WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 20 Feburary

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Burry Live Well

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<v Speaker 1>One Cherry and if everyone involved in what was an

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<v Speaker 1>extraordinary day to watch on television, imagine what have we

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<v Speaker 1>been to be there inside of the synagogue. Congrats to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone involved again all the highlights, please go and watch

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<v Speaker 1>them at skynews dot com dot au. Welcome to man Cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Locks to get to tonight, including not a great picture

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<v Speaker 1>when it came to unemployment today. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>devil in the detail and I will get to that

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment or two's time, as well as why

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<v Speaker 1>is there a big rush of citizenship ceremonies that are

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<v Speaker 1>happening around town. Lots of local mayors think something is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to what the minister is saying about what

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<v Speaker 1>is going on in a moment or two time, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course I will have my reflections on again what

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredible day at that incredible summit put together

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<v Speaker 1>by some incredible people. But I'm going to start with

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<v Speaker 1>something that I have to tell you is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be potentially distressing, that is difficult to watch, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is new that probably you have not heard until this

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<v Speaker 1>moment now because of the events that happen in our

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<v Speaker 1>own country and around the world. When you take a

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<v Speaker 1>sick kid to hospital, there's this incredible feeling when you

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<v Speaker 1>walk through the sliding doors. When you walk through that

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<v Speaker 1>you feel I have passed a threshold and we are

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<v Speaker 1>on our way towards treatment and recovery. We're on our

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<v Speaker 1>way to things getting better, not things getting worse. The

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<v Speaker 1>reality of life is that for some people it does

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<v Speaker 1>and for some kids it's a point of no return.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a family in Sydney that is mourning the

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<v Speaker 1>loss of their little boy, a little two year old

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<v Speaker 1>boy named Joe Massa. His parents, Eloise and Danny, have

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<v Speaker 1>spoken publicly today about what happened because a review into

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<v Speaker 1>the treatment of their son has been scathing about the

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<v Speaker 1>failures at a hospital on the northern beaches of Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gone blind, like his eyes are rolling to the

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<v Speaker 2>back of his head. It is not my boy anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>He is literally dying. He is just deteriorating in my arms.

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<v Speaker 2>I was pacing around the emergency department, still not given

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<v Speaker 2>a bed, just saying, look, he's opened up, breathing, He's

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<v Speaker 2>going in and out of consciousness. We need to do more.

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<v Speaker 2>He died a cruel death at the hands of a

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<v Speaker 2>hospital that failed him.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor little man in that poor family. Let me tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit about the decisions that were made

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<v Speaker 1>that led to the lack of treatment that led to

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<v Speaker 1>this little man having a heart attack and dying. They

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<v Speaker 1>presented in the morning with a boy who had clearly

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<v Speaker 1>lost an awful lot of fluids and his heart rate

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<v Speaker 1>was just thumping out of his little chest at one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety seven beats per minute. He should have

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<v Speaker 1>been treated within ten minutes. Instead, they moved through the

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<v Speaker 1>emergency queue at thirty minutes. There was two more hours

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<v Speaker 1>before he got a bed, and eventually, as I say,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a heart attack that ended up dying off

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<v Speaker 1>because his system could not cope with the amount of

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<v Speaker 1>fluid that he had lost. The central and fatal flaw

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<v Speaker 1>in his treatment was that he was denied, not forgotten,

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<v Speaker 1>but denied an IV drip that would have replaced the fluids,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have stabilized his body, that would have saved

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<v Speaker 1>him from the heart attack, and for all intents and purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>would have meant that it may have been a difficult

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days rather than the end of viital life. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that the healthcare system cannot provide perfect results.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everyone who passes through that threshold when you're panicked

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<v Speaker 1>as a parent is going to end up with their

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<v Speaker 1>kid getting better. But so many things went wrong here,

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<v Speaker 1>so many things. His mum and dad were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them, please give him the IV. Why haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>given him the IV? Can't you see what's happening? Is terrible? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the report, as I said, that was released today is

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<v Speaker 1>again damning about the decisions not taken and the decision

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<v Speaker 1>taken not to give him the fluids to stabilize his

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<v Speaker 1>body to prevent the heart attack that meant he died.

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<v Speaker 1>His parents, like any parents who have lost a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>will never be the same. But the strength that they

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<v Speaker 1>have shown today in their many media appearances to be

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<v Speaker 1>the parents on the behalf of their son who is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer here is incredible. These moments are ones where,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's impossible to put one foot in front

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<v Speaker 1>of the other until eventually you do, and then you walk,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you stride. And they are using all the

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<v Speaker 1>power that they possibly can to demand accountability, but to

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<v Speaker 1>demand that this never happens again.

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<v Speaker 3>They want a full parliamentary review. They also want a

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<v Speaker 3>review of Northern Beaches Hospital. They are calling for urgent

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<v Speaker 3>IT upgrades. They want the public private partnership with Healthscope

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<v Speaker 3>that governs this hospital to be put under the microscope.

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<v Speaker 3>Also investment in and wide enforcement of what's called the

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<v Speaker 3>Reach program that would see parents alert to their rights

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<v Speaker 3>and escalating their children's care on entry to any New

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<v Speaker 3>South Wales hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>We will follow the system and we will follow how

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<v Speaker 1>it responds. For their part, the Premiere of New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales has said this about their situation.

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<v Speaker 4>We won't rule anything out, including further inquiries. We take

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<v Speaker 4>this incredibly seriously and I'm profoundly, profoundly sorry that this

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<v Speaker 4>has happened. It's absolutely heartbreaking.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the person who will have even greater responsibility here,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what the Health Minister had to say today.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got some questions to answer. I'll be very honest

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<v Speaker 1>about it. A health system has let this family down

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<v Speaker 1>in the absolute worst way possible. Now I understand the

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<v Speaker 1>need for him to say things like let them down.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't, they betrayed them. And I feel exactly the

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<v Speaker 1>same emotions that you do right now as our hearts

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<v Speaker 1>sink for the little man sink, for his mum and dad,

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<v Speaker 1>for his grandparents, for everyone around them. I offer nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but strength and love to this family, but also a

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<v Speaker 1>promise that we will use our platform if they, in

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<v Speaker 1>any way, shape or form, need to keep nudging the system.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a horrible thing that took place. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a distressing thing to talk about at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. It is not normally how I would start

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<v Speaker 1>a show, but on a day like this, when something

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<v Speaker 1>we learn about is as bad as this, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to start tonight's program. Now to some other issues,

