1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apodjay production. 2 00:00:10,121 --> 00:00:13,521 Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the 3 00:00:13,601 --> 00:00:16,441 Speaker 2: land on which we gathered today and pay our respects 4 00:00:16,481 --> 00:00:19,641 Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect 5 00:00:19,721 --> 00:00:22,881 Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today. 6 00:00:25,081 --> 00:00:28,801 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara. 7 00:00:28,961 --> 00:00:30,561 Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we learn. 8 00:00:30,561 --> 00:00:31,841 Speaker 2: Laugh, and level up together. 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,601 Speaker 3: Let's go deep, let the emotions flow and find the 10 00:00:34,681 --> 00:00:36,161 Speaker 3: lessons to grow and Glow. 11 00:00:36,521 --> 00:00:38,321 Speaker 4: Nothing is off the table with Grow and Glow and 12 00:00:38,361 --> 00:00:39,881 Speaker 4: we're here to be your expander. 13 00:00:43,801 --> 00:00:45,241 Speaker 5: Hello, Welcome back to Growing. 14 00:00:45,321 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: Hello, we have gotten a very exciting guest on today 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,361 Speaker 3: we do. 16 00:00:50,521 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 5: It's a Monday episode. 17 00:00:51,641 --> 00:00:55,121 Speaker 4: She's a long one and it's all around trauma. 18 00:00:55,361 --> 00:00:55,761 Speaker 5: Yeah. 19 00:00:55,801 --> 00:00:57,801 Speaker 4: This is something we get asked about a lot, and 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,921 Speaker 4: we really wanted to get an expert on board, and 21 00:01:00,961 --> 00:01:03,321 Speaker 4: there was no one better than LEVI. 22 00:01:03,641 --> 00:01:07,481 Speaker 3: So many amazing pieces of advice throughout this episode. Honestly, 23 00:01:07,641 --> 00:01:11,001 Speaker 3: I would grab a paper and a pen and sit 24 00:01:11,081 --> 00:01:13,601 Speaker 3: down and write out any takeaways that you have because 25 00:01:13,601 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: there were so many things throughout this conversation where I 26 00:01:16,041 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: was like, Wow, I. 27 00:01:17,161 --> 00:01:19,241 Speaker 4: Also feel like this is a type of episode for 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,321 Speaker 4: me personally. Sometimes some of the words he uses I 29 00:01:22,321 --> 00:01:23,881 Speaker 4: would need to go back and listen to a couple 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,081 Speaker 4: of times just to like really get it in my brain. 31 00:01:26,601 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: But yeah, he is incredible. He's been my business partner 32 00:01:28,801 --> 00:01:32,041 Speaker 4: for the last fifteen years, one of my closest male friends. 33 00:01:32,241 --> 00:01:36,121 Speaker 4: I literally call him Walking Google. If there's any questions, yeah, 34 00:01:36,161 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: you have about health, wellness, your physical body, trauma, pain, 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: hormone skin, sleep, relationships, parenting, Like he is someone that 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,841 Speaker 4: just never stops learning and is so open to so 37 00:01:49,881 --> 00:01:52,041 Speaker 4: many new ways to heal your body and heal your 38 00:01:52,081 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: life and to live your most authentic life. 39 00:01:53,921 --> 00:01:56,841 Speaker 3: I had an incredible experience with Levi, and like seeing 40 00:01:56,841 --> 00:01:59,681 Speaker 3: what he can actually do firsthand was so amazing. At 41 00:01:59,681 --> 00:02:02,401 Speaker 3: the Ultimate Girl's Day Out, I did a breath work 42 00:02:02,441 --> 00:02:05,761 Speaker 3: session with him and just so much came up and 43 00:02:05,801 --> 00:02:07,841 Speaker 3: it was just such an amazing experience. So I was 44 00:02:07,881 --> 00:02:09,801 Speaker 3: so excited to catch up and have a chat with 45 00:02:09,881 --> 00:02:11,881 Speaker 3: him today. And if you guys want to hear more 46 00:02:11,881 --> 00:02:14,441 Speaker 3: about my experience as well. Is it episode nine, Yeah, 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:15,881 Speaker 3: right back from last season. 48 00:02:16,041 --> 00:02:18,241 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have our next retreat actually coming up 49 00:02:18,321 --> 00:02:20,921 Speaker 4: August eleventh, up in Brisbane, and he also does a 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,961 Speaker 4: stress workshop on that day which he teaches you so 51 00:02:24,081 --> 00:02:26,681 Speaker 4: many new tools and tips and tricks on how to 52 00:02:27,001 --> 00:02:28,601 Speaker 4: manage your stress in your life and really have a 53 00:02:28,601 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 4: deep understanding on the different types of stress and how 54 00:02:30,881 --> 00:02:32,401 Speaker 4: stress can actually serve you. 55 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 5: It's really interesting. 56 00:02:33,881 --> 00:02:35,641 Speaker 4: So if that's something you've always wanted to learn about, 57 00:02:35,641 --> 00:02:37,361 Speaker 4: you come along to that day as well. But yeah, 58 00:02:37,401 --> 00:02:41,001 Speaker 4: your episode and how life changing that one breathwork session 59 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: was insane. Yeah, So anyways, let's jump on with LEVI. 60 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Good to be here. 61 00:02:46,641 --> 00:02:47,801 Speaker 5: We're here today to talk. 62 00:02:47,641 --> 00:02:51,321 Speaker 4: About trauma, and I feel like this is your passion, 63 00:02:51,561 --> 00:02:54,481 Speaker 4: your expertise, this is what you I just here on 64 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: this earth to help people through and I don't feel 65 00:02:56,401 --> 00:02:59,041 Speaker 4: like there's too many people that really do this. And 66 00:02:59,081 --> 00:03:00,761 Speaker 4: I feel like at the moment, trauma, as we were 67 00:03:00,761 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: talking about the other day, Levi, it's quite a trendy word. 68 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,881 Speaker 5: But yeah, let's start from the beginning. What made you. 69 00:03:07,761 --> 00:03:10,921 Speaker 4: Come into being a trauma and toxin therapist, Like, how 70 00:03:10,921 --> 00:03:12,721 Speaker 4: did you get into this? Where did it begin for you? 71 00:03:13,641 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 6: Well, basically the way that I see trauma, right, And 72 00:03:16,841 --> 00:03:19,841 Speaker 6: it is a very trendy word, but for me, trauma 73 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,201 Speaker 6: is just what I call blocked stress or when stress. 74 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,401 Speaker 6: You've been under a stress, whether it's an acute, severe 75 00:03:26,401 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 6: stress or an acute massive moment that has caused trauma. 76 00:03:30,161 --> 00:03:33,161 Speaker 6: Where a stress is basically something that is telling your 77 00:03:33,161 --> 00:03:36,121 Speaker 6: body that, hey, we're in danger here and there's something 78 00:03:36,281 --> 00:03:39,321 Speaker 6: very important to our survival you need to pay attention 79 00:03:39,441 --> 00:03:41,681 Speaker 6: to right now. A stress is something that we have 80 00:03:41,761 --> 00:03:44,361 Speaker 6: to adapt to. So you'll see people's blood pressure go 81 00:03:44,481 --> 00:03:46,361 Speaker 6: up and then it comes back down, and we're supposed 82 00:03:46,361 --> 00:03:49,441 Speaker 6: to adapt and then come back to balance. Adapt, come 83 00:03:49,481 --> 00:03:53,041 Speaker 6: back to balance. And what happens is many times, whether 84 00:03:53,081 --> 00:03:56,441 Speaker 6: it's a severe acute or it's that chronic cumulative stress, 85 00:03:56,481 --> 00:03:59,601 Speaker 6: it's just low level, but it just builds and we adapt, 86 00:04:00,041 --> 00:04:03,361 Speaker 6: but we don't fully come back, and this stress gets 87 00:04:03,441 --> 00:04:06,521 Speaker 6: stuck or remains in us. And whether it remains in 88 00:04:06,561 --> 00:04:09,641 Speaker 6: our emotional sphere or whether the body goes, hey i've 89 00:04:09,641 --> 00:04:11,201 Speaker 6: got this forew you know it's too much for you 90 00:04:11,241 --> 00:04:12,841 Speaker 6: at the moment. I'm going to store this in your 91 00:04:12,841 --> 00:04:15,001 Speaker 6: heart or in your liver or in your throat. And 92 00:04:15,041 --> 00:04:15,721 Speaker 6: this is where our. 93 00:04:15,641 --> 00:04:17,161 Speaker 1: Physical disease comes from. 94 00:04:17,241 --> 00:04:20,321 Speaker 6: So when I say trauma, where I've come to it 95 00:04:20,361 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 6: from is probably different to almost anybody else. I see 96 00:04:24,481 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 