1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Today on Fear and Greed business News you can use. 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: Around two point six million workers will receive three point 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: five percent more in their paypacket, pushing up real wages. 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 1: The Reserve Bank warns about Donald Trump's tariffs, and AI 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: takes center stage for major companies. Plus there is still 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: an undecided seat from the federal election, and a truck 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: crash releases fourteen million bees. It's Wednesday, the fourth of 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: June twenty twenty five am. Michael Thompson and good morning, 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: Sean Aylmer. 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael. Something for everyone this morning. 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: The bees kind of came out of nowhere there did well? 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: They did literally? 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, Now sean quick mention of the newsletter, the 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Fear and Greed Newsletter, which has been going gangbusters lately. 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: It is in your inbox every morning, every weekday morning 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: by six am. If you haven't signed up, do it today. 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: Head along to Fearandgreed dot com dot au. Pop your 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: email addressing. I'll put a link in today's show notes. 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Takes about three minutes to read, and you will arrive 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: at work better prepared for the day. Now on with 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: the show. Getting that done really quickly. 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: These days, very efficient bit like reading the newsletter, Michael, 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 2: very efficient way to consume news. 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: Oh well played the main story this morning, Sean. The 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Fair Work Commission has granted a three point five percent 26 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: increase in minimum and related award wages, which directly and 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: indirectly affects millions of workers. 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: That's right. These three and a half percent increase will 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: kick in on one July and affect more than one 30 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty modern awards which employees are paid under. 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: The decision directly impacts around twenty one percent of all employees, 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: but it also sets a benchmark for millions of others. 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Those directly impacted are predominantly part time workers and female. 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: Now about half a casual employees and a disproportionate amount 35 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: are low paid or work for small businesses. Industries most 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: effective the coommodation, food services, healthcare, retail, administrative and support services. 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: The AICT you had asked for four and a half 38 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: percent rise, industry groups were pushing for two and a 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: half percent. The outcome three and a half percent, smack 40 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: bang in the middle. Given inflation is sitting at two 41 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: point four percent. Workers will finally receive a real increase 42 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: in wages, meaning they can afford to buy more goods 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: and services with their take home pay. It's a thirty 44 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: two dollars a week increase, one of the largest above 45 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: inflation increases ever awarded. It'll lift the national minimum wage 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: to just under twenty five dollars an hour. That's nine 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: hundred and forty eight dollars a week. 48 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: What's the flow on effect of this, sean, because you 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that this is affecting millions of people, 50 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: what are the economic implications of the decision. 51 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: So the big issue when we have these decisions is 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: something called the wage price spiral. The idea if wages 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 2: increase too much, then small business lawyers will up prices 54 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: to pay for those wages. That's always the issue. Economists 55 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: generally think that this particular increase three and a half 56 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: percent is about right. It won't trigger higher inflation. Now. 57 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four the increase was three points sevent 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, it was five point seventy five percent. 59 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: They were both consistent with higher inflation then and they 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: didn't trigger a wage price spiral. This three and a 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: half percent obviously lower than the last two years, so 62 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 2: plenty of confidence about that. While the decision directly effects 63 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: about twenty one percent of the workforce. Most of them 64 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: are low paid. They tend to spend the money they 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: get and that's why it is a real boost to 66 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: the economy. The other interesting fact might be twenty one 67 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: percent of the workforce, but it's just eleven percent of 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: the national wages bill because they are low paid. But 69 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: if we're going to give money to people that need it, 70 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: such as low paid workers, this is a great way 71 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: to do it. 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Okay, Sean the Reserve Bank plenty of news out of 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the Reserve Bank yesterday. The RBA is worried about the 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: on again, off again Donald Trump tariffs, saying that it 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: could actually prompt consumers to rain in spending and force 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: businesses to shelve hiring and investment planned. 