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<v Speaker 1>including of course China, and we know that their attitude

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<v Speaker 1>towards Australia is back in your box. We know how

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<v Speaker 1>they treated Australia when Australia had the temerity to try

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<v Speaker 1>to ask questions about a global pandemic that killed thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of people here and millions of people around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We also know that they take a dark and dim

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<v Speaker 1>view of Australia trying to do anything to defend ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>against potentially what may be a threat at some point

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<v Speaker 1>of China train to take Australia because Australia has chosen

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<v Speaker 1>the side of freedom as opposed to theirs and the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they run their country. Last night it was

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<v Speaker 1>breaking news. We've had twenty four hours to think even

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<v Speaker 1>more about it, but there were stories about Chinese warships

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<v Speaker 1>who were very close to Sydney. Now they were still

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<v Speaker 1>in technically international waters. But why are Chinese warships needing

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<v Speaker 1>any reason to be coming around the Australian coast. This

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<v Speaker 1>stuff is so often minimized, pretending that it's normal when

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, it ate it is a long way

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<v Speaker 1>for them to travel, and for them to travel here

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<v Speaker 1>specifically is an act of intimidation. Here's more that we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 5>Later Wednesday, the vessels were sailing east of Sydney and

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<v Speaker 5>have entered the country's Exclusive Economic Zone, which is the

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<v Speaker 5>area up to two hundred nautical miles from the coast.

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<v Speaker 5>The group includes a free get, a cruiser and a

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<v Speaker 5>replenishment vessel. A Defense Department spokesperson said in a statement

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<v Speaker 5>that it was routine for the Australian military to monitor

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<v Speaker 5>traffic in the Exclusive Economic Zone and any maritime approaches.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course we know when it comes to this

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, he will not speak with the shaking thunder

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<v Speaker 1>that he does towards political opponents in this country who

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<v Speaker 1>deny him what he believes to be either his place

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<v Speaker 1>in history when it comes to things like referendums or

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<v Speaker 1>bills passing through the parliament.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead, of course, with China, it was about backing off.

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<v Speaker 1>The more we back off, the closer they let us in,

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<v Speaker 1>the more trade that can be done. And the message

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to the more than one and almost one

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<v Speaker 1>and a half million voters with an interest in what

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<v Speaker 1>happens back in China because of family. Well, the message

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<v Speaker 1>keeps coming through that there's a way to do it

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a way not to do it. Now, we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen plenty of times that the Prime Minister has shown

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<v Speaker 1>a thundering emotion when he wants to How do you

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<v Speaker 1>think the Prime Minister should react when Chinese vessels are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to intimidate Australia and they are off the coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Sydney. I don't think this is enough from the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister, But maybe I'm a hard marker.

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<v Speaker 7>Just wonder more on Chinese tavy ship So you're worried

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<v Speaker 7>about them of Sydney?

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<v Speaker 8>No, Well, the Chinese noble ships are complying within a

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<v Speaker 8>national law. But as we do, we're I'm monitoring the

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<v Speaker 8>situation and observing what is going on as you would expect.

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<v Speaker 1>No, now again, I don't want the Prime Minister to

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<v Speaker 1>start using this type of language that will lead to

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<v Speaker 1>a conflict. But surely you'd have a more passionate response.

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<v Speaker 1>He of course, was annoyed because it distracted from the

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<v Speaker 1>thing he wanted to talk about today, which was even

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<v Speaker 1>more money going towards trying to get towards green hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that the good people of Wyala and their

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<v Speaker 1>jobs are going to be protected, but that's what he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk about today. He didn't want to dare

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<v Speaker 1>talk about China a little bit like remember when we've

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<v Speaker 1>had previous examples when Chinese jets throw a whole bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of garbage into the air that could well down an

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<v Speaker 1>Australian jet. But didn't know about that until after the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister had returned from an APEC meeting where he's

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<v Speaker 1>shaking hands with the Chinese president. Because we couldn't air

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<v Speaker 1>upset the Chinese establishment. Thankfully, there is an alternative, an

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<v Speaker 1>alternative approach. And Andrew Hasty would be the Defense Minister

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<v Speaker 1>in a potential alternative government led by Peter Dutton. Compare

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<v Speaker 1>the pair, as they say.

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<v Speaker 9>This is gun boat diplomacy designed to test our alliance

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<v Speaker 9>with the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty disgraceful, Pretty disgraceful. All right, let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>the jobs now scenario, where let's have a chat about

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<v Speaker 1>the unemployment numbers that have come on today. They show

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<v Speaker 1>us that, yes, the unemployment rate is slightly up. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's compare things to of course, the government that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you everything's great now compared to when they

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<v Speaker 1>first took over. Well, the unemployment rate in the early

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<v Speaker 1>months of the Prime ministership of Anthony Alberaneze was three

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<v Speaker 1>point five percent. It is now four point one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty three thousand people lost their job in January. More

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<v Speaker 1>people ended up being able to get a job, but

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three thousand people lost their job in the month

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<v Speaker 1>of January. According to the ABS, forty four thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>found a job in January. Twenty three thousand people became unemployed.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's always data inside the data. They're generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't cover on the six PM news because they think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>one fact every four minutes, please the rest of it

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<v Speaker 1>just adjectives and emotion. The unde employment rate. Now, remember

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia, to be counted as an employed person and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to work for just one hour a week,

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<v Speaker 1>so six percent currently are under employed for minutes five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a look at that percentage when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to women. And then remember when Anthony Abernezi made quite

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<v Speaker 1>the noise and the lead up to the last election,

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<v Speaker 1>and we remember because we were all there, that people

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<v Speaker 1>having to work more than one job to make ends

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<v Speaker 1>meet was a sign of how tough people were doing

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<v Speaker 1>it well. In March of twenty twenty two it was

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and fifty six thousand people. It is now

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and eighty six thousand people. Those were the

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<v Speaker 1>latest numbers which were at leased very late last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are noticing the great gulf between the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>that may be released in Canberra, the reality on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and the numbers within the numbers. As the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister and Treasurer pat themselves on the back getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go into this election, one of the economics writers

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<v Speaker 1>at the Channel nine newspapers made a good point about

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<v Speaker 1>productivity that this is a real problem for Australia right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Put simply, if life is a highway, then Australia is

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in second year. I even liked the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>AI image that they came up with. I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>why Peter Dutton, who's not in a decision making position,

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<v Speaker 1>is put there, because obviously we couldn't dare upset the

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<v Speaker 1>dear Prime Minister. But there it is. Anyway, We've become

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<v Speaker 1>a Volkswagen bus, as some fly past in their Lamborghinis.