6: it as a stress response and an inability to adapt completely, 97 00:04:28,481 --> 00:04:31,521 Speaker 6: and an accumulation or a blockage of the energy and 98 00:04:31,561 --> 00:04:34,001 Speaker 6: our body and the stress in us. So where I've 99 00:04:34,001 --> 00:04:36,801 Speaker 6: come to it from is I've started, you know, twenty 100 00:04:36,841 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 6: five years ago in fitness for about six months until 101 00:04:40,281 --> 00:04:43,561 Speaker 6: I realized that you can't train people into health, and 102 00:04:43,601 --> 00:04:45,561 Speaker 6: so that I became a nutritionist, and then I studied 103 00:04:45,641 --> 00:04:49,641 Speaker 6: naturopathy and homeopathy and that was where the very beginning began, 104 00:04:49,761 --> 00:04:52,441 Speaker 6: because it teaches you that the cause is so much 105 00:04:52,481 --> 00:04:54,681 Speaker 6: more important than the symptoms. If you get caught looking 106 00:04:54,721 --> 00:04:57,161 Speaker 6: at the symptoms all the time, you're going to just 107 00:04:57,201 --> 00:04:59,321 Speaker 6: do a lot of individual prescribing. You have to look 108 00:04:59,361 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 6: at the lung, or you're going to look at the foot, 109 00:05:00,921 --> 00:05:02,841 Speaker 6: you know, like all the specialists in the world. It's 110 00:05:02,841 --> 00:05:05,841 Speaker 6: like there's an eye specialist, a nose specialist, specialists a 111 00:05:05,921 --> 00:05:08,281 Speaker 6: foot and if you treat the foot, sometimes you get 112 00:05:08,281 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 6: the foot in balance. But then people have knee pain 113 00:05:10,801 --> 00:05:12,841 Speaker 6: and hip pain, then lower back pain and neck pain 114 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,961 Speaker 6: because you've adjusted the balance of the foundation where they 115 00:05:15,961 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 6: were And this is how the body works, right, So 116 00:05:18,481 --> 00:05:20,561 Speaker 6: I've got to come at this from the very beginning, 117 00:05:20,681 --> 00:05:23,521 Speaker 6: from a holistic point of view, and look at the 118 00:05:23,561 --> 00:05:25,401 Speaker 6: symptoms and try and address them so that they can 119 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,841 Speaker 6: make the client more comfortable. But never fall for trying 120 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 6: to fix the symptoms because they're not the actual reason. 121 00:05:32,121 --> 00:05:35,361 Speaker 6: And over time, I'm always trying to improve, and so 122 00:05:35,921 --> 00:05:38,401 Speaker 6: I'd get results with clients and I'd be like, oh, yep, 123 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,281 Speaker 6: I've got it, And then I wouldn't get a result 124 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,281 Speaker 6: with a client or a client that got results, especially 125 00:05:43,281 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 6: I mean people that come to natch Bass immune systems gut, 126 00:05:46,601 --> 00:05:49,561 Speaker 6: they're the big one's skin. And after a while I 127 00:05:49,601 --> 00:05:54,801 Speaker 6: started I actually had a limitation of respiratory herbs on stock, 128 00:05:55,121 --> 00:05:57,361 Speaker 6: and so I treated somebody. I'm like, this person is 129 00:05:57,401 --> 00:06:00,961 Speaker 6: just so anxious, and so I treated their suppressed immune system. 130 00:06:01,401 --> 00:06:03,401 Speaker 6: You know, normally i'd follow the protocol and be giving 131 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 6: all these immune stimulants and immune tonics and things just 132 00:06:07,681 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 6: to help them through this period, because that's where you know, 133 00:06:10,121 --> 00:06:13,201 Speaker 6: people don't come when they're down. They're like I can't breathe, 134 00:06:13,201 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 6: I feel like I'm going to die. Fix me, And 135 00:06:14,921 --> 00:06:17,081 Speaker 6: I'm like, that's actually not the time to go to 136 00:06:17,081 --> 00:06:19,561 Speaker 6: see a natschbath right, that's when you should chuck yourself 137 00:06:19,601 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 6: full of drugs, get some sleep. 138 00:06:21,241 --> 00:06:22,361 Speaker 1: You should have done it earlier. 139 00:06:22,721 --> 00:06:25,241 Speaker 6: So I started treating them with stress herbs, and I 140 00:06:25,281 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 6: was getting better results. And then I started treating every 141 00:06:29,001 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 6: client's disease with stress herbs, and I'm like, they're not 142 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,841 Speaker 6: just getting better in their symptom here, but overall, I'm 143 00:06:35,841 --> 00:06:38,081 Speaker 6: finding it easier to bring themselves into balance. I'm getting 144 00:06:38,121 --> 00:06:42,001 Speaker 6: better in their subsymptoms and their secondary problems. Right, And 145 00:06:42,081 --> 00:06:44,241 Speaker 6: so then I went, well, shit, I can't be a 146 00:06:44,281 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: natchpath anymore. It's not physical. It's not nutrition or not solely. 147 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,401 Speaker 6: It's not about giving them the herbs and the nutrients 148 00:06:51,401 --> 00:06:55,121 Speaker 6: and the cofactors to achieve. It's about regulating their ability 149 00:06:55,121 --> 00:06:57,841 Speaker 6: to handle stress. And so then I went into just 150 00:06:58,201 --> 00:07:02,281 Speaker 6: every possible angle around where our major stresses are. 151 00:07:02,281 --> 00:07:03,641 Speaker 1: I went into habit modification. 152 00:07:03,761 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 6: I looked at you know, I've done it million courses 153 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,401 Speaker 6: on that area of mental health, NLP D, Martini therapy, 154 00:07:10,521 --> 00:07:15,321 Speaker 6: all the different emdrs, EFTs, counseling, all the different sides 155 00:07:15,321 --> 00:07:15,961 Speaker 6: of things. 156 00:07:16,161 --> 00:07:17,441 Speaker 1: What I was pretty clear. 157 00:07:17,241 --> 00:07:19,241 Speaker 6: On, and this again, is I say a lot of 158 00:07:19,281 --> 00:07:20,561 Speaker 6: things that maybe are controversial. 159 00:07:20,561 --> 00:07:21,081 Speaker 1: I suppose. 160 00:07:21,121 --> 00:07:23,721 Speaker 6: But you know, I'd spent at this time, probably eight 161 00:07:23,801 --> 00:07:27,481 Speaker 6: years almost getting so frustrated at working with clients that 162 00:07:27,601 --> 00:07:32,441 Speaker 6: had either mental health specialist, other psychiatrists, psychologists, and also 163 00:07:32,921 --> 00:07:35,921 Speaker 6: general practitioners. You know, I sit on that side of 164 00:07:36,241 --> 00:07:39,401 Speaker 6: if you're in need of surgery or an emergency procedure, 165 00:07:39,481 --> 00:07:42,281 Speaker 6: or you know something's out of whack massively, then there's 166 00:07:42,361 --> 00:07:45,801 Speaker 6: no better option than going down the medical route, but 167 00:07:46,121 --> 00:07:50,081 Speaker 6: for actual prevention and maintenance and actually treating the cause 168 00:07:50,601 --> 00:07:54,521 Speaker 6: and actually resolving something completely, not just having to take 169 00:07:54,601 --> 00:07:57,041 Speaker 6: something to manage a symptom for the rest of your 170 00:07:57,081 --> 00:07:59,641 Speaker 6: life and then that causing another symptom to pop up, 171 00:07:59,641 --> 00:08:02,361 Speaker 6: and then having another medication and another one. Then this 172 00:08:02,401 --> 00:08:04,801 Speaker 6: is the worst thing ever. So I never wanted to 173 00:08:04,801 --> 00:08:08,041 Speaker 6: go down the become a psychologist side because I'm sitting 174 00:08:08,121 --> 00:08:11,161 Speaker 6: there with people that have been in therapy for twenty years, 175 00:08:11,161 --> 00:08:13,921 Speaker 6: so seeing their doctor on five different medications, the doctor 176 00:08:13,961 --> 00:08:16,561 Speaker 6: not letting them off these medications even though we've resolved 177 00:08:16,601 --> 00:08:19,241 Speaker 6: these other things. And so I was very clear I 178 00:08:19,281 --> 00:08:22,521 Speaker 6: wanted to find something that aligned with the holistic view 179 00:08:22,681 --> 00:08:25,001 Speaker 6: and worked. So that's when I went into act therapy, 180 00:08:25,041 --> 00:08:27,561 Speaker 6: which is a type of cognitive behavior therapy that helps 181 00:08:27,601 --> 00:08:30,441 Speaker 6: people get really good at sitting within the discomfort instead 182 00:08:30,481 --> 00:08:32,881 Speaker 6: of avoiding it, running away from it, etc. And I 183 00:08:32,921 --> 00:08:36,201 Speaker 6: probably spent a fair few years helping people manage their stress, 184 00:08:36,401 --> 00:08:41,081 Speaker 6: which was really good, but that becomes exhausting because, you know, 185 00:08:41,201 --> 00:08:43,881 