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Speaker 2: Now, don't say any of that stuff that you don't see,

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Speaker 2: any of that swinging stuff you're just talking about. It

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Speaker 1: You don't mean mat I'm a puritan. I again, Well,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming over it. Yeah, we're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: the fight in the second against Sonny. But you come

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Speaker 3: Not often. But I do have a good maiden want

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Speaker 3: him every now and then, but you're not that often.

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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, so, then, why did

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll be honest, I worked for TGIBI, but I

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Speaker 3: listening to you guys, and I really like you know

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Speaker 3: obviously Colin Jackie A and Intern Pede and I actually

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Speaker 4: At the moment. Just get caught at the moment.

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Speaker 3: You just get asked about things, and I just got

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Speaker 4: So I message, happens, happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll let me see he's he cops ten times

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Speaker 1: worse than that. But yeah, you're the star of the

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Speaker 1: Pedophiles as they call it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a real blindside because you and you

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Speaker 2: messaged me like the day before. I didn't even know

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Speaker 2: the ambush was coming, just with an apology and saying

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Speaker 2: he got me on the path. I was like, something's

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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize knew it was something's going on

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Speaker 4: I was that angry missus.

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Speaker 3: Sure you could have put people have run two comps

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Speaker 1: Given the fact that when you just won the comp

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy I stayed. And I think I was

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Speaker 1: You're one of the rare blokes to reject Bozo and

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Speaker 1: him not told a grudge against you. Halfway through the

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Speaker 1: how to tall Boza because he go he ring out

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Speaker 1: what's doing? And I go, oh, hollo, Bob, how are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You know I worried about he's grownd bake it.

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Speaker 1: Ruled out And you know, anyway, I said, look, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to stay at Newcastle. Oh yeah, no problem. Bang

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Speaker 1: didn't get picked a course and Benny Alias told the

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Speaker 1: Mate come to Manley a couple of years yep, and

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Speaker 1: he was going to be on the key grou tour

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Speaker 1: is going to be named. I think he was might

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Speaker 3: Fella and he told me that story.

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Speaker 2: You know what's weird? Dad told me last night your

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Speaker 3: You guys played on you and your brother since you

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Speaker 4: Obviously I knew exactly who he was.

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Speaker 3: Coming back from England one watching win premierships was it

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Speaker 4: And I do remember Maddie.

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Speaker 3: We remember our Harveys to train Chris mate, he's a

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Speaker 3: We lost like six in a row. We're not winning

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Speaker 4: It was an aw sort of thing. So I remember me.

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Speaker 3: All I remember about Maddie Johns was running sea.

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Speaker 4: It was one day got down to his Undy's. I think,

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Speaker 3: One day and I'll never forget a bloke you might know.

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Speaker 3: You probably remember Pat Gibson. I still taught to Patty

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Speaker 4: Blake just powering up these heads. Come on, Maddie, you

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Speaker 4: It was so funny. He had pure black hair, you

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Speaker 2: So different that that year.

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Speaker 1: that year I'll never forget it. I'm talking like two

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Speaker 1: thinking myself, mate, for killing us. We lost. We lost

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Speaker 1: getting up at the Loose Club and they just booed him,

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Speaker 1: We're that close to turning things around, he said, And

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Speaker 1: there's no chance. We went on this amazing run qualifier

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Speaker 1: play the Warriors to make the Grand Final, and unfortunately

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Speaker 4: But that was that was pretty good. To play for

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Speaker 4: your dad was a good thing.

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Speaker 2: I thing the way that those like ninety eight, because

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Speaker 2: he coached Melbourne in ninety eight ninety nine, right when

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Speaker 2: He very work hard, play hard kind of guys.

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Speaker 4: Yes, really, and that was started my career. I remember.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't you know what's funny? You get like I remember

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Speaker 2: got chased down by forward and I'm looking I go

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Speaker 2: he said, he said, Gal, it was you that you

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Speaker 4: I was pretty good. Made other ten's enemies.

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Speaker 3: I stopped him there, so that's yeah, at the start

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Speaker 1: But was sixteen dollars half we got beating game, we

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Speaker 4: So that was round one.

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Speaker 3: Melbourne had never lost a round one game under Bell

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was Bell's first game.

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Speaker 4: Right, it would have been, would have been.

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Speaker 3: I might have been proud to start anyway, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh what you've been a chill mine. You see more

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Speaker 3: Yeah good.

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Speaker 4: I get a good with Joey. He's good. It's a

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Speaker 3: I don't know that, so I don't know. Obviously the

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Speaker 1: I took a nine. I see what chamis versus Gus.

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Speaker 3: But segment one, I sort of actually asked us a question.

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Speaker 3: he doesn't want to talk about and Gusta looked at me

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Speaker 3: and I knew we didn't want to go, so I

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Speaker 3: that's that's what I want to do for my segment,

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Speaker 2: Because you and you and like you're one of the

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Speaker 2: a bit. It's all in jest, but we ever go.

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Speaker 3: I would say, mate, I don't know how to how

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Speaker 4: Gus is a guy, You.

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Speaker 1: Just a complex try.

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Speaker 3: I don't really have too much relationship with him, like

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Speaker 3: I really respect him.

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Speaker 4: I've got to be honest.

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Speaker 3: He's probably one of the the probably smartest bloke I've

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Speaker 3: He's got a lot of experiences, did very very well.

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Speaker 1: Gus can be very intimidating. He's an incredible orator, and

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Speaker 1: It's the first time I've seen sort of Gus. I

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Speaker 4: Where he said, what's what you're saying?

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Speaker 5: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I think that was that was that's not Gus doesn't

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Speaker 3: I really really compose and really contried him what he says,

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Speaker 3: and that was probably where you.

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Speaker 1: And also also when he went to you know, you

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Speaker 1: There was a little bit of that. I thought that.

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Speaker 1: But Gus, yeah, you said, he's an incredibly complex guy.

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Speaker 1: Tear what mate, coming through the all young guys. He

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Speaker 1: forget that. But I think the important thing is when

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Speaker 1: you meet Gus, is you when you meet him is

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Speaker 1: you don't have any expectations. So when I used to

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Speaker 1: you might want to I've got no expectations. So I

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Speaker 2: Mate, it was great. It was great TV, Like from

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Speaker 2: I can imagine all the partners were just absolutely loving it.

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Speaker 2: You saw everything that want.

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Speaker 4: To see what happened. I wasn't there. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if ayth happen.

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Speaker 2: Like on a lot of those shows, right one hundred

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Speaker 3: There's an awkward silence and no one really says too much.

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Speaker 3: But I haven't been in that big run on radio

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Speaker 3: app like Leavia. At times, Levy just cuts me off something.

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Speaker 3: He's got to control the penalty me off. But so

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Speaker 3: probably with like Leav's a blake is not afraid to

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Speaker 4: That's good. I get him, good with it, really good

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Speaker 4: with him. But yeah, Gus is sort of a bit.

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Speaker 3: I've never had an argument adying with him on air

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Speaker 4: Not on not on TV.

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Speaker 1: Soney Bill, Sony Bill, been a long time in the

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Speaker 1: making this one. Gal, Why it's so long, mate.

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Speaker 3: I'll answer and see something. They have a different opinion.

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Speaker 3: But I just don't think you every wanted to do it.

