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Speaker 1: Yeah, hello guys, welcome to Backstage's Final Series, which when

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Speaker 1: I do right through into the Grand Final Wednesday, We've

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Speaker 1: got our first Finals Series preview coming up. I have

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Speaker 1: something special for you there. But this week we got

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Speaker 1: Jerome Hughes one on one interview, will two on one interview. Well, Jerome,

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Speaker 1: it's Murphy's law in it. We interviewed him two days

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Speaker 1: before that for the risk form injury, the break that

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Speaker 1: he did the other night against the Brisbane Broncos, which

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Speaker 1: are men. What a loss for Melbourne and it's going

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Speaker 1: to be very very hard to win without Jerome. We

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Speaker 1: have our fingers cross that he's somehow able to make

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Speaker 1: it back onto the field. But in this interview it's

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Speaker 1: a beauty. He talks about going into the Final series

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Speaker 1: this year, getting over his shoulder injury, and he talks

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Speaker 1: about his career and one of the things I found

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Speaker 1: really really interesting through this chat talks about last year

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Speaker 1: and how the week leading into the Grand Final winning

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Speaker 1: the Dallym Medal Weld just affected his performance on the

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Speaker 1: big night anyway, his Jerome Hughes enjoy I mean, wow, what.

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Speaker 2: Just happened to your lighting?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You like that?

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Speaker 1: Like it?

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Speaker 3: You like that, What the hell bot light?

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Speaker 2: You want me to kick it?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: Was you the one that keeps You're the one that

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Speaker 1: keeps telling the Melbourne Boys you run this show. So

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Speaker 1: let's continue the.

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Speaker 3: Pacific the Cooper John's Family Show.

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Speaker 2: That's whatever it's called. Backstage, mate, see you've been listening.

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Speaker 2: Can I just ask where where are you? Is that

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Speaker 2: like belly Aches dungeon or something? Where are you recording

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Speaker 2: this out.

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Speaker 3: Of this is a little studio that we have in North's.

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Speaker 3: I've gotta be quiet because belly aches upstairs?

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Speaker 2: Why is there a blue light? Like a police like

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Speaker 2: complete like when they go to a murdercine and they

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Speaker 2: put the blue light over the sheets.

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Speaker 3: Just so you know, there's no nothing going on on

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Speaker 3: these on these couches. That's why the blue lights on there?

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Speaker 3: And what are you doing now?

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Speaker 1: You continue? My ear My earphone is just dropped out.

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Speaker 1: My eyes are so bad. I can't even see the whole.

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Speaker 2: Jerome, we wanted to ask you as well, Jerome, just

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Speaker 2: off the top fatherhood Now it's it's right around the

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Speaker 2: corner for you.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Are you excited?

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Speaker 3: I am very excited, Coops. It's a bit of a

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Speaker 3: mixture though I'm excited, but I'm also a little bit nervous.

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Speaker 3: So I was hoping Trush was going to be on

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Speaker 3: the show to give me a few tips, but I

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Speaker 3: guess I'm going to have to go to Maddie. He done.

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Speaker 3: He had a fifty percent strike rate of a great kid.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, croudy of Jack.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot I hope.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to give you some advice, Jerome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what did you do with Jack that you

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Speaker 3: obviously change with Coop, because I want to know the

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Speaker 3: way of Jack's upbringing.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jerome, lots of affection he made, always picking him

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Speaker 1: up wherever I went. He came with me, mate, always

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Speaker 1: talking at nights, laying next to you and rubbing his head.

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Speaker 1: And then with Cooper, I don't know, he just sort

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Speaker 1: of I don't know. I didn't. Yeah, look, I didn't

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Speaker 1: one thing you're going to find is, and quite seriously here,

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Speaker 1: the first night or two is quite terrifying because suddenly

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Speaker 1: you've got this little baby in your possession and you're

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Speaker 1: all the time, all the time in the hospital you're going, okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, is who or is she? Okay? You know

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Speaker 1: it's it okay, breathing fine and crying, oh no, not

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Speaker 1: crying again. Then all of a sudden, you don't hear

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Speaker 1: them crying. You go, okay, is everything? Okay? It just honestly,

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Speaker 1: there's and that's just that's just the first week and

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Speaker 1: that's natural. But you get yourself into a rhythm and

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Speaker 1: it is one of the Well, Jerome, we won the

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Speaker 1: Grand Final the week before Jack was born, and to

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Speaker 1: that point it was the greatest moment in my life,

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Speaker 1: including marrying Truish and then when Jack was born. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, hopefully we can do the same this year.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully I want to we win a Grand Final and

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Speaker 3: then a couple of weeks later baby comes, so very exciting.

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Speaker 2: When when's he supposed to be due.

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Speaker 3: At the end of October early November.

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Speaker 2: Does that mean does that mean you're allowed to go

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no chance for me. Zero times. I'm going away

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what I did Drome when we

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Speaker 1: won the compan Newcastle. Trish was in in ib hospital

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Speaker 1: week alongside Trish. So this is fed. So we did.

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Speaker 1: And then I'd go out all day drinking and then

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Speaker 1: I'd come back about eleven thirty at night and then

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Speaker 1: Tricia go don't let him in, don't let him in,

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Speaker 1: and the nurses let me in. I'd go lay down.

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Speaker 1: They'd ordered me pizzas or I'd have a kebab. It

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Speaker 1: was honestly one of the greatest weeks I could live

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Speaker 3: That actually sounds good. Yeah, you're at a hotel with everything.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what it was like. And Trish was like

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Speaker 1: when they said, trush gabs, how but we might go

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Speaker 1: just a couple of days, babe.

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Speaker 2: Well I'll tell you right now, Jerome. I'll make sure

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Speaker 2: that he takes full advantage of fatherhood because this is

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Speaker 2: a bloke that has the last decade is known for

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Speaker 2: just absolutely ravaging freebies from brands, I can only imagine

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Speaker 2: that he's already started hitting up Huggies and things like

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Speaker 3: Coop Mate, that's not me. I'm not about the plug life.

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Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. Harry Grant's a massive one at

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Speaker 3: the moment. But yeah, that's not me. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why you bring that up, because that's definitely not what

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Speaker 3: I'm about. Yeah, I've been at baby Bunting the last

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Speaker 3: just purchasing all my things.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to act like that wasn't sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to plug a pet food story if

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Speaker 3: We do have a pet as well, But that's not me.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, you're also a great lesson for

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Speaker 3: Well you put me on the spot now it's about

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Speaker 2: Years, and I mean I always look back on your

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Speaker 2: when you decided to make a music.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not going to bring this up. Please tell me,

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Speaker 3: Please tell me you don't have it.

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Speaker 2: I have it. I've got it locked away. I've got

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Speaker 2: the music video locked away. I know the boys monster

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Speaker 2: and perhaps stugged up for your body as well. But

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Speaker 2: to tell dad exactly what it is now? Usually was

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Speaker 3: No, so do you. I'm going to explain it because

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Speaker 3: I feel like you're going to lie and say it's different. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you we were just in year ten. Molly was at

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Speaker 1: And you know, you did a world drome because she

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Speaker 1: Molly took pity on you playing playing that Victimus role,

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Speaker 1: and what sort of song is it? Is it like

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Speaker 3: It's a bit of uh what would you say, but

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Speaker 2: It's like that early song.

