commented

950
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 3: on sorry? On Insta he commented on something and referenced

951
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 3: the fact that he got punched basically in the face

952
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: by Josha Hooley. Remember the podcast has come full sir,

953
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 3: So I'm tipping the GWS Giants.

954
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: Giants have to They have a pretty poor record against

955
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 4: Sydney of late. Interestingly, as I pinned in the team's

956
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 4: chat last night, Ben gs's last four games I played

957
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: against Sydney that they've won have been for a combined

958
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: margin of six points. So if Jeds wins, gonna be

959
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 4: a close thriller.

960
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Gold Coast and Brisbane for the Jared Brennan Cup one

961
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 2: Duke Jared Brennan.

962
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 3: Cup lines lines from Mantle and West Coast for the

963
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 3: Brendan Fuster Cup. Oh yes, the man from Gingin.

964
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: Rockman, wasn't he back in the day forward Brendan, Yes,

965
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Danian Metropolis for Stiff, as was Stiff Jiro and Hugh Dixon,

966
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 2: Greg Harding Stephen Giro.

967
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: Was he a top of player for the West Coast?

968
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: Played one game? Shout out to Aaron Black. Yes, the

969
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: school teacher Freemantle win depends how bad they want it,

970
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: but they could win this by twenty girls if they

971
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 3: really want it. Wow.

972
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 4: Okay, three ten.

973
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: Girls, North Melbourne and Geelong for the Cameron Thurly Cup.

974
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, very average football. Good afternoon game, yeah Geelong.

975
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: Geelong under the roof could get ugly. I don't know. Yeah.

976
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: North Richmond now going above North on the ladder, and

977
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 2: Richmond obviously has North Melbourne's pick as well, so looking

978
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 2: nice there for the Tigers.

979
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: Yes. The whitlock Yest Matt Witlady and Jack Whitlock went

980
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: to Port Adelaide, hopefully on the verge of debuting soon.

981
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: He might play in the game between the Adelaide Crows

982
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: and the Port Adelaide Power on Saturday night for the

983
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: brad Simes Up.

984
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 3: Yes, Matthew Matthew Bode was still in the discussion.

985
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Real Billy Frampton, Billy Frampton, Yes, points is now Collingwood, Yes.

986
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: Crows win.

987
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, Crows win. Every game that port played from

988
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: this point one in the season just feels like one

989
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 4: they could but should win.

990
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: Can't wait for Bergman v. Dawson good matchup to very

991
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 3: similar head.

992
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 4: Would you like to see them go head to head?

993
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: Not even just to run with roll?

994
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: I want I want head to head baby all Yeah,

995
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 2: Richmond and Collingwood for the Steve McKee Cupp could be

996
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: busy inner city establishments prior to the game, pre.

997
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: Post corner and London will be coming he foh, unbelievable

998
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: speaking of the London tavern out sidebar. So the North

999
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: Melbourne Football Club celebrated their one hundred years and they

1000
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: went to London and Tabor the next day. I've got

1001
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 3: the three to one. Have you inside word on best

1002
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: on podcast? Would you like me to just reveal or

1003
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: do you want to have like a guest each who

1004
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: might feature with Kingy amongst the three.

1005
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: I'd be happy with him in there.

1006
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he would feature

1007
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 3: in just about all of the top three voting for

1008
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: any sort of any premiership, any sort of football event.

1009
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: So he's just a norm Smith medallists got the three

1010
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: votes and I'm told in very good authority that he

1011
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: went back to back across the Thursday and the Friday night,

1012
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: and that is Shannon Shannon Grant right. Two votes Yes

1013
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: to a man who won the number eight No. Number

1014
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: twenty one Guernsey and versatile player, workman like Cory jer

1015
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 3: Cory Jones didn't play. He didn't play in the premiership though,

1016
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,479
Speaker 3: didn't he probably best known for sort of taking picking

1017
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: up for slack after the dark left. It's a half forward, yeah,

1018
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 3: and then move back late in his career, I want

1019
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: to say. And then one vote goes to a very

1020
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: handsome man who started at the Freemantle Football Club and

1021
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 3: that is Jess sink Oh, Jess Sinclair at the London.

1022
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: There's the three to one for North Melbourne. That's an

1023
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: excellent three. Colin would get the job done the.

1024
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: North Melbourne. They're good both current and former players. They

1025
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: grew to the London.

1026
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

1027
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have to think about this one too much,

1028
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 4: do you, Collinwood.

1029
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 2: I didn't have to think I didn't think Jess Simple

1030
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: it was gonna be in my bingo card today.

1031
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: But that's well. And you bring Drew Jones into the

1032
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 3: podcast that you didn't think you'll get.

1033
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: A strong third person reference to finish off for Saint

1034
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: Kilda and Melbourne complete the round for the Dean Kent Cup.

1035
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: Hink Kent's good. I'll go Sint Kilda and I think

1036
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: Nasiah and Cassiah Oh has a fantastic like shootout, like

1037
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: we're going to get two big games from two absolute jets.

1038
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: Sant Kilda as well. It scringe season at Moravian. Yeah,

1039
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 4: and Jesus we could see them go ahead to head

1040
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: it would.

1041
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 3: And how many references will there be too? Free from

1042
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: Desire good tune.

1043
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: Free from Nasaiah, Yes for all the above eight Drew,

1044
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: thanks for filling in for us at short notice, very

1045
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: very strong return.

1046
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 3: No, it was very nice to be with you. Thank

1047
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 3: you so much. Tune into AFL tonight, yes at five

1048
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: thirty on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesdays, and then it'll be

1049
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: in the half an hour before game time on Foxfooty

1050
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 3: and we go live from the ground in Melbourne. So

1051
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 3: that's like a big weekend Thursday Friday at Marvel both nights.

1052
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to say yes, yes, but don't forget about AFL.

1053
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 2: Tonight no twenty seven minutes of the sharpest AFL programming

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00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:35,640
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1055
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,840
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1056
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: twenty eight and a half on Thursdays and Friday.

1057
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 2: Oh excellently you are. Thank you for that information, Drew.

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