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Speaker 3: And I just think that I had my first fight. Look,

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00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,679
Speaker 3: I come, it might have been twenty twelve thirteen ish

440
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,199
Speaker 3: he had. He fought sometime around them as well, and

441
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,240
Speaker 3: straight away it's just had my first fight in one

442
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,880
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, fight Sonny Bill, and it got

443
00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,760
Speaker 3: spoken about, I admitted at the start. I said, no, look,

444
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,399
Speaker 3: I'm not ready for that. You know, I've had one

445
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,000
Speaker 3: amateur fight. Let me see if they ever want to

446
00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,720
Speaker 3: keep doing this. Kept doing it probably once a year

447
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,520
Speaker 3: for the next five years, and every time I thought

448
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,560
Speaker 3: we would get asked about it and I said yeah, yeah, okay,

449
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:20,359
Speaker 3: let's let's do it.

450
00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,080
Speaker 4: And that was it.

451
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,120
Speaker 3: Two probably twenty nineteen twenty, when I started saying, look,

452
00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,359
Speaker 3: this has got to happen. Let's let's ramp this up bit.

453
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,919
Speaker 3: So I'd often say on TV, yeah, let's do it.

454
00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,960
Speaker 3: I'd lask Sunny Bill, let's do it, and he said mate.

455
00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,960
Speaker 3: The first time I went, when I stepped back in

456
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,680
Speaker 3: the square circle, he quarter it, you'd be the first

457
00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:40,080
Speaker 3: person I ring. He fought for one twenty twenty two.

458
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,520
Speaker 3: He had three fights on never a single phone call.

459
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 3: I started ringing Codery's manager twenty twenty twenty one, say, man,

460
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,640
Speaker 3: we're going to make this happen like I'm going.

461
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,880
Speaker 4: To retire soon, veryvery soon.

462
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,280
Speaker 3: I got this last contract with no limit was with Fox,

463
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 3: and part of one new nine deal was I couldn't

464
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,399
Speaker 3: fight with Fox anymore. They were they were going to

465
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,119
Speaker 3: allow me to finish my contract, which is fine that

466
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,639
Speaker 3: they said after that, no more, and I said, that's

467
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to retire anyway. So I met with Coder

468
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,119
Speaker 3: a couple of occasions. Last I met with him was

469
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,080
Speaker 3: at Brighton Sands on the beach there and beautiful. Yeah.

470
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,080
Speaker 3: Basically said mate, we're going to give you fifty fifty.

471
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 3: I said, it's got to be fifty to fifty and

472
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 3: then he said, how much do you want? Do you

473
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 3: want of New Zealand? So what happens with boxing, Everything

474
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,240
Speaker 3: goes into a pool, you get a percently split and

475
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,120
Speaker 3: it goes out. He said, how much one New Zealand?

476
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 3: I said, well, whatever the splitze it is fifty to

477
00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,719
Speaker 3: fifty he has you're not getting one cent in New Zealand.

478
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 3: I said, mate, you don't want to do this fight.

479
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 3: He's a full of shit. You don't want to do

480
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 3: it on that out. So when I am nothing else

481
00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,120
Speaker 3: happened a couple more times what I've been spoken about,

482
00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 3: But then i'd done a story in twenty twenty one,

483
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 3: whenever I knew I was retiring, I said, Sony's going.

484
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 4: To wait till I retire.

485
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 3: He's going to wait till I finish up and well

486
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,159
Speaker 3: passed my best for he says he wants to fight me.

487
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 3: And sure enough, on the around the twentieth and May,

488
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 3: I've got the emails. I've got an offer from stand

489
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 3: to fight. It's only built twenty May twenty twenty three.

490
00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 3: And still, I said, seven months after I retired, is

491
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: exactly what I said would happened. And still I said, look,

492
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 3: I'll fight him if I get a guaranteed figure. I

493
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 3: want a guaranteed figure. Sony can have every dollar up

494
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 3: until that guaranteed figure, and then we go fifty to

495
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 3: fifty from there. So it's going to be a fifty

496
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,119
Speaker 3: to fifty fight. But I want one guarantee. They said, no,

497
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: that's not fair on something. I said, Fuck Sonny, I said, mate,

498
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,920
Speaker 3: he's waited this all this time. I told you exactly

499
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: what would happen. I told you back in twenty twenty one.

500
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 3: He'd wait for me to retire. That's what's happened. Now.

501
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,440
Speaker 3: I'm getting it off the contract. If you guarantee me

502
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,440
Speaker 3: the figure, I'll do it. If you're not, I'm retired.

503
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,640
Speaker 3: They said, we can't we can't guarantee the figure. It's

504
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,159
Speaker 3: fifty fifty all the way. It's the way we're doing.

505
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 3: And I said, well, I'm retired. I've been retired for

506
00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 3: seven months. I'll stay retired. In twenty twenty three was

507
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: my was my gap year, so to speak. When you're

508
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: retired foot you let your head down. And I probably

509
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: did a little bit too much that year, and twenty

510
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 3: twenty four odd around sort of got me laugh on. No,

511
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 3: not that I was off track, you know, just straighten

512
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 3: up bit. And watched Mike Tyson fight Jake Paul and

513
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 3: Jake put doesn't getting near Mike Tyson when they're doing

514
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: it properly.

515
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: We all know that. And Jake Paul beat Mike Tyson.

516
00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 4: And I was that way Graham.

517
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: So I thought, you know what, tomorrow, who's going to

518
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 3: remember this like the remember? But professional sports are winning

519
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 3: to lose. I thought, you know, if I gonna be

520
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 3: forty three years old and make a dollar, I'm going

521
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: to do it.

522
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 4: So I rang stand.

523
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: I said, it is this fight sttle possibility. And they

524
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,719
Speaker 3: said we'll ring Sonny. We'll let your name, so they

525
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 3: rang Sonny. He said yes, and here we are. This

526
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 3: This was in November last year twenty I've got Texas

527
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 3: starting about negotiation.

528
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: I actually wanted to have to fight over in Vegas

529
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 4: for the NURL.

530
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I said.

531
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 3: I said it was going to be thirty thousand asses

532
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 3: over there. Nothing to do. Watch me in Sunny fight.

533
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 3: It's Truman back in Australia. Will fight whatever Tom necessary

534
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 3: over there. But Monday wouldn't have been ready then, and

535
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 3: he said, no, I'm not gonna be ready, so I

536
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it. And obviously here we are in July.

537
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what he's he's a good negotiator, coder,

538
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: he's a good negotiator for his fighter. He's incredible. What

539
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,479
Speaker 1: do you did for Chock? So it must have been

540
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: that must have been a tough negotiation made.

541
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 3: Seven months in negotiation. And then that's what frustrates me that,

542
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: like Sonny says things like at the press coms over day,

543
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: what happened twenty twenty two were right the end of

544
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 3: the world. We're just about to sign a contract, just

545
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 3: about to sign the contract. Ten rounds, twelve rounds or what.

546
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 4: Was it ten or twelve? We're just about to sign

547
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 4: the contract. What was it ten?

548
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: Where was it going to be who was it with?

549
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: Like the thing that I get frustrating work. You know,

550
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: when two blokes are telling a different story, that the

551
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 3: stories are similar, and then you know the true summer

552
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 3: in the red. You got to work it out. I mean,

553
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: we are so far apart in what we say, like

554
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 3: he like, so far apart. We're not even on the

555
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: same page, like he says. We were just about to

556
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: sign a contract in twenty twenty two. I've said to him,

557
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 3: I've said publicly, I said, show me one bit of

558
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 3: correspondence from me to you, or to your manager or

559
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 3: to stand or whoever from from twenty twenty two.

560
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 4: Just one email.

561
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 3: I've got seven months of emails for this fight, seven

562
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 3: months worth of emails and texts. I said, just produce

563
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 3: one email or one text about me. You fighting you

564
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two.

565
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: Yes, because you've always you've You've always had good likes,

566
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: particularly around state of origin. You're always good at hyping

567
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 2: up in an event, Sonny. Sonny's been particularly vocal like

568
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: leading up to this fight.

