WEBVTT - #2123 Creepy Smart Glasses - Patrick Bonello 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.360 Okay, it tell him it's it's Harps and Patrick. We 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:05.800 are Sands, Tiff, You and I am just going to 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:09.920 have to see how we go. Just us too, dummies, mate, Yeah, 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:10.840 we'll be fine. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:12.800 You know. Testosterone's pumping. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.720 Did you go get some? I'm glad you got some. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.640 Where'd you get it? Did you get it on the 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:21.360 black market or did you see the doc? 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:23.200 Really? 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.640 Do we have to go there already? No? I reckon. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.840 I actually think your testosterone levels would be probably above 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.120 average for your age because of your health, your healthy lifestyle, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:36.720 et cetera. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.519 Does that make a big difference, does it? 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:42.680 Oh? Of course? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.640 if you beat your body up, you know, drink lots 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.800 of booze, eat shit, don't exercise, you know, like literally 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.280 lifting weights or in your case, doing tai chi or 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:59.240 other kind of strength based stuff as well, increases testosterone production, 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.440 you know. So yeah, being sedentary apart from the fact 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.200 that it declines as men age and women as well, 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:12.080 because women have testosterone and small amounts. But yes, so, oh, 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:19.039 one hundred percent, like lifting weights increases test production and 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.200 blah blah blah and all of that. But there's a 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.520 lot of Yeah, it's a lot of things going on 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:28.360 in that kind of endocrime space around male and female 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:33.520 hormones and therapy. And it's for very a very long 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.200 time talking about and I've spoken about too much on 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.280 this show, but anything linked to testosterone and men is 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.320 essentially associated with the drug cheating scandals of the eighties 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.480 and nineties and everyone, like people don't understand that that 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:53.960 testosterone does not equal steroids, you know what I mean. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:59.040 And there's clinical applications we're talking about health and just 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.600 like there are for ester own and estrogen for women. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.240 But enough of that boring conversation. Do you still have 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:09.560 morning Wood? Patrick? That's that's my question. Do you still 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.120 periodically have that? This is a consult now everyone, you're welcome. 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:16.400 I feel like I'm damned if I do, if I 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.799 damned if I don't. By answering that question. 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.720 Well, do you know what's funny is like literally, but 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:25.320 literally a doctor will ask you whether or not like 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.440 I listen, have you heard of a speaking of tech? 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.560 Have you heard of a guy called Brian Johnson? No, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.760 this is true, Okay, now I haven't come. So here's 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.280 like this dude who spends two million dollars a. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.840 Year on reversing a Sorry, yes, of course I have. 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.400 Yeah. Yeah, So one of the things that he talks about, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.960 and it's not haha, giggle, giggle. You know, schoolboy smut 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:47.680 is like like with men, and this sounds funny, but 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.680 one of the indicators of health is literally how many 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:54.760 times and for how long a night men have an erection. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:03:00.920 And so in young, healthy males sometimes that happens somewhere 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.320 around two to three hours a night, and it's not 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.760 because they're sexually aroused, it's just what's happening in their body. 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.000 And so this is an indicator of and yes, it 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.280 sounds funny, but it's got to do with blood flow 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:16.680 and testosterone production and cell health and all of these things. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.480 Whereas yeah, like guys who are fifty or sixty who 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.240 can still do that or who still get you know, 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:28.079 without too much trouble, they can get an erection. Sorry everyone, 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:32.440 it's clinical. Yeah, it's a real indicator of health. And obviously, 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:36.600 you know, every second dude in Australia, if not more 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.080 past a certain age have a rectal dysfunction, which it's 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.680 all haha, who you know what it actually correlates really 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:49.440 strongly with overall well being. Just like when women's estrogen 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:54.840 and progesterone levels drop, it equates to, among other things, 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:59.920 perimenopause and menopause. And so there are these physiological consequences 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.560 on both sides of the endocrime scale. But because we're 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:09.360 so fucking stupid in our society at times where we 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.240 just all, you know, but if we snigger at it 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.560 or we think it's controversial. But if your hormones aren't working, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.160 including thyroid function and a bunch of other things, you're fucked. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.479 So that's why women go on HRT, and that's why 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.960 we try to get the endocrime system working well, because 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:32.680 if that's working well, you're literally winding back the clock biologically. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.240 At least now you eloquently pointed out or asked if 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.280 I had morning, would which was really lovely way of 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:40.920 putting it. Thanks, thank you very much for that. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:41.599 You're welcome. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.599 What I think I might do for the next two 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.640 weeks before our next is I'll keep a diary for you, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:52.559 Craig yep, yep, yep. I'll make take note. I can't 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:53.839 say that I do. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.640 You know what for for our seven male listeners that 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.040 we have because I don't know why, but women love you. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.120 So many women I love Patrick. I'm like, you know, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:04.880 he likes I love him. 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.640 I like too, but just not in that way. 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.520 That's probably why they like you. They feel safe. 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.560 Yeah you can, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, you. 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:18.120 Know, yes, go on. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.240 I want to keep onto this topic because I had 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.719 a very interesting little. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.440 Careful Yeah, I'm worried now. I want to keep on 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.120 the topic of erections because I had an interesting yet 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:29.440 go on. 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.920 Okay, So, over the age of fifty, males should get 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:39.040 PSA tests done, which is a prostate specific atogen. And so, 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.240 as you know, my twin brother had prostate cancer and 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.600 is now going through that journey. In a big concern 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.159 for me as well, obviously, because it increases the risk. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.880 If you're under the age of sixty, your siblings have 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:57.200 a higher risk of prostate cancer. And so I've been 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:02.520 tracking my PSAs and I did blood tests just recently 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.440 because I like to get on your blood tests, particularly 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:07.640 with my eating patterns and all that sort of stuff. 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.960 And what I've been researching, and this doesn't get told 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:15.560 very often, is that And again I'm trying to put 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.520 this delicately, but if you act on that morning wood. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.400 Do you hang a towel on it or something and 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:24.680 then stroll through the house. 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.080 That's the right, Yeah, because you've got to fall suddenly. 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:35.279 That can influence your pay levels levels within six hours, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.360 but up to twenty four to forty eight hours. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.680 Why are you doing this as you're he's holding out 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.360 his hands like you know when you caught a fish. Yeah, 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:47.320 go on, so say that again about the six hours 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:48.920 I was obsessed with your hands? 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.280 No, no, just PSA L I'm not going to sit 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.280 on my hands now, so I don't move there. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.400 That looks worse, Yeah, go worse. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:02.599 Yeah, evidently this in reading, you know, doing research into 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.880 two PSA levels because I'm obviously monitoring mine very closely. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.880 What can influence your PSAs is if you've if you've 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:17.360 had yeah, you know you've jacked op lated, thank you, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.560 weed off, ejaculated right within six hours, but up to 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.880 twenty four to forty eight hours. So I went monk 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.480 for the last week before I had my blood test, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.800 and my PINS dropped by about ten percent. 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.760 It dropped. So you're saying jacking off increases your PSA. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.880 Well, if it's just before you go for a blood test, Yeah, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.160 evidently because I got a GP friend of mine yesterday. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.800 We walk every week. I've got a few grints. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.160 Hang on, So what's the message? What's the And by 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.320 the way, remember everyone, this is not this is the 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.960 opposite of advice, So don't take any notice of what 0:07:54.640 --> 0:08:02.040 Patrick's jacking off regime really or any kind of medical 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.720 conclusions he draws from that. Now you've hit up the computer, Well, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:07.960 how I don't trust you. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:12.600 The effect of ejaculation on serum prostate specific antigen level 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.640 This is an article written in twenty thirteen from the 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:19.720 National Institute of Health. So evidently it's it's known that 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.840 that can impact your PSA levels, but. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.200 You haven't read out the rest. What's it say? The impact? 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:32.240 Okay, ejaculation contemporarily temporarily increase serum prostate specific andigen's PSA levels, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.199 typically by five to ten percent, with the particlar bike 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.160 lasting up to forty eight hours. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:43.480 Right, Well there you go. Yeah, so boys, Yeah, that's 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.920 that's a tricky one, isn't it. You do a cost 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:51.200 benefit analysis, You're like, how long is it elevated? Yeah? 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.240 And what are we talking about? Now? Hey, well, you 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:01.040 keep on keeping on. Thanks for eating a fourteen day 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:05.080 would diary. We'll call it the E MW Early Morning 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:05.920 Wood Diary. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.080 So Jake the PEG. What about you? 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:15.720 Hey, I've had an direction since the eighties for you. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.920 I don't all right now there you're embarrassed? 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.439 Is it hot in here? Is it hot in here? 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:31.880 Stop it? Yeah? Well, well, I'll also keep a diary 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:38.880 we compare. No, we won't everyone that's disgusting and for 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.720 the one listener that remains, For the one listener, what 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.600 is wrong with you? Why are you still here? Oh? God? 