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Speaker 3: Sort of love sort of. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I look at it almost like early two thousands, usher

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Speaker 2: like a little bit. And Jerome is usher in it

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Speaker 2: like he's he's lip syncing the lyrics and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: It's you and Jalen Jalen Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's my girl on it.

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Speaker 3: So well, better to.

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Speaker 1: Be than did that? Would that would date very badly

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Speaker 1: that it would be good if you give it to me, Coop,

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Speaker 1: I'll put it on the show.

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Speaker 3: No socials, No socials. You can watch it privately, but

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Speaker 1: I couldn't do that too, Jeram, I do enjoy the

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Speaker 1: What I was horrified at when I listened to last

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Speaker 1: night Monster is on the he's on the motivational speaking circuit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. He was off at a at a gig for

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Speaker 2: Have he was he was educating people like he was

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Speaker 3: help the miming come. I want I want to figure

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Speaker 3: People are mining mining mining? Maybe it was apolyges I

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Speaker 1: Going to say, be very very difficult to a motivational

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Speaker 3: Conviction about their movements the company.

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Speaker 1: By the way, after his motivationalk just fall off Cliff.

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Speaker 2: With the potty? Who's in your eyes? Because obviously you

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Speaker 2: perhaps and months are very different. Who did what's the

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Speaker 3: He's the lead man. He's the lead man. So like Coop,

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Speaker 3: you know how you say you lead the family podcast,

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Speaker 3: you're the main guy. Yeah, Yeah, that's what that's what

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Speaker 3: he's saying. Anyway, that's what's Coop's been coming down here

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Speaker 2: Not sobriety, but maybe listen every now and then you

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Speaker 3: But yeah, perhaps he's he's the organizer. He's he's pretty

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Speaker 3: how we want to talk about, and keeps everything pretty

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Speaker 3: I'm in the middle. I reckon personally, I'm a bit

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Speaker 3: and then one's just for Alerican.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm sensing here, I'm sensing that perhaps would

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Speaker 1: I won't say George, you'd be so maybe George. I'll

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Speaker 2: Dad, You're using a reference to a TV show that

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Speaker 3: It's just about I've never seen Side Field in my life.

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Speaker 3: I've heard about it, but I've never watched it.

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Speaker 2: Like a discussion. That's that's a reference that's gone just

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Speaker 1: That AFL player who's called the sexiest man in AFL,

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Speaker 1: Baylor Smith. Okay, who was what's who come first? Who

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Speaker 1: was the who was the og? As you young people, says, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it was Bailey A.

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Speaker 3: I actually don't know.

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Speaker 2: Now I reckon. I reckon it was because I remember

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Speaker 2: like the full look. Yeah, the I'm pretty sure it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're saying perhaps just fully copied Bailey Smith.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he copied that, but I'm saying I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty sure Alie Smith came first and then perhaps thought

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Speaker 2: my hair can go like that as well, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then but then perhaps also grew the mustache shout

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Speaker 1: It's interesting something to think about anyway, gentlemen, I know

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's vice versa, but especially down

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Speaker 1: Jerome. One of the things I listened to you did

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Speaker 1: so I would definitely go cook a full time clok cook.

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Speaker 1: that's just not in the same category. And I've got

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Speaker 1: my local one.

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Speaker 2: That I like to go to.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, It'd be pretty cheap tooldn't it.

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Speaker 2: We had the one down in Richmond as well on

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Speaker 3: A few there, brothers.

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Speaker 2: It's not a plug. I reckon I'd go. I reckon,

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Speaker 2: I go cook because it cooks three times a day,

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Speaker 2: it's pretty easy to clean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we we we tossed up. We talked about

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Speaker 3: cleaning everything, like doing the dishes, doing the washing, vacuuming,

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Speaker 3: moping if you need to that sort of stuff. Car Wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: clean the car when you want.

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Speaker 1: Cars will clean. This morning Jack's partner Jem and Trusha

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Speaker 1: out there cleaning all the cars this morning. Excellent work. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I did I did mine. I actually did mine. It's

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Speaker 2: a tough it's actually a tough gig cleaning your car.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like every it doesn't matter how

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Speaker 3: you know what, I struggled.

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Speaker 2: I struggled with the streaks on the window, you know,

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Speaker 2: like when you're trying to wipe, and then afterwards I

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Speaker 1: I just I just imagine there you saying to one

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Speaker 1: it's pretty tough. It's pretty tough work cleaning the car.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sound pretty ungrateful. Now he husey talk to

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Speaker 3: It's going really good. Thanks, Yeah, from I guess the

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Speaker 3: week after I'd done it, I actually my shoulder felt

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Speaker 3: really good, Like I felt good. Obviously there was a

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Speaker 3: because you've had a few shoulders before, right, Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 3: I done one. I dislocated the same one in the

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Speaker 3: testimonial we played and Cam smith Yeah up there and Brizzy.

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Speaker 3: That was the last time I dessicated this shoulder and

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Speaker 3: didn't have surgery that time, just rehabbed it and had

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Speaker 3: no problems. But yeah, now I've done this one, I

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Speaker 1: That testimonial. Was that played for points or was that

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Speaker 1: just a trial game?

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Speaker 3: What was trial game? Trial game?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, geez, you would have been happy about that doing

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Speaker 3: The funny thing was I was actually only supposed to

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Speaker 3: play twenty minutes, So I played played my twenty minutes,

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Speaker 2: Do you remember you remember how it ended? Do you

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Speaker 2: remember shout out to Matt Soaper Lawla who Matt super Lawla.

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Speaker 2: He he come down and did a pre season with us,

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Speaker 2: remember that, and he worked really hard and he was

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Speaker 2: those banana kicks straight out to Kyle Fell and they

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Speaker 2: scored on SOPs. That for Laura Paul Bloke, he just

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Speaker 2: played in his first NRL trial and he felt like

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure Harry Harry took a show off JT

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Speaker 3: that that night too, and I'm pretty sure Bells are absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Sprayed them yeah at half time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that his testimonial mate Harry's just oh no,

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Speaker 3: We're going to make him look good.

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Speaker 2: So have you had any other injuries? What are some

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Speaker 2: other ones you've had because you did a what what

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Speaker 2: Kaylen Ponger's done this year is rather.

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Speaker 3: I had to Liz Frank in twenty seventeen. Obviously had

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Speaker 3: pretty major. But touch with they've been they've been really

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Speaker 3: good now. But yeah, Liz Frank, obviously two dislocaded shoulders,

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Speaker 3: two broken hands, one hand each.

