1 00:00:00,409 --> 00:00:13,380 Speaker 1: This is Brownies Podcast! Welcome to. 2 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:17,450 Speaker 2: You're listening to Brownies Podcast. Oh, hey. Essential. 3 00:00:17,489 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, essential. Jonathan's here, Campbell's here, I'm here, Dino Brody's here. 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,900 Speaker 3: Back our internet person, our person of the internet. 5 00:00:23,980 --> 00:00:27,180 Speaker 4: We've been calling to an emergency meeting, an emergency podcast 6 00:00:27,220 --> 00:00:28,060 Speaker 4: on a Wednesday. 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,740 Speaker 3: Jesus, you're loud. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,860 Speaker 5: It's been a big week in football. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Yes. 10 00:00:31,180 --> 00:00:32,420 Speaker 5: It wouldn't hold till Friday. 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: No, for several reasons. Obviously, Adam Simpson, he's a smaller 12 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:39,020 Speaker 2: part of the story, but... Campbell Brown was mentioned by 13 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: Guy McKenna, his former coach of the Gold Coast Suns. 14 00:00:42,140 --> 00:00:44,020 Speaker 2: That's a big reason. Who found this audio? 15 00:00:44,060 --> 00:00:44,909 Speaker 3: Who found this audio? 16 00:00:45,010 --> 00:00:47,990 Speaker 4: It got clipped up by the SEN social team. 17 00:00:48,530 --> 00:00:50,490 Speaker 5: Yeah, they took great delight in it. 18 00:00:50,890 --> 00:00:52,110 Speaker 2: What did you first think? 19 00:00:52,130 --> 00:00:53,210 Speaker 5: I was worried. 20 00:00:53,510 --> 00:00:53,970 Speaker 2: You were worried? 21 00:00:54,030 --> 00:00:54,270 Speaker 6: Yeah. 22 00:00:54,290 --> 00:00:56,690 Speaker 2: When you heard that Guy McKenna was going on SEN 23 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:58,710 Speaker 2: to talk about his time in the Gold Coast Suns. 24 00:00:58,810 --> 00:01:00,980 Speaker 4: I was a bit worried because, look, you know, my 25 00:01:01,020 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: football did its talking up there, but my 14-week suspension 26 00:01:04,459 --> 00:01:10,490 Speaker 4: in three seasons, a couple of, off field indiscretions in Thailand. 27 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:13,230 Speaker 4: And then, you know, the way I unsacrimoniously got sacked 28 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:13,810 Speaker 4: by the club. 29 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,449 Speaker 5: I didn't know where I stood. 30 00:01:15,690 --> 00:01:19,970 Speaker 2: Un-sacrimoniously got sacked by the club. Was it un-sacrimoniously or un-ceremoniously? 31 00:01:20,630 --> 00:01:22,510 Speaker 2: You're on fire, John. 32 00:01:23,090 --> 00:01:27,050 Speaker 3: Un-sacrimoniously. We're definitely into this. 33 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:27,709 Speaker 2: Hell no. 34 00:01:27,730 --> 00:01:28,650 Speaker 3: We're definitely not, though. 35 00:01:28,670 --> 00:01:29,590 Speaker 2: Yeah, boys, I'm a bit nervous. 36 00:01:29,709 --> 00:01:30,030 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. 37 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:33,140 Speaker 2: Like my debut as a boxing commentator tonight. 38 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: Do you really? 39 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: Yes, on my way up to see Big Barry Hall, 40 00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: which we'll talk about. So that's going to be huge. 41 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: Hey, John, he's got to bring something tonight. 42 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 4: Yes. 43 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: That last one was not flash. 44 00:01:42,540 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: What did you like in a tooth? No, we can't... 45 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:46,430 Speaker 2: The presidential debate. 46 00:01:46,510 --> 00:01:48,530 Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, he was like Joe Biden in the debate. 47 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:50,590 Speaker 2: Against Tony Bill, yeah, he was. 48 00:01:50,650 --> 00:01:51,330 Speaker 3: Effective-less. 49 00:01:51,370 --> 00:01:52,330 Speaker 5: Yeah, he got belted. 50 00:01:52,550 --> 00:01:53,110 Speaker 3: Jesus. 51 00:01:53,130 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: Can you use the word rope-a-dope tonight on air? 52 00:01:56,580 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to do my best. I'm going to 53 00:01:58,180 --> 00:02:01,860 Speaker 2: have plenty of opportunity, so... I'm the new Gus Mercurio. 54 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,630 Speaker 2: But Gus Mercurio, remember him? Yeah. 55 00:02:04,650 --> 00:02:07,650 Speaker 3: So you're commentating this whole broadcast. I get pay-per-view. It's 56 00:02:07,670 --> 00:02:10,530 Speaker 3: like 69 bucks. And I'll hear my friend John commentate 57 00:02:10,570 --> 00:02:13,530 Speaker 3: how many fights? Five. Jesus. 58 00:02:13,570 --> 00:02:15,870 Speaker 2: Well, I'm on the panel and then I think I'm 59 00:02:15,910 --> 00:02:19,060 Speaker 2: commentating Big Baz versus Curtis Scott, who's a former Melbourne 60 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 2: Storm Premiership player. 61 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: And what are your credentials as a professional boxer? 62 00:02:22,260 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 3: Good question, Doug. 63 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,970 Speaker 2: I was knocked out three times at training. Yeah. No, well, 64 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:30,150 Speaker 2: my only claim to fame is my sister, Gabrielle. Oh, yeah. 65 00:02:30,169 --> 00:02:31,950 Speaker 2: She can box. Who's also a trauma nurse. 66 00:02:31,970 --> 00:02:32,250 Speaker 1: Gabs. 67 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:35,110 Speaker 2: How's this for irony? She's a trauma nurse, and she 68 00:02:35,130 --> 00:02:38,230 Speaker 2: won a Victorian state title. How good. In boxing. I 69 00:02:38,250 --> 00:02:40,330 Speaker 2: love boxing. You know, I've always been a fan. I 70 00:02:40,350 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 2: grew up as a huge boxing fan, but looking forward 71 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: to that, just because Baz is fighting, and obviously... We 72 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,460 Speaker 2: had a history, obviously, playing against each other. He was 73 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,210 Speaker 2: a fantastic player. But big news, isn't it? Adam Simpson 74 00:02:52,250 --> 00:02:54,429 Speaker 2: getting sacked. I'll tell you what, boys. It didn't have 75 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:55,950 Speaker 2: to be Nostradamus to work that out. 76 00:02:56,430 --> 00:02:58,549 Speaker 3: Well, when you look at the raw numbers, give me 77 00:02:58,590 --> 00:02:59,750 Speaker 3: that number. Give me that figure. 78 00:02:59,770 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: Well, he's won eight out of the last 64 games. Yeah. 79 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:06,420 Speaker 4: I mean, we were talking about this at the exact 80 00:03:06,460 --> 00:03:10,820 Speaker 4: time last year, and we're talking about West Coast Eagles 81 00:03:10,940 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: not being able to sack him because of the million-dollar-plus 82 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,140 Speaker 4: contract and the multiple years on his salary deal. 83 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: So they just got one more year out of it. 84 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,739 Speaker 5: They got one more year out. 85 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,620 Speaker 4: And I think West Coast Eagles progressed marginally this season. 86 00:03:25,650 --> 00:03:26,870 Speaker 4: I don't think they've gone backwards. 87 00:03:27,389 --> 00:03:29,389 Speaker 3: Jeez, we'd want two more wins, though, out of the year. 88 00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:31,790 Speaker 2: Yeah, on the back of Elliot Yeo and Harley Reid 89 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:35,270 Speaker 2: fired up there for two or three weeks. But, yeah, 90 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: like the last couple of weeks, you think– It's just... Well, 91 00:03:39,580 --> 00:03:41,750 Speaker 2: Simo has resigned. The fact that he brought his son 92 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,210 Speaker 2: to the Thursday press conference last week and he acknowledged 93 00:03:44,250 --> 00:03:46,510 Speaker 2: that this might be my last press conference and then 94 00:03:46,790 --> 00:03:48,990 Speaker 2: he was even more resigned after the loss to Melbourne 95 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: on Sunday. I thought he's gone. So I think when 96 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,660 Speaker 2: the record had been so bad and that club... It's 97 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,750 Speaker 2: a very powerful club. Proud as well. I can maybe 98 00:03:59,780 --> 00:04:02,290 Speaker 2: understand if it happened to a North Melbourne or a 99 00:04:02,350 --> 00:04:05,790 Speaker 2: struggling club who struggles financially, but this is the most powerful, 100 00:04:06,170 --> 00:04:11,150 Speaker 2: richest club in the land. They make money while they're sleeping. 101 00:04:11,870 --> 00:04:14,690 Speaker 2: For them to just decline so poorly and be at 102 00:04:14,730 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: the bottom for the best part of three years, you 103 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:21,409 Speaker 2: need some separations. And you need some clean air and 104 00:04:21,450 --> 00:04:25,130 Speaker 2: you need a new direction because clearly Simmo, no matter 105 00:04:25,170 --> 00:04:28,110 Speaker 2: how good he is tactically, clearly Simmo wasn't getting through 106 00:04:28,130 --> 00:04:28,650 Speaker 2: to the group. 107 00:04:29,010 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: And there were player unrest. That is factually correct. 108 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 4: There's been murmurings and clubs can say, oh, no, you know, 109 00:04:34,820 --> 00:04:36,300 Speaker 4: but there were player unrest. 110 00:04:36,380 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: Right. 111 00:04:38,330 --> 00:04:39,790 Speaker 5: I think it had just all come to a head. 112 00:04:39,810 --> 00:04:43,650 Speaker 2: The board blinked last year. So the CEO wanted him gone. 113 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: He wanted a clean space. They were cleaning house with 114 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,940 Speaker 2: most of the other people, the key football people there. 115 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: The last two games, right. And the board overrided apparently 116 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: Justin Langer. Yeah. Who's stuck fat and loyal man and 117 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,270 Speaker 2: obviously he'd have a close relationship with Adam Simpson. 118 00:04:57,290 --> 00:04:57,350 Speaker 7: He. 119 00:04:58,330 --> 00:05:00,590 Speaker 2: He's on the West Coast Eagles board and he was 120 00:05:00,650 --> 00:05:01,650 Speaker 2: keen for him to continue. 