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Speaker 1: For the record. Don't try and make y'all comfortable, right.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Season eighteen of the Clink.

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Speaker 5: This has been a phenomenal season and today's guest is

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Speaker 5: you wonderful, amazing guests, thank you, and to all the listeners.

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Speaker 5: to bring you the clink each week. Now without further ado,

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit starstruck. This is huge, guys. Here's

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Speaker 5: royalty in Australia, in Australian boxing, in the world of boxing.

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Speaker 4: This man is a phenomenal man.

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Speaker 5: He stands for no bullshit and speaks his mind and

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Speaker 5: I love it. And he's a great mentor, a great dad,

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Speaker 5: and he is just someone I'm.

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Speaker 4: In awe of.

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Speaker 5: And his name is mister Danny Green and a brother.

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Speaker 5: Without pissing in your pocket, could I give you a

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Speaker 5: better intro?

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Speaker 4: Fact? Those are how much better? Mate? You need a

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Speaker 4: job as a ring announcer and I need to start

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Speaker 4: fighting again.

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Speaker 5: Ah, you do a pretty good job of that, and

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Speaker 5: I look forward to understanding a little bit more around

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Speaker 5: that as the conversation goes on, because that seems to

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Speaker 5: be where you are today is not getting boxed around

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Speaker 5: the ring. So he called a bunch of holes in

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Speaker 5: the people in the ring, But you're commentating. So it's

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Speaker 5: really really good to see you, mate, and great to

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Speaker 5: see you involved in a really passionate way still within

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Speaker 5: the sport that you truly love.

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Speaker 4: Obviously.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks him, thanks for having one. Thanks for that amazing introduction, mate.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it, mate. But yeah, it's good to be

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Speaker 6: here and I'm just happy it. Dads fifty two, healthy

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Speaker 4: Fifty two, what a fantastic age.

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Speaker 5: Myself forty nine and I can absolutely agree. I feel

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Speaker 5: that really inspires me as a dad, as a father

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Speaker 4: And massive credit to you to say my appreach. I'm

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Speaker 6: Although they've got to live their own life, they've got

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Speaker 6: And the daughter's twenty three and she's having a baby

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Speaker 4: That it is a different love.

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Speaker 4: And they're both fucking awesome in each way. And they're

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Speaker 5: As I say to my daughter, doesn't matter who you with,

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Speaker 4: Denny, you have a phenomenal story.

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Speaker 5: I know that there's obviously more to Denny Green than

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Speaker 5: implicate it into an everyday living of discipline for you.

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Speaker 5: Where did it all begin and how was it for

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Speaker 6: I'm the most disorganized, least structured person they're probably ever

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Speaker 4: Zero. I've never had any structure.

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Speaker 6: Only things that I applied myself to and was committed

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Speaker 6: So it all kind of for me was I was

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Speaker 4: We didn't know anyone. My old man wasn't a fighter.

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Speaker 6: He introduced me to boxing, which took me down the pub,

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Speaker 6: But I just gravitated towards it and then started karate

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Speaker 4: So I was a very late maturer, you know, but

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Speaker 6: he was a boxer from Burma and his four sons

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Speaker 4: And Pat was my first boxing coach.

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Speaker 6: And he could be just he was the reason that

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Speaker 4: The old man said, come over and tap.

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Speaker 6: My brother, who played football at a high level for

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Speaker 4: I joined in and that was it. I never looked back.

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Speaker 5: What a phenomenal start, you know, like I can redolate

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Speaker 5: to what you're saying around that era. And I'm sure

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Speaker 5: Is that right with your dad finding his lifelong friend.

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Speaker 6: It was late seventy nine or ninety eighty, I think

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Speaker 6: it was. And Dad was the store manager to shop

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Speaker 6: a couple weeks time. And he was walking back and

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Speaker 6: he saw these two blokes, he's two little Burmese fellas.

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Speaker 6: He just sat them about him. He just clicked. He said, hey, fellas,

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Speaker 6: come with me for a second came inside, it gave

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Speaker 6: their families have been intertwine for a very long time.

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Speaker 6: And Dad and Pat were very tight, and then Pat

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Speaker 6: and I became very tight. And that's said, I know

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Speaker 6: Pat's sons and his daughter, and they're their cousins, and

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Speaker 6: so we've had a great affiliation with the devil Ares

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Speaker 6: because he changed my life.

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Speaker 6: Then I made my way into the Australian boxing team

439
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,281
Speaker 6: and I was a state team, so I'd go to

440
00:20:59,321 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 6: fort in Melbourne a couple of times and then go

441
00:21:01,801 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 6: on the strain team and go and fight in China

442
00:21:04,241 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 6: and Philippine, in Thailand and England, all these amazing experiences

443
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 6: and then go to Almost Games and each Olympic gap games.

444
00:21:13,001 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 6: I was like, wow, this is And then just to

445
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,281
Speaker 6: get that Australian track suit. If you offered me a

446
00:21:18,321 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 6: million bucks of the Austraine track suit back, then fuck mate,

447
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:21,921
Speaker 6: give me the track suit.

448
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah track suit?

449
00:21:23,961 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 5: Yeah? How beautiful? How was that receiving those accolades? You know,

450
00:21:28,681 --> 00:21:31,561
Speaker 5: like you worked your ass off obviously, you know you

451
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 5: would have had to have you get selected like you

452
00:21:33,441 --> 00:21:37,761
Speaker 5: said in the State, National, Commonwealth, and then the pinnacle

453
00:21:37,801 --> 00:21:38,641
Speaker 5: of the Olympics.

454
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,161
Speaker 4: Like talk about taking you.

455
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,721
Speaker 5: Know, the accolades step by step and collecting along the way.

456
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 4: You truly did that.

457
00:21:47,761 --> 00:21:51,120
Speaker 5: What was it like and how was the program for you?

458
00:21:51,201 --> 00:21:54,281
Speaker 5: Adapting and being in that space and traveling the world

459
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,761
Speaker 5: at such a younger age.

460
00:21:56,681 --> 00:21:59,201
Speaker 4: I remember winning my first novice state title.

461
00:21:59,321 --> 00:22:01,761
Speaker 6: So novice state title was if you had six or

462
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 6: less fights, and I'd had three fights at that stage,

463
00:22:04,721 --> 00:22:08,481
Speaker 6: and then fourth, fifth, and sixth fights were for one weekend,

464
00:22:08,521 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 6: one next weekend, one again the next weekend the final,

465
00:22:11,761 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 6: and so I won my first you know, state title

466
00:22:13,801 --> 00:22:16,121
Speaker 6: was not a state title. I won by first round

467
00:22:16,201 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 6: knockout against a guy who everyone I thought was going

468
00:22:18,801 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 6: to beat me. And I was never really given much

469
00:22:22,201 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 6: hope or or I didn't have much recognition. I was

470
00:22:24,521 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 6: just this long haired, pigtailed Bogan surfer from Scarborough Beach

471
00:22:28,681 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 6: and I was wore Converse boots for the first you know,

472
00:22:31,801 --> 00:22:34,641
Speaker 6: six fights, and you know it was.

473
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 4: Did you really seriously you had to Chuck Taylor's on? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, video,

474
00:22:42,521 --> 00:22:43,681
Speaker 4: I fucking love.

475
00:22:43,561 --> 00:22:45,001
Speaker 5: That with the b Did you have the big white

476
00:22:45,041 --> 00:22:47,360
Speaker 5: sox to really high hide?

477
00:22:47,961 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: Now? No.

478
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,481
Speaker 6: I used to wear my brothers Clamont football socks because

479
00:22:52,481 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 6: I'm comperstitious. You know, I love watching.

480
00:22:57,201 --> 00:23:01,481
Speaker 5: Let's just slay this down for a second ride. You

481
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 5: got Chuck Taylor's on, fucking cool, cat like that's street cool,

482
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 5: the bros footy socks on.

483
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 4: Did you say he got my tight shorts on?

484
00:23:11,001 --> 00:23:14,041
Speaker 6: And because I was when I was doing keep boxing,

485
00:23:14,241 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 6: was with it was actually called Burmese boxing, which was

486
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 6: Burmese keep boxing. So another one of Pat's friend, Kevin Jr.

487
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,921
Speaker 6: Was was a Burmese keep boxing instructor and I had

488
00:23:23,961 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 6: and his school was called Bando B A N D A.

489
00:23:27,241 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 4: So I had Bando keep boxing shorts.

490
00:23:28,921 --> 00:23:31,481
Speaker 6: I'll show you hang on on set.

491
00:23:31,521 --> 00:23:36,761
Speaker 5: But oh yes, please that is priceless, like can you

492
00:23:37,241 --> 00:23:38,561
Speaker 5: oh well, yeah, there it is.

493
00:23:39,041 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: There is kick boxing shorts. Yeah, wow, that's the photo.

494
00:23:42,801 --> 00:23:45,881
Speaker 6: So that guy there pats my trader. He was, he's

495
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 6: my original trainer. And that guy there David Boys and

496
00:23:48,521 --> 00:23:51,041
Speaker 6: he's passed away. And I was pum me Pope back

497
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,001
Speaker 6: in the day, ripping lovely man and he unfortunate passway.

498
00:23:55,041 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 6: He used to drive the bus up he see the

499
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 6: bus driver for a lot of tournaments and a lot

500
00:23:58,721 --> 00:24:01,961
Speaker 6: of fights. So yeah, it was. It was a magic time.

501
00:24:02,041 --> 00:24:05,801
Speaker 6: So yeah, I wasn't given a great deal. That's just

502
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,441
Speaker 6: another but the thing as I was knocking everyone out,

503
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,561
Speaker 6: I've had hit him and they fucking go away, you know, bang.

504
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 4: So obviously you had plenty of power. You knew you

505
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: could swing.

