1 00:00:05,881 --> 00:00:13,241 Speaker 1: Apodjay Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy 2 00:00:13,281 --> 00:00:16,881 Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is about female empowerment. 3 00:00:16,441 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most 4 00:00:19,201 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,241 Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 7 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,761 Speaker 3: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:31,121 --> 00:00:34,441 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises. We've got quite 10 00:00:34,441 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: a cute episode today, but before we actually get into it, 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,881 Speaker 1: let's do our shares of the week. Yes, so mine 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: is just something I'm going to read out to all 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: of you that I think we all just need to 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,321 Speaker 1: hear a little bit more often. You are not a machine. 15 00:00:46,441 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: You're a soul who needs music, connection, sunsets, laughter, and 16 00:00:50,521 --> 00:00:53,681 Speaker 1: small pockets of joy. Prioritize them like your life depends 17 00:00:53,681 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: on it, because it does. Life isn't meant to be 18 00:00:55,881 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: a cycle of stress and survival. Pause, look up, Let 19 00:00:59,641 --> 00:01:02,361 Speaker 1: the sunset remind you you're here to live, not just hustle. 20 00:01:02,761 --> 00:01:04,521 Speaker 1: Life is not meant to be a big to do list. 21 00:01:04,561 --> 00:01:08,441 Speaker 1: It's a gift to walk slower, hug longer, laugh, louder 22 00:01:08,681 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: and love deeper. The clock may be ticking, but your 23 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: presence is timeless. We've been conditioned to believe that the 24 00:01:14,321 --> 00:01:19,201 Speaker 1: constant productivity equals worth, but humans weren't designed for endless output. 25 00:01:19,521 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: We need moments of wonder, connection, and rest, not as 26 00:01:22,441 --> 00:01:25,681 Speaker 1: rewards for hard work, but as essential ingredients for a 27 00:01:25,721 --> 00:01:29,041 Speaker 1: meaningful life. Isn't that so beautiful? It's so nice a 28 00:01:29,041 --> 00:01:30,881 Speaker 1: reminder I think we all need. I feel like we 29 00:01:30,961 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: need to hear that more often. Put it on our walls. Yeah, 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,041 Speaker 1: every day I've been kinder to ourselves. 31 00:01:36,161 --> 00:01:37,001 Speaker 3: It's so beautiful. 32 00:01:37,881 --> 00:01:40,881 Speaker 2: My share of the week is actually to do with 33 00:01:40,961 --> 00:01:43,641 Speaker 2: skin care. So I've been following this girl online who 34 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: talks about skin flooding, and basically what that is is 35 00:01:46,681 --> 00:01:49,441 Speaker 2: she just like hydrates her skin like crazy with like 36 00:01:49,521 --> 00:01:52,561 Speaker 2: Tona's and sprays and things like that before she does 37 00:01:52,601 --> 00:01:55,121 Speaker 2: her skin care. And she has like the Glossier skin 38 00:01:55,121 --> 00:01:57,841 Speaker 2: It's insane. There's this one product that I've been absolutely 39 00:01:57,921 --> 00:02:00,081 Speaker 2: obsessed with that I've already gone through three cans. 40 00:02:00,521 --> 00:02:01,481 Speaker 3: It's called grape water. 41 00:02:01,721 --> 00:02:02,561 Speaker 1: Yes life starting. 42 00:02:02,761 --> 00:02:04,241 Speaker 3: You know, it's really good. 43 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:06,161 Speaker 2: So I use it morning night and like you spray 44 00:02:06,161 --> 00:02:08,161 Speaker 2: it on your face. For like seven seconds, like the 45 00:02:08,201 --> 00:02:10,721 Speaker 2: fax gets quite wet. But it's from a brand called 46 00:02:10,761 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna butcher this colderly So it's c au 47 00:02:15,081 --> 00:02:17,961 Speaker 2: Da l i E and it's great border you can 48 00:02:18,001 --> 00:02:21,201 Speaker 2: buy it at Sephora. Honestly, hands down one of the 49 00:02:21,201 --> 00:02:22,241 Speaker 2: best products that I've used. 50 00:02:22,281 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: How cool. Alrighty, So today we're going to ask each 51 00:02:25,841 --> 00:02:29,041 Speaker 1: other ten hard questions. Well, it's a bit of it hard, 52 00:02:29,161 --> 00:02:32,881 Speaker 1: just rogue rogue, deep questions. I've obviously written mine to Tiana, 53 00:02:32,921 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: she's written hers to me, and we both don't know 54 00:02:34,841 --> 00:02:36,561 Speaker 1: what we're going to ask each other. Yes, so it's 55 00:02:36,561 --> 00:02:38,961 Speaker 1: almost like a bit of a mystery episode. But they're 56 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,401 Speaker 1: gonna be really deep and beautiful. I think it's going 57 00:02:40,481 --> 00:02:44,161 Speaker 1: to spark some awesome conversations. And if you like conversation cards, 58 00:02:44,441 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: could be cool questions that you could also write down 59 00:02:46,401 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: and do with your friends or your family. I love 60 00:02:49,281 --> 00:02:50,601 Speaker 1: a good conversation card path. 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,521 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is something that we do even when 62 00:02:52,561 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: we have little staycase, we are always you know, asking 63 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: each other deeper questions. So we thought, why not bring 64 00:02:57,121 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: it to the podcast and actually do it live? 65 00:02:58,721 --> 00:03:00,321 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, are you ready? I'll go first? 66 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:00,841 Speaker 2: Do it. 67 00:03:00,921 --> 00:03:01,321 Speaker 3: Let's go. 68 00:03:01,841 --> 00:03:03,401 Speaker 1: Was there a moment you wish I was there for 69 00:03:03,761 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: but I wasn't And what was it? And how do 70 00:03:06,321 --> 00:03:08,481 Speaker 1: you think it would have changed what had happened if 71 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: I was there for you? 72 00:03:09,481 --> 00:03:10,921 Speaker 3: Oh, that's a really good question. 73 00:03:12,441 --> 00:03:15,921 Speaker 2: The first thing that comes to mind is my friendship 74 00:03:15,921 --> 00:03:17,161 Speaker 2: breakdown with my last best friend. 75 00:03:17,841 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: I feel like I was really. 76 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,801 Speaker 2: Alone in that time and I didn't know how to 77 00:03:20,841 --> 00:03:23,401 Speaker 2: process what it was that I was feeling. I blamed 78 00:03:23,441 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: myself for that situation, and at that point in my life, 79 00:03:26,601 --> 00:03:30,361 Speaker 2: I was really deep in like taking overly taking responsibility, 80 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:32,881 Speaker 2: but to the point where it was unproductive, Like it 81 00:03:32,921 --> 00:03:35,921 Speaker 2: was Yeah, it was like I was really shaming myself, 82 00:03:36,041 --> 00:03:39,641 Speaker 2: making myself feel wrong, and like just punishing myself for 83 00:03:39,681 --> 00:03:42,441 Speaker 2: the experience basically. And something that you've taught me in 84 00:03:42,441 --> 00:03:45,681 Speaker 2: now friendship is you help me balance that out where 85 00:03:45,761 --> 00:03:49,521 Speaker 2: anytime I'm overly taking responsibility, you'd like, no, that's theirs, 86 00:03:49,881 --> 00:03:52,321 Speaker 2: give that to them and take responsibility for what's yours. 