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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in to this podcast from Body and

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Speaker 1: Soul called healthy Ish. I hope you're having a fantastic day,

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Speaker 1: a healthy day. I am the host of Felicity Harley.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined today by Ava Rodrigris.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: She has a plethora of qualifications ranging from joint mobility Specialist,

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Speaker 1: comprehensive Pilarates manual therapy, and Level four strength and conditioning coach.

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Speaker 1: She's actually a Pilarates educator and she's worried about the

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Speaker 1: one size fits all Polarti's studio approach. She discusses that

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Speaker 1: today and shares her advice on how you can find

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Speaker 1: the correct class for your body's needs. Listening to Extra

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Speaker 1: Healthy Ish, a big sister podcast where she talks about

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Speaker 1: the importance of mobility for longevity. You can search for

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Speaker 1: that one where you get you podcasts. Ava, welcome to

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Speaker 1: healthy Ish.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. It's very nice

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Speaker 2: to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nice to have you here. Finally, we've taken a

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Speaker 1: few attempts to get you here. But before we kick off,

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Speaker 1: remind us of the benefits of polarates. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is your passion, why is it so good for us? So?

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Speaker 2: As a movement specialist. Obviously my love started with clinical

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Speaker 2: pilatas back in London. And the reason pilatas is so beneficial,

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Speaker 2: it's because it's a mind and body practice. So it

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Speaker 2: stops you in your tracks and makes you actually think

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Speaker 2: about what's occurring during movement and that sets a very

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Speaker 2: good foundation for anything else that you want to do.

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Speaker 1: That's a great description actually, because you're right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not a I have done platies, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a plartess lover. I'm or a yoga person. But

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Speaker 1: it's you feel it in your body and your mind

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Speaker 1: when you walk out of a pilates class.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a lifestyle. Hans why he almost has a

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Speaker 2: cult following.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say almost. I think it does. What

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Speaker 1: do you love about polarates.

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Speaker 2: For me is it sets the tone for every other

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Speaker 2: movement in the sense of understanding. So we talk a

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Speaker 2: lot about in fitness about format technique. Now having a

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Speaker 2: multifaceted background, I am going to say this, your format

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Speaker 2: technique at the end of the day is going to

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Speaker 2: be dependent on the movement variability that you spend time earning,

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Speaker 2: which is entirely different from pilatus But what polatus does

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Speaker 2: is that it makes you think about the action from

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Speaker 2: A to B, so your execution is more mindful and

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Speaker 2: therefore you can stop yourself in your tracks when if

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Speaker 2: you say you're in the gym and your load is

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Speaker 2: too high, then you know, I'm not ready for this load.

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Speaker 2: Yet let me drop it a little bit, maybe add

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Speaker 2: more volume to not break down down the line. Because

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Speaker 2: I think in training what happens is that we go hard,

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Speaker 2: we go fast, and we don't understand that because for

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Speaker 2: most of us, the gym becomes our sport. Unless you're

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Speaker 2: an athlete, the gym becomes your sport. The studio becomes

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Speaker 2: your sport. Therefore, you want to have longevity in it.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have longevity in it, how do you

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Speaker 2: have the chance to stay functional. So sometimes you have

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Speaker 2: to regress in order to progress. And that's where pilatus

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Speaker 2: if you're trained well.

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Speaker 1: And that's the case, isn't it if you're trained well

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Speaker 1: Because there are so many studios around now and so

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Speaker 1: many people and so many online studios and places that

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Speaker 1: bit of a problem with this kind of one size

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Speaker 2: Look in terms of understand if you come from the

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Speaker 2: standpoint of biomechanics and physiology, you will never get as

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Speaker 2: much out of a program as you would do if

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Speaker 2: it's individually tailored to your need. When there is a

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Speaker 2: group session, it is impossible. No matter who you are,

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Speaker 2: how long you've been in the industry, you can't cater

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Speaker 2: to ten people ten people different people's problems.

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Speaker 1: You don't know them all. If you don't know them,

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Speaker 1: are absolutely even know the people turning up to your

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But also you only have that hour forty five

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Speaker 2: plazas we have the luxury of having modifications and props.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless we cannot fool ourselves to think that is

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Speaker 2: get anything and everything. And it's very hard as a

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Speaker 2: consumer to know who is educated when it's not your expertise.

