Speaker 1: The world isn't a scary place when I'm with my brother.
Speaker 1: When I'm with my bro it's a happy place. It's
Speaker 1: a funny place, it's a warm place. It's loving.
Speaker 2: Hi, and welcome to separate bathrooms. We would like to
Speaker 2: acknowledge the.
Speaker 3: Gadigal people of the e Or nation, the traditional custodians
Speaker 3: of this land.
Speaker 2: And pay our respects to the elders both past and present. Hello,
Speaker 2: my name's Cam Daddo. It's a different chat today. You
Speaker 2: just got me. OL's not feeling well. She's got a
Speaker 2: hall pass. He's in bed. So anyway, we'll dive into this.
Speaker 2: It's already a different version of separate bathrooms today, so
Speaker 2: let's lean into more of a a men's locker room
Speaker 2: type version.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: Got a couple of fellows who I'd pick on my
Speaker 3: team on any given Saturday. Shane Jacobson and his brother
Speaker 3: Clayton are outside. They're ready to clean up.
Speaker 2: Brothers. I've got three. I love my brothers.
Speaker 3: When friends weren't about, we leaned on each other for entertainment,
Speaker 3: got up to a lot of mischief.
Speaker 2: There was fire, sports and a little bit of streaking.
Speaker 3: Clinton closely at Eliza got a feeling that these two
Speaker 3: will be no difference for many. Shane burst under the
Speaker 3: scene as Kenny smythe and the Iconic or as the
Speaker 3: Iconic Duneyman and the hilarious feature Kenny.
Speaker 2: It's been bringing his authentic.
Speaker 3: Style of well acting everything to stage TV and hijacking
Speaker 3: every ida in the country.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Clayton was the bro behind the camera, writing, producing, editing
Speaker 2: and directing Kenny and a whole bunch more. There's a whole.
Speaker 3: Lot more to their story. What a perfect place to
Speaker 3: hear it in the bathroom. Welcome Shane and Clayton Jacobson.
Speaker 2: Hey mate, you're going very well. No strangers to the
Speaker 2: Duney you.
Speaker 5: Too, No, and this is the most crowded you've ever
Speaker 5: had it in this bathroom, isn't it.
Speaker 4: We take up quite a bit of real estate.
Speaker 3: We've never had three blokes in here. I hope it
Speaker 3: smells a little better than the ones we were introduced to.
Speaker 2: You too, and canny.
Speaker 3: Most would who came up with the line this has
Speaker 3: a smell that will stop.
Speaker 5: Religion, the last religion, that one religion, that one was
Speaker 5: my me and plays shared the lines that one was
Speaker 5: mine based on I think I can confess this. I
Speaker 5: had a guy that worked for me. He used to
Speaker 5: drive me mad, and I won't name him because I
Speaker 5: don't want him to know. He created something that went
Speaker 5: well for me, but he drove me mad when I
Speaker 5: was employing staff and h yeah, a friend of mine
Speaker 5: watched me stare at him with that thousand yard stairs.
Speaker 5: He turned up later again to a job that I
Speaker 5: needed the mat early, and when he walked off, I
Speaker 5: just kept staring at the back of his head. And
Speaker 5: the mate walked over and observed me staring at the
Speaker 5: back of this employee's head, and it's my mate Mac,
Speaker 5: and he said, you really don't like that guy, do you?
Speaker 5: And I said at the time, I said, I have
Speaker 5: a dislike for that man. That's going to outlast religion.
Speaker 5: And and my mate laughed for many, many, many minutes.
Speaker 5: And so after that close said we need something here,
Speaker 5: for something that smells on us said I've got something,
Speaker 5: because we me and Clay would race to get a
Speaker 5: line out of what would work. And I said, hang on,
Speaker 5: I've got something and that goes in. That's that's it,
Speaker 5: that's it.
Speaker 2: One of the best moments of that Fielm. I thought
Speaker 2: that was like that is genius so funny.
Speaker 3: Look take us through the early years. Where did you
Speaker 3: grow up and what was that like?
Speaker 1: Well, it was where we grew up in Avondale Heights,
Speaker 1: sort of Melbourne West, very working class area. The house
Speaker 1: that we lived in was chosen because it was the
Speaker 1: area that my father had caught the most rabbits with
Speaker 1: his brothers and we were the first, one of the
Speaker 1: first houses in that street. And so it was a
Speaker 1: very young town. You know, all the teenagers were you know,
Speaker 1: all the kids were around the same age, because that
Speaker 1: whole area populated around the same time. I haven't I've
Speaker 1: been told that the Switchers grew up in Abidel Heights
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I spoke to Rob Sitch about it just the other
Speaker 5: day because they had this they had the Sitch bus
Speaker 5: lines and and bro. We were reflecting on the fact
Speaker 5: that the old couple that worked in the fish and
Speaker 5: chip shop, we couldn't believe that they did nothing to
Speaker 5: change the fish and chip shop for all of our youth.
Speaker 5: The only thing one day they swapped the Chico roll
Speaker 5: poster and we were just thrilled there was a Yeah
Speaker 5: roll poster. And then we were having a discussion about
Speaker 5: we couldn't figure out why the couple, the old couple
Speaker 5: husband and wife that ran the fish and chip shop,
Speaker 5: never aged, and then we'd figured out that they were
Speaker 5: kept perfectly preserved under about a centimeter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: I thought it might have been the preserves and the
Speaker 2: Chico rolls as well.
Speaker 1: They were you know, my voice broke in that fish
Speaker 1: and chip shop. I was ord I said, I'll have
Speaker 1: that twenty says you know. We probably was five says
Speaker 1: a chip, two potato cakes through And he looked at
Speaker 1: me and I was starting to kept talking and my
Speaker 1: voice was completely different, and he told me that my
Speaker 1: voice had broken. So you know it's there. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't know where wisdoms.
Speaker 2: It's these little things, isn't it.
Speaker 3: We grew up in Madalaiza where Mick malloy and the
Speaker 3: James Rain and David Rain and all sorts of I
Speaker 3: think there's little clique areas where you find that something
Speaker 3: in the water, but I don't know, maybe something to that.
Speaker 1: It was a fascinating area to grow up because the
Speaker 1: ammunition factory where our parents had met was nearby as well,
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of a lot of interesting history,
Speaker 1: just on those little outskirt sort of buffers of the city,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: And our mother could see across the river from the
Speaker 5: ammunition factory, the land that her and our father eventually
Speaker 5: purchased together. She said, I used to look at that
Speaker 5: land from the window I worked at.
Speaker 2: Is that incredible? So it was just you two.
Speaker 3: You have a sister, don't you two sisters? Two sisters? Okay,
Speaker 3: all right, so Clayton, you came first.
Speaker 1: I was first. I think I was supposed to be
Speaker 1: a sister. I think based on the fact that my
Speaker 1: mother was was and probably still is a dance teacher
Speaker 1: and had hundreds of girls that she was doing. I
Speaker 1: think she was desperately wanting to have a girl. And
Speaker 1: but I didn't quite fit the bill. And I had
Speaker 1: asthma as a kid, so I wasn't good at I
Speaker 1: wasn't good at much really other than doodling, drawing and
Speaker 1: being sort of creative. And it was my Nan that
Speaker 1: kind of made me realize that, you know, don't don't
Speaker 1: go into dancing, you know, do art, because she was
Speaker 1: I do remember the one time I don't if you
Speaker 1: know this story of Shane, but I was at NaN's.