506
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 5: And I want to ask you, especially as someone who's

507
00:24:17,921 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 5: you know, lived and breathed muy thai for half of

508
00:24:20,481 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 5: my life at least. I'm forty nine, and that's my

509
00:24:24,481 --> 00:24:28,121
Speaker 5: go to. I always say I'm not a boxer's asshole,

510
00:24:28,521 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 5: and I'm confident I can throw my hands, but I cannot. Well,

511
00:24:34,681 --> 00:24:36,761
Speaker 5: I've never really put the time and efort in. But

512
00:24:36,801 --> 00:24:39,081
Speaker 5: from my own point of view, I'm not a boxer.

513
00:24:39,321 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 5: I look stupid trying a box, you know.

514
00:24:42,001 --> 00:24:45,961
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe I can be broken down and rebuilt.

515
00:24:46,001 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 4: I don't know.

516
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,441
Speaker 5: But I've got bad habits, the habits that you bring

517
00:24:49,481 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 5: from muy Thai straight in the box. And it's a

518
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,880
Speaker 5: little bit different, as you know, I both know. But

519
00:24:54,441 --> 00:24:57,001
Speaker 5: can I just ask you what what was drawn? So?

520
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: For me, the eight limbs is something I just love.

521
00:24:59,801 --> 00:25:02,361
Speaker 5: I love my elbows, I love my knees. I love

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: being able to throw a good solid headkick or a

523
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 5: body a leg chop.

524
00:25:06,241 --> 00:25:08,161
Speaker 4: And I do love in closed combat.

525
00:25:08,961 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 5: I find boxing personally for me, I'm always missing something.

526
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 5: How did you find that transition going from one to

527
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,361
Speaker 5: the other end and then finding the love for boxing.

528
00:25:21,721 --> 00:25:23,961
Speaker 6: Yeah, A couple of times, you know, I'd be in

529
00:25:24,001 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 6: a clench and I'd grab a one I'd go to

530
00:25:26,281 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 6: neither bloke or i'd you know, or if you're in

531
00:25:28,441 --> 00:25:31,321
Speaker 6: closed sometimes I'd be tempted to throw a thy kick

532
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 6: because I love the thigh kick. For me, it was

533
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 6: just such a simple technique and you can cause a

534
00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 6: shibit of damage with a thigh kick. Absolutely and fairly

535
00:25:38,441 --> 00:25:40,321
Speaker 6: safe to throw as well because you can commit to it,

536
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 6: so you're kind of safe when you throw it. You

537
00:25:41,921 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 6: can swing around you unless they throw a can of

538
00:25:44,201 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 6: off it. You're pretty safe where you land. Even if

539
00:25:46,201 --> 00:25:48,641
Speaker 6: you miss or it doesn't quite connect on the shin,

540
00:25:48,721 --> 00:25:51,481
Speaker 6: you get that big that you know you feel when

541
00:25:51,481 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 6: you get a good thig kick. When you land a

542
00:25:53,201 --> 00:25:55,561
Speaker 6: good thy kick, oh fuck, it's a good feeling. It's

543
00:25:55,561 --> 00:25:57,441
Speaker 6: the best because you know you've heard them and it's

544
00:25:57,481 --> 00:25:59,881
Speaker 6: a painful shot to receive. But a couple of times

545
00:25:59,921 --> 00:26:01,801
Speaker 6: I'd go to throw a front kick with my knee

546
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 6: up and they got to come in. I'd go to

547
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,761
Speaker 6: just pull them away over the front kicks, but it

548
00:26:05,801 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 6: didn't really take long to adjust. And you know, my

549
00:26:09,761 --> 00:26:12,521
Speaker 6: true passion really lied in in boxing. I really wanted

550
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,161
Speaker 6: to be a boxer. And from those young days when

551
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 6: I used to watch Dad and have you you know

552
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 6: wol sports be watching Ali on the on the Sunday morning,

553
00:26:19,921 --> 00:26:24,241
Speaker 6: or Sugar Ray Hearns durand Leonard the goal Near watching

554
00:26:24,241 --> 00:26:26,521
Speaker 6: those blokes on Wild with the Sports on a Sunday

555
00:26:26,521 --> 00:26:28,001
Speaker 6: morning get him off fix of boxing.

556
00:26:28,521 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 4: It was always the boxing bug got me.

557
00:26:30,681 --> 00:26:32,641
Speaker 6: And once once I had that first fight, and one

558
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,841
Speaker 6: of my first fight, I remember thinking, this bloke hit

559
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,081
Speaker 6: me in the first round. This this mel lost radicict

560
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,521
Speaker 6: guy hit me in the first round. Bag fucking craped me.

561
00:26:39,561 --> 00:26:41,001
Speaker 6: A good shot, and I put the bobbly boot on.

562
00:26:41,521 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 4: I remember him sitting there and he was just unloading,

563
00:26:43,761 --> 00:26:46,161
Speaker 4: throwing bombs and I could hear his hear him going,

564
00:26:47,521 --> 00:26:49,281
Speaker 4: He's grunting as he's trying to put.

565
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,761
Speaker 6: Me away, and I remember seeing myself he's trying to

566
00:26:53,761 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 6: fucking hurt me.

567
00:26:55,721 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 4: It was kind of you know, because he's trying to me.

568
00:26:58,961 --> 00:27:02,561
Speaker 6: And then I ended up getting a regain composure and

569
00:27:02,681 --> 00:27:06,241
Speaker 6: put him away in round three. But from that moment on, mate,

570
00:27:06,281 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 6: I was I was just completely hooked.

571
00:27:09,961 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. It is a different feeling, isn't it.

572
00:27:12,921 --> 00:27:16,681
Speaker 5: Like I say, you either adapt to it and fall

573
00:27:16,721 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 5: in love with it, or it can be quite I

574
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: won't say confusing, because it can be simplified and broken.

575
00:27:23,321 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 4: Down very easily.

576
00:27:25,041 --> 00:27:28,081
Speaker 5: And I guess if you're not old and stubborn, I suppose,

577
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:30,761
Speaker 5: like me, you could probably be retorted. Hey, I could

578
00:27:30,761 --> 00:27:33,281
Speaker 5: be retaught who can't be reto it. Fuck me dead

579
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 5: like I'll make an excuses. I'm just I'm just stubborn

580
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,041
Speaker 5: and set me ways. Give me the eight limbs.

581
00:27:40,281 --> 00:27:41,321
Speaker 4: But no, I do, I do.

582
00:27:41,521 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 5: I do love the box and those I say for

583
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 5: me personally though, I just don't rape myself.

584
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 4: I mean, I definitely know how to hold my hands

585
00:27:48,441 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: up and I can make those heavy shots.

586
00:27:50,961 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: I'm a super heavyweight, so you know, it's it's one

587
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: of those things, but class definitely not.

588
00:27:56,761 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: I'm an ugly boxer.

589
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 6: That's you know, as long as you as long as

590
00:28:02,481 --> 00:28:06,281
Speaker 6: you're effective, doesn't matter what you look like. But kickboxing

591
00:28:06,481 --> 00:28:09,681
Speaker 6: is a very tough sport, mate very very tough, and

592
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,561
Speaker 6: so many different things to look out for. And I

593
00:28:13,561 --> 00:28:15,761
Speaker 6: have a great deal of respect for anyone in combat

594
00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:19,001
Speaker 6: sport where it's taekwand with anyone who puts themselves in

595
00:28:19,041 --> 00:28:21,441
Speaker 6: front of someone that potentially knocked them unconscious and they're

596
00:28:21,441 --> 00:28:23,961
Speaker 6: going to compete against him. You know, I think that's

597
00:28:24,001 --> 00:28:27,001
Speaker 6: you know, immensely brave and courageous. And I take my

598
00:28:27,001 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 6: hat off to anyone in any combat sport. And I

599
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 6: followed a lot of kickboxing back of the day. I

600
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 6: was lucky enough to me to stand the man longer

601
00:28:33,801 --> 00:28:36,721
Speaker 6: edies last year earlier this year in Melbourne, about two

602
00:28:36,721 --> 00:28:38,401
Speaker 6: and a half months ago. I was a big fan

603
00:28:38,441 --> 00:28:41,081
Speaker 6: of watched Dan the Man mate and you know then

604
00:28:41,161 --> 00:28:42,401
Speaker 6: all the guys like Gurk.

605
00:28:42,201 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: And I was Can Girk and oz Can. Yeah, I

606
00:28:45,761 --> 00:28:46,401
Speaker 4: got to watch.

607
00:28:46,321 --> 00:28:49,321
Speaker 5: Gurka and oz Can up here with Michael Zambidi's they

608
00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:52,161
Speaker 5: came and they fought up at Movie World under.

609
00:28:51,961 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: A samba's sorry, yeah, Mike Zambidis.

610
00:28:55,561 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, he fought John Wayne park Wagon Wheel the legendgend.

611
00:29:02,721 --> 00:29:05,761
Speaker 5: I had the honor of starting my career with Boonsheu

612
00:29:05,841 --> 00:29:09,801
Speaker 5: in the old gyms, back when Wayne was a lot younger.

613
00:29:09,841 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 5: And yeah, no, he is absolutely phenomenal human and I

614
00:29:14,761 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: feel very privileged to have been taught by such a

615
00:29:17,521 --> 00:29:21,321
Speaker 5: man and been a part of that journey. Was it

616
00:29:21,401 --> 00:29:24,961
Speaker 5: was good, But I do remember, sorry.

617
00:29:24,801 --> 00:29:26,641
Speaker 6: Mane, he's got to be You've got to put John

618
00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:30,481
Speaker 6: Wayne Part and whether greats in boxing and whatever, you've

619
00:29:30,481 --> 00:29:32,561
Speaker 6: got to put John Wayne part has to be up

620
00:29:32,601 --> 00:29:35,881
Speaker 6: there with in the top echelon of the greatest fighters

621
00:29:35,881 --> 00:29:36,521
Speaker 6: this COUNTRYES have.

