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Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on worundry Land Always was, Always

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Speaker 1: will be Aboriginal Land. Hey Chicks, I'm sal and I'm Out.

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Speaker 1: This is two broad chicks to show that shares life

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Speaker 1: lessons and tips to help make you rich in life.

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Speaker 2: And today we are.

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Speaker 1: In for a gorgeous little shopping treat. Chicki's because we

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Speaker 1: are joined by Katerina Riley, a Melbourne based fashion designer

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Speaker 1: who is also doing God's work, sharing tips on how

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Speaker 1: to spot the difference between a good and bad quality garment,

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Speaker 1: fabric composition one oh one, and a bunch of other

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Speaker 1: hacks to help you get more bang for your buck

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Speaker 1: when shopping for cludes. Hey Cat, Oh my gosh, I

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited. Fan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like, I think I saw like one

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Speaker 3: of your first videos and I was like, oho, literally,

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Speaker 3: because you're you're kind of new to the content creation world, right,

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Speaker 3: like how long ago did you start?

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Speaker 2: But I started doing like the quality stuff maybe August

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Speaker 2: last year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, signed up science He'll delivered. I'm yours.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: It's so so helpful because a lot of the information

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Speaker 1: that you share is stuff that the average day shop

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Speaker 1: I isn't going to know, and I think in a

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Speaker 1: cost of living crisis, we all want to find, you know,

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Speaker 1: that good medium ground between something that's good quality but

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Speaker 1: also affordable. So we're going to get into that, which

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited for. But before we do start with

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Speaker 1: our questions, we like to start with a life lesson

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Speaker 1: of the week. So, as our guest of honor, would

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Speaker 1: you like to start us off?

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Speaker 2: Yes? My life lesson is so simple, And my mum

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Speaker 2: always says it to me. When I reach a milestone

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Speaker 2: on TikTok, say like I reach five K and I

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Speaker 2: thousand views, She'll say to me, I'm so proud. You're

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Speaker 2: doing amazing things. But just keep being yourself. Keep being you,

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Speaker 2: and that's what people want to see, is the real you,

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Speaker 2: and just keep doing you.

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Speaker 1: So oh my god, I'm going to cry.

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Speaker 2: Just be yourself. But I think that constant reminder from

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Speaker 3: It is because as well, even whether it's on social

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Speaker 3: media and content creation, or whether it's at work with

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Speaker 3: people in person or a group of friends, like it

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Speaker 3: can very easily feel like the person that you are

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Speaker 3: in yourself isn't enough for the things that are around you.

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Speaker 3: But that's the reason why people are there or you're

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Speaker 3: in that environment. So I think that's a beautiful reminder.

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Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, don't lose sight of who you

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Speaker 1: really are. And a lot of the time, who's going

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Speaker 1: to know that best then your mom or whoever that

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Speaker 1: like maternal figure is in your life. Yeah. My life

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Speaker 1: lesson of the week is a quick one and it's

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Speaker 1: a little eyeshadow tip. So I have really oily eyelids,

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Speaker 1: So I feel like my eyeshadow just gets like like

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Speaker 1: like just using it? Well? Sorry, sorry, Well I have

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Speaker 3: Yes, So I do a primer.

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Speaker 1: Then I'll do a little bit of concealer. Then I

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Speaker 1: And I found that that has really helped. Like in

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Speaker 1: For me as an oily eyelid girl is the setting

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Speaker 1: how did you get into fashion?

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Speaker 2: play Startle.

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Speaker 1: Did you guys have Oh god, yes, I loved that

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Speaker 1: kind of shit like that. This is probably a bit

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I did textiles in year twelve, and that really

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Speaker 2: It was actually a really full circle moment. I still

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Speaker 3: All that must be the coolest thing to go about

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Speaker 3: your day and see people. It's so weird in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I designed that to sign boyfriend's like

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Speaker 3: So we're going to jump into a few different categories

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Speaker 3: of topics in this app we're going to do good

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Speaker 3: quality versus bad quality. We're going to do building a wardrobe,

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Speaker 3: and then we're going to get into sharping bread and butter. Baby,

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Speaker 3: so let's jump into good quality versus bad quality, because

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Speaker 3: an expert. So fabrics. There's two types of fabrics, right,

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Speaker 3: there's natural and synthetic. Yes, okay, give me the crash

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Speaker 2: So you have all those which is where synthetics and

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Speaker 2: synthetic fibers. So natural fibers are cotton, linen, wool, yep, yep.