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Speaker 2: Do you struggle with the hand, because remember when you

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Speaker 2: came back from that hand, you'd like, was it struggling

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Speaker 2: to catch or fend or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Uh No, I was actually pretty good actually, so I

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Speaker 3: was only out for one week for both hands, which

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Speaker 3: is really weird. But yeah, no, I didn't haven't had

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Speaker 3: any any danger with them. I think I dropped when

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Speaker 3: we played my first game back and manly i'd dropped

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Speaker 2: Well, you're are the luckiest man in probably Melbourne Storm history,

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Speaker 2: because every time the preseason comes around, Drome always happens

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Speaker 2: to get a surgery. So he's out. So he's missed

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Speaker 2: every army camp in Melbourne Storm history. He's the only

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Speaker 3: Mister Walsh too. He's after me, he's not letting me

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Speaker 3: forget it. We actually had a Craig you know, Bellamy's

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Speaker 3: six hundredth game this weekend and we had a little

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Speaker 3: Apparently they're bringing it back this year. We've had a

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Speaker 3: couple of years off just due to numbers, not been

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Speaker 3: and apparently I'm going so hoping that surgery takes a

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Speaker 1: Do it now. In recording this, Jerome Billy, I had

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Speaker 1: his six hundredth dinner last night. Did you blow skirt?

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Speaker 3: Nah? We didn't go to that one. We went to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at your own just on belly ache, right?

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Speaker 1: How different is he now to your first pre season?

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Speaker 1: How much has he changed?

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Speaker 3: same values and all that, and you know, same way

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Speaker 3: he likes to coach. He's just I think he's just

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Speaker 3: because I don't I don't think you could get away

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Speaker 2: I think what about do you reckon. It's your relationship

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Speaker 2: with him as well, because I remember, like my first

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Speaker 2: like about things that you just never say. Obviously, what's

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, we're pretty good now. Like I think what

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Speaker 3: you're same as what you were saying, Coots when I

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Speaker 3: I honestly just try ignore him as much as I could,

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Speaker 3: it's kind of good for the I guess the rest

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Speaker 1: I'll ask both of you, Blake's what's the best pray

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Speaker 1: you've ever copped off him. Cooper's it's hard to select one.

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Speaker 2: Ah far out, you know, And I think I've spun.

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Speaker 2: I've spent a couple before on potties and that, But

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Speaker 2: He learns more about a bloke in the three day

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Speaker 2: And we were doing a speech after two days of

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Speaker 2: was happy, happy with where I was at. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: to get the stormer app literally. When we get back

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Speaker 2: you haven't slept, all the boys there they do a barbecue,

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Speaker 2: The next day. The first thing he brought up in

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Speaker 2: was how much he hated hearing me say that I

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Speaker 2: up a storm fan.

438
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: I could. I could fully imagine him too, like if

439
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 3: you said something like that, he'd be like, oh no,

440
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get into this floke.

441
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: I love the fact that when you said it, like,

442
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 1: he must just stewed on.

443
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: It was like two days later he brought it up

444
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 2: and it was such a little thing, and I was like, oh,

445
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,119
Speaker 2: and let's be honest, I'd done some I'd had some

446
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: worst efforts in the army camp than that speech, So

447
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 2: I thought he could have.

448
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: Pulled me up on anything else. But have you had

449
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:47,360
Speaker 3: any using Yeah, the main one was probably I think

450
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,719
Speaker 3: it was into twenty eighteen. I went on the Keywis

451
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 3: camp over to England. So I went over there. I

452
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 3: didn't play any games. I was just yeah, just aiding

453
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 3: man pretty much the whole whole trip, and enjoyed the tripping.

454
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 3: So I come back to pre season later that year

455
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: a little bit late and got my time off, and

456
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: then I come back just underdone as ever, like running

457
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: ship times, like my weight was just like I was

458
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: heavier than I normally am and skin folds her up

459
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 3: and he just absolutely ripped into me like prop like

460
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 3: calling me like fatsy, Like.

461
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: Was that private?

462
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: Hey?

463
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: Was that privately?

464
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: No? It was like we were actually like you know,

465
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: you know, he pulls you aside when you're out training

466
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 3: if he's got something to tay. He's like, oh, just

467
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: come over here quickly this week, Like you thought, yeah,

468
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 3: you know, got a bit of experience under my belt,

469
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: you know, being picked in the Kiwis tour, like might

470
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 3: have some some choice words for me. But he just

471
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 3: absolutely ripped me one. And I've tried to come back

472
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 3: after every tour pretty decent now.

473
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: Because I remember that preseason because at the time we

474
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: obviously had you drink Scotti, drink water and perhaps as

475
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: the fullbacks, and I don't think you got one rapper

476
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: as first choice fullback the whole preseason.

477
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 3: That's actually the funniest thing because I started round one,

478
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: but only I was third string only because the other

479
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: two points were injured.

480
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Drinking did his pack?

481
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does pecking Like the last the last trial

482
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: against Cowboys. I think it was a makai or something. Yeah,

483
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: and I'm pretty sure Paps was injured and then yeah,

484
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 3: I was he had to play me. I don't think

485
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: he was very happy that I had to play me either.

486
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 3: After the pre season, I just had.

487
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: Do you remember also talking about a blast from the past,

488
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 2: the only other bloke who probably was always on Bells's

489
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 2: bad side in preseason, and I think he always had

490
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 2: it he said, no, he's I'm not going to play

491
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: in round one. I'm not going to play Round one.

492
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Always ends up playing round one. Back in the day,

493
00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: Chase Blair. Chase Blair was the exact same. He would

494
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: always come back like twenty kilos overweight.

495
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: And I think it was because the way Chase was

496
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: he was just so cruisy, like just that was just

497
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 3: his manner. He just cruised through everything, like training, just life.

498
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 3: He was just so such the cruisiest dude evan. I

499
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: think Bells has just hated that about me. But he

500
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: was a talented footballer.

501
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember when we used to do wrestle sessions music

502
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,479
Speaker 2: because Chase was like he that's it would have been

503
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,439
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten kilos as a center.

504
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 3: Paul as two like big, yeah.

505
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: Six four, And he'd wrestled with We used to wrestle

506
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: like backs and forwards, and he'd come wrestled with the backs.

507
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: And remember like every no one wanted to go in

508
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: his group. Everyone would like just go over, Like how

509
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: no one would wrestle with Nelson. Everybody would shuffle over

510
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: away from Chase. He would flog bloats.

511
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: Really, he was so strong, so strong, so big, I'll

512
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: tear something. Boys back in the day, can you imagine,

513
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 1: like how blokes you get ripped coming back overweight, like

514
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: in the nineties, like in the early nineties, mate, because

515
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: there was very, very little player welfare. Some of the

516
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 1: things the coaches used to say. Actually, my first preseason

517
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty nine, right, and I remember sitting there

518
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: like school kid, and they're going through the list of players, right,

519
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 1: so and so so and so so and so, and

520
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: he goes, I'll make up a name here, Johnny Heffron,

521
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: And Johnny Heffron stood up and he goes and the

522
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: coach goes, oh, fuck, look at you, mate. Your name

523
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: going forward now is LRD.

524
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: So LRD.

525
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: Just keep running, We'll tell you when to stop. They

526
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: don't set him off Fletch tells Rue about Phil Gold

527
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, I'm sorry in the mid nineties,

528
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: and gust does a speech, gets up, mate, this is

529
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: what we're going to do this year, and I'm going

530
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: to eoze into the train and then looks over at

531
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: one of the players, who is terrific bloke. I'm not

532
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: going to say, is that embarrassing? He goes, what the fuck?