622
00:29:36,521 --> 00:29:40,241
Speaker 5: Had, absolutely and anyone that says different is kidding themselves.

623
00:29:40,281 --> 00:29:44,281
Speaker 5: Because realistically, have you even been watching muy Thai kickboxing

624
00:29:44,361 --> 00:29:46,361
Speaker 5: or boxing in the last twenty years and not seen

625
00:29:46,441 --> 00:29:50,321
Speaker 5: him or no, his accolades like ten time world champion

626
00:29:50,721 --> 00:29:56,281
Speaker 5: across many divisions, many different types of combat sports. I mean, look,

627
00:29:56,441 --> 00:29:59,521
Speaker 5: I'm a we know and most of us serve the

628
00:29:59,561 --> 00:30:02,681
Speaker 5: generation that have been around no, you know, like everyone

629
00:30:02,761 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: looks at UFC and these cage fighting he started the

630
00:30:05,721 --> 00:30:07,361
Speaker 5: Cage five and the six ou Sclubs.

631
00:30:07,401 --> 00:30:08,721
Speaker 4: That was the CMBT, you.

632
00:30:08,641 --> 00:30:12,241
Speaker 5: Know, like he was the original go to guy of

633
00:30:12,281 --> 00:30:15,521
Speaker 5: that era, which has now obviously taken a whole new

634
00:30:16,041 --> 00:30:17,001
Speaker 5: direction and level.

635
00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:21,681
Speaker 4: But it was John Wayne Park. Yeah, he's fucking phenomenal.

636
00:30:22,801 --> 00:30:25,081
Speaker 5: When you were around in your time, was it around

637
00:30:25,161 --> 00:30:27,161
Speaker 5: with the Briggs brothers as well, or.

638
00:30:27,161 --> 00:30:29,481
Speaker 4: Were they a little bit after you they were.

639
00:30:29,601 --> 00:30:33,081
Speaker 6: I used to go watch them, Nathan and Paul used

640
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 6: to watch and watched Nathan win a title over here

641
00:30:35,241 --> 00:30:36,681
Speaker 6: in Perth a long time ago.

642
00:30:37,121 --> 00:30:38,001
Speaker 4: It was when I was.

643
00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 6: First transitioning into boxing from kid boxing. So yeah, they

644
00:30:41,441 --> 00:30:44,801
Speaker 6: were around those times, and the Rock Drs And Daniel

645
00:30:44,841 --> 00:30:47,001
Speaker 6: the Rock Dawson bit younger than me, but he was

646
00:30:47,121 --> 00:30:49,881
Speaker 6: you know, he's a blokeover here and again he's one

647
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:51,081
Speaker 6: of those legitimate guys.

648
00:30:51,481 --> 00:30:53,801
Speaker 4: You know, he's a fucking legend.

649
00:30:54,561 --> 00:30:56,601
Speaker 6: And then you got later on the you know boom

650
00:30:56,601 --> 00:30:59,841
Speaker 6: boom Ecle boom, U Jim Eckle boom, and you know

651
00:30:59,921 --> 00:31:03,001
Speaker 6: there's just this apologies for any of the lads. This

652
00:31:03,041 --> 00:31:05,761
Speaker 6: you know, I've forgotten, but there's so many great in

653
00:31:05,801 --> 00:31:07,641
Speaker 6: the sport of keep box in this country's head mate.

654
00:31:08,241 --> 00:31:10,601
Speaker 5: And also too, we can't forget the man, the King

655
00:31:10,641 --> 00:31:14,361
Speaker 5: of the Elbows, mister Nathan Corbett, like fool we I

656
00:31:14,401 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 5: don't know anybody that really matched the credentials that he

657
00:31:18,881 --> 00:31:22,641
Speaker 5: carries in reference to his combat sport and still out.

658
00:31:22,441 --> 00:31:27,321
Speaker 4: There giving his best. And I've often.

659
00:31:27,081 --> 00:31:30,401
Speaker 5: Watched his seminars and you just sit and think, fuck

660
00:31:30,481 --> 00:31:34,521
Speaker 5: that poor bloke that's standing next, because when he's directing

661
00:31:34,561 --> 00:31:38,041
Speaker 5: something or he's educating, it's like he's still in the

662
00:31:38,041 --> 00:31:40,121
Speaker 5: middle of his fucking prime, just chopping in.

663
00:31:42,001 --> 00:31:47,281
Speaker 4: It's like, holy fuck, sat I'd be requesting a fucking

664
00:31:47,281 --> 00:31:48,081
Speaker 4: motorbike helmet.

665
00:31:49,481 --> 00:31:53,641
Speaker 5: I'd be with steel shin pads and a still body.

666
00:31:55,241 --> 00:32:05,001
Speaker 5: He's uh, he's oh, dear, Well, we're getting back to

667
00:32:05,121 --> 00:32:07,281
Speaker 5: the Danny Green story, because that's who we're here chatting

668
00:32:07,361 --> 00:32:07,841
Speaker 5: to today.

669
00:32:07,881 --> 00:32:10,361
Speaker 4: But it's lovely. I mean, look what an era? What

670
00:32:10,401 --> 00:32:13,481
Speaker 4: an era? What names? What amazing athletes?

671
00:32:13,521 --> 00:32:16,881
Speaker 5: And really put us on the map here in this country,

672
00:32:17,681 --> 00:32:21,041
Speaker 5: all you men that now you know, the world looks

673
00:32:21,081 --> 00:32:25,721
Speaker 5: at us with this gleaming eye that we are quality.

674
00:32:26,081 --> 00:32:28,881
Speaker 5: You know, we do have amazing fighters in all types

675
00:32:28,921 --> 00:32:34,281
Speaker 5: of sport, combat, sport and divisions, which is fantastic. Obviously,

676
00:32:34,321 --> 00:32:36,601
Speaker 5: you know these days there's the politics behind it all.

677
00:32:36,721 --> 00:32:38,081
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't want to go down that rabbit

678
00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:40,081
Speaker 5: hole because you, of all people, would be one man

679
00:32:40,121 --> 00:32:41,681
Speaker 5: that would be able to sit here and speak for

680
00:32:41,761 --> 00:32:46,681
Speaker 5: hours and hours upon it. But do you see massive

681
00:32:46,761 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 5: changes today as opposed to you know, when you were

682
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:53,961
Speaker 5: at your prime or coming through It's difficult.

683
00:32:53,481 --> 00:32:56,881
Speaker 6: To say, Simo, there's so many there's probably more. There's

684
00:32:56,881 --> 00:32:59,041
Speaker 6: a lot more opportunity today than there was back in

685
00:32:59,081 --> 00:33:01,161
Speaker 6: the day. Back in the day, there wasn't you know,

686
00:33:01,281 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 6: there wasn't as much opportunity. Now you're at social media,

687
00:33:04,561 --> 00:33:06,801
Speaker 6: you know, in one can be turned into a commodity

688
00:33:06,881 --> 00:33:11,721
Speaker 6: and an overnight sensation literally through the putridity of social

689
00:33:11,721 --> 00:33:14,841
Speaker 6: media can be toxic and putrid, and it can make.

690
00:33:14,681 --> 00:33:16,361
Speaker 4: Superstars out of fucking bombs.

691
00:33:16,921 --> 00:33:19,481
Speaker 6: So in that way, it's kind of I don't know,

692
00:33:19,521 --> 00:33:23,841
Speaker 6: it just seems and people will the younger generation might go,

693
00:33:23,881 --> 00:33:26,321
Speaker 6: have I listened to this whole Kirk, but it just

694
00:33:26,361 --> 00:33:27,721
Speaker 6: doesn't seem as authentic as.

695
00:33:27,601 --> 00:33:29,921
Speaker 4: It was back in the day. Well it's not.

696
00:33:30,041 --> 00:33:32,721
Speaker 5: And like you said, you know, you can make superstars

697
00:33:32,721 --> 00:33:35,641
Speaker 5: out of bums because it's easy to get on there

698
00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:37,681
Speaker 5: and rattle it off and you know, talk your talk,

699
00:33:37,801 --> 00:33:41,121
Speaker 5: and you could be anywhere hiding in a fucking hole,

700
00:33:41,361 --> 00:33:43,321
Speaker 5: you know, pretending that you're in the middle of somewhere

701
00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:45,161
Speaker 5: where you're really not. And then at the end of

702
00:33:45,201 --> 00:33:48,721
Speaker 5: the day, have you the courage to put in the training?

703
00:33:48,801 --> 00:33:50,881
Speaker 5: Have you the courage to get over the ropes or

704
00:33:50,961 --> 00:33:53,121
Speaker 5: under the ropes? You know, like this is the question,

705
00:33:53,241 --> 00:33:56,841
Speaker 5: and that's where the true warrior is win, win or lesson.

706
00:33:57,441 --> 00:34:00,801
Speaker 5: As far as I'm concerned, Yes, okay, there's loss because

707
00:34:01,361 --> 00:34:05,521
Speaker 5: especially your level of competition and others at the elite level,

708
00:34:05,681 --> 00:34:09,921
Speaker 5: you don't you don't train to lose, and your lessons, well,

709
00:34:10,041 --> 00:34:11,761
Speaker 5: the lessons have gotten you to where you are.

710
00:34:11,961 --> 00:34:15,401
Speaker 4: Yes, you still learn, but in my eyes I feel.

711
00:34:15,121 --> 00:34:18,161
Speaker 5: That you know there'll be a lot more, a lot

712
00:34:18,201 --> 00:34:21,201
Speaker 5: more painful to take a loss as opposed to running

713
00:34:21,201 --> 00:34:24,001
Speaker 5: through your sort of younger years and just going okay,

714
00:34:24,041 --> 00:34:26,161
Speaker 5: well I learned from that and next time I'll do

715
00:34:26,241 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 5: better in this way and that way.