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<v Speaker 1>Nations such as the United States, Germany, Belgium and Spain

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<v Speaker 1>have all improved their productivity levels over the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, but Australia has gone backwards. He offers an

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<v Speaker 1>example that was quoted by the Productivity Commission, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is about building a house. About how long it now

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<v Speaker 1>takes to build a house in a quarter of the

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<v Speaker 1>way into the twenty first century versus a little while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>A decade ago, the average time it took to build

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<v Speaker 1>a detached house for six point four months. It is

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<v Speaker 1>now ten point four months. The time to build a

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<v Speaker 1>new townhouse gone from nine point four to twelve point nine.

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<v Speaker 1>An apartment block has gone from eighteen months to now

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven months. He concludes his piece Shane right today

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<v Speaker 1>that if we continue down the economic freeway at the

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<v Speaker 1>current pace, we will never reach our preferred destination and

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<v Speaker 1>our kids, stuck in the back seat of the Australian Jealopy,

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<v Speaker 1>will be asking the perpetual question aren't we there yet?

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have just become citizens of Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and will in the next couple of days now. The

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Telegraph today had the story that Tony Burke has

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<v Speaker 1>taken citizenship ceremonies out of the hands of many local

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<v Speaker 1>councils and is pumping hundreds of people, nay thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>people who will become full fledged Australian citizens in the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of days. The Daily Telegraph can reveal that

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<v Speaker 1>mister Burke's department has gone on an industrial style, industrial scale

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship ex travaganza. Remember, all of this is full voting

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<v Speaker 1>rights to give twelve and a half thousand new Australians,

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<v Speaker 1>says citizenship papers in time to vote at the upcoming election.

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<v Speaker 1>Western Sydney mayors are furious on Thursday that mister Burke's

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<v Speaker 1>department took the upcoming ceremonies out of their hands to

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<v Speaker 1>confer citizenship. On six thousand people over the past couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days at Sydney Olympic Park. Now, for their part,

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<v Speaker 1>the Minister and his department have said that these are

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<v Speaker 1>people who have been waiting for many years. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not a rushing of people who have recently come to

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<v Speaker 1>the country as a result of the issues in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East. But Peter Dutton had this to say today

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<v Speaker 1>on the matter of this many people getting pushed through

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<v Speaker 1>just in time for an election.

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<v Speaker 9>Tony Burke is spending today and the rest of this week,

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<v Speaker 9>as I understand it, conducting as many citizenship ceremonies as

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<v Speaker 9>you can, literally putting thousands of people through an express

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<v Speaker 9>citizenship process so that they can in the election within

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<v Speaker 9>a few weeks, which I think is quite remarkable. And

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<v Speaker 9>I just question whether there has been any slackening of

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<v Speaker 9>the process, whether there has been any compromise on the

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<v Speaker 9>security checks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Minister in his office are offended at the suggestion,

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<v Speaker 1>and again via more friendly media have put forward the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that all of this is about clearing a backlog.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas Rees is the Lord Mayor of Melbourne. He too

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<v Speaker 1>has been a citizenship ceremonies today. I just will ask

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<v Speaker 1>him straight up if there's anything different, different timing, why

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<v Speaker 1>are things being rushed on at this moment. If he

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<v Speaker 1>has an answer, we'll all find out together, because he

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<v Speaker 1>is here this evening for tonight's debate. Now I have

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<v Speaker 1>the same moral clarity tonight as I did when we

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<v Speaker 1>learned of the October seven attacks back in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>the same moral clarity about the evil of Hamas, about

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<v Speaker 1>the disgrace of those amongst us who celebrate, celebrate what

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<v Speaker 1>took place on that horrible day, the many failures in

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<v Speaker 1>and around that opera house protest. Still so few people

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<v Speaker 1>have been held account And it's wonderful that politicians want

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<v Speaker 1>to say sorry, but hang on, you saw it coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Your police forces were the same ones who turned around

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<v Speaker 1>and said that they were overwhelmed. Your same police forces

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<v Speaker 1>have hardly been handing out the same level of charges

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<v Speaker 1>in relation to people at that event, which obviously was

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<v Speaker 1>about intimidating Australia's Jewish community as they mourned their dead

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<v Speaker 1>on that day. Now I say I have that same

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<v Speaker 1>moral clarity tonight because, as you will have heard both

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<v Speaker 1>with Shari and with Andrew before her, Hamas has returned

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<v Speaker 1>the remains of a murdered mother and murdered children, but

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<v Speaker 1>they chose to do so in the full glare of

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<v Speaker 1>the media. How can you not view this as the

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<v Speaker 1>parading of their bodies Previously, the people that have stood

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<v Speaker 1>on that stage are people who have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>return to their families. A dead family being returned to

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<v Speaker 1>a man who had left their captivity a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago reminds us of the rights and wrongs in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation. Now, it is true that I do not

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the situation in the Middle East every night.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many weeks that can pass before I remark

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<v Speaker 1>about what is happening on the other side of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't want anyone to ever think that that

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<v Speaker 1>is a way of ignoring it. No, it's because there

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<v Speaker 1>are other hosts, other programs that frankly cover it better

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<v Speaker 1>than I could, better than I can, with a greater

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<v Speaker 1>insight into what is taking place. But I've also, over

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<v Speaker 1>the many months, spoken about a human toll on both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of this situation. For that, I receive some criticism,

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<v Speaker 1>but I stand by it. But I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>very clear tonight that I have the same moral clarity

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<v Speaker 1>about the barbarism and the evil that is harmas as

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<v Speaker 1>I did on the day they chose to attack on

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<v Speaker 1>October seventh, because they paraded the bodies of a dead

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<v Speaker 1>mother and her kids. Today, as you know, is the

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<v Speaker 1>Anti Semitism Summit which took place on behalf of Sky

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<v Speaker 1>News in the Great Synagogue in Sydney. Incredible speeches, and

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<v Speaker 1>what I liked the most was that this was about

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<v Speaker 1>discussing how to deal with things into the future, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to speaking endlessly about the barbarism of what took

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<v Speaker 1>place on that horrific day. In the many many months since,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud that I work for an organization that had

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<v Speaker 1>the moral clarity to host what they hosted. I am