87 00:03:52,321 --> 00:03:54,201 Speaker 2: And you feel like you really helped balance me out 88 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:56,921 Speaker 2: in that. I think I would have really loved to 89 00:03:56,961 --> 00:04:00,201 Speaker 2: have your friendship and your love and just your support 90 00:04:00,761 --> 00:04:03,041 Speaker 2: in that time of my life because I feel like 91 00:04:03,081 --> 00:04:06,001 Speaker 2: I was abandoned for parts of myself that I already judged, 92 00:04:06,521 --> 00:04:08,121 Speaker 2: whereas like I don't feel that with you, like you 93 00:04:08,121 --> 00:04:11,041 Speaker 2: don't judge me for when I'm anxious or when anything 94 00:04:11,041 --> 00:04:12,841 Speaker 2: comes up for me, like you love me in my 95 00:04:13,041 --> 00:04:15,441 Speaker 2: entirety of who I am as a woman, And yeah, 96 00:04:15,481 --> 00:04:17,041 Speaker 2: I would have loved to have that then, because I 97 00:04:17,081 --> 00:04:18,681 Speaker 2: feel like it just would have helped me get through 98 00:04:18,681 --> 00:04:19,081 Speaker 2: it better. 99 00:04:19,241 --> 00:04:21,841 Speaker 1: Oh that's beautiful. Yeah, yeah, And I wish I could 100 00:04:21,841 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: have been there for that, because I think I would 101 00:04:23,081 --> 00:04:24,801 Speaker 1: have held you really well on that and reminded you 102 00:04:25,241 --> 00:04:27,161 Speaker 1: of who you are and that you are not too 103 00:04:27,241 --> 00:04:29,561 Speaker 1: much in those parts of yourself that she couldn't hold 104 00:04:29,561 --> 00:04:31,801 Speaker 1: that I could hold easily, which I do now. You know, 105 00:04:32,241 --> 00:04:35,041 Speaker 1: I just love you more for it, right I can. 106 00:04:35,721 --> 00:04:38,081 Speaker 2: What's one part of you that you are still learning 107 00:04:38,081 --> 00:04:38,601 Speaker 2: how to love? 108 00:04:39,521 --> 00:04:44,241 Speaker 1: Oh? I think my fiery side, like I love her 109 00:04:44,281 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: sometimes and sometimes I'm like, oh, turn it down. But 110 00:04:48,801 --> 00:04:51,361 Speaker 1: I think I've shamed myself for having a fiery side 111 00:04:51,401 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: before because it comes across to other people as aggressive, 112 00:04:54,841 --> 00:04:56,921 Speaker 1: and then it comes across to other people as really passionate. 113 00:04:57,921 --> 00:05:00,721 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to like find that middle ground of 114 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: loving that fire, because a coach once said this to me. 115 00:05:04,401 --> 00:05:06,881 Speaker 1: Without my fire, I wouldn't have done all the things 116 00:05:06,921 --> 00:05:09,601 Speaker 1: I've done. My fire is what leads, it's what spreads, 117 00:05:10,081 --> 00:05:12,361 Speaker 1: and it does big things, like when I'm on stage 118 00:05:12,361 --> 00:05:14,681 Speaker 1: in front of thousands of people, that is fire. Yeah, 119 00:05:14,681 --> 00:05:17,881 Speaker 1: that's not chill, that's you're getting shit done, your big 120 00:05:17,921 --> 00:05:21,681 Speaker 1: expanse of your bride. You're passionate, passionate. Yeah, you're spreading 121 00:05:21,681 --> 00:05:25,321 Speaker 1: like wildfire, like you're spreading your love, your excitement, your enthusiasm, 122 00:05:25,401 --> 00:05:27,921 Speaker 1: your lessons, your wisdom like that fire is beautiful. But yeah, 123 00:05:27,921 --> 00:05:30,721 Speaker 1: I think I've shamed myself for being fiery. Sometimes I 124 00:05:30,761 --> 00:05:34,241 Speaker 1: think I'm still on the path of Sometimes that it 125 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: kind of pops back in and I'm like, oh do 126 00:05:36,961 --> 00:05:37,361 Speaker 1: I love that? 127 00:05:37,401 --> 00:05:37,721 Speaker 3: Do I not? 128 00:05:38,281 --> 00:05:39,121 Speaker 1: Coulda done that better? 129 00:05:39,361 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 130 00:05:39,761 --> 00:05:41,041 Speaker 1: How can I love more of that? 131 00:05:41,481 --> 00:05:43,121 Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that part of me like old 132 00:05:43,161 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: cheeky stories coming up around the fiery part. 133 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,401 Speaker 1: So yeah, and being aggressive and what's the story that's 134 00:05:49,601 --> 00:05:53,081 Speaker 1: too much? It's not lovable. Yeah, it's not acceptable. People 135 00:05:53,081 --> 00:05:55,601 Speaker 1: will leave you for it, like the abandonment wound comes 136 00:05:55,641 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: into it. Yeah, scene is too much? Scene is not kind. Yeah, 137 00:05:59,561 --> 00:06:01,641 Speaker 1: a lot of perceptions of what other people may think 138 00:06:01,681 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: of me. You're having fire. 139 00:06:03,521 --> 00:06:05,361 Speaker 2: That's interesting what you said about some people see it 140 00:06:05,401 --> 00:06:07,721 Speaker 2: is aggressive and some seed is passionate. It really is 141 00:06:07,761 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: dependent on the receiver behave. 142 00:06:09,121 --> 00:06:09,801 Speaker 1: Where they're out. 143 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,241 Speaker 3: Yeah. 144 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,761 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love your firing, Stephanie. Having the alter ego 145 00:06:15,841 --> 00:06:18,001 Speaker 1: name has really helped me. And when I see fire 146 00:06:18,041 --> 00:06:20,801 Speaker 1: and other girls too, I'm like, fuck, yeah that means 147 00:06:20,801 --> 00:06:21,281 Speaker 1: something to you. 148 00:06:21,401 --> 00:06:22,041 Speaker 3: It's empowering. 149 00:06:22,201 --> 00:06:25,081 Speaker 1: It's lit up for a reason. Yeah, and bring that forward, 150 00:06:25,161 --> 00:06:27,521 Speaker 1: like why would you shut that down? So I'm like 151 00:06:27,681 --> 00:06:28,761 Speaker 1: when I get that to other one and I'm like, 152 00:06:28,761 --> 00:06:30,961 Speaker 1: why would I not give that to myself? But it's 153 00:06:30,961 --> 00:06:33,241 Speaker 1: still a work in progress, so fully there yet. 154 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's okay. 155 00:06:34,601 --> 00:06:37,201 Speaker 1: If no one was to ever judge you, what would 156 00:06:37,201 --> 00:06:39,921 Speaker 1: you do differently in your life? Like would you teach differently? 157 00:06:39,961 --> 00:06:42,641 Speaker 1: Would you show up differently? Would you talk differently? If 158 00:06:42,681 --> 00:06:43,881 Speaker 1: there's no judgments? 159 00:06:44,161 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: Oh that's a good question. 160 00:06:45,401 --> 00:06:46,961 Speaker 1: Steve asked me this question the other day. It's why 161 00:06:46,961 --> 00:06:47,921 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I want to ask you. 162 00:06:47,921 --> 00:06:48,961 Speaker 3: Can you repeat it for me, babe? 163 00:06:49,041 --> 00:06:51,681 Speaker 1: Yeah? If no one was to judge you on anything, 164 00:06:52,081 --> 00:06:55,001 Speaker 1: what would you do differently. I think I would show 165 00:06:55,041 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: more of my humor. That's cool. 166 00:06:57,761 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like in certain environments when I don't 167 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,641 Speaker 2: feel fully comfortable, I can be quite reserved when I 168 00:07:03,641 --> 00:07:06,201 Speaker 2: don't feel fully safe fully noon and like, I don't 169 00:07:06,241 --> 00:07:08,841 Speaker 2: think that's a bad thing, but I think even when 170 00:07:08,841 --> 00:07:10,641 Speaker 2: I show up on social media and things like that, 171 00:07:10,681 --> 00:07:14,881 Speaker 2: there's a whole side to me that is like big personality, silly, 172 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:19,041 Speaker 2: big personality, silly, funny, funny, sexual, Like I love humor. 173 00:07:19,041 --> 00:07:20,121 Speaker 3: I'm very playful. 174 00:07:21,801 --> 00:07:24,641 Speaker 2: I do. It's a very if I could label it, 175 00:07:24,641 --> 00:07:25,761 Speaker 2: it's a very cheeky energy. 176 00:07:25,841 --> 00:07:27,361 Speaker 3: It is very cheeky. 