Speaker 1: I was very I was about seven, and I was
Speaker 1: looking up at her because she was she was in
Speaker 1: a higher chair, and she had I don't remember, she
Speaker 1: always had this one angry hair growing out of her
Speaker 1: chin that I couldn't take my eyes off. It scared
Speaker 1: the living hell out of me. And she had away
Speaker 1: with words and she I was sketching a tree and
Speaker 1: she led him and she said, that's that's bloody good
Speaker 1: what you're doing. That's that's good. And she said, he's
Speaker 1: bloody good. That look what he's doing. He's bloody good.
Speaker 1: That you could make a living out of that when
Speaker 1: you're older, you can make a living out and that
Speaker 1: that's bloody good. He's bloody good at that. And I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if she sees something in it, maybe you know, maybe
Speaker 1: there is a future in this.
Speaker 4: And the hair and her chin hit him straight in
Speaker 4: the eye. He's well glad.
Speaker 3: I had an aunt who had a whiskery, whiskery top
Speaker 3: lip that she insisted on kissing us on the lips.
Speaker 2: And it was no, Maggie, no, no, mom no.
Speaker 1: It is funny, funny, isn't it. How we all have
Speaker 1: people in our youth that like we had an uncle
Speaker 1: that turned out to be a minister. But I was
Speaker 1: terrified of him coming around because he was the guy
Speaker 1: that gave you the handshake where he crushes your hand.
Speaker 2: You know, were you were you guys close growing up?
Speaker 2: Were your good mates.
Speaker 5: He's nodding his head no, which is really disupport I
Speaker 5: was about to say yes, but clearly one way.
Speaker 1: Well, there was seven years difference. So when Shane was,
Speaker 1: you know, thirteen, I was twenty, and you know, and
Speaker 1: so it's sort of he was that kid that was
Speaker 1: sort of yapping at my heels all the time, and
Speaker 1: he sort of had a lot of interest in what
Speaker 1: I was doing because I was the older brother. And
Speaker 1: I think that's the sad thing about those kind of
Speaker 1: age differences is that it's a little too great to
Speaker 1: have a real connection when you're younger. And to be honest,
Speaker 1: I was I wasn't particularly good at fostering being a
Speaker 1: great brother at I remember my dad pulling me aside
Speaker 1: one day and gave me great advice, which was rare
Speaker 1: for him, but he just said, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, you know, son, that boy you know looks
Speaker 1: up to you, and he said, that's not a given.
Speaker 1: You won't have that forever. You keep behaving the way
Speaker 1: you do with him, you'll go off you. And at
Speaker 1: the time I thought that's not such a bad thing,
Speaker 1: But then I thought, I don't know I like him,
Speaker 1: and so it took a few It took a while
Speaker 1: for sort of the ages to even up. And what
Speaker 1: I love now, of course, is everyone assumes he's older
Speaker 1: than me, So I love.
Speaker 4: That, but I do.
Speaker 5: We get asked a lot who's oldest, which does my
Speaker 5: braining because obviously, when you've got an older brother and
Speaker 5: you get this can when you've got someone who's older
Speaker 5: than you were younger, when it's seven years for all
Speaker 5: of your youth, that is an eternity that's a long
Speaker 5: way away. So now when they go who's older, it
Speaker 5: kills me. But I will get the ultimate laugh because
Speaker 5: on averages, roughly this should work out. He'll die probably
Speaker 5: seven years before me, and I'll get seven years without him,
Speaker 5: So I kind of get it better because he had
Speaker 5: seven years without me when he was little and that
Speaker 5: he didn't know I was coming. But I will know
Speaker 5: what it's like to be without.
Speaker 2: Him, right, that's the perspective.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, Yeah, when you you'll have
Speaker 3: your adult perspective of going g life's great for seven
Speaker 3: years without you assed to kid?
Speaker 1: What about you can? What about what's the difference between
Speaker 1: your brothers and age?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're pretty close.
Speaker 3: Mum had five kids before she was thirty, starting at
Speaker 3: twenty two, so my sister is the oldest, and then
Speaker 3: it's me, and then Jamie and Andrew are identical twins. They
Speaker 3: came about sort of twenty months after I was born,
Speaker 3: and then Lockie was born another three years after that,
Speaker 3: so it was always me and lockey versus Andrew and
Speaker 3: Jamie in any team sort of scenario that we would,
Speaker 3: you know, whether it was on our knees, cricket in
Speaker 3: the living room or whatever we were doing.
Speaker 2: So did you I.
Speaker 3: Mean, okay, so we've established now there's seven years between
Speaker 3: you guys.
Speaker 2: Did you have I mean similar interests? Or it's quite
Speaker 2: an age spread, isn't it that? As you said it is?
Speaker 1: But I would categorically say that the thing that has
Speaker 1: fundamentally been first and foremot most in our lives for
Speaker 1: as long as I can is humor. It's like it's
Speaker 1: our uncles were all very very funny. Our dad is
Speaker 1: still the funniest man. I know, and it was you know, Shane,
Speaker 1: you know, at age four, I was being sort of
Speaker 1: carted around my Auntie's place in a purple tuxedo that
Speaker 1: my mum owned and getting miming to Danny Kaye albums,
Speaker 1: and so we were kind of performing from a young age.
Speaker 1: And then Shane kind of took that, like I sort
Speaker 1: of gravitated more to behind the scenes because so much
Speaker 1: of my childhood was spent in the wings of all
Speaker 1: of mum's theater shows. So one of my favorite places
Speaker 1: to be in the whole world is in the wings
Speaker 1: of a theater looking at the ropes, because that's what
Speaker 1: I actually stared at in a cot for many years.
Speaker 1: I was pushed to the edges of the wings and
Speaker 1: I or what I saw with these ropes going up
Speaker 1: into the heavens. So I still get a very warm
Speaker 1: feeling about that. But Shane, you know, you can talk
Speaker 1: to this. He kind of gravitated more to what was
Speaker 1: happening on stage.
Speaker 2: Why do you think that was Shane?
Speaker 5: Well, as Clay said, like a dad never saw himself
Speaker 5: as an actor or comedian when he was younger, but
Speaker 5: we all we ever saw him do was do comedy
Speaker 5: stand on stage at cricket night, entertain crowds of people.
Speaker 4: They may not have been on the other side of.
Speaker 5: A curtain or paid to get in, but we watched
Speaker 5: that entertained people all of our lives and.
Speaker 1: Usually great funerals. He was asked many, many times to
Speaker 1: give talks because he was funny.
Speaker 5: People liked him to get the greater funerals. Well, he's
Speaker 5: funny everywhere, isn't it. But he's one of the few
Speaker 5: people that can still be funny at a funeral and
Speaker 5: somehow makes it fit. And so and Dad was a drummer,
Speaker 5: and Clay was a drummer, so like and Mum taught dancers,
Speaker 5: so like I in many ways. You know, I don't
Speaker 5: know if I was planted in another family, if you
Speaker 5: rewound the clock and put me in another family, whether
Speaker 5: I'd still go to entertainment. But I was surrounded by it,
Speaker 5: and I loved it, and that's all I wanted to do.
