1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: I'll get a you Bloody Champions, Welcome to another and 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: stillming the You project, Craig Anthony Harper. We've got a 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: cast of thousands. As I look at my screen today, 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: there's four humans. Four humans on the screen. Tara, Jarrett Russell, Jarrett, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Tiffany and Cook. Will start with the person on bottom 6 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: left for me, Tiffany and Cook, who's just had seven 7 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: compliments in twenty seconds, and a big fat head is 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: growing as I speak, Hi, Tiv. 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: My face hurts from smiling from all those compliments. Apps. 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: Ah, Rusty's been. Rusty's been pumping up your ties and 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: telling you what an athlete you are and how jacked 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: you are. And he's not wrong. You are. You are 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: pretty jacked. There ain't too many people of your vintage. 14 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: You old lady, that is, says the man who's nineteen 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: years old of that error's in good shape, as you 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: just quickly before we go to our guests, You're going 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: to India in about seventy less than seventy two hours, 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: it's about sixty hours. How are you feeling excited? 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: Chaotic and excited? And it's a bit and it feels 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: a little bit surreal because it's a very different kind 21 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: of holiday. Yeah, do you are you? 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: Do you have any apprehension because it's you know, obviously 23 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: it's a different place and is I think one point 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: one billion people and it's like that, you know, I'm 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: not sure that you're Indian? Is that? Or you're Hindi? 26 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: Is that great? Is that the language of it? Rush Jarrett? 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Is that the language of India? Hindi? 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hindi, Hindi is the Well there's lots of dialects in. 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: India, but yeah, Hindi Hindi or a dialect of wow, 30 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 4: So you better brush up. 31 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 3: Also udu udu wow. 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: Fucking hell. That's I'm glad you're not a bloody language teacher. Well, anyway, 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: have you packed yet? 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm a last minute packer. I'm a last minute everything. 35 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: So you know, it's a little bit like when I 36 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: have speaking gigsaps. I'm just running around in a whirlwind 37 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: of part anxiety, part excitement, part I'll just wait, I'll 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: just do it later. 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: So you know what I reckon. If you are a 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: person in school and you wait until the last day 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: before you start prepping for exams or you start writing 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: that paper or that assignment that carries on through life 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: and you become the chick that packs like twelve minutes 44 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: before you're getting picked up, or you know, does Tara 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: Jarrett do that rush? 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: Jarrett? 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: I tell you what I have given up when I 48 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: say we're leaving at ten You know what I do 49 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: now if we've got to leave at ten am, I 50 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: say to her, we've got to leave at eight thirty. 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 4: We're going to leave at eight thirty, and I build 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: in a nineteen minute window of running late. 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: So not true, it really. Now I'll just point out 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: if you listening to this, well obviously you're listening to this, 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: but you're listening and thinking to yourself the audio is 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: a bit weird. That's because Russ's in a car somewhere 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: in the middle of somewhere and Tara is in an 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: office somewhere else. So that will explain this slight variation 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: in the quality and perhaps even the volume of audio. Tara, 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: we were talking to you before we went live, Tara 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: and Russ of course of at the symbol at Pilates 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: and other things and places. But so you've been building 63 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: this brand in this business for a couple of years now, 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: and you've kind of hit that tipping point where it's 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: now gone a little bit. Let's be honest, mental, you 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: can say that in this context, I think or not. 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Send me an email and it's like I said before, 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: it's a combination of awesomeness and mayhem, and you went, yeah. 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 5: Kind of, yeah it is. 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 6: So we've just we've just launched our head office here 71 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 6: and so we've got new stuff and just new everything. 72 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 5: So before it used to be just the. 73 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 6: Two of us pretty much doing everything, and now we've 74 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 6: got staff in place, which is amazing and they're awesome, 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 6: but we've got to I'm trying to train them at 76 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 6: the same time being. 77 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 5: Busier than we ever had. And I was just saying, I. 78 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 6: Don't have the time to train the stuff so I 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 6: can stop being busy, so I need to start working 80 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 6: on it. 81 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, what's the gap between all the awareness between busyness 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 7: and efficiency, Like you can be busy and inefficient or 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 7: busy and efficient, or you can be not so busy 84 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 7: and quite efficient. 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: Right, m. 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: So for me it has to be everything I'm doing now, 87 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 6: I'm literally asking myself, is this adding value to the growth, 88 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 6: because that's what my job is is to grow to 89 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 6: grow the business. Is this going to add value to 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 6: the to the product or am I stepping into my 91 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 6: micromanaging And that's what I've got to step away from that, 92 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 6: that micromanagement area and just let other people do their 93 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 6: jobs and trust in them and delegate and them the 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 6: responsibility to do it. 95 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 5: So we are getting there. 96 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 6: And that's something we're instilling from the start this week. 97 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 6: But we've really only we opened our head office on 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 6: the seventeenth of SEPTEMBERUS so oh sorry, August. So very 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 6: young in terms of a head office and our stuff 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 6: being under the one roof. 101 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 5: We have had staff, but this is the first time 102 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 5: we're all now under the one roof. 