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<v Speaker 1>proud of the people who spoke, and I am proud

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<v Speaker 1>of the relentlessness of the focus in and around anti

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<v Speaker 1>Semitism that many people have had on the air. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>just in case there's any doubt in anyone's mind, just

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't lead the show with it or I

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<v Speaker 1>don't talk about it every couple of weeks does not

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<v Speaker 1>mean I am not absolutely aware of the rights and

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<v Speaker 1>wrongs here. I wish nothing but strength to the hand

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<v Speaker 1>of law enforcement to deal with this horrific behavior. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wish nothing more than a country that people are

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<v Speaker 1>born into or that they come to, is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that they love more than whatever historic connections people have

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<v Speaker 1>to the conflicts, with all of its complications, all of

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<v Speaker 1>its difficulties, all of its heartbreak. On other sides of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, you have a chance to reach art your

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<v Speaker 1>life in a country like this. It is something that

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<v Speaker 1>we assume is the case for anyone who comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the country, but for too many they seek to punish

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<v Speaker 1>those who have a connection to another country. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not acceptable, it is not appropriate, and many of the

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<v Speaker 1>speeches were quite phenomenal. Today now it cannot go without

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<v Speaker 1>saying that all and many. In fact, the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>the anti Semitic attacks have been happening in New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales have been happening in Sydney, and that is under

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<v Speaker 1>the watch of the New Southwil's premiere. And while they

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<v Speaker 1>need to do more, it is good to hear again

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<v Speaker 1>moral clarity from the people who have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>change laws and focus our police.

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<v Speaker 4>It was appalling to see the hateful scenes on the

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<v Speaker 4>steps of the Sydney Opera House one day after October seventh,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can tell you. I'm deeply ashamed that it

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<v Speaker 4>happened under my watch as premier of this state.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what I also really liked about the summit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it in its entirety. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do so by going to skynews dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au. Also check out all of the supplementary

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<v Speaker 1>channels depending on how you watch us, be a Flash

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<v Speaker 1>or Foxtel, or there'll be plenty of stuff up on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube as well. I like that this was forward looking.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked that this was about a series of key

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<v Speaker 1>points and a plan for action about how to take

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<v Speaker 1>these things on. Now. There were multiple these are the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that stood out to me. That there should be

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<v Speaker 1>a declaration of a national emergency on antisemitism. This would

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<v Speaker 1>trigger a collection of things in and around a joint

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<v Speaker 1>counter Terrorism Task Force. That we should have uniform policing guidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>including training for law enforcement officials and understanding antisemitism and

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<v Speaker 1>how hate crimes should be prosecuted. That anti Semitism education

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<v Speaker 1>should be included into the national curriculum. Justice. Michael Lee's

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<v Speaker 1>speeching and around that was fascinating. There should be more

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<v Speaker 1>public awareness and advertising campaigns, particularly towards younger Australians aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at debunking the ideology of antisemitism. There should be a

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<v Speaker 1>national ban on encampments at Australing universities, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>prohibiting the disruption of lectures by protests. There should be

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<v Speaker 1>a creation of a judicial inquiry into antisemitism at our universities.

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<v Speaker 1>There should be a repeal of charity status and funding

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<v Speaker 1>from religious or charitable institutions if they promote racism or

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<v Speaker 1>display terrorist symbols. And finally that the Migration Act should

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<v Speaker 1>be enforced or amended to ensure that antisemitic conduct is

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<v Speaker 1>a grounds to reject a new visl or cancel and

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<v Speaker 1>existing one. It is complicated. It is difficult for those

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<v Speaker 1>of us that have been lucky enough to be born

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<v Speaker 1>here and not to have the weight of the connections

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<v Speaker 1>back to this difficult part of the world. There are

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<v Speaker 1>times when yep, we're aware of it, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>other things that will come across our plate. But well

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<v Speaker 1>done to everyone involved in what happened today, and to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who wants to practice this sort of garbage. You

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<v Speaker 1>are not amongst us, you are not for us. And

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to any and every way that this

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<v Speaker 1>garbage can be rid. Now let's talk about local government here,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the Casey Council which is on the outskirts of Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this happened a couple of days ago, so forgive me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a lot in the intray this week and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get this done before we go off

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<v Speaker 1>to Batement's Bay on Sunday Monday and then off to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby well, police police needed to be called by the

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<v Speaker 1>council because they are afraid of their rate players. What rubbish,

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<v Speaker 1>What absolute crap. Now, this council, which has been run

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<v Speaker 1>by an administrator, an unelected person as opposed to an

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:58.200
<v Speaker 1>elected mayor or council for the past few years, has

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<v Speaker 1>made some ridiculous decision, including ones where people are being

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<v Speaker 1>told that they need a permit where they need to

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<v Speaker 1>pay for the right to be able to store an

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<v Speaker 1>old boat or a car that you're fixing up in

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<v Speaker 1>your front yard. Now, of course, it's just another money

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 1>grab from a council that won't cut its own wings,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. If I went onto their jobs vacant tonight

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<v Speaker 1>and I did the same thing I do every time

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<v Speaker 1>these stories, there'd be plenty of examples of a stupid

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money being spent on things where they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to go off and try to introduce fines or

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<v Speaker 1>licenses for you to be able to have a car

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<v Speaker 1>up on the blocks because you're going to slowly strip

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<v Speaker 1>it down for small parts and spare parts, because the

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<v Speaker 1>one you've actually been tinkering with is your dream project

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<v Speaker 1>and that's been in the garage for the past five

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<v Speaker 1>or six years. God forbid, that's what people want to

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<v Speaker 1>do with their days. I'm sick of this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>snobbery that there's a certain type of Australian activity that's acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a certain sort of thing that is approved of

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<v Speaker 1>or not approved of by the ear oh so lovely

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<v Speaker 1>ones about what you can do with your land. Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Dowsley is the report from Channel seven, who will explain

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<v Speaker 1>part of what this is all about.

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<v Speaker 10>The meeting was adjourned then abandoned as residents raged about

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<v Speaker 10>controversial by laws requiring paid permits for residents to keep

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<v Speaker 10>some vehicles on their properties, which prompted the seizure of

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<v Speaker 10>three cars from one property.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a caravan, a caravan under the car port.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not interfering, but it's not parked out in the street. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. There are some people who think you

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<v Speaker 1>can park whatever you want out in the front of

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<v Speaker 1>your house, like out on the road. Well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>that's public. I can just whack it on them. At No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about people in their own zone of property.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there's also a decision about a tip in and

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<v Speaker 1>around the area. And guess what the locals had had

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<v Speaker 1>enough at computer, theft NAE, computer, theF NAE or politicians

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<v Speaker 1>who want to pretend, oh, I'm not really our fault,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact of course it's their responsibility.