121 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: And the fact that Justin Langer went through the exact 122 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: same thing as well as a coach of the Australian 123 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: cricket team where the board listened to the players and 124 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:12,460 Speaker 4: they acted on him probably didn't sit in his. 125 00:05:12,339 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 5: Gut that well. So he went, no, hang on a second. 126 00:05:14,140 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 5: We don't answer to the players. We'll stick with our coach. 127 00:05:18,580 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: The last two games, Hawks and then Melbourne, full strength team. 128 00:05:21,500 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: A lot of excitement as a fan. And then it 129 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:26,909 Speaker 3: was just, we regressed back to that real dire time 130 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:29,620 Speaker 3: of last year. So I love Simmo. 131 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,340 Speaker 2: What is the fan thing? 132 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: Very grateful to Simmo for the time. 133 00:05:32,180 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 5: Premiership coach. 134 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: This is the right thing to do. Yeah. 135 00:05:34,700 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: Tell you what, I'm not sure about the send-off though. Oh, man. 136 00:05:38,060 --> 00:05:38,900 Speaker 3: We're going to unpack a lot. 137 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll unpack a lot. But the front page of 138 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:43,820 Speaker 2: the West Australian today, which is like the Herald Sun here. 139 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,810 Speaker 3: They're precks, man. 140 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:48,330 Speaker 2: Oh, jeez, that was brutal. So see you, Simmo, is 141 00:05:48,350 --> 00:05:50,029 Speaker 2: the headline. And then it's got his. 142 00:05:50,370 --> 00:05:51,170 Speaker 3: Bingo card. 143 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:53,729 Speaker 2: He's got a bingo card of his win losses. There 144 00:05:53,770 --> 00:05:54,310 Speaker 2: was a lot of great dicks. 145 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:54,909 Speaker 3: For the last three years. 146 00:05:55,529 --> 00:05:57,570 Speaker 5: Hell of a lot of Red Crossers. 147 00:05:57,730 --> 00:06:00,210 Speaker 2: For a premiership coach to be sent off in that manner. 148 00:06:00,230 --> 00:06:02,830 Speaker 2: So obviously there's a fair bit of history there. As 149 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:04,350 Speaker 2: we heard in the press conference, didn't we? 150 00:06:04,430 --> 00:06:06,290 Speaker 3: All right, so we'll get to this Woodcock guy. 151 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:09,489 Speaker 2: Who do you know? Mitch Woodcock. He turns up apparently 152 00:06:09,529 --> 00:06:12,779 Speaker 2: to every West Coast Eagles press conference. And has been 153 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: drilling Simo with questions for the. 154 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,380 Speaker 5: Last few years. He's a hard journo. Trying to keep 155 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:17,050 Speaker 5: him accountable. 156 00:06:17,150 --> 00:06:19,030 Speaker 3: You journos, get your hand off it. Do you know 157 00:06:19,050 --> 00:06:21,630 Speaker 3: what I don't understand with you pricks? You're always going 158 00:06:21,650 --> 00:06:23,630 Speaker 3: to be first to break the story. That's just the 159 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:26,510 Speaker 3: stupid little contest you're in. The greater football public don't 160 00:06:26,529 --> 00:06:29,510 Speaker 3: remember who broke a story first. And it makes you assholes. 161 00:06:29,860 --> 00:06:32,859 Speaker 3: It makes you be not good people to get the 162 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:33,460 Speaker 3: first story. 163 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,990 Speaker 5: First is good if it is accurate and correct. It's 164 00:06:38,029 --> 00:06:39,130 Speaker 5: no good being first if you're wrong. 165 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:41,190 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you the public don't care who broke 166 00:06:41,230 --> 00:06:41,609 Speaker 3: it first. 167 00:06:41,770 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: No, but your job as a journo is to get information. 168 00:06:45,740 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: But your competitiveness is causing you to act like pricks. 169 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:51,380 Speaker 2: But that's because we live in the age of clickbait. 170 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:53,339 Speaker 3: But you don't have to do that. 171 00:06:53,380 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 5: You have to be accurate. 172 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:55,979 Speaker 3: You don't have to be a McClure wanker type. 173 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 4: That's why when I say that Dean Cox is going 174 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,900 Speaker 4: to coach the West Coast Eagles next year, you can 175 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:01,860 Speaker 4: take it as gospel. 176 00:07:02,380 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 3: We're going to get to Woodcock. But let's just see 177 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: how this thing started. So Don Pike, man, I don't 178 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,060 Speaker 3: think you've read the book. 179 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:07,609 Speaker 5: They weren't aligned. 180 00:07:08,230 --> 00:07:10,630 Speaker 3: No, they weren't aligned. He starts it off like a 181 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: jovial 21st speech. He's just put a bullet in Simmo. 182 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:17,860 Speaker 3: He has to sit there. Just listen to the way 183 00:07:18,180 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 3: I'm full cringing when I hear this. 184 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,620 Speaker 7: What to say about Adam as coach of that footy club? 185 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 7: I first met Adam in 2014 as an energetic, passionate 186 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:32,170 Speaker 7: coach coming across to take the club for the first time. 187 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:37,270 Speaker 7: I was a an old retired player slash wannabe coach, 188 00:07:37,370 --> 00:07:38,410 Speaker 7: and joined Simo. 189 00:07:38,430 --> 00:07:42,309 Speaker 3: Simo, Pikey's going for this jovial, and Simo's going, put 190 00:07:42,410 --> 00:07:46,030 Speaker 3: a bullet in my head. This sucks. 191 00:07:46,070 --> 00:07:48,330 Speaker 7: And that hasn't changed over his time. 192 00:07:48,430 --> 00:07:50,030 Speaker 3: You can hear Simo throughout it going. 193 00:07:51,390 --> 00:07:53,929 Speaker 2: Oh, no, he's cringy. I'm not sure about that, Pikey. 194 00:07:53,970 --> 00:07:54,750 Speaker 3: Cringe, cringe, cringe. 195 00:07:54,910 --> 00:08:00,869 Speaker 2: And he was. Ironically, Pikey was. He started his AFL career. Sorry, 196 00:08:00,910 --> 00:08:03,830 Speaker 2: his post-AFL career. To get back in, he made his 197 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:05,570 Speaker 2: money in mining or whatever it was and wanted to 198 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:09,660 Speaker 2: get back into football. He was Simo's assistant coach at 199 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,100 Speaker 2: the West Coast Eagles at the start. 200 00:08:11,420 --> 00:08:12,860 Speaker 3: All right, but this is the big one before we 201 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:17,390 Speaker 3: get to Woodcock. When Simo and Don Pike goes... It 202 00:08:17,570 --> 00:08:20,540 Speaker 3: infers that it's going to be a great send-off for Simmo. 203 00:08:20,690 --> 00:08:23,380 Speaker 3: Coach one more game. This is bad, man. 204 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,700 Speaker 7: We've requested that Adam to consider coaching the side for 205 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,700 Speaker 7: one final time this weekend. So as much as today 206 00:08:30,020 --> 00:08:32,420 Speaker 7: is the announcement of the finish, we'd love Adam to 207 00:08:32,460 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 7: coach one more time come the weekend. Obviously, a significant 208 00:08:35,660 --> 00:08:39,210 Speaker 7: event this weekend with Liam Ryan's 100th. With that said, 209 00:08:39,590 --> 00:08:40,290 Speaker 7: I'll hand over to Adam. 210 00:08:40,429 --> 00:08:40,890 Speaker 2: Thanks very much. 211 00:08:41,410 --> 00:08:43,089 Speaker 8: Yeah, we haven't made that call just yet, Pike, if 212 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:43,970 Speaker 8: I was going to coach. 213 00:08:43,770 --> 00:08:45,910 Speaker 2: This week, but... We'd like you to. 214 00:08:45,929 --> 00:08:46,150 Speaker 9: Yeah. 215 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:48,290 Speaker 3: Thanks, mate. Oh, my goodness. 216 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:50,070 Speaker 2: We'd like you to. I know. 217 00:08:50,090 --> 00:08:52,860 Speaker 5: Don't do this in front of people, you dick. 218 00:08:52,910 --> 00:08:53,660 Speaker 3: Yeah. 219 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,340 Speaker 2: How is that not spoken about and not confirmed? Where's 220 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:56,939 Speaker 2: the dignity? 221 00:08:57,460 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: Mate. 222 00:08:57,940 --> 00:09:00,939 Speaker 2: Simo wasn't too happy with that. I'd be surprised, actually, 223 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: if he coached on Sunday. I just think there's too 224 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: much ill will. 225 00:09:04,059 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 5: I think it'd be nice, though. 226 00:09:05,660 --> 00:09:06,460 Speaker 2: I think it'd be nice. 227 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: It would be nice, but it's up to him. 228 00:09:08,660 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up to you. But I think he's certainly 229 00:09:11,140 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: scarred by the experience. Don Pike's... press conference there, or 230 00:09:15,179 --> 00:09:17,290 Speaker 2: his performance in the press conference reminds me of his 231 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:21,390 Speaker 2: press conference after the disastrous camp scenario. Remember for the 232 00:09:21,470 --> 00:09:22,089 Speaker 2: Adelaide Crows? 233 00:09:22,110 --> 00:09:22,770 Speaker 3: Guantanamo Bay. 234 00:09:22,830 --> 00:09:23,170 Speaker 2: Yeah. 235 00:09:23,190 --> 00:09:24,210 Speaker 3: Guantanamo Bay. 236 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:27,710 Speaker 2: Gitmo, gitmo. Yeah. Before he had to front the media. Yeah. 237 00:09:27,770 --> 00:09:29,170 Speaker 2: And he butchered that as well, so. 238 00:09:29,210 --> 00:09:31,730 Speaker 3: Notice he tried to sneak in Liam Ryan's hundredth to 239 00:09:31,770 --> 00:09:32,130 Speaker 3: sort of like. 240 00:09:32,309 --> 00:09:32,830 Speaker 2: I know. 241 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:33,309 Speaker 3: What was that? 242 00:09:33,330 --> 00:09:34,190 Speaker 2: A bit of a diversion. 