WEBVTT - Sharri | 11 July 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:10.840 Line sharing. Thanks Andrew and welcome to the show. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:11.040 Well. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.040 The New South Wales state government today confirmed an inquiry 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:17.880 will be held into greyhound racing. Leah Drake, who was 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.120 the inaugural Integrity Commissioner at the Law Enforcement Conduct Commission, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.079 also served on the Fair Work Commission. She's been appointed 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:29.240 Acting Commissioner of the New South Wales Greyhound Welfare and 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:32.240 Integrity Commission known as g WICK and she will leave 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.960 this independent inquiry. Racing Minister David Harris confirmed the inquiry 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.920 would look into greyhound welfare and the care of greyhounds 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.800 by the governing body Greyhound Racing New South Wales, including 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:49.680 adoption and rehoming programs, the body's processes and management including 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:54.280 procurement and recruitment practices. It's reporting an accuracy in relation 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:58.840 to greyhounds, and management's response to complaints or concerns about 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:03.800 organizational and workplace culture and conduct. Mister Harris said in 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:07.680 a statement that he was absolutely committed to ensuring a competitive, 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.200 responsible and sustainable greyhound racing industry with the highest standards 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:16.360 of animal sorry welfare and integrity. It's important that the 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.880 governing bodies and senior leadership of the racing codes meet 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.760 these standards. I take these various concerns about greyhound racing 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.200 New South Wales very seriously and this inquiry, using the 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.600 full investigative powers of g WICK, will conduct a thorough 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.160 and wide ranging review of all relevant issues. He also 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:35.959 had this to say at a press conference. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.720 What we need to do is let the inquiry look 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.160 into these issues and give recommendations back to the government 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.920 about how we can change the license conditions if necessary, 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:53.320 or implement improvements to ensure that we have best practice. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.280 No doubt many in the industry will be tonight worried 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.520 depending on the results of this inquiry that a ban 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:02.200 could well be back on the cards now. As I 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.760 said last night, the trigger for this is a letter 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.239 from the Greyhound Racing New South Wales former chief Vet, 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.440 which was sent to the governing body in June, claiming 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.320 that rehoming rates had been inflated, dogs were racing too much, 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:18.200 causing too many injuries, and that they were left to 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.640 live out their miserable post racing lives in industrial kennels 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.720 quote unquote. Some of the allegations, including those relating to 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:31.760 veterinary care, warranted further investigation. According to a response by 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.560 g Wick that was tabled in state parliament this week, 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:38.280 but it also dismissed others as wrong, including that hundreds 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.240 of dog deaths had been hidden. The chief executive of 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.840 Greyhound Racing New South Wales also resigned this week. Now, 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:49.000 while this investigation may focus on the governing body rather itself, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:53.000 rather than the entire industry, here's what David Harris said 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.079 were in the terms of reference. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.200 The accuracy and reporting by Greyhound Racing New South Wales 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.600 in relation to Gris greyhounds and whether that reporting represents 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.880 the true state of the greyhound racing industry, including the 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:10.839 welfare of greyhounds and the state of related programs under 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.880 Greyhound Racing New South Wales Control Awareness and Oversight. 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.120 That's despite Gwick already dismissing concerns about things like death 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.440 numbers being wrong. And of course, if the investigation were 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.639 to find that the governing body had covered things up, 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.680 that would tend to suggest problems in the industry at 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.080 large that needed covering up, which may well open the 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.040 door to trouble for the entire industry and not just 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.040 the governing body, and any sort of problems within the 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.000 post racing rehoming program could also be a trigger for 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:48.200 activists to pursue another ban. Whatever the inquiry uncovers, animal 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.880 activists will use what are most likely rare cases to 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.640 push for a ban on greyhound racing. And in a 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.960 six sort of way, these people actually want bad things 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:03.360 to happen. They can help bolster their argument. The industry 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:06.720 that I know has little to worry about in an inquiry, 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.000 and anyone who does not take their responsibility towards their 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:14.800 animals seriously deserves to be named and shamed. Any kind 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.760 of mismanagement or misbehavior deserves to be exposed for the 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.560 good of the sport and the welfare of the animals. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.800 But you'd be foolish to think that activists with an 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:28.560 axe to grind will not try to hijack this inquiry. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.839 The Greens have a policy of banning all racing. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:32.560 Now. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.599 If this inquiry uncovers any mistreatment or shoddy practices among 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.520 a few bad apples, the Greens and their milk will 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.320 almost certainly use it to push for a ban. These 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.680 activists peddle the lie that horses and dogs are just 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.920 disposable machines for the profit of owners. But I can 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:53.239 assure you, as someone who owns both that I generally 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.080 spend much more than I make in prize money because 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:00.599 I love the sport and these marvelous athletic animals. As 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.599 to all the participants, I know they get into racing 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.719 because they love the sport and they love the animals. Now, yes, 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.800 there will always be bad apples, but there are bad 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.080 apples everywhere. You cannot, on the basis of their behavior, 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.480 besmirch an entire industry. That's what the activists will try 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:22.880 to do. Though New South Wales Premier Chris Mins yesterday 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.320 said that he would not ban greyhound racing and whatever 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.440 the results of this inquiry, he has to stick to 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:33.120 his guns. The one insurance policy against a ban is 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.839 that Mens isn't stupid and he'd well know, especially after 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.560 watching what happened to make Baird when he tried to 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.240 ban greyhound racing sorry in twenty sixteen, that a ban 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:47.080 would be electoral poison for labor in the regions. But 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.920 the noise will be loud and the activists will fight hard. Now, 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.320 like many involved in racing, I welcome an inquiry, but 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:58.320 we must be careful that it is used to improve 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.880 the industry and not turned into a witch hunt. As 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.200 I said last night, greyhound racing mightn't be as popular 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.239 as horse racing, but that makes it an easy target 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.919 for activists and an easy sacrificial lamb for governments that 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.120 want to shut them up. Sacrificing the dogs would open 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:23.440 a much, much bigger problem. Now, while we're on animals 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.200 and activists, I have to tell you the curious story 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.600 of Yarra Council in Melbourne, which probably would have to 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.040 be one of the worker's councils anywhere in the world 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.760 I reckon now. The council is this week unanimously voted 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.560 for a climate emergency plan that said we need to 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:43.640 decolonize the landscape and outdoor spaces by using traditional Aboriginal 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.840 land management practices, which would apparently bring the area back 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:52.760 from quote unquote the precipice of climate and ecological collapse. 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:58.000 The plan says this means prioritizing climate resilient indigenous and 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:02.799 native vegetation, including trees, grasses, and groundcovers, which will provide 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:07.760 suitable habitat for our native wildlife while minimizing resource intensive 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:13.680 maintenance practices. Simultaneously, decolonizing our outdoor spaces means ensuring that 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:18.440 the knowledge and practices of the Warujuri woi Warang are 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:23.600 embedded into land management. There you go, climate change solved 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.760 by Yarra Council. It also said that residents should act 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.440 on the climate emergency using public transport or walking or 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:36.320 riding a bike, consuming resources consciously whatever that means, and 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:40.000 move their banking and superannuation away from companies that invest 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.040 in fossil fuels. But here's the real silver bullet. The 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:50.440 council recommended that residents adopt a vegetarian diet. Yes, your 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.240 council is telling you what you should and shouldn't eat. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:57.840 And you'd expect then that Yarra Council had been leading 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.320 by example that they were all veo. So have a 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.960 guess what was served up to councilors and executive staff 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.960 before their meeting this week. Kinwa salad, perhaps maybe a 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:14.160 little mushroom risotto will No, it was roast beef. They 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.840 knocked down on roast beef and then walked into the 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.440 chamber to tell residents that they should be eating venjo 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:26.720 to save the planet. One rule for thee another for me. Now, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.360 they've generally offered beef, lamb or chicken dishes before their 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:33.520 meetings apparently so. Of course, the Herald's son asked the 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.680 council about this, and lo and behold, they came back 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.280 this afternoon and said that meat will be off the 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.200 menu from now on and councilors and staff will be 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:47.439 subjected to plant based meals. Only one wonders whether if 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:50.560 the Herald son hadn't asked that question, whether that would 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.720 have ever happened, they would have just kept eating the 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.079 beef and the chicken and the lamb. But I also 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:58.560 wonder how many people will actually rock up to these 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:05.000 pre meeting dinners from now on. Also tonight, as the 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.040 Prime Minister insists that gas projects are the key to 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:12.320 our transition to net zero, Labour's own energy consultation paper 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.760 has rejected the gas industry. Plus the ghost of Prime 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.720 Minister's past Malcolm Turbul, he resorts back to haunting his 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.040 former Liberal rivals, and one of them has hit back, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:27.040 and the Hollywood star slash mega Democrat funder who's turning 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.319 his back on Joe Biden like so many of them. Well, 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.600 the rise of the Muslim vote in the UK election 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.680 last week has stirred speculation that this will drip feed 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.600 into our elections here in Australia. On the first of July, 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.760 