533
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: Get up here, right, flash gas, everyone's going, and he goes,

534
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: get your train and shirt off. Look at fucking this disgrace. Right,

535
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: our boys, we're gonna do nothing to They going to

536
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: do skills, but be course of this bloke. We're doing fitness.

537
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't let the blow put his shirt back on,

538
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: and Gus would run run alongside him at times, going

539
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: here you going, chubbsy, Hey, you're happy with himself?

540
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: Now that that kind of sounds like what was what

541
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 2: was belly Ache's nickname for?

542
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Can he be?

543
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: Can you promise?

544
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh? The what do you call it?

545
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 1: Was it pork?

546
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: No, we're calling him Pulk's but I think it was

547
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: because of the ham sandwich thing. Is that that story?

548
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to Im trying to remember.

549
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: What it was. It's it was a bluetooth man.

550
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: You know what.

551
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 2: I actually caught up with the bluetooth man last week

552
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: when he was Redcliffe played against Manly and he begged

553
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: me to stop telling the story.

554
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: That's the greatest of all time stories.

555
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: Like excuse me, here's sorry, mate, Sorry we're talking while

556
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: you're interrupting, Hughesy like you've won, You've won a camp

557
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: and you've been there, You've played a heap of final series, mate,

558
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: and and you know you've wanted the Nationals with the kiwis.

559
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: Where do you reckon? This team's out at the moment

560
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: heading into this final series, because mate, this this final series,

561
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: My god, it's wide open.

562
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: No, We're boys are going really good. I actually feel

563
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: it's probably a bad thing to say, but I feel

564
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: like they've really take the big have taken a big

565
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: leap while I've been out. I feel like they're really

566
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: I think you said it on the Ready or something

567
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: many they're better off without me, But but I actually

568
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 3: think they have actually really simplified their game and they're

569
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: playing really well. They're you know, there've been some good

570
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: teams the last couple of weeks without a few few

571
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 3: of us US boys, A couple of boys have missed

572
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: a few games myself perhaps, and I feel like we're

573
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: trekking the right way of how we how we really

574
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 3: want to play coming into the finals. So yeah, if

575
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: we can get all the boys back on the park

576
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: and hopefully get a game together, maybe maybe next week.

577
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 3: Obviously Harry, Harry's out, but I feel like we've got

578
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: a bit of momentum going into the finals.

579
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're I think I think with yourself

580
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: now Harry missing, I actually think it does as far

581
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: as luding into the finals and what's going to do performance,

582
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: I think it'll really help you because when you guys

583
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: were playing, and mate Hughesy, you were just completely on

584
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: fire and and some of those day games should played.

585
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: You guys were just blasting teams apart, and I reckon

586
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: the way just watching, you know, as a as an observer,

587
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: you sort of just maneuvered that way a little bit,

588
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: like watching us play, particularly at night, try to blow

589
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: sides away, coming up with theirs a little bit, and

590
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: you're losing a player like yourself, and they're gonna lose

591
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: Harry for a couple of weeks, you know. Again, it's

592
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: just forced the side to sort of simplify and go

593
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: back to that grinding, grafting style.

594
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: And that that's exactly how they've been playing too, Madie,

595
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: and I feel like if we can, you know, keep

596
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: that the main focus, especially for you know, the other

597
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: players in our team. Obviously there's a few things the

598
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: spine that we need to control, but if we can

599
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: really simplify our forwards jobs and outside backs, I think

600
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 3: they'll be better for our full player.

601
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: It's pretty it's pretty handy this year as well. Like

602
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: obviously you guys have had great depth in the halves

603
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: years before as well, but this year like having pez Tyrone, Wishart,

604
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: even Sewer when Suwer wasn't hurt with a hamstring like that,

605
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: if you Munster Harry or perhaps went down, like you've

606
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: got good players underneath who can do a job.

607
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been huge for our spine depth. I think

608
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 3: the boys you just named, they've come in and done

609
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: done a great job. Not just I feel like last

610
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: year was a good building year for them because we

611
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: had a lot of our spine out last year and

612
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: then this year they've sort of just carried on from

613
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: what they've done and obviously with more experience they're going

614
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 3: to be a lot better and they've showed that when

615
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: we've had players out in the spine, we you know,

616
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 3: we still play the footy that we know we're capable

617
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: of having those guys in.

618
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: There a Jerome, the six again rule, Like, just as

619
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: an observer, you're always a great player, you know, I

620
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: love I remember watching your play Sunshine Case Falcon sib

621
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: made this bloke. But you know you've You've always been

622
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,239
Speaker 1: a star. But the six again rule, how good that

623
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: has booned for you. You know, you've very much. You've

624
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: changed the way you know, halfbacks play now now they

625
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: look at you know, you as standard bearer saying mate,

626
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: they've got to have a great running game. In fact,

627
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: you know, Jerome's going to piss in your pocket. I

628
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: said last year and they said, oh, you're sure, and

629
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: then they dug up the stats and they went, fuck it.

630
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: It's true, mate, I think you're the greatest running halfback

631
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: of all time. But there's no doubt the rules, the

632
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: rules and the loosening of the rucks has been a

633
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: godsend for you.

634
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it has. I don't know about the best running

635
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: half of all time.

636
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: But I look I modestly as a mentor right here.

637
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been there's three good runners of the ball

638
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: in this potty right now. So but yeah, I feel

639
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: like my transition from fullback into the halves. No one

640
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: probably talks about the way the game's changed as well.

641
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 3: They're probably just more like of how have you done it?

642
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 3: Like what have you worked on to become a halfback

643
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: coming from fullback? But like you said, I think the

644
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: six again rules really changed half backs play and I

645
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: haven't changed too much. I've obviously had to add a

646
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: kicking game and defend differently. But when I see opportunity

647
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: to run, which is a lot nowadays with the fatigue

648
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: and the game and you know, less subs and six

649
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: agains and whatnot, you know, I can just play what

650
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: I play in front of me, and that's what I've

651
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: been doing for most of my career. So it's sort

652
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: of yeah, the changing of the rules has sort of

653
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: helped my transition.

654
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Going from one into into seven and originally it was six,

655
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: but going into the hars, what was the hardest thing

656
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: to transition?

657
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: Probably, I guess defense was probably one of them. Like

658
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: when you're a fullback, you don't. You don't need to

659
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 3: make many tackles and yeah, it's yeah, there's not much

660
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 3: contact going on. But now when you're in the line,

661
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: you're you're pretty much who everyone wants to run out.

662
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: So it's like just being able to, I guess, defend

663
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: as well as you can and slow play the balls

664
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 3: as well as you can because that's where everyone wants

665
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: to go, that's where they find as a weak spot

666
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: in the line. So yeah, just being able to learn

667
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: how to tackle, and yeah, the contact sessions really helped me.

668
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: How the hell did you blokes not win the camp

669
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: in Sunny Coast Falcons? You had there?

670
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: Was?

671
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: There was Jerome tin h Harry Paps, Was Nico there? Nico?

672
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: No? What was that year that I didn't play? Did I?

673
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

674
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: The year that we had that team Husually you you're

675
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: already gone into the first grade half back. So we

676
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: were there the year before together and we actually went

677
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: really bad and water Yeah I.