243 00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:34,850 Speaker 3: What was that? 244 00:09:34,890 --> 00:09:35,590 Speaker 2: Yeah, a diversion. 245 00:09:35,610 --> 00:09:37,350 Speaker 6: I think it's time that we take Mikey away from 246 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:39,890 Speaker 6: the media facing him. I think he's better up behind 247 00:09:39,929 --> 00:09:41,390 Speaker 6: the scenes than he is front and back. 248 00:09:41,450 --> 00:09:42,890 Speaker 3: Stick to the hot coals, you psycho. 249 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:43,949 Speaker 2: Yeah. 250 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it? 251 00:09:46,250 --> 00:09:51,460 Speaker 4: It's just every single coach, if they coach long enough, 252 00:09:52,140 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: doesn't matter how great you are, Bill. 253 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,770 Speaker 5: Belichick just got the bullet, right? They all get sacked. 254 00:09:56,850 --> 00:09:59,770 Speaker 4: You hang around until you get sacked unless you are 255 00:09:59,790 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: a coach genius like Paul Roos that takes a job 256 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,270 Speaker 4: as an interim for three or four years and then 257 00:10:07,330 --> 00:10:07,870 Speaker 4: walks away. 258 00:10:08,850 --> 00:10:10,209 Speaker 5: Dignity intact. 259 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:10,690 Speaker 2: Yes, yes. 260 00:10:11,150 --> 00:10:13,460 Speaker 5: And then other clubs go, hang on, yeah, Paul Roos, 261 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 5: we might get him again, right? You're always another chance. 262 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,819 Speaker 5: That's the best way to do it. 263 00:10:18,940 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: That's a good point. 264 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,349 Speaker 3: Let's get to Woodcock. So you can hear Woodcock's question. 265 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:25,390 Speaker 3: The audio is not great, but he says something to 266 00:10:25,410 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: the effect of, When did you know the time was up? 267 00:10:27,450 --> 00:10:27,590 Speaker 9: Yeah. 268 00:10:27,610 --> 00:10:31,490 Speaker 2: Can I just give you some context here? So obviously we're, 269 00:10:31,870 --> 00:10:36,069 Speaker 2: most of us are in Victoria, but in WA, there's 270 00:10:36,110 --> 00:10:40,740 Speaker 2: always been this undertone of frustration from the media and 271 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,059 Speaker 2: from people in general, because you can't access the West 272 00:10:43,100 --> 00:10:45,579 Speaker 2: Coast Eagles. They're so powerful. They're one of the most 273 00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: powerful organizations in that state. So the access they give 274 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,930 Speaker 2: to the outside world, including the journalist, is quite limited 275 00:10:54,050 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: in the access to the players. So, it's a source 276 00:10:56,420 --> 00:10:59,300 Speaker 2: of great frustration. And obviously it comes out in the media. 277 00:10:59,780 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: And Mitch Woodcock has obviously been like a dog with 278 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,459 Speaker 2: a bone and he has tried to hold Adam Simpson 279 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: to account. over the last three years and essentially asking 280 00:11:08,540 --> 00:11:10,660 Speaker 2: the questions that the public want to know. So you 281 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: can see why Simo, maybe not as, uh, warm towards Mitch. 282 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: But also notice everyone else in the room, not a 283 00:11:17,059 --> 00:11:18,459 Speaker 3: lot of warmth for Woodcock. 284 00:11:18,780 --> 00:11:25,590 Speaker 2: No, bloody Woodcock. Have a listen. Um, probably your 300th article. 285 00:11:25,650 --> 00:11:26,050 Speaker 6: Woodcock. 286 00:11:27,270 --> 00:11:38,429 Speaker 5: Um, Snaps on. 287 00:11:38,630 --> 00:11:41,070 Speaker 3: Snaps on. 288 00:11:41,150 --> 00:11:44,450 Speaker 8: Not really. It's what, you know, and you guys can 289 00:11:44,490 --> 00:11:47,090 Speaker 8: be cruel sometimes, really. I mean, you've got to keep 290 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:50,230 Speaker 8: that in check because we're human and we have families. 291 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:54,330 Speaker 8: So you want more access to our players. Treat them 292 00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:58,540 Speaker 8: with a bit more respect would be a good start. But, 293 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 8: you know, you've got to do your job as well. 294 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 5: And look, they're good words, but you. 295 00:12:03,460 --> 00:12:06,179 Speaker 4: When you've got a public profile in anything in life, 296 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: in particular in a state that's obsessed with football, you've 297 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: got to take the good with the bad. So when 298 00:12:11,780 --> 00:12:13,700 Speaker 4: he was winning the premiership and he was getting lauded 299 00:12:13,740 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: by everyone as a genius, you then need to take 300 00:12:18,100 --> 00:12:20,700 Speaker 4: the wax when you're not going as well. And I 301 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: think sometimes in the press, people only want to take 302 00:12:25,710 --> 00:12:28,890 Speaker 4: all the positives out of their profile and all that 303 00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:30,490 Speaker 4: sort of stuff. And then as soon as they get 304 00:12:30,530 --> 00:12:33,369 Speaker 4: caught drink driving or they get something goes wrong and 305 00:12:33,390 --> 00:12:35,990 Speaker 4: there's a bad article about them, they crack the shits. 306 00:12:36,070 --> 00:12:39,140 Speaker 2: Dog butt. We all know that. Speaking from great experience. 307 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: No shit. We all know that that balance is out 308 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: of whack. The good stories are here. The bad stories 309 00:12:44,820 --> 00:12:48,329 Speaker 3: are up here because rage makes money. That's why they're pricks. 310 00:12:48,890 --> 00:12:51,010 Speaker 3: That's why you two, your industry. 311 00:12:51,050 --> 00:12:51,270 Speaker 2: Yes. 312 00:12:52,220 --> 00:12:55,860 Speaker 5: Sometimes you get caught up and you forget. 313 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:00,059 Speaker 4: You take sides and you get upset when there's a 314 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,030 Speaker 4: bad article about the person. But for the last two years, 315 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:06,690 Speaker 4: they've promoted their business and they've got in the social 316 00:13:06,730 --> 00:13:08,630 Speaker 4: pages and they've got invited to all these events and 317 00:13:08,830 --> 00:13:11,070 Speaker 4: they've been happy to take all the positives. I'm not 318 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: just talking about Adam Simpson. I'm talking about influencers and 319 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: people of profile across the board. And then they do 320 00:13:19,059 --> 00:13:21,459 Speaker 4: something wrong or a business goes broke or whatever it 321 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,950 Speaker 4: is and they cop the bad article and all of 322 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:25,590 Speaker 4: a sudden they hate the media. 323 00:13:25,610 --> 00:13:28,410 Speaker 3: But you must admit the bad is bigger than the 324 00:13:28,470 --> 00:13:29,949 Speaker 3: good because it makes more money. 325 00:13:30,250 --> 00:13:33,069 Speaker 2: Of course. See, you seem to be, as an Eagles fan, 326 00:13:33,490 --> 00:13:35,870 Speaker 2: and there would have been no greater person frustrated with 327 00:13:35,890 --> 00:13:36,950 Speaker 2: the form than you. 328 00:13:36,970 --> 00:13:37,429 Speaker 3: It's bad. 329 00:13:37,510 --> 00:13:39,910 Speaker 2: You seem to more side with the Adam Simpson, the 330 00:13:39,970 --> 00:13:43,270 Speaker 2: good Adam Simpson, than what Mitch Woodcock's tried to focus 331 00:13:43,330 --> 00:13:44,189 Speaker 2: on the last three years. 332 00:13:44,630 --> 00:13:47,790 Speaker 3: Well, my point is I'm happy for Simo. I love him, 333 00:13:48,010 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: but ready to go. Like, it's 11 years. We've got 334 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:50,460 Speaker 3: a flag. 335 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 5: They cooked the books. They paid all their senior players 336 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,340 Speaker 5: far too much money. They weren't on the track. 337 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:56,340 Speaker 2: They were underperforming. 338 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,100 Speaker 5: And they f * * * ed the next generation 339 00:13:58,140 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 5: of the West Coast Eagles after the flag. It's as 340 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 5: simple as that. 341 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:01,219 Speaker 2: It was mismanagement. 342 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:01,660 Speaker 3: Bad business. 343 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,569 Speaker 2: To its highest degree. 344 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,550 Speaker 4: That's not just Simo. That's across the whole footy department. 345 00:14:05,929 --> 00:14:07,850 Speaker 4: I've got a question for you. What was the more 346 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:11,660 Speaker 4: challenging press conference for Simo? Was it the press conference 347 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,100 Speaker 4: yesterday where they announced he's sacking? Or when he had 348 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,190 Speaker 4: to front the press about being the responsible party for 349 00:14:20,210 --> 00:14:20,890 Speaker 4: the rubber chicken? 350 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:23,820 Speaker 2: Back in his North Melbourne playing days. I remember the 351 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,420 Speaker 2: moment you did. When he was the captain of the 352 00:14:25,460 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: club when that all happened. Yeah. 353 00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:27,900 Speaker 3: Mate, Chicken Gate. 354 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: Remember that? Chicken Gate. 355 00:14:29,580 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: Take us through it again. What happened again? There was 356 00:14:31,220 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 3: a rubber chalk. 