WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 15 May 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.120 From the skying In Center. 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:08.400 This is Paul Murray livedo Maidan God love you Australia. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:12.400 A constant reminder. So despite the fact that last night 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.160 was the budget and tonight we'll talk about the budget 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.920 and great detail. We'll have a great debate between Stephen 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.000 Conroy and Broman Bishop. We'll have another heavy hitter in 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:21.720 Megan Kelly. 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:23.000 Every now and. 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.720 Then Australia gets to remind the people who talk about 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.520 politics for a reason exactly where they sit in the 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:32.280 pecking order. Now, as you know, everyone's got an opinion. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.239 It's rough technical and this worked and this didn't work. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.400 About the budget, you have. 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.360 To make sure that as you rearrange the pain, you 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.120 don't add to the overall pain. You don't add to 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.840 the inflation which is giving us the problems around our 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.559 cost of living. And the government did the first, it 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.040 didn't really do the second. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.959 The Albanezy government is copying plenty of flack for its 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.920 big spending budget, giving it three hundred dollars energy rebates 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:00.640 to everyone. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.920 Jim Chalmers insists this budget isn't about winning votes, but 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:05.720 we'll take that with a grain of salt. It would 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.600 be the first government ever to not want to win 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:09.720 votes with the budget. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:12.720 The Treasurer spends beig on budget cost of living relief, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.680 but Sydney's lowest paid workers have wage risers delayed. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:18.560 If you're struggling to pay your energy bills, you're going 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.240 to have another three hundred dollars on top of whatever 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:21.280 the state government's doing. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.080 But you are going to pay for it. 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:24.679 Either you're going to pay for it or someone else 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.360 is going to pay for it in higher inflation and 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.559 other things and higher interest rates. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.240 But a little reminder to Albow and to Jim Charmers. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.319 While they think that they are the center of the universe, 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:35.800 and the people who talk about them think that they're 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.440 close to the center of the universe, and the people 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:38.880 who talk about the people who talk about the people 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.760 think they're close to the almost center of the universe. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.560 Australian television viewers sent a very big message yesterday, just 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.640 one of many, many, many, many many television shows that 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.800 people preferred to watch them in The Treasurer's speech. 0:01:54.080 --> 0:02:00.800 Was this, Oh yes, come on, so it's got to 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:06.080 give a little lateral push, paps, get down, go rides. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:08.799 A bit for us as close yep yep, is it. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:09.520 Here, Rob is it? 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:09.760 Here? 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:10.040 Is it? 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.320 Here? 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:10.960 Is it there? 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:14.720 Who cares? 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.079 What the GDB growthreat's gonna be, what's gonna happen, What's gonna. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:19.080 Happen with the little Bittal coin? 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.160 Seriously, anyway, personally I prefer the Chase Slarry Eam does 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.200 a dear friend, God love him. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:24.640 Now. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.480 The reviews are in, however, for the budget, and this 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:31.960 is worth noticing that while the Treasurer was out there 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.920 and selling it and kind of trying to pretend that 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.360 he was selling you sugar when he was really trying 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:41.640 to set you something a little less edible, the people 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.440 of Australia were exactly where we were when we talked 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.320 about the budget last night, kind of in a giant. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.640 Really, we don't want cash. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:53.400 Three hundred dollars. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.280 What are you going to do with that that doesn't 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.320 go to take giving me food for the nextra week. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.120 I think it's just buying bades. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.360 It sounds like it's to me they electricity. That's nothing 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.040 it absolutely laughs. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.360 Thir three hundred dollars won't make much of difference. No, well, okay, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.000 those are just vox pops as we call them in 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.040 the business. They're hardly scientific. They're randomly about who was 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:16.800 available when. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:17.720 The camera was around. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:22.799 Perhaps the labor loving analysts over on Channel two, they 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.520 can tell us why this was an amazing budget. 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.480 Why do high earning Australians need a subsidy. 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:31.400 Multiple parts of our cost of living package. There's a 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:34.639 tax cut for every taxpayer, and there's energy bill relief 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:36.440 for every household. 