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what I reckon? Congrats? By the way, 104 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: I went and had a look at your HQ. Is 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: it I should know? Is it Port Melbourne I went to? 106 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: Or where's that that? I went to? South Melbourne? Fucking 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: amazing HQ, like all the production stuff where they do 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: all the filming. You've got to be I'm not just 109 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: like the point of this is not a promo for 110 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: their business, by the way, everyone, it's just talk about. 111 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: What I love about is someone who has an idea 112 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: and then they turn the idea into a thing, like 113 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: a small thing, and it grows into a bigger thing, 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: and then other people come in and buy into the 115 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: vision and the brand and they breathe life into it, 116 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: and now they've got this fucking amazing, you know, flourishing 117 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: enterprise that's all through Australia and growing and expanding. We'll 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: talking about the business in a moment, but you know 119 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: what I think, and this is very out of alignment 120 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: with the warm, fuzzy, let's hold hands and sing kumbay 121 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: our mindset that's pervading twenty twenty four. I think in 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: a way, when you're doing what you're doing for the 123 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: stage you are at for the development of your business, 124 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: you can't have balance, like fuck balance for a while. 125 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Like I think, like when I was growing Harpers, and 126 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: you guys were involved in Harpers in the early days. 127 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: But when the first Harpers, which was Hampton Street, I 128 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: used to get there at four point thirty or five 129 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: in the morning and leave at nine at night because 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: I was a whole fucking company, and I worked ridiculous 131 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: hours and clean the toilets and vacuums your gym and 132 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: fucking polish the mirrors, and there's a period of time 133 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: where you just necessity dictates that for a while you 134 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: need to be fully immersed and you having some downtime 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: and a fucking massage and asleep, and it's you're probably 136 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: not going to have it for a while, and that's 137 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: just the price you paid for building something amazing, Do 138 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: you concur. 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 5: Or totally totally? 140 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: Well, we actually our head office actually has a spoke. 141 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 6: We're very lucky our space up the top that we 142 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 6: can actually stay at, so it's got to apartment up 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 6: the top. So I actually left here at six forty 144 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 6: five morning and have been absolutely flat out since then 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 6: and just went from phone call and meeting to meeting 146 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 6: to phone call and then I literally got out of 147 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 6: a meeting to come and do this with you. And 148 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 6: I just sent a text to us seeing it's a 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 6: massive day, but it's not going to finish anytime soon. 150 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: So it'll be it just keeps going. 151 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 6: And a lot of the times, especially especially the boys, will. 152 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: Say, you know, stop emailing, you know. 153 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 6: It's nighttime, watch a movie or something, and I'll say 154 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 6: to them, I actually like this, I actually enjoy it. 155 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 6: It's actually I save the bits of my day that 156 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 6: I can do while I'm sitting on a couch and 157 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 6: I find more enjoyable for nighttime work. So that's sort 158 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 6: of my downtime. But there are times where we go 159 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 6: far out we need a break. It's just my brain is. 160 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: And I think also, you know, the thing that we 161 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: don't talk about. I talk about on the show a bit, 162 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: but broadly you don't talk about the impact that your 163 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: work has. So we talk about work life balance. But 164 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: I always say that if you are doing something that 165 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: for the most part you love, then eighty hours a 166 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: week is better for you than forty hours a week 167 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: of something you fucking hate. 168 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: Right. 169 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting people work eighty hours a week, but 170 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: I you know, when I came and saw you a 171 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: new place the other day and I see you guys, 172 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: just like how awesome this thing that you're building is, 173 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: and how happy you both were and exhausted but happy. 174 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: You go, yeah, this is I mean, you couldn't do 175 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: this forever, but for a period of time, or as 176 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: the Christians say, for a season. You know, then it's true, 177 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: that's what they say, that's what we say. I should say. 178 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Then you know, it's it's like that's what you do. 179 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: You go look I'm going to go nuts for a 180 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: year or two or three. And I don't know anyone 181 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: who's built something awesome who didn't do that at some stage. 182 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 5: You have to. You have to. 183 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 6: You have to completely envelop yourself by it and be 184 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 6: totally immersed. 185 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 5: It's the only way it can happen. 186 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 6: It's the only way we can grow at the speed 187 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 6: that we're growing and have control. Otherwise it would just 188 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 6: be absolute chaos. So very rarely is their downtime. Well, 189 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 6: I haven't been, as you know, we live in Country Victoria. 190 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 6: Our head office is in Melbourne. I think I worked out. 191 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 6: What did I work out? 192 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Russ? 193 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 6: I'd had three days at home in a house in 194 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 6: Country Victoria in now nine weeks, I mean Melbourne, Russ 195 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 6: is in Russ's in Caiabram. So yeah, yeah, So he 196 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 6: says to me, Now he goes, you live in Melbourne 197 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 6: and you visit? 