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Speaker 2: I just need to throw two anatomical words and you're

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Speaker 2: gonna go, oh, she knows, she knows her stuff, right.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that I want to say is

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Speaker 2: that people often base a good class on a sensations

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Speaker 2: that they were told they should feel like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: it was so challenging, so I crawled out of class.

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Speaker 2: I sweat that it was fun and Dwarfels are high,

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Speaker 2: therefore it was a good class. And I can't walk

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Speaker 2: the next day, and I can't walk the next day.

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Speaker 2: But if you again fall back on anatomy physiology, which

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Speaker 2: science is a beautiful thing, can almost almost never lead

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Speaker 2: you wrong. Depends on the interpretation, because that comes into

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Speaker 2: play too, is the fact that you want to spend

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Speaker 2: more time building than repairing. There's always repairing involved, but

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Speaker 2: if you cannot walk for a day or a week,

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Speaker 2: you need to put that into question.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was some chatter in Australia last y

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Speaker 1: for regulation around the plates industry because there is none, Right,

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Speaker 1: what would you like to see happen?

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Speaker 2: So I would like to see because I'm a continued

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Speaker 2: education provider. So I think it starts all the way

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Speaker 2: from the educators because what we promise needs to be

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Speaker 2: supervise us. We need to have a baseline that we

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Speaker 2: need to provide no matter the discipline. But do you

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Speaker 2: love yoga or pilatus? This and the end of the

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Speaker 2: day's movement. The anatomy of the human body is the same.

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Speaker 2: So unless you and I'm gonna go to bed, wake

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Speaker 2: up tomorrow and grow wings out of our scalpela, the

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Speaker 2: anatomy is the same. Your shoulder, my shoulder, your hip,

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Speaker 2: my hip needs to be doing the same thing. The

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Speaker 2: question is why isn't it and how can we create

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Speaker 1: That direction right absolutely, So for people listening, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the future. What can we do today about making sure

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Speaker 1: our studio, our class, our structure, our instructor is informed,

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Speaker 1: well educated and teaching well. Not a harmful version of polarates,

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Speaker 1: a helpful version of polartates.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a really good question. Is a

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Speaker 2: twofold question because number one side is the instructor's own

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Speaker 2: responsibility to make sure that she is always learning. Now,

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Speaker 2: the problem with that is that no matter what you learn,

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Speaker 2: because under the umbrella, if I'm learning something new, but

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Speaker 2: everything learning, is your learning more value for you to

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Speaker 2: understand the human body more? Or are you only spending

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Speaker 2: time learning choreography? Big difference, And sometimes people misunderstand this.

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Speaker 2: They go, but when I learned this choreography, they also

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Speaker 2: and actually bringing it into your choreography, you will never

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Speaker 2: hit your mark properly. I see it all the time

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Speaker 2: what I do. The other part of that is, as

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Speaker 2: an instructor on feel Feelings can steer you wrong. Of course,

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Speaker 2: you need to be feeling good after what you do.

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Speaker 2: But if you have a nagging neck pain twenty four

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Speaker 2: hours later, it might not be the instruction. It might

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Speaker 2: be that the class is not suitable for you. So

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Speaker 2: you also need to bear a responsibility of doing your

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Speaker 2: due diligence. But unfortunately, studying is time consuming and it's

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Speaker 2: a side hustle. There is science behind this. There is

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Speaker 2: vast anatomy that goes into this. You don't want to

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Speaker 1: So as a consumer, we should check qualifications hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: check in with how your results your results, Yeah, not

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Speaker 1: just how I mean the feeling. Still, you still need

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Speaker 2: But it can't be your only biomarker. That's what I

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Speaker 2: want to say. It is a biomarker, but it's not

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Speaker 2: So am I how do we measure success through results? Right?

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Speaker 2: If you haven't had results in terms of that you

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Speaker 2: visibly can see it or actually feel it as you're

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Speaker 2: moving right, then are you spending your time well? Like

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Speaker 2: my husband says, where do you want to shoot your bullets? Right?

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Speaker 2: Because you only get some and.

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Speaker 1: It's not just time, it is also money. AVA lovely

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Speaker 1: having you on healthy Ish, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you so much, thank you well.

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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to pilates or yoga or

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Do you ask for help? I don't,

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