Speaker 5: But I was desperate to get on the stage. And
Speaker 5: I did one thing where I dressed as a cowboy
Speaker 5: for mum's dancing concert and went out. And I mean,
Speaker 5: this sounds ridiculous as a routine, but I went out,
Speaker 5: pointed two guns at my head shot myself fell back.
Speaker 5: This was the whole rout scene. Fell straight on my
Speaker 5: back as you can when you're a little kid. It
Speaker 5: doesn't hurt. And I did this thing where I made
Speaker 5: my legs go up off the ground and then they
Speaker 5: dropped to the floor, you know where it looked like
Speaker 5: I was dead. And then three seconds later I brought
Speaker 5: my feet back up and they fell to the floor again,
Speaker 5: and it got to laugh. And I don't know what
Speaker 5: that is, but I want more of that. And that
Speaker 5: was and that was when I was about eight, So yeah,
Speaker 5: I think i'd like And then, you know, Clay. I
Speaker 5: wanted to do more of the acting at the start
Speaker 5: and did lots of amateur theater, and Clay knew he
Speaker 5: wanted to direct from day one. I have no memories
Speaker 5: of Clay not wanting to direct, and I just wanted
Speaker 5: to act, and you know, and then the great thing
Speaker 5: was as I got to watch him do all that,
Speaker 5: and Dad didn't say that I look up to him.
Speaker 5: Dad said that kid worships you, and it was true
Speaker 5: because he was seven years older than me and everything.
Speaker 5: He was driving cars before me and dating before me,
Speaker 5: and he could go out later than me, and then
Speaker 5: he was directing stuff and then he get me to
Speaker 5: acting stuff and I would overact terribly and he would
Speaker 5: cut the camera and say, what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 5: He kind of helped. I think I was. I think
Speaker 5: I had the theater thing sorted on stage, but it was.
Speaker 5: Thank goodness, I had Clay as a director to calm
Speaker 5: that down a lens because you and me, no came,
Speaker 5: we've done both. It's a very different thing for a lens.
Speaker 5: And yeah, so he had to calm my screen yet,
Speaker 5: but I still remember him. I did a thing called
Speaker 5: Tarzan South Here Adventure for his mate Ray, and Clay
Speaker 5: was filming for him, and I just had to I
Speaker 5: didn't even speak. I just to say, oh, I had
Speaker 5: to say Tarzan, Tarzan and move my head and I did.
Speaker 5: I was trying to act to the backseat of the
Speaker 5: palais theater. I'll never forget Clay cutting the cameras proud
Speaker 5: as punch of my brother's going to get me to acting,
Speaker 5: and he said, what the hell are you so at
Speaker 5: a young age he got to kind of reset that
Speaker 5: and kind of help my screen acting.
Speaker 3: You know, Clay, were you more like the icebreaker for
Speaker 3: for Shano in terms of getting into trouble or sort
Speaker 3: of leading you.
Speaker 2: Know, those sort of stories as we do when we're kids.
Speaker 1: Possibly, I shame would have to answer whether it had
Speaker 1: an effect, But I did get up to mischief when
Speaker 1: we just we we lived in an interesting town that
Speaker 1: like it was a long way, Like to get to
Speaker 1: the city was a forty five minute you know, tram
Speaker 1: ride and you had to walk a long way to
Speaker 1: get to that tram and even going to school was
Speaker 1: a long bike ride. And we were surrounded by the
Speaker 1: Marrabanong River. There was lots of arid land. It was
Speaker 1: a very colorful sort of area. But there was a
Speaker 1: lot of mischief you could get up to. So my
Speaker 1: mates and I, you know, we did all the classic
Speaker 1: things that kids did, you know, Like is it called
Speaker 1: nick nogging when you go to a house and you
Speaker 1: tap on the window and run off in glee and
Speaker 1: then they come out and you chase you down the
Speaker 1: street or something like that. Then there was that we
Speaker 1: had the golf course across the pipe bridge, and we
Speaker 1: used to get dressed up in our version of commando gear,
Speaker 1: which is basically just black jumpers and stuff, and rub
Speaker 1: dirt in our faces, and we would crawl across this
Speaker 1: pipe bridge with a slug gun and fire slug gun
Speaker 1: shots at the windows while they were having social club
Speaker 1: dancers and stuff. And so that was, you know, that
Speaker 1: was I don't know, Shane, youew about that, but he
Speaker 1: did know. He did know. On that particular evening, we
Speaker 1: stole a rope from the golf course that because it
Speaker 1: looks great when you're in a commando gear with a rope,
Speaker 1: like a bound up rope over you, you know, you
Speaker 1: look like the real thing. Yeah, yeah, So we had that.
Speaker 1: So I got that and brought that home and then
Speaker 1: had nothing to want to do. But Shane took a
Speaker 1: liking to it. He wanted it, and I didn't want
Speaker 1: him to have it, and he was at me and
Speaker 1: at me and at me. Can I have the rope?
Speaker 1: Or do you want the rope? And so I got
Speaker 1: so sick of him, I said, all right, you can
Speaker 1: have it. So I grabbed him and grabbed the rope
Speaker 1: and took him out the back and I tied him
Speaker 1: to the clothesline with it, and then put the sprinkler
Speaker 1: on him and said, if you can get out of that,
Speaker 1: you can have the rope. And Houdini himself couldn't get
Speaker 1: out of that, and he did the bastard and he
Speaker 1: got the rope.
Speaker 5: But the only way I get out of it was
Speaker 5: he left. You left to go back to Wayne Dixon's house,
Speaker 5: and I was there screen and our mother came out
Speaker 5: and found me tied to the clothes line with a
Speaker 5: sprinklage at my feet.
Speaker 2: Were your clothes steal on?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was fully clothed. It was just green.
Speaker 5: The funny part was, you know, you do stuff and
Speaker 5: go I'm breaking new territory. And then as we got older,
Speaker 5: Clay would tell his stories and I'd go, all right,
Speaker 5: So then you know, seven years later, I'm climbing across
Speaker 5: the same pipeline to get there. But my story and
Speaker 5: me and my mates would go there to steal golf
Speaker 5: balls and and you know, you'd run out from the
Speaker 5: trees and grab a golf ball and then you go
Speaker 5: run back into the bushes and they come down they
Speaker 5: couldn't find their ball, which we thought was funny, but
Speaker 5: we got kind of caught. Some people saw us and
Speaker 5: they called the police, and Mema mates saw this police
Speaker 5: car coming and we went, oh, there's police coming, So
Speaker 5: we ran and the police car started to chase us,
Speaker 5: and and of course they caught us because we're on foot.
Speaker 5: And then when the police finally caught up to us,
Speaker 5: and they were there looking for some people kids who
Speaker 5: were stealing golf balls, and when they got to us,
Speaker 5: I just turned around and there was about men five
Speaker 5: of my mates. I turned around went, oh, thank god,
Speaker 5: it's you. I'll thank and they went what And I went, oh,
Speaker 5: there was this. I remember I was a fan of
Speaker 5: eh Hold and I said, there was a blue eh holden.