198 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: Yes, because I. 199 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 6: Just have an opportunity to leave what we're doing at 200 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 6: the moment, because there's just so much to do and 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 6: so many people I need to connect with, and it's 202 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 6: all great. 203 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: I feel like you know, when you're doing something, when 204 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: you're growing something, whatever the something is that you're growing 205 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: and you're taking it from concept to practical reality to 206 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: real world business to blah blah blah. Like in part, 207 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: how well you can do that is about how well 208 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: you can solve problems in real time. I feel like 209 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: that business development is about high level problem solving, like 210 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: eighteen hours a day. 211 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 8: Yep, you're right, because the more humans you bring into 212 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 8: the organization, and the bigger your organization becomes, just by 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 8: the sheer size and the number of people that are involved, 214 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 8: that brings in, as you say, more problems, more personalities, 215 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 8: more conversations, more. 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: Things to be aware of. And what Tara and I 217 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: are doing, and. 218 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 4: She's alluded to it is we're trying to put people 219 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: in place of us to a degree and replicate our 220 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 4: skill set with the people or bring other skills into 221 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 4: the organization that we don't have because we can't sustain 222 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 4: this pace the two of us. And so the difficult 223 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: part is bringing the right people in at the right time, 224 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: managing the. 225 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: Sort of expense of that. There's a fiscal cost to that. 226 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: You've got to pay for those people, and manage that 227 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 4: with the with the growth of your business, and that 228 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: means managing the cash flow and so yeah, there's a 229 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: whole heap of considerations and that's where Tara finds herself. 230 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: Now she has to look at the. 231 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 4: Global picture of what we have to achieve and she 232 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: has to put the right people in place and manage 233 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 4: that growth, whilst I continue to kind of work at 234 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 4: the coal face of new business and new franchisees. And 235 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: I guess the end goal here for us is to 236 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 4: is to almost make ourselves a little bit irrelevant, but 237 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 4: that takes time. 238 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: So how many for those people who don't know who 239 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: the fuck Russ or Tara are because we didn't really 240 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: explain it upfront. I was kind of operating on the 241 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: assumption that you've been on a few times and people 242 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: might be familiar, which will be true, but also people 243 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: won't be familiar. So the business is called at Pilates, Tara, 244 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: can you give us a thirty second synopsis of what 245 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: it is? And then I've got a couple of questions 246 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: for you. 247 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 6: So we are we're a plot to studio, So we're 248 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 6: a former Plarty studio, but we're the only twenty four 249 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 6: hour reformer Plarties franchise in Australia. So we started in 250 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 6: twenty twenty two. We are franchising and we're they're just 251 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 6: over twenty sites. 252 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 5: We've got more little open up this year. 253 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 6: But we are what we call a hybrid studio, so 254 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 6: we're actually staffed. We can be staffed at South Melbourne. 255 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 6: Here we're staffed up to twelve hours a day and 256 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 6: non staffed for twelve. So we actually have instructors on 257 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 6: site that are there to help members. They you know, 258 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 6: all the things a normal instructor would do, they're available 259 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 6: to do that. But we have hundreds and hundreds of 260 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 6: classes on our platform that we've grown and developed and 261 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 6: brought instructors in from all around. 262 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 5: Australia to record. 263 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 6: So you can or the amendment can come in choose 264 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 6: any class they want to do by any instructor that 265 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 6: they want to choose to do, but they still have 266 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 6: a physical instructor in the room is there to guide 267 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 6: and help and you know. 268 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 5: Just there to help them with anything that they might need. 269 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 6: Or you can come after hours if you want to, 270 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 6: and come at ten o'clock at night on a Sunday. 271 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 5: If you want to. 272 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: So it's convenience, it's also flexibility for people. But the 273 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 6: other one for us is affordability. So we're a lot cheaper. 274 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 6: We are per week what most people are per session, 275 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 6: and that means it's because we can control so many 276 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 6: variables and that's massive. 277 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: So if I come in on a Sunday night at 278 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: ten o'clock, I'm doing class and I'm using there's a 279 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: screen on on each a former bed, and I picked 280 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: my class from that. I put on headphones and then 281 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: I go through that with you know, the teacher on 282 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: the screen in front of me, and there's like a 283 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: shitload of classes. But if I go in staffed hours, 284 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I do the same thing. But if I have any questions, 285 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: there's someone there right feel like I'm doing it. I 286 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing that. I'm not trying to everyone. 287 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain the point of difference. Well, I 288 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: love that there's like in a fucking in an ocean 289 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: of fitness products, right, fitness programs and gyms and step 290 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: into this and they're forty fucking seven that and BFT 291 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: and you know, twenty four hour gyms and ladies gyms 292 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: and old people gyms and mobile gyms, and it's amazing 293 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: that you came up with something that hasn't been done 294 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: and then when you go, oh, by the way, it's 295 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: not forty bucks a class, it's forty bucks a week 296 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. How much is it's about that, 297 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: isn't it? 298 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? Right? 