Speaker 6: to manage our weight, to manage our energy, we have 186 00:08:43,961 --> 00:08:45,441 Speaker 6: to work out, we have to eat great, we have 187 00:08:45,481 --> 00:08:49,041 Speaker 6: to sleep well. And then to manage our anxiety, our depression, 188 00:08:49,201 --> 00:08:52,041 Speaker 6: our you know, negative thoughts, we have to do all 189 00:08:52,041 --> 00:08:55,601 Speaker 6: this meditation and journaling and gratitude and it starts to accumulate, 190 00:08:55,681 --> 00:08:58,561 Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, just managing our basic to 191 00:08:58,601 --> 00:09:01,601 Speaker 6: feel okay is like shit, I need seven hours a 192 00:09:01,681 --> 00:09:03,601 Speaker 6: day just to do this. And that's the opposite of 193 00:09:03,601 --> 00:09:05,321 Speaker 6: what we want, right, we want life to be easy 194 00:09:05,401 --> 00:09:06,321 Speaker 6: and light and fun. 195 00:09:06,961 --> 00:09:07,761 Speaker 1: So then I. 196 00:09:07,761 --> 00:09:11,361 Speaker 6: Went, okay, I just started doing all these courses, researching 197 00:09:11,401 --> 00:09:14,201 Speaker 6: and hoping that someone would come in, and I'm like, okay, 198 00:09:14,281 --> 00:09:16,401 Speaker 6: I use a bit of homeopathy here, I use a 199 00:09:16,401 --> 00:09:19,081 Speaker 6: bit of this here, and right now I can flash 200 00:09:19,121 --> 00:09:22,121 Speaker 6: forward to this. Now I'm at a point where and 201 00:09:22,161 --> 00:09:25,681 Speaker 6: again controversy warning, there's not a person that comes in, 202 00:09:25,721 --> 00:09:30,081 Speaker 6: whether it's an autoimmune disease, whether it's panic disorder, whether 203 00:09:30,161 --> 00:09:35,721 Speaker 6: it's epilepsy, whether it's asthma, whether it's depression, whether it's anything. 204 00:09:35,921 --> 00:09:39,161 Speaker 6: I am just so confident because of the results and 205 00:09:39,201 --> 00:09:41,001 Speaker 6: the experience I've been through, and the. 206 00:09:40,961 --> 00:09:42,601 Speaker 1: Person needs to be there ready, right. 207 00:09:42,681 --> 00:09:44,721 Speaker 6: I don't take anyone on that's not a ten out 208 00:09:44,761 --> 00:09:47,161 Speaker 6: of ten ready to walk on broken glass. It's just 209 00:09:47,201 --> 00:09:49,201 Speaker 6: because I need them to be there, because when you 210 00:09:49,441 --> 00:09:53,121 Speaker 6: actually deal with the cause, it's quite tough therapy. So 211 00:09:53,161 --> 00:09:55,441 Speaker 6: many times where you can be like, yeah, but I 212 00:09:55,441 --> 00:09:57,481 Speaker 6: don't need it enough. I won't push to that little 213 00:09:57,521 --> 00:09:59,521 Speaker 6: part that I need to get you to. But like 214 00:09:59,561 --> 00:10:02,041 Speaker 6: I said, I at the point now where I don't 215 00:10:02,081 --> 00:10:05,481 Speaker 6: feel like there's one condition that can't be revered and 216 00:10:05,521 --> 00:10:09,001 Speaker 6: one symptom that can't be removed or improved by treating 217 00:10:09,041 --> 00:10:10,201 Speaker 6: the block stress in the body. 218 00:10:10,361 --> 00:10:11,121 Speaker 5: It's incredible. 219 00:10:11,161 --> 00:10:14,681 Speaker 4: So you call yourself a trauma and toxin therapist, right. 220 00:10:15,121 --> 00:10:18,401 Speaker 6: Yes, And I call trauma because again, the word stress, 221 00:10:18,481 --> 00:10:22,001 Speaker 6: people just go. You either believe that I'm under so 222 00:10:22,081 --> 00:10:24,281 Speaker 6: much stress and everyone's under stress that there's no bother 223 00:10:24,361 --> 00:10:25,721 Speaker 6: attempting it to treat it. 224 00:10:25,721 --> 00:10:27,081 Speaker 1: It's like that's just what life is. 225 00:10:27,361 --> 00:10:31,361 Speaker 6: And so you downplay it or you become hyper stressed 226 00:10:31,361 --> 00:10:34,081 Speaker 6: by it. So stress is what's caused these issues. But 227 00:10:34,561 --> 00:10:38,961 Speaker 6: the toxins over time, let's say, like we all know that, 228 00:10:39,161 --> 00:10:41,481 Speaker 6: or maybe it all don't. But over time, like stress 229 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:45,041 Speaker 6: reduces our B six, zinc and magnesium specifically in the body, 230 00:10:45,081 --> 00:10:46,601 Speaker 6: like it does a lot of other things, reduced to 231 00:10:46,681 --> 00:10:49,441 Speaker 6: vitamin C. But I mean a all the cofactors that 232 00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:52,801 Speaker 6: are required not just for a working muscles, but especially 233 00:10:53,241 --> 00:10:57,041 Speaker 6: creating neurotransmitters. So we've all heard of dopamine, that's our 234 00:10:57,121 --> 00:11:00,161 Speaker 6: focus neurotransmitter. We've heard of serotonin, which is how calm 235 00:11:00,401 --> 00:11:02,721 Speaker 6: it's our ability to really you know, it goes hand. 236 00:11:02,761 --> 00:11:04,761 Speaker 6: And how about our prefrontal context and being able to 237 00:11:04,761 --> 00:11:07,361 Speaker 6: see a global view, being able to empathize with others. 238 00:11:07,801 --> 00:11:11,801 Speaker 6: We all know about gabba, which is our inhibitory transmitter. 239 00:11:11,841 --> 00:11:13,801 Speaker 6: We all know about glutamate, which is our excited, we 240 00:11:13,921 --> 00:11:17,281 Speaker 6: new transmitter. So these things need to be created in 241 00:11:17,281 --> 00:11:19,201 Speaker 6: the body. All our hormones need to be created in 242 00:11:19,201 --> 00:11:21,041 Speaker 6: the body, and to create those we start with a 243 00:11:21,161 --> 00:11:23,921 Speaker 6: building block. So say for every hormone, we need to 244 00:11:23,921 --> 00:11:26,761 Speaker 6: begin with cholesterol, which then it needs to go into 245 00:11:26,841 --> 00:11:29,721 Speaker 6: something called pregnetolone. But to go from cholesterol to pregnetolone, 246 00:11:29,761 --> 00:11:32,921 Speaker 6: we need these things called cofactors, which are vitamins, minerals, 247 00:11:32,961 --> 00:11:36,921 Speaker 6: amino acids, et cetera. And what happens over a long 248 00:11:37,001 --> 00:11:40,041 Speaker 6: period of time or sometimes a short period if it's 249 00:11:40,041 --> 00:11:43,921 Speaker 6: acute stress, is that we either our bodies elimination systems. 250 00:11:43,961 --> 00:11:49,521 Speaker 6: So whether it's liver, lungs, kidney, skin, bow, they struggle 251 00:11:49,761 --> 00:11:52,161 Speaker 6: based on our genetics. You know, some people can smoke 252 00:11:52,201 --> 00:11:54,081 Speaker 6: for a million years and they've got strong lungs, they'll 253 00:11:54,081 --> 00:11:54,801 Speaker 6: never get cancer. 254 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:57,201 Speaker 1: Some people can be a. 255 00:11:56,481 --> 00:12:00,001 Speaker 6: Subject to secondary smoke for two weeks and that can 256 00:12:00,041 --> 00:12:02,801 Speaker 6: cause a negative process in the body. Right depends on 257 00:12:02,841 --> 00:12:05,441 Speaker 6: if they've got really strong lungs genetically or not. But 258 00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:11,121 Speaker 6: these toxins elimination system one number one. It has an 259 00:12:11,121 --> 00:12:14,761 Speaker 6: inability to remove these toxins, so they get stuck in 260 00:12:14,801 --> 00:12:19,961 Speaker 6: the body. And also I call them deficiency toxins. But basically, 261 00:12:20,281 --> 00:12:23,881 Speaker 6: our zinc gets taken down to nothing, or our magnesium 262 00:12:23,881 --> 00:12:26,281 Speaker 6: gets or our b six is too low too, and 263 00:12:26,321 --> 00:12:29,241 Speaker 6: the body has set priorities and needs. Every day it 264 00:12:29,361 --> 00:12:31,681 Speaker 6: might say, okay, I've only got enough zinc to handle 265 00:12:31,721 --> 00:12:35,321 Speaker 6: the basic biggest need, and that will be transamination of proteins, 266 00:12:35,321 --> 00:12:37,841 Speaker 6: probably for zinc, right, but it goes, hey, I can't 267 00:12:37,841 --> 00:12:39,841 Speaker 6: give you any zinc through immune system or your skin 268 00:12:39,961 --> 00:12:41,561 Speaker 6: or your reproduction because. 269 00:12:41,481 --> 00:12:42,641 Speaker 1: There's just not enough there. 270 00:12:43,001 --> 00:12:46,201 Speaker 6: So as we're managing someone's block stress and trauma, what 271 00:12:46,241 --> 00:12:49,041 Speaker 6: I'm doing at the same time is assessing their genetics, 272 00:12:49,081 --> 00:12:52,401 Speaker 6: accessing where their cofactors are limited so that we can 273 00:12:52,441 --> 00:12:55,761 Speaker 6: help that. Because along the way, that helps us start 274 00:12:55,801 --> 00:12:58,441 Speaker 6: to create the new neurotransmitters. You know, like, let's say 275 00:12:58,441 --> 00:13:01,561 Speaker 6: we've got an excessive glutamate. We've got all this exciitary 276 00:13:02,001 --> 00:13:04,641 Speaker 6: and I'll just use an example of a client's test once, right, 277 00:13:04,681 --> 00:13:07,121 Speaker 6: the top level for glutamators normally three thousand. We were 278 00:13:07,161 --> 00:13:10,041 Speaker 6: at nine thousand, so three thousand or three times more 279 00:13:10,081 --> 00:13:12,801 Speaker 6: than what is over limit. So they've just got this 280 00:13:12,881 --> 00:13:15,961 Speaker 6: ability to just too much thoughts. Everything's running around in 281 00:13:15,961 --> 00:13:18,721 Speaker 6: the head and that normally gets balanced by dopamine, which 282 00:13:18,721 --> 00:13:21,681 Speaker 6: helps us to focus our thoughts. But they had a 283 00:13:21,961 --> 00:13:25,121 Speaker 6: deficiency of dopamine, so they've got all this ability to overthink. 