716
00:34:28,561 --> 00:34:34,281
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's hard work is the absolute essential ingredient, and

717
00:34:34,401 --> 00:34:36,921
Speaker 6: I think I think a lot of people still train hard.

718
00:34:36,921 --> 00:34:38,001
Speaker 4: They do train hard.

719
00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:40,281
Speaker 6: But you know, you see so many people online now

720
00:34:40,321 --> 00:34:44,201
Speaker 6: that are giving examples and telling people what to do.

721
00:34:44,241 --> 00:34:46,281
Speaker 6: Is what There's a couple people out there that, you know,

722
00:34:46,521 --> 00:34:50,041
Speaker 6: former profilers inform of this, and they've got this massive following.

723
00:34:50,121 --> 00:34:53,801
Speaker 6: They're critiquing what's going on, like you haven't done it yourself.

724
00:34:53,801 --> 00:34:55,561
Speaker 6: That the fucker you either tell people what to do

725
00:34:55,681 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: or how to do. Why that guy isn't any good

726
00:34:57,801 --> 00:35:01,241
Speaker 6: you do yourself. You're masquerading as someone who's done it.

727
00:35:01,321 --> 00:35:02,241
Speaker 6: You're a fucking coo.

728
00:35:02,681 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: What about the twenty one year old life coaches.

729
00:35:10,561 --> 00:35:15,081
Speaker 5: From multimillionaires twenty five that have lived their fucking best lives?

730
00:35:16,041 --> 00:35:16,641
Speaker 4: Best mate?

731
00:35:16,841 --> 00:35:21,361
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd like to killing it well down to your congratulations,

732
00:35:21,441 --> 00:35:24,721
Speaker 6: but you know it is what it is, mate. I'm

733
00:35:25,241 --> 00:35:28,361
Speaker 6: school buddy, and I love it. I believe in substance.

734
00:35:28,921 --> 00:35:32,321
Speaker 6: I believe in substance made, and today you know, there's

735
00:35:32,361 --> 00:35:35,161
Speaker 6: there's there just appears to be less substance.

736
00:35:35,681 --> 00:35:37,321
Speaker 4: So then then I'll get a surprise.

737
00:35:37,401 --> 00:35:39,561
Speaker 6: I'll go and talk to some twenty one year old

738
00:35:39,561 --> 00:35:42,561
Speaker 6: bloke and I think far that kid's got his head

739
00:35:42,561 --> 00:35:46,001
Speaker 6: screwed on. He's a champion. So you know, your faith

740
00:35:46,041 --> 00:35:48,801
Speaker 6: gets restored when you meet people. But I find the

741
00:35:48,881 --> 00:35:52,521
Speaker 6: less I look at you know, social media, and people go,

742
00:35:52,681 --> 00:35:54,761
Speaker 6: well when you get off, And I said, yeah, you're right,

743
00:35:54,841 --> 00:35:58,001
Speaker 6: it's fair, bud. You know it's my fault for having this.

744
00:35:58,161 --> 00:36:01,561
Speaker 6: You know, at times negative attitude towards it. But you know,

745
00:36:01,681 --> 00:36:04,281
Speaker 6: and I could say I use it for this or that,

746
00:36:04,321 --> 00:36:06,321
Speaker 6: and if I really needed to, I could just fuck

747
00:36:06,401 --> 00:36:06,761
Speaker 6: it off.

748
00:36:07,481 --> 00:36:08,761
Speaker 4: But yeah, I do have it.

749
00:36:08,841 --> 00:36:11,161
Speaker 6: And there are some magic things about it and some

750
00:36:11,241 --> 00:36:14,281
Speaker 6: incredibly humorous things and as long as you as long

751
00:36:14,281 --> 00:36:17,361
Speaker 6: as you know, don't take it serious and don't try

752
00:36:17,401 --> 00:36:20,201
Speaker 6: and live your life through it, and it is what is.

753
00:36:20,601 --> 00:36:23,081
Speaker 5: I often sit back and have a little bit of

754
00:36:23,121 --> 00:36:25,721
Speaker 5: a laugh at times when I see you have a

755
00:36:25,801 --> 00:36:30,361
Speaker 5: moment and you just see real after real after real

756
00:36:30,441 --> 00:36:34,921
Speaker 5: after real story, and I can't thinking to myself.

757
00:36:35,641 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: Wow, When are you okay, Denny? Are you a little

758
00:36:41,001 --> 00:36:43,241
Speaker 4: bit stoned? Is there something wrong Denny? Or are you

759
00:36:43,401 --> 00:36:45,801
Speaker 4: just happy? Is the world a good place? Denny? From you?

760
00:36:47,761 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 4: That's good.

761
00:36:53,521 --> 00:36:56,921
Speaker 6: I've got to change this to me someone who thinks

762
00:36:57,041 --> 00:36:59,241
Speaker 6: is funny, and it makes if you're look.

763
00:37:01,281 --> 00:37:04,201
Speaker 4: My kids get a laugh out of it. Oh fucking

764
00:37:04,241 --> 00:37:06,241
Speaker 4: many of us get a laugh. Don't worry about that.

765
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:08,681
Speaker 4: I actually pause and look at all that and the other.

766
00:37:09,041 --> 00:37:09,721
Speaker 4: Last week I was.

767
00:37:09,681 --> 00:37:12,601
Speaker 5: In the truck and you must had about fucking fifty

768
00:37:12,601 --> 00:37:15,361
Speaker 5: different moments because your story was just loaded to.

769
00:37:15,321 --> 00:37:17,761
Speaker 4: The fuck house, and I thought, I.

770
00:37:17,801 --> 00:37:21,001
Speaker 5: Actually feel obligated to stop and watch every fucking one

771
00:37:21,041 --> 00:37:23,801
Speaker 5: of them, just to see really where his heads hat.

772
00:37:26,881 --> 00:37:33,401
Speaker 4: I thought, he's had a real good day today. Yeah.

773
00:37:33,601 --> 00:37:35,641
Speaker 6: Then I would disappear under a rock for a month,

774
00:37:35,681 --> 00:37:37,321
Speaker 6: and then I just come out of the Larnemarck, come out,

775
00:37:37,481 --> 00:37:40,121
Speaker 6: have your shadows and cracking away again.

776
00:37:40,361 --> 00:37:43,201
Speaker 5: You're not diagnosed with any type of bipolar or anything.

777
00:37:45,321 --> 00:37:49,121
Speaker 6: I'm undiagnosed all the all the conditions, I got them all, mate.

778
00:37:49,161 --> 00:37:54,161
Speaker 5: I you are the fucking medication. I tell you, God,

779
00:37:54,201 --> 00:37:56,601
Speaker 5: I tell you do. You bring joy, You bring joy.

780
00:37:56,641 --> 00:37:58,841
Speaker 5: Brother and joy through honesty, and I love it. It's

781
00:37:58,921 --> 00:38:01,361
Speaker 5: just pure, it's organic and his nobullshit. Like you said

782
00:38:01,361 --> 00:38:03,041
Speaker 5: in the beginning, you know, you call it for what

783
00:38:03,121 --> 00:38:05,881
Speaker 5: it is. And anybody that has and jumped over to

784
00:38:05,921 --> 00:38:09,001
Speaker 5: the King's fucking Instagram page as much as he hates

785
00:38:09,081 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 5: and he fucking loves it, get over there and shove

786
00:38:11,601 --> 00:38:13,921
Speaker 5: some laugh, have a laugh, because I'll tell you now,

787
00:38:14,201 --> 00:38:14,841
Speaker 5: if you're having a.

788
00:38:14,761 --> 00:38:18,681
Speaker 4: Bad day, Danny Green will turn it around for you're

789
00:38:19,441 --> 00:38:19,881
Speaker 4: right day.

790
00:38:19,881 --> 00:38:22,001
Speaker 7: And you're gonna get me when I'm when I can

791
00:38:22,041 --> 00:38:24,521
Speaker 7: be bothered, and a lot of times I'll just go

792
00:38:24,561 --> 00:38:26,521
Speaker 7: off it like I just forget and don't do anything,

793
00:38:26,521 --> 00:38:28,201
Speaker 7: and then I go back to it and go, yeah,

794
00:38:28,241 --> 00:38:30,681
Speaker 7: I'll be go that, yeah, sweet problem.

795
00:38:30,401 --> 00:38:33,001
Speaker 4: I'm not very committed to it, and that isn't a

796
00:38:33,001 --> 00:38:37,081
Speaker 4: what that means. But hey, listen, when.

797
00:38:36,961 --> 00:38:39,201
Speaker 5: You put a fucking fifty posts on your story, bro,

798
00:38:39,281 --> 00:38:40,041
Speaker 5: that's fucking to.

799
00:38:42,321 --> 00:38:44,761
Speaker 4: That's fucking well.

800
00:38:44,801 --> 00:38:47,361
Speaker 5: I was going to throw that in next, but that's committed.

801
00:38:47,361 --> 00:38:49,681
Speaker 5: Whichever way you look at it, you're fucking getting the

802
00:38:49,761 --> 00:38:53,561
Speaker 5: job done at night.

803
00:38:54,481 --> 00:38:59,801
Speaker 6: So I lost my ninety going to post that. Yeah,

804
00:38:59,841 --> 00:39:02,561
Speaker 6: I agree with that. Fucking everyone's gonna gill everyone. All

805
00:39:02,681 --> 00:39:04,641
Speaker 6: ten people that are following him not looking at it.

806
00:39:05,081 --> 00:39:07,081
Speaker 6: There's another one, Yeah, that's going up. I just get

807
00:39:07,081 --> 00:39:08,801
Speaker 6: a kick out of it. And then and my daughter

808
00:39:09,001 --> 00:39:12,481
Speaker 6: sometimes because her notifications come on, she must keep a

809
00:39:12,521 --> 00:39:14,561
Speaker 6: phone on because I only have my phone lives on side,

810
00:39:14,881 --> 00:39:16,641
Speaker 6: and she text.