357 00:14:31,540 --> 00:14:34,420 Speaker 4: There was some sexually explicit acts going on towards the 358 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: rubber chicken. 359 00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: Horseplay. Yeah, it was horseplay by the boys trying to 360 00:14:37,220 --> 00:14:39,820 Speaker 2: entertain themselves, which you do in footy club land. Yeah. 361 00:14:39,860 --> 00:14:42,580 Speaker 2: And they were filming it, and obviously for their own humour, 362 00:14:42,940 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: and it got out publicly. And he was the captain 363 00:14:45,380 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: of the club and seemed to be the responsible party, 364 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: so he's had to front the press. 365 00:14:49,340 --> 00:14:54,810 Speaker 3: If you can't make love to a rubber chicken, then 366 00:14:54,890 --> 00:14:56,030 Speaker 3: the terrorists have won, Campbell. 367 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:58,690 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you've got to sit there and you've got 368 00:14:58,710 --> 00:15:01,490 Speaker 4: to apologise for some of the sexually explicit acts of 369 00:15:01,870 --> 00:15:02,630 Speaker 4: the rubber chicken. 370 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:05,090 Speaker 5: I think we've lost our way a little bit as 371 00:15:05,150 --> 00:15:05,590 Speaker 5: a society. 372 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: I liken it to when Fev got photographed with a 373 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:12,180 Speaker 4: dildo on him around Fed Square. 374 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 5: Why can't you be doing that? 375 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,860 Speaker 3: Just think of Fev in your head. He was wearing 376 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:19,460 Speaker 3: a dress. He had like a Sunday hat on. And 377 00:15:19,540 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 3: a 12-inch cock. 378 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,380 Speaker 5: Do you know what? 379 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:23,180 Speaker 3: It's iconic. 380 00:15:23,220 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: And it was purple. 381 00:15:24,780 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: Was it? It was purple. 382 00:15:26,140 --> 00:15:27,340 Speaker 5: It's just iconic image. 383 00:15:27,580 --> 00:15:31,490 Speaker 4: You know, like there's Feb winning the Coleman and there's that. 384 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:32,490 Speaker 5: They're the great images. 385 00:15:32,570 --> 00:15:34,510 Speaker 3: All right, so Dean Cox, I think he's the man 386 00:15:34,530 --> 00:15:37,470 Speaker 3: because he's absorbed all the magic of John Longmire for 387 00:15:37,530 --> 00:15:38,430 Speaker 3: over a decade. 388 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:42,210 Speaker 5: And he's got a really strong relationship with Don Pike, obviously. 389 00:15:42,290 --> 00:15:43,390 Speaker 2: They coach together at Sydney. 390 00:15:43,410 --> 00:15:46,050 Speaker 4: They reckon he's got a great footy mind. Yeah, I know, 391 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:48,050 Speaker 4: but last year was 12 months ago. 392 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,140 Speaker 2: A lot can happen in 12 months. 393 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:53,590 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 394 00:15:53,730 --> 00:15:56,350 Speaker 2: You know? No, I think they made him highly, you know, 395 00:15:56,410 --> 00:16:00,190 Speaker 2: our insiders, our West Coast connection. Come on. They'll rate 396 00:16:00,250 --> 00:16:02,030 Speaker 2: Dean Cox the coach. They think he'll be the next coach. 397 00:16:02,050 --> 00:16:04,930 Speaker 5: I think he's just bought a Hungry Jacks, though. 398 00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:07,090 Speaker 3: In Sydney. In Sydney? 399 00:16:07,110 --> 00:16:09,470 Speaker 4: Yeah, because we know Adam Simpson's got a couple of 400 00:16:09,490 --> 00:16:10,530 Speaker 4: Hungry Jacks in Perth. 401 00:16:10,590 --> 00:16:12,330 Speaker 5: I think Dean Cox has just bought a Hungry Jacks 402 00:16:12,370 --> 00:16:13,190 Speaker 5: in Sydney. 403 00:16:13,230 --> 00:16:15,330 Speaker 2: Well, maybe they could trade. You would have thought Adam 404 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:17,270 Speaker 2: Simpson would be well sought after as a coach because 405 00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:19,470 Speaker 2: they do say he's a tactical genius and his ability 406 00:16:19,490 --> 00:16:22,470 Speaker 2: to sum up the situation in a game and make 407 00:16:22,510 --> 00:16:24,790 Speaker 2: a move or set the game up correctly, they said, 408 00:16:25,230 --> 00:16:28,830 Speaker 2: Second to none. Remember the web? The West Coast web. 409 00:16:28,850 --> 00:16:31,570 Speaker 2: When we won the flag. Jared loved that. He came 410 00:16:31,630 --> 00:16:33,250 Speaker 2: up with that, no doubt about it. But I think 411 00:16:33,290 --> 00:16:36,010 Speaker 2: Simo and Bucks. Simo and Bucks would be the two 412 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:37,770 Speaker 2: most sought after. You would have thought once the dust 413 00:16:37,810 --> 00:16:40,870 Speaker 2: settles in a year or two's time. I think Bucks 414 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,910 Speaker 2: is under the pump now. He's getting chased by the Cubs. 415 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:46,530 Speaker 2: But I think those two would be– they're certainly records 416 00:16:46,550 --> 00:16:49,150 Speaker 2: would be intact. People would only remember the good part. 417 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:49,710 Speaker 3: Of course. 418 00:16:50,290 --> 00:16:52,070 Speaker 4: And he could use this as a real positive. For 419 00:16:52,070 --> 00:16:54,410 Speaker 4: 11 years as a senior coach, especially the last few 420 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:56,510 Speaker 4: when you've been under the pump every week, you'd be 421 00:16:56,530 --> 00:17:00,460 Speaker 4: that mentally drained, take your million-dollar payout, take the family 422 00:17:00,500 --> 00:17:02,460 Speaker 4: on a holiday to Europe, go away for nine months, 423 00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:05,139 Speaker 4: completely freshen up, and come back for 2026. 424 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 5: Get a facial tat. 425 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 6: Yes. 426 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 2: Is it called gardening leave? Gardening leave. It's called gardening leave. 427 00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: So you're going to get out in the garden. 428 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: Get over to France and the beautiful gardens over there. 429 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,340 Speaker 3: One thing about Simmo, despite having a record of eight 430 00:17:21,420 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 3: out of 64, Jesus Christ, he never really wigged out 431 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,310 Speaker 3: at the media. Even that Woodcock moment was pretty leveled. 432 00:17:29,030 --> 00:17:31,090 Speaker 3: He never did a, A lot of coaches have gone 433 00:17:31,130 --> 00:17:32,430 Speaker 3: weird in front of that microphone. 434 00:17:32,450 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. You fired up one day, our man, or 435 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: your man, Ben Dixon, former Hawthorne player as well. Your 436 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:39,620 Speaker 2: best friend. 437 00:17:39,740 --> 00:17:40,940 Speaker 3: Oh, that's right. 438 00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:44,050 Speaker 2: Simo was doing a– sorry, not Simo. Digo was, for Fox, 439 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:47,350 Speaker 2: his commentary, doing the pregame. I think West Coast were 440 00:17:47,369 --> 00:17:49,890 Speaker 2: in town to play Adelaide. And because there's a cricket 441 00:17:49,910 --> 00:17:53,470 Speaker 2: pitch there at Adelaide Oval, well, he was doing like 442 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:55,250 Speaker 2: a pitch report with a cricket bat, just having a 443 00:17:55,260 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: bit of fun in the pregame. Well, Adam Simpson saw 444 00:17:57,980 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: it from a distance and Simo misconstrued it as he 445 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: thought Dicko was having a crack at the Eagles for 446 00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: being flat track bullies. Really? 447 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:07,940 Speaker 5: Because they'd had an ordinary road record the. 448 00:18:07,740 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 2: Previous few weeks. 449 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:09,219 Speaker 3: Is there a chance? 450 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 5: That's a long bow to throw. 451 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: But Simo's just seen it from a distance and gone over. 452 00:18:14,380 --> 00:18:15,659 Speaker 2: And given Dick O'Spray. 453 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 5: Love that. 454 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:18,580 Speaker 3: Is there a chance Dick O' was doing that flat 455 00:18:18,619 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: track thing or not? 456 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,540 Speaker 2: Probably was. Probably was. But, yeah, so you see, it 457 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,260 Speaker 2: had bubbled to the surface from time to time. And 458 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: they had history together at Hawthorne. 459 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:28,220 Speaker 3: All right. 460 00:18:28,290 --> 00:18:32,310 Speaker 4: Well, the other big news is Brownlow Medal, a little 461 00:18:32,670 --> 00:18:37,260 Speaker 4: potential favourite, was Isaac Heaney, who'd had a– A less 462 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,050 Speaker 4: a month. He'll be leading the Brownlow come round 10. 463 00:18:41,050 --> 00:18:42,869 Speaker 4: So I'd started to sit on him a bit and 464 00:18:42,930 --> 00:18:44,890 Speaker 4: Goulden and Warner started to get off the chain a bit. 465 00:18:44,930 --> 00:18:47,409 Speaker 4: But he copped a week. They took it to the 466 00:18:47,450 --> 00:18:50,830 Speaker 4: tribunal and it was upheld. Did you agree with it? 467 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: I would have liked him to have got off. The 468 00:18:54,060 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 2: blood nose was going to kill him. Yeah, that hurt him. Yeah, 469 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,379 Speaker 2: that hurt him every time. So they had that usually 470 00:18:58,420 --> 00:19:01,020 Speaker 2: in the rule. But I think they need to rewrite 471 00:19:01,060 --> 00:19:03,460 Speaker 2: the rule, this whole rule about what's in play and 472 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: what's out of play. Because I really think these things 473 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,140 Speaker 2: where players are trying to separate or close space should 474 00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:10,859 Speaker 2: be classes in play. 475 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:14,340 Speaker 4: You start doing that, though, 30, 40 metres off the ball. 476 00:19:14,740 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you do. But it's all part of football. It's 477 00:19:17,340 --> 00:19:19,570 Speaker 2: not off the ball action. So I think they need 478 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:23,050 Speaker 2: to rewrite the rule there. There was just, unfortunately, not 479 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,570 Speaker 2: enough wriggle room, the way the rule had been written, 480 00:19:26,270 --> 00:19:29,410 Speaker 2: for him to get off. So, unfortunately, if he loses 481 00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:32,190 Speaker 2: a Brownlow medal, he'll go down like some other players. 