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<v Speaker 10>Rowdy rate payers hit back face to face with the council.

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<v Speaker 10>They say, isn't listening. The angry confrontation erupted last night

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<v Speaker 10>of the City of Casey officers in Narry Warren. New

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<v Speaker 10>mayor Stephen Kerman shouted down repeatedly heckled, please remain seated,

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<v Speaker 10>Please remain quiet. Police called to escort counselors from the room.

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<v Speaker 1>What garbage call the police. They're hardly surging towards the counselors.

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<v Speaker 1>They're standing up and saying boom. It will not surprise

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<v Speaker 1>you that the mayor will have no interest in talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Paul or any of the other media.

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<v Speaker 10>After this thing, the new mayor wouldn't speak on camera today,

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<v Speaker 10>instead releasing a statement saying he was incredibly disappointed with

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<v Speaker 10>last night's threatening behavior, adding I Understan there is a

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<v Speaker 10>real frustration over the past five years under administration. We're

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<v Speaker 10>looking forward to listening and representing our community. However, last

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<v Speaker 10>night's behavior is not the way to go about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talking to people in this way just it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the way, like as if they're the school principal speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of a kid mucking up in year five.

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<v Speaker 1>These people pay their rates, they've bought their house, they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying off the house, they're renting the house. Leave them alone,

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<v Speaker 1>goodness sake. Now, I told you that we would have

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<v Speaker 1>something in a couple of days in and around the

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<v Speaker 1>North Queensland flood situation, and we have had plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>people get in touch with us about the problems they

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<v Speaker 1>are having with insurance companies. Now, Lauren Forbes is the

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<v Speaker 1>reporter who was there when the rain was coming down,

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<v Speaker 1>when the flood waters were taking their toll, and she

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<v Speaker 1>now returns to this story about insurance companies screwing the

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<v Speaker 1>very people over who should be getting maximum help because

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<v Speaker 1>they've paid for it.

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<v Speaker 11>Ingham is still homes gutted, businesses and farms wiped out,

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<v Speaker 11>as many are left wondering how they'll recover.

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<v Speaker 6>As things are clearing and the weeks are passing, I

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<v Speaker 6>guess it comes to light that people are still struggling

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<v Speaker 6>with that emotional financial impact of the disaster.

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<v Speaker 11>For Marian's brother, Vince Blanco, the disaster has been life changing.

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<v Speaker 11>His cane farm, passed down from his father, was swallowed

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<v Speaker 11>by floodwaters. His belongings left as a pile on the roadside,

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<v Speaker 11>basically lost everything, and it's how to rebuild that without

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<v Speaker 11>any funding, without any support. It was only after the

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<v Speaker 11>event that Vince discovered his insurance doesn't cover floods and

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<v Speaker 11>he doesn't have the means to pay off a disaster

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<v Speaker 11>assistance loan.

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<v Speaker 6>My brother wasn't aware that it wasn't included in his package,

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<v Speaker 6>So I guess from that perspective, it's you know, it's devastating.

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<v Speaker 11>It's a problem many far in the region of facing any.

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<v Speaker 7>Home and content policy that forms part of a broader

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<v Speaker 7>farm insurance policy, they tend not to have flood cover.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not that it's just not available. Insurance just

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<v Speaker 7>aren't offering it.

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<v Speaker 11>And for those who can access it, skyrocketing premiums mean

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<v Speaker 11>full coverage is often out of reach.

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<v Speaker 7>People can't afford to ensure their house for the full

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<v Speaker 7>replacement value, so they've ensured it for what they can.

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<v Speaker 7>So an example, you've got the house that the rebuild

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<v Speaker 7>costs of this house is say eight hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 7>in today's money to completely level it and rebuild it

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<v Speaker 7>as it was. People are ensuring them for three hundred

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<v Speaker 7>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 11>So far, more than seven thousand, one hundred insurance claims

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<v Speaker 11>have been made in North Queensland. In the hinton Brookshire

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<v Speaker 11>there's been nearly one thousand home claims lodged, two hundred

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<v Speaker 11>and eighty two for vehicles and one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 11>one for businesses. But the cyclone reinsurance pool, which is

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<v Speaker 11>meant to bring premiums down, wasn't activated.

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<v Speaker 12>We're not seeing any benefit coming through it now. We've

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<v Speaker 12>had two cyclones in the last twelve months and luckily

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<v Speaker 12>fortunately there was no extensive damage or anything of that nature,

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<v Speaker 12>and we're very grateful that. But people who did make

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<v Speaker 12>a claim you are saying, well, there really is no different.

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<v Speaker 11>Hinchinbrookshire and Mayor Raymond jo says funding for this disaster

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<v Speaker 11>has fallen short compared to past events.

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<v Speaker 12>All the industry bodies and all the business associations that

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<v Speaker 12>are telling us that they require further assistance. One of

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<v Speaker 12>the other issues that there's also emerging is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>due to the high cost of living, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of pressure in that regard, so you know, just just

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<v Speaker 12>the material costs and the labor costs and all that

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<v Speaker 12>have risen exponentially.

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<v Speaker 11>He's calling for action before the next disaster, pushing for

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<v Speaker 11>government red tape to be removed to clear waterways.

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<v Speaker 12>You know, our inability to clean our streams, our streams

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<v Speaker 12>that are out of the water. Once it comes out

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<v Speaker 12>of the river, it's got to get to the ocean,

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<v Speaker 12>and it's got to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>The mangrove interface.

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<v Speaker 12>And we've been really struggling over the past eight years

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<v Speaker 12>to get permits and approvals to go in there.

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<v Speaker 11>And clean as the regent bands together to rebuild locals,

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<v Speaker 11>so calling out for more support. Lauren Forbes Sky News.