177 00:07:27,521 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: And I feel like I don't show enough of that side. 178 00:07:30,721 --> 00:07:33,041 Speaker 2: And I feel like sometimes in certain environments I have 179 00:07:33,081 --> 00:07:35,161 Speaker 2: to dim that down. I'm a little bit scared of 180 00:07:35,161 --> 00:07:37,641 Speaker 2: how people will receive that part of me. And also 181 00:07:37,721 --> 00:07:39,921 Speaker 2: in the past, that part of me has got me into. 182 00:07:39,761 --> 00:07:41,281 Speaker 3: Trouble, do you know what I mean. 183 00:07:41,441 --> 00:07:43,681 Speaker 2: So it's like sometimes it can be misconstrued. Sometimes it 184 00:07:43,721 --> 00:07:46,161 Speaker 2: can be taken the wrong way, or somebody doesn't take 185 00:07:46,161 --> 00:07:47,841 Speaker 2: a joke the right way, or they think I'm. 186 00:07:47,721 --> 00:07:49,281 Speaker 3: Flirting with them or like, you know. 187 00:07:49,561 --> 00:07:52,081 Speaker 2: So it's I think because of that I've toned it down, 188 00:07:52,481 --> 00:07:53,961 Speaker 2: but it is a huge part of who I am, 189 00:07:54,441 --> 00:07:56,681 Speaker 2: and I think, yeah, if I didn't care what people thought, 190 00:07:56,721 --> 00:07:58,961 Speaker 2: I would express that more on social media when I'm 191 00:07:58,961 --> 00:08:01,961 Speaker 2: making my coaching videos, when I'm posting, when I'm talking, 192 00:08:02,401 --> 00:08:04,281 Speaker 2: and just be less coached on it and more just 193 00:08:04,321 --> 00:08:05,481 Speaker 2: like fucking embodied. 194 00:08:05,721 --> 00:08:06,321 Speaker 3: That's so cool. 195 00:08:06,401 --> 00:08:08,761 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the cheeky side of you. So funny. 196 00:08:08,921 --> 00:08:09,881 Speaker 1: It was actually so funny. 197 00:08:09,961 --> 00:08:10,521 Speaker 3: I love it too. 198 00:08:10,641 --> 00:08:13,081 Speaker 2: It feels good to be in that energy. It feels 199 00:08:13,121 --> 00:08:14,401 Speaker 2: like a big part of who I am. 200 00:08:14,721 --> 00:08:17,601 Speaker 1: But it feels like it can be judged. It's not. Yeah, 201 00:08:17,641 --> 00:08:19,561 Speaker 1: you don't feel fully safe and embodied, and it yet 202 00:08:19,601 --> 00:08:20,881 Speaker 1: to do it whenever, whenever. 203 00:08:20,721 --> 00:08:23,201 Speaker 2: Yes, abound, whoever, And I think the last twelve months 204 00:08:23,201 --> 00:08:25,761 Speaker 2: has really been about that for me, really stepping into 205 00:08:25,921 --> 00:08:29,681 Speaker 2: myself more and owning myself no matter what room I'm in. 206 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:32,441 Speaker 2: So I'm still learning and there's always new levels to that, right, 207 00:08:32,481 --> 00:08:35,401 Speaker 2: there's every new level. There's a new devil, so there's 208 00:08:35,441 --> 00:08:38,081 Speaker 2: that too. But yeah, this is probably the most embodied 209 00:08:38,121 --> 00:08:39,521 Speaker 2: that I've ever been, which is nice. 210 00:08:39,601 --> 00:08:41,881 Speaker 1: But it's really cool, long way ago work in progress. Yes, 211 00:08:41,921 --> 00:08:43,881 Speaker 1: we all laugh about the human experience, isn't it. 212 00:08:44,321 --> 00:08:46,881 Speaker 2: Yeah, when was the last time that you felt completely 213 00:08:46,921 --> 00:08:49,801 Speaker 2: misunderstood or judged? And what do you wish someone would 214 00:08:49,801 --> 00:08:51,241 Speaker 2: have asked you or considered. 215 00:08:51,801 --> 00:08:57,761 Speaker 1: I think in a previous friendship breakdown, I chose to 216 00:08:57,841 --> 00:09:03,561 Speaker 1: be quiet and to not speak share my experience, my truth, 217 00:09:05,521 --> 00:09:10,561 Speaker 1: and that led to being very misunderstood and judged because 218 00:09:10,601 --> 00:09:14,201 Speaker 1: there was a certain narrative that was created and when 219 00:09:14,241 --> 00:09:17,561 Speaker 1: someone doesn't speak, I feel like it almost makes you 220 00:09:17,641 --> 00:09:20,601 Speaker 1: look guilty and the only thing to believe is the 221 00:09:20,681 --> 00:09:23,681 Speaker 1: narrative that is being created. On the other side, I 222 00:09:23,721 --> 00:09:26,361 Speaker 1: always think that two people have their own experiences and 223 00:09:26,401 --> 00:09:29,641 Speaker 1: it's their own truth that should always be there, you know. 224 00:09:30,721 --> 00:09:33,321 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel that was really hard because I 225 00:09:33,401 --> 00:09:36,921 Speaker 1: just had to accept that I was going to be judged, 226 00:09:36,961 --> 00:09:39,801 Speaker 1: misunderstood and people were going to believe a narrative that 227 00:09:39,921 --> 00:09:41,481 Speaker 1: is out there, and I kind of don't blame them 228 00:09:41,481 --> 00:09:44,561 Speaker 1: because I wasn't speaking up. I chose to do that 229 00:09:44,641 --> 00:09:47,001 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to partake in anything online it 230 00:09:47,121 --> 00:09:51,241 Speaker 1: could cause more drama or any harm to anyone on 231 00:09:51,281 --> 00:09:53,081 Speaker 1: the other side, because it's not how I want to be. 232 00:09:53,121 --> 00:09:54,561 Speaker 1: It's not the example I want to be to woman 233 00:09:54,641 --> 00:09:57,241 Speaker 1: to my daughter. Yeah, but it was really hard. Yeah, 234 00:09:57,321 --> 00:09:59,361 Speaker 1: they just had to kind of copy it and suffer 235 00:09:59,401 --> 00:10:03,201 Speaker 1: in silence. But yeah, that was tricky. Yeah that was hard, 236 00:10:03,241 --> 00:10:05,561 Speaker 1: hit a whole really hard. Yeah, really hard to hold, 237 00:10:05,721 --> 00:10:07,161 Speaker 1: really consuming too. 238 00:10:07,201 --> 00:10:09,681 Speaker 2: Like hard to accept that this is the narrative that 239 00:10:09,801 --> 00:10:12,401 Speaker 2: is being betrayed and not being able to do anything 240 00:10:12,401 --> 00:10:15,001 Speaker 2: about it. Yeah. And I could have for choosing to 241 00:10:15,041 --> 00:10:17,121 Speaker 2: be like so to speak, like the bigger person and 242 00:10:17,201 --> 00:10:18,641 Speaker 2: just like be above, like rise above. 243 00:10:18,921 --> 00:10:21,001 Speaker 1: For sure, I could have said and did so much, 244 00:10:21,041 --> 00:10:23,041 Speaker 1: but I was like, no, that's not what I want 245 00:10:23,081 --> 00:10:26,681 Speaker 1: to do. So yeah, that was probably the last time. Yeah, 246 00:10:26,721 --> 00:10:28,721 Speaker 1: it's hard, like cop things on the chin like that. 247 00:10:28,921 --> 00:10:30,761 Speaker 1: It is, especially in front of a large audience. 248 00:10:30,841 --> 00:10:33,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we got eyes on your spotlight on you. Yeah, 249 00:10:33,841 --> 00:10:34,681 Speaker 2: that's a lot to hold. 250 00:10:34,881 --> 00:10:39,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, thank you for sharing. If your pain and 251 00:10:39,361 --> 00:10:44,161 Speaker 1: sadness could speak right now, what would it say? You're 252 00:10:44,161 --> 00:10:48,361 Speaker 1: on a good day tonight. If my pain and sadness 253 00:10:48,401 --> 00:10:50,641 Speaker 1: could speak right now, what would it say. 254 00:10:52,281 --> 00:10:53,721 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm going to answer this correctly, 255 00:10:53,761 --> 00:10:55,561 Speaker 2: but I just feel like I've been struggling to keep 256 00:10:55,601 --> 00:10:59,561 Speaker 2: it all together lately, you know, like feeling like I'm 257 00:10:59,561 --> 00:11:03,121 Speaker 2: falling behind, feeling like an imposter, feeling like I'm failing, 258 00:11:03,921 --> 00:11:07,001 Speaker 2: Feeling who the fuck do I think I am to 259 00:11:07,041 --> 00:11:08,681 Speaker 2: be doing all the things that I'm doing. 260 00:11:09,041 --> 00:11:10,681 Speaker 3: I think that I can succeed. 261 00:11:10,281 --> 00:11:14,121 Speaker 2: In it, you know, And also, yeah, just feeling like 262 00:11:14,161 --> 00:11:16,161 Speaker 2: I'm chasing my tail a bit at the moment. Yeah, 263 00:11:16,201 --> 00:11:18,321 Speaker 2: It's felt like that for a couple of weeks, trying 264 00:11:18,321 --> 00:11:20,161 Speaker 2: to get everything done, trying to manage everything, trying to 265 00:11:20,201 --> 00:11:21,801 Speaker 2: manage my time better, trying to get on top of 266 00:11:21,841 --> 00:11:24,721 Speaker 2: myself and taking care of myself and taking care of 267 00:11:24,761 --> 00:11:26,681 Speaker 2: all the other things that I've got going on, and 268 00:11:26,721 --> 00:11:29,281 Speaker 2: making sure that everything stays afloat and is of good quality. 269 00:11:29,761 --> 00:11:31,201 Speaker 2: And that's the thing, the pressure that I feel like 270 00:11:31,201 --> 00:11:32,081 Speaker 2: I'm putting on myself. 271 00:11:32,521 --> 00:11:36,761 Speaker 1: Beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, does that answer your question? Definitely? 