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Speaker 1: Hi, welcome back to Bounce Forward with me.

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Speaker 2: Tip Paul, I'd like to acknowledge the traditional custodi into

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Speaker 2: the land of which I'm recording this podcast, the warundry

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Speaker 2: people to call a nation. I pay my respects to

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Speaker 2: elders past and present. Brook sent me a message I

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Speaker 2: heard recently. You've been doing your postnatal training certificate. What

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Speaker 2: was the moment that made you decide to want to

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Speaker 2: do it and what is it that you love about

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Speaker 2: training women so much?

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Speaker 1: Well, Brook, I have some news. I passed my exam.

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Speaker 1: I passed my exam.

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Speaker 2: Yay. I am a certified pre and postnatal trainer and

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Speaker 2: I got ninety nine percent on my exam, which I

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Speaker 2: was so excited about because I thought, if I failed

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Speaker 2: this exam, I'm going to have to give up as

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Speaker 2: a trainer because a lot of it was covering you know,

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Speaker 2: basic training, foundation principles and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So I passed. Now, I guess the moment I.

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Speaker 2: Decided I wanted to do it was I was really

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Speaker 2: super inspired by my viral mumboard programs. They're based on

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Speaker 2: the philosophy that you are postpartum for life, that you

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Speaker 2: have these children and there's no bouncing back, there's no

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Speaker 2: going back to what you were and just moving on

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Speaker 2: with your life. My podcast is called Bounce Forward because

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Speaker 2: it's about the bounce. It's about you know, getting stronger

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Speaker 2: and moving forward and not living in the past and

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Speaker 2: always striving to be better than what you were. And

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Speaker 2: the bounce Forward philosophy was just so important to me.

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Speaker 2: And the mumboard programs I've got Mumbled Lower Body Mumbled,

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Speaker 2: Upper Body, Mumboard Core, Prego Mumbod and a Total body

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Speaker 2: Mumboard Plus program. These programs they were filmed with my

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Speaker 2: prem post natal trainer Tash, and also my prem post

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Speaker 2: And with these women, I was so inspired by the

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Speaker 2: other trainers. I was like, oh my goodness, I want

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Speaker 2: to be able to take these programs. I want to

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Speaker 2: be able to, you know, empower women. And I have

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Speaker 2: always been a very competent trainer, but I understood that

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Speaker 2: there are specific things preconception, pregnancy, postpard and perimenopause, menopause,

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Speaker 2: these phases that women go through where you can't fudge it.

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Speaker 2: You do actually need the piece of paper and the

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Speaker 2: qualifications and our hormones are continuously shifting and changing.

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Speaker 1: Like a look at my husband.

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Speaker 2: He trains day in, day out, every single day, lifts

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Speaker 2: the weights, happy days, never changes, no fluctuations. Whereas I

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Speaker 2: look at my cycle and you know, through the lutial phase,

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Speaker 2: I'm struggling. Through my period, I'm struggling like you know,

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Speaker 2: but forllicular phase, I am like, it's like, what's wrong

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Speaker 1: I'm full of energy. I'm the energizer bunny.

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Speaker 1: I'll do two workouts in a day. I can't get

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Speaker 2: And these hormones, it's all natural, and I really wanted

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Speaker 2: to look into that. So I did this course and

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Speaker 2: it's a global certification with Brook Turner. She was fantastic

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Speaker 2: mentor and a very inspiring educator. And I wanted to

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Speaker 2: need to live with symptoms like prolapse, minor prolapses or leaking.

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Speaker 2: One in three women experience leaking after having babies and

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Speaker 2: they just put up with it. But as a trainer,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to empower women to say, you don't have

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Speaker 2: I can help you with your training and the strengthening

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Speaker 2: A lot of women don't even know what women's health

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Speaker 2: You got to get you snap your body back to

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Speaker 2: And that is not the way you should be training.

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Speaker 2: You should be training. You've got forever to find your fitness,

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Speaker 2: that's what Brooks says. And you should be training to

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Speaker 2: scared to work out when they're pregnant. I myself was

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Speaker 2: it felt like I had messed up the pregnancy, like

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Speaker 2: I looked. I was comparing myself to other trainers who

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Speaker 2: had had fit pregnancies, and I'd had a very unfit pregnancy,

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Speaker 2: So I guess comparing myself, I felt like, oh, you

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Speaker 2: see my pregnancies as such powerful teachers. I had pelvic

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Speaker 2: pelvic girdle pain, what that's like lightning crutch right. I

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Speaker 2: empathize with you. I had, you know, I had a miscarriage,

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Speaker 2: You know, I just gained an insight into women's psyche

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Speaker 2: and I am so excited to go forward and help women.

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Speaker 2: Our minds are always so fatigued with the to do lists.

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Speaker 2: You're not showing up completely rested and ready to perform

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Speaker 2: So I have loved training women and loved doing everything,

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Speaker 2: excited and so happy. So great question, Brook level up.

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Speaker 2: If you're a trainer working with women, go get your

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Speaker 2: always be working with women and love it so much.

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