569
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Unusual.

570
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 2: Is there, like is there bad blood between we.

571
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: Don't like to look.

572
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: I can't say I hate him because there's lots of things,

573
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 3: something he's done in his past that would be easy

574
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: for me to bring up, but I think would embarrass

575
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 3: his family, and that's I'm.

576
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: Not about as a blake. I'm not about that.

577
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: Look, I'm happy to sell a fight. Do I need

578
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: to talk about the fight, talk about certain things, but

579
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm not going to intentionally bring things up that will

580
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: embarrass other people, particularly.

581
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: Innocent people that don't deserve it.

582
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: So now that's and that's very with this bloke after

583
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: what he said. There's certain things I'd love to say,

584
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: I'd love to bring up, but again I wouldn't being

585
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: true to myself and just wouldn't be the person I

586
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: want to be.

587
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 4: Oh no Angel, watch want to someone angel.

588
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 3: But you know, there's certain things I'm just not going

589
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: to bring up aout him because would affect his family,

590
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 3: and I don't think that's fair.

591
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: What what's his strengths as a fighter.

592
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: He's range, he's a big bloke and he's six six.

593
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 3: I think he says says on his players one hundred

594
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 3: and ninety one cents, he's a lot bigger than that.

595
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: He's put six four, he's got big range. I think

596
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: he's going to be powerful. I didn't he's everyone who's

597
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 3: went over nd. As you punch someone in the rights

598
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: on the chin, it's going to hurt him. So he's

599
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: got that ability. I just I've got no doubt if

600
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 3: he had done it before, I win. And I think

601
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: he knows that. That's like, actions speak loud than words.

602
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: I've repeatedly said, let's do it, let's do it, let's

603
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: do it. I've had nothing from me, as I said,

604
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: for three times before this discussion even happened, So actions

605
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: speak loud the words. I've got no doubt he knows

606
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: you would have been beaten. But this time, I think

607
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 3: probably the fact he has waited. He's four years younger

608
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 3: than me. It probably is a fifty to fifty five

609
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 3: now it's going to be very very interesting. But I

610
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 3: just think I've got too much, too much for him,

611
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: I really do.

612
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: How hard do you mean? How hard do you mean

613
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: because you're a fit dude and you work very hard,

614
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: How hard have you been training?

615
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 3: Oh? Look, no, than I normally would, to be honest, Obviously,

616
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: the sparring is a part I've got to pick up now.

617
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 3: Six weeks out, got to pick up the sparring. And

618
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: that's you know, I love training. I train every day.

619
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 3: I think that's mental health and it's just something I

620
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 3: liked to do so, but sparring is different.

621
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: Sparring is not healthy.

622
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 3: You get you got bigger. And look, I was spoken

623
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 3: to doctors about somebody's talking about concussion that these days.

624
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 3: I was spoking the doctors about it. And they tell

625
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 3: me that that getting knocked out was not good for you.

626
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: Ain't me wrong, but I getting knocked out is not good.

627
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 3: It's it's it's the constant. It's the repeated rattling of

628
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: the brain, repeated ratling, week after week, month after month.

629
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 3: You after you, that's what that's what builds issues with

630
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: your brain. So look, they've sort of said to me,

631
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: doing this one more time, we can't say it's gonna

632
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: be good for It's.

633
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: Not gonna be good for you.

634
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: But you know hopefully that you ain't got too much.

635
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: My question I was going to ask you, is okay

636
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: he going to fight Sonny? But I was blatantly clear

637
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: because his style is range, you're getting in nice and

638
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: close to him. I remember asking Hopper once just as

639
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: you were just starting, we were about to start your

640
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: your boxing career. And I said to the Hopper he said,

641
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: I'll do a bit of sparring with goal. I said,

642
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: how did you go? He said, fuck, couldn't coop your

643
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: He said he was just kept coming at me and

644
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: coming at me and coming at me. He said he

645
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: was fucking relentless and he hit me on the elbow,

646
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: and just I mean, that's so, that's like, I mean,

647
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: that's clearly obviously going to fight, you know, the two

648
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: different styles, just getting in tight with him.

649
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 4: That's why he wants two minu rounds.

650
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: Like I'm like, it's this is one of the most

651
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: embarrassing things we're talking about.

652
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 4: Something to people.

653
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: William's Cross Coade superstar claims his one title boxing titles

654
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 3: and he wants to fight two minute rounds. It's it's

655
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: for me. It's just guards to show how much his

656
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 3: fight means to him. Like for me, it's professional sport.

657
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: There's a winner and a loser. I win this fight,

658
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: how's my life change. It doesn't. It's not gonna change.

659
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: So where we get paid the same amount of money,

660
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 3: life goes on. We foundly still there to my if

661
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 3: I lose the fight, same thing. So but I just

662
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: feel like this, this fight to him just means so

663
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: much like it's just it's like his legs, he's going

664
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 3: to change and he loses. And that's why he's never

665
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: want to do it, no Doubt's where I never.

666
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 4: Ever wanted to do it.

667
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 3: So to put he put his stamp on and say

668
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: no Monely fighting too minute rounds And basically that's what

669
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: the seven months of Negaisha was about. The rounds got

670
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: to the point where Ben kimber From stands, end of me, mate,

671
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: this is it, take a leave. He's not gonna he's

672
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 3: not going to do nothing else, which for a bloke

673
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: of his stature, he's so embarrassing to fight two minute rounds.

674
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 3: It's like it's like having a one hundred and twenty

675
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: k and monsters in your rugby league team, powerful fit fast.

676
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: At the fifty minute mark, they'll be up sixteen to

677
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 3: twenty fifty five minute mark, but by the eightieth minute

678
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: you're going to come home and get him every time.

679
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 3: That's that's just it's embarrassing for him. That's and when

680
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: you think about our styles, he wants two minutes because

681
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: you try and walk backwards while someone's trying to punch that. Yeah,

682
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: you can do it for a round or two. This

683
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: is three minute rounds. You do it for a round

684
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: or two, four or five six rounds, you're going to

685
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: get caught. So they're going to catch up out and

686
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: they knock you out. And he and he knows that.

687
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: That's why he does not want to do three minute rounds.

688
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 3: He knows he can't beat me out of three minute rounds.

689
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: How monumentally different because a lot of people will listen

690
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: to who aren't fight people and will go, oh no,

691
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: two minutes, three minutes. How monumentally different is two to three?

692
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: That's here in rugby league terms, is different between playing

693
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: eighty minutes and fifty five minutes. It's it's sure, we're

694
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: going for a three k run, but you only run

695
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: two and you've only run two k's not three like

696
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 3: it's it's it's hugely different. It's it's so different, it's

697
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: and he knows that. And then you get a minute

698
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: break in between, so he's got to work for two minutes.

699
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: They get a minute break. And as I said, look,

700
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: there's eight round is positive for me. You know if

701
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 3: he can't knock me. Look you I'd say this, if

702
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: he knocks me out in the first round, I'll shake

703
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: his hand and I'll say you're better than me, you

704
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: deserve it well done. If you can't do that, I've

705
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: got no interest in shaking his hand. I'll been polite

706
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 3: of him even after.

707
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: I don't like the bloke.

708
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: And things ever nearly got physicals right word, But have

709
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: you bloke's been in the same building or at the

710
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: same place at nine and had it clashed only once.

711
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 4: It was sort of late twenty twenty two.

712
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the only time we spoke about it,

713
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: coming away like let's get it done time thing and

714
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 3: he's like, sign the contract, mate, there is no contract.

715
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

716
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: And that was only ones ever before that. We haven't

717
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 3: worked together often. But yeah, at the end of day,

718
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: you tell you to be professional and you go am.