284 00:13:25,161 --> 00:13:27,601 Speaker 6: And you pretend you're lying awake and just a million 285 00:13:27,601 --> 00:13:29,881 Speaker 6: things happening that's what was happening with this person all. 286 00:13:29,841 --> 00:13:30,521 Speaker 1: Day every day. 287 00:13:30,961 --> 00:13:34,081 Speaker 6: They had no ability to focus, so they're just off, 288 00:13:34,201 --> 00:13:37,201 Speaker 6: not able to stay in a conversation. They had no serotonin, 289 00:13:37,201 --> 00:13:39,241 Speaker 6: which meant they had no ability to calm and to 290 00:13:40,121 --> 00:13:44,041 Speaker 6: feel into this and to sort of regulate themselves. And 291 00:13:44,081 --> 00:13:46,801 Speaker 6: they had no gabber, which is no ability to balance 292 00:13:46,841 --> 00:13:50,761 Speaker 6: out the glutamate, so they're basically just flying off the 293 00:13:50,801 --> 00:13:54,121 Speaker 6: handle and unable to focus at anything. And then over 294 00:13:54,201 --> 00:13:56,681 Speaker 6: on their hormone levels. They're a male and they had 295 00:13:56,761 --> 00:14:00,161 Speaker 6: high testosterone, which was like interesting, but the testosterone had 296 00:14:00,201 --> 00:14:03,361 Speaker 6: been aromatized, which testosterone can get it converted in some 297 00:14:03,481 --> 00:14:06,961 Speaker 6: men to estrogen, so they've got no ability to calm 298 00:14:07,001 --> 00:14:10,721 Speaker 6: down or focus. All this crazy head and then all 299 00:14:10,761 --> 00:14:13,801 Speaker 6: this estrogen, so they were basically acting like a pregnant 300 00:14:13,841 --> 00:14:16,841 Speaker 6: woman that can't focus, and they were just crying and 301 00:14:17,241 --> 00:14:20,801 Speaker 6: unable to focus all day, which is obviously incredibly stressful 302 00:14:20,921 --> 00:14:23,241 Speaker 6: and traumatizing to the person. I actually have to write 303 00:14:23,241 --> 00:14:25,601 Speaker 6: a letter to their partner and say, hey, just letting 304 00:14:25,601 --> 00:14:28,881 Speaker 6: you know your partner's not crazy. But they can't control 305 00:14:28,961 --> 00:14:31,321 Speaker 6: this at the moment until we get these cofactors under 306 00:14:31,481 --> 00:14:33,441 Speaker 6: and we're going to give them everything to start building 307 00:14:33,521 --> 00:14:35,681 Speaker 6: up these neurotransmitters because they're deficient in. 308 00:14:35,641 --> 00:14:37,241 Speaker 1: These cetain things. That's why it's happening. 309 00:14:37,481 --> 00:14:38,921 Speaker 6: And at the same time, we're going to go on 310 00:14:38,961 --> 00:14:41,921 Speaker 6: a process to remove the block stress that is causing 311 00:14:41,921 --> 00:14:44,961 Speaker 6: this issue. And then once it all happened, all the 312 00:14:45,041 --> 00:14:47,921 Speaker 6: levels come back into balance. They're now a highly regulated 313 00:14:48,001 --> 00:14:50,601 Speaker 6: human and they've got no anxiety, no depression. 314 00:14:50,881 --> 00:14:52,041 Speaker 1: They're like happy. 315 00:14:52,201 --> 00:14:54,201 Speaker 6: When you treat the cause and when you look at 316 00:14:54,241 --> 00:14:57,161 Speaker 6: why things are, it makes sense. If you support the body, 317 00:14:57,201 --> 00:14:59,121 Speaker 6: it goes back into balance. Right, it wants to go 318 00:14:59,201 --> 00:14:59,841 Speaker 6: back to balance. 319 00:15:00,041 --> 00:15:03,761 Speaker 5: It sounds so simple and so complicated, so inteat. Yeah, 320 00:15:04,081 --> 00:15:06,561 Speaker 5: so in depth, how does your coaching work? Like what 321 00:15:06,681 --> 00:15:07,401 Speaker 5: is this that you do? 322 00:15:07,521 --> 00:15:09,761 Speaker 4: Like someone comes to you and says, I've got a 323 00:15:09,801 --> 00:15:11,881 Speaker 4: lot of storage trauma, I'm stressed all the time. I've 324 00:15:11,921 --> 00:15:14,561 Speaker 4: got you know, thiroat issues or anxiety. 325 00:15:15,121 --> 00:15:16,441 Speaker 5: Help me. How does that look? 326 00:15:16,881 --> 00:15:20,081 Speaker 6: Yeah? So normally, normally they've gone everywhere else first, right, 327 00:15:20,201 --> 00:15:23,441 Speaker 6: they've been on medication, or they're still on multiple medications, 328 00:15:23,521 --> 00:15:26,761 Speaker 6: or they it's a last resort. Normally, lately there's been 329 00:15:26,921 --> 00:15:28,841 Speaker 6: people coming a little bit earlier which is nice to 330 00:15:28,841 --> 00:15:31,241 Speaker 6: see that maybe humanity is starting to look at a 331 00:15:31,241 --> 00:15:34,601 Speaker 6: holistic view or more people are starting to tune into 332 00:15:34,641 --> 00:15:36,441 Speaker 6: their body a little bit more. But for most of 333 00:15:36,481 --> 00:15:39,281 Speaker 6: the years, it's always at a last resort where they've 334 00:15:39,321 --> 00:15:42,161 Speaker 6: tried surgery, they've tried radiation, they've tried all these things, 335 00:15:42,161 --> 00:15:45,001 Speaker 6: and that it just keeps coming back bottom. They're at 336 00:15:45,041 --> 00:15:47,921 Speaker 6: rock bottom right and it's almost not where I need people. 337 00:15:47,921 --> 00:15:50,441 Speaker 6: But if someone's at a five out of ten, like 338 00:15:50,521 --> 00:15:53,521 Speaker 6: I'd like to not be anxious anymore, And how I 339 00:15:53,641 --> 00:15:55,201 Speaker 6: start with the number one thing? I'm like, okay, we 340 00:15:55,241 --> 00:15:56,841 Speaker 6: need to go off coffee straight away. And if they're 341 00:15:56,841 --> 00:15:59,281 Speaker 6: like no straight away, then I'm like, well, we can't 342 00:15:59,281 --> 00:16:01,441 Speaker 6: start Ten years ago i'd be like, okay, I can 343 00:16:01,481 --> 00:16:04,401 Speaker 6: work around that. I can deal with this. But right now, 344 00:16:04,681 --> 00:16:06,921 Speaker 6: if you can't even do that, which is scary for 345 00:16:07,001 --> 00:16:10,201 Speaker 6: people to go off their crutches, et cetera, I just 346 00:16:10,241 --> 00:16:10,961 Speaker 6: go you're not ready. 347 00:16:11,641 --> 00:16:14,481 Speaker 4: And so like when you're at an absolute block bottom, 348 00:16:14,521 --> 00:16:16,281 Speaker 4: you will do anything to change it. 349 00:16:16,321 --> 00:16:18,441 Speaker 5: You'll do anything out to make it better. But if 350 00:16:18,441 --> 00:16:19,521 Speaker 5: you're not quite there, you're. 351 00:16:19,361 --> 00:16:21,481 Speaker 4: Like, oh yeah, no, I could still do it without this. 352 00:16:21,681 --> 00:16:23,041 Speaker 5: It's like, no, you can't. 353 00:16:23,441 --> 00:16:26,121 Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent, And even the people at rock bottom, 354 00:16:26,241 --> 00:16:29,041 Speaker 6: they'll still give me ninety eight percent of it or 355 00:16:29,121 --> 00:16:32,041 Speaker 6: ninety five percent. And it's my job to make them 356 00:16:32,041 --> 00:16:34,601 Speaker 6: feel so safe and to clear all the tigers or 357 00:16:34,641 --> 00:16:36,641 Speaker 6: the stresses and the block stress and their body. So 358 00:16:37,001 --> 00:16:39,961 Speaker 6: as I start to notice their nervous system become more regulated, 359 00:16:40,481 --> 00:16:43,521 Speaker 6: new memories appear from their childhood or their biggest stress moments. 360 00:16:43,561 --> 00:16:46,521 Speaker 6: And also they start to because they become more safe 361 00:16:46,521 --> 00:16:49,081 Speaker 6: in themselves and they start to love themselves more, they 362 00:16:49,281 --> 00:16:52,001 Speaker 6: start to allow me, and they'll share deeper things that 363 00:16:52,041 --> 00:16:54,601 Speaker 6: they're more shameful from that they were never going to share, 364 00:16:54,721 --> 00:16:57,561 Speaker 6: like where they were hoping we'd fix it all without having. 365 00:16:57,441 --> 00:16:57,881 Speaker 1: To share that. 366 00:16:58,321 --> 00:17:00,121 Speaker 6: And sometimes we get along the journey and it'll be 367 00:17:00,201 --> 00:17:03,921 Speaker 6: like and I did this, or and I this, or 368 00:17:04,281 --> 00:17:06,521 Speaker 6: I don't believe there's any bad people in the world. 