482 00:19:32,350 --> 00:19:34,530 Speaker 2: I think Corey McKernan was one that could have won 483 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:35,230 Speaker 2: a Brownlow medal. 484 00:19:35,250 --> 00:19:35,730 Speaker 6: Chris Grant. 485 00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:38,050 Speaker 2: They need to change the qualifications. Thank you, Brodie. Chris Grant. 486 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:40,290 Speaker 2: They need to change the qualifications of the Brownlow. I 487 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:43,490 Speaker 2: still like the fairest element, but they need to bring 488 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:46,409 Speaker 2: it more in line with 2024 standards. Because otherwise, a 489 00:19:46,430 --> 00:19:50,300 Speaker 2: lot of Brantley mentalists, if they were playing today's current 490 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,260 Speaker 2: rules and standards with the video and all that sort 491 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: of stuff, they wouldn't have won a Brantley. 492 00:19:54,740 --> 00:19:58,469 Speaker 3: Okay, hold that thought back after this. Welcome back to 493 00:19:58,490 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: Brownies Podcast. Every year we have this damn chat when 494 00:20:02,170 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: someone gets suspended that's looking good to win the Brownlow. 495 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,139 Speaker 3: We always go to the argument, should that rule be outlawed? 496 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:12,860 Speaker 3: If you punch someone, can you still win, Chas? 497 00:20:13,260 --> 00:20:15,540 Speaker 6: I couldn't care less. If you get suspended for 10 498 00:20:15,540 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 6: weeks for knocking a bloke out but still poll the 499 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,780 Speaker 6: most votes in the remaining 12 games. 500 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 5: You're not the fairest. 501 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,929 Speaker 3: I don't care at all. 502 00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:22,620 Speaker 6: You should win the Brownlow medal. You're the best player. 503 00:20:22,660 --> 00:20:24,739 Speaker 2: But isn't it unique to our game, though? Because you've 504 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 2: got media awards and all that sort of stuff. I 505 00:20:26,460 --> 00:20:29,100 Speaker 2: think it's a unique award. It's great prestige. 506 00:20:29,140 --> 00:20:32,050 Speaker 3: This is just like when the grand final rule happened. 507 00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:34,970 Speaker 3: If there's a draw, we get another grand final. It's unique. 508 00:20:35,010 --> 00:20:36,930 Speaker 3: In theory, it's great. It f * * * ing sucked. 509 00:20:36,970 --> 00:20:38,780 Speaker 3: We all remember that. We've got to get rid of this. 510 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,379 Speaker 4: And I got a message just on Monday afternoon, actually, 511 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,830 Speaker 4: from Luke, who's an avid listener of the show, saying, 512 00:20:45,390 --> 00:20:47,300 Speaker 4: Pointsbet is starting to speak too much again. 513 00:20:48,900 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: Just monitor his mic, please. 514 00:20:50,340 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: For some reason, that light's on. 515 00:20:51,900 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 6: Do you know how many people messaged me? I'm going 516 00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:55,070 Speaker 6: to play some on Monday, but do you know how 517 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:56,930 Speaker 6: many people messaged me when they heard that you were commentating? 518 00:20:56,970 --> 00:20:59,409 Speaker 6: I've got a lot of mates that are Saints fans. 519 00:20:59,530 --> 00:21:00,990 Speaker 6: I swear to God, I can get it right now. 520 00:21:01,290 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 6: And the commentary was absolutely savage. 521 00:21:03,700 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: Really? 522 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 6: I'm going to get one now. 523 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: Please. 524 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,219 Speaker 6: I'm going to get one right now. 525 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,219 Speaker 3: So this is some real-life feedback. Are you ready for it? 526 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the opposite of what I was told 527 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: by Chris Jones when he rang me during the podcast. 528 00:21:13,020 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's right, yes. So how did you go? 529 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 6: Ready? 530 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really positive. 531 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,859 Speaker 6: This is just one. How quick was that? This is 532 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,340 Speaker 6: just one. 533 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,899 Speaker 2: Ready? Oh, shit. 534 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,169 Speaker 3: Not f * * * ing Campbell, man. 535 00:21:28,530 --> 00:21:29,889 Speaker 5: Is that before the game or after? 536 00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:31,730 Speaker 6: That's as soon as he heard that you were commentating. 537 00:21:31,770 --> 00:21:33,470 Speaker 6: It's not Campbell. 538 00:21:33,619 --> 00:21:36,100 Speaker 4: No, I believe that after the game, he might have 539 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,050 Speaker 4: sent a message back saying, what a great job. 540 00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: No, I don't. 541 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,700 Speaker 5: This is savage. 542 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: But then we'll play the bluey thing. 543 00:21:44,140 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the only person I give a f * * * 544 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 4: about is the boss of seven, who is delighted with 545 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:49,860 Speaker 4: my commentary. 546 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,340 Speaker 3: Brodie, this is a savage attack on your friend Campbell. 547 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:54,899 Speaker 3: He went me, so I know. 548 00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:57,260 Speaker 4: This is like the Russian missile that hit the children's 549 00:21:57,300 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: hospital overnight. 550 00:21:58,580 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: It's not. Preempted. All right. John, this is spicy. 551 00:22:03,310 --> 00:22:04,290 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I'm liking this. 552 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:06,530 Speaker 5: You'd better hurry up, mate, otherwise the potty only goes 553 00:22:06,550 --> 00:22:07,189 Speaker 5: for 30 minutes, you f * *. 554 00:22:07,070 --> 00:22:07,330 Speaker 3: * ing idiot. 555 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:08,609 Speaker 6: Well, come back tomorrow. 556 00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:09,389 Speaker 3: I'm going to find my other one. 557 00:22:09,410 --> 00:22:09,790 Speaker 6: Trust me. 558 00:22:09,810 --> 00:22:12,649 Speaker 2: You do realise I've got a fly to catch. What about... Yeah, 559 00:22:12,869 --> 00:22:14,889 Speaker 2: I've lost me train of thought. 560 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:18,070 Speaker 3: I've got Bluey, Guy McKenna talking about Campbell on SEM. 561 00:22:18,270 --> 00:22:20,390 Speaker 5: Oh, yes, just keep coming. Does everyone want to have 562 00:22:20,410 --> 00:22:20,990 Speaker 5: a pot shot. 563 00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:22,370 Speaker 3: Of the dog? Brother, this is lovely. 564 00:22:22,450 --> 00:22:22,730 Speaker 2: Okay. 565 00:22:22,869 --> 00:22:23,790 Speaker 3: All right, so this is on SEM. 566 00:22:23,850 --> 00:22:24,669 Speaker 2: I haven't heard this. 567 00:22:24,690 --> 00:22:28,190 Speaker 3: Found one. Okay. Now we'll tease it after the outbreak. 568 00:22:28,450 --> 00:22:30,450 Speaker 3: After the outbreak. Because we've got to be nice to 569 00:22:30,510 --> 00:22:30,910 Speaker 3: our man. 570 00:22:31,070 --> 00:22:33,899 Speaker 5: It's the last time I attack Brody. He's got ammo 571 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 5: up his sleeve. Mate, this is a new side to you. 572 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 5: How long have you been sitting on some of this savage? 573 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,540 Speaker 6: And you know what? I don't want to speak ill 574 00:22:40,580 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 6: of my friend the dog, so I just keep it 575 00:22:42,270 --> 00:22:44,030 Speaker 6: to the side. I don't pass it on. 576 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:47,370 Speaker 2: You don't upset him. Yeah. But before, give that feedback, 577 00:22:47,410 --> 00:22:49,310 Speaker 2: and then you'll give us Chris Jones' feedback to you 578 00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:50,230 Speaker 2: after it out of 40. 579 00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 5: Tell him to tune in Sunday when I do the 580 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 5: Richmond GWS game again. 581 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh, another blockbuster. 582 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 3: All right, Campbell's going to get clipped after the ads, 583 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,750 Speaker 3: but here is Guy McKenna, the great Suns coach. 584 00:22:59,810 --> 00:23:00,070 Speaker 2: Bluey. 585 00:23:00,890 --> 00:23:02,350 Speaker 3: Talking about Campbell on the radio. 586 00:23:02,730 --> 00:23:04,510 Speaker 10: Coach, I mean, you had another player on your list 587 00:23:04,550 --> 00:23:06,969 Speaker 10: at the time, Campbell Brown, one of ours, who was 588 00:23:07,010 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 10: no stranger to the tribunal. And Carlton famously fined Jared Waite. 