272 00:11:36,841 --> 00:11:37,041 Speaker 3: Yeah. 273 00:11:37,121 --> 00:11:38,841 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's cool just even to say it out loud, 274 00:11:38,841 --> 00:11:40,801 Speaker 1: like I don't have to give you advice here, It's 275 00:11:40,801 --> 00:11:43,201 Speaker 1: just like that's there for you. Yeah, it's cool for 276 00:11:43,241 --> 00:11:45,081 Speaker 1: you to be aware of that and like accept that 277 00:11:45,161 --> 00:11:47,641 Speaker 1: and love on yourself on that I love on you, 278 00:11:47,681 --> 00:11:49,321 Speaker 1: and that it's not going to be there forever. It's 279 00:11:49,321 --> 00:11:51,201 Speaker 1: just what you're feeling right now, that's real. That's okay, 280 00:11:51,241 --> 00:11:52,081 Speaker 1: it doesn't he fixing. 281 00:11:52,281 --> 00:11:54,681 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. I think it was more. It was 282 00:11:55,001 --> 00:11:57,761 Speaker 2: felt stronger. I still lingers like it's definitely there, but 283 00:11:57,761 --> 00:12:00,121 Speaker 2: it felt stronger when I got sick last week. Yeah, 284 00:12:00,161 --> 00:12:02,361 Speaker 2: it was really loud, like really loud. It was like 285 00:12:02,401 --> 00:12:03,881 Speaker 2: the biggest thing that I was thinking of, and I 286 00:12:03,921 --> 00:12:05,641 Speaker 2: was like, Fuck, this week is just to be tough, 287 00:12:05,641 --> 00:12:07,681 Speaker 2: and that's going to be okay, And I've just got 288 00:12:07,681 --> 00:12:10,001 Speaker 2: to ride the wave and keep swimming and just get 289 00:12:10,001 --> 00:12:12,641 Speaker 2: through this discomfort. And I know like eventually, when I 290 00:12:12,641 --> 00:12:15,681 Speaker 2: start feeling better, I'll start thinking better too. Yes, just 291 00:12:15,801 --> 00:12:17,801 Speaker 2: right now, that just feels true for me. It's just 292 00:12:17,841 --> 00:12:20,681 Speaker 2: a lot of stacking. Yeah, my fear and my dad 293 00:12:20,761 --> 00:12:23,961 Speaker 2: and my scared little girl who's pushing beyond her comfort 294 00:12:24,041 --> 00:12:26,281 Speaker 2: zone and doing things she's never done before. 295 00:12:25,921 --> 00:12:27,201 Speaker 1: And stretching herself. 296 00:12:27,321 --> 00:12:27,961 Speaker 3: Yeah. 297 00:12:28,121 --> 00:12:31,201 Speaker 1: Where in life have you experienced the deepest pain and 298 00:12:31,321 --> 00:12:36,081 Speaker 1: the deepest joy. Probably my intimate relationship with Steve, I 299 00:12:36,121 --> 00:12:40,241 Speaker 1: would say, yeah, yeah, Yeah, we've been together seventeen years 300 00:12:40,281 --> 00:12:42,601 Speaker 1: and there's definitely been a lot of painful times and 301 00:12:42,681 --> 00:12:46,041 Speaker 1: challenges and things that we've navigated together. But also like 302 00:12:46,081 --> 00:12:49,361 Speaker 1: the most joyous moments together as well being a team, 303 00:12:49,481 --> 00:12:54,401 Speaker 1: having children together, accomplishments, travel, all the highs of life 304 00:12:54,401 --> 00:12:55,881 Speaker 1: I've got to do with him, Like I spent half 305 00:12:55,921 --> 00:12:56,641 Speaker 1: my life with him. 306 00:12:56,921 --> 00:12:57,201 Speaker 3: Yeah. 307 00:12:57,241 --> 00:13:03,001 Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, i'd say my intimate relationship. Yeah that's cool. 308 00:13:03,161 --> 00:13:04,281 Speaker 3: Yea makes sense. 309 00:13:04,401 --> 00:13:07,761 Speaker 1: Relationships the biggest, like biggest challenge of your growth. Hey 310 00:13:08,081 --> 00:13:12,761 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yep. You can't hide, you can't run there, 311 00:13:12,801 --> 00:13:16,801 Speaker 1: you catch you. Where in life do you feel like 312 00:13:17,001 --> 00:13:20,241 Speaker 1: the most like yourself where you can be yourself. 313 00:13:19,881 --> 00:13:21,241 Speaker 3: In our friendship? Yeah? 314 00:13:21,321 --> 00:13:25,601 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's been the most the most healing thing for 315 00:13:25,681 --> 00:13:28,041 Speaker 2: so many reasons, and I've shared all of them with 316 00:13:28,081 --> 00:13:30,921 Speaker 2: you already, you know. But yeah, our friendship, I feel 317 00:13:30,961 --> 00:13:33,921 Speaker 2: like there is no no side of me that can't 318 00:13:33,921 --> 00:13:35,761 Speaker 2: come out, There's no side of me that isn't loved, 319 00:13:35,801 --> 00:13:38,841 Speaker 2: there's no rock unturned, like you know everything about me, 320 00:13:39,001 --> 00:13:41,361 Speaker 2: you know, Yeah. 321 00:13:41,201 --> 00:13:42,801 Speaker 3: And I can just be all of who I am. 322 00:13:42,841 --> 00:13:46,361 Speaker 2: And even if I am exploring new sides to myself, 323 00:13:46,641 --> 00:13:48,841 Speaker 2: I feel like you explore them with me. Yeah, there's 324 00:13:48,881 --> 00:13:51,881 Speaker 2: no judgment, there's just curiosity. It's like I'm exploring myself 325 00:13:51,881 --> 00:13:53,881 Speaker 2: and discovering who I am, and you discover them with 326 00:13:53,921 --> 00:13:57,561 Speaker 2: mesa and that's really fun, so cool, Yeah, beautiful. 327 00:13:57,721 --> 00:13:58,121 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:13:58,441 --> 00:14:00,881 Speaker 2: Oh what's something that you used to define you that 329 00:14:01,041 --> 00:14:01,841 Speaker 2: no longer does? 330 00:14:02,361 --> 00:14:05,641 Speaker 1: I think success? They used to wrap a lot of 331 00:14:05,681 --> 00:14:08,321 Speaker 1: my worth and who I was and how successful I was, 332 00:14:08,841 --> 00:14:11,641 Speaker 1: Whereas that's like feel so far away. Now it's more 333 00:14:11,681 --> 00:14:13,721 Speaker 1: of who I am and the impact I make and 334 00:14:13,721 --> 00:14:15,521 Speaker 1: how I show up in the world and how make 335 00:14:15,601 --> 00:14:18,081 Speaker 1: people feel. Yeah, that feels more true for me now 336 00:14:18,161 --> 00:14:20,161 Speaker 1: as it used to be. Yeah, how successful I was. 337 00:14:20,801 --> 00:14:22,201 Speaker 1: You think that would define the way that you would 338 00:14:22,201 --> 00:14:25,521 Speaker 1: show up, Yeah, definitely, and how people perceive me and 339 00:14:25,561 --> 00:14:28,841 Speaker 1: how I would act and decisions I made be wrapped 340 00:14:28,921 --> 00:14:31,161 Speaker 1: up in how successful I was and how I looked 341 00:14:31,241 --> 00:14:33,641 Speaker 1: like it was like an identity. It was, Yeah, because 342 00:14:33,641 --> 00:14:35,281 Speaker 1: I was trying to prove something to myself and to 343 00:14:35,321 --> 00:14:38,081 Speaker 1: everyone that I was successful, because I thought that was 344 00:14:38,121 --> 00:14:40,201 Speaker 1: a point to be successful, Like why do you work 345 00:14:40,281 --> 00:14:43,081 Speaker 1: so hard and deal with this work to be successful? 346 00:14:43,401 --> 00:14:45,761 Speaker 2: What do you think was stronger wanting to prove to 347 00:14:45,881 --> 00:14:48,081 Speaker 2: others that you could or wanting to prove to yourself 348 00:14:48,081 --> 00:14:48,361 Speaker 2: that you. 349 00:14:50,921 --> 00:14:53,481 Speaker 1: Probably others. If I'm being honest, my ego wanted to 350 00:14:53,481 --> 00:14:59,081 Speaker 1: say I was genuinely curious yeah, probably others, and then yeah, 351 00:14:59,121 --> 00:15:02,121 Speaker 1: through my brain aneurysm. When I just pulled everything back, 352 00:15:02,121 --> 00:15:03,401 Speaker 1: I felt like an onguon that was just pulling on 353 00:15:03,441 --> 00:15:06,801 Speaker 1: their eyes back. I was like, I've done more in 354 00:15:06,841 --> 00:15:09,881 Speaker 1: my life than I could have ever dreamt off. I've 355 00:15:09,881 --> 00:15:11,961 Speaker 1: ticked off more boxes than I could have ever dreamed of. 356 00:15:12,041 --> 00:15:14,041 Speaker 1: And my little girl would be so proud. If I 357 00:15:14,121 --> 00:15:16,321 Speaker 1: was back in that space and look at what I've done, 358 00:15:16,321 --> 00:15:19,161 Speaker 1: I'd be like, holy shit, you did all that. And 359 00:15:19,161 --> 00:15:20,321 Speaker 1: I got to a point where I was like, oh 360 00:15:20,321 --> 00:15:23,121 Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't need to prove to anyone all myself. 361 00:15:23,241 --> 00:15:28,201 Speaker 1: I've outdone myself. Yeah, And I remember having that thought 362 00:15:28,241 --> 00:15:31,801 Speaker 1: going into surgery, obviously having children and watching them grow. 363 00:15:31,881 --> 00:15:33,441 Speaker 1: But I was like, if I was to not make 364 00:15:33,441 --> 00:15:38,001 Speaker 1: it out the surgery, I've lived a cool life so much. Yeah, 365 00:15:38,041 --> 00:15:39,841 Speaker 1: I've done so much more than I could have ever 366 00:15:39,881 --> 00:15:42,241 Speaker 1: dreamt of. I'm so proud of the risks I've taken. 