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.280 Do you know? We do this every time where we 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.800 talk about ship that's so unrelated, nothing to do with 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.960 what we're meant to be talking about. And then there's 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.760 this awkward, fucking segue. Let's talk about technology. 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.240 Wait a minute, let's talk about porn, men, because there 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.000 is a segment there is something that I want to 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.640 talk about and relate to porn, because if you happen 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:04.959 to be. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.280 I feel much better with that segue. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.400 Well, because if you wake up okay anywhere? 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.000 All right, all right, let's talk about porn. Do we 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:13.320 need to? 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.600 But all right, well, no, it's just in relation to 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.400 the government oversight and the fact that the Australian government 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:24.920 is now limiting access to social media for children under 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.640 the age of sixteen. They're also rolling out systems to 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.360 be able to verify age with a lot of the 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:36.440 major porn sites as well. That raises concerns and about 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.360 the oversight of how they're going to verify that you 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.520 are over a certain age. So, you know, for adults 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.520 wanting to access porn in Australia, now you will have 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:47.240 to prove your. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:50.240 Age, right, yeah, okay, And how do you do that? 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:52.880 Well, there's number of different ways that can do it. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.000 One will be literally using a scanner on your phone, 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:58.480 like the camera on your phone, to just take a 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:00.880 photograph of yourself and then it will use an algorithm 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.160 to to gauge whether or not you're old enough. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.319 That seems like then you're giving an image of yourself 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.800 to the fucking Internet, not that you know. I don't 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:16.680 know how porn works, but allegedly I don't. Yeah, let's 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:17.240 stop now. 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.240 Yeah, that was the only segue I could think of 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:23.960 in relation to our conversation, Craig, Can we talk about 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:24.520 something else? 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:30.520 Yeah? Fuck please? Please? Let's talk about another bloody app 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.640 from Patrick nearby Glasses. What does nearby Glasses by the way, 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:38.720 everyone Patrick sends me a list of talking points, we 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.760 generally don't get halfway through it. But tell me about 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.360 your bloody app. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.960 Well, there's lots of concerns at the moment with all 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.439 these smart glasses that are out and Meta, the company 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:52.959 that owns Facebook has teamed up with a few glasses 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.680 manufacturers and what you've got AI glasses that have cameras 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.520 in them. You can record, you can take photos, but 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:03.120 the eyeglasses can also see the world around them. And 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.080 we were chatting earlier about how you and how I 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.280 went to a concert in Melbourne this week and I 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:12.120 was with a blind friend of mine who has you know, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.120 who has some smart glasses, and we were just talking 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.079 about how useful they are for him to use those 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.920 to be able to describe what is visually in front 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.760 of him. So his wife bought them for him. Although 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:25.480 he's really good with a cane and he's got a 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.559 seeing eye dog, but he's been playing around with the 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:33.280 new smart glasses. But there are privacy concerns about somebody 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.720 walking around with cameras that are constantly recording or taking 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.320 in the scenery around them. So this guy came out 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.440 with an app called Nearby Glasses, and I tested it 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.320 and I downloaded it onto my phone. It's really cool 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.720 because when people use smart glasses, the glasses are basically 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.360 connecting to your phone and that's how they're getting the 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.439 information and how they're able to do all the amazing 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.839 things that they're doing. But evidently there's a certain frequency 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.240 range and without going into the technicals, effectively, this app 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:10.280 will let you know if someone in your vicinity is 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:14.280 dark glasses. Yeah, and potentially sporting. Yeah. I thought it 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:14.880 was really good. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:18.200 So now that is a good idea, Like, I think 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:22.360 that's a good that's a great like. Yeah. And also 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.920 I think I don't know why this jumped to mine, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:31.000 but I yes, I do. I was talking to one 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:36.199 of the ladies who works at the gym i' go 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.960 to and they were just talking about, you know, creeping 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.840 creepster dudes who come into the gym and do you 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.000 know what I mean, And it's like they're just it's 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.200 clear that, you know, the twenty percent of their reason 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.720 to be there as for training and eighty percent is 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:54.600 for other things. So like the idea of girls being 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.320 I don't really care so much. I don't want it, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.240 but it's not an issue. But yeah, like dudes being 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:04.520 able to film women and stuff just by putting on glasses, 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:09.400 that capacity should not be legal, like to be able 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:13.800 to just imagine you wearing those in the gym and 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.520 they're just filming everyone in the gym and then they 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.600 go home and download that and that's creepy as fuck. 