369 00:17:06,561 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 6: We just have strategies that over time, the world has 370 00:17:10,961 --> 00:17:12,521 Speaker 6: shown me that I'm not a good person. And when 371 00:17:12,561 --> 00:17:14,321 Speaker 6: I'm not a good person, or I can't achieve a 372 00:17:14,360 --> 00:17:16,681 Speaker 6: goal or I can't get the love I want, then 373 00:17:16,921 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 6: I still need acceptance and attention. So I need to 374 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,241 Speaker 6: go find other ways to get some sort of validation, 375 00:17:22,721 --> 00:17:26,441 Speaker 6: I'll go into anywhere and that sometimes and we've all 376 00:17:26,481 --> 00:17:30,441 Speaker 6: known people as well, and also myself, like I sometimes 377 00:17:30,481 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 6: act in a way that I'm not proud of or 378 00:17:32,360 --> 00:17:34,761 Speaker 6: that doesn't align with my best self. But I get 379 00:17:34,761 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 6: triggered and I do that. And sometimes people do these 380 00:17:38,120 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 6: things in the moment of stress, and it's not acceptable 381 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 6: to do this, but it's also understandable, right Like, I 382 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: can be about to come home and I'm going, Okay, 383 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,041 Speaker 6: I didn't listen in that conversation last night. I'm going 384 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:50,041 Speaker 6: to come back in and I'm going to say, I'm 385 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 6: so sorry, sweetie, I acted like a real dick. And 386 00:17:52,761 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 6: I'll come in and she might give me a look 387 00:17:54,921 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 6: or say something that basically says you acted like a dick, 388 00:17:57,761 --> 00:18:01,321 Speaker 6: and then I'll go, you know, boom, I cannot let 389 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 6: you in now because I needed to come to that first, 390 00:18:04,201 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 6: and then you know, I'll have to come back to 391 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:06,481 Speaker 6: it later. 392 00:18:06,521 --> 00:18:08,001 Speaker 1: But in a previous years, that would be it. It 393 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: might be we just never talk about that again, you know. 394 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:13,561 Speaker 6: But I'd spent two hours going, I'm not happy with 395 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 6: how I did that, And that's where guilt builds up. 396 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,561 Speaker 6: And guilt is just a block stress, the effects of 397 00:18:18,761 --> 00:18:21,241 Speaker 6: non adaption to a guilt. You might adapt eighty percent 398 00:18:21,281 --> 00:18:24,481 Speaker 6: of it and that twenty percent gets stuck and it 399 00:18:24,521 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 6: now then acts on the next time you act in 400 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 6: that way where you think you did something wrong, and 401 00:18:28,961 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 6: all of a sudden it now becomes a bit of 402 00:18:30,681 --> 00:18:33,281 Speaker 6: an identity that I am wrong or I constantly do 403 00:18:33,321 --> 00:18:36,961 Speaker 6: the wrong thing, and we always live up to our identity, right, 404 00:18:37,001 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 6: So then we have these behaviors and these beliefs around 405 00:18:39,921 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 6: ourselves that I'm just a bad person. And when I 406 00:18:43,001 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 6: believe that, then that sort of allows me to do 407 00:18:45,561 --> 00:18:47,761 Speaker 6: bad things more often because it's like, well, what's the point, 408 00:18:48,201 --> 00:18:48,801 Speaker 6: that's who I am. 409 00:18:49,001 --> 00:18:50,881 Speaker 3: And a question that we get through a lot, which 410 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,481 Speaker 3: we would love to hear your answer for is people 411 00:18:53,521 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: say I don't have any trauma. 412 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 5: Oh my god, I do you think. 413 00:18:58,001 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 3: That everybody has some level of trauma that they have 414 00:19:01,041 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: to deal with. 415 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,641 Speaker 4: Or they say things like I had a really good upbringing, 416 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,201 Speaker 4: like nothing really bad happens, Like why would I ever 417 00:19:06,801 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 4: seek help, get therapy. 418 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:09,761 Speaker 5: Or go down that route? 419 00:19:10,001 --> 00:19:13,281 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, again, if you look at how I see trauma, 420 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,921 Speaker 6: trauma is just block stress, and unless you've been brought 421 00:19:17,001 --> 00:19:19,361 Speaker 6: up with somebody who allows you and teaches you all 422 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 6: these things, which none of us did. And I'm still 423 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 6: never meet to meet a client that has no block 424 00:19:24,681 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 6: stress in their body. Right, But we get to a 425 00:19:27,481 --> 00:19:30,281 Speaker 6: point in life where we never deal with this trauma 426 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 6: or this block stress when everything is sort of seems 427 00:19:34,001 --> 00:19:36,161 Speaker 6: to be working for us. As we've grown up, we've 428 00:19:36,201 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 6: developed going through different stressful moments, whether it's we've been 429 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 6: stood up in class and said the wrong thing and 430 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 6: everyone laughed, and so now I believe I'm dumb, and 431 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 6: then I filter the rest of my reality for the 432 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,281 Speaker 6: rest of my life to say I'm dumb. What that 433 00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:51,001 Speaker 6: does is over those years, that actually serves me more 434 00:19:51,041 --> 00:19:53,761 Speaker 6: than being smart. And so even though I can look 435 00:19:53,801 --> 00:19:56,561 Speaker 6: back and go, oh so unfortunate, having the belief that 436 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 6: I'm dumb allows me not to try. It allows me 437 00:19:59,201 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 6: to lean into being humorous. It allows me to focus 438 00:20:01,481 --> 00:20:04,041 Speaker 6: more on sport, or allows me to have more spare time, 439 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 6: or I get to regulate and etc. It actually serves 440 00:20:07,201 --> 00:20:10,521 Speaker 6: me along the way. But you can't show someone their trauma. 441 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 6: They need to go. This strategy isn't working for me. 442 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,001 Speaker 6: Like an example, let's say you think you're dumb or 443 00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 6: you've spoken up and you've got the wrong answer, and 444 00:20:18,241 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 6: then you go, Okay, I've learned how to deal with this. 445 00:20:20,761 --> 00:20:23,721 Speaker 6: My new strategy as a child is I don't speak up. 446 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,041 Speaker 6: And what that does is it helps me hide, and 447 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 6: it keeps me out of the limelight, and it keeps 448 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,801 Speaker 6: me out of getting in trouble, and it gets me 449 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,321 Speaker 6: approval of being such a good girl and being so 450 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 6: you know, you're so quiet, you're no trouble, and that 451 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 6: gives me my self esteem. And so I get through 452 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:40,241 Speaker 6: this point in life and then all of a sudden, 453 00:20:40,241 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 6: I go nobody notices me. I never get promotions. I 454 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 6: do all this great work, but no one ever seems 455 00:20:46,201 --> 00:20:49,441 Speaker 6: to recognize it, and that starts to build up pain 456 00:20:49,521 --> 00:20:51,761 Speaker 6: because we all want acceptance and acknowledgement. And then at 457 00:20:51,761 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 6: some point we go, ah, I'm done with being a 458 00:20:54,681 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 6: people pleaser. I'm done with like suppressing and subordinating myself 459 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,281 Speaker 6: to others. But I don't know how to do that, 460 00:21:00,721 --> 00:21:03,441 Speaker 6: and that's where we start to develop anxiety and OCD 461 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,001 Speaker 6: and all these things on top of it. 462 00:21:05,521 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: Or we deal with it and we release. 