367 00:15:42,321 --> 00:15:44,281 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of the falls that I've had. I've 368 00:15:44,281 --> 00:15:46,601 Speaker 1: got back up, I've picked myself up. How brave I've 369 00:15:46,641 --> 00:15:50,801 Speaker 1: been to take risks and to try new things, through heartbreak, 370 00:15:50,841 --> 00:15:52,561 Speaker 1: through all of it, and I'm so resilient, and I 371 00:15:52,681 --> 00:15:54,801 Speaker 1: just I feel like chrolls want to see me be 372 00:15:54,881 --> 00:15:57,001 Speaker 1: knocked down, but I'm like, oh, I'm a stubborn motherfucker. 373 00:15:58,841 --> 00:15:59,801 Speaker 1: You can't. I'll be down. 374 00:15:59,841 --> 00:16:01,281 Speaker 3: But it's one of my best traits. 375 00:16:01,361 --> 00:16:03,921 Speaker 1: And honestly them, Yeah, she's resilient. 376 00:16:04,081 --> 00:16:06,721 Speaker 3: Yeah she has she was a little girl, so yes. 377 00:16:06,881 --> 00:16:10,201 Speaker 1: I was really proud and yeah that's cool, cool reflection. 378 00:16:10,281 --> 00:16:11,321 Speaker 1: Isn't it a good question? Yeah? 379 00:16:11,361 --> 00:16:12,201 Speaker 3: I like that answer. 380 00:16:12,321 --> 00:16:14,921 Speaker 2: Yeah, who would you be if you stop trying to 381 00:16:14,921 --> 00:16:17,321 Speaker 2: be seen as good all the time? And how would 382 00:16:17,321 --> 00:16:19,321 Speaker 2: you show up differently? Will there be a side to 383 00:16:19,361 --> 00:16:20,521 Speaker 2: you that we all haven't seen? 384 00:16:21,881 --> 00:16:27,041 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I feel like I am a very sexual 385 00:16:27,481 --> 00:16:29,921 Speaker 1: being a sexual human, and I feel like I would 386 00:16:29,921 --> 00:16:33,001 Speaker 1: love to talk more on that, lead more in that, 387 00:16:33,361 --> 00:16:35,521 Speaker 1: be more of that. But I'm on that journey at 388 00:16:35,521 --> 00:16:37,561 Speaker 1: the moment. I don't feel like I'm a leader in that, 389 00:16:38,441 --> 00:16:41,441 Speaker 1: but I would like to one day. But I'm still 390 00:16:41,481 --> 00:16:46,681 Speaker 1: working around what other people think and how comfortable I 391 00:16:46,721 --> 00:16:49,601 Speaker 1: am with it all, and I'm still exploring myself, getting 392 00:16:49,641 --> 00:16:51,521 Speaker 1: to know that part of me that I've shut down 393 00:16:51,561 --> 00:16:54,241 Speaker 1: for thirty six years. Yeah, but I definitely feel like 394 00:16:54,441 --> 00:16:59,001 Speaker 1: she's emerging Yeah, and it's there and it's exciting, but 395 00:16:59,081 --> 00:17:01,921 Speaker 1: there's so much judgment around it. And I speak to 396 00:17:02,041 --> 00:17:05,521 Speaker 1: an audience of thousands, yeah, on the weekly. So if 397 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,201 Speaker 1: I wasn't scared or there was no judgment and it 398 00:17:08,281 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: was fully accepted, there'd be That's a huge part of 399 00:17:11,120 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: who I am. 400 00:17:11,801 --> 00:17:13,001 Speaker 3: Different conversations happening. 401 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a huge part of who I am and 402 00:17:15,561 --> 00:17:16,681 Speaker 1: how I want to live. 403 00:17:16,801 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, conversations we have behind closed doors, having had everywhere 404 00:17:20,441 --> 00:17:20,881 Speaker 2: all the time. 405 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,801 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, it's beautiful. 406 00:17:22,961 --> 00:17:27,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe in the future maybe. Oh it's a deep one. 407 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 3: Oh, hit me with it. 408 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,401 Speaker 1: What's a silent battle? You are tired of carrying alone? 409 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: The first thing that came to mind is heartbreak. The 410 00:17:37,761 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: second part to that feels like loneliness. Those are the 411 00:17:40,721 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: first two words that popped into my head. So I'm 412 00:17:42,561 --> 00:17:44,201 Speaker 1: not going to try to challenge that. I think that's 413 00:17:44,201 --> 00:17:46,281 Speaker 1: what feels true for me. Intuitively, that's what wanted to 414 00:17:46,281 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: come forward. I think I don't acknowledge the heartbreak that 415 00:17:49,201 --> 00:17:52,041 Speaker 1: I felt from my previous relationship because I feel like 416 00:17:52,041 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: I should be over it, and I don't think that 417 00:17:53,801 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: I allow myself to fully feel sometimes because I'm so busy. 418 00:17:58,041 --> 00:18:02,241 Speaker 1: To what degree that relationship hurt me? Yeah, it meant. 419 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,401 Speaker 2: What it meant to me, how painful it was, leave 420 00:18:05,761 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: once you try, how much I tried, how much I 421 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 2: wanted it to work, how much I wanted it to 422 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,281 Speaker 2: be him, how much I really thought that he was 423 00:18:11,321 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 2: going to be the man that I was going to marry. 424 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,121 Speaker 2: And I think I push it aside a lot. I mean, 425 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I carry that alone because you 426 00:18:18,281 --> 00:18:21,641 Speaker 2: have been there, my rock, through that entire experience, and 427 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,721 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel like I've been alone in it. 428 00:18:23,721 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: It feels like a burden that I carry, Yeah, you know, 429 00:18:26,321 --> 00:18:29,721 Speaker 2: because it feels like something I just have to live life, 430 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,321 Speaker 2: move on, get on with it, accept it. And I 431 00:18:32,321 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: don't want to accept it. And that's something that even 432 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: voicing that out loud is hard to be seen in that. 433 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: And then I think the loneliness that comes with that 434 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 2: is just something that I've always felt like, it doesn't 435 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,561 Speaker 2: matter how old I was, whether I was eight, twelve, fifteen, 436 00:18:45,801 --> 00:18:47,921 Speaker 2: something that I've always carried his loneliness. And I feel 437 00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:51,521 Speaker 2: like an old soul who's like sounds really fucked up, 438 00:18:51,561 --> 00:18:54,281 Speaker 2: but like supposed to journey life alone It's like I 439 00:18:54,321 --> 00:18:56,201 Speaker 2: always thought that I had to do it alone, and 440 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: I thought my journey was going to be alone and 441 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: I was never going to have good people in my 442 00:19:00,281 --> 00:19:03,001 Speaker 2: life to support me on the journey. So I think 443 00:19:03,041 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: that feels like a burden that I carry. Yeah, yeah, 444 00:19:05,921 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 2: even though I know it's not true. 445 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: It's true. You know, it's your experience right now. Yeah. 446 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,321 Speaker 2: And then when we did Human Design with Fee and 447 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: she said, like, you have a lonely journey, you have 448 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: a lonely soul, I was like, I feel that with 449 00:19:17,961 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: every answer my being. It doesn't matter if I'm surrounded 450 00:19:20,441 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 2: by people, there's always an inkling in the back of 451 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:22,561 Speaker 2: my head. 452 00:19:22,441 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: That comes up. Wow. 453 00:19:24,201 --> 00:19:25,641 Speaker 3: Yeah, not always. Not now. 454 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: I have more fulfilling relationships now that really soothe that 455 00:19:29,721 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: part of me. But like, over the years, it's definitely 456 00:19:31,961 --> 00:19:35,041 Speaker 2: been heavy. Yeah yeah you yeah. 457 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So ex partner, if you're listening to this, thanks, No, no, no, no, 458 00:19:40,801 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: not that it was. 459 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:47,241 Speaker 2: And he didn't do anything like it was a great relationship. 