811
00:39:16,521 --> 00:39:20,041
Speaker 4: Mehit daddy, you okay, So it's fucking going on. What

812
00:39:20,081 --> 00:39:20,601
Speaker 4: are you doing that?

813
00:39:21,481 --> 00:39:25,121
Speaker 6: And my daughter keeps me in check. She is fucking funny.

814
00:39:25,641 --> 00:39:27,681
Speaker 6: All our kids are funny. But I find my kids

815
00:39:27,961 --> 00:39:30,281
Speaker 6: we're on the same wavelength humor ways, so we get

816
00:39:30,321 --> 00:39:32,561
Speaker 6: each other. And my daughter's humor is different to my

817
00:39:32,601 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 6: son's humor as well. They're both different in the humors.

818
00:39:35,001 --> 00:39:38,001
Speaker 6: But my daughter is literally spat straight out of my

819
00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:42,881
Speaker 6: mouth and she's full bogan and says it how it is.

820
00:39:43,081 --> 00:39:45,121
Speaker 6: And we've got a very similar sense of humor, so

821
00:39:45,161 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 6: does my son. It's fucking great.

822
00:39:48,641 --> 00:39:49,401
Speaker 4: I love that, man.

823
00:39:49,481 --> 00:39:51,401
Speaker 5: I try to instill that in my kids as well,

824
00:39:51,441 --> 00:39:53,481
Speaker 5: you know, like I love them to be their own people.

825
00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:56,401
Speaker 4: But you do see traits of yourself when.

826
00:39:56,241 --> 00:39:57,841
Speaker 5: You do sit down and have you one on ones

827
00:39:57,841 --> 00:40:00,041
Speaker 5: with them, or you know, they do come into you

828
00:40:01,041 --> 00:40:03,561
Speaker 5: try to pull apart the reasonings behind some of the

829
00:40:03,601 --> 00:40:07,561
Speaker 5: ship we do. I want to go back a little

830
00:40:07,561 --> 00:40:11,801
Speaker 5: bit here and just for those listening, and I'm looking

831
00:40:11,881 --> 00:40:14,881
Speaker 5: for some inspiration here for anybody out there that wants

832
00:40:14,921 --> 00:40:19,081
Speaker 5: to chase a dream. And you know you fulfilled some

833
00:40:19,201 --> 00:40:21,921
Speaker 5: amazing accolades, but I want to go back to your

834
00:40:21,921 --> 00:40:27,561
Speaker 5: Commonwealth Games year of progressing into chasing that dream of

835
00:40:27,601 --> 00:40:31,121
Speaker 5: an Olympian. Can you talk us through that and you

836
00:40:31,161 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: know what you put into that and how it.

837
00:40:33,561 --> 00:40:35,561
Speaker 4: Was for you and the highs and the lows of it.

838
00:40:36,081 --> 00:40:38,201
Speaker 6: I went to this strange Titles in nineteen ninety six

839
00:40:38,281 --> 00:40:41,121
Speaker 6: my first Nationals and got a silver medal there and

840
00:40:41,161 --> 00:40:43,321
Speaker 6: I remember my ford fell in the first fight.

841
00:40:43,521 --> 00:40:44,081
Speaker 4: He broke my.

842
00:40:44,081 --> 00:40:47,681
Speaker 6: Nose pretty badly in the first round. I dropped him

843
00:40:47,961 --> 00:40:49,561
Speaker 6: and I thought it knocked him out. He was a

844
00:40:49,561 --> 00:40:51,881
Speaker 6: beautiful left talk bang. We both threw hooks and I

845
00:40:51,961 --> 00:40:53,841
Speaker 6: caught him and I wasn't a hard I was just

846
00:40:53,921 --> 00:40:56,281
Speaker 6: form clicked my way through and just going right on

847
00:40:56,321 --> 00:40:56,561
Speaker 6: the chin.

848
00:40:56,601 --> 00:40:58,401
Speaker 4: He's gone both down for fuck.

849
00:40:58,401 --> 00:41:01,961
Speaker 6: I knocked him out first fight, first round, way turn

850
00:41:02,001 --> 00:41:03,761
Speaker 6: around on his feet, and then he busted my nose

851
00:41:03,801 --> 00:41:06,321
Speaker 6: badly and then I had a slight. I found out

852
00:41:06,361 --> 00:41:09,081
Speaker 6: after I had a slight fracture of my jaw. That

853
00:41:09,241 --> 00:41:10,961
Speaker 6: was the night of the fight I won. I was

854
00:41:10,961 --> 00:41:12,961
Speaker 6: like I had to fight the next day at lunchtime

855
00:41:13,201 --> 00:41:15,121
Speaker 6: for the gold medal for the finals. So that was

856
00:41:15,161 --> 00:41:17,841
Speaker 6: a semi fighter on the Saturday, and then the Sunday

857
00:41:17,881 --> 00:41:21,681
Speaker 6: we fought for the national title. And I couldn't eat

858
00:41:21,721 --> 00:41:24,681
Speaker 6: because I couldn't chew because my mouth was so fucking sore.

859
00:41:24,921 --> 00:41:26,801
Speaker 6: My jaw was like, I didn't realize it was fractional.

860
00:41:26,841 --> 00:41:28,761
Speaker 6: I suspected something wrong with it. I felt I had

861
00:41:28,761 --> 00:41:32,321
Speaker 6: two shoot grew droves in the air. I couldn't chew

862
00:41:32,601 --> 00:41:35,761
Speaker 6: macas and got pancakes and coffee and just squished the

863
00:41:35,801 --> 00:41:37,881
Speaker 6: pancakes up and put the pancakes in their stuff to

864
00:41:37,881 --> 00:41:39,361
Speaker 6: be in there, let them melt for a while. Then

865
00:41:39,441 --> 00:41:41,881
Speaker 6: it was warm, just fucking just guzz with it so

866
00:41:41,921 --> 00:41:45,481
Speaker 6: I could have some carbs and sometimes we're going to

867
00:41:45,521 --> 00:41:47,561
Speaker 6: fight and then you know, yeah, it was tough and

868
00:41:47,721 --> 00:41:49,361
Speaker 6: it was a tough fight. It was a hard fighter.

869
00:41:49,401 --> 00:41:51,041
Speaker 6: I get him a good fight at I lost, and

870
00:41:51,201 --> 00:41:53,121
Speaker 6: I was in my eleventh fight. This bloken at fifty

871
00:41:53,121 --> 00:41:56,201
Speaker 6: fights and he won the national title and that was it.

872
00:41:56,201 --> 00:41:58,281
Speaker 6: It was you know, he beat me, but it was

873
00:41:58,281 --> 00:42:01,241
Speaker 6: a great experience and then I won the national title

874
00:42:01,441 --> 00:42:03,961
Speaker 6: the year later and got a warded the best boxer

875
00:42:03,961 --> 00:42:04,521
Speaker 6: of the tournament.

876
00:42:04,561 --> 00:42:06,001
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I couldn't believe it. I was

877
00:42:06,041 --> 00:42:07,601
Speaker 4: like fuck and I was just this bogan from.

878
00:42:07,521 --> 00:42:10,521
Speaker 6: Perth and one two one won both my fights and

879
00:42:10,521 --> 00:42:12,241
Speaker 6: then they gave me the best box of the tournament,

880
00:42:12,281 --> 00:42:14,921
Speaker 6: the out of TUNTL trophy. So it was a big thrill,

881
00:42:15,001 --> 00:42:16,921
Speaker 6: big achievement. And then that was when I got onto

882
00:42:16,921 --> 00:42:19,561
Speaker 6: the Australin boxing team. And then we went and fought

883
00:42:19,601 --> 00:42:22,561
Speaker 6: the Oceana Games in Papua New Guinea in nineteen ninety eight,

884
00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:25,561
Speaker 6: and then ninety ninety eight was a Coowuth Games and

885
00:42:25,601 --> 00:42:27,641
Speaker 6: then in the COMMONWS Games and we fought so this

886
00:42:27,681 --> 00:42:29,281
Speaker 6: strained team. We went away and a few torn them

887
00:42:29,361 --> 00:42:33,201
Speaker 6: before we fought in Liverpool, we fought in Samoa, we

888
00:42:33,361 --> 00:42:36,201
Speaker 6: fought in the Philippines. Had a lot of injuries and

889
00:42:36,201 --> 00:42:39,161
Speaker 6: a lot of pretty lot of broken nose, really bad

890
00:42:39,201 --> 00:42:41,161
Speaker 6: in the Philippines, and this gym would go put it

891
00:42:41,201 --> 00:42:43,721
Speaker 6: across my fucking face. He hit me the left hook

892
00:42:43,761 --> 00:42:46,601
Speaker 6: in the first round and I've gone bang and newly

893
00:42:46,641 --> 00:42:48,921
Speaker 6: went down. The referee gave me a count. But then

894
00:42:49,081 --> 00:42:51,841
Speaker 6: after I made the count the referee, I was looking

895
00:42:51,881 --> 00:42:53,401
Speaker 6: at the referee and I was kind of wiping something.

896
00:42:53,401 --> 00:42:54,881
Speaker 6: I had something in my eyes gone fuck on this,

897
00:42:55,001 --> 00:42:57,241
Speaker 6: you know, turned out because it was my nose. My

898
00:42:57,321 --> 00:42:59,561
Speaker 6: nose was so bad over there. I just know it

899
00:42:59,641 --> 00:43:01,881
Speaker 6: was big and cuss. I wasn't really thinking straight and

900
00:43:01,921 --> 00:43:03,401
Speaker 6: I was trying to wipe my fucking nose out of

901
00:43:03,441 --> 00:43:05,041
Speaker 6: my out of my eye because it was so bad.