719
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: You do your job and you go aim. So that

720
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: was the only time we had arguing about it back

721
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two, but we haven't nowther th Nay,

722
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: he's been fine.

723
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about now boxing.

724
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: Can we just just quickly just want to shout it

725
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: out because if if our listeners want to get tickets

726
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: on ticket Tek. July sixteenth, Sunny Bill Williams Versusaul Gallan

727
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: Kudos Bank Arena I'm sure you can watch it online

728
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: and stand as well. But just before we move off that,

729
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: do you have a walk out song? Is there one

730
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: that you always walk out?

731
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: I do, and the only reason I've got it is

732
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: because my first ever fight, I didn't have a clue

733
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: what Chad Townsend picked it for me.

734
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: It's played it all the origin.

735
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 6: The cage Man Cashmere led Zeppelin did, Yeah, cash led

736
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 6: Zeppelin because there's a variation of Kashmir, but it's at

737
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 6: the moment I don't think it'd be politically correct to

738
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 6: play it.

739
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Oh, Chaddy, there was a remix where they used the

740
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: riff for Kashmere and the theme song of god Zillap,

741
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: but it was produced and.

742
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: Oh that's yeah, that's what I know.

743
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 4: It's a good Zilla soundtrack. Yeah, well original, I know

744
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 4: what you're talking about. Now change.

745
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to to pick one for you.

746
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm a stick consistent. I'm very consistent, keep things the

747
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: same when things are going okay, and.

748
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Get do you your love rugby league and boxing? Which

749
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: one did you love more?

750
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 4: Rugby leg Yeah, rubular man. I'm a rugby leage player.

751
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: I'm a rud league player who I think reasonably tough

752
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 3: I did fight as a kid. Sorry, I boxed as

753
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: a kid. I never thought, never ever had a fight.

754
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 3: I never thought I'd have a fight. But I do

755
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 3: have a little bit of background in it as as

756
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: a kid, as a youngster going to going to the

757
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: local PC and Jim's at Marylands.

758
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, like rehab and or one.

759
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 3: Day Chris Beatty ripped Nick young Quest and he's had

760
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 3: on his birthday or something, and I said that and

761
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: be sort of half hod to go at me. Chris

762
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: Anderson goes, let's gether, Let's gether gym Chris Beatty, and

763
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, I was so scared. I've never been more

764
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: scared of my life. I'm walking out of Jason Steehens

765
00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: and like, what do I do?

766
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: I pray for you? So there, please anyway punch a

767
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: pissy out of him?

768
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: What did all the boys like get around.

769
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: And watch everyone was watching. I would never be more

770
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: scared in my life.

771
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: They put the gloves and the head gear on, or

772
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: sometimes you didn't wear her gear and they just go

773
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: right o gal Chris Boody right over next Nick Grahame Maddie.

774
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: Remember once I had to fight David Tanger To tell

775
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: you my tangles had thirty on me.

776
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: But we did do it all the time. It's Jason

777
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: Stevens not Carlove that one day like we're doing a

778
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: two on one. Johny Lewis used to come and do

779
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: with us and and Steve you got punching.

780
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: The bait turned around that it was a body body spark.

781
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: One punch was showing the gin knocked him out cold

782
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: in the ring. That's how he was a train They

783
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: can imagine that.

784
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: You go, that's when you were fighting, like the end

785
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: of a season when you're still playing. Was that tough?

786
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 5: Like?

787
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: Was that was that hard on the body?

788
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: No, it depends if I had any injuries from the

789
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: footy season. But like the thing, the thing that I

790
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: found I worked out was hard about it. The club

791
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: wouldn'tlet me allow me to fight after Crew Smiths and

792
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: then eventually has things and on they let me have

793
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: one or two and my body shape I can't say

794
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 3: totally change. But you don't need the more must you've got,

795
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: the more oxygen you need to move around, and boxing

796
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: is like a very cuddier based sport, you know, so

797
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: you don't really need to be that must. You don't

798
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 3: need to do that much weights. So I'd be in

799
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: the preseason, I'll be boxing and I'd be flying at

800
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: all my all my running stuff. I'm not a great runner,

801
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: but i'll be I'm really good all my running more

802
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 3: testing times. I'll be flying. I'd be about one hundred

803
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: hundred and two kilos max footy would start to meet

804
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: coupleies of work and I would get injured. I'd get hurt.

805
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 3: I just have so many bumps and brutes had no

806
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: fat on me, hadn't they wait on me? So I

807
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: worked that out by the sort of the last three

808
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: of weeks in my career. Once once I finished fight

809
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: and I had to get back in the weights, had

810
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: to put weight back on, and they had to change

811
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: my body shape again. So yeah, well the preseasons were

812
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: good when I was boxing as far as quitness and

813
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: wise guys, Yeah, I just I couldn't play that.

814
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 4: But that light away.

815
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't a lot like probably four kilos to

816
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: play one hundred and sort of six kilosa, but it

817
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: doesn't And a lot of it was was mainly my body.

818
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: My whatdy fabercents. We get down below ten percent and

819
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you get back up to

820
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen, which was healthy for me.

821
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Get like when people talk about rugby league right in

822
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: professional sport, and I'm interested in wanting to say about

823
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: boxing because that's next level two up. People say, do

824
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: you get scared when you played rugby league? And you

825
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: weren't scared. What you're scared of was letting your mates down?

826
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: Make it an err or something like that. But boxing,

827
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: like you know, I suppose fear to a certain extent

828
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: isn't essential. Do you feel it when you walk out?

829
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm not.

830
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: I'm not tough enough for craze or something ever. Scared.

831
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: I was scared playing rugby league. Scared fear. There's fear

832
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: and everything you do, I think, and A really doesn't

833
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: have it or I think that line. Particularly in rugby league.

834
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: I I was scared of failing, and I think maybe scared.

835
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 3: Probably that was about letting your teammates down. But I

836
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: was also scared about getting hurt, getting smashed. There's lots

837
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: of things you're scared about, and boxing is the same.

838
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 3: You absolutely get scared, if we got it walking out,

839
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 3: like when you walk out, when you jump in that ring,

840
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: when everyone clears the ring, but you and the other

841
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 3: Blake in the ram. It's the biggest adrenaline dump I've

842
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: ever heard. And that's and that's it. I gotta be honest,

843
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that again.

844
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: That's why boxes come out of retirement all the time.

845
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: That's what happens all and like certain guys have that

846
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: person that they chase that and they try to chase

847
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: it through otherwise when you're tiring. That's probably something I'm

848
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: gonna be careful, but I'm looking forward to that adrenaline

849
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 3: dump again. I can't wait for it to be honest.

850
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: But you know, as I said, it's all going to end.

851
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 1: Let's get like comparing like nerves apprehension, Like you're coming

852
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: down the tunnel Grand Final Night against the Melbourne Store

853
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: on twenty sixteen, and you're walking walking toward the ring

854
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: against Justice Honey. Fear apprehension, nerves.

855
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: I gotta say they're both. They're both similar. Yeah, they're

856
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: both similar because it's what you're trying to do. Maybe

857
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: you remember, like people like you think you get to

858
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: the ring and fights justice honey. Guys are that and

859
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: people are amazed by it, and but for me, it's

860
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: just what I've done. It's just what you do. Same

861
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 3: as rubby lock. People can't believe front rows send back

862
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: and run straight as hard they came at thirteen blocks.

863
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: They can't.

864
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 3: That's why it's so popular because the four hundred people

865
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: playing in a reality each year are doing whatever the

866
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 3: rest society can't do. No matter how much people think

867
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: they can do it, want to do it, and they

868
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: judge them they can't do it. That's what makes rugby

869
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 3: league so popular. And that's a similar thing to boxing.