460 00:19:47,481 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: We had some challenges and some hurdles and things that 461 00:19:50,681 --> 00:19:51,801 Speaker 2: we couldn't work out together. 462 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,001 Speaker 1: Fay, That's all I have to say about that. But 463 00:19:59,041 --> 00:20:04,001 Speaker 1: if you're listening well, you're welcome insight to my mind. Yeah. 464 00:20:04,041 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, and someone says like he didn't do anything, 465 00:20:06,921 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's the problem. He didn't do enough. Yeah, 466 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: he didn't step up, he didn't do the work, he 467 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,761 Speaker 1: wasn't willing. Yeah. It sounds nice when you say like, oh, 468 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: he didn't do anything wrong. Yeah, but he also didn't 469 00:20:20,481 --> 00:20:24,521 Speaker 1: do anything to make that yeah commitment and make it work. 470 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,441 Speaker 2: I know, I get that, and I think, like I've 471 00:20:26,521 --> 00:20:29,001 Speaker 2: just sat with it so many times that I kind 472 00:20:29,001 --> 00:20:31,241 Speaker 2: of have been through the whole anger and been through 473 00:20:31,241 --> 00:20:33,641 Speaker 2: the frustration, and been through the why couldn't you have 474 00:20:34,201 --> 00:20:36,521 Speaker 2: you know, stepped up or met me where I needed 475 00:20:36,521 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: you to meet me. 476 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,521 Speaker 3: But this is not how I choose to remember him. 477 00:20:39,761 --> 00:20:41,001 Speaker 2: You know, it's not what I want to choose to 478 00:20:41,001 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: hold on to any more because it only punishes me 479 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,681 Speaker 2: and it makes me paint him to be the villain 480 00:20:45,721 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: and I don't want to do that. 481 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,521 Speaker 1: You know, you just an acceptance. Acceptance. 482 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,801 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that hurt isn't there, Yes, you know, 483 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 2: for a multitude of reasons, but it's just it's not 484 00:20:55,441 --> 00:20:57,321 Speaker 2: what I want to hold on to. No grateful for 485 00:20:57,321 --> 00:21:00,041 Speaker 2: the experience, I have him changed me as a woman 486 00:21:00,481 --> 00:21:01,201 Speaker 2: in the best way. 487 00:21:01,281 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: And even when you meet your person, yeah, like you 488 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: know that chapter had happen otherwise you wouldn't have the 489 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,201 Speaker 1: relationship you've got with that man. You know, you look 490 00:21:09,241 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: back and be like, wow, I really needed that. I did. 491 00:21:11,281 --> 00:21:13,281 Speaker 2: I honestly I grew so much as a woman from 492 00:21:13,281 --> 00:21:15,761 Speaker 2: that relationship. Anyway, we're going on a super tangent. 493 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,801 Speaker 1: But that's where the gratitude comes in though, and that's done. Yeah, yeah. 494 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,001 Speaker 2: Do you truly believe that everything happens for a reason 495 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,401 Speaker 2: or do we give things meaning afterwards? 496 00:21:24,961 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: No? I think everything happens for a reason. Yeah, okay, 497 00:21:27,201 --> 00:21:30,081 Speaker 1: for a purpose. I think I truly do believe life 498 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: happens for us. Even like we did a beautiful balancing 499 00:21:34,281 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: what do you call it, not ceremony with Lewis, what 500 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: do you call it? Therapy session? 501 00:21:38,721 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: It was a therapy session. 502 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Therapy. 503 00:21:40,241 --> 00:21:41,641 Speaker 3: We were crying our eyes out. 504 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was just like we had to pinpoint 505 00:21:44,481 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: a really painful moment in our life. And this is 506 00:21:46,681 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: even then, it was just more evidence for me of 507 00:21:48,481 --> 00:21:54,081 Speaker 1: everything happened for me, every micro moment, huge moment, every challenge, 508 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: every rejection, every redirection. I would not be who I like. 509 00:21:58,120 --> 00:21:59,761 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in the studio talking to you. I 510 00:21:59,761 --> 00:22:01,801 Speaker 1: wouldn't be who I am. I wouldn't have people in 511 00:22:01,801 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: my life. I wouldn't have the kids, it wouldn't have 512 00:22:03,241 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: any of it. If all of those things happen, I 513 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: feel like the universe does always have our back and 514 00:22:07,681 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: it's always tends up ahead of us. Yeah. I truly 515 00:22:09,921 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: do trust that. So, yeah, I do think everything happens 516 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: for a reason, and that's how I choose to live 517 00:22:13,681 --> 00:22:17,081 Speaker 1: my life. I just trust everyone. Shit's going down, I'm like, oh, man, 518 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why this is not that that I 519 00:22:18,561 --> 00:22:20,241 Speaker 1: fucking know there's a high reason why. 520 00:22:20,441 --> 00:22:21,001 Speaker 3: Oh why. 521 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,761 Speaker 1: I know that there is going to be a reason why. 522 00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:25,921 Speaker 1: And in three months, six months, nine months, twelve months, 523 00:22:25,961 --> 00:22:28,721 Speaker 1: I will look back and like, oh that's why. Yeah, 524 00:22:28,761 --> 00:22:30,241 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. If that didn't happen, I wouldn't be 525 00:22:30,241 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: here now this. I wouldn't be having this conversation. Yeah, 526 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:34,481 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have remembered that. I wouldn't have learnt that. 527 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,721 Speaker 1: Thank you. And I'm always thinking the universe. Hindsight is 528 00:22:37,721 --> 00:22:40,041 Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing, isn't it. If you truly trust 529 00:22:40,041 --> 00:22:42,401 Speaker 1: and believe that like life just isn't as painful. It's 530 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,441 Speaker 1: not as painful. It's so true it can move through 531 00:22:44,481 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: it with a little bit more ease. It doesn't mean 532 00:22:46,201 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: pain's not there, frustration is not there. All those human 533 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,121 Speaker 1: emotions are going to be there. You're a human, You're 534 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: not a fucking robot. But when you truly believe that 535 00:22:54,241 --> 00:22:56,601 Speaker 1: there's light there and there's a reason why it's happening, 536 00:22:57,041 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: you get through. 