902
00:43:05,041 --> 00:43:07,321
Speaker 4: And he broke. I hadn't started bleeding it.

903
00:43:07,361 --> 00:43:08,881
Speaker 6: And then the German guy come in and he went

904
00:43:08,921 --> 00:43:10,201
Speaker 6: paying him at the good shot, and then it.

905
00:43:10,241 --> 00:43:12,241
Speaker 4: Just started gushing out of blood. The referee called the

906
00:43:12,241 --> 00:43:15,281
Speaker 4: fight off. Had to go and get it rebroken in

907
00:43:15,401 --> 00:43:17,601
Speaker 4: hospital that night. And we're in a third world.

908
00:43:17,841 --> 00:43:20,121
Speaker 6: We're up a little island called the Coward, which was

909
00:43:20,321 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 6: a little island North Philippines, and the government were trying

910
00:43:24,041 --> 00:43:25,921
Speaker 6: to drive tourist into this place. So it was a

911
00:43:25,921 --> 00:43:29,801
Speaker 6: little island, pretty tough, little fucking island. And the hospital was,

912
00:43:30,281 --> 00:43:32,561
Speaker 6: you know, was very very tough. I was sitting in

913
00:43:32,601 --> 00:43:35,801
Speaker 6: the office. They had no beds, and sitting in office,

914
00:43:35,801 --> 00:43:38,561
Speaker 6: still have a boxing gear on, and the doctor came

915
00:43:38,601 --> 00:43:40,641
Speaker 6: in and he literally stamped my nose back into place.

916
00:43:40,681 --> 00:43:42,561
Speaker 6: I won't go into it. It was a pretty horror story.

917
00:43:42,961 --> 00:43:45,161
Speaker 6: Sixteens in and out of the nose. It was just

918
00:43:45,401 --> 00:43:46,121
Speaker 6: fucking full on.

919
00:43:46,481 --> 00:43:49,641
Speaker 4: The turned out that this guy the doctor. So he

920
00:43:49,721 --> 00:43:51,041
Speaker 4: got me in a chair and he.

921
00:43:51,001 --> 00:43:54,161
Speaker 6: Put two needles up there, two neils up there. Ten

922
00:43:54,241 --> 00:43:56,201
Speaker 6: he was in there, two he was in there. The

923
00:43:56,241 --> 00:43:58,801
Speaker 6: needle felt like it was about that thick, and that

924
00:43:58,961 --> 00:44:00,601
Speaker 6: was the asthetic. And then he set me down the

925
00:44:00,681 --> 00:44:02,721
Speaker 6: chair and he started going to work on the nose

926
00:44:02,761 --> 00:44:04,361
Speaker 6: and started trying to crack it back at a place

927
00:44:04,401 --> 00:44:07,321
Speaker 6: and I had the manute, the then team manager was

928
00:44:07,321 --> 00:44:10,161
Speaker 6: holding by holding my shoulders down chair. The doctor had

929
00:44:10,201 --> 00:44:12,881
Speaker 6: his leg up in between my legs from the chair

930
00:44:13,481 --> 00:44:14,321
Speaker 6: and doing this one.

931
00:44:14,401 --> 00:44:16,321
Speaker 4: I really trying to wrench you. I said, dog fuck,

932
00:44:16,401 --> 00:44:18,961
Speaker 4: I can fill up. My brain's moving around. Its killing me.

933
00:44:19,521 --> 00:44:21,681
Speaker 6: And there was about five minutes after the needles thack

934
00:44:22,521 --> 00:44:25,641
Speaker 6: six two more, two more, two more, two more. Because

935
00:44:25,961 --> 00:44:27,801
Speaker 6: I found out this part of your face is kind

936
00:44:27,841 --> 00:44:30,681
Speaker 6: of difficult to anthetize for a long time because you

937
00:44:30,721 --> 00:44:32,801
Speaker 6: have so many nerve endings, so it's pretty sensitive.

938
00:44:32,921 --> 00:44:35,361
Speaker 4: Right and clicked it in a gear, then got the

939
00:44:35,361 --> 00:44:36,201
Speaker 4: four steps.

940
00:44:35,921 --> 00:44:40,401
Speaker 6: In jem and then jammed gorees up both nostrils and

941
00:44:40,401 --> 00:44:43,281
Speaker 6: I was like this, wanting to sneeze. My whole head's congested.

942
00:44:43,521 --> 00:44:45,321
Speaker 6: He said, don't sneeze or cough if you can for

943
00:44:45,321 --> 00:44:47,561
Speaker 6: two more days. And went, oh, okay, cool, no worries

944
00:44:47,841 --> 00:44:50,841
Speaker 6: much impossible. He then flew back to Manila where his

945
00:44:50,921 --> 00:44:53,001
Speaker 6: office was, and we were flying back to go home

946
00:44:53,041 --> 00:44:55,401
Speaker 6: to Australia through Manila and he said, come and see me.

947
00:44:55,441 --> 00:44:57,001
Speaker 4: I want to take this out and just check it.

948
00:44:57,001 --> 00:44:57,761
Speaker 4: And it was all okay.

949
00:44:58,441 --> 00:45:01,001
Speaker 6: And when I got to the hospital to his practice

950
00:45:01,001 --> 00:45:04,401
Speaker 6: in Manila, going to his room and it's just full

951
00:45:04,441 --> 00:45:07,441
Speaker 6: of acco and these big wooden benches, and it was

952
00:45:07,521 --> 00:45:09,161
Speaker 6: like fuck. This guy was one of the top E

953
00:45:09,281 --> 00:45:11,841
Speaker 6: and T surgeons in the Hole of Philippines, which the

954
00:45:11,881 --> 00:45:15,281
Speaker 6: government sent him up there to because they're trying to

955
00:45:15,321 --> 00:45:17,761
Speaker 6: promote tourism. They wanted the best experience for the fighters

956
00:45:17,761 --> 00:45:18,801
Speaker 6: and the other countries are there.

957
00:45:19,001 --> 00:45:21,041
Speaker 4: They sent these expert up there. And then he goes.

958
00:45:21,081 --> 00:45:23,481
Speaker 6: He pulled the four SIPs out and just bled everywhere

959
00:45:23,481 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 6: and he sprayed a couple of times. Told me exactly

960
00:45:25,001 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 6: what's going to happen, and then I could breathe again

961
00:45:26,961 --> 00:45:29,761
Speaker 6: on my nose was literally fixed from this guy in

962
00:45:29,841 --> 00:45:31,721
Speaker 6: Philippines to suspect it was a bit of.

963
00:45:31,681 --> 00:45:34,081
Speaker 4: A bit of a witch doctor. Turns out he was.

964
00:45:34,121 --> 00:45:37,041
Speaker 6: Then it got broken, you know, a lot more times

965
00:45:37,041 --> 00:45:38,521
Speaker 6: after that, but yeah, he did a great job.

966
00:45:39,121 --> 00:45:40,401
Speaker 4: And then Conmwall's Games.

967
00:45:40,641 --> 00:45:43,601
Speaker 6: The first minute of the first round of my first fight,

968
00:45:43,921 --> 00:45:45,681
Speaker 6: I hit a guy with a left talk and I

969
00:45:45,721 --> 00:45:46,761
Speaker 6: broke my metataskle.

970
00:45:46,801 --> 00:45:48,521
Speaker 4: There they made bone on my finger there.

971
00:45:49,041 --> 00:45:51,881
Speaker 6: Finished the fight, won the fight, but couldn't continue because

972
00:45:51,961 --> 00:45:53,201
Speaker 6: my hand was pretty badly injured.

973
00:45:53,241 --> 00:45:55,281
Speaker 4: So that was my Cornwall's Games competition over.

974
00:45:56,201 --> 00:45:59,521
Speaker 6: Went back home and got it right and then sparring

975
00:45:59,561 --> 00:46:01,401
Speaker 6: again and then hit the guy with a little pop

976
00:46:01,441 --> 00:46:04,321
Speaker 6: on the elbow just in training, broke it again, throw

977
00:46:04,361 --> 00:46:06,321
Speaker 6: afar out. I'll give it one more chance, and I

978
00:46:06,361 --> 00:46:08,721
Speaker 6: went away over to Canada Ford in Canada and hit

979
00:46:08,721 --> 00:46:12,321
Speaker 6: this bloke, an irishman with a beautiful left hook again

980
00:46:12,481 --> 00:46:15,081
Speaker 6: the first round, in the first minute of the fucking fight.

981
00:46:15,121 --> 00:46:16,721
Speaker 6: I ended up knocking him out in the third round,

982
00:46:16,921 --> 00:46:19,001
Speaker 6: but bust in my hand again. So then I came home,

983
00:46:19,441 --> 00:46:21,961
Speaker 6: had surgery had two inch play, took some bon if

984
00:46:21,961 --> 00:46:24,841
Speaker 6: a hit replaced it in there two inch plates and the screws.

985
00:46:24,841 --> 00:46:27,281
Speaker 6: You can kind of see where the plate is still.

986
00:46:27,761 --> 00:46:29,681
Speaker 6: And then that was it. I got back on the

987
00:46:29,721 --> 00:46:32,201
Speaker 6: austrain team and then way up to the Olympic Games

988
00:46:32,201 --> 00:46:36,401
Speaker 6: in two thousand, won the tournament and select did what

989
00:46:36,441 --> 00:46:37,721
Speaker 6: I had to do if one of the fights had

990
00:46:37,761 --> 00:46:39,641
Speaker 6: to do to get selected to compete for the Austrained

991
00:46:39,641 --> 00:46:40,841
Speaker 6: team on the Olympics.

