WEBVTT - #55 | Paul Gallen 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.400 Thank you to all the all listeners who continue to 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.440 listen to us. Look, if you're enjoying the podcast, just 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:06.680 do us a favorite. Hit that follow button on your 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:09.559 podcast app right now. It helps us bring your great 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.639 new episodes and make sure that you won't miss anything. 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.840 Whether you're on Spotify, Apple Podcast, or anywhere else. Just 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:20.279 tap follow or subscribe and stay in the loop. Anyway, Guys, cheers. 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.680 Now, don't say any of that stuff that you don't see, 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.200 any of that swinging stuff you're just talking about. It 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.640 takes really good offense. 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:33.479 You don't mean mat I'm a puritan. I again, Well, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.440 thanks for coming over it. Yeah, we're gonna talk about 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:38.199 the fight in the second against Sonny. But you come 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:39.320 over this way much. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.319 Not often. But I do have a good maiden want 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.280 to grow with. He's a builder of this way. He's 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.480 partners with Jake Wall and that they got a pretty 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.200 good business going. So I do come over and see 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.640 him every now and then, but you're not that often. 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:54.320 I was just going to say, so, then, why did 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:57.920 you win so much? When I asked you to come 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.480 over here. You made such a big fuss about it, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.240 like you would just traveled to the other side of the year. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.039 Well, I'll be honest, I worked for TGIBI, but I 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.240 do like your radio station when I listening to be 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.360 listening to you guys, and I really like you know 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.280 obviously Colin Jackie A and Intern Pede and I actually 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:14.880 had a phone call from intern Pizza. I was pretty 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.520 tough to get a phone off from him. And then 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:18.320 he told me what he was ringing me for to 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.240 get you, and then I just got caught. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:21.880 At the moment. Just get caught at the moment. 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:23.800 You just get asked about things, and I just got 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.039 caught up in it and I felt really bad after it. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:29.839 So I message, happens, happens. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.240 Yeah, I'll let me see he's he cops ten times 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.560 worse than that. But yeah, you're the star of the 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.120 Pedophiles as they call it. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.840 Yeah, it was a real blindside because you and you 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.800 messaged me like the day before. I didn't even know 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.920 the ambush was coming, just with an apology and saying 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:47.000 how you love the show. And I was like, why 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.880 what are you apologizing before? Girl? And then he just 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.560 never got back to me, and I was like something 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.480 he got me on the path. I was like, something's 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:56.480 fucking going on. Someone, someone's coming for me. And then 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.840 it still hit me, still ambushed me. 0:01:57.840 --> 0:01:59.360 I didn't even realize knew it was something's going on 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.200 because I woke up up in the morning and there 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.680 are about fifteen miss calls from inter Pete, what's going 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.400 on here? And Matt Maddie, how a mate? What are 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:11.280 you doing? Pet I'm just on the road of the moment, 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:14.959 the road. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.200 Yeah, did you really. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.920 Sign for Mainly? At one point? 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:24.440 Yeah, I was very close two thousand and seven. So 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.520 into two thousand and seven, got the deal for Manly, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.400 which was pretty much just significantly more than we had 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.520 at Cronulla, and I was all but done. I was, 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.960 I was pretty much I hadn't signed the contract obviously, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:36.919 but I was all but done. Me and my wife 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.760 now it was my partner of the time. We come 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.520 over here for the weekend to spend some time over 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:44.800 here for the weekend, just check it all out. And 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.560 we went back home and she goes, you know what, 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.680 I really don't like people to road. I was, oh, okay, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.320 So did I listened to her? 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:53.680 Was that enough? 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:54.120 Well? 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.360 That was enough? Fair enough? So we didn't sign. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.760 And then mainly when the commed two thousand and eight 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.240 Tom kicking meself, so that Bosa was I was trying 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.600 to get me. Yeah, And the funny thing was Boso 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.680 had a fair bit to pull out of in Origin. 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.359 And when I met met Ricky Stewart, who was a 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.560 cronelicache at the time, he said, mate, if you leave 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.800 the club, I'll be filthy. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.480 And he goes, what do you want to do about 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:16.919 red footy? 