1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: It fits in with Kate podcast. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 3: That doesn't impress me. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 4: Are you are you a Brad Pitt fan? Do you 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 4: think he's a bit of all right? 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: Have you met him? 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 5: Kate? 8 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: No? 9 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: No, if it's in I have hung out with Brad 10 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 3: a couple of times, haven't we made. 11 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: We were not one on one. 12 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 5: We've got a red carpet with him, and that's hanging out. 13 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: That's not being his friend. He wouldn't remember you. 14 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: We did an interview and remember that he looked back 15 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: back at our fits and sort of not as if 16 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 3: to say, should we get a skilly after this? 17 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: He didn't, He didn't. Unfortunately he didn't. He is. 18 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 5: I watched again the other day Kate Once upon a 19 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 5: Time in Hollywood with him and Leonardo, and the scene 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 5: where he's on the roof, working on the roof with 21 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 5: his top off and a pair of jeans. 22 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 3: Still got it. 23 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 5: There has to be a deficiency. Are you going to 24 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 5: go into a deficiency of Brad Pitt here? 25 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: Because look I have found over the last few years, 26 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: of course, and like everybody watched the divorce of Brad 27 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: and and and then the subsequent court proceedings and the 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: messy Yeah, and I think there's been a lot of 29 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: mud slung at Brad. It's not for me to say 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: whether it's true or not, but I mean some people 31 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: can get away with certain well they shouldn't be able to. 32 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Let's be very clear, world, it's not fair. 33 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 4: But you can't forget that he's a pretty hot stuff. 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 4: And that's what I want to talk about, the swaning, 35 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: because apparently he has a. 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: Filthy little habit. 37 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: And I don't know whether this would put you off 38 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: Brad or not, but it didn't surprise me. His old mate, 39 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 4: old cast mate, Jason Priestley. I'm not sure what they 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 4: worked together on, but they did actually live together in 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: a flat many years ago, before even Brad was famous. 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: He turned up in you know, I guess Hollywood. They're 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: all not doing very well at these this stage. So 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 4: there's three people in an apartment sharing. Jason Priestley comes 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: home one day and it happens to be Brad Pitt 46 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 4: before his Brad Pit. They got on like a house 47 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 4: on fire, the way Jason tells the stories that they 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: you know, these were the days where they drank generic 49 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: beer and smoked Marlborough lights and they were just hanging 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: out that's yeah, the boys But apparently Brad doesn't shower 51 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: very much, and. 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: That was the big reveal Jason was talking on this podcast, 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: and I don't know. 54 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 4: I think that one thing about Brad that is kind 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 4: of attractive is that he's a bit. 56 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: Rough around the edges. 57 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: I mean, you can see him in his tuxedo on 58 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: the red carpet, and he does scrub. 59 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: Up very well, he still looks a bit unwashed. 60 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 4: Well, like you're saying in that movie fits that kind 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 4: of slightly sweaty, unwashed, kind of almost greasy hair. 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it is hotter. I'm not a 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: big fan of. 64 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 5: What are you talking about? 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: Fight club as well? 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 5: Remember he got into a fight. 67 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: Remember his face was. 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 5: Full of blood and he still looked hotter. 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: Okay, how long does he go without us? 70 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: Jason? Days and days? 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: And that's what Jason I mean to add to the 72 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: Boys Club. It was a bit like who's not you know, 73 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: who's not who's not showering? Which one can win the 74 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,119 Speaker 4: medal this week of Jason and Brad in the apartment, 75 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 4: I'm not going. 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: To have It's okay to look a little unwashed and 77 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: still be handsome. The way Brad pitt Is. You just 78 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: don't want that Betty smell. You know when you see 79 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: those people seat nobody who loves who loves. 80 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,119 Speaker 1: That ky And that's what we were the cave. Mean, 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: this is the thing. 