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:37.720 About middle Australia. But there's a whole bunch of people 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:40.200 who aren't in Middle Australia. Why do you need to 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.440 give energy relief to those people? 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:45.560 But I think people are under the pump right around Australia. 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:47.960 Yes, but you will acknowledge there are people who are 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.520 not under the pump. We hear about it a lot, 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.080 the baby boomers, those people who've won the housing lottery 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:54.800 and so on. Why are those people going to get 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.760 three hundred dollars in their pocket? 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.240 Hang on, every baby boomer is rich. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.880 That may be news to one or two people watching 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.200 us right now, But you know, well, okay, maybe the 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.800 guy who has seen like fifty budgets in a row, 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.960 maybe his review is that this is a stunning document 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.839 that is going to fix all of our problems. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:19.160 Elbows each way. 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.840 Bet On our Future ahead of his article where have 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.320 I heard each way elbow before? 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.920 Um? Yeah, that's right. 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:30.800 Okay, well okay, what about the people who actually talk 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.360 about economics for a living, even more so than Ross Giddens. 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.080 What about the Financial Review? What did they think of 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:43.880 the budget? This is the most irresponsible budget in recent memory. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.440 Okay, okay, so. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:50.680 The newspapers Okay, the newspapers are probably wrong here, THEBC 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:51.320 is probably wrong. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:52.880 Voxpop's definitely wrong. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.200 So what about the guy who works for the ABC 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.640 but also writes columns for a news webs that is 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:01.680 paid for. 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.520 By union superannuation money. He says. 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:10.479 That this is a risky, not responsible budget and it 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.160 could mean to rate hikes. 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.640 Okay, no, no, no, no, they're all wrong. They are all wrong. 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:21.600 The cartoons of Australia, they're the ones who connect, They understand, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.920 they know how to take big and complicated issues and 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.240 sum up what's really going on, like Johannes Sleek in 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:36.360 The Australian, or maybe the Mark Knight Mark Knight, Mark 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:37.000 Knight in the. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.800 Okay, what about Warren Brown? He will really care about. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.760 The power thing that's seventy five bucks every three months 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:51.560 or twenty five dollars a month or six dollars a week. Okay, 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.560 So that's all old media, right. Okay, so the ABC, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.680 the Financial Review, that's all old media. Like, guys, people 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.680 aren't tuning into that anymore. All about social media because 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.040 social media is where you can just really connect with 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.200 the papa. And this was the Prime Minister really connecting 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.960 my papa on the internet last night. 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.839 Hi, I wanted to talk to you about one of 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.880 the major announcements we have in tonight's budget, and that's 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.320 from July one, every household will get three hundred dollars 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.400 off their energy bills. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.160 Okay, So the people have seen the prominent I mean, 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.680 he's looking at me right, like he filmed that himself, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.400 so he understands me. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.360 Right. He's got a dog called Toto. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.440 Did you also know he's from a single parent household 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:38.640 and he grew up in Housing Commission. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.520 I didn't know that until like today. 0:06:41.800 --> 0:06:45.000 So the people responding to that video on the internet 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.640 who were following the Prime minister was presumably they liked 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:48.560 the Prime minister right. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.440 Three hundred bucks yep, that'll go far. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:54.880 You realize how much power bills have gone up since 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.200 you came to office. We've heard all of this before. 0:06:59.320 --> 0:07:01.680 It was a lie the first time. It's a lie now. 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.440 The cost of everything has gone up since Labour's taken path. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.120 These are people who follow him on the internet and 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.600 therefore presumably like him. Is this like the two hundred 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.280 and seventy five dollars reduction we never saw. You can't 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.600 buy your way out of this. Your government drove price 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.080 is up by far more than you're rebating all of 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.960 Australians now with taxpayer money. Call the election, okay, all right, 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:28.920 So social media is wrong, mainstream media is wrong, people 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:29.760 in the street are wrong. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.560 Cartoonists are wrong. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.400 Well, maybe the best person to review the budget is 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.000 the guy who handed the budget down. 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.120 What we released last night will be part of the 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.680 solution to this high inflation that's been in our economy 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.640 for a couple of years now, not part of the problem. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:51.360 Some of the cost of living package is broad, a 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.400 tax cut for every taxpayer, energy bill, relief for every household, 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.080 and some of it is targeted ran assistance, a help 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:59.680 with cheaper medicines. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:00.800 And more an like that. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.679 While the outlook is uncertain, Treasury's forecasts make it clear 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:08.680 that our policies could see inflation return to target earlier, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.440 perhaps even by the end of the year. So what 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:15.360 we're doing instead is we're providing this energy bill relief 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:16.440 to every household. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.960 Sure, mate, you're amazing. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:28.000 Just ask yourself again. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:33.600 Australia's reaction to the budget. We knew it last night. 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.480 The media tried. They tried, but they didn't like it 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.480 because the reality is as hard as the Prime Minister 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.079 and the treasure we want to run around pat themselves on 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.040 the back and say they've solved all of the world's problems. 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:49.040 The reality is that seventy seven percent of Australians are 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:54.840 in extreme cost of living pressures right now. So three 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.440 hundred bucks a year, which is really seventy five bucks 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.880 a quarter, which is really twenty five bunks a month 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.760 that you don't see by the way they're paying the 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.760 power companies, that's not going to really move that needle, 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.240 literally the cost of living needle. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.400 And as has been explained by the Great Andrew Clarnel. 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.800 And you get seventy five a quarter all of us. 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.480 You know, Jena Reinhart gets it, Twiggy Forest gets it, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.280 we all get it. Everyone watching gets it. And I 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.079 think it just rolls pretty much straight onto your bill. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.440 To make sure that the mansions of Australia can heat 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.600 their puls. 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.640 This is a labor budget. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.080 The problem is one of the reasons why people have 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:42.520 gone today is firstly, there's no extra money in your pocket. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.800 There's money that has been handed to power companies and 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:49.640 it's seventy five dollars a quarter. The average household bills 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:54.160 when it comes to power in this country are thirteen 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.920 hundred dollars in Sydney, twelve hundred dollars in Melbourne, twelve 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.160 hundred dollars in Brisbane. Now they're the annual numbers, so 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.400 minus three hundred off all of that, it's still way 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.240 over a grand, which is way higher than it was 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:07.280 when they came to power. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.400 But don't tell anyone. 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.040 And then again when it comes to workers, why are 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:18.120 Australians a bit whatever? Because, as Jim Chalmers says, when 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.320 it comes to the two little too late tax cuts. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:28.079 From July one, all thirteen point six million taxpayers, we'll 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.720 get a tax cut and for eighty four percent of 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:34.600 taxpayers and ninety percent of tax paying women, a bigger 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.319 tax cut than they would have under the previous government. 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:42.000 This is about rewarding the hard work of our nurses 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.920 and teachers and truckies and tradees and the two point 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.400 nine million people earning forty five thousand dollars a year 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:54.040 or less who would have received nothing. The average benefit 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.120 is one eight hundred and eighty eight dollars a year, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.800 which is thirty six dollars a week. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:01.520 Wow. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.640 You know when you're driving around listening to your favorite 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.760 radio station and they've got one hundred bucks to give 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.240 away because you called and you're the secret sound person 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.520 who guessed and you win five hundred. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:19.400 Bucks and you go, okay, Well. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.360 That's how this feels, because it doesn't actually change anyone's life, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.800 because again, thirty six dollars a week, how does that. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.880 Affect the car insurance that you're paying? 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:32.800 According to Canstar, the average cost of comprehensive insurance in 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.440 Australia is twenty one hundred bucks. But thanks for the 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.600 thirty six bucks a week. Oh yeah, and what about 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:44.240 the increases in everything at supermarkets? Thirty six bucks a 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:50.319 week doesn't really change any games, does it, Because, as 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.560 we've seen over the past couple of years, food inflation, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:59.160 meat inflation, dairy inflation, fruit and veg and non alcoholic beverages, Up, up, 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:04.000 up and again the MUH at thirty six bucks a week, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.600 Thank you so much, doctor Jim. If you're trying to 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.920 pay off a house, or you live in a house 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.440 and paying rent to somebody's trying to pay off a house, they, 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.280 of course, as we've told you many times before, have 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:20.160 to find an extra fourteen thousand dollars than before this 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.200 government came to power because of the elbow dozen of 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:27.720 interest rate rises, or twenty nine thousand dollars if it's 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:33.880 