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<v Speaker 1>Good on you, Lauren, and thank you for making that

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<v Speaker 1>for us. Well done. Know everyone who was reaching out,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to at any time, We'll do what

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<v Speaker 1>we can for you. Polotskynews dot com dot AU, Poulotsgynews

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<v Speaker 1>dot com dot A. You quick break back with more,

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to Nicholas Rees joining us, Lisa god Art

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>as well, who's the winter and Loser of the week,

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<v Speaker 1>and some big ideas about well going after graffiti in

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<v Speaker 1>the great city of Melbourne, But so much more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for watching this Thursday night, Hey, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for watching. Now we have got a massive mixed

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<v Speaker 1>sort of week and a bit here on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously our town on Sunday night, Bateman's Bay cannot wait,

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<v Speaker 1>really beautiful part of Australia. Looking forward to celebrating and

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<v Speaker 1>doing a whole bunch of really cool stuff, really cool stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday night is going to be the first of our

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<v Speaker 1>pub tests, where of course it is the people of

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the area that are able to ask their local candidates

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they want, all right, we don't stand in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of that process. It's really cool sort of politics

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>in the pub with TV cameras all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we're off to Las Vegas where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be just absolutely responsible and folk. Now we're there

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate rugby league and the fact that the start

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>of the rugby league season is there. Can't wait. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk to players and coaches and tell you

0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the fun, show you some of the stuff of the

0:34:35.560 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 1>city that I know like the back of my hand,

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, like I know the Gold Coast with my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes closed, and I know Vegas like the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my hand. Right, So we'll show you some of that

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<v Speaker 1>fun stuff. But I wanted to also say our plan

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<v Speaker 1>while we are overseas is we are still going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing Australian political conversation. Okay, You're still going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the editorial, You're still going to get the guests,

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>plus all of the fun in and around it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So stay for the met all right, and enjoy the

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>sizzle that's going to be around it. The same two

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<v Speaker 1>for the pub test and for our town. We will

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>be right across all of the stuff. And if anyone's

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>got used to our Sunday night hardcore shows, well I

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>will make sure that you get to hear it all first,

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:15.320
<v Speaker 1>and then as you start to hear it across the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the week and go hang on. Paul talked

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<v Speaker 1>about that on Sunday All right, let's get to this

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<v Speaker 1>right now with Well, it's been too long. Nicholas rees Is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the Lord Mayor, the Lord Mayor of Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the little badge, he's got the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the chains, he's got the moon but kings.

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<v Speaker 1>He's there joining us in Melbourne. And the wonderful Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>Goddard who just you know, with that smile, she can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever the hell she wants in Brisbane and beautiful Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get to this here, Nick. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about an idea which was one we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about when you were campaigning. Now it's action, which is,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what if you do graffiti in the beautiful streets

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<v Speaker 1>of Melbourne, not the lane ways where they sometimes let you,

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<v Speaker 1>but the place is where they don't let you do it,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Paul, you back on the show mate. You're right,

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<v Speaker 13>it has been too long, and your memory is good.

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<v Speaker 13>You will recall I came on the program prior to

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<v Speaker 13>the election. I said, if I'm elected, no one's going

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<v Speaker 13>to go harder on city safety and city cleaning than me.

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<v Speaker 13>And that's what I am damn well doing. So in

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<v Speaker 13>terms of city cleaning, got a whole new fleet of

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<v Speaker 13>vehicles out there. We throw out the old clapped out

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<v Speaker 13>vacuum cleaner, we brought in the high powered dison cleaning

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<v Speaker 13>the streets up with new vehicles. And then we're going really,

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<v Speaker 13>really hard using all the powers available to us to

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<v Speaker 13>ensure that if you spray, you pay the City of Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 13>So we will take an activist approach in the courts.

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<v Speaker 13>We will send legal representation from the City of Melbourne

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<v Speaker 13>and pursue vandals the taggers for cost orders for the

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<v Speaker 13>damage that they're causing. We will also work with the

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<v Speaker 13>state government because they need their help on this to

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<v Speaker 13>make sure that people clean up their mess and they

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<v Speaker 13>do it in the area where they create it. So

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<v Speaker 13>I've got it issue in Melbourne where people come in

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<v Speaker 13>from the suburbs tag and deface the central city and

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<v Speaker 13>then if the courts do catch up with them, they

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<v Speaker 13>do their time, they're clean up out in the suburbs.

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<v Speaker 13>I want them to come into the city and clean

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<v Speaker 13>up the damn well mess that they created. Third thing

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<v Speaker 13>we're going to do is, and this sounds like a

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<v Speaker 13>small thing, but it's really important, is we're going to

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<v Speaker 13>put in victim impact statements on behalf of property owners

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<v Speaker 13>properties damage as well as the community. This idea that

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<v Speaker 13>tagging vandalism is a victimless crime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not.

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<v Speaker 13>We're paying for it, ratepayers, taxpayers paying millions to clean

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<v Speaker 13>it up, and the city, the community is suffering for

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<v Speaker 13>loss in pride in our town, in our city. So

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<v Speaker 13>I'm going hard, I set a would and I'm getting

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<v Speaker 13>it done.

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<v Speaker 1>See, Lisa, this is why we back him right. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't agree much on politics. Occasionally, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a cross word every now and then

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<v Speaker 1>about the big idea.

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<v Speaker 13>We had some fun times over the years, Paul, Mrtray,

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<v Speaker 13>We had some fun times.

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<v Speaker 1>At any time you want to come in during the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three days of the election campaign, all bits are

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<v Speaker 1>off there. There'll be no kid glass. You get right

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<v Speaker 1>in there. That'll be fun. It's the invitation is always there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is extraordinary that again for Nick, and power

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<v Speaker 1>to him. Right, we're a quarter of the way through

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty first century, and that's when you have the

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<v Speaker 1>leadership that's willing to do what Nick's willing to do.

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<v Speaker 14>Here, Nicholas rees, congratulations and Hallelulia, may you lead the

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<v Speaker 14>way for politicians who will actually do what they say

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<v Speaker 14>they will do when they get into office, and may

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<v Speaker 14>every mayor around this country actually listen to what you're

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<v Speaker 14>doing and follow in your footpath. Because I did some

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<v Speaker 14>research tonight Queensland aligned So if you look at Queensland Rail,

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<v Speaker 14>it's over a million dollars a year just to clean

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<v Speaker 14>up the graffiti on the trains alone. So you're right,

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<v Speaker 14>it's taxpayers. It's us rate payers who are paying to

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<v Speaker 14>clean up this mess. And it's about time that the

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 14>magistrates are held to account and they actually have these

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<v Speaker 14>people in front of them charge and look, I know

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<v Speaker 14>that what the finds Nicholas will way around seven hundred

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<v Speaker 14>to eight hundred dollars of their court. So that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 14>But we need to see the courts now backing you in.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I get creative as well? Nick? I think the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are guilty of this stuff should have to