992
00:46:41,561 --> 00:46:44,201
Speaker 5: How did it actually feel for you personally though, knowing

993
00:46:44,201 --> 00:46:47,161
Speaker 5: that you had these injuries and serious injuries that that,

994
00:46:47,361 --> 00:46:50,881
Speaker 5: especially in the sport that you're in, You're coming up

995
00:46:50,921 --> 00:46:58,561
Speaker 5: against you know, well trained, highly graded fighters that obviously

996
00:46:58,601 --> 00:47:02,641
Speaker 5: not as injury affected as yourself. At that stage, you're

997
00:47:02,681 --> 00:47:05,081
Speaker 5: knowing that each fight could be the last. As you

998
00:47:05,121 --> 00:47:07,441
Speaker 5: said yourself, you know you're going there with the first

999
00:47:07,521 --> 00:47:12,361
Speaker 5: round bang. How was that mentally for you to overcome

1000
00:47:12,441 --> 00:47:14,321
Speaker 5: and stay focused on the job at hand.

1001
00:47:15,161 --> 00:47:19,721
Speaker 6: Similar, I'm not special and I'm not doing I wasn't

1002
00:47:19,761 --> 00:47:22,241
Speaker 6: doing any in the most combat athletes and a lot

1003
00:47:22,241 --> 00:47:23,401
Speaker 6: of athletes in any sport.

1004
00:47:23,481 --> 00:47:23,641
Speaker 4: Mate.

1005
00:47:23,721 --> 00:47:26,401
Speaker 6: Yet let's say you're a high level cyclist and you've

1006
00:47:26,401 --> 00:47:29,961
Speaker 6: got a crushing injury to your knees or your ankle,

1007
00:47:30,041 --> 00:47:33,281
Speaker 6: or your hips or whatever may be. These guys athletes,

1008
00:47:34,081 --> 00:47:38,361
Speaker 6: high end athletes that succeed often have to endure a

1009
00:47:38,361 --> 00:47:42,201
Speaker 6: lot of hardship physically. So I'm not anything special, but

1010
00:47:42,321 --> 00:47:45,921
Speaker 6: my mindset was I'll do whatever is necessary to fucking

1011
00:47:46,001 --> 00:47:48,361
Speaker 6: continue to where I want to be. I'll fight with

1012
00:47:48,401 --> 00:47:50,561
Speaker 6: the matter what injury it is. I've got so many

1013
00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:54,801
Speaker 6: horror stories. But in Liverpool I got a first fighter

1014
00:47:54,881 --> 00:47:57,761
Speaker 6: knocked out the English guy. This was the English team's

1015
00:47:57,961 --> 00:48:01,801
Speaker 6: Conwalth Games selection tournament, so they had two English fighters

1016
00:48:01,841 --> 00:48:04,361
Speaker 6: per weight division, and whoever one out of that weight

1017
00:48:04,401 --> 00:48:06,881
Speaker 6: division was going to be selected for the English team.

1018
00:48:07,041 --> 00:48:09,161
Speaker 6: And so we're over there preconf Games and we're already

1019
00:48:09,201 --> 00:48:12,561
Speaker 6: being selected and I hit the I knocked this Pomme

1020
00:48:12,681 --> 00:48:14,961
Speaker 6: guy out in the first round, the favorite for the

1021
00:48:15,041 --> 00:48:15,801
Speaker 6: for the English team.

1022
00:48:15,801 --> 00:48:17,521
Speaker 4: I hit him with a beautiful right hand to put

1023
00:48:17,601 --> 00:48:17,921
Speaker 4: him way.

1024
00:48:18,401 --> 00:48:21,401
Speaker 6: Second fight and we had they had these tiny little

1025
00:48:21,401 --> 00:48:23,721
Speaker 6: gloves that were wearing they called the brand was BB

1026
00:48:24,481 --> 00:48:26,761
Speaker 6: and all these people in the tournaments were breaking their hands.

1027
00:48:26,921 --> 00:48:27,641
Speaker 4: It was really bad.

1028
00:48:28,321 --> 00:48:30,961
Speaker 6: It was like four or five guys, very good fighters

1029
00:48:31,001 --> 00:48:34,201
Speaker 6: then lost their selections for the Comic Games because they

1030
00:48:34,201 --> 00:48:36,361
Speaker 6: bust their hands because his gloves are so small. A

1031
00:48:36,361 --> 00:48:38,481
Speaker 6: lot of guys getting cut, a lot of knockouts. I

1032
00:48:38,561 --> 00:48:40,801
Speaker 6: knocked the first out second fight, I thought a kid

1033
00:48:40,841 --> 00:48:43,241
Speaker 6: from Hungary. I ended up knocking him out and cutting

1034
00:48:43,281 --> 00:48:45,841
Speaker 6: him real bad and put him away. But before that

1035
00:48:45,881 --> 00:48:47,121
Speaker 6: he hit me as a sap or. He hit me

1036
00:48:47,401 --> 00:48:49,441
Speaker 6: with a beautiful left hand and shut this eye out,

1037
00:48:49,801 --> 00:48:51,241
Speaker 6: and I've pretty much close it up.

1038
00:48:52,001 --> 00:48:52,601
Speaker 4: So that night.

1039
00:48:52,841 --> 00:48:54,801
Speaker 6: I was in the semi final the next day against

1040
00:48:54,801 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: the Ukrainian kid, and I was like, fuck, I gotta

1041
00:48:57,081 --> 00:48:59,881
Speaker 6: I gotta beat the go to pass the medical in

1042
00:48:59,881 --> 00:49:01,841
Speaker 6: the morning and they're not running because my eyes so bad.

1043
00:49:02,361 --> 00:49:04,361
Speaker 4: I didn't realize it was quite bad. It was just

1044
00:49:04,401 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 4: a bad back guy.

1045
00:49:05,761 --> 00:49:07,641
Speaker 6: So I wanted the chef at the hotel was standing

1046
00:49:07,641 --> 00:49:11,241
Speaker 6: out and got mate fighting tomorrow. I've got a steak wivestyle.

1047
00:49:11,281 --> 00:49:13,121
Speaker 6: Put a steak on your eye and it helps draw

1048
00:49:13,161 --> 00:49:14,561
Speaker 6: the blood out. Stop so much bleedding.

1049
00:49:14,641 --> 00:49:17,841
Speaker 4: I just be fucking serious. You had like I mean,

1050
00:49:18,681 --> 00:49:21,681
Speaker 4: like you said, that's that's the worstile, But is that serious?

1051
00:49:21,921 --> 00:49:24,121
Speaker 6: Well, so I've got the steak from the blog. I've

1052
00:49:24,121 --> 00:49:25,721
Speaker 6: gone into my room and I'm sharing a room with

1053
00:49:25,761 --> 00:49:27,281
Speaker 6: one of the other fighters I came, but it was

1054
00:49:27,281 --> 00:49:30,161
Speaker 6: but now it's back in nineteen ninety eight. So I

1055
00:49:30,321 --> 00:49:32,641
Speaker 6: put the steak on my eye, go to bed, had

1056
00:49:32,681 --> 00:49:34,481
Speaker 6: the airplane thing that you put over your eyes to

1057
00:49:34,641 --> 00:49:37,841
Speaker 6: your sleep that will keep him facetline back, kick back,

1058
00:49:38,161 --> 00:49:40,601
Speaker 6: get up for this and my eyes just you know,

1059
00:49:40,801 --> 00:49:41,881
Speaker 6: I forgot I had it on them.

1060
00:49:42,001 --> 00:49:45,121
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, and I'll get the toilet turned the right on.

1061
00:49:45,401 --> 00:49:48,041
Speaker 6: You're want to wait, my room mate, and then peel

1062
00:49:48,121 --> 00:49:50,601
Speaker 6: this steak off my eye, and it's just like dirty

1063
00:49:50,721 --> 00:49:55,841
Speaker 6: gluggy staff its. Scrubbed it and then literally the steak

1064
00:49:56,081 --> 00:49:58,481
Speaker 6: had been red and now it was kind of half

1065
00:49:58,561 --> 00:50:01,641
Speaker 6: great because my body heat had kind of cooked it

1066
00:50:01,681 --> 00:50:03,361
Speaker 6: but changed the composite of it.

1067
00:50:03,761 --> 00:50:05,921
Speaker 4: So I turned it over and then put the.

1068
00:50:05,881 --> 00:50:10,041
Speaker 6: Thing back on and then wake up in the morning

1069
00:50:10,041 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 6: and the same thing my eyes and then scrubb it clean.

1070
00:50:13,801 --> 00:50:14,161
Speaker 4: Go down.

1071
00:50:14,281 --> 00:50:17,121
Speaker 6: The doctors have my medical app chair, right, You're good

1072
00:50:17,161 --> 00:50:17,881
Speaker 6: to go, mate.

1073
00:50:17,961 --> 00:50:23,441
Speaker 4: So it turns out I had a fractioned orbital. So

1074
00:50:23,481 --> 00:50:24,601
Speaker 4: I had a fractioned orbital.

1075
00:50:24,641 --> 00:50:27,841
Speaker 6: So yeah, and I thought the Ukrainian blow the next

1076
00:50:27,881 --> 00:50:29,601
Speaker 6: fight and made he was giving me a touch up.

1077
00:50:29,641 --> 00:50:31,841
Speaker 6: He was so good he was actually turned out to

1078
00:50:32,041 --> 00:50:34,241
Speaker 6: the middleweight for a Ukraine and the Olympic Games two

1079
00:50:34,281 --> 00:50:37,201
Speaker 6: years later. Very good fighter and gave me a fucking

1080
00:50:37,241 --> 00:50:39,401
Speaker 6: touch up. And I was hitting pretty good. Then I

1081
00:50:39,441 --> 00:50:42,561
Speaker 6: was clicking. I was knocked two bucks out in round three.