870
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 3: So it's whatever you're prepared to do. So I prepare

871
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: to fight. I spar a hell of a lot leading

872
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: into a fight, so I sort of know what to

873
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: expect and I'm just prepared for it.

874
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 1: But a state of origin, you oftentimes played eighty minutes

875
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: in the state of origin wherever you're more fatigued final

876
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: around the boxing match, well, seventieth minute. When you're playing

877
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: eighty minutes in an.

878
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: Origin, that's that's a that's a hard yeah, probably probably origin,

879
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 3: Probably origin because in boxing year so you want to

880
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: be throwing punches all the time, but you've got to

881
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: cover up, is real. You can't just be throwing punches,

882
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: really know, You've got to be able to cover up,

883
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: and you've got to defend. So probably probably boxing, but

884
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: it's a different sorry, probably origin, but it's a different fatigue,

885
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 3: like again the tenth round verse. Justice here and I've

886
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: got to be like one thing that annoys you. What

887
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: something said the other day he said, I look at

888
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: this guy. I thinks he's so tough, walks around talking

889
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: about all the fires he's had. Man, I don't talk

890
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: about any fight I've had ever. And if you can

891
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: find any any footage of me or any tape of

892
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: me talking about any fight I've had, I'll take it back.

893
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 4: But I don't talk about him now. I don't talk

894
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 4: about no one.

895
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 3: I'd thought the only one I've ever spoken about when

896
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: asked about it is Justice, honey, because the step in

897
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: the ring with that bloke was unbelievable, like it was

898
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: a something going effort. He's fighting this weekend aver in

899
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 3: Wembley against Ward in the bloke's name. He's he Winsy's

900
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: fight at acceleration to a chance at the world title.

901
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 3: He's now ranked number one in the wall. But there

902
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: was a guy we flew in for sparring who we

903
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: got told him and who he went neck and neck inspired.

904
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: That'd be neck and like fifty to fifty, and I

905
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 3: was and I was sparring this boke and I was

906
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: going pretty good. I thought I was almost fifty fifty

907
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 3: with him, like he's a good fight. He' Olympics and

908
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: all that. So I went into horney confidence. At the

909
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: end of the first round, I turned around to my coin,

910
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 3: Oh fuck, like it was made. I have sparred everyone

911
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: in Australia from joy Ape and tire Mark. Can't everyone?

912
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: All the good fighters hop it?

913
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 3: Back then when I was younger, I'll spart everyone. Jason

914
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: Waiteley's a bloking forth football title cruise. We'll spark everyone.

915
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: And I have never experienced speed. And they broke me

916
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 3: two of my ribs in the first round, like precision punching.

917
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: It was amazing. And now that I've done it and

918
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: I've experienced it, like I know, it's a weird thing

919
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: to say, but it was. It was a pleasure being

920
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: in there with him, just to be able to go

921
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: into experience. That's what everyone said. It said, when you know,

922
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 3: would you find Mike Tyson for a million bucks? Like, oh, yeah,

923
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: of course, but that's just because you want to be

924
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: a tough guy and say yes. But I legitimately think

925
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: to be able to get in the ring of that bloke,

926
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: maybe look at it. You didn't want to get killed,

927
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 3: but in his prime to say you foughting would have.

928
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: Been it'd be a good experience if that's.

929
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: What you want to do, if you got out of

930
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: her life. Yeah, as I said that, that's why I

931
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: think of who he find I'm just like, what an honor.

932
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 4: To go in the ring with bloke.

933
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: It was unbelod Do you have him as the best

934
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: fight he ever fought against?

935
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: That by far? Mate?

936
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: Like, like I said, I'll sparred everyone. Sparring is not fighting,

937
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: but the speed and the precision and the skill. And

938
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 3: he's here one second, there, the next, there the next,

939
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 3: like the angles he could do and just just what

940
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: he could do, how fast and precise he was.

941
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: If you got sparring with your net, are you still

942
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: sparring with Curtis?

943
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

944
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: I do spy with Curtis Big Jackson.

945
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 3: Murray is a bloke who he's a really good He's

946
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: one of I was Anders the world champion, is one

947
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: of his spying partners for for a couple of his fights,

948
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 3: So he spired everyone all around the world. Is actually

949
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 3: on his way to think Argentina on Monday for a

950
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: fight over there. He's really good to me. Jason Waiteler's

951
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: a bloke reviews.

952
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: In the past.

953
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: He fought for the world title in the cruiseweight division.

954
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: So there's a number of guys were gathered. There's you

955
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 3: got internal to gyms and you just spy whoever you can.

956
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: It works, yeah, sometimes. I remember one time we went

957
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: out went out to camp but then you've got to

958
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: travel a bit for sparring too. I went out of

959
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 3: Campbelltown and I went to spar one bloke and want

960
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: to do six rounds. We've done the first round against

961
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 3: him and I did keep a fairit of pressure on

962
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 3: him and he didn't come out for the second round.

963
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: So I said the bloke. The trainers said, well we

964
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: need to spark mate. I sparred five different blakes in

965
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: six rounds. So he done the first round. I sparred

966
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 3: four other blakes and he done the last round just

967
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: fresh blow.

968
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, one of them was the old footy player

969
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 4: I just played for Power. I feel so bad forgetting

970
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: his name Brown No no, no no.

971
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: From's from Penrith and played for Para. I remember his

972
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: name by then, but yeah, it was a really nice

973
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: fellow sparred him, and yeah, got a good working out

974
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: of it.

975
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: That just certainly when you see he broke your ribs

976
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: in the first round and you get in there and

977
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: you realize, mate, I'm against a true pro technician. What

978
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: was what went through your mind when you walk back

979
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: to the to your corner and sat down on the stool.

980
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Well, then in the first I was like wow, like

981
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: I remember walking back on this place is fucking unbelievable,

982
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 3: Like I just I couldn't believe how fast. I couldn't

983
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: believe the angles he could produce and how fast he

984
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: could produce them. And then I don't really remember too

985
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 3: much about the rest of the fight.

986
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 4: What el was disappointed.

987
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: I won one round, one run, and that's what clained

988
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: the fame. One round against the world champion. But what

989
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 3: frustrated me was the last round, round ten, I actually

990
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 3: tacked him. He sort of tried to push me aun

991
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: we fell on the ground. The floor got really wet

992
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 3: and slippery, and we actually both slipped. I fell over

993
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 3: the death of ref count as a knockdown, and then

994
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: after I got up and he stopped the fire about

995
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 3: a minute ago and that sort of a I would

996
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: have liked to finish the fight. I'm not sayingly he

997
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: wouldn't want not knock me out at last minute. I

998
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: was pretty out of my feet, to be honest, but

999
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: I thought, you know the referee is going to stop.

1000
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: Then he probably would have stopped at the fifth or

1001
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: sixth round when I couldn't win the fight, rather than

1002
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: stopping with one minute to go in the last. But yeah,

1003
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: what mate, I just remember, I remember got me trained

1004
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: just trying to turn hit him too the body more.

1005
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: That was one thing I remember. But yeah, man, it

1006
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: was just too good.

1007
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he seems like a tough I wouldn't get

1008
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: in the ring. Is there any of the NFL players

1009
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 2: right now?

1010
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: Finish?

1011
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: Just finish that sentence you started like you had the

1012
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: common sense to just I said.

1013
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't get ring worm. That's what I said. Definitely,

1014
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: I jump in the ring, and I knock most lightweights out.

1015
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm talking to you, seeing Walker.