this group called the Muslim Vote was established, and it's 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.600 a group that, according to their website, is a movement 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.720 that is alone capable of forcing the current government into 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:54.200 minority government. Well, the Daily Telegraph exclusively revealed today that 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.880 a man named Mohammad Khanan is the sole director of 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.560 this group, a man who said he had no previous 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:04.760 experience in politics or political campaigns for that matter. Joining 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:08.480 me now to discuss his commentator Jason Morrison and the 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:14.560 Daily Telegraphs Federal Report political reporter, Sorry Angira barhard Waj Jason, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.360 I cannot believe that we have a situation here, of 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.480 course where and you've got this group funded by someone 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.880 who's never had an interest in politics before, sprung up 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:29.280 out of nowhere. They've worked out that maybe they've got 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:30.640 a bit of sway, now. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:31.520 Bit of sway. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.560 Look, they're a lobby group for the moment, but when 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:38.120 they become a political party, I'm looking forward to Labor 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.720 and the Coalition treating them like they've treated one nation forever, 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.440 because you've still got you Dimwitz and the Coalition that 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.679 want to put one nation last. Because it's such an 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:50.320 abhorrent political movement we can't deal with it. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:51.719 So you're going to deal with a. 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:56.079 Mob, are you, Labor Party Greens that represents, at its 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.720 most radical fringe, some of the most atrocious and disgusting 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.680 things that it is abc use with the Australian culture. 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.960 That's not to say all Muslim culture is, but there's 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.240 a fraction of it that is. And I find it 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.280 staggering that this is being treated as, oh, well, it's 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.800 just another group out there. They will not be representing 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.440 the moderate view. They will be representing the extremist view. 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.000 And if the view of one nation is it's always 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.800 been about extremists and things like that, then treat this 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.960 mob the same and watch them have absolutely no political 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:26.160 influence in Australia. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:26.960 But they won't. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.079 Labor will trade with them, the Greens will endorse them 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.800 and back them and be partners with them, and you'll 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.880 have this sort of bizarre situation emerging, as you have 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.640 seen in the UK at the moment, where you actually 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.280 do have a thorough block of people who vote a 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.440 particular way based on religious and ethnic lines, and that's 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:46.600 not a good thing in this country. 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.320 Yeah, and of course it may not all of them 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.040 may represent an extremist view and gear, but you know 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.280 you've got a significant block here that says they're going 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.560 to give it a serious go. How much of a 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.400 threat do you think is that it is really to 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.439 Labor seats in Western Sydney. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.920 Look, Caleb, I think a lot of this depends on 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.040 the timing of the election and also what happens in 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.480 Gaza between now and a potential election. There have been 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.319 suggestions we might have an election as early as later 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.160 this year, so that would really change things because, as 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.880 it's clear the story in the Telegraph today, this movement 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.440 is really in its infancy. We have not seen it 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.840 get anywhere near as organized as it was in the UK, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.680 so I think it's a bit of a case of 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.240 time will tell in terms of danger in a lot 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.320 of those Western Sydney seats. Labor sources have admitted to 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.080 me that Tony Burke's seat of Watson is one that 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.120 could be at risk. It does have a very high 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:47.480 Muslim population and people are there quite frustrated with Labour's response. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:51.080 But we do have a preference system that doesn't really 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.880 allow these movements to have the same impact as they 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:55.040 did in the UK. 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.480 Now and Gira. We talked about this on the show 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:01.000 last night, but you revealed yesterday the Daily Telegraph that 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.840 in the month of May this year you had more 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:07.520 than two thousand, three hundred asylum seekers that flew into 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.760 Australia and that's the most popular way for quote unquote 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.960 asylum seekers to get into the country. Now, that was 0:13:14.040 --> 0:13:18.240 the highest month since Albanizi took office two years ago. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.840 Is the government concerned about the levels at which they're 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.720 coming in, particularly given that I think it's eleven people 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.000 of the eighty odd thousand that have flown into this 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:29.120 country have actually left. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.320 Look, if they're not concerned, they really should be, because 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.880 this is an area where the Coalition has traditionally been 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.840 quite strong, and with an election coming up, it will 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.160 be an area that the Coalition and voters will be 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:47.520 watching closely. Now with two active wars around the world 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.319 right now, we can't really afford to have dodgy asylum 0:13:51.400 --> 0:13:54.000 seekers trying to get into the country when we also 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:57.040 have people coming by boat. We did have a report 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.959 today about people from coming by Indonesia and having boats 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.600 turned away. So I would like to say, and I 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.319 would hope that The Labor government is. 