WEBVTT - What is left of Gaza’s hospitals?

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<v Speaker 1>I first went to Gaza in February March twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>just before COVID was hitting the world, and visited again

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty two and was supposed to return in

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty twenty three. And when I first visited, I

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<v Speaker 1>was blown away by Gaza's vibrancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Rachel Coglin is a palliative care doctor based in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>On her visits to Gaza, she spent time in hospitals

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<v Speaker 2>and healthcare facilities across the Strip.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent most of my time with healthcare workers, many

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<v Speaker 1>of whom have since become my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Dear beloved Sister Richer, thank you so much for your

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<v Speaker 3>kind or destroy your kindness, for your unwavering support.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those friends is doctor Carmis Elissi Comis.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a pain medicine and a neuro rehabilitation specialist who

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<v Speaker 1>has spent the last two years continuing to care for

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<v Speaker 1>his patients. I'm not sure that there's a day gone

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<v Speaker 1>by where he hasn't turned up to a hospital and

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<v Speaker 1>start to move around between different hospitals, but has always

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<v Speaker 1>remained in the north of Gaza in Gaza City.

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<v Speaker 3>In personal level, I decided since the beginning of the war,

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<v Speaker 3>to stay with my family, to protect my family, and

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<v Speaker 3>to help the poor patients here in Gaza who are

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<v Speaker 3>suffering from chronic pain and neurological diseases that I could

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<v Speaker 3>be overhelp to them.

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<v Speaker 2>As the death toll has mounted over the past two years,

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<v Speaker 2>healthcare workers across Gaza have continued showing up to care

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<v Speaker 2>for their patients in increasingly horrific circumstances. But now as

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<v Speaker 2>Israel's bombardment of Gaza City intensifies, doctor Alessi has had

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<v Speaker 2>to make a devastating decision stay and care for his

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<v Speaker 2>patients or flee to save his family. I'm Ruby Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're listening to seven AM today doctor Rachel Cockland

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<v Speaker 2>on her friend doctor Comis Alessie. It's Wednesday, October one. Rachel,

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<v Speaker 2>You've been speaking to many healthcare workers in Gaza, including

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<v Speaker 2>your friend doctor Carmis Alessi, regularly since October seven. So

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<v Speaker 2>when Israels bombardment began two years ago, tell me about

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<v Speaker 2>what your friends told you about the decision to stay

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<v Speaker 2>and to keep the hospitals going.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there is a deep sense of staying to

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<v Speaker 1>care for your people. Every single health worker that I

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<v Speaker 1>am in contact with, has not stopped caring, has not

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<v Speaker 1>stopped turning up to work. Despite all personal risks. Comis

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<v Speaker 1>has had opportunity to leave Gaza to live in safety

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<v Speaker 1>in other parts of the world, and he made a

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<v Speaker 1>very conscious decision at the beginning of this conflict to

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<v Speaker 1>stay with his family to protect his fami family and

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<v Speaker 1>that includes both his seven children and his wife and

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<v Speaker 1>his huge extended family, and to continue to help caring

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<v Speaker 1>for the poorer people in Gaza who was suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>I had many good offers ready to live Gaza over

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<v Speaker 3>the past seven hundred and fifteen days. I refused really

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<v Speaker 3>and remained in Gaza, serving thousands and thousands of people

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<v Speaker 3>and needed patience.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost everyone I know in Gaza has stayed, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what profession, no matter what their background, they have stepped

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<v Speaker 1>up to support and to care for their people. He

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<v Speaker 1>has had to evacuate several times. I can't I've lost

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<v Speaker 1>count of the number of times that he has had

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<v Speaker 1>to move his house and move his family.

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<v Speaker 3>I personally, with my family and my sisters and my

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<v Speaker 3>mother and my brothers, have moved more than thirteen times

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<v Speaker 3>from one place to another.

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<v Speaker 1>Living in fear, living with very little water, difficulty getting food,

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<v Speaker 1>no secure realty, and real attempts to stay and to

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, hold on to hope.

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<v Speaker 2>And what has come is said to you about his work,

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<v Speaker 2>about what he's been seeing in these hospitals that he's

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<v Speaker 2>been in over the past two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Commiss has described, you know, in great detail, the decimation,

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<v Speaker 1>and he coined at one point recently the one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>ways to die in Gaza. Whether that's from drinking dirty water,

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<v Speaker 1>unclean and unsafe water, snipers and quad copters, whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>from aerial bombardment, whether that's from being a cancer patient

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<v Speaker 1>and not having access to healthcare anymore, or a dialysis

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<v Speaker 1>patient not having access to dialysis.