1016
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he probably still knocked me out. Who

1017
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 2: in the NFL, because there's a few boys of box

1018
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: like Nelson Nelly from Welly. He's bocked that guy in

1019
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: Bali and he's boxed a few boys. Yeah do you

1020
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: who do you look at of the carr and crop

1021
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: and go like.

1022
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I haven't haven't seen any fighter. Would

1023
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: like to see Big Nelson doing. He's a big enough body,

1024
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: so I've heard he goes okay, so that'd be pretty

1025
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: cool if you can jump in, But I don't know

1026
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 3: who else. There's always chat about blakes. Yeah, you never know,

1027
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: Like I'll be honest with that. So many blayers can fight,

1028
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: like jump in the street fight and punt someone. But

1029
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,760
Speaker 3: when you when you're in a ring.

1030
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: It's just as different.

1031
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1032
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're in there for three minutes at a

1033
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: time or two minutes out of time, whatever it might be,

1034
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: it's it's a whole lot different than what you think.

1035
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: And a lot of guys who think they can get

1036
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: in there.

1037
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: Like a lot of football players, when they go out there,

1038
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: some people will see them and they'll see them as

1039
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: a target out and about. And you're the double mate,

1040
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: You're not just a well known football or a football legend.

1041
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: Is to make your boxer as well. And I've read

1042
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: a thing with Mike Tyson where Tyson said you would

1043
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: not believe this When I was young my prime, I

1044
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: would walk out and someone would still want to have

1045
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: a go. Do you get that?

1046
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: It's it's torture, It really is.

1047
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 4: It's it is. And I'll be honest.

1048
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: Last year I said twenty twenty three was my gap year,

1049
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: and I did let loose a fair bit. I've been

1050
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: off for drinks since twenty twenty four. I slip up

1051
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 3: it in Vegas ever this year, but that but I'm

1052
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: back of it again, so I don't drink as much

1053
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 3: as I used to. If it all the moment I'm

1054
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: not something I'm gonna drink again, I will.

1055
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, it is.

1056
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: It is hard, death, very and there's nothing you can

1057
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: You can't throw punch. If you go and throw a

1058
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 3: punch and hurt someone, that's.

1059
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: Well do you do the old Hey, I can't legally

1060
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: hit you because my hands are classes.

1061
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 3: That I was unforgaping a fair but there was actually one.

1062
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 3: It would have been last year. At some stage I

1063
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: was down by the worst of this is worth him

1064
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: and a bloke come up behind me and like you know,

1065
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: the mate comes up behind him grabs you on the neck.

1066
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: He grabbed me on it like hard, hard, too hard.

1067
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: But you know, I thought I just thought of the

1068
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: mate and I turned around. He's like, hey, mate, and

1069
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: just went to shook my hands. I shook his hands

1070
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 3: to day and I was just nice anyway. Sure enough

1071
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 3: he's fucking pricked some prickers video on his mate mates

1072
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: the video, so they've obviously wanted me to react and lucky,

1073
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 3: if you listen, you're a low pricker.

1074
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: And then they stuck it on social media.

1075
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: And the only reason I knew about it was because

1076
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 3: a friend of mine knew them and said, what happened here?

1077
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: And I didn't actually do any actually turn shook the

1078
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: bloke's hand, but there obviously wanted me to react.

1079
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: You're a distrass.

1080
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: What's the matter with some people?

1081
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: They want to see that these days?

1082
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 3: But the war.

1083
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 2: Eving, you'd think you'd think like you wouldn't. I personally wouldn't.

1084
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: You wouldn't go up to a bloke who you know

1085
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: you can fight, and it's been playing regularly for a

1086
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: long time, try to pull him one. I remember when

1087
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: we were in Byron Bay twenty twenty in Covid we

1088
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: had a big trip after the premiership for Storm. Me

1089
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: and Cheese were at the pie shop in Byron Bay,

1090
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 2: which if you're in Byron on a late night. Usually

1091
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: there's kebabs around here. You go and get a pie

1092
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: at like three am. It's awesome. They got the best pastry.

1093
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 2: Gy appattire was there. We're talking to Giant. This bloke

1094
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: comes up to him, knew he was a fighter and

1095
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: like this young surfy dude would have been like nineteen,

1096
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: and just sledged him like relentless, almost wanted him to

1097
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 2: knock him out. And Brandon was holding the kid back, going.

1098
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: Like you might die the you literally may like it.

1099
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: It's not even I don't know what you're trying to

1100
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: get out of this, like just a drunk idiot obviously,

1101
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: but I cannot understand the some of the judgment on

1102
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: these days, going oh, like this would be funny.

1103
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: We talk about Gian the best cruise wait in the world,

1104
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: so it can happen to anyone, and unfortunately does that

1105
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: for me.

1106
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gal, last fight.

1107
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: I'm forty.

1108
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm forty four in August, which is three or four

1109
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: weeks after this fight. I've been retired for a class

1110
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: of three years now. I never thought i'd in boxing.

1111
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: I'm a footy player. I wonder when the premiership done.

1112
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 3: That played from my stay player for my country. Boxing

1113
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 3: was as something I never got to do for money.

1114
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: That's the reason I've accepted the two minute rounds. I've

1115
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: called myself a prize spot from day one. I'm not

1116
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 3: going to change that. If I can get the same

1117
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 3: amount of money for fighting for sixteen minutes as I

1118
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: can for twenty four, might as well do it.

1119
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: So I'm going to do it. But this will be

1120
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 4: the last fight.

1121
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: You've been torturing, so don't I mean, you play it

1122
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: till the toughest been evolved, till the toughest sports since

1123
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: You've been a very young boy, you know, and and

1124
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: a lot of blakes. You know, we always talk about,

1125
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: you know, rugby league and rightfully sail about the CTWO.

1126
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: But boxing is a whole nother level. And I've heard

1127
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: you before talk, I've had conversations before, and i've heard

1128
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: your slur before. Today you're as good as goal right,

1129
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: You're clear as a whistle.

1130
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: I did know I slurred before.

1131
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: Actually maybe I was just run in Vegas.

1132
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: Have not heavily. But you know, I don't know if

1133
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: anyone said that, but I've picked it up before, but

1134
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: today I don't know whether before you're tired or whatever.

1135
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: But you you're sweet. Do you ever think about it?

1136
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: Gal?

1137
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: Do you?

1138
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1139
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: And it's because there's so much chat about it's not

1140
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 3: to not to think about. Because I talk in the media.

1141
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: I do notice, like on radio, by the back end

1142
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 3: of a seven hour day, I do get tired, and

1143
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 3: I actually think myself. Am I speaking clearly so that

1144
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 3: that does happen. But I said, I've had I've had

1145
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 3: my brain scammed, my brain tested. I went, I went

1146
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 3: and spent two days with professors up in Newcastle, and

1147
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 3: that everything tested.

1148
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 4: They set them in a good spot.

1149
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: But they said, we just don't we can't give you

1150
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: a long term diagnosis because we just don't know how

1151
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: it's going to be. Like five years. They said, for

1152
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: five years you'll be okay. And I said, and I said,

1153
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: in five years, that's like's three years ago.

1154
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 4: Now, Yes, we just don't know. We don't know.

1155
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: But they they said, the brain can heal, can heal.