82 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 5: It was the aroma that attracted the female to the male. 83 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: No, no, no, that in twenty four ten. Tell us 84 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: what you think. 85 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: But I think there's a difference between looking a bit unwashed, 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: maybe a bit body odery, but in a kind of 87 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: I've been working really hard to like catch you dinner, 88 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: then the lying in the bed like what a what 89 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: a teenage boy or men in their their early twenties. 90 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 4: You opened the door to their room and you're like 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 4: this it stinks of light, Yeah, despiration and playing with 92 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: their bodies. 93 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: Can I can I throw Priestly under the bus because 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 5: the interviewed him before he came Yeah, he came in 95 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: with pink eye. He had pinky It's not can you. 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: Back me up there? 97 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 5: Tom Do you remember. 98 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: That he did? 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 3: I got a photo next to Jason. He had pink 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: eye at the time. He was a bit shy about it, 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: wasn't he Tommy. He had sunglasses on them. We went 102 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 3: take your glasses off. He refused to take the glasses. 103 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 5: You're an idiot when it comes to hygiene, Kate, I 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 5: tell you what, I'd rather have a five day unwashed 105 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 5: brad Pit than a pinky stinking that's some bloke who's 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 5: who's obviously not washing himself. 107 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: Can we felt out then, how long you're going without 108 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: a shower? 109 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be. And whether you think you're still attractive? 110 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: Are you're still picking up like if you had to 111 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: be luck after not showering for a week. 112 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 4: And I've got a story to about somebody that I 113 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: used to work with who was who was a bit 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 4: up this brad pit. 115 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Really well, I mean, I'll leave that up to you, Belinda. 116 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: Thanks fits Belinda in BONDI what do you think about 117 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: this not showering business? 118 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: Good morning everybody. I think it's rather a turn on 119 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: My husband's Greek and he's been doing a brad pickway 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 2: before Brad Pitt invented it. 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 5: Belinda, is he is he more of a bo kind 122 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 5: of a rhema? So does he go out to work 123 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: all day and come home with that strong bo? 124 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: Is that fragrance? 125 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 5: Yes? 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: It's under the arms and when he lists there's just 127 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: this beastly manly smell that blind and he's in construction. 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: So he comes sat and he can build. And the 129 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: day the man can do more than build cake. 130 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: The day the outside of you are and hand home. 131 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 5: If he's a Greek man, Belinda, is he hairy shoulders, 132 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 5: hairy back? Is he everywhere? 133 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: No, he's not one of those hairy apes. 134 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: Does he smell like garlic as well? Belinda? 135 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: I do use garlic. 136 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: A good cook, aren't you, Belinda? And you feed him 137 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 4: up and you look after him at the end of 138 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: the day. 139 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: Remember I come over from real cake. 140 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: You're just up the right. 141 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: Hey, Belinda, can I ask what is the longest he's 142 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 3: been without a shower. 143 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: It's not really without a shower. He does shower. It's 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: just that he doesn't use the odor into under the arm. 145 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: So even though you shower, your stalk's got that smell 146 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: where Yeah, look at it. 147 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: I do get it from you. 148 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're lying on somebody's chest and you're like you 149 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: can smell them. 150 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: But proud though as well, when they're having a couple 151 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 5: of social drinks, it's she's proud to look around the 152 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 5: room and go that I know, I know that you're 153 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 5: actually you're getting quite disgusted by that spell. But that 154 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 5: smells mine. He's mine. 155 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, But she doesn't need to look around the room, 156 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: for she always knows where he is. 157 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Yes, she knows when he's gone up the hallway. 158 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: Two away, back left. 159 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: But the thing is, it's different when they are your 160 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: partner and you are somewhat attracted to them. When you 161 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: work with people, I think it's really different. I think 162 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: that there is a level of showering that comes with 163 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 4: being considerate to other. 