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<v Speaker 3>More than eleven thousand cancer patients are left with no medicines,

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<v Speaker 3>no chemotherapy in no radiotherapy, and no surgery and no

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<v Speaker 3>pain relief, no palliative care for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't had a steady supply of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>right medicine or any medicines in fact, for a very

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<v Speaker 1>very long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell this moment, more than three hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 3>individuals in Gaza are suffering from infectious diseases ranging between

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<v Speaker 3>gastroententritis the area, respiratory infections and infectious skin infections in

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<v Speaker 3>the people in the refugee areas.

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<v Speaker 2>And as that was happening, as medicines were running out

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<v Speaker 2>and things were getting worse in Gaza, you would have

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<v Speaker 2>been seeing the death counts come out sometimes daily, and

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose trying to work out if it was your colleagues,

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<v Speaker 2>if it was your friends who were among the people killed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and that's still a daily thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You wake up in the morning and check you WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 1>messages in the hope that those little blue ticks appear

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<v Speaker 1>and that they have read the messages. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>that they are still alive. And some of my friends

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<v Speaker 1>and my colleagues have been killed. My friend Mahmud Alhendi,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a father to eight children and a grandchildren

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<v Speaker 1>and a trained nurse who worked at Alali Hospital supporting

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<v Speaker 1>women with breast cancer. He was murdered in March twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four as he stepped onto his balcony. He was

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<v Speaker 1>snipered in the chest three times by Israeli forces. We

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<v Speaker 1>had another colleague, doctor hammam Alo, who sent a message

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<v Speaker 1>from his father's house near Al Shifa. We said, the

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<v Speaker 1>sounds I'm hearing now worse than action in video games.

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<v Speaker 1>Bombing hasn't stopped for hours, and he was debating whether

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<v Speaker 1>to go to work that day to treat his dialysis patients.

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<v Speaker 1>He was one of Gars's handful of mophrologists who provided

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<v Speaker 1>central dialysis treatment for people with kidney disease. And just

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<v Speaker 1>after he had sent that message, he was killed by

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of bomb strike on his father's home, alongside

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<v Speaker 1>his father and his brother in law and his father

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<v Speaker 1>in law. And he was thirty six years old. And

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<v Speaker 1>he had last message that morning actually and said in

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<v Speaker 1>his very last message on WhatsApp, you're shouting me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to us.

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<v Speaker 4>Please keep it up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know whether it's silly or not, but

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<v Speaker 1>find myself sending them a tribute via WhatsApps if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for them to message back, because I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way that I have to say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up the decision facing doctor carmis Alessi Rachel. In

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<v Speaker 2>the past two weeks, Israel has stepped up its bombing

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<v Speaker 2>of Gaza City. There's been air strikes, heavy artillery has

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<v Speaker 2>flattened buildings, including hospitals. So what do we know about

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<v Speaker 2>whether it is still possible to provide medical care in

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza right now?

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<v Speaker 1>So we know that I think the UN Human Rights

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<v Speaker 1>off Us put out a release in the last few days.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've calculated seventeen in Israeli attacks on on

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<v Speaker 1>near health facilities in Gaza City since the sixteenth of September,

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<v Speaker 1>So in the last couple of weeks. And what we

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<v Speaker 1>are hearing on the ground from healthcare workers that we

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<v Speaker 1>know there who were still in those healthcare facilities and

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<v Speaker 1>hospitals in Gaza City is that there are daily attacks

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<v Speaker 1>on already decimated hospitals and clinics. More than half of

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<v Speaker 1>the hospitals in Gaza City are no longer working. Al

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<v Speaker 1>Shifa Hospital, the main hospital in Gaza, continues to be

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<v Speaker 1>partially functional. Our Ali Hospital continues to be partially functional.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Kuds run by the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, continues

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<v Speaker 1>to be partially functional. But when we say partially functional,

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<v Speaker 1>that's incredibly limited service. And yet the healthcare staff stay

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<v Speaker 1>and there are patients still in those hospitals needing urgent healthcare.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what have these latest attacks meant for doctor Kamis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he Commis left a lengthy voice message last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was describing that after seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen days or so, he had finally made the decision

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<v Speaker 1>that he needed to move him and his family from

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza City.