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<v Speaker 1>park your please for you you know, why not. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's let just say as part of your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you drive into Melbourne, you know, you just

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>turn around, you go into one of those parking stations

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<v Speaker 1>and somewhere and no, no, no, I well, actually hand, I

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 1>really shouldn't have thought that through otherwise, Yeah, they might anyway, anyway,

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you get the idea, You get the idea. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk here some basic moral principles here, isn't it Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent correct. All right, Let's talk about something

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>which popped up at the ARC conference happening over in

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom, which is plenty of people talking about

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 1>governments that grossly overspend for the here and now, which

0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>is always political, but of course the reality into the

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>future is that they put their countries deeper into debt.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:46.839
<v Speaker 1>The harder it is to service that debt means well,

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not able to spend money on the things that

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>they are paying tax for into the future. Perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>about this, Lisa, would be say what the Queensland government

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<v Speaker 1>with the credit rating in Queensland that's now been downgraded,

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>which means it is more expensive to pay on the

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>stupid spending of the previous government. Good on Peter Costello

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<v Speaker 1>for standing up today and saying here that governments have

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<v Speaker 1>to rain in their spindings otherwise it's a problem for

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<v Speaker 1>future generations.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, and if you look at Queensland, Paul, it's spending

0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 14>to win votes, and look, it didn't work this time around,

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 14>but we're still left with increased debt. So you're right,

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<v Speaker 14>you just can't keep racking up and racking up the debt.

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 14>I've heard you say it before your homeowners and anyone

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 14>who sitting around with a credit card or a mortgage.

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 14>You just can't overspend. You have to stay within that budget.

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<v Speaker 14>And the governments just simply aren't doing it. And if

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<v Speaker 14>you look at what between twenty six and twenty seven,

0:40:35.760 --> 0:40:38.400
<v Speaker 14>they're predicting that we'll have over a trillion dollars in

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.760
<v Speaker 14>gross debts. So when you look at what the interest

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 14>rates are, interest payments are on that alone within four years,

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:48.080
<v Speaker 14>it's thirty five billion dollars in interest payments alone on

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 14>our national debt. So they have to rein it in.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.840
<v Speaker 14>Unfortunately we're heading into a federal election. They'll be throwing

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<v Speaker 14>around the sugar hits everywhere.

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just double checking here, and the Stralian supporting

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.839
<v Speaker 1>legend has passed a message to Nick. I'll double check

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 1>it because sometimes there might be the odd swear word

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>in it, but I will gladly pass it on for you,

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.600
<v Speaker 1>great man. In a moment or two's time, all right,

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Clyde Palmer here, Nick, so clide Palmer

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 1>is able to operate under the old rules, not the

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>new ones, which means he's of course in with his

0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>new party. If he does the advertising spend and directs

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 1>it message wise the way they did against Bill Shorten,

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:26.279
<v Speaker 1>that's really good for Peter Dutton. If it's bugging them

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>all like they did in twenty twenty two, that ultimately

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>ends up being good for Anthony Obernezi. So until you

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>see the first ad, how do you feel about Palmer

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five?

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, look, I think his political strategies he's going

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 13>to try and take the Donald Trump formula, roll it

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 13>out here in Australia and he's going to go after

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 13>Peter Dutton and the Liberals, so he doesn't think are

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 13>conservative enough. I suspect he'll blow a whole lot of money,

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.840
<v Speaker 13>probably harm the electoral chances of the Liberal National Party

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 13>and won't get much of an outcome. I mean, remember

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 13>that brilliant IKEA ad about Clive Palmer's campaign. They sort

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 13>of had Clive Palmer one hundred million dollars one seat,

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:12.279
<v Speaker 13>IKEA one hundred dollars one seat. What delivers your better value.

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 13>It's just a massive, massive waste of his money. Look

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 13>at his money. And it's a democracy, so he's allowed

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 13>to do it, sadly under the old rules. But look,

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:24.440
<v Speaker 13>I think it's going to be him trying to get

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 13>everyone to look at him, and I'm not sure it's

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 13>going to be a great thing for the voters of Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Lisa, Look, the media companies love love

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Clive Palmer. Why because of course he's paying them right,

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 1>so they're all very happy. But his message and what

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>it is is going to be the indication of its

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.200
<v Speaker 1>effect when it comes to the election. Look, I think

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the poles are overcooked, saying you know Dunton

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and the Libs at seventy three seats. I don't think

0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the case. I think the Freshwater one was a

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.239
<v Speaker 1>little closer. We we're sort of talking about an exchange

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>of Labor losing seven the Coalition winning ten, and that

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:00.719
<v Speaker 1>basically puts Labor in the position of the minority. That's

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>where I think it's going to end up. But nothing

0:43:02.920 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>is inevitable, and I certainly want a different outcome than that.

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>But in these ads, he has an opportunity to punch

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>harder than anyone else in the field. Now he's already

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 1>said that he's a direct about two genders. He's directed

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>about many of the things that are quite trumpy in

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>But obviously if he actually decides to aim at all

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>at Anthony Albanezi, well then that's going to help Peter

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>it Dutton, isn't it?

0:43:27.640 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 14>Well it is, And look, in no way is this

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 14>about Clive Palmer getting bums on seats in Parliament, because

0:43:33.120 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 14>we know that's not going to happen. As Nicholas said,

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 14>one hundred million dollars, He's got one Senate seats, so

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 14>it's not about that. And look, as a aside, he

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 14>then has to go and try and find these candidates,

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 14>So I don't know where he's going to find those,

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 14>but that's a whole other story. But you're right, this

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 14>is about disruption. This is about him capturing that part

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.720
<v Speaker 14>of Australia. There's watching what's happening in America and saying

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.160
<v Speaker 14>we want that here. And as much as everybody is

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 14>pushing Peter Dutton at the moment, he isn't yet at

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 14>that point and I don't know if he will get there.

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 14>So what will fill avoid Clive Palmer all right, years

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 14>ago he was already talking about nuclear and so now

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:04.920
<v Speaker 14>the coalition is caught up on uclear.

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:05.560
<v Speaker 1>A really good point.

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 14>He'll now push, as you say, the two genders, so

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:12.240
<v Speaker 14>that will actually capture some of the voting electric out there.