537 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,801 Speaker 2: It just means like it's not excruciating and you don't 538 00:22:59,801 --> 00:23:02,961 Speaker 2: fall into victim either, yes, because that doesn't save you. No, 539 00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:05,041 Speaker 2: it gets stuck there real quick's stuck there. 540 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 541 00:23:05,721 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, What's something about me that's impacted you that you've 542 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: never told me? All in a negative way or a 543 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,561 Speaker 1: positive way I ever told you? Yeah, So it could 544 00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: be something I've said that you like, really upset you. 545 00:23:16,721 --> 00:23:19,121 Speaker 1: Or it could be something powerful that I've done that's 546 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,881 Speaker 1: like wow, that really shaped me or helped me. Could 547 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,481 Speaker 1: be either way and I can hold either of them, 548 00:23:24,561 --> 00:23:26,041 Speaker 1: so bring them in. I'm trying to think of what 549 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,561 Speaker 1: I haven't actively voiced to you. 550 00:23:27,761 --> 00:23:31,841 Speaker 3: I could just tell you in the moment your decision 551 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: to do the podcast with me. 552 00:23:35,201 --> 00:23:35,761 Speaker 1: That's cool. 553 00:23:36,041 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that decision honestly, it was like like 554 00:23:39,761 --> 00:23:42,641 Speaker 2: our friendship and then even before the podcast, but then 555 00:23:42,681 --> 00:23:44,881 Speaker 2: that decision there, it was like it awakened something in 556 00:23:44,921 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: me that had been like lying dormant for so long, 557 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,521 Speaker 2: and it just like this whole other side to me 558 00:23:49,561 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 2: came out. Vulnerability, openness, exploration, curiosity, like impact, drive, all 559 00:23:56,321 --> 00:23:58,041 Speaker 2: these things that were kind of already there that were 560 00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:00,321 Speaker 2: kind of stale, stale. 561 00:24:00,521 --> 00:24:02,881 Speaker 1: Yeah, all the things are doing with the podcast too, 562 00:24:02,961 --> 00:24:06,761 Speaker 1: was things that you already wanted to do. Events, impact, speaking, 563 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of audience in stage or treats. Yeah, it just 564 00:24:09,801 --> 00:24:11,201 Speaker 1: kind of this is the foundation. 565 00:24:11,441 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: It's like I already knew that I wanted to do 566 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,001 Speaker 2: those things, and even from a young age, knew that 567 00:24:15,041 --> 00:24:16,761 Speaker 2: I was going to be speaking on stages, but didn't 568 00:24:16,801 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: know how. I didn't know what context it was going 569 00:24:19,241 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 2: to be in. And so this was the thing that 570 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is the direction, this is the path. 571 00:24:24,761 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: And yeah, your decision to ask me to join you 572 00:24:28,281 --> 00:24:30,801 Speaker 2: as co host on the podcast, honestly, like it was 573 00:24:30,801 --> 00:24:33,441 Speaker 2: a really pivotal moment in my life. Yeah, it awakened 574 00:24:33,441 --> 00:24:34,001 Speaker 2: so much to me. 575 00:24:34,441 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: So cool, Yeah, I love that. Ooh, okay, are you ready? 576 00:24:38,761 --> 00:24:38,961 Speaker 2: Yeah? 577 00:24:39,201 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 3: I think no, it's okay. 578 00:24:41,801 --> 00:24:45,081 Speaker 2: What's a past version of you that deserves more compassion? 579 00:24:47,201 --> 00:24:49,321 Speaker 1: Do things come to mind? So either one of these, 580 00:24:49,761 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: I'll speak on both of them. I think just a 581 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: little girl so badly wanted to be loved by a 582 00:24:54,561 --> 00:24:57,521 Speaker 1: father figure. I look back, I'm like, how the fuck 583 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: did I process that as a little girl, Like my 584 00:25:00,721 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: father walking out signing custody papers like he's taking a 585 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,041 Speaker 1: sip of the coffee, No big deal, done, no fight, 586 00:25:07,201 --> 00:25:09,721 Speaker 1: like doesn't need to do with us. And then this 587 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,281 Speaker 1: stepdad that just fucking hated my guts, Like talk about 588 00:25:13,321 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: abandon and a rejection and not two men that didn't 589 00:25:17,281 --> 00:25:17,761 Speaker 1: care for me. 590 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: You know. 591 00:25:18,801 --> 00:25:20,321 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I gave my little girl so much 592 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: more luve back then, and that's my work now. And 593 00:25:23,201 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: then also just the younger version of myself that was 594 00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:29,761 Speaker 1: going through all the online trolling that was really hard. 595 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I held myself very well in that 596 00:25:32,481 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: or like allowed myself to be in the pain. I 597 00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:37,001 Speaker 1: just tried to like push it aside and pretend everything 598 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: was okay, but it's so was not okay. Yeah, So 599 00:25:40,921 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: I think those two moments, those chapters. Yeah, moments like 600 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:49,481 Speaker 1: those chapters in my life were really hard. I look back, 601 00:25:49,521 --> 00:25:51,561 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh gosh, I just want to give you 602 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: the biggest hug. 603 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 604 00:25:53,281 --> 00:25:54,921 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish someone came and gave me. 605 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,241 Speaker 3: A big heart. You told you it was going to 606 00:25:56,281 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 3: be okay. 607 00:25:56,801 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and I'm sure they did, but I didn't 608 00:25:59,681 --> 00:26:00,161 Speaker 1: believe it. 609 00:26:00,281 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: So yeah, do what you had to in the moment 610 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: to survive full survival. Yeah, so much resilience for both 611 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,841 Speaker 2: of those experiences. 612 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,121 Speaker 3: Yeah, three of the experiences. 613 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,561 Speaker 1: For sure. If you're in a child could ask me something, 614 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: what do you think it would be? I think if 615 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I was answering that to you, I would ask you 616 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,001 Speaker 1: if I'm going to be okay? 617 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. 