589 00:23:10,460 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 10: So angry were they over his suspensions going back to 590 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:13,140 Speaker 10: another time. 591 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,659 Speaker 9: But what goes into this stuff? Did you ever have 592 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 9: the chat? Yeah, well, with Brownie, I mean, Brownie was Brownie. 593 00:23:20,290 --> 00:23:22,609 Speaker 9: And look, I don't think anyone could get to Brownie, 594 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:26,730 Speaker 9: to be honest. Maybe his father, possibly. possibly could get 595 00:23:26,770 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 9: through to Brownie but but that's why we recruited him 596 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 9: we wanted to show the young players what passion meant 597 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,340 Speaker 9: what hardness meant you know and Brownie Brownie technically was, well, 598 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 9: let's be honest, hopefully he's not listening, but he was 599 00:23:37,380 --> 00:23:40,220 Speaker 9: a good player. He's a premiership player as well, let's 600 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,500 Speaker 9: not forget. But his ability to compete and in the 601 00:23:44,540 --> 00:23:46,820 Speaker 9: gym lift weights and do that and just his passion 602 00:23:47,140 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 9: for the football club and the jump, I mean, he's 603 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 9: off the spectrum with all that sort of stuff and 604 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 9: that's what he brought to our club and that's hopefully 605 00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 9: what he's instilled in, you know, I see David Swallow 606 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 9: and Sam Day and a few other players still running around, 607 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,260 Speaker 9: you know, Alex Sexton still running around at Gold Coast 608 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 9: and I'm hoping those boys have... seen what Brownie brought 609 00:24:03,020 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 9: to the club and have taken elements of him now. 610 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:07,730 Speaker 3: So what he's basically said is Campbell was not like 611 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:10,710 Speaker 3: Shakespeare with the ball. No. But he said he was. 612 00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:12,910 Speaker 2: Well, he was told by Clark not to kick the ball. 613 00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:13,889 Speaker 3: Not to kick the ball. 614 00:24:13,910 --> 00:24:15,889 Speaker 5: I'm off the spectrum. I've got autism, apparently. 615 00:24:15,910 --> 00:24:17,330 Speaker 3: Well, that's pretty much what he said. But he said 616 00:24:17,369 --> 00:24:19,170 Speaker 3: your ethic unparalleled. 617 00:24:19,470 --> 00:24:20,950 Speaker 2: Culturally, great. 618 00:24:21,290 --> 00:24:22,530 Speaker 3: Not good out of a nightclub. 619 00:24:22,630 --> 00:24:24,650 Speaker 2: On-field performance, not great. 620 00:24:24,730 --> 00:24:25,130 Speaker 3: Not great. 621 00:24:25,150 --> 00:24:27,910 Speaker 2: Didn't he see the 2008 grand final when I went 622 00:24:27,930 --> 00:24:30,020 Speaker 2: back and watched that the other day? You were robbed 623 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,710 Speaker 2: for the normalcy. 624 00:24:30,859 --> 00:24:31,150 Speaker 3: I was. 625 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,580 Speaker 2: There. There we go. 626 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 5: Is there more audio? 627 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,060 Speaker 3: No, no, that's it. You missed the whole thing. You 628 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,739 Speaker 3: cut the best bit. 629 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 6: What bit? 630 00:24:37,220 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: You were dicking around. 631 00:24:38,020 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: The bit at the end. 632 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 3: What bit? 633 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 6: That he's liking you to Glenn Archer and John Worsford. 634 00:24:44,300 --> 00:24:44,710 Speaker 3: Did he? 635 00:24:44,780 --> 00:24:45,020 Speaker 2: Did he? 636 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:47,860 Speaker 5: Did you have that in there? 637 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:47,940 Speaker 11: No. 638 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 5: He's cut the. 639 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:51,340 Speaker 3: He did, because I heard him liking you to Woosha, 640 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 3: and then it wasn't in that grand. 641 00:24:53,020 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 2: That's a pretty grand, mate. 642 00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:55,100 Speaker 3: Shots fired again. 643 00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 6: He did liken him to Woosha. 644 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:01,179 Speaker 4: Oh, no one wants to hear that. 645 00:25:01,220 --> 00:25:02,580 Speaker 6: That's just fluff at the end. I just want to 646 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,740 Speaker 6: hear the confrontational bit. 647 00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:05,660 Speaker 3: We're going to play some ads and then. 648 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 2: That's a fair comparison. 649 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,110 Speaker 3: And then Brodie's going to play another grab that's mean 650 00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:11,570 Speaker 3: to Campbell and let's see if he knocks him out. 651 00:25:11,869 --> 00:25:12,250 Speaker 3: What do you think? 652 00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:12,990 Speaker 2: Love it. 653 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:18,469 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Brownies Podcast. The temperature in the studio 654 00:25:18,490 --> 00:25:19,690 Speaker 3: has risen because. 655 00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:21,310 Speaker 2: Basically. 656 00:25:21,350 --> 00:25:24,350 Speaker 3: Campbell attacked Brodie. Brodie attacked him back with receipts. 657 00:25:24,510 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: Yes. I didn't expect a rebuttal. With feedback. Yeah. Strong feedback. 658 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,340 Speaker 5: You've come a long way. 659 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 660 00:25:32,460 --> 00:25:33,660 Speaker 5: Since that shaved head. 661 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: You know. I thought it was ordinary by you, Brods. 662 00:25:36,950 --> 00:25:42,150 Speaker 2: Bluey McKenna likened our man Campbell Brown to Glenn Archer 663 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:42,950 Speaker 2: and John Worsfold. 664 00:25:42,990 --> 00:25:44,730 Speaker 3: And you consciously cut that out. 665 00:25:45,290 --> 00:25:46,990 Speaker 6: The grab was like 30 minutes. Do we really want 666 00:25:47,050 --> 00:25:49,310 Speaker 6: to listen to 30 minutes of Woosha just fluffing about? 667 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:53,490 Speaker 3: That minute was, are you finding it dope? This is sad, dog. 668 00:25:54,390 --> 00:25:57,850 Speaker 2: This might be narcissism at its highest level, dog. Come on. 669 00:25:58,050 --> 00:25:59,850 Speaker 3: I've learned from the best. I've done my best. I'm 670 00:25:59,869 --> 00:26:02,670 Speaker 3: trying to puff it up. 671 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:06,020 Speaker 2: I've called you a Norm Smith medalist. We've likened you 672 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,260 Speaker 2: to a Glen Attridge. Oh, no. Stop it. Oh, no. 673 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: Stop it. Oh, Jesus. Acceptance. Okay, this is our standing. 674 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,030 Speaker 9: You need to get across that, Bruce. Glenn Archer was 675 00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:16,590 Speaker 9: beyond that. 676 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:17,850 Speaker 3: John Worsfold was beyond that. 677 00:26:17,910 --> 00:26:22,030 Speaker 9: Campbell Brown was beyond that. 678 00:26:22,109 --> 00:26:24,090 Speaker 6: What they were saying is that they were talking about 679 00:26:24,130 --> 00:26:26,690 Speaker 6: them being psychos on the field. And he's like, yeah, 680 00:26:27,010 --> 00:26:29,270 Speaker 6: Woosha was beyond that. Archer was beyond that. Brown was 681 00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:31,950 Speaker 6: beyond that. I'm not sure that's a re-endorsement. 682 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:36,090 Speaker 3: Okay, your friends were giving you live feedback regarding Campbell's commentary. 683 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 6: Just another voice memo. Just another voice memo. 684 00:26:38,859 --> 00:26:44,790 Speaker 5: Your friends are f * * * wits. It was 685 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:45,590 Speaker 5: the same guy. 686 00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: That is a different guy. 687 00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:48,459 Speaker 4: I don't know who you're hanging around with, mate, but 688 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 4: get new friends. 689 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:49,899 Speaker 3: One was the diddler. 690 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 6: One was the diddler. One was Nate. 691 00:26:52,820 --> 00:26:53,420 Speaker 3: The diddler. 692 00:26:53,460 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: The diddler. And Nate. What's the diddler done to get 693 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: that nickname? 694 00:26:57,460 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 3: Don't ask. For another time. 695 00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:01,460 Speaker 5: Do they listen to the potty? 696 00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:02,130 Speaker 3: They do. 697 00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:04,429 Speaker 2: Good. I want to ask you now, Chris Jones, the 698 00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:06,970 Speaker 2: boss of Channel 7, you were going to get some 699 00:27:06,990 --> 00:27:10,950 Speaker 2: feedback because Dancing with the Stars is out of 40. 700 00:27:11,010 --> 00:27:13,990 Speaker 2: Ben Cousins only got 14 out of 40 for the cha-cha. 701 00:27:14,010 --> 00:27:16,370 Speaker 2: He stuffed it up. Pigeon neck, all that sort of stuff. 702 00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:18,889 Speaker 2: What did Jonesy say out of 40? 32 out of 40. 703 00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:19,210 Speaker 1: What? 704 00:27:19,270 --> 00:27:21,150 Speaker 2: Yeah. 32 out of 40 for your commentary performance. 705 00:27:21,170 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: The presence of mind to liken the bad bounce to 706 00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:25,300 Speaker 4: the 2010 grand final. 