678
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Know which ones are.

679
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: Actually we actually had a good side. It was for

680
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: a lot of the year it was me, you, Paps

681
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: and Harry as the spine, but we were all kind

682
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: of it just didn't click.

683
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, what year was that?

684
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Eating two thousand and eight. I don't even think we

685
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: made the APE.

686
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: I feel like I was in and out heaps too,

687
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: because I'm pretty sure I think that was the year

688
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: Slee had a few injuries. Yeah, and around the origin times.

689
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: I don't think I played too many. But that year

690
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: that you had Nico, Tino, Harry, yourself, paps as well, Juzzy. Yeah,

691
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: that was a pretty.

692
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Tinai boys like Tino is one of the best is

693
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: in the game now when he was young, like winning

694
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: in Melbourne, Like, did you see that with Tina I.

695
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: Let you answer that. I want you to answer this is.

696
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: Ummm no, I'll take you that. No. Nah, it was

697
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: just he was just so young, and you know he

698
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 3: was coming. Yeah, he was only his first year that

699
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: he played twenty twenty. I think I think that was

700
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: his first full year and then he pretty much left

701
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: after that year, so he was still only really young there,

702
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 3: and it's pretty cool to see how far he's come,

703
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 3: even just just the way he talks now. You wouldn't

704
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: even think he'd be able to talk like that and

705
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 3: in front of media and doing interviews that so Coop you.

706
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: Laughed, what what? Yeah, just close your insight.

707
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. So I went up to the

708
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: Goldie a few weeks ago watch him play, and Tina

709
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: wasn't playing. He was in the sheds Now the Tina

710
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: that we remember as U see, who was just like

711
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: this big kid who like everything was a joke to

712
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: him and just would laugh at the stupidest shit. He's

713
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 2: like completely eradicated that now that he's Skipper. But when

714
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: when we see him like and Harry says, it's the

715
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: exact same thing when he goes into Queensland camp, he

716
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: just reverts back to that like eighteen year old at

717
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: Melbourne and ever and all the Titans boys like sammy

718
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: Errels and that come up after him, says, I've never

719
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: seen Tino be like that before ever. So he's just

720
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 2: he's just completely out there.

721
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: Obviously is the leader. Say that he's still hesit in him,

722
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 3: like when you go talk to him, like like if

723
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 3: I go talk to him if I'm playing after the

724
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: game or something, he's exactly the same as he was

725
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty.

726
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was he because remember that first year he

727
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: would have been like seventeen eighty young, and he remember

728
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: like when you're doing wrestling in the preseason. Obviously, some

729
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: of the forwards there that year, like Big Jesse Bromise,

730
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: Darlee Fanukin Nelson and Tino was young, and they sort

731
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: of went after Tea just to sort of like make

732
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: him tough. But Tino was like Tino was bloody, like

733
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: he'd hold the gloves up.

734
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: No, he was solid. I feel like that sort of

735
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: helped them, not like fully help them, but like that

736
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: helped them shape them into an NRL player. Like going

737
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: up against those boys and being able to hold your

738
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: own at such a young age. It just made it

739
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: that transition into NURL a little bit easier.

740
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I felt sorry for him back when Des was sacked,

741
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: right and they got they got Tino where they announced

742
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: it and they said, and they put Tino up because

743
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: you know he's the captain, and I thought too, and

744
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: I spoke very well. He said, you know, Des has

745
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: been held accountable. Coaches in the past have been held accountable.

746
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: I think it's time that the accountability lies somewhere else,

747
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: which I thought made great thing to say because he's

748
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: obviously talking about his teammates. But the next day in

749
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: the paper was Tino Slam's own club. They thought he

750
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 1: was talking about like all the board and the feet.

751
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: Well, Matthew, we were lucky enough to test drive the

752
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: Volkswagen EV range, the ID four Pro and the ID five.

753
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: How did you enjoy the test drive? Because it's a

754
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: lot of technology for.

755
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: A lot, it was a lot of technology, but once

756
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: you learn, it's pretty straightforward. So I loved to love

757
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: the I love the hollow Ida, the voices, yea, the

758
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: voice assistant. It actually made look it does learn your

759
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: habits and preferences, both good and unfortunately for me bad

760
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, I enjoyed it. Actually, you know,

761
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: it's like it's actually like Trish, except it doesn't ask

762
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: me what time I'll be having from the pubble, tell

763
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: me what friends I am allowed to hang out with.

764
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: Doesn't want to throw out my favorite clothes, my favorite shirt.

765
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Your shirts always get thrown out, but.

766
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: My favorite one she threw out last week, the Welcome

767
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: to Barley Sons out Guns out Buns out one.

768
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: You don't even like Barley.

769
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: It's not about liking Barley. I just really like the

770
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: fabric there and the shirts they bring out bin Tang.

771
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: Have you only beat a bali twice? Twice? Twice twice?

772
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: Once in let me see if I can guess it.

773
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Once in nineteen ninety seven and then once this year.

774
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: A nineteen ninety eight we took Jack there as a

775
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: young fella and guess what, guess what, I know what

776
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: you're going to say, you conceivee in Bali.

777
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: Allegedly that's what. We don't know that for sure.

778
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no no, I'm philly certain. That's

779
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: my only the only two great memories I go from Bali.

780
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: Every time I get to Bali, I get crooked.

781
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the tap water.

782
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: Yeah no, there's no ider in Bali? Hello ider? How

783
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: do I get over Bali? Belly?

784
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: You know what I liked about the Volkswagen as well,

785
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,919
Speaker 2: the range of ambient colors that you can select within

786
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: the car to let people know. There's about thirty different

787
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: light colors and you can set it to whatever your

788
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: favorite color is inside and the interior like the lining

789
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: of the car and the color of the home screen

790
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: will change to that color.

791
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: It Actually, when I was at the the miss off,

792
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: like when I was a young kid. If the old

793
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: man brought that back, like it'd be as a kid

794
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: at hog Heaven, because you got made all the difference

795
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: colors you got the pink one. Was it called neon

796
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: pink ice blue. It was actually a little bit like,

797
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, going out of the town, going to a nightclub.

798
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: Back in the day, back in the day.

799
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, back in the day.

800
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: Twenty I haven't been on a nightclub in twenty years.

801
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: That's a huge porky.

802
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 2: You went to my well, and there's been multiple examples since.

803
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: But my eighteenth birthday was at a nightclub and you

804
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: were there. We had to put you in a taxi.

805
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Remind me my eighteenth birthday?

806
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but which way it was? Oh yeah, kid man?

807
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: That and then and the other day. We're just talking

808
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: about it on the film on the podcast you come Home.

809
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: As I was getting up from morning radio at four thirty,

810
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: you were getting home and no pub stays open that late.

811
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: You would have had to have been a nightclub. You're

812
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: and how old are you? Fifty four?

813
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: Fifty four? Yeah, yeah, so twenty years a bit of

814
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: a stretch. Twenty months have had that.

815
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, what's going on?

816
00:39:58,920 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: What would be your color?

817
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: And then what's your favorite color?

818
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: I like the I like the neon pink one. Thought

819
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: I thought it was thought it was really really cool.