Speaker 5: It's been chasing us. They said they're going to kill us.
Speaker 5: They said they're going to kill us. And they went
Speaker 5: on what I said, a blue ah Hold and they
Speaker 5: said they were going to kill us. That's what we're
Speaker 5: running from you. And they said which way did they go?
Speaker 5: We said right at the corner. So the police took off.
Speaker 5: So they came to grab some kids who were just
Speaker 5: stealing golf balls, and then thought they were in hot
Speaker 5: pursuit of people trying to kill children. There was no
Speaker 5: blue eh and my mates went that was genius. And
Speaker 5: I said, now we need to run because they'll figure
Speaker 5: out there's no eh in about five minutes and back
Speaker 5: across the pipeline to Evandale Heights.
Speaker 3: When we worked together doing beacons filled then was probably
Speaker 3: a decade ago. You were talking about fireworks and working
Speaker 3: with Piro. So were you both involved in that in
Speaker 3: that in that line of work.
Speaker 5: No, Clay was already making doing film clips for just
Speaker 5: about every band you can think of an Australia. He
Speaker 5: was already busy. Yeah, and so I was the Clay
Speaker 5: was you were? That'd be right because I started when
Speaker 5: I was sixteen doing the Royal Melbourne Show.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hadn't moved into fireworks because I nearly
Speaker 1: set fire to a mate's house with fireworks. I literally
Speaker 1: set the whole side of his house on fire with fireworks.
Speaker 1: We were we had ten shooters and we were chasing
Speaker 1: each other around the street, firing at one another, and
Speaker 1: he was and he was chasing me, and I thought
Speaker 1: I'd run into his house. He won't, he won't follow me.
Speaker 1: I'll hide in amongst the bushes and they were all
Speaker 1: pine trees and they're all dry, and he followed me
Speaker 1: and the whole thing went up in flames, and luckily
Speaker 1: the house didn't go down. But now I thought, I'm
Speaker 1: going to leave fireworks alone. I also had. I also
Speaker 1: tried to throw a penny banger once and put rick
Speaker 1: back went to throw it and blew up my ear,
Speaker 1: So I only had I only have sort of hearing
Speaker 1: in there. But no, it was Shane did the fireworks
Speaker 1: and I was doing more music videos.
Speaker 2: Did you hire your brother to do the fire the
Speaker 2: pyro in the video? Is that.
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 5: But Cloud, I'd like to quickly to explain the well
Speaker 5: abed I explained it for you in case you've forgotten
Speaker 5: how you explained when that up and Wayne?
Speaker 4: It was Wayne's family, wasn't that came home?
Speaker 5: This is why you told Yeah, I love let's put
Speaker 5: his name in it. Wye, you you told our family
Speaker 5: and his family. I think the kids came over and
Speaker 5: were and you were terrified. And that's when we had.
Speaker 1: One minute to come up with a story. Because we
Speaker 1: worked out that his bedroom window was open and as
Speaker 1: the trees all sort of went in golf, I could
Speaker 1: see the flames licking into his bedrooms. So when you
Speaker 1: were in trouble, his neighbor came out and saw it,
Speaker 1: and we ran around the corner to get a hose,
Speaker 1: and it was as we were fitting the hose. I said, right,
Speaker 1: they're going to want to know what happened. This is
Speaker 1: what happened. We were walking down the street. There were
Speaker 1: kids playing fireworks. They were doing it exactly what we
Speaker 1: were doing in the front of your house, and we
Speaker 1: screamed for them to get away. They ran off. We
Speaker 1: chased them, but it was too late. The house was
Speaker 1: on fire. Got it and went yeah, got it, and
Speaker 1: that was it. We got and we got away with it.
Speaker 1: But it was it was like it was it was
Speaker 1: you know, you do speed storytelling, and I think that
Speaker 1: was my first chance at pitching an idea, you know,
Speaker 1: in approximately one minute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before the lift hit the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes.
Speaker 5: The only difference was I was getting paid to do
Speaker 5: it for bands like bon Jovi and Guns and Roses.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: One of my best mates, Steve Lawton and his dear
Speaker 5: father Deares is no longer with us, who did fireworks
Speaker 5: for Sid Howard fire Weeks International. So the first big
Speaker 5: fire Weeks show that ever happened on the Sydney Harbor
Speaker 5: Bridge that made the front of Time magazine. That was
Speaker 5: all Sid and Deirs and so yeah, at the age
Speaker 5: of I started doing five Weeks. I think I was
Speaker 5: like fourteen or fifteen when I started, because they were
Speaker 5: my mates and I just head around country Victoria and elsewhere.
Speaker 5: On the weekends, I'd be doing firework shows all over well,
Speaker 5: all over the place. And yeah, I did it for
Speaker 5: i know, ten or fifteen years or something, and yeah,
Speaker 5: worked for you know. I did Die Straits, we know
Speaker 5: with their Brothers and Arms tour and when it came
Speaker 5: to Melbourne and Debbie Gibson's Electric Youth Tour that was
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six. You know, did the Melbourne stuff for that,
Speaker 5: but yeah, any big concert that had fire weeks and
Speaker 5: the rural Melbourne show and everything else, and yeah, I lived,
Speaker 5: you know, it was kind of a bit like a
Speaker 5: CARNI for a little bit. Was on weekends I would
Speaker 5: literally getting getting cars and drive around and I love
Speaker 5: that because our dad comes from Cardifolk and that made
Speaker 5: me feel like I was, you know, when I was
Speaker 5: at the Royal Melbourne Shallen working out of sheds. I
Speaker 5: loved all that. But it's not a great job and
Speaker 5: I was glad to see the back of it in
Speaker 5: the end.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, experience, isn't it. Experience gives you confidence
Speaker 3: as you move forward. So I think that's wrapped up.
Speaker 3: We've established that neither of you took responsibility for your
Speaker 3: actions as young folks. What what what? What values did you?
Speaker 3: Can you remember that your parents get taught you, your
Speaker 3: mum and your dad.
Speaker 1: Well, from my point of view, we were told a
Speaker 1: lot about the Jacobson you know ethos, and a lot
Speaker 1: of that was through storytelling more so than hey, you know,
Speaker 1: just know Jacobson doesn't this, or a Jacobson does that.
Speaker 1: It was more the storytelling of because as Shane just said,
Speaker 1: you know, our grandparents were carnefolks, so my grandfather and
Speaker 1: grandmother they owned they owned a carnival and you know, Dad,
Speaker 1: from a very young age, with his brothers, would travel
Speaker 1: around Victoria and New South Wales with his carnival. But
Speaker 1: then my grandfather died when my dad was about eight,
Speaker 1: right in front of him, and they sold up the carnival,
Speaker 1: kept the tents and they were given a block of
Speaker 1: land they could set the tent up in Marrabanong. The
Speaker 1: local women in the street allowed them to share a
Speaker 1: lot with the Clydesdale Horse. So for the first twenty
Speaker 1: three years of his life, Dad lived in a tent
Speaker 1: and so we grew up hearing lots of stories of hardship.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot of money. They worked in
Speaker 1: the abbatoires, they had multiple jobs. You know, Dad talks
Speaker 1: about all those classic great stories you hear of tough
Speaker 1: times of putting you know, newspapers in the holes of
Speaker 1: your shoes, or never had a never ever having a
Speaker 1: proper toy for Christmas at all, being made from his
Speaker 1: brothers making toys for him out of scrap, out of
Speaker 1: rubbish tips. And you know, I think my uncle, my
Speaker 1: uncle once pulled me aside. He gave me advice, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of interesting. He said, Unchael
Speaker 1: Bill said, son, never get I was a teen. He said,
Speaker 1: never get into a fight. He said, fighting as a
Speaker 1: mugs game. He said, you know, avoid it at all costs.