618 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,801 Speaker 1: A little girl would look up to you because you'd 619 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: be someone I would be inspired by and see you 620 00:26:22,441 --> 00:26:24,801 Speaker 1: doing great things, right, Okay, be like, oh my gosh, 621 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: am I going to be okay? 622 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: Okay? 623 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,001 Speaker 1: That helps me have context. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to 624 00:26:28,041 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: be okay, Okay, what did your little girl want to 625 00:26:30,801 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: ask me? Is it safe to be myselfiful? 626 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 3: I don't know why that just came. 627 00:26:36,041 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeahful, Like the word play came into mind, And then 628 00:26:39,681 --> 00:26:40,961 Speaker 2: the words can I play? 629 00:26:41,681 --> 00:26:44,001 Speaker 1: Is it safe to be myself? Is it safe to play? Yeah? 630 00:26:44,041 --> 00:26:48,481 Speaker 1: That's cool. Yeah, random, so cool question, that's so cool. 631 00:26:48,721 --> 00:26:51,321 Speaker 3: Love We don't we were sucker for them? 632 00:26:51,441 --> 00:26:53,561 Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay. 633 00:26:53,801 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: Most recently, what has made you feel the most alive? 634 00:27:01,201 --> 00:27:11,761 Speaker 1: Oh? Just sex? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, intimacy. Yeah, with Steve, 635 00:27:11,961 --> 00:27:16,561 Speaker 1: just exploring and deepening our connection. It makes me feel 636 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: so alive. Yeah, Like I actually feel like I have 637 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,921 Speaker 1: an addiction at the moment. I can't get enough. That's 638 00:27:20,961 --> 00:27:23,881 Speaker 1: all I think about. We're just so connected right now. 639 00:27:24,321 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: Really good season between you two, really good season. 640 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Our communications, where we're at, we talk about it 641 00:27:30,761 --> 00:27:32,561 Speaker 1: all the time. We're like, oh, look at us at 642 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: like five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago. 643 00:27:34,961 --> 00:27:39,161 Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa, what were we doing? How do we survive? 644 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 645 00:27:40,241 --> 00:27:42,681 Speaker 1: Like where we're our heads at, how do we get 646 00:27:42,681 --> 00:27:45,561 Speaker 1: by communicating the way that we did. We're never abusive 647 00:27:45,561 --> 00:27:48,561 Speaker 1: to each other or anything, but just how far we've come, say, 648 00:27:48,521 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: if we feel, how ground we are within ourselves, the 649 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: level of safety, the level of trust, it's just so 650 00:27:55,561 --> 00:27:58,561 Speaker 1: different now. And yeah, the last couple of months, that 651 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,721 Speaker 1: beautiful energy has just brought us so close that our 652 00:28:01,761 --> 00:28:04,561 Speaker 1: intimacy has just deepened, and I feel so alive. 653 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: That's beautiful, cool, and it's so beautiful as well to 654 00:28:07,441 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: see you guys after seventeen years together show that it 655 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,761 Speaker 2: is possible, right, that is possible to deepen and connect 656 00:28:15,801 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 2: and for it to increasingly get better with time, as 657 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: opposed to the usual story that you hear, which is 658 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,041 Speaker 2: that you know, people get more and more disconnected with time. Like, 659 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: it's very rare that you hear people have really strong, 660 00:28:25,521 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: bonded relationships, and it's just such beautiful evidence to see it. 661 00:28:29,001 --> 00:28:31,241 Speaker 1: I always talk about to like the deaths of old marriage, 662 00:28:31,241 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: and I feel that it's like we're in a new 663 00:28:32,521 --> 00:28:33,001 Speaker 1: marriage again. 664 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:33,561 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's cool. 665 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,521 Speaker 1: I feel like we've had eight different marriages in the 666 00:28:35,561 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: seventeen years, Like this is like a new one. We 667 00:28:37,721 --> 00:28:38,681 Speaker 1: feel like honeymooners. 668 00:28:38,801 --> 00:28:41,361 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's reintroducing your new selves to each other. 669 00:28:41,441 --> 00:28:43,601 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I love the honeymoon stage fear. 670 00:28:43,841 --> 00:28:46,001 Speaker 1: Yeah. He's just such a different man to who he 671 00:28:46,081 --> 00:28:48,281 Speaker 1: was a year ago and to five years ago and 672 00:28:48,321 --> 00:28:50,321 Speaker 1: who you were a year Yeah, And I just love 673 00:28:50,401 --> 00:28:52,441 Speaker 1: him so much as he is now. I've loved him 674 00:28:52,441 --> 00:28:54,801 Speaker 1: in all stages, but this is like the most safest, 675 00:28:55,201 --> 00:28:58,441 Speaker 1: deeply connected that I've ever felt to him. Wow, which 676 00:28:58,481 --> 00:29:02,401 Speaker 1: is really powerful, powerful, so cool, makes you so happy? 677 00:29:02,521 --> 00:29:03,441 Speaker 3: Oh I love that. 678 00:29:05,281 --> 00:29:08,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love feel very lucky, very blessed. And it's 679 00:29:08,281 --> 00:29:10,321 Speaker 1: cool our kids get to see this too. Yeah, as 680 00:29:10,361 --> 00:29:12,401 Speaker 1: they grow up, you do hear of that, Like I'm 681 00:29:12,401 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: being together for ages, like you don't make the effort 682 00:29:15,081 --> 00:29:16,561 Speaker 1: and the spark's gone and. 683 00:29:16,521 --> 00:29:18,081 Speaker 3: People hate each other, hate each other. 684 00:29:18,281 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: The sex gets boring and it's like just so the 685 00:29:20,961 --> 00:29:22,841 Speaker 1: opposite for us, which is really cool. 686 00:29:23,001 --> 00:29:23,441 Speaker 3: It's cool. 687 00:29:23,641 --> 00:29:27,641 Speaker 1: Yeah, feeling alive. I love that. So cool. 688 00:29:27,921 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for joining us, guys. That's all for 689 00:29:29,761 --> 00:29:30,601 Speaker 3: the questions we have today. 690 00:29:30,641 --> 00:29:32,321 Speaker 2: We thought it'd just be super fun and I love 691 00:29:32,361 --> 00:29:35,361 Speaker 2: these questions when they're super raw and just you never 692 00:29:35,481 --> 00:29:36,041 Speaker 2: know what to. 693 00:29:36,041 --> 00:29:37,841 Speaker 1: Expect, you know, I don't know what's going to come up. 694 00:29:37,841 --> 00:29:40,561 Speaker 2: Hey, the most raw, authentic off the casp answers always 695 00:29:40,601 --> 00:29:41,921 Speaker 2: come out, and I feel like there's always such really 696 00:29:41,921 --> 00:29:42,761 Speaker 2: good nuggets in those. 697 00:29:42,841 --> 00:29:45,001 Speaker 1: It is. Thank you for joining us, and yeah, you 698 00:29:45,041 --> 00:29:47,441 Speaker 1: can always go back, rewind and write these questions down 699 00:29:47,441 --> 00:29:49,201 Speaker 1: and do them with your girlfriends like why not? Yeah, 700 00:29:49,401 --> 00:29:51,881 Speaker 1: so fun, so much fun. Thank you for us, we'll 701 00:29:51,881 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: see you on the next one. Bye bye,