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:24.240 Yeah, look, it's a real interesting one. As I said, 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.440 my blind friend has been using them, and you can 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.520 imagine for someone who's vision impaired, if you've got cameras 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:33.640 and smart glasses that are constantly looking at the world 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.240 around you, you could effectively go to the gym and 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.320 look at what the weights are that you've set, You 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.320 could describe the area. You could make enable people a 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.120 lot more by using this technology. But of course it's 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.840 like anything. It means that you know this. We're constantly 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.080 being surveiled, and the question is where is that data going, 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.920 who's monitoring it? And another concern is that meta at 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.760 the company that makes a lot of the software and 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:03.200 is powering the these smart glasses, they have oversight and 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.520 they use humans for oversights, so AI is looking at 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:10.280 what you're seeing, but they take snippets of the recordings 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.000 and they use humans to be able to cross check 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.560 and match with AI to help make AI more accurate. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.160 But these outsourced workers are now saying that they're capturing 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.520 people going to the toilet, having sex, looking at passwords 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.680 on their computer when they're typing stuff up. So the 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.240 problem is if you start wearing these and they're there 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.520 and they're part of your life all the time, everything 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.440 you see, potentially they see. And that's why I thought 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.280 this app is really good. It's a free app, and 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.240 what I liked about it as well is it's been 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:44.440 it's a guy who's kind of a Swiss psycho sociologist 0:15:44.720 --> 0:15:47.200 and he's a hobbyist coder, so's he's a bit of 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.240 a nerd, and he invented the app. But what's really 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:55.360 interesting is anytime you're wearing these smart glasses, they basically 0:15:55.840 --> 0:16:00.000 the app listens for a Bluetooth signal, and the Bluetooth 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.520 signal basically has these data packets that fly forward and 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.160 back to tell other devices what they are and what 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.440 they're doing. So the way, so your phone knows to 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.880 connect to the smart glasses because of the signal between them, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.640 and that's what this app is looking for because I've 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.480 got a VR headset, and my VR headset uses the 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.360 same sort of data packets. So as soon as I 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:26.200 turned the VR headset on, my phone pinged to tell 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:30.560 me that there was a recordable device or a smart 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.640 device that was being used within my vicinity, so I 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.880 could see that people would probably have them in the gym. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:37.400 You know, it's a free app. It's great. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.280 I thought it was fantastic. I wonder what you'd do 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.320 with that, though. Let's say you've got it on and 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:45.440 you're in the gym and at pings. What do you 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.720 do then? Do you go up to the person that 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.720 you because there might be ten people in the gym 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.080 with glasses on? Do you go up to the person 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.400 that you suspect and go e? Or do you just 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:59.160 avoid that? Like? It's good, Like I think it's a 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.720 great idea. And my question is and then what. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.040 Well, then you be you're more conscious of what you 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.720 say and do and how you present yourself, because the 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.080 thing is, if you're at a public place, for example, it's. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.440 No hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on? Why 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.760 the fuck do I need to be more conscious of 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.359 what I say and do and how I present myself? 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.080 Because some fucking idiots wearing PERV glasses. I shouldn't have 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:26.040 to adapt. They should fuck off, like you're no, no, no, 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.600 But if you're hang on, hang on, I know you're 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.959 a chatty kathy. Let me have a go, right, Like 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:36.240 if I have to change because some blokes wearing glasses, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.520 that's not right, Like they shouldn't control the dynamics of 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.720 that space. They shouldn't be allowed to wear those. If 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:49.200 it has the capacity to record people who haven't consented 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.520 to that, that I don't think that should be legal. 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.600 And because that is what's happening, because they're recording people 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.960 who have not consented to it, Like, how is that okay? 