a million dollar mortgage. Now, all of this, of course, 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.840 is not really about changing your life. It's about changing 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.400 the political fortunes of a government that has let cost 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.439 of living burn is an issue all the way through 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:47.160 twenty twenty three. You see, they thought they could distract 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.120 with a year long campaign about what words should exist 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.520 in our constitution, about the voice. That's why they put 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.880 four hundred and thirty million dollars. They didn't add four 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.920 hundred and thirty million dollars to charities that we're dealing 0:12:59.960 --> 0:13:02.560 with cost of living. The budget last year took fifteen 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:06.720 hundred dollars off ten million workers. That's fifteen hundred dollars 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.640 that you would get automatically as a tax return, fifteen 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.360 hundred dollars that you would automatically get, so you'd be 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:16.640 able to have an actual stack of cash to pay 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.679 off one of the mini bills that you haven't been 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.520 able to because of all of the different squeezes that 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:26.079 have taken place. Instead, they are literally spending b for 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.280 billions of dollars, billions of dollars to not move the needle, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.360 to not change your life, so they can have a 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:39.600 slogan to turn the poles around. Get ready, it's tried, 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.520 it's tested, it's focus grouped within an inch of its life, 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.640 and you will be sick of it if you aren't 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.160 already by the time they finish saying it. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.680 A tax cut for every taxpayer, energy bill relief for 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:53.480 every household. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.960 And we think that every single one of your listeners 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:02.160 deserves that energy bill relief. Every single one of your 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.880 listeners watching this program deserve a tax cut. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.839 There's a tax cut for every taxpayer, and there's energy 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.520 bill relief for every household. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.960 Listeners who are watching your program, they know you better 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.840 than you do. Apparently you don't watch your program, you 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:25.520 just listen to it. Of course, it's just about the slogan. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.640 The slogan to try to say we're helping everyone, and 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.440 if you oppose any of this, then you're against helping everyone. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.760 But if that everyone doesn't actually feel the help, then 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.560 it's just a bumper sticker that they're just going to 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.040 scream at us. It'll be about as impactful as those 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.000 people who drive around with the bumper stickers for the 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:46.359 past twenty years saying. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:51.960 Save our ab See. However, I've got to be fair. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:53.720 There is a lot of good news in the budget 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.600 that we didn't get a chance to talk about last night, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.160 and we've been able to find some of the details 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.360 in the budget that really are going to help people, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:03.080 Like they are going. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:08.000 To lower taxes on sweet potatoes. 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.640 There's one hundred and seventeen million dollars for the Flying 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:26.080 fruit Fly circus. There's more money for the ABC so 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.360 that they can get kids who live in the bush 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:37.080 to send them emails. I refer now to the Nightly 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.360 and they're up late hosts to go through some other 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:41.920 amazing initiatives. 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.760 First, back to back surpluses in nearly two decades. Apparently 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.120 living within our means for two years in a row 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:50.360 is worth a high five. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.680 Yeah, he said, this is a budget for the here and. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:56.560 Now, a responsible budget that helps people under pressure to date, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:00.840 like who ethne, building a million homes is something different. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.000 You can't find a trade for love nor money at 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:03.440 the moment. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.720 So tax cuts for all energy rebates and a million 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:07.520 new homes and. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.720 We're meant to believe none of that is inflation. Is 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:13.040 the one page in all that that Jim really doesn't 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.520 want you to pay attention to is this one that 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.120 shows that by the end of twenty twenty eight, our 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.960 national debt will be over one point one trillion dollars 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:25.760 and the interest on that debt each year will be 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.600 thirty five point six billion. 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.440 You may recall Cumberland City Council made a decision a 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:48.200 couple of weeks ago about a book that was in 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:51.160 the children's section that some people freaked out about. It 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:56.600 was a book about same sex parents. Now, I haven't 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.320 talked about this because I knew this would resolve itself, 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.240 and there's a meeting happening with the council right now, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:04.240 a vote in fact, maybe will be happening as we speak, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:05.480 so we'll check the details for you. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:07.920 But the book. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:12.919 Is written for the youngest of readers, and it's like 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:15.160 my dad is Greg and my other dad is Bill, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.119 and some people try to turn this into sort of, 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.720 you know, the example of that really weird stuff that 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.920 is being pushed on some kids about all sorts of 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.040 stuff in the United States. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.520 Reality is, it's not so to me. 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.800 It's obvious this thing is going to be turned around. 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.800 But as you remember, people said who were in favor 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.720 of the book being removed from the local library, that 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.840 this is not Newtown, this is not Merrickville. So tonight 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:49.280 is actually when the meeting has taken place to presumably overturn. 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:51.359 The change. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.000 Now I'm not going to say bad, but you overturn 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.400 the change to get rid of the book, certainly out 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.480 of the children's section. Now, there's been a live stream 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.760 on this that I've been watching for the past Wow. 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:04.879 A lot of people screaming, a lot of people fired up. 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:07.080 Who knew this was the one thing that would actually 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.720 pull our communities apart and the police would all need 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.000 to turn up and all the rest of it, you know, 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.800 people being booted out every two. 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:16.600 Or three seconds. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.760 Well, apparently it was but interesting and important to note that, 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.399 as I say, the reason I think this thing is 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.200 probably going to get overturned. Is because there was a 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:28.159 couple councils missing from the original meeting, so they are 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.480 voting as we speak. When I have a result for you, 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.760 I will tell you. If not the late debate who 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.159 have been watching the stream as well, and I have 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.080 made sure that I was going to stay hands off 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.360 on the goodness of the stream so they could bring 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:39.720 it to you. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.960 They will do so at the top of the hour. 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:49.639 Now, Australian universities are deeply reliant on China. Now we 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:53.200 know this because of the Confucius Institutes. Not to mention 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:59.160 the international students. The business model basically means never upset China. Well, 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.399 there is a bloke who studies out an Australian university 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.800 who will and truly upset China. He's done many protests, 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.600 including dressing up as Winnie the Pooh, which is the 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:13.639 number one way to pee off the Chinese president. His name, apparently, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.200 or the name they've given him, is Aaron. But guess 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:23.760 what happened after Aaron protested against China in Australia. According 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.960 to his story, the police then went and threatened him 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:32.560 his parents in China and they used the threats of 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:35.760 the parents in China to pick up the phone and 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.920 call him in Australia to say knock this stuff off. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.240 The police threatened my parents about their income and their superannuation, 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.359 about my relative's future ability to become public servants or 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:51.080 get a job in a national owned company if I 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.119 didn't stop, he says. Once he eventually got on the 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.000 phone to his parents, it was like they were reading 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.520 a script. They told me not to attend protests, or 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:02.200 organize any protests, or to use Twitter from Monday to Friday. 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.520 The University of Sydney student who prefers to be known 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.680 by the fake name as we said, Aaron. He suspects 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.280 that a Chinese police officer was standing over his parents 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:19.199 while they gave him the instructions. Now we've had planning 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:22.560 of chats about what isn't isn't acceptable on student campuses, 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.480 what protests are allowed. 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:25.040 And not allowed. 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.920 But is there going to be any discussion whatsoever about 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:36.520 the pressure that is put on students from China who 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:44.159 come to Australia via their parents back at home because 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.760 of what they are doing on a free campus here 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.159 in Australia. Well, of course, Australia will never stand up 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.640 to China under this current government, and certainly the leadership 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.760 of many of our modern universities would have no interest 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:01.639 whatsoever in standing up to the Chinese money that is 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:06.240 constantly flowing their way. But maybe someone somewhere should ask 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.560 a couple of questions about this incented estimates. Maybe call 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:10.960 forward the bosses of the universities. And while we're all 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.160 talking about protests in and around the Middle East, could 0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.399 we also talk about, so, how do you protect these 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.440 people for being able to freely express themselves in this 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.480 country and not being intimidated by threats to their parents 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.440 in another country? And if you can't control it, then 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.720 maybe we should just cut ties with China. Oh yeah, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.560