164 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: People around around you. I had I. 165 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: Won't who they are, but probably fancied themselves as a 166 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 4: bit of a brad pitch right. 167 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: You know. 168 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: I worked with them on a show I did for 169 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: a few years television or radio, television. 170 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 5: This is awesome. 171 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: And he was one of these guys that just didn't 172 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: shower and almost wore wore it as a badge of 173 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: honor and happened. I mean, he might know, but Belinda 174 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: and her stinky husband in Bondai has lived around the 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 4: ocean and thought that if he had a shower, if 176 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 4: he had a swim in Bonday, that was enough. And 177 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: to the point where he had to be spoken to 178 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: and said, you know, you've really got to you've got 179 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 4: a shower and he said, well, I'm. 180 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: Having a swim in the ocean every day. 181 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: It was kind of like a bit natural to you know, 182 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 4: might not wear shoes. 183 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 5: You did work with hands with for a while. 184 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't care if Chris ever showered. Really, I mean, 185 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: let's put. 186 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: That one out to the ladies, and I think if 187 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: anyone get away without showing, it's Chris. But yeah, this 188 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: person just had to be advised that bathing in the 189 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 4: ocean was not enough and a cake of soap had 190 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: to be included. 191 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: Spoken to. 192 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Did you hook up with them on the show? 193 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: Off the show? For sure? 194 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: No, I've just told a story about them being a bit, 195 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: but that's not why I didn't look up with them. 196 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: I think I was in a relationship and also I 197 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 4: don't like to mix business with pleasure. 198 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: Still was a guy who worked in radio, Tommy and 199 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 3: I worked with. Didn't they Tom about his breath? 200 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? 201 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 3: He thought it was a prank. He went, where's the 202 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 3: camera as he was in the boss's office, and they went, no. 203 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: This is a series. 204 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: Your breath smells like you've eaten a turd sandwich. Go 205 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 3: and have a look at yourself. 206 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: It fits in with Regie podcast. Well do you know what? 207 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 5: We have a beautiful person in here, not just physically 208 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 5: but also spiritually as well. And be Imperfect podcast sixth season. Wow, 209 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 5: this is it's back again. You can get it wherever 210 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 5: you get your good podcast from. We love this Man, 211 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 5: new event. 212 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: It's so nice to see you. 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: Can I just clear up something quickly with you. I 214 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: heard on one of the podcasts somebody calling you, Hugh 215 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: Van silent bird. 216 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Is that correct? 217 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 6: I have been called so many things. Cycling bird one day, 218 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 6: that's not bad. Yeah, cycling bird. I like that as 219 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 6: an indiview on the ABC. And then I a friend 220 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 6: of mine sent you found a picture on Google imags 221 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 6: of a bird riding a bike. 222 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: And anyway, mate, let's talk about Resilience project because one 223 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: of the key topics which came up and we were 224 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 3: discussing this off air, was addiction to mobile phones. 225 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 6: So in the hotel this morning where I was, I 226 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 6: went down for breakfast and there was a family of four. Ye, 227 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 6: so was it mum and dad? It was a boy 228 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 6: would have been when thirteen girl looked about fifteen sixteen. 229 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 6: And I was chatting to the dad at the buffet 230 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 6: area and he was saying that had come down from 231 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 6: cannsall that'd stayed for two nights, and he was sitting 232 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 6: near me, and he went back to his table and 233 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: he sat there and his two kids were slumped in 234 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 6: their chairs on their phones. Mum was on the phone, 235 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 6: and I was watching Gang. That's so sad, Like if 236 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: that was us back in the day, you would be 237 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 6: just so. You're so excited with your family trip to 238 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 6: the city, chatting about and the guy, after about two minutes, 239 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 6: he said, is there any dangerugging have some conversation with 240 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 6: some of my own family, And he looked so upset 241 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: about it, and no one answered, like no one looked 242 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 6: up from their phone, like it was just met with 243 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 6: complete silence. And he was sitting there eating his music, 244 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 6: looking so shattered. And I was like, oh, that's really depressing. 