1156
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: That does get better. So I think there's a lot

1157
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 3: of people that say they did say to me, if

1158
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: anyone tries to tell you got CT or you're going

1159
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: to get CTE, don't listen to all they're trying to

1160
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 3: do is create a hysteria because they're probably looking for

1161
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 3: funding as far as doctors go, right, So these doctors said,

1162
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: you cannot at the moment. I don't know if it's

1163
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: changed the last three years, but we cannot tell you

1164
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 3: have CT into your diet cut your brain open. And

1165
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: he said, there's been lots of cases where there's been

1166
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 3: boxes fight, There's all sorts of different people have had

1167
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 3: head trauma. Alcoholics, drug addicts who cut their brain open,

1168
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: not a problem with them. And then there's women who

1169
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: have never had contact in life get dementia and things

1170
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 3: like that. So it's look, obviously, going and standing on

1171
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: a highway your chance to hit by a car. And

1172
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 3: that's that's what I'm doing. I'm fighting. I'm playing rugby

1173
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: league for a long time, so my chances might be more.

1174
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 4: But you know, we just don't know. How are your

1175
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 4: kids now sixteen? Fourteen?

1176
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: I was skilled sixteen, My son's fourteen, and then two

1177
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: girls are ten and seven.

1178
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 2: How did they go?

1179
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: Like your wife, she's a pretty tough woman. I've meant

1180
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: a couple of times, and she's seeing your play football

1181
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: all the time. So step on the What about the kids?

1182
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: As they started to get older and they're seeing dad

1183
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: hopping the ring against like a justice Hernie in that.

1184
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: Did it impact them much?

1185
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: No, they like My oldest daughter is at sixteen, she's

1186
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: sort of in the rain world at the moment, so

1187
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: she doesn't care too much about it. My son, my

1188
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: last couple of fights, I let him come due respect

1189
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: to high John that I was pretty certain I was

1190
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: going to win if I if I just sort of

1191
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: turned up and had to do. And the first one

1192
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 3: was was going to be dusty there for a while.

1193
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, they forgot the just he come to those fights,

1194
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: and I was happy to let him be there.

1195
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 4: He'll come to this one, but I'm not golowd to

1196
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: be in.

1197
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: The corner of this one. This is a bit a

1198
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: bit different on there. There's going to be a few

1199
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: more people at these ones. But he'll come to the fight.

1200
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: He's okay with it. He was looking he wasn't the

1201
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: first fight off what up in coins and he was.

1202
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 3: He got scared. He got scared they getting punch. He

1203
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: wasn't happy with it. He doesn't come and watch me

1204
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: spar anymore after that. After that night, he won't come

1205
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 3: watch me spa. So I think he's at the age

1206
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 3: now around the stands and he's a little bit concerned

1207
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 3: that the two the two young ones.

1208
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: They just they's going on, Yeah, you're worse at home.

1209
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 3: Sharky supporters, Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, they don't

1210
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: really talk about anyone else, but they like going down

1211
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: the Sharkis games and yeah they Sharky.

1212
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 2: Who's their player?

1213
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: I think Nick is probably everyone's player.

1214
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: A just finally gout what do you think about? What

1215
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: do you think about the Sharky's issue, Because I just

1216
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: as soon as I fall in love with them and say, yep,

1217
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: they were definitely a top full side. Yeah, they're a contender.

1218
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: They put in a blood of performance.

1219
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's been a little bit frustrating when you're

1220
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 3: sort of in This is the thing about rugby league

1221
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: and you know, as your name maybe like you, what

1222
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: you do on the field, all that matters. It doesn't

1223
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 3: matter what your week's been like, how you prepared, what

1224
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: goes good, what goes bad, what you do on the field,

1225
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: all that matters. And yeah, a couple of weeks ago

1226
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: the Sharks had a really poor lost. I knew they

1227
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: had a bad week that week. They had a lot

1228
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: of players in trains a couple of injury clouds and

1229
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: they went out there and performed like that. But the

1230
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 3: fans don't care about it. They don't care about what's

1231
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: happened during the week. They care about the performers that

1232
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: you put in and they've they've let themselves down on

1233
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 3: a couple of occasions like that. So they've just got

1234
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: to get better at that. And they're probably getting towards

1235
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: the stage now this year, next year maybe where you know,

1236
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: the learning phase or they're getting together phase is gone.

1237
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 4: It's about what you do as a team and they.

1238
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 3: I think time's been Playing together is pretty important in

1239
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: this competition, and they've had they've got that start. This

1240
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: year is the Yeah, they've got that. They've got some

1241
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 3: guys coming towards end of the contracts, so they want

1242
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: to keep this team together and do something together. They've

1243
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: got to do it Adam Adam Fan or Blake at

1244
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: the side, which is probably the best middle of the competition.

1245
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 3: So they've got the makings there. It's just up them

1246
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: to start believing in themselves and in big like this

1247
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: is the thing about the Sharks, and you know, they

1248
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 3: seem to be so good for the majority of the game.

1249
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: But sometimes at the back end of the game, when

1250
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 3: there's big has come up where you that's when your

1251
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 3: big name players stand up and get it done. That

1252
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 3: they've probably fallen over a couple of times there. And

1253
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: you know, I don't at him even and Nick Everyone

1254
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 3: looks at Nicko and I love Nick is a great guy.

1255
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: He's terrific, terrific. And what I felt so so for

1256
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 3: was the Tigers game at like heart hit the forty

1257
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: meter field goal and they hit the post and bounced

1258
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 3: directly that way, like five cent to meets hits going

1259
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 3: straight through the post. That's all he needs, That's all

1260
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 3: the blatant needs some to fall his way. And I

1261
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: just feel it, like Niko, if you listen, keep doing

1262
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: what you're doing, keep working hard, because it's going to

1263
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 3: turn like look, not that not that he's done anything wrong,

1264
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 3: but he's going to have one of their moments four

1265
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 3: for him, and when he does, the lords click friends.

1266
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: But about the previous the rest of the game, he's

1267
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 4: a gun.

1268
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 3: But when you're that I understand the pressure and the

1269
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: expectation in that position. But he's so close.

1270
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: To getting It's funny ga watching him in the last

1271
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 1: four or five weeks. I think he's been really good.

1272
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: It's almost almost back who's gally in form. But what

1273
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: happens is there's so many people in the game that

1274
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 1: don't know the game, and so when someone starts saying,

1275
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: oh geez, he's struggling, he's struggling, he.

1276
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: Starts I know.

1277
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 4: You know what. You know.

1278
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: The worst thing for that has been super Coach because

1279
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: people go if people look at super shows goes. But

1280
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: this look at he only got sixty points, whereas this

1281
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: half got one hundred and ten points. He was quiet.

1282
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: But you look at the you look at what they

1283
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: do for the team, how they create for other players.

1284
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: The week of the Nick thing, I think we were

1285
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 3: or two later, Latrell kicked the fifty minute field goal

1286
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 3: and scored a try. I'll be honest, Latroll done nothing

1287
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: and I love the Joys and absolutely superstar, superstar and

1288
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: he's awesome. But for the previous seventy nine minutes of

1289
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: the game, he just cruised around, caught the ball, passed

1290
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: his wing as you take it back. But you know what,

1291
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 3: when the big moments come around, who puts his hand

1292
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: up fifty meter field guy and then scores a try?

1293
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 3: At the back end of the game is to obsult

1294
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: in the wound. But yeah, like this plays with that,

1295
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 3: especially the special talents. But again I feel sorry for

1296
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 3: guys that Nicola, who are doing killing it for seventy

1297
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: nine minutes of the game.

1298
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 4: Then when the games are want everyone was to judge.

1299
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: You on that.

1300
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you have any players like that? Like who

1301
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: you were someone that grind out eighty minute performance, show up,

1302
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: fill the space, do the ship that people didn't want

1303
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: to do. Who was the player in your career that

1304
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: you looked at and you go like you used to

1305
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: try to fucking get the best out because you knew

1306
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: how fucking talented they were.

1307
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: Ben Pomo was probably one of them, Oh really, because

1308
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: he made up they ever met a blake stronger or

1309
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: more athletically gift than he was.