Speaker 1: And he said, but if you get cornered and there's
Speaker 1: nowhere else to go and you have to hit, don't
Speaker 1: hit to hurt, hit to kill. I am a foot
Speaker 1: behind the head because you're always slowed down to hit
Speaker 1: a target. And I thought that was fascinating that we
Speaker 1: went from pacifist to hardcore killer in the space of
Speaker 1: one sentence. So there was a lot of confusing and
Speaker 1: conflicting advice that we got. But I think goodwill to others,
Speaker 1: family and friendship is important. You know that they are
Speaker 1: the two main things. Dad would always say, family is everything.
Speaker 4: And your word is your words bond.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And yeah, if you say you're going to
Speaker 1: do something, live up to it. And one thing that
Speaker 1: my dad used to say, be going to lie better
Speaker 1: have a good memory, you know, So that was that
Speaker 1: was good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And going back to dad, coming from nothing, he said,
Speaker 5: you know when they were young, they were so poor
Speaker 5: growing up, they couldn't even afford to pay attention. But
Speaker 5: that word that and the other thing was that, well
Speaker 5: it's not this wasn't explained to us that your word
Speaker 5: is your bond. But the thing that I think all
Speaker 5: all Jacobson seemed to possess and the Jacobson name really
Speaker 5: meant something like if you if you were going to
Speaker 5: do anything that brought disgrace to the Jacobson name, that was, well,
Speaker 5: you just wouldn't do it. I guess is the point,
Speaker 5: wouldn't you brother? That would be it wouldn't it? Like
Speaker 5: I can't explain how they got in there they were
Speaker 5: and not and not only that, there was you know
Speaker 5: there was a reputational thing that we do as we
Speaker 5: say we're going to do, but it was yeah, be
Speaker 5: kind to others, but it was also and it does
Speaker 5: live in within all of us, is we're fine with
Speaker 5: everyone until they mistaken our kindness for weakness and that
Speaker 5: and then things change.
Speaker 1: I think there's a thing in our DNA because of
Speaker 1: the fact that they were known as the tent family.
Speaker 1: So the Jacobsons were known as the tent family, the
Speaker 1: family that live in a tent, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: they were ostracized a lot for that, and the thing
Speaker 1: that the brothers were proud of is that. And you know,
Speaker 1: the interesting thing with you know, we I think about
Speaker 1: how tough my Nan was. She was an extraordinary woman
Speaker 1: because she you know, I've got such a wonderful relationship
Speaker 1: with my dad because he has such a great feminine
Speaker 1: side to him because he was brought up from the
Speaker 1: age of eight solely by a woman. But he had
Speaker 1: these older brothers that we were you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like what Shane and I were talking about before that,
Speaker 1: you know, they are inspiring to him and he looked
Speaker 1: up to them and they placed and Nan would say
Speaker 1: things like if you if you mess and she was
Speaker 1: as rough as she she would say. Her language was
Speaker 1: pretty pretty well long. She s ate my fright out
Speaker 1: that you you know, you laid your hand on a woman,
Speaker 1: you know, in any way shaping You know, I can't
Speaker 1: do anything about you when you're awake, but you've got
Speaker 1: to go to sleep at some point, and I'll cut
Speaker 1: your bloody balls off. So she would, you know, she
Speaker 1: would instill. The biggest fear that anyone had with Nan
Speaker 1: was that she would cut them off, you know that,
Speaker 1: And so that was interesting. That sort of carried through,
Speaker 1: I think through to the brothers, and so there was
Speaker 1: this underlying thing of do the right thing, but you know,
Speaker 1: if you're going to get ostracized or you're going to
Speaker 1: be picked on, you've got to stand your ground.
Speaker 4: She had great all the Jacobson's had a great turn
Speaker 4: of phrase. And we're not talking.
Speaker 5: About rhyming slang, not not you know, a dog and
Speaker 5: bone for phone that, not that, but the turn of phrase,
Speaker 5: and my favorite one that Nan did was if she
Speaker 5: thought you were doing something that sounded like a waste,
Speaker 5: waste of time or a shit scene, not worth the effort,
Speaker 5: she'd say, oh, you may as.
Speaker 4: Well rub your asse with a bread.
Speaker 5: Now I had thousands of them, or thousands of expressions,
Speaker 5: but that just meant if you sat there rubbing your
Speaker 5: backside with the brick, that would be a complete waste
Speaker 5: of time. And so they had they did have a
Speaker 5: turn of phrase, and you could hear a million different
Speaker 5: expressions and sometimes never hear the same one twice, you know,
Speaker 5: So it was it was a whole different language that
Speaker 5: made it feel entertaining. As much as they didn't have
Speaker 5: the money, always felt like the most amazing place you
Speaker 5: could be was around a bunch of Jacobson's. You know,
Speaker 5: I was forever their audience.
Speaker 4: I was not. It's funny, you know if people say.
Speaker 5: To me, you know, you must have been the life
Speaker 5: of the party in the family, and I'm like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: no, no no. I was an audience member to the Jacobson Show.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like sitting there on Christmas Day.
Speaker 5: You know I might say one word, I mean, that'd
Speaker 5: be it. But that you're listening to my uncles and
Speaker 5: dad and other cousins talking. I mean we just sat
Speaker 5: there on the floor being entertained for hours. You know,
Speaker 5: it would just get it would go from the sun
Speaker 5: would be out and then that would get dark, and
Speaker 5: I would I wanted to be nowhere, but sitting in
Speaker 5: that land room listening to so we did just.
Speaker 1: Sit there and listen to. Like we lost a cousin recently, sadly,
Speaker 1: Kenny Jacobson. And he was a funny guy too, like
Speaker 1: I just you know, he said things like, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, people say we're a garbage family, you know,
Speaker 1: and I guess we are a bit of a garbage family.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Our dad was a garbageman, and his father was a garbageman,
Speaker 1: and his father before him was a garbageman, and then
Speaker 1: his father before him was a lawyer, and all good
Speaker 1: garbagemen come from lawyers, so you know. And Uncle Billy
Speaker 1: and I remember once I've got it on video somewhere saying,
Speaker 1: Uncle Bill, how how's been Christmas for you? Uncle? He go, well, Sonny,
Speaker 1: and he smoked. He actually smoked with one of those
Speaker 1: little pipes with stickt and he actually he died of
Speaker 1: lung cancer. And my dad said that, said Bill, the
Speaker 1: doctors have told you to keep away from the cigarettes.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm keeping away from I've just put the
Speaker 1: little stick here, he said, I've got and so.