463 00:21:07,761 --> 00:21:10,041 Speaker 6: That stress, and then all of a sudden, I can 464 00:21:10,041 --> 00:21:13,321 Speaker 6: now speak up, and I am safe to shine and 465 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:17,321 Speaker 6: safe to be spectacular, and it's okay. I don't believe 466 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:20,361 Speaker 6: that nobody has trauma at all, or block stress, as 467 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:22,561 Speaker 6: I call it. There's another little part in our brain 468 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,761 Speaker 6: that most people don't know of. It's called the insula, 469 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 6: and it is a little thing that connects our mind 470 00:21:28,561 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 6: and our body together. So it's almost called like the 471 00:21:31,441 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: regulator or the It helps us feel into our body 472 00:21:34,721 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 6: and through high stress or trauma. It either I use 473 00:21:38,681 --> 00:21:41,241 Speaker 6: the example of a bicep. If I never ever ever 474 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,441 Speaker 6: use or lift anything, my bicep shrinks, right, It's got 475 00:21:44,441 --> 00:21:48,321 Speaker 6: no muscle. What can happen is the insular just shrinks 476 00:21:48,321 --> 00:21:50,801 Speaker 6: and is inable, so I can't feel into my body, 477 00:21:50,801 --> 00:21:53,961 Speaker 6: and that means I'm completely disconnected. And we've all seen 478 00:21:53,961 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 6: those people that sort of just sort of they feel 479 00:21:55,921 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 6: disconnected from their self. Their self isn't safe. They just 480 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 6: sort of have a monotone voice. Nothing ever gets them 481 00:22:01,441 --> 00:22:03,561 Speaker 6: up and down, and a lot of people perceive them 482 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 6: to be highly calm. You're like, oh, they're so calm 483 00:22:05,721 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 6: all the time. It's like, no, they're dead. Their strategy 484 00:22:09,201 --> 00:22:10,961 Speaker 6: to learn to deal with this is just to pull 485 00:22:11,001 --> 00:22:14,201 Speaker 6: back and detach. Underneath, it's like a duck. On the surface, 486 00:22:14,241 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 6: everyone goes, wow, they handle stress so much. You know, 487 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,801 Speaker 6: they can be highly stressful event or whatever. Underneath, they're 488 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 6: like their little feet to going bo and their body 489 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,201 Speaker 6: feels it, their heart feels it. If we measure them 490 00:22:24,321 --> 00:22:26,041 Speaker 6: their heart rate to be through the roof, these other 491 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 6: things will be happening. But on the surface they're just 492 00:22:28,761 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 6: really detached. And that's not a great way to live in. 493 00:22:32,241 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 6: One of the ways that we deal with trauma as well, 494 00:22:34,481 --> 00:22:37,801 Speaker 6: another strategy of the brain, and again potentially controversial, but 495 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,321 Speaker 6: I'll just give it to you, is this is too 496 00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 6: painful to be able to think about, so I'm just 497 00:22:42,481 --> 00:22:45,041 Speaker 6: going to forget it. And so what we see in 498 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 6: trauma and that example of the pigeons, etc. Is a 499 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 6: lot of our childhood memories or even adult memories or 500 00:22:50,441 --> 00:22:53,641 Speaker 6: other things just get blocked to us. We can't access them. 501 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 6: The file gets locked off until we regulate the nervous 502 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 6: system down to become safe enough to handle it. And 503 00:22:59,761 --> 00:23:02,001 Speaker 6: if we never come safe enough to handle it. There's 504 00:23:02,041 --> 00:23:04,001 Speaker 6: a word I use in trauma. It's called craft. It 505 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,041 Speaker 6: stands for can't remember a fucking thing. And it's basically 506 00:23:07,041 --> 00:23:10,521 Speaker 6: a response, a brilliant response to a traumatic experience, right, 507 00:23:10,561 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 6: and my belief in things like bipolar. It's like, this 508 00:23:14,561 --> 00:23:18,761 Speaker 6: reality is so traumatizing, it's so painful. I'm going to 509 00:23:18,761 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 6: create a new personality. I'm going to create a new 510 00:23:21,681 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 6: entity that I switch in between. 511 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,401 Speaker 1: And when you think of. 512 00:23:24,321 --> 00:23:26,801 Speaker 6: It like that, you go, Jesus, that's brilliant, Like you 513 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 6: are so clever to realize that this is too painful 514 00:23:29,761 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 6: to live like this. And when we see these multiple 515 00:23:31,681 --> 00:23:34,961 Speaker 6: personalities or bipolar, etc. When they're in the other entity 516 00:23:35,001 --> 00:23:38,321 Speaker 6: or in the other space, their body regulates. You can 517 00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 6: be one side and you can have high blood pressure 518 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,121 Speaker 6: all the time the other side, it's just normal. It's like, ah, 519 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,401 Speaker 6: the body is responding to the reality. It's just so brilliant. 520 00:23:47,561 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 6: But anyway back to this part, this insula, so it 521 00:23:50,481 --> 00:23:54,841 Speaker 6: goes disassociated sometimes so the bicep shrinks or it can 522 00:23:54,921 --> 00:23:58,161 Speaker 6: go hyper sensitive. And that's the person that feels everything, 523 00:23:58,281 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 6: super pain, super overreactive all the time. And it's like 524 00:24:02,481 --> 00:24:04,401 Speaker 6: they're just lifting weights all the time. They're like that 525 00:24:04,521 --> 00:24:07,281 Speaker 6: girl that gym four times a day because she's got 526 00:24:07,321 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 6: to work on, get on those abs and you know, 527 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 6: overtraining or the guy. And so what we see in 528 00:24:11,761 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 6: trauma is that insula becomes highly underfunctioning or highly overfunctioning. 529 00:24:17,001 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: And I'm feeling too much all the time. 530 00:24:19,521 --> 00:24:22,721 Speaker 4: So interesting the part about the strategies too, and how 531 00:24:22,721 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: they serve you, Like I feel like that whole dumb story. 532 00:24:25,521 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: I don't know if you realize it, but you literally 533 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,521 Speaker 4: described me that. Yeah, like it does serve you, and 534 00:24:31,521 --> 00:24:34,401 Speaker 4: then it kind of pulled me away from putting myself 535 00:24:34,441 --> 00:24:36,561 Speaker 4: out there because I was too scared to be embarrassed 536 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 4: or whatever. Like, can I clarify you saying that we 537 00:24:38,721 --> 00:24:41,801 Speaker 4: all have certain strategies to cope. 538 00:24:41,961 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and they work until they don't work right and 539 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,361 Speaker 6: work out so that hiding away so that we don't 540 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 6: get embarrassed. Right, if we look at where trauma is 541 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 6: or I work on this circle where our ego is 542 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,281 Speaker 6: its job is to protect us from being hurt. And 543 00:24:55,321 --> 00:24:57,481 Speaker 6: as we get closer, when we clear the trauma traumatron, 544 00:24:57,561 --> 00:25:00,201 Speaker 6: we get like think about it, layers like layers of armor. 