820
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: I thought it was good.

821
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: What about you?

822
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: I like, I like the purple when I actually I

823
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: said it the purple at one stage love purple is

824
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: my favorite color.

825
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Well, it's the most regal color. Do you know, Like

826
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: when do you know how they made purple back in

827
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: the day? Why it was the color of kings. It's

828
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: because it is the hardest color to produce. So back

829
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: in the day, the only way they could produce the

830
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: color purple was through crustaceans, like basically crushing crustaceans and

831
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 1: their shells and it would be molded into the color purple.

832
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: And we'll get Jack to fact check that it's a fact.

833
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: Is that true?

834
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: That is a fact?

835
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: Who told you that?

836
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: I was? I was somewhere one day and someone told

837
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: it to me.

838
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm also like irrelevant to that fact that may or

839
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: may not be true. I'm also a big fan of

840
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 2: the panoramic glass roof. It is sick and I like

841
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: sometimes I like just laying back in my seat when

842
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: I pull up at the house, scrolling on my phone

843
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: and it was nice to just lay back and it's

844
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: like a it's like a mobile skylight when the stars

845
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: are out and about if you're out, you know, outside

846
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: of the city, maybe going country driving.

847
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: Well, I was actually thinking there if something happened to

848
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: me Trisha and I got divorced, it'd be a great

849
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: place to propose to your loved one again under the.

850
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 2: Like thought you're gonna say, I'm mobile scalet or to sleep. Well,

851
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: it's a good place for you to sleep because you

852
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 2: often sleep on the couch.

853
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I must say with that, there was the massage.

854
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: I think the massage seats would be incredibly comfortable.

855
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: Tell me that. All right, let's get back to the podcast.

856
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 2: A husy can I asked you as well last year

857
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: while we're on finals last year the GF. Was that

858
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: so you won the GF in twenty twenty and then

859
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: was that your first ever Grand Final loss last year?

860
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

861
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,320
Speaker 2: What what'd you take out of that? Because I imagine

862
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 2: it was pretty heartbreaking thing to experience.

863
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was tough losing that, you know, getting so

864
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 3: far and end up losing. And you know, we we

865
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 3: were confident we had the team to do something special,

866
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 3: but just got you know, being by you know, a

867
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: great team. And yeah, probably just the learnings is probably

868
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: just I think just the way we play. We probably

869
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 3: played into their hands. A little bit. You know, we

870
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: probably try to play their style of footy against them

871
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 3: who were the best at doing it. You know, they

872
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: you're not going to beat them at their own game.

873
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: And I felt like we sort of fell into that

874
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: trap a little bit and went away from, you know,

875
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: the stuff we wanted to do, and ultimately they just

876
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 3: they just grinded us into the ground. And yeah, like

877
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 3: I said, we try to try to grind them back,

878
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 3: but you can't do it to the team that's best

879
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: at doing it. So that was probably a little lesson.

880
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: I don't worry about, you know, don't get sucked into

881
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: how they played. Try try to play the way we

882
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 3: want to play. And I guess that's something we've learned

883
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: and hopefully we can take into the finals. It doesn't

884
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: matter how the other team plays. Let's focus more on ourselves.

885
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Tricky week for you, Jerome. I was feeling for you. Firstly,

886
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: at the start of the week, you win the Dallym,

887
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: so this enormous high and like one of the best

888
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: moments of your career you'll look back on. But then

889
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: the next day you've got to get up and you've

890
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: got to do breakfast radio, breakfast TV and everything. While

891
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: you're still trying to prepare for the Grand Final. That

892
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: must have been at times a little difficult.

893
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty tough, and I kind of feel

894
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 3: like I probably didn't handle it very well, Like I

895
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 3: probably went into the not an excuse, but probably went

896
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: into the game a little bit drained from what happened

897
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: during the week, just and that's my own fault. That

898
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: was just the way I handled it. I feel like, I,

899
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: you know, I try to go to the Dalli Ms

900
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 3: with no expectations. I didn't want to think about it,

901
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: like overthink it too much. But the time I got it,

902
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 3: when I was up there and ended up getting the

903
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 3: the DLIM, I was you know, obviously it was a

904
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: lot to take in and I was really, you know,

905
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: pretty proud that I won it. It's a pretty tough

906
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 3: tough medal to win. And you know a lot of

907
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: great players out there that you know, have won it,

908
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: and a lot of great players in our game they

909
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: could have won it that year. So and then I

910
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: feel like I just didn't handle the rest of it

911
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: that well, Like, you know, it kind of drained me

912
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: that that night. I couldn't sleep. Obviously, it was a

913
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: a lot adrenaline going on and then had to be

914
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: up early the next morning and do a few different

915
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: radios and do a few different interviews. And I think

916
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: subconsciously that just drained me. That it was still a

917
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: while away from the game. So I can't make that

918
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 3: an excuse, but I think that just just took a

919
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 3: little bit out of me, especially earlier in that week.

920
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's perfectly normal and that

921
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: that's one of the advantages you know, you guys have

922
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: in Melbourne. I'm not saying for a moment, yeah, Anonymous, like,

923
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: you guys have built a good profile there, but a

924
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: lot of other cities, like like, if you look at

925
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: another team, let's say, for instance, the Bulldogs, if they

926
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: make the Grand Final this year, that week leading into

927
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: the Grand Final, every single everywhere they go, they'll be

928
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: bombarded with people ask them things. You know, they'll be

929
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: mile of media commitments and they've got to get through that.

930
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: Where to an extent, you blokes have to deal with

931
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: that well, not as much you know, in an AFL city.

932
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good, it's I love it. I love it

933
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: during finals and big games and sort of all year around.

934
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 3: We don't probably don't cop it as much as everyone

935
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: in Sydney and Queensland, and you know, we probably don't

936
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: realize it until we actually go up there and play

937
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: up there and then see how much you know. Rugby

938
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 3: leagues and the media and the public. Everyone has eyes

939
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 3: on you. Everyone's to talk to you in the public,

940
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 3: which is fine, but we're probably a little bit hidden

941
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: away from all that sort of stuff down here, which is,

942
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: you know, personally a good reason for me.

943
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: You just just spark my memory that you'll probably remember

944
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: this as we well remember in twenty twenty before the

945
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: COVID Grand Final and given the amount of eyes that

946
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 2: were on the NL that year because everyone was just

947
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: looking for live sport Dale Fanukan got up in front

948
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: of the group and gave shared some of his experiences

949
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: on Grand Final week about how you can feel drained people.

950
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: His big message from it was it's the time to

951
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: be selfish. It's the only time you've got to be selfish,

952
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: because people hit you up for tickets, people want videos

953
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: for their kid, you know, they want shit signed. And

954
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: he was like, you know I do that up to

955
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: maybe the Wednesday or Thursday, but three days onwards from

956
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: a game, my phone goes off no one can really

957
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: get in contact. If they want to get in contact,

958
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: they go through my partner because come Grand Final day,

959
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: you've just had seven days of like zero just one

960
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: hundred miles an hour.