299 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: Which is? You know, it's what about the just from 300 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: a business development point of view, So I really wanted 301 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: this to be somewhat about you know, business development and 302 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: for people who are thinking about building a business or 303 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: a brand, but it a you know, a micro business 304 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: or something that's going to turn into something a bit bigger. 305 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: Is your biggest challenge? Maybe you can't answer this, but 306 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: or maybe just thoughts on each managing the business development 307 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: per se structure, organization processes, or is it managing and 308 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: finding and leading the people like the business stuff or 309 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: the people's stuff or is it the same Russ. 310 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 4: Initially Craig, it was the business stuff because we had 311 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: to create a business that was going to break into 312 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: the Australian market and actually find it its own place, 313 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 4: find its own ecosystem. 314 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 3: That was the initial part. 315 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: That's more or less done now, that just needs a 316 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: bit of tweaking now and ongoing. 317 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: The overwhelming most important. 318 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: Part of whether or not we're going to continue to 319 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: succeed and grow and develop is going to be highly 320 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 4: dependent on our ability to recruit and appoint the right 321 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: franchisees and also have the right head office staff that 322 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: will help us support those people. 323 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 3: It's all about the people now. 324 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yeah, that's interesting, Howie, did you want to 325 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: add something? 326 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, I was going to say exactly the 327 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 6: same thing where I said at at the start, totally 328 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 6: it was just all about the business and the processes. 329 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 5: Now it's both. You've got the getting the right people. 330 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 6: In place, but the other thing that we're doing at 331 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 6: the moment is trying to now take the development of 332 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 6: the business. So we do a lot of sort of 333 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 6: R and D and we're trying to stay ahead and 334 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 6: say what's next, what's next all the time, So it's 335 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 6: constantly looking at what the next. 336 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: Iteration of the business is. 337 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 6: You can't stay still, you know, adapt or die, and 338 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 6: that's what the fitness industry is notoriously terrible at. We go, oh, 339 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 6: we've made it and we've got our product, that's it. 340 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 6: If we stand still, then there'll be five other franchises 341 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 6: just like us. 342 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 5: So we have to and push ahead and what's the 343 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: next thing. 344 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 6: And one of the things that we always say is 345 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 6: we are a technology company. 346 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 5: Underlying that's what we do. 347 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 6: That's our main thing that we focus on is the 348 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 6: use of technology. It Plarties is just our product that 349 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 6: we're bringing to the market because it's a product we 350 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 6: love and know and people want. But we try and 351 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: make it as easy and as fun and as new. 352 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: To people as we possibly can. 353 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 6: So that's where a lot of our sort of that 354 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 6: business side of it is more pushing forward rather than 355 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 6: you know, still working on the processes. 356 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 5: The processes are done now, it's like what's next for 357 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 5: all the time? 358 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: What have you learned in the last We'll start with you, Tara, 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: while we've got you and rush you think, But in 360 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: the last three years, what's one thing that you've learned. 361 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you've had businesses for most of your adult life, right, 362 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: nearly all of it. The same with you, Rusty. But 363 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: what have you learned that you want to tell someone 364 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: that's going to start a business or improve a current business, 365 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: something that you learned where you went, Fuck, I wish 366 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: I knew that earlier, or I wish I'd done that differently, 367 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: or that's just a good lesson for me to have. 368 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, the first thing i'd say is if you've wanted 369 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 6: to start a business, you go, I've got a great idea, 370 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 6: which people will say all the time to me. 371 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 5: They'll go, I've got this idea. 372 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 6: The first question is what's the point? What's your point 373 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 6: of difference? Why you if it's the same thing but 374 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 6: different colored walls, or the same thing and just six 375 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 6: or fourmers instead of five, and forget it, you're just 376 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 6: you're fighting, You're trying to have another piece in the 377 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 6: same you're cutting the pie up into more pieces. 378 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 5: So find that point of difference and why. 379 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 6: People are going to want to come to you, Why 380 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 6: why you're so compelling. Probably the next thing I would 381 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 6: say is borrow as little as you can at the start, 382 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 6: and that's that's just keeping keeping over slow, do as 383 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 6: go as hard and as long as you can without 384 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 6: having to expand too much or spend too much money. 385 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 5: At this you know too early. 386 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 6: The other thing is if you've got if this is 387 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 6: your if you've got a real understanding of what you're doing, 388 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: trust yourself and don't take everyone. 389 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 5: Else's opinions on board. 