0:44:12.400 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 14>So he will hold those tough conversations, as you say,

0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 14>the challenging ones that everyone sort of says, don't want

0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 14>to say it out loud, He will say it and

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 14>maybe that will push that public narrative and maybe that

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.360
<v Speaker 14>will push the coalition to come out harder.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll see. All right, take a quick break in

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a moment. Whom is the winner or loser of the week.

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>These lovely people from different parts of the country with

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a love of this show and its viewers will tell

0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>us more than see. May I give a little plag

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to my favorite sport in Australia which of course supercars.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Supercars is racing again new format where the first few

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 1>rounds is one version of the championship, then there's a finals,

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>the in Dua Cup. All of that. They're in Sydney

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. The first race is actually going to be

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:02.320
<v Speaker 1>on a Friday. There's one on Saturday, and Sunday as well.

0:45:02.640 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>What about that supercars going across the Harbor Bridge. You

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>can check it all out Fox Sports channel five oh six,

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.879
<v Speaker 1>on Foxtel KO or anywhere else. And yes you'll hear

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:14.080
<v Speaker 1>me cheering on from Bateman's Bay. Cannot wait to watch

0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it all. And good luck to Jess Mark and all

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.919
<v Speaker 1>of the team. Now let's get into the conversation right

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<v Speaker 1>now with Lisa Goddard. Adoni Media is her company in

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Brisbane and the company of strangers is what happens when

0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you are the Lord Mayor of Melbourne, which means just

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, his flock are those he knows and does

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>not the wonderful Nicholas Race. So what about the Chief

0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Justice or a significant Yeah, chief Justice in the Northern

0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Territory today who well, I don't know whether they're blowing

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 1>up or complaining, but basically saying the tough on crime

0:45:42.200 --> 0:45:44.760
<v Speaker 1>approach of the new government, it's clogging up the courts.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:51.320
<v Speaker 1>There's not enough room. I don't care, Lisa, Yeah.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:52.640
<v Speaker 14>No nor do I. And look you had the chief

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 14>bitterester from the Northern Territory on was it last week?

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Paul?

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<v Speaker 14>Yes, she is incredible and she is one of the

0:45:58.200 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 14>best I think in this country, because she's actually going

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 14>out there and setting an agenda where she's saying, you know,

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:07.320
<v Speaker 14>safety matters. She wants the juvenile offenders particularly under control,

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.799
<v Speaker 14>and she doesn't care that she's got the police out there.

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 14>The morale amongst the police force now is up because

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.280
<v Speaker 14>they're actually able to do their job and put these

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 14>alleged crems in front of the court. And I'm sorry

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 14>if the court can't handle that and they think it's

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 14>too busy for them, well that's not a problem that

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.839
<v Speaker 14>the general community who are out there dealing with the

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.240
<v Speaker 14>thugs who are beating them up, breaking into their homes,

0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.480
<v Speaker 14>breaking into their businesses, will care about what they need

0:46:30.520 --> 0:46:33.319
<v Speaker 14>to do. And thankfully somebody has extra money has gone

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 14>into the prosecution and into the defenders for the people

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.799
<v Speaker 14>who can't afford lawyers. However, they need to now look

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 14>at what's happening with the presents. That's their next sort

0:46:42.960 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 14>of pressure point, making sure that they've got places to

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 14>put these alleged defenders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and look, they should be stayed run, not privatized.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Not a huge fan of privatized to prisons. A lot

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>of issues in around that around the world, nick one

0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>last one we go here, which is George the Fifth's statue.

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 1>The head was ripped off, the head turned it up

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>on a barbecue. Some smart ass somewhere thinking this is

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 1>some sort of wonderful point to be made. But these statues,

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's plenty of them. I know, you want

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>to add to them with you, you know, let's get

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>gender equality and all the rest of it with your

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 1>statues lead recovery. But what should the response be when

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 1>people do things like this?

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, so look, I mean I do think we can

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:28.800
<v Speaker 13>have a debate as a society about you know, statues

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 13>and memorials, so we can have an adult conversation about

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:37.319
<v Speaker 13>these things. But it is never acceptable to deface statues,

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:41.080
<v Speaker 13>decapitate them, you know, spray them in red paint, salt,

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 13>looks like blood saw them down, as been the case

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 13>with Captain Cook here in Melbourne. And so look, we've

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 13>got a pretty clear policy at the City of Melbourne.

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 13>We repair and we reinstates. So we recently reinstated a

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.560
<v Speaker 13>statue of Captain Cook which had been sworn down in

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:02.400
<v Speaker 13>the treasury regards new steel reinforced in there. We don't

0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 13>know who the culprits are with this King George decapitation,

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.800
<v Speaker 13>but I know the police are hot on the trail there.

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 13>And again I'm open to a debate on these things,

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 13>but I will never ever reward the damaging of statues

0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 13>by saying, Okay, well, because it was damaged, we're just

0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 13>going to leave it down like we will always reinstate,

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 13>because we're not going to reward bad behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>Just thinking out, perhaps we should electrify them and see

0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>what happens. Kidding, kidding, relax complained to someone else somewhere else, or.

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<v Speaker 13>With CCTV aroun around all our cameras, which is a

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 13>sad state of the world. We're in the parks. There's

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 13>now all CCTV monitoring statues because it's become a thing, right,

0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 13>people attacking these memorials and statues.

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<v Speaker 1>Or I've got thirty seconds, which means fifteen for each

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of you, which means treat at late ten win are

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>a loser of the week, Lisa loser.

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<v Speaker 14>Mark Drayphus today at the summit, and starting with the

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 14>booing that he got there and how he delivered that

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 14>speech was appalling. Winner of the week. If you listen

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 14>to Jim Chalmers, have to be all of the Australians

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 14>who have a mortgage and the great huge cut we've

0:49:03.560 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 14>had in interest rates one hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, all right, Nicholas, you're going to

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a loser, mate.

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 13>Oh look, I'm just going to go for a loser.

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:15.800
<v Speaker 13>Donald Trump. You know what he said about Zelenski in Ukraine.

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 13>I mean, the facts are the facts. Russia started that war,

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 13>not Ukraine, and Zelenski was democratically elected. It was despicable

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:27.759
<v Speaker 13>what Trump said. No four D chess going on, absolutely despicable.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good stuff, Thank you very much. Do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor future mayor former mayors and anyone else who's watching

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Thank you very much. We'll see you're in

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<v Speaker 1>Batman's babe. But remember we're focused on the news while

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>having the fun as well. We've got a massive couple

0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.319
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ahead. Join us for every night. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to love it.