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Speaker 3: And then synthetic fibers are.

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Speaker 2: Poly nylon, acrylic, yeah, those things. And then you have

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Speaker 3: Okay, So fibers is what the fabric is made of?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you they don't usually say, well, sometimes they do,

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so the fibers what it's made from. The

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Is there a certain way that's better than others?

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Speaker 3: Or is it just how that certain fabric like denim

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's more like what is required for the

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, what's a green flag and a red flag

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Speaker 2: depend on the style and what characteristics you want from it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like we need to like work together

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Speaker 3: right and polyester is one of them. Is polyester in

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Speaker 2: I'm so torn on this because we know polyester is

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Speaker 2: doesn't buy a degrade, it's sustainable. But also the thing

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Speaker 2: definitely not like I don't want to see it. That's

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Speaker 3: Some items that if you saw had polyester in it,

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Speaker 2: Probably doesn't need to be there. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 2: of all the variables, but fashion covers so many nuances,

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Speaker 2: like if you had a small percentage, maybe it would

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Speaker 2: probably denim doesn't mean any polyester.

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Speaker 3: And I've seen you were talking about polyester in very

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Speaker 3: structured clothing such as blazers, can sometimes play a role

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Speaker 3: because it helps it hold its shape, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That's the thing with jackets is one it

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Speaker 2: natural fabrics don't keep their shape as well as synthetics.

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Speaker 2: That's the nature of synthetics. They're strong usually and they

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Speaker 2: That's my little hack.

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Speaker 3: So turn it inside out.

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Speaker 3: building a capsule wardrobe that is filled with only good

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Speaker 3: quality pieces?

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Speaker 2: I think a capsule wardrobe looks different for everyone. I

443
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Speaker 2: have a friend Maddie. She's like a TikTok creator. She's

444
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Speaker 2: amazing and she's known for her bright, colorful outfits. So

445
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Speaker 2: a capsual wardrobe for her would look so different to

446
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Speaker 2: capture wardrobe. For me, I'm a basic bitch. So I

447
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Speaker 2: think it's about understanding on your days that you got

448
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Speaker 2: your period or you really can't be fucked doing anything

449
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Speaker 2: and you need an outfit. What are you drawn to first?

450
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Speaker 2: That's what I think about is like all black for me,

451
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Speaker 2: a big blazer like don't look at me, and coffee pants,

452
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Speaker 2: maybe an elastic past or something. And so I think

453
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Speaker 2: it's about understanding yourself first, which is a bit deep,

454
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Speaker 2: but no, we love it about that first. And then

455
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Speaker 2: in terms of building a high quality one, I think

456
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Speaker 2: it's about doing it slowly. Even say it's out of

457
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Speaker 2: your price point, which it is for me too, and

458
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Speaker 2: you only pick two items for the season to add

459
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Speaker 2: to your wardrobe, fine, just do it slowly and that

460
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Speaker 2: that way, I think you're really building a good quality

461
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Speaker 2: wardrobe brother than just a quick one. You don't have

462
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Speaker 2: to finish the wardrobe in the season. You can finish

463
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Speaker 2: it over time.

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Speaker 3: I like that. I like there's a couple of creators

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Speaker 3: that do versions of like pyramids and pie charts, and

466
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Speaker 3: they always start with a foundation, and that's like foundation

467
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Speaker 3: is kind of that capsule part that's like, yeah, your

468
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Speaker 3: jeans and like whatever that is, Like in my capsule wardrobe,

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Speaker 3: there's cowboy boots in my foundation. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and then on top.