390 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 6: And I think I wish that's something I could have 391 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 6: told myself way back, because I know now there are 392 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 6: certain things that I thought, thought I could have gone 393 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 6: in a certain direction, but listen to too many people, 394 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: and then you know, paralysis by analysis. 395 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: You start, you start taking everyone's opinions on board. 396 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's in business jargon they call that a 397 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: usp unique selling proposition. That and how many how many 398 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: would be speakers I've spoken to this week in fact, 399 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: but how many would be speakers come to me or 400 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: have come to me over the years, And they go, basically, 401 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: I want to do what you do, which is fine. 402 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: I go, all right, well, there's I don't know how 403 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: many probably ten thousand professional speakers in Australia already who 404 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: are ahead of you, who've got more skill, more experience, 405 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: more understanding, more insight, more brand. 406 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: You know. 407 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: It's like so, and it's not that you can't do it, 408 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: but if you're just going to be, as you said, 409 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, just another speaker, we're in a different fucking 410 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: outfit doing the same thing, not as not as good 411 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: as the people who are already doing it. So there's that, 412 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: you know, And the same with personal training. I mean, 413 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: back in the day when Harper's was a kind of 414 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: a unicorn in the fitness landscape, Like, what the fuck 415 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: is personal training? There's literally five personal training studios within 416 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: eight hundred meters of my house, like five, you know, 417 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: Like it's just if you want to, you know, if 418 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: you want to open one, open one. But it wouldn't 419 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: be my recommendation. If you're thinking about doing something, I 420 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't open a PT studio, Not these days. I'd 421 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: if you want to be a PT, go and work 422 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: in someone else's and let them pay the bills. But 423 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: you know what about for you, Rusty, what's been a 424 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: revelation or a light bulb for you in the last 425 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: few years? 426 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 427 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: For me? 428 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: For me, I think again, if I could go back 429 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 4: and coach myself, I would say to myself, use the 430 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 4: skills that you that you already have or that you 431 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 4: good at, Like what's your natural inclination and that's something 432 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: that you should look to build a business in. If 433 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 4: you're good with people and you like being around people, 434 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 4: then do a business that's involved in service and customer 435 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 4: service or something like that. But if you're not, if 436 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 4: you're not good with people and that's not your strength, 437 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: then don't work in that space because you're not going 438 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 4: to be very good at it. If you don't enjoy 439 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 4: numbers and technology, then then don't try and start a 440 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 4: business in that space. So what are your skills, what 441 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 4: are you good at, what do you like to do, 442 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 4: and and try and develop something in that area, because 443 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: ultimately you've already got a head start probably on your competitors. Yeah, 444 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: and the other thing I would say is don't don't 445 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 4: don't try and grow too quickly, and you know, manage 446 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: manage your growth. Be really get your business to the 447 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 4: point where it's really good, it really stands out, it's 448 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 4: really got that point of difference, and be a little 449 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: bit content with that for a while before you try 450 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: and escalate it, you know, to. 451 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: The next big thing. Because because bigger, what. 452 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: I've learned in the last few years is bigger does 453 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 4: not always mean more profitable, because bigger also means more expenses, 454 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 4: more money going out. 455 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: That's so true, Tara. Do you think that people underestimate 456 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: the physical, mental, emotional cost like they I think a 457 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: lot of people go, oh fuck, it's so hard, Like 458 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: what did you think? What did you think there was 459 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: going to be? Like it is like this, you know this, 460 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: You might get there, but you're going to fuck up 461 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: Part of your life for the next five years. Just 462 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: know that going in, are you okay? You know, the 463 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: whole fucking kicking back and weekends and like socializing for 464 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: a period of time that might have to go out 465 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: the window. Are you okay with that? And if you're not, 466 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: then cool, that's also cool, But don't do this. 467 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 5: Totally agree. 468 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 6: I do remember the I want to answer that from 469 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 6: two aspects. One is from our point of view, but 470 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 6: also our franchisees who were coming on board and their 471 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 6: start because they're starting their own business, they're just using 472 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 6: our model and process. But I remember the time where 473 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 6: I knew this was a critical point for us. 474 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 5: It's going to grow and if this grows, I've got 475 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 5: to go. 476 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 6: Balls and all and put the amount of time, effort 477 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 6: and energy in. And I really had to and sit 478 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 6: down with Russ and go, are we ready? 479 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 5: Do we want to do this? Can we go again? 