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:18.400 And I said, what do you What do you mean 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.600 I want to play red foot He goes, if you leave, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.880 you plan any brit footy And I sort of believe 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.840 him at the time, and I thought, well, now I 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:27.920 realized Bozo was one to try to get me, probably 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.280 looked after me anyway. But then then I had to 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.760 get out cause in my contract, if the coach left 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.960 the club, I could leave the club. So Ricky Steell 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.960 get sacked in twenty ten mainly popped back up again. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.880 Now I was look, the money was no different at 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.640 this stage I'd been money wise, was okay cronel at 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:44.920 the time. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:45.840 Like back in two. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.960 Thousand and seven, it was a lot big, not double, 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:52.080 but significantly different. Twenty and ten it wasn't was pretty 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:55.240 much the same. But my missus said again, No, I 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.120 don't want to go people who won the comic twenty eleven. Yeah, 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.640 and then all of a sudden two thousand, everything happens 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.480 at corn we know about, like and I'm going to 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:05.040 sit there. 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:06.680 I was that angry missus. 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.800 Sure you could have put people have run two comps 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.240 when we're going for all this crap, And it was 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.680 just like, yeah. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.280 Given the fact that when you just won the comp 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.080 at twenty sixteen, to even think for a second that 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:20.560 you might have missed that would have absolutely killed me. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.640 I'm so happy I stayed. And I think I was 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:25.520 just true to myself too, like I like to think 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.400 I'm a little guy, and yeah, I stayed true to 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.680 the club. And I remember when I signed that contract, 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.840 that that contract twenty ten, I promised myself. So I 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.600 promised myself, IM going to beat this club. When when 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.400 we went to Calm, I promised myself and obviously a 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.880 lot of things happening between that and I remember, Okay, 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.440 I'm going to beat this club. I didn't from a 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:44.680 strap up, I'm going to beat this club. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:45.240 Yeah. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.160 Yeah, Sure we turned it around and we got the 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.919 job in twenty sixteen, which may have absolutely made it 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.320 all worth it say, so glad to stay. 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.039 You're one of the rare blokes to reject Bozo and 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.160 him not told a grudge against you. Halfway through the 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.400 ninety three season, I got a call from those on 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.520 Frank Stanton and said, mate, Cliff, he's getting on. Cliffe 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.480 would played for another four or five years. Mateh we'd 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.320 like to have Andy because I say, okay. So I 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.000 traveled down here and meet with Frank Stanton Boza. At 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.520 the end of the year. I still hadn't made him 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.280 made up my marble. I had, but I didn't know 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.760 how to tall Boza because he go he ring out 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.800 what's doing? And I go, oh, hollo, Bob, how are you? Yeah? 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:20.039 Mate? 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.000 Anyway, we get to at the end of the season 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:28.000 what's doing and I went, oh. Before I answer, he go, 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.240 you know the kangaroo tool takes off in a couple 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.760 of weeks. He goes, well, I'm telling you that there's 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.920 a player in your position who mate, you know he 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.520 might get ruled out. 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.919 You know I worried about he's grownd bake it. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.800 Ruled out And you know, anyway, I said, look, I'm 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.240 going to stay at Newcastle. Oh yeah, no problem. Bang 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.919 didn't get picked a course and Benny Alias told the 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.159 same story. Going in ninety four he got offered Bozo 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:59.000 Mate come to Manley a couple of years yep, and 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.360 he was going to be on the key grou tour 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:01.680 is going to be named. I think he was might 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.839 have been New South Bolles captain that year. And he goes, 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:08.080 oh yeah, and anyway, knocking back Ben a lie shock 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.880 o mission from the tour. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.240 Benny's story. I get up pretty good with Benny. He's 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:14.440 a fantastic. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.159 Fella and he told me that story. 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.000 You know what's weird? Dad told me last night your 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.000 last year in the NRL. Was it your first year? 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.600 You guys played on you and your brother since you 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:29.240 were this big, And yeah, when I was twenty years old, 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:32.039 Maddie john someone at the club, and yeah, I like 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.400 to play Maddie Johns. 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:34.839 Obviously I knew exactly who he was. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:37.640 Coming back from England one watching win premierships was it 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.320 was a pretty pretty cool thing for myself. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:41.760 And I do remember Maddie. 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:45.120 We remember our Harveys to train Chris mate, he's a 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.280 trainers really so wes to train so hard we went. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.919 We lost like six in a row. We're not winning 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.200 like eleven or twelve games straight to finish inside the 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.960 top four. He just me's down in the Grand Final. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.120 But we trained so hard and we do it. 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.120 It was an aw sort of thing. So I remember me. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.520 All I remember about Maddie Johns was running sea. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.480 It was one day got down to his Undy's. I think, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:05.160 I think you might. 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.920 One day and I'll never forget a bloke you might know. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.119 You probably remember Pat Gibson. I still taught to Patty 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.880 Gibson all the time where it was still good mates, 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.960 and Paddy Gibson was his young Mike my age, fit 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.320 as fit as you can imagine. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.120 Blake just powering up these heads. Come on, Maddie, you 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:24.200 can do it. You can do it. 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:29.360 Shut the fuck up absolutely where to look like Maddy 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.240 John's just hamming him. I was actually thinking about YouTube 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:33.800 boys on the way over there. You guys used to 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.560 come to train and run around this big but I 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:41.280 remember one time I wrote the doctors maloof doctort his 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.400 just little thing, and I just remember he used to 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:46.240 in this wait we're waiting, there's about three or four 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.120 three or wait around you were just running around like 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.280 little rash, just going berserk. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.960 It was so funny. He had pure black hair, you 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:54.880 had pure blonde hair. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.240 So different that that year. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:07:59.840 I tell people all the time, and people always taken 0:07:59.880 --> 0:08:01.840 with grain of salt because most teams trained hard, but 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:05.240 that year I'll never forget it. I'm talking like two 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:10.080 or three incredibly hard fitness sessions a week when you're 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.520 playing during the season, even really were gonna be playing 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:15.960 on the Sunday and we beget hammered on the Thursday. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.800 And Chris Anderson was like, when I arrived at this 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.880 club for the previous few years, they hadn't trained hard enough. Mate, 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:23.840 I'm going to harden these blokes up. And I was 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:26.920 thinking myself, mate, for killing us. We lost. We lost 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.679 seven in a row at one point, and I remember 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.800 getting up at the Loose Club and they just booed him, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.360 and he goes, don't worry, he goes where that he goes. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.319 We're that close to turning things around, he said, And 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:37.839 you'll be cheering at the end of the end. I'm thinking, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:43.000 there's no chance. We went on this amazing run qualifier 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.680 play the Warriors to make the Grand Final, and unfortunately 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:46.160 they beat us. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.640 But that was that was pretty good. To play for 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:49.959 your dad was a good thing. 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.200 I thing the way that those like ninety eight, because 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.480 he coached Melbourne in ninety eight ninety nine, right when 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.080 they first came into the calm, The way that they 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.400 talked about him, it was like they they worked hard, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.120 but they were just like on the piece and that 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.719 all the time. He liked that too, Okay, was he was? 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:05.640 He very work hard, play hard kind of guys. 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:06.160 Yeah. Yeah. 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.240 There be times he takes off the train to the 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.319 pub and I remember I was pretty serious that I. 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:12.199 Wouldn't really drink. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.600 But I do remember one time the next year we're 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.520 going He got sacked the next year, but we're going 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.319 through an ordinary stage. We lost a game at home. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.920 He goes, that's everyone get out of the clubs. We'll 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:23.679 get out of the locked us in a room. He 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:28.920 wheeled in two like we'll like in a shopping full 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.160 of alcohol. Said we are not leaving it until we 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:36.080 finish that, mate, Chris beating young Birdie, Greg bird punched on. 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.680 By the end of it, Nick Graham left, Deean Teresa 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.040 left the club. There was three or four, but Paul Miller, 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:42.920 like three or four blokes left the club. When I 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.760 receved to England and Hope's got sacked by the year. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:47.960 But we at the Phisio that night ended up in 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:53.760 hospital without we're just the hoodoo Guru's Blake was there 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.439 sing songs and maybe it. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.640 Was just something I will never forget, but it was 0:09:59.080 --> 0:09:59.679 b big no. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.520 But he used to get to the point, like toward 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.080 the end of the year that our strength conditioner started 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.680 pushing Blakes a little too hard. Like by the end 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.280 of the year, everyone's made caren injuries. And remember once 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.199 we're doing a rehab session in the pool. This is 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.079 the day after the game. He said, right out, everybody out, 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.000 We're going to go. We're all going to jump on 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.160 the rowers and do like fitness tests on the rowers 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.880 and mate, like sometimes we do five k runs. Remember 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.640 after after the day after a game, day after a 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.199 game we made it the Canels, we'll do a five 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.360 k run. I just ended up saying, Hopes on past thirty, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.240 my fucking knees are screaming, I just can't run on 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.400 the road, like the day after a game, I can't 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:35.800 do it. And he said, ah, right, I don't worry 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.280 about I'll tell him you've got the flu or something. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.400 But this certain day he said right out, everyone out 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:43.079 of the pool, and Pully Milloy just refused to get out. Pullyes, 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.679 I'm not getting out of the pool. He goes, get 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.319 out of the fucking pool and Pullymelo goes no, and 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.160 Pullly Mello is a massive man, but so passive and 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.400 so nice. You know, Pully Mellod had enough. Pully Mello 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.360 just chumped out and grabbed him by the throat and started. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:10:59.719 I remember. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:08.880 Killing to do these National Park runs, all sorts of things. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.920 I remember one day in the bush we all got back. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.199 He's put water himself and just walked in like you 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.120 just finished. But he Paul Miller hated this. The train 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:23.920 Aaron Aaron Saws for his name was that's right. Maybe 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.679 he was a hard do it for me personally, it 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:28.719 actually helped me and helping good Stead for the rest 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.520 of my career. But I can understand a blake and 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.400 was at the back end of it. Was just like 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:32.920 over it. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.960 But there was so many like that year. So talking 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:40.400 about Manly, you know, we played Manly that year and 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:42.800 I think it was something like cron had never beaten 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.400 Manly and Manly, so we're getting the bus over and 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.520 beautiful day, and there was the mood on the bus 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:53.160 was so pessimistic. I'm going this is weird and chronologist 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.400 don't win there, and I said, okay. So we played 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.120 the first half. Half time they're beating us twenty nil. 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.480 I remember going in the shed's going in the hell 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.080 this is true, and Hope's is just sitting in the 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.560 sheds and he's sort of going counting on, like right, 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:06.760 I'm not going to waste my breath on these sore 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.360 obviously not gonna. So we come out of half time, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.360 we score after half time. The final score was we 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:13.960 beat him fifty four to twenty six. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.679 Yes, really, and that was started my career. I remember. 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:19.800 And the next year we played him it might have 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:21.040 been the same idea it would have been. The next 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.719 year I got moved to five eight because there was 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:28.559 injuries everywhere else playing fight. Remember Danny Utley, there's a kickoff, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.680 there's a kick off my way and Danny you fat, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.079 you know what, you better pass me the ball. I 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:36.280 has to catch it, look at him to run, but 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.080 I got but I was got to double there. The 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.400 next year against Manly once again we beat him again. 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.000 So I was like what's his crap? 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.480 We can't win over. This is easy. But then things 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:45.040 turned a bit off. 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.200 Couldn't you know what's funny? You get like I remember 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:49.520 it would have been early in your you might have 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.599 been playing back roll at this stage. I used to 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.560 run like when I was young, a bit bow legged, 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:56.320 like you know how they teach it, like run all 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.760 the way through through your toes and like I used 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.880 to flick out at the back, and Billy Slater used 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.240 to do it at a young when he first come 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.400 into first game. Remember, like Billy was showing me some 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.880 of his stuff and show like why it's bad to 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.240 run like that, And he showed me his first ever 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.559 try in the NRL. He was playing center, got out 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.960 of dummy half, went down the blind side, made a 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:15.719 lineback and he's running and he's like showing me his 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.960 running ticket. He goes, see, like see how I'm not 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.240 effective and it slows me down after I get past 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.600 the twenty thirty meter mark, and he goes and nearly 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.920 got chased down by forward and I'm looking I go 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.439 he said, he said, Gal, it was you that you 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:29.720 like nearly stopped him in the corner. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.480 I was pretty good. Made other ten's enemies. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.560 I stopped him there, so that's yeah, at the start 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.680 of his career, didn't it obviously tend to be an 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:37.560 absolute superstar. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.320 But was sixteen dollars half we got beating game, we 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:40.760 got beaten. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.000 So that was round one. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.880 Melbourne had never lost a round one game under Bell 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.400 and winning sixteen neil. They scored a try right in 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:48.240 the game towards the back end of the game. Not 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:49.800 he just tried to put a gruber kick through a 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.959 ricochette of someone's knees. Guy picked up, got pass the 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:53.880 ball in the lake and scored. 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:55.440 Yeah, that was Bell's first game. 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:56.400 Right, it would have been, would have been. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.120 I might have been proud to start anyway, but yeah, 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:00.720 Slater tens him as I stopping. 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:05.080 Oh what you've been a chill mine. You see more 0:14:05.120 --> 0:14:06.679 of uncle Joey than we do as you go and 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:07.920 uncle Joey. 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:08.319 Yeah good. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.480 I get a good with Joey. He's good. It's a 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:10.920 good fellow. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.720 I don't know that, so I don't know. Obviously the 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.319 family issue good now is are a complicated thing. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:22.240 I took a nine. I see what chamis versus Gus. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:26.280 That was that was that was riveting to you V 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:27.080 was good. 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.240 But segment one, I sort of actually asked us a question. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.280 I could see Chems in the background like looking at me, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.320 and I'm like, anyway, that had come? The air break 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.880 come and and I respect when Gus when I know 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.480 he doesn't want to talk about and Gusta looked at me 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:40.480 and I knew we didn't want to go, so I 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.960 didn't keep proving it all and shemers come out. He goes, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:44.880 that's that's what I want to do for my segment, 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.720 the scuttle but segment. So I saw it, but I 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:48.800 didn't know I was asking the questions. And I actually 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.480 had to go home that night. I had to train 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.880 for the fire. I said, I do the first three segs, 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:54.920 but that's it, and they said okay. So I went 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:56.840 home and I landed, landed back in Sydney and just 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.600 turned my phones just blowing up and Samers and Gusts 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:00.080 into it. 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:02.440 Because you and you and like you're one of the 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.720 few that will you will go at each other quite 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.480 a bit. It's all in jest, but we ever go. 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.160 I would say, mate, I don't know how to how 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:12.760 to I don't know. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.200 Gus is a guy, You. 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:15.360 Just a complex try. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:18.640 I don't really have too much relationship with him, like 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:19.560 I really respect him. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:20.320 I've got to be honest. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.600 He's probably one of the the probably smartest bloke I've 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:25.480 ever seen. The way he talks about the game, the 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:28.200 way he knows the game. He is He's very very 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.480 unique like that he knows the game inside out. But 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.160 you know, I don't always agree with what he says 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:35.480 or think what he says is right, and I'm happy 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.480 to challenge him on that. But he's a pretty good argument. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.600 He's got a lot of experiences, did very very well. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.920 Gus can be very intimidating. He's an incredible orator, and 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.960 he can sit and can hold his nerve in an argument. 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.560 It's the first time I've seen sort of Gus. I 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:54.560 wouldn't say he was rattled, but mate, it was two 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.720 blokes really going back with forwards and champis not at 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:58.040 the end. 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.200 Where he said, what's what you're saying? 0:15:59.240 --> 0:15:59.400 Boy? 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.680 I think that was that was that's not Gus doesn't 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:02.720 normally say. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.320 I really really compose and really contried him what he says, 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:07.200 and that was probably where you. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.440 And also also when he went to you know, you 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.680 don't realize what you do to players and all that. 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.520 There was a little bit of that. I thought that. 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.480 But Gus, yeah, you said, he's an incredibly complex guy. 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.280 Tear what mate, coming through the all young guys. He 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.640