245 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 6: And then ten minutes later I realized all I've been 246 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 6: doing myself for the last ten minutes of being on 247 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: my phone as well. And so I've talked about this 248 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 6: so much over the last five to ten years, addiction 249 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 6: to devices, and I've realized that so in my book 250 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 6: that I wrote, which is called The Far Too Personal Trainer. No, sorry, 251 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 6: that's the book which I wrote. 252 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: That's sorry, that's still a couple of copies of olam 253 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 3: dot com. 254 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 6: How do you know j Loo has heard about it? 255 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 6: She yeah, she has. 256 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Oh god, she hasn't read it yet, which she has 257 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 3: heard about it. 258 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 6: So in my book, I did a whole section. I 259 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 6: wrote it in twenty nineteen and it was all and 260 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 6: I did this whole thing on addiction to devices, and 261 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 6: I was all, I had four strategies in there, and 262 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 6: I won't listen on now, but because I've realized that 263 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 6: they worked back then but they don't now. I feel 264 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 6: like big tech and the algorithms have got smarter and 265 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 6: smarter and smarter, and they've got better at making is 266 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 6: addicted and we just so that don't really and there's 267 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 6: any one out of the like there was stuff like 268 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 6: I was saying back in twenty nineteen, Oh, put your 269 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 6: put all your social media apps in a folder and 270 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 6: put it five screens across and label that like folder 271 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: regret or some of that, because you know you're going 272 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 6: to regret Aproarably, the most common my one experiences after 273 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 6: ten minutes or more on social media is regret. So 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: I was like, you could name that the Regret and 275 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 6: you could put it five screens across. I've realized for 276 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 6: the last three years, I just swiped five screens, click 277 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 6: on Regret, don't even read it, and i just go 278 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 6: straight into Instagram and then I'm stuck. And so I've 279 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 6: sort of realized that it's the strategy I write about 280 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 6: the book because of the way technology has It's just 281 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 6: got smarter and smarter. The algorithms too good. It just 282 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 6: keeps sending me videos of Brettley bowling Yorkers and Snake's 283 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 6: being taken out of people's houses. I cannot I cannot 284 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 6: get say no to that. I cannot not look at that. 285 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 6: And so I've I've in the last literally in the 286 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 6: last three weeks, I've taken a new step and it's 287 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 6: the only thing that really works for me. And I'd 288 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 6: love people to try this. It's a technique and it 289 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 6: involves literally putting your phone in a really inconvenient place 290 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: where you actually can't physically get to it. So when 291 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 6: I get home from work at five o'clock five ish, 292 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 6: I leave it in the car park about fifty meters 293 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 6: down the road. Wow, And then I'm going but otherwise, 294 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 6: do you really do this well, yeah, like in the 295 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 6: last three weeks. And it's because I've noticed, I reckon. 296 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 6: If you think about it, the reason we go to 297 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 6: our phone so often, the reason we go to our 298 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 6: phone is actually just to numb the negtive emotion. Well, convenience, 299 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 6: and also we try to number negative emotion. So the 300 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 6: second we feel sad, lonely, disconnected, you, whatever it is, 301 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 6: we just grab our phone and we try to numb 302 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 6: the negtive emotion. It works and numbs the negative emotion, 303 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 6: but it doesn't it doesn't fix the problem, so we 304 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 6: put the phone down. We're still where we were before. 305 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 6: So the example I'll give is my daughter who's four 306 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 6: has the last six months is having a lot of 307 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 6: problems around bedtime. Her meltdowns honestly will last about an hour. 308 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 6: I reckon, Yeah, and so, and it's my job to 309 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 6: put her to bed Pennies with the with the boys, 310 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 6: and I have had my phone on me whenever she's 311 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 6: melting down, I just get my phone out and sort 312 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 6: of look at snakes being taken out of people's houses 313 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 6: or breadlaws in Swinging Yorkers And it's just like I 314 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 6: just I've been doing that just because it's a negative emotion. 