480 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 6: And we made that decision and said yes. And then 481 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 6: but our growth, as Russ was saying, was pretty was 482 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 6: pretty planned. And then we pulled the trigger on doing 483 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 6: a head office and we knew it was going to 484 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 6: really take off from there. But again it was all 485 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 6: controlled and we knew exactly what we were in for. 486 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 6: When a new franchise e comes on board, a lot 487 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 6: of times they love the idea. 488 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 5: It is an ego. It can be an ego. 489 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 6: Business people love the idea of it's like you said, 490 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 6: having a PT center or having their own gym. They 491 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 6: you know, they want to be able to say, this 492 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 6: is my space. Look at it Isn't it beautiful? Looks 493 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 6: great on Instagram. But it's not just about creating a 494 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 6: beautiful space. It's actually got to work, and they can 495 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 6: create monsters. We've had We've had studios that have opened 496 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 6: with two hundred plus members. 497 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: The day they open. So the day they. 498 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 6: Open, they've got over two hundred people that are going 499 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 6: to come into their studio that need. 500 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 5: To be onboard. 501 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 6: They need to know exactly how to use the tech 502 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 6: they need. Everything needs to be perfect and all of 503 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 6: a sudden you can see them going oh shit, yeah, 504 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 6: and we. 505 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: Do a lot of prep them. It's a it's a 506 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 5: big job. 507 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a weird question for you, Russ. Russ, Well, 508 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: this is not the weird question. This is leading. I 509 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: think think this is an interesting question for our listeners. 510 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: What you did the first center open the first at Pilarates, 511 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: like of the you know, your current kind of stable. 512 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 4: Of them, early early twenty twenty one. 513 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so at Pilarates as a business, would you say 514 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: that like it started in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty. 515 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 4: No, the look we were with Tara was toying with 516 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 4: the concept probably in twenty seventeen eighteen. But the moment 517 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 4: we actually made an existing face to face studio into 518 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 4: an at Polarti studio and started making people use the 519 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: platform to complete their class was early twenty twenty one. 520 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to say the genesis for at Pilarates, 521 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: which is your company, twenty twenty one. How old were 522 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: you then, Russ? 523 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 3: Well, that's three, So I was fifty fifty three? Are 524 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 3: you going on fifty four? 525 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: So you were fifty four? Tara, how old were you 526 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: at that time? 527 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, fifty two turning fifty three. Hence I said, I 528 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 6: needed to make that decision to all what you know. 529 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: But I think this is fucking amazing, right because you 530 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: two are old as fuck, right, So you two are 531 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: fucking t rexes, right, You're both fucking dinosaurs, you know. 532 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: But this is encouraging because and I'm being silly, of course, 533 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: because I'm older than both of you. So Tara, you're 534 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: what fifty five or six? Now? 535 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 5: I just turned I'll stop it. I just turned fifty four. 536 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: Home fifty five, well, I don't know. And Russy, what 537 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: are you? 538 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: I'll be you fifty seven in a month. 539 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So fifty five and fifty seven, give or take. 540 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: And what I love is that you're both fucking heading 541 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: towards sixty and this thing is just starting to flourish 542 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: and grow, and and you might be like, I love 543 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: this idea of not in an unrealistic, fucking delusional way, 544 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: but this idea of getting better as we get older. Now, 545 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: of course there's an inevitability of cognitive decline eventually and 546 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: physiological decline. Brough, I get all of that, right, But 547 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I say to people all the time, you know, yeah, 548 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: my shoulders are a bit fucked, and I have the 549 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: odd blower back issue. And I haven't had an erection 550 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty nine, but but I often just kidding 551 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: it was ninety two. But I often I always say 552 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: to people, like, I truly feel like I'm I'm getting better, 553 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: do you know, in like I feel like I'm better 554 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: under pressure. I feel like I'm better at solving problems. 555 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a better decision maker and leader, 556 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, And there are some things I'm probably not 557 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: as good at, of course, bench press being up there 558 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: and as previously discussed erections, but you know, like I 559 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: feel there's a real I'm kidding everyone, Tift put a 560 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: face in her hands, but there's a real kind of 561 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: underestimation of what we can do, be create in our 562 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: fifties and beyond. 563 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you're absolutely right. 564 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: And the other thing that I have learnt and I've 565 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 4: watched Tara go through it as well, is because of 566 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: the life experience that we both have going through, you know, 567 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 4: all sorts of positive and negative and very uplifting and 568 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: very traumatic experiences, especially Tara in the last couple of years. 569 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 4: It's amazing how going through those processes gives you a 570 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 4: very valuable thing called perspective. And what when someone comes 571 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: to Tara with a major problem about their business or 572 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: something in their workday, She'll just look at them and go, Okay, well, 573 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: let's just look at the pluses and minus here, and 574 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 4: within ten minutes she's managed to calm the situation and 575 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 4: get this person looking at the problem in inverted commas 576 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: in a completely different way because she's able to show 577 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: them perspective. 578 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, isn't it funny? Howie Tara Everyone I call 579 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: Howie Tara Howie because that was her name before she 580 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: met young Russ, back when he was not a t rex. 581 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: How when we reframe things. I did a podcast that 582 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: went up today today being Wednesday, called something like when 583 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: Failure is not failure, And I was talking about this 584 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: idea of how two people go for a run together. 