Speaker 4: He said, the doctor told me to keep away from them.
Speaker 5: So here I am about four inches away from the
Speaker 5: bastards that should.
Speaker 3: Do very stylish though they were a little cigarette hold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had. The teacher who had one of those things,
Speaker 2: was like, that's pretty sad.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't. It was the smoke going through the
Speaker 5: tube that was killing them. I wondered what that thing was.
Speaker 5: It'd be like only shooting up heroine. It's not the
Speaker 5: length of the needle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3: I guess it's solved them from getting orange fingers and
Speaker 3: having their smell like smell like that might have been.
Speaker 3: And amazing you say you were you were witnessed to
Speaker 3: your family doing all that stuff, and then and then
Speaker 3: you bring Kenny to light. And I'm thinking that your
Speaker 3: grandfather wasn't pooing in the tent, so he probably had
Speaker 3: a portoloo outside or some other thing out there. So
Speaker 3: it just feels like it's just been this organic growth
Speaker 3: for you guys in terms of like especially we're bringing
Speaker 3: that movie because that's full of those wonderful you know,
Speaker 3: like like we talked about before that the sayings with
Speaker 3: the religion, it would it would halt religion.
Speaker 5: You know, so wouldn't the film wouldn't exist without Clay.
Speaker 5: The truth is I worked in the events industry. Clay
Speaker 5: was flat out doing film clips in excess midnight all again.
Speaker 5: Anyone you can think of an Australia, Clay was directing
Speaker 5: or editing or making film clips and doing short films
Speaker 5: and winning awards for them. And Clay's always been Clay's
Speaker 5: always observed the world and looks at stories like I
Speaker 5: get excited by a story and laugh and then I
Speaker 5: want to tell a joke afterwards, whereas Clay has always
Speaker 5: That's why when people say, Shane, will you ever go
Speaker 5: on to be a director? I go no, because I
Speaker 5: know what you know. My brother's a director. I to
Speaker 5: see how directors think, and I don't think like a director.
Speaker 5: I find stories funny and then I'll think of another
Speaker 5: funny story, whereas Clay will look at situations. And Clay
Speaker 5: does observe the world more. I'm more the guy running
Speaker 5: around like a chicken with its headcut off, and Clay's
Speaker 5: more the guy watching. He'll watch the whole what goes
Speaker 5: on at around the whole fire pit. I'm just standing
Speaker 5: at the five pit trying to listen to the joke
Speaker 5: and then going, I know one, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Whereas Clay will look at the whole function. And that's
Speaker 5: how directors think, and it is a very different function
Speaker 5: I think from actors. And I know a lot of
Speaker 5: actors go on to be directors and many do a
Speaker 5: great job of it. And I'm not saying I wouldn't
Speaker 5: be able to direct, but I know there's a difference
Speaker 5: between an actor and director. And I worked in the
Speaker 5: event industry and was telling Clay some stories about and
Speaker 5: having heard about the uncles, this is a quick story
Speaker 5: to tell these Splashdown plumbers. Splashdown was a company that
Speaker 5: were delivering toilets and I used them at events when
Speaker 5: not because I used to allso do event management. And
Speaker 5: they reminded me of my uncle's And I was telling
Speaker 5: Clay some stories about these guys that reminded me of
Speaker 5: our uncles. And it wasn't long into that that Clay said,
Speaker 5: which was.
Speaker 4: Never my point.
Speaker 5: I was commenting on someone at the fire place of life,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, at the five pin of life,
Speaker 5: and he said, what a great way to look at
Speaker 5: humanity through the eyes of Splashdown plumbers. Who have the
Speaker 5: heart and the humor of our uncles and use a
Speaker 5: sense of humor as a suit of armor.
Speaker 4: And he was the one going, what a great idea
Speaker 4: for a show.
Speaker 5: I didn't see that I was telling him a story,
Speaker 5: and he went on, I don't know that would make it.
Speaker 1: Go into it. People don't realize that like it. Shane
Speaker 1: resisted for a long while. I knew there was something,
Speaker 1: and I'd actually clean toilets to put myself through film school,
Speaker 1: so to pay for my third year film I cleaned
Speaker 1: toilets at the James Hardy factory for a year. So
Speaker 1: I would at nine o'clock at night go and polish
Speaker 1: their office floors and then sleep, get up at four
Speaker 1: in the morning, go and clean all the factory toilets,
Speaker 1: and then go to school and learn how to be
Speaker 1: a filmmaker. And it was really interesting. By day I
Speaker 1: was being taught to be the great auteur, and then
Speaker 1: at night I was called a turd and it was
Speaker 1: so and I remember that amazing feeling of not feeling
Speaker 1: like one or the other. And so when Shane he
Speaker 1: actually did this impersonation of keV, that's no longer whether
Speaker 1: he was one of the splash down guys. It was
Speaker 1: a very funny quick story. I still remember it. It
Speaker 1: was that one of it which never ended up in
Speaker 1: the film. Strangely enough, it was it was keV saying,
Speaker 1: you know when we do all the factables and you know,
Speaker 1: everyone comes in with all their trucks and everything. You know,
Speaker 1: they get every other bar diet, a meal, they'll get
Speaker 1: our feet, you know, but they never give us any
Speaker 1: bloody food.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he goes, but you know what
Speaker 1: I do. I go in with the tep where all
Speaker 1: the food is. I see all the sandwiches shacked up,
Speaker 1: and he goes, And what I do. I make sure
Speaker 1: one of the guys is watching. And I just plunged
Speaker 1: my hand right into the bottom limb sandwiches and pull
Speaker 1: them out. I just saw on it. He goes, Trust me,
Speaker 1: no other bar said wants to touch those sandwiches after that,
Speaker 1: and we get the lot. So that was that was
Speaker 1: the story that he told me, and it stayed with me.
Speaker 1: But what wouldn't It stayed with me? But what really
Speaker 1: what really resonated for me was and is that you
Speaker 1: know I had had Shane used to always come in
Speaker 1: and entertain us or at my workplace. So I was
Speaker 1: I had an advertising company and he would always come
Speaker 1: in and entertain everyone and and but there was something
Speaker 1: about this, and when I went home, I went, I
Speaker 1: didn't see Shane in that impersonation like that. There was
Speaker 1: a very it was almost like a fully formed character,
Speaker 1: and there was heart there and sadness, and I went, wow,
Speaker 1: there's something in there. So it took a while. Well.
Speaker 1: I kept bringing him up, going, come on, let's do
Speaker 1: something with it, and you go, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask, you know, Glenn the head
Speaker 1: of Splash Down. And then I think one day you
Speaker 1: rang up and said I actually managed to sit next
Speaker 1: to him at a function. I'd mentioned it and he's
Speaker 1: up for it, he wants and I went, oh great,
Speaker 1: let's go.
Speaker 3: Ho is it true that Shane stayed on as a
Speaker 3: working plumber after the shoot?
Speaker 2: Went? Is that a rumor that I heard?
Speaker 5: So that was a bit that became confusing for people.
Speaker 5: So there's two parts of this. There's two reasons why
Speaker 5: people confused. Is people saw the film and went, it's
Speaker 5: a documentary.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know Van Brian Brown ran Clay.