707 00:27:25,420 --> 00:27:28,220 Speaker 2: I like that. The Royal Marshals went sideways late. 708 00:27:28,540 --> 00:27:31,780 Speaker 4: Yeah, just a few little– What did he say when 709 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,340 Speaker 4: he referenced the meme song from 12 years ago? 710 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,220 Speaker 3: Didn't mind it. Yeah, didn't mind it. 711 00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:40,810 Speaker 2: I just brought him down from 36 to 32. Loved 712 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:45,379 Speaker 2: Chatty Blue Eyes. Chatty enjoyed that. And the banter between– 713 00:27:45,650 --> 00:27:48,130 Speaker 2: the endearing banter between you and BT, just the back 714 00:27:48,170 --> 00:27:48,590 Speaker 2: and forth. 715 00:27:48,650 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the strong connection between the Xavier boy– In 716 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,420 Speaker 4: Job Watson and the Scotch boy, you know, the Catholic 717 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: and the Protestant. 718 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,860 Speaker 3: Oh, if you talked about the banter, we should have 719 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:00,980 Speaker 3: a listen. 720 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 2: To that again, shouldn't we? 721 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: Too good not to. In your brown eyes. 722 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: Here we go. 723 00:28:06,180 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 11: Happy birthday to Max King out there, 24 today. Coincidentally, 724 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 11: I guess that means that Ben's birthday as well, given 725 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 11: they're twins. 726 00:28:17,619 --> 00:28:19,379 Speaker 5: I do know a set of twins not born on 727 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: the same year, in fact. 728 00:28:22,410 --> 00:28:22,970 Speaker 3: Crossed over. 729 00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:24,100 Speaker 2: Yes, crossed over. 730 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: After midnight on New Year's Eve. 731 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:32,290 Speaker 2: Well, yes, Campbell, that's correct. Mate, that was Federer and 732 00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: Nadal in the prime. 733 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,180 Speaker 3: The way you were turned. 734 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,459 Speaker 5: On play, on play. 735 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 2: Magnificent. Now, hey, I've been hanging on this for the 736 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:46,610 Speaker 2: last few days. We had a bet, and over under 737 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,370 Speaker 2: the other day, North Melbourne versus Gold Coast at Marvel Stadium. 738 00:28:49,910 --> 00:28:51,850 Speaker 2: The crowd figure, and we tossed it out. 739 00:28:51,890 --> 00:28:53,470 Speaker 3: You forgot to do this in you, you prick. 740 00:28:53,550 --> 00:28:54,110 Speaker 6: No, I've got it. 741 00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:55,210 Speaker 2: You're a producer or not. 742 00:28:55,290 --> 00:28:56,450 Speaker 3: I didn't mean that. I didn't mean to call you 743 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:56,750 Speaker 3: a prick. 744 00:28:56,770 --> 00:28:58,330 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you think I've got evidence about you two, 745 00:28:58,390 --> 00:28:58,709 Speaker 6: so don't worry. 746 00:28:58,730 --> 00:28:59,580 Speaker 3: Give some free bait for Braves. 747 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 6: All right, so we went through, who do we think 748 00:29:03,020 --> 00:29:03,660 Speaker 6: the over-unders? 749 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,860 Speaker 2: What's the over-under for North Melbourne Suns crowd figure? I'm 750 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,740 Speaker 2: going to say under 11,000. 751 00:29:08,740 --> 00:29:10,700 Speaker 5: You're going to go under 11,000? 752 00:29:10,690 --> 00:29:13,190 Speaker 2: I'm going to say 16,000. That's still pretty low. That's generous. 753 00:29:13,330 --> 00:29:16,990 Speaker 2: I'm gobbled 13,486. Okay. The crowd will be 15,535. 754 00:29:16,990 --> 00:29:18,610 Speaker 5: Okay, so you've undercut me nicely there. 755 00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:18,790 Speaker 2: Suck it. 756 00:29:27,940 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 6: The official crowd attendance of the North Gold Coast game, 757 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,300 Speaker 6: which was actually a pretty good game in the end. 758 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:35,010 Speaker 2: Was 17,781. Wow. 759 00:29:35,150 --> 00:29:35,220 Speaker 7: JB1. 760 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:40,490 Speaker 9: Yeah. 761 00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:48,490 Speaker 2: $ 17, 000. 762 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:46,170 Speaker 5: Is low. 763 00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:48,010 Speaker 2: Jeez. You said under $ 11, 000. 764 00:29:47,890 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: Well, I thought it'd be lower, didn't I? 765 00:29:49,550 --> 00:29:51,230 Speaker 2: They're actually good to go and watch, though, because I 766 00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:53,390 Speaker 2: went to watch their game against Collingwood a few weeks ago. 767 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:55,230 Speaker 2: I thought that was the game of the season as well. 768 00:29:55,610 --> 00:29:58,630 Speaker 3: Hey, we're going to do a Friday fire-up today because 769 00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: we're doing the podcast for Friday today, right? 770 00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:05,020 Speaker 2: Well, on Friday night, who plays? Geelong v Collingwood at 771 00:30:05,060 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: the MCG. And I tell you what, it's about time 772 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 2: that Collingwood lift. About time they get back. You know what, 773 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: I know they've got some injuries in the forward line, 774 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,980 Speaker 2: but our man, or my man, Craig McRae, former teammate, 775 00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 2: big fly, he talks about... It's not about the names 776 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,460 Speaker 2: on the magnets. 777 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:20,740 Speaker 10: Get them. 778 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,010 Speaker 2: It's about the magnets themselves. 779 00:30:23,090 --> 00:30:23,230 Speaker 1: Whoa! 780 00:30:23,250 --> 00:30:26,930 Speaker 2: Now, they've been able to show they can rejig. Get them. Retool. 781 00:30:27,090 --> 00:30:27,290 Speaker 12: Woof. 782 00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:30,370 Speaker 2: Redesign their game style and still win games of football. 783 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:30,970 Speaker 3: System. 784 00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: They've got Nick Dacos out there. System. We've got Jordan Degoe. So, 785 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:39,100 Speaker 2: just like sure, if you could turn back time. If 786 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,780 Speaker 2: I could find a way. Fly, you can find a way. 787 00:30:42,020 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 2: Go back. 788 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,870 Speaker 12: Go back to the scrapbooks from last year or the 789 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,190 Speaker 12: year before. Retool that squad. Implement them. Send it out there. 790 00:30:51,230 --> 00:30:54,969 Speaker 12: Deploy them in different positions. Throw something else differently to 791 00:30:55,010 --> 00:30:59,530 Speaker 12: your old former teammate, Chris Scott, and you can deliver 792 00:30:59,870 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 12: in front of the Collingwood Army on Friday night. 793 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,380 Speaker 2: Stunning. 794 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:05,540 Speaker 11: Yeah. 795 00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:08,660 Speaker 3: Mate, that was a great fire up, eh? And the 796 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: way you said Friday. 797 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:11,300 Speaker 2: Friday night. 798 00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: But it's a good point, man. Like, they've got to 799 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,900 Speaker 3: send a rocket up a team. 800 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:15,739 Speaker 2: They do, don't they? 801 00:31:15,770 --> 00:31:20,130 Speaker 5: Two of Shur's other great songs are Strong Enough and Believe. 802 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:21,450 Speaker 2: Wow, there you go. 803 00:31:21,470 --> 00:31:22,630 Speaker 5: Thanks for that. 804 00:31:22,650 --> 00:31:26,710 Speaker 2: Strong enough. It should be just Cher all over. It 805 00:31:26,810 --> 00:31:28,910 Speaker 2: should be just Cher music in the Collingwood rooms before 806 00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:29,380 Speaker 2: they run out. 807 00:31:29,390 --> 00:31:30,170 Speaker 3: That's a great point, brother. 808 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:32,450 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So, no, looking forward to that. I've got the 809 00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: boxing tonight. It's going to be great. Get on main event. Yeah. 810 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,580 Speaker 2: Cost you about $ 50. Great fight. It's not only Barry 811 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 2: Hall against Curtis Scott. Big Baz, if he wins tonight. 812 00:31:42,690 --> 00:31:45,290 Speaker 2: Super fight against Paul Gallant. Really? You would have thought. 813 00:31:46,090 --> 00:31:47,969 Speaker 2: That could be a big payday for them. 814 00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: I'm not being disrespectful, but he's got to rock up. 815 00:31:50,010 --> 00:31:50,580 Speaker 2: Two enforcers. 816 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,700 Speaker 3: That last one was like a PR disaster. 817 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 5: Sonny Bill, man, he's proper. 818 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,580 Speaker 2: Big boy. 819 00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:55,660 Speaker 3: Show something. 820 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: You know Baz is 10 kilos heavier for this fight 821 00:31:57,780 --> 00:32:00,180 Speaker 2: than he was against Sonny Bill. He's really got in 822 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,140 Speaker 2: the gym. So he's got the muscles. I'd say there'll 823 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: be an early round knockout. 824 00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:09,430 Speaker 3: A Hawks 3-0, actually a huge game. Who would have 825 00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:11,090 Speaker 3: thought at this time of the year we'd care about 826 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:12,410 Speaker 3: that fixture? But that's massive. 