585 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: One of them wants to run sub fifty for ten 586 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: k's and the other one wants to get somewhere in 587 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: the ballpark of fifty five right or they start out 588 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: the same and they end up both running fifty two minutes. 589 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: So the person who wanted to run sub fifty is 590 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: disappointed and pissed off and angry and frustrated and feels 591 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: like a failure. And the person who hoped to get 592 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: somewhere around fifty five and they've done fifty two the 593 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: exact same time as the other dude or dude at 594 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: they're happy as fuck. They feel like a winner. But 595 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: they both did the same activity and got the same 596 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: practical outcome. Fifty two minutes, yet they each had a 597 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: completely different perception and therefore experience, right, And I just 598 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: think it's when you realize that and we're not saying 599 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: there are no problems. Of course there are actual problems. 600 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: But sometimes we turn a one out of ten into 601 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: a fifteen out of ten because we're having a bad moment, 602 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: you know. And then there are other people like, you know, 603 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: not that long ago, not that long ago, I spoke 604 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: at your dad's funeral right now, that there aren't many 605 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: harder days than that. So you get through that and 606 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: you go, I can do fucking anything like this is 607 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: not hard. You know. It gives you a level of 608 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: perspective that you can't have unless you go through shits 609 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: sometimes or unless you really become very good at understanding 610 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: the way that you are managing your own subjective reality. 611 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's nothing that replaces experience or experiences. I have 612 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 6: to agree totally in terms of what you're saying about 613 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 6: reframing and and I've got about five examples that run 614 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 6: through my head immediately, just of different different studio owners 615 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 6: that I've come into contact with and had to help 616 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 6: through different processes that when I actually, you know, they're 617 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 6: in their mind. They've created a reality that doesn't exist 618 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 6: based on. 619 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 5: A problem that or might not happen. 620 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 6: And to try and actually stay to them that it's 621 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 6: a non issue because you break it or dan and 622 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 6: you actually look at how successful they are and to 623 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 6: show them do you know what you know this this 624 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 6: studio is in the top three in the country. 625 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 5: You know, you've got five thousand appointments a month, which 626 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 5: is what some of them are doing. 627 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 6: It's just crazy, and all of a sudden they go, Okay, 628 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 6: it's not that bigger, it's not that bigger issue. But yeah, 629 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 6: from a personal perspective, you're right. Twelve months later, I 630 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 6: lost my brother and we came off the back of 631 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 6: you know, fighting for our business through COVID and in 632 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 6: amongst all of that, trying to grow a business and 633 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 6: had two boys finishing year twelve and another one in 634 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 6: university and it was just sheer bedlam, but we. 635 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 5: Just pushed through. And now, as you said, everything's easy 636 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 5: now because. 637 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: It's all really shout out to my godson, your son, 638 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: who is my godson, young Mitch, who graduated yes day 639 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: as we record this. So yesterday was the seventeenth of 640 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: September graduated with a law degree. And what a good 641 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: boy are you too? This is a bit of a 642 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: left turn, but you must be super proud. 643 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there was a tier or three? 644 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: Was there? 645 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: There was? 646 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: There was, it was, and. 647 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 5: It was it was. I was proud of him. 648 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 6: I'm proud of him for one getting into that course 649 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 6: because that was a bloody great effort to stuck it out. 650 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 6: He completed it, and he had two years of that 651 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 6: course in lockdown. Yes, thirdly he graduated, but he also 652 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 6: graduated with distinction. 653 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 5: So he did just finish it. 654 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 6: He finished it incredibly well. And he's still continuing on. 655 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 6: So now it's all about practicing and being admitted to 656 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 6: the bar and everything he needs to do for that. 657 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 5: So and he's all organized for that as well. So yeah, 658 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 5: we are proud of proud of him. He deserves. 659 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 6: He deserves every bit of acknowledgment he's got over the 660 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 6: last couple of days. 661 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: What about you, Captain emotionally intelligence, did you break out 662 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: a fucking hug, Rusty? I mean, did you did you 663 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: have to watch an online workshop or something? I mean, 664 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: I reckon, I've hugged him more than you've hugged him. 665 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 5: No, no, uh. 666 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 1: Mitch, look how fucking awkward he is. 667 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm very much in touch with my emotional capabilities these days, 668 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 4: aren't I? 669 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: Tara? Tara? 670 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're the fact, you're the high watermark for 671 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: fucking emotional intelligence. Let's let's just get a poster view 672 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: up on the internet. Well whine because I know you've 673 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: got a busy day, but just quickly, so what are 674 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: you currently sitting at, Tara? How many cents? Does twenty twenty? 675 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 5: Rusty of twenty one. 676 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 6: But we've got a few more opening up before the 677 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 6: year's out, so it'll be sort of mid twenties. 