545 00:25:00,321 --> 00:25:03,881 Speaker 6: We're never actually making someone different than who they are 546 00:25:03,921 --> 00:25:06,241 Speaker 6: when we release this trauma, or actually helping them become 547 00:25:06,241 --> 00:25:09,281 Speaker 6: their authentic self, and so we peel back these armor 548 00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,921 Speaker 6: layers that they've used to protect themselves, and every time 549 00:25:11,961 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 6: a layer comes back, the ego actually normally comes in 550 00:25:14,441 --> 00:25:18,001 Speaker 6: harder and tries to protect more. But with the dumb story, 551 00:25:18,441 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 6: the biggest thing that you're getting benefit from is I 552 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 6: actually believe I'm worthless and useless, right, And what my 553 00:25:25,801 --> 00:25:28,961 Speaker 6: ego never wants me to see it's trying to protect everything, 554 00:25:29,041 --> 00:25:33,241 Speaker 6: is that this is correct. So avoiding seeing if I 555 00:25:33,681 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 6: could be spectacular, or avoiding putting myself out there, or 556 00:25:37,281 --> 00:25:40,361 Speaker 6: trying and being rejected, or trying and being knocked back, 557 00:25:40,441 --> 00:25:42,801 Speaker 6: or trying and not getting into UNI, or trying and 558 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,481 Speaker 6: not getting that job, that is so safe because if 559 00:25:46,521 --> 00:25:50,281 Speaker 6: I try and I fail, that's confirming what I'm so 560 00:25:50,441 --> 00:25:52,481 Speaker 6: scared of, that I'm completely worthless. 561 00:25:52,761 --> 00:25:54,521 Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes so much sense. 562 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, even when you were saying as well about like 563 00:25:56,521 --> 00:25:58,481 Speaker 3: not speaking up and using your voice, I was always 564 00:25:58,521 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: the shy little girl. I never use my voice, I 565 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: never spoke up, I never sean, I never ever let 566 00:26:03,921 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: myself be in situation where I could be I guess scared. 567 00:26:08,281 --> 00:26:10,001 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really interesting. 568 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 4: So interesting, and I feel like so many females will 569 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: relate so much to that. You know, how they say, 570 00:26:14,201 --> 00:26:16,521 Speaker 4: I've heard so much of the first seven years in 571 00:26:16,521 --> 00:26:19,161 Speaker 4: your life. Do you think most of our block stress 572 00:26:19,201 --> 00:26:23,321 Speaker 4: and situations and trauma comes from those first seven I don't. 573 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 6: Know if the majority of the stress, because you can 574 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,561 Speaker 6: have horrendous things happen to you at twenty and thirty, right, 575 00:26:30,961 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 6: But a lot of our patterns, like what they always 576 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,561 Speaker 6: say is show me someone at seven, I'll show you 577 00:26:35,721 --> 00:26:38,521 Speaker 6: that person for life. And that is you know, like 578 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 6: the whole cheetah can't change your spots. Now, we know 579 00:26:41,041 --> 00:26:43,521 Speaker 6: that we can by doing this sort of stuff, right, 580 00:26:43,561 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 6: But we have a lot of our strategies as a child. 581 00:26:46,761 --> 00:26:49,201 Speaker 6: It really never matters as a parent what you say 582 00:26:49,241 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: to your child. They are watching through their mirror genes 583 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,241 Speaker 6: all the time and they're learning their strategies. It's like, oh, 584 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:56,521 Speaker 6: that seems to work really well. 585 00:26:56,761 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: You know. 586 00:26:57,441 --> 00:26:59,761 Speaker 6: Sometimes they push us in certain directions and if they 587 00:26:59,761 --> 00:27:03,161 Speaker 6: can cry and get away with something, they will continually 588 00:27:03,201 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 6: to use that strategy until it doesn't work, and all 589 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 6: of a sudden when we push back and create a 590 00:27:07,681 --> 00:27:10,281 Speaker 6: boundary as a parent, right, and then they'll usually get 591 00:27:10,321 --> 00:27:12,321 Speaker 6: angry to begin with. Then they might try and cry 592 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 6: it through. Then they might try emotional blackmail, and then 593 00:27:15,281 --> 00:27:18,001 Speaker 6: when they realize that that boundary is set, they will 594 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 6: just go flick and go into a different strategy. And 595 00:27:20,761 --> 00:27:22,881 Speaker 6: then they might try being extra nice, or they might 596 00:27:22,921 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 6: try and you know whatever, I'll do stuff for you, 597 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 6: or I don't know. But we only use strategies until 598 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,041 Speaker 6: they're no longer beneficial. So I don't believe that all 599 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 6: of our trauma and stress has been occurred in that 600 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,561 Speaker 6: seven years, but our patterns based on certain challenges, Most 601 00:27:38,561 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 6: of our patterns have been established, and they continue on 602 00:27:41,441 --> 00:27:43,801 Speaker 6: until we reach a point where the consequence of those 603 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,521 Speaker 6: patterns and behaviors shows as a negative right and then 604 00:27:47,561 --> 00:27:50,201 Speaker 6: we start to react against it. And for most people 605 00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 6: then they just fight against those habits and patterns for 606 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,801 Speaker 6: the rest of our life, where you know, they're like, 607 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,441 Speaker 6: I don't want to overeat anymore, and then the next 608 00:27:57,521 --> 00:28:00,001 Speaker 6: day I've overeaten them that I beat up on myself, 609 00:28:00,041 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 6: and then I just go on this pattern of where 610 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,961 Speaker 6: my conscious is so different from the needs of subconscious 611 00:28:06,001 --> 00:28:09,881 Speaker 6: that I'm just in constant turmoil within myself, and then 612 00:28:09,921 --> 00:28:12,321 Speaker 6: that just creates pain, which creates stress. 613 00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:14,361 Speaker 1: The effects of stress creates either. 614 00:28:14,241 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 6: Toxins or deficiency toxins like you know, deficiencies and all 615 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,001 Speaker 6: like key minerals, cove actors, BI vitamins, and then we 616 00:28:20,201 --> 00:28:22,761 Speaker 6: have health issues and that's where our disease comes from. 617 00:28:22,801 --> 00:28:25,001 Speaker 6: In my opinion of how it all happens. 618 00:28:25,201 --> 00:28:26,761 Speaker 5: Wow, so interconnected. 619 00:28:27,561 --> 00:28:28,161 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. 620 00:28:28,241 --> 00:28:31,201 Speaker 4: People think it's just oh, I've got this disease because 621 00:28:31,721 --> 00:28:34,161 Speaker 4: it's runs in my family. It's because this happened because 622 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 4: I ate this. It's like an onion. There's just so 623 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,001 Speaker 4: many layers to it. 624 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,441 Speaker 5: Yeah, so interesting, amazing. 625 00:28:39,921 --> 00:28:42,881 Speaker 7: We're sitting here absorbing it all. It's going wow, yeah, fascinating. 626 00:28:43,521 --> 00:28:45,401 Speaker 7: I suppose we need to wrap this up. We're going 627 00:28:45,481 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 7: to have you on for our Wednesday as well. But 628 00:28:47,561 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 7: I would love to know if anyone's listening to this 629 00:28:50,401 --> 00:28:53,081 Speaker 7: and they've just obviously learnt so much and taken so 630 00:28:53,161 --> 00:28:55,121 Speaker 7: much on board from the information that you've given us, 631 00:28:55,601 --> 00:28:59,121 Speaker 7: if they're like, Okay, wow, I really want to dig 632 00:28:59,121 --> 00:29:01,841 Speaker 7: deep to my block stress and learn more about myself 633 00:29:01,921 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 7: and be my most authentic self. But I don't know 634 00:29:04,481 --> 00:29:06,481 Speaker 7: how where do I start? Like, where the fuck do 635 00:29:06,561 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 7: I start? Obviously you do coaching. 