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Speaker 1: The experts with Jason Lauren, your vessel specialists who specialize

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Speaker 1: in very special things.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Anya, and I'm an expert from Lifeblood.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear from the expert. Now.

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Speaker 4: You work as part of the team at Lifeblood.

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Speaker 3: Are you been there for a couple of years?

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning?

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Speaker 3: You are experts in blood.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And we want to talk about blood donation in

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Speaker 6: particular because it's a conversation we've been having a lot

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Speaker 6: in here. It seems like something so simple, something every

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Speaker 6: one of us has, something that costs zero dollars to

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Speaker 6: us but could save somebody's life. How important is blood donation.

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Speaker 2: I think it can't be understated how important blood donation is.

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Speaker 7: And when we talk.

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Speaker 2: About blood, we talk about blood, plasma, and platelets because

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Speaker 2: those are all of the components of blood and they

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Speaker 2: can all be used to treat different things. So, in fact,

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Speaker 2: now plasma has become the most needed blood product, for

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Speaker 2: plasma has outstripped the demand for whole blood.

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Speaker 6: So for people who don't understand that, I think we know.

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Speaker 6: We go into a life blood center, we donate blood.

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Speaker 6: What is the difference between taking blood or plasma plasma

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Speaker 6: out of someone's system.

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Speaker 2: So when you donate whole blood, you are giving your

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Speaker 2: red blood cells and you're also giving your plate platelets

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Speaker 2: and your plasma. But when you go in for a

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Speaker 2: plasma donation, it's a little bit longer. You're basically you

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Speaker 2: give blood, you're hooked up to a machine that really

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Speaker 2: quickly spins the plasma out of your red blood, and

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Speaker 2: then we give the red blood back to you and

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Speaker 2: then we keep the plasma.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's extraordinary, is that?

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Speaker 6: So why don't you just take it out, take the

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Speaker 6: blood donation and then get the plasma.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's just because you won't get very much plasma

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Speaker 2: out of it, whereas it when you go in for

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Speaker 2: a plasma donation, we take out the plasma depending on

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Speaker 2: your height and your weight. So some people can give

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Speaker 2: up to like eight hundred, eight hundred and fifty mL

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Speaker 2: of plasma, but you can only give about four hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy so the blood goes back in.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I dare say we need a lot of all.

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Speaker 2: Three absolutely, and you know we need thirty three thousand

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Speaker 2: donations every week to keep up with demands. So thirty

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Speaker 2: three thousand donations every single week in Australia to keep

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Speaker 2: up with demand, and that's blood, plasma and platelets. And

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Speaker 2: as I said before, the demand for plasma is increasing

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Speaker 2: year on year, so we need plasma actually more than

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Speaker 2: we need whole blood at one moment.

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Speaker 3: It's a stupid question. Can you is any work? I'm

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Speaker 3: sure it's been tried to synthesize blood or plasma.

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Speaker 7: So at the moment blood make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so blood can only come from people giving it voluntarily.

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Speaker 2: We do have research being done in labs to create

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Speaker 2: matched blood, so for someone who has very specific blood

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Speaker 2: take blood from most of the people in the world, so.

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Speaker 7: That's being used.

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Speaker 2: That's been created at the moment, but it's they can

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Speaker 2: only create a very few cells, so it's really not

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Speaker 6: We're still and yeah, can you tell me if I

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Speaker 6: go in and give blood, where does it go?

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Speaker 2: So when you go and give blood, it can go

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Speaker 2: to a variety of people. Most people don't know that

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Speaker 2: about a third of blood products go to councer patients.

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Speaker 7: I think people think that it goes to trauma victims.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but most of it goes to helping cancer patients,

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Speaker 2: but then you're also going to help mothers giving birth,

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Speaker 2: and people who have autoimmune conditions, people have blood disorders,

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Speaker 7: It just the list goes on and on.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's an important question because there is

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Speaker 4: a naivity I think amongst people where they go. I

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Speaker 4: don't know anyone's been a car accident. I'm not going

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Speaker 6: It, but you know someone who we all know someone

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately, everyone's connected to someone who has had cancer or

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Speaker 6: And the thing with blood, it doesn't discriminate, right, Like

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Speaker 6: I'm a thirty eight year old woman, but my blood

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Speaker 6: could go to a child or to an elderly parent.

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Speaker 5: Dealing with cancer.

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Speaker 6: It's like it sounds silly, but it's so versatile something

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Speaker 6: every one of us can give.

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Speaker 2: To people, absolutely, and you never know when something is

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't discriminate. So there might be children who

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Speaker 7: It's just the list goes on and on.

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Speaker 4: There's less and less guardrails now, right, I was about

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Speaker 1: Okay, So very recently, for instance, gay men, yep. Until

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Speaker 1: very recently you have been well, there's been some parameters

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Speaker 3: What's changed?

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Speaker 2: So earlier this year we changed the eligibility criteria for

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Speaker 2: as well as transgender women, anyone taking prep. So now

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Speaker 2: they can donate plasma as long as they meet the

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Speaker 2: other eligibility criteria. And we are working to change the

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Speaker 2: rule for blood and platelets as well, and we're hoping

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Speaker 2: to implement that in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: What about people with tattoos, because I think there was

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Speaker 6: a time where people give blood or they thought they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you absolutely can donate if you have tattoos,

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Speaker 2: as long as your tattoo was done in an Australian

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Speaker 2: licensed parlor. You can don't plasma straight away, and if

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Speaker 2: you'd like to donate blood or platelets, you just have

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Speaker 2: to wait a week.

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Speaker 4: What about heavy drinkers, people on medicinal marijuana, So it's.