Speaker 5: Going, you've asked having me falled until I realized about
Speaker 5: you know, two thirds of the way, and it's a
Speaker 5: it's a freaking movie yours, and so a lot of
Speaker 5: people I still have to this very day. I get
Speaker 5: called Kenny as much as I get called Shane out
Speaker 5: of car windows, like daily, which is a wonderful thing,
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, I'm happy with either. You know,
Speaker 5: We've always said it's better to be remembered for something
Speaker 5: you've done and forgotten for everything that's right. So you know,
Speaker 5: I'll take it every day of the week. And you know,
Speaker 5: no one else is driving past, and you're a great
Speaker 5: accountant to like, it's just an amazing electrician mold like
Speaker 5: it just doesn't happen in other people's lives. So it's
Speaker 5: a privilege, you know. But but the thing is, so
Speaker 5: people will confuse number one because they thought it was
Speaker 5: a documentary, and then even if they kind of learned
Speaker 5: that's not it, the amount of people that say to me,
Speaker 5: but you were a plumper, right, I'm like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: And my answer used to be and now Tom Cruise,
Speaker 5: you're on that camp has blown this because I used
Speaker 5: to say, no, I'm not a plumber, and Tom Cruise
Speaker 5: isn't a fighter pilot. But what did confuse some people,
Speaker 5: which didn't help me at all, is when the film
Speaker 5: was finished, I'm not a plumber. As Dad used to say,
Speaker 5: you couldn't even swap a seal and a tap that.
Speaker 5: After we finished the film, I used to do event management,
Speaker 5: which is I and as I said before, I hide
Speaker 5: splash down to do the toilets at major events. And
Speaker 5: he needed a bit of restructuring and needed an event manager.
Speaker 5: And Glenn actually said, look, while Clay's in sort of
Speaker 5: post production trying to get the film ready to release,
Speaker 5: I was national general manager of a company. I couldn't
Speaker 5: give them enough of my time, and my time there
Speaker 5: was coming to its natural end. And as a lighting
Speaker 5: guy and national general manager, he said, how about you
Speaker 5: work for me. You know all my clients, you know
Speaker 5: how to do site management and event management, and you
Speaker 5: helped restructure the company. So for about a year before
Speaker 5: the film was released, and probably about four weeks to
Speaker 5: after it was.
Speaker 4: Released, and then after that my life changed. But he said,
Speaker 4: how about you work here?
Speaker 5: Because if Clay said we need to do some adr
Speaker 5: or go and shoot some pickups, or go and promote
Speaker 5: the film, Glenn could continue to pay me to live,
Speaker 5: and I'd already had a child at that point because
Speaker 5: I was indirectly working for him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we also knew, like I had already planned, and
Speaker 1: this was long before Borrett, I'd already planned that I
Speaker 1: needed to get Shane out in character doing interviews because
Speaker 1: I knew, just intrinsically knew. It's a film with no stars,
Speaker 1: it's made by two brothers, all my families, and it's
Speaker 1: shot on video. It's about Pooh. Who the hell is
Speaker 1: going to want to see this? And even our visual
Speaker 1: look I knew would probably be a turn off for women, thinking,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to watch that guy
Speaker 1: put fact, you know, plunging his hand and shit. So
Speaker 1: I wanted Shane out there as a character, showing how
Speaker 1: lovable this character was, so that the only equation that
Speaker 1: an audience would have is well, I've heard him on
Speaker 1: the radio and I've seen him on TV and he
Speaker 1: seems really funny and adorable. All I want to do
Speaker 1: now is see what he does in the movie. And
Speaker 1: that was the idea. And so when actually Glenn rang
Speaker 1: me before he offered it to Shane, he said do
Speaker 1: you think Shane had is. I've been watching how you
Speaker 1: guys acting because we don't have a foreman. I think
Speaker 1: that job should exist. You know, do you think your
Speaker 1: brother will do it? And I went, well, I hope
Speaker 1: he does, because when we come to doing the I said,
Speaker 1: he can only do it for a short period because
Speaker 1: when we get him out on the run, he'll be
Speaker 1: able to answer every question on plumbing. So he did.
Speaker 1: He knew all the terms, all the terminology. It was
Speaker 1: so funny and so it was the opposite of Danira,
Speaker 1: right because de Niro drove a taxi for months before
Speaker 1: he did Taxi Driver. We got Shane to plumb toilets
Speaker 1: after he made the movie, so it's.
Speaker 3: You know, I kind of have to wish we didn't
Speaker 3: have to wind it up, but we do. What's next
Speaker 3: for you guys?
Speaker 2: Shane? Are you still doing the show with Todd?
Speaker 4: So the film? Yeah, finish, just finished that a couple
Speaker 4: of weeks ago.
Speaker 5: So you did did eighty shows of that, yep, you
Speaker 5: know it works Camp made a week so I just
Speaker 5: finished that.
Speaker 4: I've got a film.
Speaker 5: I did a film with Rebel Wilson, which is just
Speaker 5: made the final night at Toronto Film Festival, So that's big.
Speaker 3: The TA the Toronto Film Festival is one of the
Speaker 3: major film festivals in the world, so that's great.
Speaker 2: That's no small small thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm heading I'm heading over, so I believe
Speaker 5: it or not, I'm sure she won't mind me saying.
Speaker 5: But there wasn't a budget for it, so Rebel Wilson's
Speaker 5: personally paying the paying to fly me over and booking
Speaker 5: my flights and accommodation. She said, I want you here.
Speaker 5: I want you to some myself and Tara Maurice, who
Speaker 5: people would know as the star from Strictly Ballroom, so
Speaker 5: she plays my love interest in the film, so she's
Speaker 5: her and I going over there to catch up with
Speaker 5: Rebel and go to the closing night at Toronto.
Speaker 4: So that's coming up.
Speaker 5: And to be honest, I've me and Claire working on
Speaker 5: some stuff we can't talk about now, like a TV series.
Speaker 5: We could say it's for the ABC and you know,
Speaker 5: I mean Claire and Clay's working on another thing for
Speaker 5: us at the moment which we can't talk about. There's
Speaker 5: lots of things we can't talk about. Camill have you
Speaker 5: have you announced the Clay Well, what are you're going
Speaker 5: to share it with anyone I'd wanted to.
Speaker 1: I think you can let me put it this way,
Speaker 1: you know, you do it. We get asked a lot
Speaker 1: to do Kenny sequels, and the truth is, I've never
Speaker 1: felt comfortable doing them, only because Kenny was a riff
Speaker 1: on decency and I really felt like I investigated that
Speaker 1: top to bottom, left or right up and down everything
Speaker 1: that I feel about decency. And you know, the sort
Speaker 1: of the kinder side of Jacobson is in that film,
Speaker 1: and I just there was no way of repeating it
Speaker 1: without it being a bit sort of novel.
Speaker 5: And even idea cam I've not put on the overalls.
Speaker 5: We did it once for the A five tenth anniversary.
Speaker 5: I've not pulled on the overalls in eighteen years, right,
Speaker 5: I did once in eighteen years, So back to you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but the idea of Kenny singing on stage
Speaker 1: and bringing sum of Shane's on stage talents to the
Speaker 1: world of Kenny. So what I can say is that
Speaker 1: we are working at this moment on the musical to Kenny,
Speaker 1: and that yeah, that is I'm having a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: There's titles like eighty percent water. That's a good song.