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:06.040 Concerned about this. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.559 They have put one hundred and sixty million dollars into 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.520 new programs to try and tackle this. But with the 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.439 numbers that we've been reporting in the Telegraph for a 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.360 little while and then again the month of May, it 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.840 doesn't seem like it's having an impact just yet. And 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.280 we've had twenty three hundred people come in May. That's 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.800 not that far off from the highest on record, which 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.560 was back in twenty eighteen, which was twenty eight hundred. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.240 So we're really heading into that direction where we could 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.680 be breaking an all time record. 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.680 And why wouldn't you give it a go, Jason, Why 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:36.680 not give it a go. They get in and no 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:37.680 one seems to get rid of them. 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.400 There's a good track record, particularly with the mob running 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:43.120 the country at the moment, given that the Immigration Minister 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.280 used to be an activist lawyer acting for this corner 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.840 of migrant in Australia. And I think this is the 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.600 problem with this issue in the minds of a lot 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.480 of Australians. They look at the grand total immigration intake 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.640 and even though you could argue from a policy perspective, 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.000 you shouldn't, a lot of Aussies are really frustrated with 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.720 what's going on in the country about how difficult life 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.440 is for them at the moment, a sense that their 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.000 government is not there for them at the second, and 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.040 to sort of see a little special treatment for a 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.960 little group here, you know, record immigration over here, and 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.960 you put all the things together and they become clouded 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.760 issues in the minds of a lot of people. And 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.440 I feel like saying, you know, this is a country. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.720 I pay my way here and I get real nothing back. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.720 And there is that undertone that is there. This is 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.400 going to be a big political issue for Labor, and 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:32.600 I think their reaction to that Telegraph story tells you plenty. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.920 They don't want to talk about it because they know 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.560 it's best not spoken about. Whereas once by a time, 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.320 Labor used to be the party that would say, yes, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.720 that's us, we let these people in here, damn good 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.920 are we. They're not saying that now because they know 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.040 that Australians at the second are really pissed off with 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.760 their government and their attitudes to immigration broadly speaking, and. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.800 They saw what happened last time, of course, when they 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.000 had an almost open border policy when it came to 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.120 both people in particular and it didn't end well for them. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.520 Now let's go to my favorite state of Victoria. Favorite 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.160 being a bit of an exaggeration, but their economy has 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:09.600 been absolutely destroyed, of course by successive leaders. Daniel Andrews 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:13.440 plunge the joint the economy into enormous step following COVID, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.680 and they cannot get out of that. I mean, you 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.480 look at the taxes that they're levying down there or 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.120 not income tax. That's the I wish we Actually this 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:22.520 is a different point. We should be able to give 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.480 income tax back to the states, but we'll get into 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.040 that discussion another day. Lamb tax is what I was 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:31.960 going for. But just inter Allen, Now, hundreds of government 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:36.960 infrastructure projects not totally unusual, but the blowouts on hundreds 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.240 of projects are going to go into millions and millions 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.120 of dollars over budget. Now, as I say, Angira, look, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.320 you kind of expect that of government projects, but for 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.440 a state that is so strapped for cash right now, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.680 the only person they can get it out of is 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.480 the taxpayer. And if you're a Victorian taxpayer right now, 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.240 you'd be like, get me out of here. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:01.600 Absolutely. 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:03.600 I mean, this is not the first time we've seen 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.439 cost blowouts with the Victorian government. We do know that 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.480 state premiers like Chris Minz and Jacinta Allen have been 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.760 lobbying CANBRA for more money for some of these infrastructure projects. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:17.919 I feel like a lot of these issues are not 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.639 going to go away anytime soon. I mean, the constraints 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.280 that we've seen in the construction industry are not going 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.679 to go away anytime soon. So Victoria's really going to 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:28.400 have to figure out a way to get their economy 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:30.760 in shape because these projects aren't going to pay for 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.280 themselves and there's only so much they can get out 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:34.080 of the Commonwealth. 