636 00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:11,321 Speaker 4: I know you've got a humongous wait list, and what 637 00:29:11,361 --> 00:29:12,241 Speaker 4: can they do from here? 638 00:29:12,641 --> 00:29:15,841 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, obviously they can reach out. I do coaching 639 00:29:15,881 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 6: as well. Obviously I've got different courses. Just releasing a 640 00:29:19,521 --> 00:29:21,441 Speaker 6: retreat that they can sort of you know, do sort 641 00:29:21,441 --> 00:29:23,841 Speaker 6: of four days, that sort of hyper you know, it 642 00:29:23,881 --> 00:29:25,521 Speaker 6: gets you ready to be able to manage and do 643 00:29:25,601 --> 00:29:28,241 Speaker 6: this by yourself. But obviously there's any limitations to that. 644 00:29:28,241 --> 00:29:30,001 Speaker 6: There's plenty of ways you can get out there. The 645 00:29:30,001 --> 00:29:31,641 Speaker 6: first thing you need to do is start to listen 646 00:29:31,641 --> 00:29:34,761 Speaker 6: into yourself, and that obviously is really hard when you've 647 00:29:34,801 --> 00:29:38,121 Speaker 6: got a million thoughts, You've got you know, a million coffees. 648 00:29:38,121 --> 00:29:39,521 Speaker 1: You might be doing nicotine, you. 649 00:29:39,481 --> 00:29:41,801 Speaker 6: Might be using alcohol at night times, because that's how 650 00:29:41,841 --> 00:29:43,361 Speaker 6: you suppress. 651 00:29:42,921 --> 00:29:43,761 Speaker 1: And calm down. 652 00:29:43,961 --> 00:29:47,081 Speaker 6: Life's busy, but it has to become Yeah, this focus 653 00:29:47,201 --> 00:29:52,441 Speaker 6: back on self and listening. Your body is constantly, constantly, 654 00:29:52,601 --> 00:29:55,441 Speaker 6: always giving you signals, whether it's a headache, whether it's 655 00:29:55,681 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 6: low energy, whether it's the sniffles, whether it's sickness, whether 656 00:29:59,481 --> 00:30:02,521 Speaker 6: it's anxiety. Anxiety is I don't like to use with anxiety, 657 00:30:02,521 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 6: but feeling anxious or worried is a beautiful thing. If 658 00:30:06,321 --> 00:30:09,401 Speaker 6: we didn't feel that, because our body's constantly predicting into 659 00:30:09,441 --> 00:30:12,241 Speaker 6: the future of how safe is this next upcoming thing, 660 00:30:12,241 --> 00:30:13,961 Speaker 6: how much energy will I need in the next hour, 661 00:30:14,001 --> 00:30:15,921 Speaker 6: how much energy will I need to reserve for the 662 00:30:16,001 --> 00:30:19,721 Speaker 6: next day. If somebody walks into the room, your subconscious 663 00:30:19,761 --> 00:30:21,921 Speaker 6: is already reacting. If we had a little monitor on 664 00:30:21,961 --> 00:30:25,321 Speaker 6: your finger or on your pulse, you'd notice. And this 665 00:30:25,401 --> 00:30:28,361 Speaker 6: has been done multiple times in tests. But a boss 666 00:30:28,401 --> 00:30:30,601 Speaker 6: can walk into the room. People's heart rates can go 667 00:30:30,761 --> 00:30:34,841 Speaker 6: up elevated into almost a panic situation without even noticing it, 668 00:30:35,321 --> 00:30:37,721 Speaker 6: just by the presence of somebody that they feel like stress, 669 00:30:37,801 --> 00:30:40,881 Speaker 6: or somebody that's grown up in a poor neighborhood. A 670 00:30:41,041 --> 00:30:44,841 Speaker 6: policeman drives past, and their heart rate will go elevated immediately. 671 00:30:45,121 --> 00:30:47,921 Speaker 6: Therefore the stress response has been activated. That means their 672 00:30:47,921 --> 00:30:50,881 Speaker 6: blood vessels are constricting, they're starting to perspire, you know, 673 00:30:50,961 --> 00:30:53,281 Speaker 6: like all these things. The stress system has been set 674 00:30:53,281 --> 00:30:56,521 Speaker 6: in place by the subconscious. Just yeah, one hundred percent, 675 00:30:56,601 --> 00:31:02,361 Speaker 6: and so worry, anxiousness, etc. It's a beautiful signal to say, hey, 676 00:31:02,481 --> 00:31:05,001 Speaker 6: just checking in. I'm a little worried about what's coming up. 677 00:31:05,121 --> 00:31:08,201 Speaker 6: That's all it is, is a beautiful little warning, but we. 678 00:31:08,361 --> 00:31:09,841 Speaker 1: Go shut up. I don't want to hear about it. No, 679 00:31:09,881 --> 00:31:10,281 Speaker 1: it's okay. 680 00:31:10,441 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 6: We start to micromanage things in the future and we 681 00:31:12,441 --> 00:31:14,401 Speaker 6: start to push things down, and we're like, I can't 682 00:31:14,401 --> 00:31:17,001 Speaker 6: think about this because I get stressed. We do exactly 683 00:31:17,041 --> 00:31:19,281 Speaker 6: the opposite of what we need to do to listen, 684 00:31:19,441 --> 00:31:19,681 Speaker 6: you know. 685 00:31:20,121 --> 00:31:22,641 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a cool way to word anxious thoughts 686 00:31:22,761 --> 00:31:24,601 Speaker 4: or just like being worried about something, because I think 687 00:31:24,601 --> 00:31:28,681 Speaker 4: society is painted being anxious like it's just it. 688 00:31:29,081 --> 00:31:29,361 Speaker 5: Yeah. 689 00:31:29,401 --> 00:31:32,001 Speaker 4: But once again, it's like your body's telling you, hey, 690 00:31:32,361 --> 00:31:33,361 Speaker 4: are you safe right now? 691 00:31:34,121 --> 00:31:37,401 Speaker 5: Yeah? Tell me, yeah, hold space for me. 692 00:31:39,921 --> 00:31:41,641 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, I. 693 00:31:41,561 --> 00:31:43,081 Speaker 5: Absolutely love that. Thank you so much, Leve. 694 00:31:43,081 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: I feel like we could sit here and talk all 695 00:31:44,521 --> 00:31:46,561 Speaker 4: day and ask you a million questions. But you said 696 00:31:46,561 --> 00:31:49,001 Speaker 4: you've got a retreat coming up that's in August, am. 697 00:31:48,921 --> 00:31:51,161 Speaker 6: I right, Yeah, it is message me on Insta or 698 00:31:51,361 --> 00:31:53,361 Speaker 6: at LEVI the Mind Body Guy or whatever. 699 00:31:53,481 --> 00:31:55,561 Speaker 1: At Mind Body HQ. You can always find stuff. 700 00:31:55,641 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 5: I'm amazing. And you're doing a lot of work with 701 00:31:57,241 --> 00:31:57,681 Speaker 5: men as well. 702 00:31:57,681 --> 00:32:00,401 Speaker 4: You've got an incredible podcast it's helping men's mental health, 703 00:32:00,441 --> 00:32:02,281 Speaker 4: which is Titans. 704 00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:04,961 Speaker 6: Titans of EQ. Yeah, it's it's it feels like a 705 00:32:05,241 --> 00:32:08,761 Speaker 6: ready time for men. Women are really hit at a game, 706 00:32:09,601 --> 00:32:12,521 Speaker 6: really leading for twenty twenty five probably more. I mean, 707 00:32:12,521 --> 00:32:14,361 Speaker 6: I'm only aware of it for twenty five years, but 708 00:32:14,881 --> 00:32:18,121 Speaker 6: men have always been just nuh nuh nuh. And I 709 00:32:18,201 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 6: believe now we don't change until we have to. And 710 00:32:21,001 --> 00:32:24,321 Speaker 6: it's quite obvious that women are really starting to lead 711 00:32:24,361 --> 00:32:26,121 Speaker 6: the way in so many ways of how we need 712 00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,761 Speaker 6: to act, how we need to feel, how we need 713 00:32:27,801 --> 00:32:30,081 Speaker 6: to think, and the old patterns that men have been 714 00:32:30,161 --> 00:32:32,681 Speaker 6: used to using in are really being shown up is 715 00:32:32,721 --> 00:32:34,641 Speaker 6: not good enough, right, and they need to change or 716 00:32:34,641 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 6: they're going to get left behind and they're going to 717 00:32:36,281 --> 00:32:39,561 Speaker 6: feel shit. So they're ready and that's why I'm doing that. 718 00:32:39,881 --> 00:32:42,241 Speaker 4: So awesome, so proud of you and all the work 719 00:32:42,241 --> 00:32:44,161 Speaker 4: that you've put in over the years and the massive 720 00:32:44,281 --> 00:32:47,161 Speaker 4: positive impact like I've witnessed it firsthand. And yeah, I 721 00:32:47,201 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 4: just feel so so grateful that you come on here 722 00:32:48,761 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: today and will be seeing you Wednesday. So Wednesday we're 723 00:32:51,241 --> 00:32:53,921 Speaker 4: going to be covering a lot of pain behind trauma. 724 00:32:54,121 --> 00:32:55,241 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, cool. 725 00:32:55,361 --> 00:32:57,601 Speaker 3: So thanks so much, LEVI, thanks so much for your time. 726 00:32:57,961 --> 00:32:59,081 Speaker 1: Bye,