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Speaker 2: Best okay, I'll just with alcohol, you absolutely can drink,

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Speaker 2: we recommend that you don't drink twenty four hours before

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Speaker 2: and after your donation because it tends to dehydrate you and.

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Speaker 6: We need that's almost for your own good, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: That's why I'm more getting the negme.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and with medicinal marijuana and any other substances, it's

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Speaker 2: best to call up thirteen fourteen ninety five and speak

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Speaker 2: to our medical staff.

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Speaker 3: And judgment call. They're not gonna grow your camera and kick.

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Speaker 2: Your doughter, absolutely, so we you know, our nurses are.

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Speaker 2: They have to respect your confidentiality and we don't ever

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Speaker 2: want to do anything that would jeopardize the blood system

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Speaker 2: but also your health. What are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, okay, the.

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Speaker 5: Same question question.

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Speaker 6: I was just gonna ask about age. What are the

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Speaker 6: age brackets for who can donate? Can you be too old?

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Speaker 7: You? It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: So as long as you make your first donation before

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Speaker 2: you turn seventy six, you can still donate, as long

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Speaker 2: as you're healthy and well. And I think really fun

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Speaker 2: fact is that we have seventeen hundred donors who are

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Speaker 2: in their eighties who donate with Light and our oldest

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Speaker 2: donor is in his nineties. So they're very very important

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Speaker 2: to us. And our research shows that our donors above

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Speaker 2: fifty are our most reliable, our most dependable, our most

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Speaker 7: Yes, and so they're very very important to us.

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Speaker 2: And they also talk about how it makes them feel

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Speaker 4: The arts to be honest, sort of like if there's

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Speaker 4: who's ninety and they're doing it, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I think you've in part answered what I was

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Speaker 1: going to ask you, but I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about the feeling you get from giving blood because as

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Speaker 1: as a donor, No Lauren has given blood. Also, you

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Speaker 1: walk out of that place feeling so good about yourself.

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Speaker 5: And also pretty amazing, so.

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Speaker 1: So full because you are traded to some of the

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Speaker 3: As a little reward.

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Speaker 1: Nippy's Strawberry Milk is one of my progress Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: good just just speak to us about, you know, what

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Speaker 1: you see in a lifeblood center, the people who present

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about that feeling as being sort of

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Speaker 2: you've given a little bit of your time and who knows,

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Speaker 2: you might have given someone the rest of their life.

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Speaker 2: So when I go to a donor center, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting anything for it. And I've seen, you know, personally,

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Speaker 2: emotional looking at that, because here's someone who's doing something

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Speaker 6: I think a lot of people and adults are embarrassed

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Speaker 6: that they don't know their blood type. If you don't

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Speaker 5: How do you don it?

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Speaker 7: You don't need to know your blood type before you

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Speaker 2: We will tell you and we encourage people of all

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Speaker 2: type to come in because Australia is very multicultural and

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Speaker 2: very ethnically diverse, and you might have a very unique

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Speaker 2: or uncommon blood type. And even if you don't know,

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Speaker 2: we'd love to have you because we need our blood

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Speaker 5: You guys can work it out.

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Speaker 7: It's absolutely we will, and we'll let you know.

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Speaker 3: And look, you know what, silly question, but does it hurt?

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Speaker 7: So a blood donation does not hurt.

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Speaker 2: But we understand that people have neophobias and feel afraid.

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Speaker 2: Our nurses and phlebotomus are absolute experts, being that a

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Speaker 2: knowing that you've done something good trumps any discomfort that

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Speaker 5: How long does it take in the chair, So if.

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Speaker 2: You're donating blood, you're only in the chair for about

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Speaker 2: ten minutes, so it's very queer in.

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Speaker 6: Amount, and they monitor and if anyone is listening to

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Speaker 6: my last experience was that the nurse stood there with

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Speaker 6: me because I can get a bit dizzy when I

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Speaker 6: give blood, and they monitor and not everyone gives the

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Speaker 6: same amount. They monitor how you're going, how you're feeling,

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Speaker 5: It's not like it's not a one size fits all process.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and as I said, with plasma, it really depends

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Speaker 5: You're monitored and looked after, you feel very very comfortable.

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Speaker 3: It goes on. Wait, they're probably going to look at

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Speaker 3: me like I'm a plasma gold mine.

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Speaker 5: It is an amazing thing to do.

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Speaker 6: I know, I've walked out of there before feeling actually

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Speaker 6: really good about myself, even though you don't know where

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Speaker 6: is an amazing sorry, there is an amazing thing at

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Speaker 6: the moment when you give blood. You can get a

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Speaker 7: Exactly so with our blood donors.

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Speaker 2: When it's sent off, which as you said, is within

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Speaker 2: which hospital it's gone to, so it doesn't just have

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Speaker 2: don't eat it in. Because our blood travels something like

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Speaker 5: That's really cool. That cleans we should go and give

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Speaker 5: blood and then see where it goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we should tag them.

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Speaker 6: No, you get this amazing feeling that you've done something

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Speaker 6: great for someone that's cost you nothing besides ten minutes

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Speaker 6: day or two days later when you go that I

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Speaker 6: might have just saved.

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Speaker 5: Someone's life difference, or helped a child be born.

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Speaker 6: Safely, or helped a child who was going through cancer treatment.

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Speaker 5: It's a pretty extraordinary feeling.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, thank you so much for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 4: You've debunked and myths, you've explained it in Layman's terms

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Speaker 4: for us. I actually understood everything. And thank you for

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Speaker 4: the work you guys have do all do.

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much to name.

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Speaker 3: Chase and Lauren.

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Speaker 5: Lauren wake up feeling good. Follow them on the socials

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