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.399 Well, the most indebted jurisdiction in the country, and I 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:40.119 think Berg Capita they're actually one of the most indebted 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:41.560 in the world. I mean, that sort of tells you 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:42.679 where things are, doesn't it. 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:43.120 Now. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.160 An unexpected article in The New York Times today, Hollywood 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.480 star George Clooney has weighed in on the electoral shambles 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:54.800 in the US sorry he's urged President Biden to withdraw. 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.320 He wrote, the Joe Biden I was with three weeks 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:02.000 ago at a fundraiser was not the Joe big effing 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.680 deal Biden of twenty ten He wasn't even the Joe 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:09.639 Biden of twenty twenty. He was the same man we 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:12.080 all witnessed at the debate. We are not going to 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:16.119 win in November with this president. This isn't only my opinion. 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:16.840 This is the. 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:20.760 Opinion of every Senator and congress member and governor who 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:25.080 I have spoken with in private, every single one, irrespective 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.000 of what he or she is saying publicly. I mean, 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:32.600 he's lost all his friends in the world. I've done now, 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:34.240 the clooney factions. 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.560 Moved on him. He's done. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:36.880 It's a matter of time. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.040 Really. I mean, when you. 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.040 Start losing the celebrities that bring you the doshi in 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:43.840 because their presence and their endorsement means a lot to 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:48.880 the imbeciles who think that celebrities matter in the United States, 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.160 it's finished. And when I see that, I mean, if 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.560 those quotes are accurate, or the paraphrasing of them is 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.120 even slightly close to the. 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.400 Truth, that is damning. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.600 Because he's been up the shirt with Biden for so long, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.280 he has been so in the camp, and for him 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:08.920 to sort of be wavering is devastating. 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.160 Yeah, Oh, most definitely, Angira. It's hard to see from 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:17.040 here with so many people within the party, his mates, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.879 his donors, saying sorry, mister Biden, you're not up for 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.600 the job. For him to still be there in November 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.080 would be the most damaging thing he could do for 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.800 his own party, the Democrats. 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.880 I completely agree, it would be the most damaging thing 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.359 he can do for the Democrats and also for his 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:40.479 own political legacy. I mean, when you've got people, like 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.240 Jason said, some of your biggest backers starting to say 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.600 it's time to go. We really hope that the people 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.640 around him, his family and his friends are advising him 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.080 to listen. The Democrats have relied on celebrities in the 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.879 past for their campaign, and to have someone like George 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:59.280 Clooney put it in such simple and such blunt terms 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:01.719 really should be sending alarm bells. 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:04.440 I'm sure it is. Well, not that he's listening to them, 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:06.439 but I'm sure it's sending a live mappey to someone. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:07.800 I hope he doesn't listen to them. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.040 Wouldn't it be magnificent? It will be magnificent A way 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.040 to watch the way it all unfolds. Jason Morrison and 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.280 Yira Baradwaj, thank you so much for joining me tonight. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.520 Well as I'm sure you know. World leaders are in 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:23.399 Washington for NATO's seventy fifth annual Summit, and Ukraine is 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.680 one of the biggest topics being discussed. Joe Biden announced 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.080 that NATO would be committing five new strategic air defense 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.760 systems to Ukraine, and they've now brought China into the mix, 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:38.959 labeling it a decisive enabler of Russia's war against Ukraine. 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:43.440 NATO's Secretary General John Stoltenberg said that the message sent 0:20:43.520 --> 0:20:47.560 from NATO from this summit is very strong and very clear, 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.800 and we are clearly defining China's responsibility when it comes 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:56.280 to enabling Russia's war. NATO leaders urged China to cease 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:00.760 all material and political support to Russia's war. Joining me 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.840 now is Liberal MP Andrew Wallace, Andrew, thank you for 0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.080 joining me. Look, something tells me that China ain't going 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:09.600 to take too much notice of what NATO tells them. 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.359 Well, I mean, look, Caleb, thanks for having me on 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:14.720 the show. 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:20.399 But it's incredibly important that the world leaders, like leaders 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:25.439 from NATO, are pressing the case against China's involvement in 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:29.639 the Ukraine war. Now it is very clear that China 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:35.159 is acting as a decisive enabler in providing assistance to Ukraine, 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:40.760 both in military support and in also in their supply 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:45.960 chains for re ements. So that's a real concern and 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.960 it's something that NATO is very very clearly pushing back 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.040 on today. 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.719 Well they should be, but I suppose the question is 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:58.000 how much can you expect any of this to change. 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.040 China and Russia have been soling up to each other 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.639 for a long time, and as much as we or 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:08.800 the more that we rightly push back against Russia, it 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.879