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Speaker 3: Of that you have like the accents, and like that's

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Speaker 3: when I maybe bring in like my green jacket that

473
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Speaker 3: looks like it's from the Lizzie McGuire movie, or like

474
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Speaker 3: my little accents, and I'm like, yeah, this is fun. Now,

475
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Speaker 3: this is now why I feel like I'm wearing a

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Speaker 3: different outfit every day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Yeah, it's kind of having a balance

478
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Speaker 1: between those things, Like you have your capsule base pieces,

479
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Speaker 1: but then you have a select usetak.

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Speaker 3: Garnish, Yeah, a garnish item, yeah, a little bit of

481
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Speaker 3: a corean a jacket if you will.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But also as we head into the cooler months,

483
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Speaker 1: a lot of us are shopping for knitwear. And in

484
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Speaker 1: the perfect world, we would all be purchasing one hundred

485
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Speaker 1: percent cashmere and wall jumpers, right, but not everybody can

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Speaker 1: afford that. Because most places, if you are going to

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Speaker 1: buy something that is one hundred percent natural fiber, it

488
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Speaker 1: is going to come with a higher price. I think.

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Speaker 1: So when we are looking for nitwear that is good

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Speaker 1: quality but affordable, what's the knitwear blend we should be

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Speaker 1: looking for.

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Speaker 2: The one thing I want to tell everyone is no acrylic.

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Speaker 2: I hate acrylic. That's my actually just my opinion, but

494
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Speaker 2: I hate acrylic. It's the devil to me.

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Speaker 1: In knitwear.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, sorry, In nitwear specifically, why the way a

497
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Speaker 2: click's made is it's cut up to be really short fibers,

498
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Speaker 2: and we hate short fibers. They that's what's prone to pilling. Yeah,

499
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Speaker 2: it like traps the heat, so like you're gonna feel

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Speaker 2: warm and crazy, but you're gonna feel clammy and sweaty.

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Speaker 2: So it's I hate it. It's hate that day.

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Speaker 1: Is that why? It also has that kind of like

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Speaker 1: sheen to it as well, Like in certain lights at all,

504
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Speaker 1: you can see almost like a plasticy sort of like

505
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Speaker 1: shene generally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so yes, but I hate a curly But

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Speaker 2: the blends I would be looking for any cotton blends.

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Speaker 2: Glassons actually do an one hundred percent cotton knit which

509
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Speaker 2: is like thirty nine ninety nine And I really like it.

510
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Speaker 2: I bought it myself, so if that says anything, I

511
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Speaker 2: really like it. It's washed really well. It's just like

512
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Speaker 2: a v neck Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And as a Melbourne winter girly, do you find that

514
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Speaker 1: it's warm and up?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay? And what do you think about Uniclon nit?

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Speaker 3: Where love it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I really love that Knits. You can get cashmir for

519
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent Cashme for like one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: dollars ye, which like it's not cheap but relative Hashmi

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Speaker 2: in the market.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in relation, like there's one hundred percent cashme or

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Speaker 3: other retails for four hundred five hundred dollar. Yeah. Where

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Speaker 3: does shrinking come into all of this?

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Speaker 1: So, like you know how.

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Speaker 3: People say, oh I bought this and it's shrunk straight away?

527
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Speaker 3: Is that because the item was bad quality or people

528
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Speaker 3: don't know how to wash their clothes?

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Speaker 2: I would say generally the second, people don't know how

530
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Speaker 2: to take care of their items. Yeah, wool is known

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Speaker 2: to shrink in it where specifically that's how will performs unfortunately,

532
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Speaker 2: but if you take care of it, or if you

533
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Speaker 2: know how to wash it properly using special wool detergents

534
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Speaker 2: and cold wash and trying not to do it too often.

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Speaker 2: You can generally air things out.

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Speaker 3: So how do you wash your clothes as someone who

537
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Speaker 3: is a designer.