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank of Australia Chief economist Sarah Hunter says it's 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: possible an escalation in the trade war or a deterioration 79 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: in the global economy could end up with a fresh 80 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: sell off in financial markets, particularly equity markets. She warns 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: that households and businesses are likely to become more cautious 82 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: as a result of Donald Trump's tariff threats. She was 83 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: talking yesterday just as the minutes of the Reserve Bank's 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: Board meeting of two weeks ago were released. Interestingly, in 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: those minutes, the RBA considered a zero point five percentage 86 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: point rate cut last month amid fees around these tariffs. 87 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: They also said that if tariffs are raised, then more 88 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: rate cuts are likely. So for those betting on more 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: rate cuts later in the year, yesterday minutes and the 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: comments from Sarah Hunter pretty much supports that argument. 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, taking a quick look at politics now, Sean, there's 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: still one seat undecided from the federal election which was 93 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: a month ago. Now Bradfield in Northern Sydney is very 94 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: very tight. 95 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: So about eighty five percent of the vote or the 96 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 2: recount has been done. Independent Nicolette Bowl is currently twenty 97 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: seven votes ahead of Liberal Gizell Capterian. Now remember after 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: the original count Gizell Capterian was eight votes in front 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: of Nicolett Bowl. Incredibly close. We hope to find out, 100 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: possibly tomorrow, who wins that seat of Bradfield. Of course, 101 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: it is a blue ribbon Liberal seat, has been for 102 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: years no longer. The other big news in federal politics 103 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: Derinda Cox, the Senator from Western Australia from the Greens 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: has defected to Labor Now. Anthony Alberanezi was talking about 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: it yesterday. He said that that defection shouldn't effect negotiations 106 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: between the two parties, particularly on the three million dollars 107 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 2: superannuation tax and other bills in Senate. He then went 108 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: on to sort of slap the Greens, suggesting that Drinder 109 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: Cox came across because the Greens party isn't in order, 110 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: so you know, on one hand, he said, we're still friends. 111 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: On the other he gave him a kick. However, big 112 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 2: news in terms of Drinder Cocks affecting. 113 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: It's always a slightly controversial decision whenever a senator defects 114 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: from one party to another, particularly halfway through a six 115 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: year term, because it essentially shifts the votes that have 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: elected that person from one party to another. And so 117 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: there's always a controversial one and always plenty of people 118 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: having that say about that one. Sean will take a 119 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: quick break before we do that. Tomorrow night is the 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: big event, first ever Fear and Greed Live podcast, our 121 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: live recording of the weekend edition. There are just a 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: couple of dozen tickets left available. We have we nearly 123 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: have a full house. It is going to be a 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: cracker of a night. It is free. If you're in 125 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Sydney and you'd like to come along, then please do it. 126 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Doubles with the launch of my new novel called All 127 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: the Perfect Days, which hit the shelves yesterday, and we're 128 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: going to have a really good time and we have 129 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: plenty of people that are great to meet as many 130 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: listeners as we possibly can, right absolutely, we want everyone 131 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: that wants to come please do. Not only do you 132 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: get to listen to the weekend edition, you get to 133 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: hear me interview Michael about his book, which I'm really 134 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. It'd be good fun. There is 135 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: a link in today's show notes if you would like 136 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: to book a free ticket. You can also find it 137 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: on event bright. All right, quick Breakshawan. We'll be back 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: in a moment with the rest of the day's business news. Sean. 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: There's been a major AI conference on with many CEOs 140 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: talking about the prospect of changes to major organizations on 141 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: the back of the technology. 