961
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was something a few of the boys bring

962
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: up when we reviewed the Grand Final, probably just the

963
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: ones that haven't played in the Grand Final before, just

964
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 3: talking about the whole week and they're probably didn't treat

965
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 3: it as a normal week. You know, they had family

966
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: fly in to watch the game and probably hung out

967
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 3: with their family more than they would you know, doing

968
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, even like on Captain's Run doing

969
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: Captains Run and then probably going somewhere and seeing their family,

970
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 3: which in a normal away game they probably wouldn't do.

971
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 3: So I think that's a, you know, a good point

972
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: what Dale brought up. Just trying to be as selfish

973
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 3: as you can because there's going to be a lot

974
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: of stuff going on which there's some commitments you have

975
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: to do and then some you just need to prepare

976
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 3: yourself for a for a footy game.

977
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: I guess back on your delim for a sec because

978
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: I remember the night that you got it and watching

979
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: watching your speech it and it was something that was

980
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: so well deserved, but it seemed like and you're not

981
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: about that likes attention that much, you kind of prefer

982
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: to deflect onto the other boys. Was that kind of daunting?

983
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: Like getting that accolade?

984
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: It was. I was absolutely shooting myself up there, like

985
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 3: I I didn't actually prepare anything, like I didn't There

986
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: was no speech that I had prepared, like because I

987
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: actually sort of just didn't think I would win it,

988
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: like I know, there was a lot of talk about

989
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: it and all that, but I just didn't, like I said,

990
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 3: I don't want to go with any expectations, and yeah,

991
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: when I wanted, I just I just tried to thank

992
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 3: as many people that helped me get to that position

993
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: as I could. And that was probably my main thing,

994
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: like like, yeah, it wasn't a really it's not a

995
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: without sounding too bad, it's not an award that I,

996
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 3: you know, want to win or that's a goal of mine.

997
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 3: That's you know, odd way rather obviously win a premiership

998
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: or you know, team success is probably the main success

999
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: that I'm chasing. But yeah, when I got up there,

1000
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: I just wanted to think, you know, all the boys

1001
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: obviously the boys and the coaching stuff and a lot

1002
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: of my Yeah, so something okay, but yeah, just yeah,

1003
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 3: it was pretty daunting up there. And you know, I

1004
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 3: don't really like talking in front of big crowds like that,

1005
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: especially after something so emotional, and I didn't really I

1006
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: don't want to stuff up. I didn't want to miss

1007
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: anyone out that, you know, really helped me get to

1008
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: where I was. So it was pretty daunting. But yeah,

1009
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 3: hopefully I didn't stuff anything upward wasn't The speech wasn't

1010
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 3: as bad as yeah, I thought it was going to be.

1011
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: Talk about talk about daunting. Have you ever heard of

1012
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: a bloke called Youan McGrady? Jerone?

1013
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: Nah?

1014
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Okay, one minute here Ewan McGrady. Right in the late

1015
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: eighties going into the nineties, people used to talk about,

1016
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, the Winfield couple the NRL. They'd say, mate,

1017
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: the best player in the world isn't even playing NRL.

1018
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: He's playing for the mare Rey Boomerangs, right, and everyone say, yeah, yeah, bullshit,

1019
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: playing in the bush. Yeah sure, sure, sure. Anyway, the

1020
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Bulldogs managed to coax him to to the club in

1021
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: one and he was like twenty nine. This was his

1022
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: first year. Anyway, he won the Delian Medal. It turned

1023
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: out he was the best. But yeah, but because mate,

1024
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: he was like a really shy indigenous fellow for mau

1025
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: Re that when he found out he was going to

1026
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: they tipped him off he's going to win the award.

1027
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: He shit himself because he was so shy and didn't

1028
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: even turn up. So they got the awards. So where

1029
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: is he? They had to send out police to go

1030
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: and find him. Then they had to then they went, oh, mate,

1031
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: he's got to wear a suit, and they got this

1032
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: disgusting ice blue suit to put on and just managed

1033
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: to get him to the presentation. But yeah, so the

1034
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: way you handled it, I shouldn't have just rocked up.

1035
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: That would have been good. Just a question, mate. I

1036
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: think you are a great example for young sports people

1037
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: and people in every facet of life about mate. You're

1038
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: an intelligent guy, but intelligence and perseverance is very very

1039
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: hard to beat. How many clubs did you play out

1040
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: before Melbourne, Shusy.

1041
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: I was at two. I was at Gold Coast Titans,

1042
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: where I played. I've only played the one game there,

1043
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: one first grade game and my debut there, and then

1044
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: I went up to the Cowboys for a year and played.

1045
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: I also played one game there as well before going

1046
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: to Melbourne.

1047
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: Why husey, why why why didn't that work out?

1048
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think looking back in my Titans days, to

1049
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 3: be fair, I probably thought talent was gonna take me

1050
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: all the way. Like you know, I was. I was

1051
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 3: a pretty talented footballer playing in under twenties. We were

1052
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: we weren't a great side, but I felt like I

1053
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: was going pretty good. And John Cartwright was the head

1054
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 3: coach at the time and gave me my debut. Were

1055
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: eighteen years old, so I was just thinking, like, how

1056
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: good is this? Like I'm playing NRL, I'm only eighting,

1057
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: fresh out of school, a year out of school, and

1058
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 3: you know the year after that, I sort of just yeah,

1059
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: I just got too complacent and it was it was

1060
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: a really good lesson for myself to learn at the time.

1061
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 3: Like I feel like if I didn't go through that,

1062
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know where I would be. Probably,

1063
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: you know, I definite would have played as many in

1064
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: our games. I wouldn't ended up at the Storm. And yeah,

1065
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 3: once they you know, they kicked me to the curb,

1066
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: which is you know, everyone's saying, oh why would they

1067
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: get rid of you know me? But I wasn't in

1068
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 3: the right, you know, space, I wasn't grown up then.

1069
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: I was still a young you know, still acting like

1070
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: a young kid. And you know, once I got punted

1071
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 3: and went up north to Townsville for a for a

1072
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: couple of years, That's where I sort of found that

1073
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 3: a bit of hard edge, but a bit of hard work.

1074
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 3: And my black Hawks coach, Christian Wolf, who's the he's

1075
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 3: a Redcliffe Dolphins coach at right now, and he he

1076
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: really he's really similar to Bells that he's you know,

1077
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: he keeps everything simple and he just he just wants

1078
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: his players to work hard. And he showed a lot

1079
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: of faith in me, and I spent a year up

1080
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: there for me, and he got me back into I guess,

1081
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 3: wanting to work hard and you're wanting to keep chasing

1082
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 3: my NRL dream. And I was there for a year

1083
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 3: and you know, played some good foot and the Cowboys

1084
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: came knocking and signed with him for a year for

1085
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 3: the year after and then was there for twenty sixteen.

1086
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: Christian Wolf. Someone told me that he used to do

1087
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: bean knuckle fighting in the old tense. Someone told me that, yeah,

1088
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: they reckon. He can really stink. I said, yeah, but

1089
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: of beaner knuckle fighting way way back in the day.

1090
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: Any truth to that is.

1091
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: Actually that sounds really familiar.

1092
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: Actually, thanks, Husy. Usually, usually mate, these asses shoot it

1093
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: down and then they call for people to fact check me.