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.280 It's not okay, And that's my point. And gyms need 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.639 to have hard policies. So basically what you should be 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.680 doing is going to the person who owns the gym 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.920 and saying, well, maybe our policy should be anybody who 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.160 is accessing the gym is not allowed to use any 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.320 sort of recording device, and that you do. So I 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.320 think it's incumbent on the venue to start to enforce that, 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:20.840 because the thing is you don't want it to become 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.879 the Spanish inquisition either. Imagine if you suddenly, you know, 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.320 muscled up to some bloke and you find out, well, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.760 actually he's blind and he needs them, or they just 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:30.359 have verything. 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.160 I think that's going to be evident. I don't think 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:36.600 anyone's that fucking stupid you think. And I just say, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.520 my friend Tony Doherty of Doughty's Gyms, the world famous 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:45.440 Doughty Gyms, he he doesn't let people take because what's 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.680 probably not in the land, but in a lot of 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:52.680 gyms in Melbourne, people are constantly filming, constantly videoing and 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:56.119 even taking in many of them tripods, So they're setting 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:59.720 up try oh like a fucking studio. They're setting up 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.840 iPods and filming themselves, but obviously they're capturing everyone who's 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:09.399 in behind them, and he's just he's just he's like, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.119 fucks them off and he either kicks them out or 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.120 he just tells them they can't do it. So there's 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.440 no I don't know if there's Yeah, I think I'm 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.200 pretty sure there's no videoing in his gyms at all. 0:19:22.359 --> 0:19:25.280 So who won't be putting up with these glasses? Is 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:26.520 a big time good. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.919 On your tone? Yeah, the one thing that is the reality, unfortunately, 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.960 not unfortunately, but in Australia, if you are in a 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:36.080 public space, if you're walking down the street, if you're 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:40.160 at a local festival, it legal too. You can take 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.280 photographs of total strangers. It's creepy. I'm not saying that 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.040 it's a good thing, but there is no law to 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.920 say that you can't be filming or taking photos or 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:55.200 recording video space. But when you're in a venue where 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.480 there's a membership and you can control that, that's again 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.200 where I'd be pushing for the owners of the gyms, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.080 and that's what i'd be doing. I'd be approaching and saying, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.439 you know, all the gym attendant and say, I'm not 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.400 feeling comfortable as someone around here who's wearing the smart glasses. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.159 I wouldn't challenge someone directly. I would get one of 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.120 the attendants or the owners to challenge them. Yeah, good 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:16.679 luck with that. 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.320 Have you been in a gym lately? I want to 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.200 do two. So the next one I want to do 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:30.679 is which we've spoken about the potential impact of AI 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.919 on a lot of industries. I don't want to go 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.240 into AI much today other than this one, but I 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:37.359 find it interesting. So the third one on your list, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.560 so AI generated film at Trotfest twenty twenty six, which 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:46.840 is a kind of a film festival, sparks filmmaker backlash. 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:52.640 I mean, the inevitability of AI films with no actual 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:56.399 actors is a foregone conclusion. I don't know what the 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.320 timeline is. It's probably Oh, I think it has already happened. 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.480 Tell us about So trop Fest is pretty exciting because 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.760 the festival, it's an Australian festival that's launched some amazing 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:09.200 careers because it's been around for a long time, but 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.359 COVID kind of pulled the pin on it, so it 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:13.440 hasn't been around for six years. So they have trop 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.280 Fest this year and one of the finalists was a 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.800 film called Sid Confidential. I watched it before the show. 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:21.679 I just thought, I figured I'll have a bit of 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.680 a watch to see what I think of it. It 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:26.960 was one of those kind of detective noir kind of 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.200 semi cartoon three D cartoons, so oh yeah, it was 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:33.160 an ark and stormy night and I was yeah, yeah, 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:38.320 guys over there, look I watched it. 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.359 It was Can I just say that's why you and 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:41.280 I are not actors? 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:48.640 It was Yeah, it was very terrible. It was moderately entertaining. Visually, 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:53.000 I kept seeing AI glitches, like at one point the 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.640 guy goes to jump on a tram and it says 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:58.240 Sydney on the tram at the front of the tram, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.280 and then the frame flips and it says this garbled 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:05.280 junk or whatever. So there's little and it's fun to watch, 0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:08.159 even to look for all the mistakes. It was. It 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.800 was entertaining. But I think the big argument from all 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.959 the filmmakers who spend hundreds and hundreds of hours mapping 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.000 out stories and then filming and editing and doing all 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:22.000 the work they do because trop Fest is very high standard, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:24.160 and I think that's where people have, you know, things 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.400 have come unstuck. There should be a separate category for AI, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:27.919 and that's the way you get around it. 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:31.200