1310
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 4: But it was just so lazy.

1311
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: It was like poor Pronsee was another one made Poor

1312
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 3: Fronsi was the most talented gift the club ever seen,

1313
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 3: but he was just he was just too lazy. Jimmy

1314
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 3: Mulaney was a jim Mulaney was. It was probably a

1315
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: little bit like that, remember one day and that Jimmy

1316
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: wouldn't do waight you'd muck around the gym all the time.

1317
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 3: The trainer said, anyone, Jimmy, pull your head in, start

1318
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: training or go on, yes okay, and turn up the

1319
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 3: next day like nothing happened. And I'm just like, are

1320
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 3: you fucking serious? Like he guess what he told me

1321
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: to go am? I said, to give you the option,

1322
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: hopefull you pull your head and he goes you just

1323
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 3: have to go on one name like he was just

1324
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: but then I meet once semi finals rolled around. I've

1325
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 3: never seen a changing attitude. He led led like in

1326
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: video sessions he'd bring a pack of chips in and

1327
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 3: purposely just to take the piss and.

1328
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: Just I'll tell you what Flannel would have hated.

1329
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: I'd heard he get it once with belly ache. There

1330
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: was a morting video session when he was Melbourne his

1331
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: first year and they're all doing something and also you

1332
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: know what, and he's just gone.

1333
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: You know what? That was That was pre game, so

1334
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: he was he hadn't even debuted yet pre and for

1335
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 2: those people who have seen Craig Bellamy before a game,

1336
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 2: you don't even speak to him like before the boys

1337
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: go warm up, because he's just an anxious mess. And

1338
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: he used to try to get anybody who wasn't in

1339
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 2: the eighteen get out of the change room, just get

1340
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 2: out of belly ACH's way under the boys as a

1341
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 2: sort of plane to Maloney went in there, got a

1342
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: coke zero from the fridge and a pack of Smith's

1343
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 2: crips and were sitting on the massage table while everyone

1344
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: was stretching, just eating him. Apparently it was like just

1345
00:54:54,520 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: so fucking loud, says, get the fuck out of this change.

1346
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 3: But as soon as semi finals right around, mate, lead

1347
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: lead video sessions, lead train sessions, an amazing guy. We

1348
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't won the comment about him. I remember that we

1349
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: played the Dogs when the Dogs have been as eighteen

1350
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 3: and il we come back and we scored. They scored

1351
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: three tries, kicked all the guys. We'd got four tries

1352
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: by the back end of the game, and we're on

1353
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: eighteen points each with them. So Jimmy must kick one goal,

1354
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 3: couldn't couln't keep nothing else. He kicked from the sideline

1355
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: to win the game. Bell rung and everything I said,

1356
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 3: Jimmy would want to give it to someone else because

1357
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: you kicked one from three, because you're fucking serious, Like

1358
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 3: it looked at me like I'm a dickead. I said, no,

1359
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 3: he please kick this easy, kicks it from the sideline. Oh,

1360
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 3: right now it's on the side to win the game.

1361
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: But that's just a h was a free.

1362
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 2: Remember Nathan Nathan Cleary were saying that when Jimmy Maloney

1363
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: went to Penrith with him, it was just like I

1364
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: just learned like everything that I sort of learned coming in.

1365
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 2: It was like such a such a nice lesson from Jimmy,

1366
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: just to see how you make an error and in

1367
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 2: five seconds it's just like water just roll straight off in.

1368
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 2: You're just rare blokes.

1369
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 4: Oh it wasn't five seconds, it was point five on

1370
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 4: the second.

1371
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: Really slayer a clipping lines. Those blokes are blessed. We

1372
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: just just got.

1373
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:04,919
Speaker 2: Joe like that.

1374
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 5: Actually, I got a question for Gal for his finish up. Actually,

1375
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 5: I found it really interesting when you spoke about back

1376
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 5: end of your career when you're boxing and then going

1377
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 5: back to pre season you lost your tread weight and

1378
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,439
Speaker 5: you'd come back and you get injuries at the early

1379
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 5: part of the year. Obviously in the like, I'd love

1380
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 5: to see what your stance is on the last five years.

1381
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,280
Speaker 5: The game's quickened up so much it's actually forced middle

1382
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 5: forwards mean coop debut through COVID, it's actually forced middle

1383
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 5: forwards and pretty much all forwards in general to be smaller.

1384
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: And obviously we're seeing an increase in particularly soft tissue

1385
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 5: injuries in forwards like Jacob Sophieti, for example, has had

1386
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 5: two calf injuries to start the year in twenty twenty five.

1387
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 5: What do you think on do you think there's a correlation.

1388
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 3: There, Well, probably has to be somewhere. I mean, I

1389
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: think how many forwards you see to hamstrings back in

1390
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 3: the day. Now, I know everyone's getting bigger and fitter

1391
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: and faster. I do think when they the sixty Gay

1392
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 3: come in that changed the game. And I remember when

1393
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 3: it was sixty go all over the park big, like

1394
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: I was a big Nelson almost lost to the game,

1395
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: Like Nelson was non existing.

1396
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 4: He just he couldn't.

1397
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: The game was too fast and it was too big.

1398
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: Now it's come back a bit where I think that

1399
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: they'd come back in the game a little bit. But yeah,

1400
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: I do agree that the bigger players than Nelson's like,

1401
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: they still got a part in the game, but they're

1402
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 3: probably not playing it for as long as they once

1403
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: did could injury wise, I'm I'm not a doctor or

1404
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 3: phys he had to know enough about the injuries. But

1405
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: you know, I think if it's if we're seeing more

1406
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 3: while the game's gotten fast, there probably as to be

1407
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 3: some sort of correlation.

1408
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 4: They're how we get around it.

1409
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm not too and but you know, and the thing

1410
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: about it is gal Jack Coops is that every time

1411
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: you change the real or a certain rule, there will

1412
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: always be injuries as they're different injuries. And I like

1413
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: the I like the limited inner change and I like

1414
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: the speed of the game because what it does it

1415
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: does take juice out of the really big blokes they're

1416
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: like for me, a fatigue injury is less than an

1417
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: explosive injury. Like if you've got blokes on the field,

1418
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: big blokes that are fresh, unlimited in the change back

1419
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: in the mate, they'd just be charging at you like

1420
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: all games. And you know, have fresh blakes on the field.

1421
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: Just who one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty

1422
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: five kilos made the damage that they would do Like

1423
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:13,919
Speaker 1: it was just it was just over the top.

1424
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: See like it allows it allows bokes like Kurtman when

1425
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: he plays lock when even when Connor Watson plays plays

1426
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: stints at Locked. It brings those blokes into the game.

1427
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: It'll it'll be good for cheese l Brandon Smith at

1428
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: South if they put him at Lock.

1429
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeh.

1430
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 2: Like it brings those kind of players in.

1431
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: And the other thing it does it actually you get

1432
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: it rewards blokes like Galmore because blokes who train their

1433
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: asses off to play eighty minutes and can do those

1434
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: long minutes. Mate, what used to happen. We used to

1435
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: get repeat sets and the opposition two middles to put

1436
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: their hand up, go have their ball one blake come

1437
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: on and when they got possession back hands up again.

1438
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: Like you were playing against some teams that did over

1439
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: forty interchanges in the.

1440
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 2: Gaar shit, unless you're paying ass who just he's just

1441
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: got sized power and stays out there's okay, Well mate,

1442
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: you're going to hit up the highway.

1443
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: Gal up to new corts of the night.

1444
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Gal. That we do to you again, brother,

1445
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: Thanks you to you guys, and good luck, good luck

1446
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 1: to fight man.