827 00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:15,770 Speaker 4: It is, because the Hawks need to win if they 828 00:32:15,790 --> 00:32:19,630 Speaker 4: want to keep their finals dream alive. I think because 829 00:32:19,650 --> 00:32:22,690 Speaker 4: they've got such bad percentage, 13 wins this year isn't 830 00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: going to get them playing finals. 831 00:32:24,190 --> 00:32:25,100 Speaker 5: Usually it's 12. 832 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: Yes. 13's not. 833 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,340 Speaker 5: They might need 14, so they might need a win. 834 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you might need 14 this year. Yeah, so. 835 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:34,770 Speaker 4: Against a really good Freya side in Tassie with no 836 00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:37,170 Speaker 4: Mitch Lewis. Hopefully they get Cicely back. Oh, I think 837 00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:38,020 Speaker 4: the Hawks will bounce back. 838 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 3: All right. Other games to have a look at. 839 00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: Dees. 840 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,300 Speaker 3: And who are they playing? 841 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 6: The Bombers. 842 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:43,420 Speaker 2: Shit! 843 00:32:43,820 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 5: That's a big game. 844 00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:46,459 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a big game. Well, the Bombers want 845 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 2: to continue their momentum, and the Dees need to stay 846 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:51,219 Speaker 2: in touch with the top eight, don't they? Who would 847 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,930 Speaker 2: have thought the Dees would be scrambling to hang on? 848 00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 2: Dees and Collingwood scrambling to hang on to the top 849 00:32:55,270 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: eight this year. So they've got a few problems. How 850 00:32:58,460 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 2: do they go without Max Gorn? Oh, John. Like, he's 851 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,380 Speaker 2: probably out for two or three weeks. I'm not sure. 852 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,310 Speaker 2: I haven't heard many cries for, what did you do 853 00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:07,310 Speaker 2: with Brodie Grundy? Why did you let him go to Sydney? 854 00:33:07,330 --> 00:33:09,910 Speaker 2: I can understand why they did, but I'm not sure 855 00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:11,330 Speaker 2: they've got a backup. Ruckman, have they? 856 00:33:11,670 --> 00:33:12,910 Speaker 6: Fullerton or something, I think. 857 00:33:12,970 --> 00:33:14,020 Speaker 5: Tom Fullerton from Brisbane. 858 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,540 Speaker 2: Tom Fullerton, sorry. He actually showed a bit of potential. 859 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 6: But he's nothing like Max Gorn. He's no Max Gorn. 860 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: This. 861 00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: a three-week injury could cost Maxie an All-Australian jumper because 862 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,500 Speaker 4: I reckon he's. 863 00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 5: Neck and neck with Brodie Grundy. Yeah, it's fair call. 864 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,620 Speaker 5: And if he's going to miss three or four weeks 865 00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:32,020 Speaker 5: and Brodie has a really good month. 866 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: If you're a Dees fan, it's pretty heartbreaking if you 867 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,420 Speaker 3: live in Melbourne. You didn't see that flag, COVID. They've 868 00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 3: pretty much fallen out of. Be more like Burbank. What 869 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:42,140 Speaker 3: does that mean? 870 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,980 Speaker 2: Oh, he got across and saw it. 871 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 6: Babbage and Burbank, remember? 872 00:33:43,820 --> 00:33:44,420 Speaker 2: Babbage and Burbank. 873 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,610 Speaker 5: They got across and saw it. 874 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,290 Speaker 4: It wasn't beyond the realms to watch them win the 875 00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:51,070 Speaker 4: flag if it meant enough for a Melbourne supporter. 876 00:33:51,090 --> 00:33:52,950 Speaker 6: You had to go to prison, but yeah, that's all right. 877 00:33:53,130 --> 00:33:55,170 Speaker 2: All good. Worth it. Go get jacked. A lot of 878 00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:56,790 Speaker 2: them are in the snow at the moment, too. I 879 00:33:56,850 --> 00:33:59,310 Speaker 2: thought it was pretty fresh. Or Saint-Tropez. Saint-Tropez. 880 00:33:59,330 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 3: John, they haven't been out of the eight at this 881 00:34:01,130 --> 00:34:02,860 Speaker 3: time of the year in, it feels like, five years. 882 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,700 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. They've been up and about, haven't they? 883 00:34:04,780 --> 00:34:05,060 Speaker 1: Wild. 884 00:34:05,380 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: I agree with your sentiment, but Babbage and Burbank, I 885 00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:10,459 Speaker 2: wonder where they are now. And if you really think 886 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: back for them in a quiet moment before they put 887 00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:16,700 Speaker 2: their head on the pillow, I reckon the regret, as 888 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:23,050 Speaker 2: Melbourne's performances go worse, decline, I reckon their optimism about their. 889 00:34:22,870 --> 00:34:24,670 Speaker 5: Life experience and what they did goes up. 890 00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:27,610 Speaker 2: I agree. It's like an inverse graft. 891 00:34:27,670 --> 00:34:27,970 Speaker 10: Yeah. 892 00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:31,430 Speaker 3: Jonathan Ape, put it here. 893 00:34:31,950 --> 00:34:33,930 Speaker 2: That is genius. It is, isn't it? 894 00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: That is absolutely genius. 895 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 4: The fact that Babbage lost his accounting licence and Burbank's 896 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,540 Speaker 4: lost his bar. 897 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:39,859 Speaker 10: Doesn't matter. 898 00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:40,779 Speaker 2: Hey, let's buy the bar. 899 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,500 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter. Look at the graph. The optimism rising. 900 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 2: I think it's an inverse graph. 901 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,980 Speaker 5: And somewhere where it crosses, you find the unicorn. 902 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,510 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 903 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,180 Speaker 2: Well done. 904 00:34:50,260 --> 00:34:53,430 Speaker 6: I think that was the most philosophical... Uplifting thing I've 905 00:34:53,450 --> 00:34:54,370 Speaker 6: ever heard Jonathan say. 906 00:34:54,469 --> 00:34:58,250 Speaker 2: A-plus in maths. Gandhi, Gandhi. Dogs and Blues, that's a 907 00:34:58,270 --> 00:35:01,580 Speaker 2: big game. I'm doing that Saturday evening. No, Saturday twilight. 908 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,460 Speaker 2: Blues need to bounce back. 909 00:35:02,739 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: So do the Dogs. 910 00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:04,580 Speaker 6: I think the Dogs could get them. 911 00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:06,780 Speaker 2: I think it's a fascinating clash, actually, in a battle 912 00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:09,629 Speaker 2: between two big midfields. Bond will be disappointed after his game. 913 00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:11,549 Speaker 2: on the weekend as well as the rest of the midfield. 914 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:13,910 Speaker 5: Is Kuno carrying an injury? Well, you know. 915 00:35:13,969 --> 00:35:16,109 Speaker 2: He's been a bit spasmodic throughout the year. 916 00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:17,750 Speaker 3: Well said, John, well said. 917 00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:20,410 Speaker 2: Well, even like he has lit up and his stats 918 00:35:20,450 --> 00:35:23,670 Speaker 2: look all right, but it's all happened in 15-minute bursts. 919 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:26,049 Speaker 2: I think you like greater consistency across the board. I 920 00:35:26,070 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: think Harry McCoy has had a far more consistent season. 921 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:31,580 Speaker 2: So that'll be one to watch. But I'm looking forward 922 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: to the midfield battle, especially Cripps v. Bontempelli. How good's 923 00:35:35,219 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 2: that going to be? 924 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:41,770 Speaker 3: And we just got another spasmodic. We got another spasmodic. 925 00:35:41,790 --> 00:35:43,510 Speaker 5: I'm going to give each of you some homework. 926 00:35:43,930 --> 00:35:46,330 Speaker 2: Yes, I've already got homework. I've got rope-a-dope tonight. You've 927 00:35:46,350 --> 00:35:47,050 Speaker 2: got rope-a-dope. 928 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: Reflect back on how you've been today in the podcast 929 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: and this week. And I am going to put my 930 00:35:55,060 --> 00:35:56,219 Speaker 4: hand up and say, I'm going to come into the 931 00:35:56,260 --> 00:35:57,419 Speaker 4: podcast on Monday and be less. 932 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,859 Speaker 3: A confrontation. 933 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. 934 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,470 Speaker 3: He's a big run-up. He's wobbly. 935 00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:09,609 Speaker 5: I'm going to be less narcissistic. What are you guys 936 00:36:09,630 --> 00:36:10,410 Speaker 5: going to bring to the table? 937 00:36:10,510 --> 00:36:13,070 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. If you continue on in that format, 938 00:36:13,090 --> 00:36:17,009 Speaker 2: you'll be unsacramentously dumped in this podcast. 939 00:36:17,050 --> 00:36:17,570 Speaker 3: See you later. 940 00:36:18,380 --> 00:36:18,980 Speaker 2: See you, guys.