1082
00:50:43,001 --> 00:50:45,561
Speaker 6: I just about knocked him like I staggered him and

1083
00:50:45,681 --> 00:50:48,161
Speaker 6: had him buckled, and I missed him with a left hook.

1084
00:50:48,201 --> 00:50:49,881
Speaker 6: They just whistled past him. If that hit him, my

1085
00:50:49,881 --> 00:50:51,841
Speaker 6: record or put him away and would have gone into

1086
00:50:51,841 --> 00:50:53,881
Speaker 6: the final. Anyway, he was too good for me and

1087
00:50:53,921 --> 00:50:55,601
Speaker 6: he busted me. And then the last show he gave

1088
00:50:55,601 --> 00:50:57,841
Speaker 6: me was a real good shot here and then bang

1089
00:50:57,921 --> 00:50:59,681
Speaker 6: and then I looked at refree in my eye was

1090
00:50:59,721 --> 00:51:02,641
Speaker 6: like literally really badly shut. And so that was it.

1091
00:51:03,241 --> 00:51:06,281
Speaker 6: They caught off his TKO. He went on to win

1092
00:51:06,361 --> 00:51:08,921
Speaker 6: the tournament and that was my comwauth games. You know,

1093
00:51:09,081 --> 00:51:11,361
Speaker 6: I thought, far out, you know what's going to happen here?

1094
00:51:11,401 --> 00:51:13,441
Speaker 6: How is this going to go? And then for the

1095
00:51:13,481 --> 00:51:17,841
Speaker 6: next maybe six weeks, every time I'd cough or laugh,

1096
00:51:18,081 --> 00:51:20,841
Speaker 6: blood would rush in because the bone hadn't healed over yet,

1097
00:51:20,881 --> 00:51:23,001
Speaker 6: so blood would feel in my eye. Look, I had

1098
00:51:23,041 --> 00:51:25,721
Speaker 6: an eye from the terminator for six weeks after the fight,

1099
00:51:26,481 --> 00:51:27,801
Speaker 6: but I couldn't compete.

1100
00:51:27,841 --> 00:51:30,841
Speaker 4: I wasn't able to spa a doing it. But then

1101
00:51:30,841 --> 00:51:31,401
Speaker 4: it was okay.

1102
00:51:31,441 --> 00:51:33,681
Speaker 6: So I went to the Cornwath Games after that, and

1103
00:51:33,721 --> 00:51:36,921
Speaker 6: then you know, the Olympic Games was two years later.

1104
00:51:37,321 --> 00:51:38,681
Speaker 4: Did you did you did you.

1105
00:51:38,641 --> 00:51:41,761
Speaker 5: Meet that Ukraine fighter at the Olympic Games two years later,

1106
00:51:41,881 --> 00:51:45,321
Speaker 5: because you were saying that he was the better fighter,

1107
00:51:45,641 --> 00:51:47,881
Speaker 5: you know two years later at the Olympic.

1108
00:51:47,601 --> 00:51:51,601
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, at that stage of our careers, he

1109
00:51:51,761 --> 00:51:54,361
Speaker 6: was a better boxer. I dare say would have been

1110
00:51:54,361 --> 00:51:56,881
Speaker 6: a better boxer for the rest for eternity, because he

1111
00:51:56,921 --> 00:51:59,561
Speaker 6: was a very very skillful guy. I then moved up,

1112
00:51:59,681 --> 00:52:01,641
Speaker 6: so I was middleweight at the Commerce Games. Then I

1113
00:52:01,681 --> 00:52:03,961
Speaker 6: moved up to light headweight for the Olympic Games.

1114
00:52:04,521 --> 00:52:07,041
Speaker 4: So I was a lot heavyweight representative for Australia for

1115
00:52:07,081 --> 00:52:07,921
Speaker 4: the Libig Games.

1116
00:52:08,281 --> 00:52:10,401
Speaker 6: So I ran into I beat my first fight, won

1117
00:52:10,481 --> 00:52:12,241
Speaker 6: my first fight, and then in the second fight the

1118
00:52:12,241 --> 00:52:16,601
Speaker 6: Limber Games, I beat a Brazilian who went he fought

1119
00:52:17,281 --> 00:52:19,721
Speaker 6: I think he fought for an eliminator as a professional

1120
00:52:20,041 --> 00:52:21,641
Speaker 6: for a war. He's a pretty good fight at the

1121
00:52:21,761 --> 00:52:24,481
Speaker 6: beat in the in the my first fight at the

1122
00:52:24,521 --> 00:52:26,601
Speaker 6: BIX and then second fight, I come up against the

1123
00:52:27,161 --> 00:52:30,241
Speaker 6: then world champion and the eventual gold ballast from Russia,

1124
00:52:30,281 --> 00:52:35,521
Speaker 6: Alexander Lepsiak, who was a beast. Round two, I dropped him,

1125
00:52:36,121 --> 00:52:37,721
Speaker 6: but I busted his hand. You might be able to

1126
00:52:37,761 --> 00:52:39,841
Speaker 6: see it. So that broke to the bone.

1127
00:52:39,641 --> 00:52:42,881
Speaker 4: There, Yeah, yeah, I can yep, yep, definitely.

1128
00:52:42,921 --> 00:52:46,081
Speaker 6: So I busted that better angle there, see it there,

1129
00:52:46,641 --> 00:52:49,561
Speaker 6: So I busted two busted two bones in that hand

1130
00:52:49,561 --> 00:52:51,001
Speaker 6: there right there.

1131
00:52:51,241 --> 00:52:52,201
Speaker 4: Hit him with the right.

1132
00:52:52,001 --> 00:52:54,841
Speaker 6: Hand, hit him here, hit him flush man. Hit him

1133
00:52:54,841 --> 00:52:57,721
Speaker 6: with such a good shot, and he's just gone. So

1134
00:52:58,161 --> 00:52:59,241
Speaker 6: I just pissed him off.

1135
00:53:00,921 --> 00:53:04,521
Speaker 5: And not only that, like seeing that and now knowing

1136
00:53:05,281 --> 00:53:08,681
Speaker 5: the history of the injuries to such a lucrous career

1137
00:53:09,281 --> 00:53:14,001
Speaker 5: after these earlier stages of your life, Mate, that's phenomenal

1138
00:53:14,001 --> 00:53:17,761
Speaker 5: that you continued to continue going as far as you did.

1139
00:53:18,241 --> 00:53:20,641
Speaker 6: This one was really bad. But that's that's that's going

1140
00:53:20,681 --> 00:53:22,321
Speaker 6: to hamper me for the rest of my life. That's

1141
00:53:22,361 --> 00:53:25,281
Speaker 6: that gets through to console that was that was. This

1142
00:53:25,321 --> 00:53:27,841
Speaker 6: one here was pretty good. You can see the scar

1143
00:53:27,921 --> 00:53:29,521
Speaker 6: there and you see the plate and screws there. This

1144
00:53:29,561 --> 00:53:31,921
Speaker 6: one was good, but it just kept breaking because it

1145
00:53:31,961 --> 00:53:34,761
Speaker 6: was hitting pretty hard, so I kept popping it. But

1146
00:53:34,841 --> 00:53:38,161
Speaker 6: the surgeon who did this, I went and got a recommendation,

1147
00:53:38,241 --> 00:53:39,641
Speaker 6: he said, don't don't pin that.

1148
00:53:39,721 --> 00:53:41,161
Speaker 4: He says, I don't reckon it will do any good.

1149
00:53:41,641 --> 00:53:42,401
Speaker 4: So I didn't do it.

1150
00:53:42,561 --> 00:53:44,441
Speaker 6: I kin'd of look back on maybe I should have

1151
00:53:44,481 --> 00:53:47,361
Speaker 6: tried to, but I never know. But this this hand,

1152
00:53:47,401 --> 00:53:50,161
Speaker 6: I can't and he really had I reckon. I had

1153
00:53:50,161 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 6: half a right hand throughout my whole professional career because

1154
00:53:52,481 --> 00:53:54,241
Speaker 6: it was just always in so much pain.

1155
00:53:54,761 --> 00:53:56,001
Speaker 4: It's really really difficult.

1156
00:53:56,081 --> 00:53:58,201
Speaker 6: And but you know that's what I guess made my

1157
00:53:58,281 --> 00:53:59,921
Speaker 6: left hand so strong because I had to use this

1158
00:53:59,961 --> 00:54:00,921
Speaker 6: a lot more than I use this.

1159
00:54:01,761 --> 00:54:03,321
Speaker 4: That's where we'll leave it for this episode.

1160
00:54:03,401 --> 00:54:06,161
Speaker 5: Next time, we're diving into the professional career, the world

1161
00:54:06,241 --> 00:54:09,601
Speaker 5: title fights, the rivalries, the wins, the losses, and the

1162
00:54:09,681 --> 00:54:10,921
Speaker 5: lessons that only.

1163
00:54:10,681 --> 00:54:13,401
Speaker 4: Come from the top tier of the sport. That's next

1164
00:54:13,401 --> 00:54:16,321
Speaker 4: week on the click for.

1165
00:54:16,361 --> 00:54:19,521
Speaker 2: The record, I'm done trying to make you uncomfortable for

1166
00:54:19,681 --> 00:54:21,481
Speaker 2: the record. You ain't trying to grow downy stuff for

1167
00:54:21,521 --> 00:54:24,801
Speaker 2: your for the record, laugh on me going hard the

1168
00:54:24,801 --> 00:54:26,721
Speaker 2: way for the record.

1169
00:54:26,841 --> 00:54:28,641
Speaker 1: Ain't trying to link, No, trying to waste.

1170
00:54:29,361 --> 00:54:34,641
Speaker 3: For the record for the record for the for the

1171
00:54:34,641 --> 00:54:39,801
Speaker 3: record for the record, yea for the record for the record.

1172
00:54:51,281 --> 00:54:51,321
Speaker 4: H