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<v Speaker 3>After seven hundred and fifteen days of being steadfast in

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<v Speaker 3>Gaza and working with people here trying to save as

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<v Speaker 3>many lives as possible, finally I decided to leave Gada

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<v Speaker 3>to the middle zone of Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, his message was pained and exhausted, and his voice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, occasionally cracking through the message.

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<v Speaker 3>They've added new tools of our parent massacres, using sixteen

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<v Speaker 3>bombing of total of towers, buildings, detonation of thanks amongst

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<v Speaker 3>residential blocks, and choosing by c helicopters or helicopters on people.

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<v Speaker 1>He described having to leave behind his aunt, who had

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<v Speaker 1>been killed only days before last week.

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<v Speaker 3>I've lost my only aunt with her children and grandchildren,

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<v Speaker 3>almost fifty three individuals of that family, four generations, has

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<v Speaker 3>gone completely until now we cannot retrieve her body or

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<v Speaker 3>the bodies or her kids and help children.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas many people were making the journey out and still

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<v Speaker 1>are making the journey out of Gaza City on foot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, carrying what possessions they have on their shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>or in their carts or shopping trolleys or whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>whatever means they have commiss in some ways is in

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<v Speaker 1>a luckier group and was able to pay for transport.

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<v Speaker 3>Just for transportation and immediate rental, you need four thousand

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<v Speaker 3>year stumps, which cannot be afforded by the vast majority.

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<v Speaker 1>They can hear the bombing of Gaza City from where

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<v Speaker 1>they are, but they are alive and in a humble

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<v Speaker 1>place and in a calmer place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it must be an extraordinarily hard decision to make

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<v Speaker 2>as a healthcare worker. How long you stay and at

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<v Speaker 2>what point maybe you leave?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and you know, none of us can imagine what

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<v Speaker 1>it takes to make that kind of a decision. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I have so many friends in Gaza who

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<v Speaker 1>have had the opportunity to leave Gaza but have remained

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<v Speaker 1>and their immediate families, their wife and their children may

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<v Speaker 1>have left Gaza for safety, but they have stayed both

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<v Speaker 1>to care for their patients and to care for their

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<v Speaker 1>extended family, their parents, their grandparents, the older people in

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<v Speaker 1>their family who are just simply not able to evacuate.

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<v Speaker 1>The steadfastness of the Palestinians of Gazas is an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>ethics and incredible humanity that is almost impossible for any

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<v Speaker 1>of us outside to comprehend.

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<v Speaker 2>And so what is next now for Commis and the

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<v Speaker 2>family that he does still have.

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<v Speaker 1>He has landed in a place and has somewhere to stay.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine knowing how is he will be seeking out

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<v Speaker 1>the nearest hospital clinic or healthclare clinic or hospital so

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<v Speaker 1>that he can continue to provide his service as a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants the world to know that he's just an

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary person who wants to live a decent life, who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to live in peace, who wants to live in

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<v Speaker 1>peace in Gaza, who was always advocated for peace, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who was always advocated for saving lives and supporting people

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<v Speaker 1>wherever he has worked, and that's been around the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and I imagine that he will continue doing that wherever

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<v Speaker 1>he has landed.

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<v Speaker 3>My message is a message of peace and a message

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<v Speaker 3>of hope for everyone, not only for Partsinas, but for

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<v Speaker 3>every individuals, for every national worldwide. This is my message.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope together we can promote peace and tranquility. We

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<v Speaker 3>can bring back hope to the people who have lost

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<v Speaker 3>hopes in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Rachel, Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>speaking with me pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Ruby.

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<v Speaker 2>Also in the news today, the Reserve Bank has left

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<v Speaker 2>interest rates on hold at three point six percent. While

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<v Speaker 2>the board said inflation has fallen substantially since its peak

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two, They also pointed to the global

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<v Speaker 2>economy as a factor in their decision, specifically the impact

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump's tariffs, along with conditions in the labor market

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<v Speaker 2>and productivity. The RBA has previously lowered interest rates three

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<v Speaker 2>times this year, and a Pentagon review into Orcus is ongoing,

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<v Speaker 2>according to Defense Minister Richard Miles. Yesterday, Nikayasia reported that

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<v Speaker 2>the review was done and the Orcust deal was safe,

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<v Speaker 2>but official confirmation has not been released by the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>Despite that, Miles says his confident the deal will go ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>The review being conducted by noted Orcust skeptic Elbridge Colby

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<v Speaker 2>is overdue and Ruby Jones, this is seven am. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for listening.