142 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: It's been really interesting. The Australian Financial Review is hosting 143 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: the conference. Some of the highlights. Sun Court Group's Chief 144 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: Information Officer Adam Bennett said AI tools help the Brison 145 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: based ensure process thousands of claims around seven thousand after 146 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: the cyclone. After Cyclone Alfred wiped out power for thousands 147 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: of customers across the southeast corner of Queensland, Commonwealth Bank 148 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: boss Matt common He said the battle for AI talent 149 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: is really hot now. Recently Westpac poached CBA's head of AI. 150 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Telstra boss Vicky Brady was there. She says she expects 151 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: the telco's workforce will be smaller thanks to the impact 152 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: of AI, though she didn't exactly define how many jobs 153 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: will go. The point of the story it is clear 154 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: that the leaders of big corporates in Australia are very 155 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: focused on how AI can make their businesses more efficient. 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: Now that's certainly pretty blunt, isn't it About the impact 157 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: on jobs, The fact that you got to the Telstra 158 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: boss saying this is going to affect the workforce? Yep, 159 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: absolutely Now, the value of Australia's agricultural production as forecast 160 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: to be the third highest on record in twenty twenty 161 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: five twenty twenty six, but output outcomes resting on a 162 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: knife edge. That's a direct quote. In regions most susceptible 163 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: to rainfall. 164 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: Research from the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resources Economics 165 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: and Sciences forecast the total output across next financial year 166 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: will hit ninety seven and a half billion dollars. That 167 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: includes fisheries and forestries. A Bear's warns. While seasonal conditions 168 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: across some areas have prompted a strong start to the 169 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five twenty six wind cropping season, output in 170 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: other areas where winter crop's been dry so in places 171 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: like South Australia, Western Victoria southern New South Wales are 172 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: very susceptible to rainfall. ABAR said export values were expected 173 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: to fall by two point six billion dollars given lower 174 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: livestock and crop export volumes. 175 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: How about this one Sean Shares in IDP Education fell 176 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: by forty seven percent yesterday after the company said it 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: expected student placements to drop by up to thirty percent 178 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: this year as global trade uncertainty hurts its enrollment pipeline. 179 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: This was a share market daling for about six or 180 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: seven years. It went through the roof. Then there were 181 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: legislative changes in Australia and the UK, two of its 182 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: big markets, that really hurt its outlook. That the company 183 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: downgraded its earnings guidance yesterday for this financial year, announced 184 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: a firm wide review to improve productivity and costs. Company 185 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: used to be partly owned by the universities and seek. 186 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: It is still a preferred provider for English testing and 187 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: student placement. It's basically what it does. It teaches English 188 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 2: to many students. And when we had lots of students 189 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: coming over from places like Japan, India, China, IDP was 190 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: doing very well. That has slowed. Plus these legislative changes 191 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: has really hit the company forty seven percent one day. Ouch. 192 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a bad day for IDP education. What 193 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: about the rest of the local market. 194 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: The Australian share market rose zero point seven percent to 195 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: eighty four hundred and sixty seven points. The big banks 196 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 2: led away plenty of corporate news around more interesting ones. 197 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: Treasury Wine Estates fell after downgrading its earnings guidance, pointing 198 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: to lower than expected shipments. The Penfoles owner also said 199 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: one of its United States based distributors will cease operations 200 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: in California from September now. Treasury spent about two billion 201 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: dollars in recent years buying premium wine brands, most of 202 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: which is in the US, so the loss of that 203 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: distributor is bad news. The other one of fall, Domino's 204 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 2: fell after announcing a bunch of leadership changes within its 205 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 2: Japanese business. 206 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: And plenty going on in global markets too. 207 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: There is The Australian dollar was helped by weakness in 208 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: the US dollar as expectations for further interest rate cuts 209 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: and fears around the economic impact of US trade policy 210 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 2: hit the Green Bay OSI dollars buying just under sixty 211 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: five US cents. Gold jumped as investors look for safeer 212 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: assets after the US and China traded accusations. The prospect 213 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: of peace between Russia and Ukraine looks distant. That's helping 214 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: save for assets goals up twenty eight percent this year 215 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 2: after hitting a record high above the twenty five hundred 216 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: US dollars and ounce in April. And oil also climbed 217 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: after Opek plus increased production less than some had feared, 218 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: and geopolitical concerns flared in Ukraine and Iran turn. 219 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: Into international news. Sean and the story that we're all 220 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: waiting five. I've certainly been waiting for it. Millions of 221 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: bees escaped from an overturned truck in the US state 222 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: of Washington over the weekend, sparking warnings from authorities for 223 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: the public to avoid the swarm. You could probably hear 224 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: it from a mile imagine. 