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Speaker 2: Very gently? A lot of hand washing. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 2: just a bit of a scared gal. Yeahin any of

540
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Speaker 2: my items, especially what I've invested, So a lot of

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Speaker 2: hand washing. Even if the care label will say like

542
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Speaker 2: delicate machine wash, I'll just hand wash it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, a lot of hand washing of that. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely prefer the handwash and like always cold, everything

545
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Speaker 1: is one wash cold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Were there any other nitwear blends so we should look

548
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Speaker 1: out for aside from cotton.

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Speaker 2: I think the blend of nylon is great gain not

550
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: used for cost cutting, but for its performance. You might

551
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Speaker 2: see polyamide as well. Nylon's the branded polyamide is the

552
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Speaker 2: generic version. They're the same thing.

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Speaker 3: We're kind of entering our shopping section of the episode.

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Speaker 3: When you were shopping, what is like your checklist? So

555
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Speaker 3: say you're going You're looking at an item and you're like, hmm,

556
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Speaker 3: I like the look of this, I might want to

557
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Speaker 3: buy it. This is my checklist that you've got to

558
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Speaker 3: tick these off for me? To make this purchase. Firstly,

559
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Speaker 3: it's fiber composition.

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Speaker 2: Every time I tell my friends and family, check the tags,

561
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Speaker 2: even if you don't know what it means, just message

562
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: me like check. You need to be checking the tags

563
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: and what it's made of. And then if it's relative

564
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Speaker 2: to the price point, which is I guess the personal decision,

565
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Speaker 2: but I guess knowing what I know and what I've

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Speaker 2: worked on, I kind of understand if it's appropriate for

567
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Speaker 2: that point, and that's another factor that I would take

568
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Speaker 2: into account. And then the construction method definitely, the construction

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Speaker 2: and how it's been put together, the seams or the

570
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Speaker 2: types of seams that have used, or French scenes and

571
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Speaker 2: flat felt scenes and all these kinds of technical things.

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Speaker 2: The quality of the lining, which is something that friends

573
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Speaker 2: can skip on because no one cares about the lining,

574
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Speaker 2: do they, But it's really important to have a high

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Speaker 2: quality lining. Sometimes I will buy like a polyester lining

576
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: is fine. Sometimes it depends on the circumstance, but yeah,

577
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: lining and internal fabrics as well as if it's been

578
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Speaker 2: binded on the seams like we were talking about, or

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Speaker 2: if the zipper has been inserted properly and feels really

580
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Speaker 2: sturdy and it's in there properly and not twisting.

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Speaker 3: And okay, and what clothing item can you simply not

582
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Speaker 3: compromise on quality?

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Speaker 2: Denim? Oh, definitely denim.

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Speaker 3: And what are we looking out for?

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Speaker 1: Like, what is a quality piece of denim to you?

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Speaker 2: I think one is buying denim from denim specialized brands,

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Speaker 2: like you have your rollers, you're Levi's. The thing with

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Speaker 2: that is that their factories are specialized in denim, like,

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Speaker 2: of course you have your denim specialized factories in every business. Yes,

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Speaker 2: they would use top tier denim factories, like with the

591
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: most expert people making your clothes, they would have the

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Speaker 2: best access to denim machinery that you would need. So

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Speaker 2: I would be buying denim from denim specialized brands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know what's slept on is buying direct from

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Speaker 3: those brands. So often Wrangler, Lee, Levi's rollers are stocked

597
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: in brands like Universal, Glue, General Pants. Right. However, when

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Speaker 3: you buy direct from those brands, because not a lot

599
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Speaker 3: of people do the sales you can get direct from them.

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Speaker 3: For example, Wrangler do forty percent off during sale events. Consistently,

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Speaker 3: Lee and Riders do thirty percent off sitewides consistently Levi's

602
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: just twenty five percent off site wide for click Frenzy. Like,

603
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Speaker 3: if you cut out the middleman and go direct to

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Speaker 3: the brand, the gene that is the expensive gene that

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't necessarily shop with, actually comes down to like

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Speaker 3: a really affordable and good price point that you'd probably

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Speaker 3: spend full price for maybe one of the faster, fashion less,

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Speaker 3: good quality gene prices that I'm like, I one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent agree. When you're looking at jeans, what's your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on one hundred percent cotton jeens and then genes that

611
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Speaker 3: have a little bit of a lastain in them.