678 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 5: We were number twenty, which was head office. 679 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 6: We've got some more. We've got Geelong opening up in 680 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 6: on October five. We've got Southport on the Gold Coast 681 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 6: in Queensland on October twelve, Kawana or. 682 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 5: In sometimes post posts in November, and then we're looking 683 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 5: at Kai and Gladstone. 684 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 6: Gosh, all sorts of You've got LOCATIOND South Australia. 685 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: So there's a lot. 686 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 6: There's a lot happening, and it's just this continual, continual 687 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 6: process of looking after current and then moving forward with new. 688 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's exciting. 689 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: Do you do you either of you can answer this, 690 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,760 Speaker 1: So I'll ask you russy, Like when Harper's was growing, 691 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: and you know, I had multiple centers and all of 692 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: that stuff, and it was a different model obviously not franchises, 693 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: but we were pretty fucking busy. I was always looking 694 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: for basically a mini me, you know, like I wanted 695 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: to and you were one of them. Obviously have surpassed 696 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: me now because I'm the one carrying your fucking wheelburw 697 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: barrow full of money around, But you know, it's like 698 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: you came in, Tara came in and and like, here 699 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: are these people who are a bit younger than me 700 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 1: and the talented the spot. I'm like, for me, it's 701 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: like a relief to have people who are, you know, 702 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 1: think a bit like me and can be trusted and 703 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: responsible and care about the business. And do you do 704 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: you keep an eye out for those people? 705 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 706 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely, that has been that has been right at the 707 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 4: top of our list since we decided that this business 708 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 4: was going to grow into something quite significant. Tara has 709 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 4: someone that is that she's basically training up to be 710 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 4: a mini Tara, and I'm training up someone to be 711 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 4: a mini Me. And then you know, Mitch has got 712 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 4: his eye on a role in the organization as well. 713 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: So you know. 714 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 4: What, I guess they call it succession planning. That is 715 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 4: very important to what we do. And I think, I 716 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 4: think my answer to that question is something I should 717 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 4: have added to your other question earlier. 718 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: What have I learned? 719 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: I've learned that that we need to make sure that 720 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 4: we surround ourselves with people that are more skilled, have 721 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 4: different skills, and have more abilities and intelligence than what 722 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 4: we do, because we're going to run out of you know, 723 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 4: we're going to run out of ideas at some point 724 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 4: or perhaps you know, people see things through a different lens, 725 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 4: and we need those people around us because we can't 726 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: think of everything we just and it's not healthy. It's 727 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 4: not healthy for Tara and I to be constantly coming 728 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 4: up with the direction. 729 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 3: We need our team. 730 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 4: We need our team to give us inspiration and ideas, 731 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 4: which they are. 732 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're banned with only goes so far. We're going 733 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: to wind up how we Tara, I, you know, I 734 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: think about you guys, the finish line, whether that's in 735 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: a year or five years or ten years, and however 736 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: you get, you know, however it ends up, whatever happens 737 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: in terms of you know, selling it all eventually or 738 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, obviously it's not a forever thing. But 739 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: when I think about both of you, like, I just 740 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: can't see either of you retired. I can't. I Like, 741 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: I know you don't want to do what you're doing 742 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: at the rate that you're doing it forever. But it's 743 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: like me, I'm like, no, fuck retirement. Do you know 744 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 1: what happens to people when they retire? I've seen it's 745 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 1: not fucking good, right, Retirement sucks the fatty. You know. 746 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: I can't see either of you just sitting on the 747 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: fucking veranda in Kaiabram, just Russ just with his pocket 748 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: knife and a piece of wood making a fucking pan flute, 749 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, or you just fucking knitting cardigans for the grandchildren. 750 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I agree, I'm hopeless. 751 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 6: I'll walk into I'll walk into somewhere and then pick 752 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 6: out twenty things while I can make it better. 753 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,240 Speaker 5: Ye, terrible, It's terrible. 754 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: You'll probably always be doing something. 755 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to travel, but we'll always be doing 756 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 6: something always, all. 757 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: Right, Russ? Give the business quick plug how people can 758 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: find out more and access a center? Where do they 759 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: go give us the quick spiel. 760 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, we've got a very heavy presence on Instagram. 761 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 4: But the best place is just go to our website 762 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 4: because everything grows out of there. So at polaratesat Polarates 763 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 4: dot duty is our website and if you go there, 764 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 4: you can connect with any studio around Australia. You can 765 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 4: connect with head Office, you can connect with Tara and I. 766 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 4: So go to our website and use that as the 767 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 4: starting point and you'll find where you need to go 768 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 4: from there And. 769 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: If you mentioned my name you'll get a year free. 770 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: So no, that's not true at all. Well say goodbye, 771 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,479 Speaker 1: fair Rusty, Tara, Tiffany and Cook. Thank you for having 772 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: a chat once again on the You Project. 773 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 5: Thank you thanks for having us