315 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 6: I'm so upset with how she's going that I'm just 316 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 6: grabbing my phone. And then I was like, no, what 317 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 6: am I doing? Like she's just watching me be on 318 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 6: my phone this whole hour when she's in distress, and 319 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 6: so I put it downstairs. But then after ten minutes, 320 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 6: I was like, I'll just go and get it, and 321 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 6: i'd go. I would almost like I'd sleepwalking. I didn't 322 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 6: even know I was going downstairs getting my phone. Now 323 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 6: I've left it in the car as too far. I 324 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 6: was like, I can't be bothered. And I've actually noticed 325 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: that we get through the hour together, Like we both 326 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 6: get upset together, then we both cheer up together, and 327 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 6: we go through all the emotions together. We go through 328 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 6: the stress cycle. This we sort of complete this stress 329 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 6: cycle together. And it's been really beautiful to really totally 330 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 6: be present with her as she struggles and then works 331 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 6: her way through it. 332 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I. 333 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: Think she's going to sleep. Is it has helped in 334 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: that sense. 335 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 6: I know it still takes about an hour and a 336 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 6: half way to fall asleep, but I'm lying there with 337 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 6: her and I'm present for it. And when she's struggling 338 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 6: the message she's getting is Hey, I'm here with you. 339 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 6: You know, we're in this together, as opposed to oh 340 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 6: look at that delivery from Brettley. 341 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 5: There's no way right delivery. My youngest son at the 342 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: moment has a real passion for gaming. So he loves 343 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 5: sitting there and talking to mates while playing a game 344 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 5: and loves it. And I understand that, but we give 345 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 5: him time limits, and this is the thing he has 346 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: that the hardest thing is for him to say goodbye 347 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: to his mates and stop it all together. But I 348 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 5: think the most the most important question you out of 349 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 5: all of this is how does Brettlee hold the ball 350 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 5: to to. 351 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 6: I just knew, I just knew it, and you just 352 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: knew the whole time. 353 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how he does it. Here so beautiful. 354 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 6: If you want to have a good time on YouTube, 355 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 6: just typing Brettley and swinging yourkat and yeah that's good. 356 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 6: Actually know that's a device. Don't do that. 357 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: I was reading a story I don't know if you 358 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 4: saw it in the news about Libby Trickett, of course, 359 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 4: hero swimmer champion, and she had an awkward encounter I 360 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: think with a family member who said to a child 361 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: of hers who is nine something about the fact that 362 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: she seems to have dropped some weight and she's looking fantastic, 363 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 4: and that was to the child and the house. Now, 364 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: Libby thought long and hard about whether she was going 365 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: to deal with this privately or she was kind of 366 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: going to open the discussion publicly because of how disgusted 367 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: she was. 368 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: Let's have a little listen to Libby. 369 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: I had someone close to us say to my eight 370 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 4: year old daughter today, Wow, you look like you've lost weight. 371 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 2: Have you lost weight? You look great? 372 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 5: My daughter's eight. 373 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 4: And she kind of continues on in her socials post. 374 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 4: I guess what I want to ask is, yes, there's 375 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 4: the whole discussion around how we talk about body image 376 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 4: and how that's projected onto particularly little girls. But I'm guessing, 377 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: and I don't know who the family family member was, 378 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 4: but there's always a tricky family member. And sometimes the 379 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: older generation thinks that the way they parent or the 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 4: way that they spoke to their children is going to 381 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: work for you and your children today, it doesn't always. 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: How do you have those you know, how do you 383 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 4: kind of say to people, Hey, guess what, these aren't 384 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: your children to be looking after, These aren't your children 385 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 4: to speak to that way, and we're not going to 386 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 4: have that in our house and still be kind of 387 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: okay with them. Am I making sense? 388 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 6: Totally? 389 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? 