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Speaker 2: I think it's personal preference. Yeah, I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: to do with quality necessarily. Yeah, some people hate stretch denim.

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Speaker 2: I love rigid denim cotton, I hate stretched denim. So yeah,

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00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: that's just a personal preference. But my mum loves stretched denim. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's to do with quality or anything

617
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if this is like an old

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Speaker 3: wives tale, but when you're buying one hundred percent cotton denim,

620
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Speaker 3: should you size down a little bit because when it's stretches,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't it back depends how.

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Speaker 2: You want it to fit. But yeah, yeah, cotton. The

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Speaker 2: thing with cotton is it will stretch out and yeah,

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Speaker 2: not stretch back that much. The retention of cotton can

625
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Speaker 2: be a bit tricky. Yeah, so yes, I would tend

626
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Speaker 2: to agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, old wives tail and and wash on cold?

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Speaker 3: Do you put your jeans? Do you put your geens

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Speaker 3: in the freezer to wash them? Yeah? I don't because

630
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Speaker 3: there's no room. And I've exploded that many coke cans

631
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: in my freezer, like I always put a can of

632
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: coca in their being like, oh that was dinner. I've

633
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 3: done it this morning on my oops. Yeah, I used

634
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Speaker 3: to do it all the time.

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Speaker 1: And your gens smell like freezer chemically, no freezer, and

636
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Speaker 1: it's not it's.

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Speaker 2: Not nice like washless. I think definitely you can spot clean.

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Speaker 1: We saw some research from Business Dasher that showed that

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Speaker 1: sixty four percent of Gen Z and millennial consumers prefer

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Speaker 1: to shop online rather than in person. Do you think

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00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: that more people are likely to buy bad quality clothes

642
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: because we are shopping online more so we can't see

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Speaker 1: those details in person?

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Speaker 2: One percent, myself included. I tried to start a little

645
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: series on my TikTok is this is what good quality

646
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: looks like online edition, because it's so hard to tell.

647
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Even for me, the amount of returns I do is

648
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: ridiculous because I'm like, oh, this is shit. But I

649
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: think the things to look out for the most is

650
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: you should have so much information, like the more information

651
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: the green at the flag for me, the less information

652
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: in your descriptions about the fabric or anything like that

653
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: red flag like right. And the thing about the imagery

654
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: is obviously the brands can can show what they want

655
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: to show in their imagery. So if they've cut costs

656
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: on the lining, they're probably not going to photograph that.

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Speaker 3: What are your top five brands that balance good quality

658
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Speaker 3: with affordability?

659
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Speaker 2: Okay, I always like start with a little preface. STONI, Yes,

660
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Speaker 2: we love a disclaimer because that's true. It's because you

661
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Speaker 2: get something at a disclaim a disclaimer. So my disclaimer,

662
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Speaker 2: who is that brands use a multitude of factories. They

663
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Speaker 2: don't just have one factory that they work with. So

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Speaker 2: they'll have their dnim factory, they'll have their woven's factory,

665
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Speaker 2: they'll have their knits factory, their swimwear factory. So these

666
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Speaker 2: factories that do different things that are specialized in that thing.

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Speaker 1: So don't like they'll have really good swim weear knits. Absolutely,

668
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Speaker 1: it's all make sense.

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Speaker 2: So maybe their denim factory is really specialized. They have

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Speaker 2: a really a plus denim factory with great quality control,

671
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: great machinery, et cetera. But maybe their woven's factory that

672
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Speaker 2: does their shirts is a little bit more inexperience generally,

673
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Speaker 2: like not too inexperience, but yeah, a little bit inexperienced,

674
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Speaker 2: and maybe don't have the machine to do a certain

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Speaker 2: stitch or something. So maybe the quality of their shirts

676
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Speaker 2: is a bit shit. But their denim's great. So it's

677
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Speaker 2: really hard to make a general I get it asked

678
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Speaker 2: all the time, like what's your favorite high quality brands?