225 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: Emergency officials were helped by several master bee keepers. I 226 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: love that as a job title, A master. 227 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: A new life goal. 228 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: After the truck, which had been hauling roughy thirty two 229 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: thousand kilos of active honey bee hives, flipped over on 230 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: a road near the Canadian border, the goal immediately came 231 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 2: with the truck driver was oka, first, number one, second, 232 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: that's good goal, save as many bees as possible. The 233 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: County Sheriff's office initially said about two hundred and fifty 234 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 2: million two hundred and fifty million bees were loose, though 235 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: they downgraded that to closer to fourteen million bees. Still 236 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: a lot. The plan. 237 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang on. They downgraded it from 238 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million bees down to fourteen million bees. 239 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: So the other what two hundred and thirty six weren't 240 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: in the truck in the first I don't safe, I 241 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: don't ask me details, I do not know, I do 242 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: not know. 243 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: Sorry. The plan is to allow the bees to rehive 244 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: and find their queen bee which authorities reckon will take 245 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: kind of a day, two days, according to the BBC. 246 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: I think that's in itself pretty cool, is that there's 247 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: an accident, they get straight off course, but they will 248 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: find their queen bee. Now, basically bee keepers produce honey obviously, 249 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 2: but they're always rent Bees are often rented out to 250 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: farmers who need the insects to pollinate their crops. And 251 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: that's what this was going. Thirty two thousand kilas of 252 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: active honeybee hives. Let's hope they've all found their queen bee. 253 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, Like you can just imagine the operation to 254 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of capture them all. You'd have to set up 255 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: a massive sting. 256 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: Ah. Oh that really hurts. 257 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't my best, was it. 258 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: Okay? 259 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: Moving on, Sean your interview coming up after the show. 260 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: This is a cracker. I love this one because I 261 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: love anything about technology, and this is one that actually 262 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: has the potential to change. I don't want to overstate 263 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: it change the world, right, David Hoey. 264 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: Is the bottom I overstated it's got the potential to 265 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: change the world. It's an interesting go on, great chat. 266 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: David Hoey is the boss of Vaxes and this has 267 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: the technology that we're talking about here can revolutionize the 268 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: way humunizations are delivered around the world, and particularly in 269 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: poorer countries where they don't have refrigeration, and it could 270 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: save so many lives. So I'm very excited. I've mean 271 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: is it's a great interview. 272 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 2: So it's needle free vaccinations and as you said, one 273 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: of the big benefits is that it doesn't need to 274 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: be refrigerated, so vaccinations can be shared and heurled much easier. Anyway, 275 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: they're in early stage trials, we're not there yet, but 276 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: it's a great chat with David about where they're up to. 277 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: And I totally agree. It's one of my favorite chats 278 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: because it puts me totally ont of my comfort zone 279 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: talking about stuff I know nothing about and he just 280 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: explains it so well. 281 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might have gotten a little bit too excited 282 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: too early, but it is a good chat. And Vaxis works. 283 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: They do a lot of this development of their product 284 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: in Brisbane and we partner with the Brisbane Economic Development 285 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: Agency to talk to some of these companies. It is 286 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: a great conversation. It is coming up after the show, 287 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: so stick around for that one. Thanks very much, Sean. 288 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: Thank you Michael, it's. 289 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: Wednesday, the fourth of June twenty twenty five. I feel 290 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: like I've got taken by surprise by the end of 291 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: the show. 292 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: There. 293 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: Make sure you're following the podcast and please join us 294 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: online on LinkedIn, Instagram, ex TikTok and Facebook. I'm Michael Thompson. 295 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: That was Fear and Breed with the ether Agrade Day