390 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 4: Because I mean I've even there's even books. I've seen 391 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 4: books for grandparents or books for unties and uncles, because 392 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 4: sometimes it's not great for everybody to get involved and 393 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: put their parenting skills into a different household. 394 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 6: The most important conversation in that point is the conversation 395 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 6: between Liby and her child. And so I don't think 396 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 6: you are going to change a person who says that 397 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 6: you can have a hard conversation with them if you want, 398 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 6: but that relationship there, I think they'll probably double down 399 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 6: and say that's true, that's how I feel. I'm just 400 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 6: saying how I feel, or whatever it is. I don't 401 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 6: think the're going to go, do you know what. I 402 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 6: can't see a well in which that person goes. Do 403 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 6: you know what, You've made some really good points. I 404 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 6: think I'm wrong, and I'm going to go and have 405 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 6: a chat to this child to explain. 406 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: That you're right. They do tend to say I was 407 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: just saying that they. 408 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: Look like especially it's a family, remember. 409 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, totally, And I think they'll just justify what they said, 410 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 6: or they'll they'll try and downplay the significance of it 411 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 6: and sort of almost sort of gaslight. I don't know 412 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 6: this person maybe, but in general I would say that's 413 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 6: what's going to happen. 414 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: Let's say. 415 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 6: I would say, all the emotional energy you have in 416 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 6: that moment goes to the child just just to say 417 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 6: to them, just to explain to them that what was 418 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 6: just said was was utter nonsense in whichever language will 419 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 6: work for you and your child. And what matters is 420 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 6: how kind they are, how compassionate they are, how much 421 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 6: they know all the stuff that we know that kids 422 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 6: you need to hear, and basically, you are enough as 423 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 6: you are right now. You are enough, and you don't 424 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 6: need approval from outside people all that kind of stuff. 425 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 6: And so when an adult said something that to a child, 426 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 6: of course the child is going to trust the adult 427 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 6: because they're the adult in that situation. The message there 428 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 6: to Liby Trigger's daughter was you look better when you're thin. 429 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 6: Such a dangerous, toxic message to receive. So I think 430 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 6: I know Libby very well. We're lucky to have her 431 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 6: on our podcast. She's a beautiful person, she's amazing, and 432 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 6: I know that she would have put a lot of 433 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 6: work into that conversation so met so I'm very long sorry. 434 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 6: If I can give this in a real quick way, Yeah, 435 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 6: all the emotional. 436 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 4: I like the long way, by the way, but I 437 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 4: know we don't usually have time for it on the show. 438 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 6: All the emotional energy you have in that moment needs 439 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 6: to go towards your child and to sort of almost 440 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: rescue that situation. But I'm sure for a lot of 441 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 6: parents that have done so much great work in that 442 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 6: area that it won't be that much of a struggle 443 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 6: to get them to understand. 444 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: And you can adapt to then that kind of that 445 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 4: way of parenting, whether it's a chat, sorry, you can 446 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: adapt that way of parenting, whether it's a discussion about 447 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 4: kind of wait or about other things within the household. 448 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 4: Always put your focus on the child, not the person 449 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 4: who's saying the things you don't want them to say. 450 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, totally, we love you. 451 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 5: To the sixth season of The Imperfect it starts when 452 00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 5: is it up? 453 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: When's your fairst episode? 454 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 5: Do you want to kick it off? 455 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 6: Monday? This coming Monday episode one with I don't think 456 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 6: we'll have to say who, but it rhymes with hat rummins. 457 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 3: Wow, wow the tennis player. That is amazing. 458 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 5: Hey I could do a good in swinging around it 459 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 5: out very nice. 460 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: Love you here, thanks for coming in. 461 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 6: By thank you you. 462 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: Sits In Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 463 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 3: walk great shows like this. Download the Nova Player by 464 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: the app store or Google Play in the