Speaker 4: Which are the toilet.
Speaker 2: I think I'm going to have to throw my hat
Speaker 2: into the ring without knowing what any.
Speaker 3: Characters are there. I have to throw my hat into
Speaker 3: the ring and say, can I come plain?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you don't throw your hat in the ring.
Speaker 4: You throw your ring.
Speaker 2: I'm throwing a ring in.
Speaker 1: Oh I like it. Can I make a note of that.
Speaker 1: That's good?
Speaker 2: We're just yes, absolutely, now, this is.
Speaker 1: Good, Shaney, this is great. I bypassed the agents and
Speaker 1: the managers, and the whole idea of doing this interview
Speaker 1: was to get cam in the music.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. My whole thing was to get
Speaker 2: you two in a shower together.
Speaker 4: We've done all this.
Speaker 2: We do we do a two minute shower. So let's
Speaker 2: clean up.
Speaker 3: So keep your answers as short and succinct as you
Speaker 3: possibly can. This is going to be a hard one
Speaker 3: for you both, I know. But if you could relive
Speaker 3: one day with each other, what.
Speaker 2: Would it be?
Speaker 4: Oh? Wow, what a question?
Speaker 1: Ah gone claim the premiere at Poo Wong. I suppose standing.
Speaker 1: I supposed standing outside, and we could hear everyone laughing inside,
Speaker 1: and I turned to Shane and I said, they're all
Speaker 1: laughing with your mate. There. I think this might work.
Speaker 1: There was a lovely moment, just you know, standing out
Speaker 1: there alone together before it all went crazy.
Speaker 5: Claim I want to hear it, but it was was
Speaker 5: to be honest. I used to lay in my bedroom
Speaker 5: at night and he'd come home later than me, and
Speaker 5: there's no one in particular, but I'd lay up and
Speaker 5: then go I could hear him coming and realize my
Speaker 5: big brother was about to walk in the room. But
Speaker 5: there was always humor, So I'll give you one. He
Speaker 5: was putting stuff on his face. He had pimples, and
Speaker 5: I said I was laughing. I was trying to laughing
Speaker 5: at him, and he said, it'll happen to you one day.
Speaker 5: He always warned me that everything that happened to him
Speaker 5: would happen to me, and it said that he was right.
Speaker 5: And then I was having a go at him and
Speaker 5: he was in the bottom bunk and I was in
Speaker 5: the top bunk. And you know, they're not bottled together,
Speaker 5: or they weren't back then, and I was giggling him
Speaker 5: for some reason, and he put his feet up onto
Speaker 5: the bed and he would kick me up and I
Speaker 5: nearly hit the roof, and he would kick me in
Speaker 5: the air. And as much as it drove me mad,
Speaker 5: I thought it was hilarious. And when how much fun
Speaker 5: is having a brother? So yeah, probably sitting on that
Speaker 5: bunk with him trying to kick me to the roof.
Speaker 1: Because I will gladly kick in the ass next time
Speaker 1: I see you.
Speaker 3: Well, what about your relationship makes you feel most grateful?
Speaker 5: I'll go with it. The blood of them water thing.
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean me and Clayton haven't had our battles,
Speaker 5: but you know inherently, which you can't say about friendship,
Speaker 5: that when push comes to shove, they're there to push
Speaker 5: and shove anyone that's trying to push and shove you.
Speaker 5: And knowing that that's a given, there's you know, only
Speaker 5: people who have brothers and can you'll know it. And
Speaker 5: those listening that have brothers or sisters, there's it's an
Speaker 5: unwritten law that you can have a go at each other,
Speaker 5: but if someone else has a go at you, they're
Speaker 5: in trouble. And that's kind of nice to know you've got.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like your own emotional bodyguard.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I won't mention the film, but I walked off a
Speaker 1: movie five weeks before it was I was due to
Speaker 1: direct it because someone was trying to be macha alien
Speaker 1: between our brotherhood and it was just nothing was nothing
Speaker 1: is more important to me than that. So no film
Speaker 1: was going to get in the way of that. So
Speaker 1: I sort of stepped aside. But yeah, it's like there's
Speaker 1: a it's funny there is seven years difference, but that
Speaker 1: was when we were kids. They were two different people.
Speaker 1: They were two different the Shane and I we feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like he's twin and and and there's
Speaker 1: no one I would rather spend time with other than
Speaker 1: my wife. And that's kind of weird, isn't it. I
Speaker 1: haven't Shane in bed with me with my wife is
Speaker 1: kind of but we're just it's always just that big.
Speaker 1: The world isn't The world isn't a scary place when
Speaker 1: I'm with my bro. When I'm with my bro, it's
Speaker 1: a happy place. It's a funny place. It's it's a
Speaker 1: warm place. It's it's loving. You know.
Speaker 2: I love that answer, all right? One word to describe
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 4: Fat what he said? And you know what camp you
Speaker 4: know one listening is.
Speaker 2: You guys, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 3: Clayton and Shane Jacobs and you guys have rippers and yeah,
Speaker 3: thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Man, it's joy Camp. Thank you went.
Speaker 2: Off the brothers, Jacobson go. I love that chat. That was.
Speaker 2: That was fantastic.
Speaker 3: I worked with Shane probably a decade ago on the
Speaker 3: Beaconsfield mini series and we struck up a really great
Speaker 3: friendship that has continued.
Speaker 2: Always love seeing him. He's as I said in the intro,
Speaker 2: he's just so authentic.
Speaker 3: And Clayton is He's just the same.
Speaker 2: He's a ripper.
Speaker 3: I'm so stoked, I, you know, get to have a
Speaker 3: chat with a couple of blakes and maybe walk away
Speaker 3: with a job.
Speaker 1: Unreal.
Speaker 2: All right, well, listen, Ali will be with me here
Speaker 2: next time.
Speaker 3: I'm going to race out and go get the ingredients
Speaker 3: for the for the chicken soup, so I will catch
Speaker 3: up with you next time on separate bathrooms.
Speaker 5: Thanks for being here, and Cam, I'm going to give
Speaker 5: you my favorite memory of you, which was when we
Speaker 5: were shooting Beaconsfield. You and me had a cabin right
Speaker 5: beside each other and Tazzy we did and mornings I
Speaker 5: would be woken, not in a bad way, but just
Speaker 5: in the distance. You'd be sitting on a porch playing guitar.
Speaker 5: And practicing ever so slightly, and it was and it
Speaker 5: was soft music. And I used to lay and listened
Speaker 5: to you singing playing guitar. You had that little plain
Speaker 5: guitar oead of you in your bag. So that's that's
Speaker 5: one of my favorite every time I've ever been near
Speaker 5: you put a smile on the face because you're one
Speaker 5: of the world's great humans. But listening to you serenade
Speaker 5: me with that, you knowing you were doing.
Speaker 4: So he's my favorite memory of you.
Speaker 2: There you go, Oh, it's very kind of you. Well, guys,
Speaker 2: let's make a shitty musical.
Speaker 1: Two yes, yes,