1094
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,240
Speaker 1: But this one, Exhusy is true.

1095
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he has to say that, usy generally means

1096
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: his stories of ship.

1097
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: What you checked it?

1098
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: Did you Google check GBT?

1099
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

1100
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: I thought you were telling us to stop the podcast.

1101
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: That was random.

1102
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, that was Jack. We say to Jack usual,

1103
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 2: never come in front of the camera. I don't know

1104
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: why he just did that.

1105
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: That's that's or Dave does that a little bit. It

1106
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: tries to get it. But a time on the pod.

1107
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 2: Did you know that? Do your Dave obviously your producer

1108
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: and one six seven did he did you know prior

1109
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: to him coming on that he was the same for

1110
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: hallow Sport podcast.

1111
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he tells us every day he reckons. He's the

1112
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: he's the one that got them to where they are

1113
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: at the moment.

1114
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: Well, the funny thing is he told them I want

1115
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: to get into a bit more serious stuff and then

1116
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: joined you guys.

1117
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what he was doing there,

1118
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 3: But did you also know he was used to be

1119
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:49,879
Speaker 3: the Storm ball boy.

1120
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: I did know that their producer. It used to be

1121
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 2: the ball boy.

1122
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 3: For the Storm. That's wow.

1123
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of people who Grand Dania was.

1124
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: He was boor boy from the New South Wales origin.

1125
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: So I got at through your life.

1126
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: You know Grand Daniel and family feud.

1127
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: Now it's a deal or no deal, no deal, you

1128
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: have the show Everyone's on meth.

1129
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: But he used to do family feud though, is that?

1130
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: Oh?

1131
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but did both? Yeah, but he was get

1132
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: the photo. I've got my phone up you guys.

1133
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 3: Continue, Yes, I know the deal with no deal? Dude?

1134
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 3: Was he the boor boy for New soth else apparent when.

1135
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: When they played the game in Melbourne he was the Yeah,

1136
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: he was the boor boy.

1137
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 2: I like, I like Grand Daniel. I think he's good.

1138
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: Who's your favorite? What's your favorite game shows?

1139
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 3: Is he?

1140
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: Do you watch any of them?

1141
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 3: No? No, aren't you and Mole?

1142
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: What don't you and Mole watch like a bit of

1143
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,240
Speaker 2: reality TV?

1144
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? But she she pretty much just chucks on whatever

1145
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: she wants to. And I got to watch which Lover?

1146
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 3: We were watching Love Island for a bit, which, oh.

1147
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: No, that's don't act like that. Because I rang you

1148
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: one time and you said, he text me back. Can't talk?

1149
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 3: Life did not? Yes, you did?

1150
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 2: You said can't talk in the middle of a Love

1151
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: Island episode. Is that the UK version?

1152
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 3: That's the UK version. I'm very saucy Australian one. We

1153
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 3: like watching because it's close to home. I guess I'm

1154
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 3: an f boy Island I love. I mean, I am an.

1155
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: Dad applies every year and they keep knocking married fifty five.

1156
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm the perfect guy.

1157
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 3: You know. My favorite favorite memory of Maddie actually, do

1158
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: you remember that time you used to come down to

1159
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 3: the I was thinking about it on my way over

1160
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 3: here the parents weekend. Yeah, and then I think we

1161
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: went up the road to the Social Medba on Richmond

1162
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 3: and you grabbed the mic and you just started blasting it.

1163
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: I can't remember what song it was.

1164
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: I was encouraged by Frank Frank it was don't Look

1165
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: back in Anger, and Frank went up in said to

1166
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: the guy playing the guitar, play a bit of old

1167
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: wastes and I'll get madder. And so Frank Pernice is

1168
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: the one to blame. But geez, I tear what I thought?

1169
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 1: I was pretty good?

1170
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I was going to say that you were actually

1171
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: going so hard, like it's so serious, but it was

1172
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 3: actually it was actually good. I actually really enjoyed it.

1173
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: I remember that night as well.

1174
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: You.

1175
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I was having a chat to you. You got to commit.

1176
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: That's what It doesn't matter what you do, you don't

1177
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: have to be great, just got to commit.

1178
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 2: Well that's what your advice was to it.

1179
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: No, that's my advice is just in general, if you're

1180
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: going to do something, just commit.

1181
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: But do you remember do you remember who else? Did

1182
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 2: I remember the night you're talking about, because it was

1183
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: at Richmond Social It was James the guitarists who was

1184
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: on who used to do a lot of our sort

1185
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: of gigs. But Kevin remember Kevy Walters was there as well,

1186
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: Billy's dad and he he sung yeah yeah yeppi yeye.

1187
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: Dad finished the song and Kevy grabbed it off him

1188
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: and sung yeah yeah yep v I. Because that was

1189
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 2: the origin that I think that's the first time anybody

1190
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: you know, realized that, like a gremlin, don't give Jerome

1191
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: Hughes red wine after midnight.

1192
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wouldn't have been that night, surely it was.

1193
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: It was because Trisa said to me, she pointed and goes,

1194
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, here's that crazy guy. I swear to

1195
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: God and I said Jerome, I said, he's a great guy.

1196
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: She goes, oh, he's scary. Now she knows how those

1197
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: middle forward.

1198
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 3: Are you? Are you a.

1199
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: Pinot or Charaz guy and a pino man?

1200
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 3: Mate, nice and light Cherez is a bit too, bit

1201
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 3: too hard.

1202
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: New Zealand made best pinots in the world.

1203
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: Ye, because you don't.

1204
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: You're not drinking this year, right, You're only doing the

1205
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: red wine die.

1206
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep?

1207
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: Is that is that? Is that about you a month

1208
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: ago going on.

1209
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: A Yeah, yep, yep. There's been a few hookups, but

1210
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 3: where we're still kicking it.

1211
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: Just gets straight back on that wagon.

1212
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

1213
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: Do we give Hughsey cheesy if we've taken up too

1214
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: much of your time? Thanks for coming on, mate? Is

1215
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 2: there anything now that you're in front of a massive audience,

1216
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: is or anything you want to say?

1217
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 3: Ah? No, I've done enough talking. I think.

1218
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: Us if you if you need to, if you need

1219
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: me to return the favor of mate, I'm heading down

1220
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: to man the Sorry Melbourne and Mate, I am available.

1221
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm an open book now.

1222
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 3: We would love to get you guys on. Actually, fus

1223
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: are free anytime. We're probably gonna have to get you

1224
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: guys in studio. So if you guys come down in

1225
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 3: it on soon come through.

1226
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: My friend send that we'll send that invoice.

1227
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 3: To thank you. Thank you son, so thanks, thanks for

1228
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: having me us a good.

1229
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: Luck for the back end, back end of this season.

1230
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: Brother, Thanks bra, Thanks boys, appreciate that's gold, Brother, that's gold.

1231
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 3: Thumb's down, there's no funber and that's gold.

1232
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, right, thumb down, Chief, I thought it

1233
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: was nah thumb forward fum down Yeah really yeah, I

1234
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Perfection mate. Thank you for watching the

1235
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: footy Show, yeah Hugh.

1236
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 3: Thanks boys,