679
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Speaker 2: And it's so hard because it's hard to make a

680
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Speaker 2: generalized statement. But what I guess I could say is

681
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Speaker 2: I actually really like Glasson's denim.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think their denim's great for the price point. I

684
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: think they use recycled cotton. I think their construction methods

685
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Speaker 2: are great, the level of wash that they get in

686
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Speaker 2: their denims gray, and I think the color fastness is

687
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Speaker 2: good so it doesn't fade really fast. I think Unicloniate ware,

688
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Speaker 2: which was spoken about, is a plus. And I actually

689
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Speaker 2: really like Nude Lucy's linen. I think it's really dense

690
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Speaker 2: and heavy weight. They have a really great linen, and

691
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Speaker 2: in my experience working with linen, it can be really

692
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Speaker 2: expensive to increase the weight and density, so they do

693
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Speaker 2: such a good job. That's what comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: And then for me, would you say Jackets Vintage Vintage?

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Speaker 2: I really like Country Road and Cause, but not as affordable,

696
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Speaker 2: but they never let me down in terms of their construction,

697
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Speaker 2: especially Country Road. Their fabric choices are amazing and Vican woods.

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Speaker 2: They even have like manufacturing in Australia, which is just

699
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Speaker 2: so impressive in this climate.

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Speaker 3: But and those last three brands, you can also get

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Speaker 3: through Meyer and David Jones, who very often do sales

702
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: and discounts. So I think that's yeah, I love a depop. Yeah,

703
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 3: and like look out for warehouse sales as well. My god,

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Speaker 3: that's been probably my favorite thing this year is I've

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Speaker 3: gotten into warehouse sales obsessed. But we also wanted to

706
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: play save or slurge, So we'll give you a different

707
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Speaker 3: item and then you tell us whether you should save

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Speaker 3: your money and go the more affordable route or splurge

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Speaker 3: and it's worth your money.

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Speaker 1: Of course.

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Speaker 3: This has got catllacs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also it's general general advice, save or

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Speaker 1: splurge denim.

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Speaker 2: Splurge especially, like I said, with the denim brands, they

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Speaker 2: are specialized in what they do, so absolutely spurt.

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Speaker 3: What's the max amount you would spend on a good

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Speaker 3: pair of denim jeans?

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Speaker 2: Three hundred more? Like, if I'm buying like a Goldie,

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Speaker 2: I would buy them. Okay, what are they five hundred? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would do it yeaheah.

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Speaker 1: Alex found the best pair of a Goldie jeans for

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Speaker 1: me in a Vinnie's for fifteen dollars and they were

723
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Speaker 1: a more crop style so that actually fit me like

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Speaker 1: a glove. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the thing. I didn't give them to her

726
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 3: straight away. I tried them on and they were too short.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was like, you fucking going in she

728
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: put them on. I was like, but I was glad

729
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: that one of us got got it. Yeah. Faux fur.

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Speaker 2: I I would spend up to three hundred dollars I

731
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Speaker 2: think on faux fur. So I guess splurge. Yeah, I

732
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: think the really cheap ones are look like plastic. Yeah,

733
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Speaker 2: and I guess it all is plastic because it's faux fur.

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Speaker 2: But I think as you go a little more expensive,

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Speaker 2: the brands use a higher quality of faux fur because

736
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Speaker 2: you can have higher quality or lower quality of anything.

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Speaker 2: So I think I would splurge on it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, save or splurge faux leather or swayed.

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Speaker 2: Same as fur. I think I probably would spend three hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would gri vintage first, but I guess splurge again,

741
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: like the cheaper ones, they're just shiny, and especially with Swede,

742
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: it's just a low quality Swede. It just looks like

743
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: it just collapses in.

744
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like fluffy.

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00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah Yeah, and it looks fluffy, like almost flity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Save or splurge.

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Speaker 1: White T shirt, a plain white T shirt.

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Speaker 2: Save. I love the uniclor white Tea's my gosh, the

749
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Speaker 2: everes and tea. That's what I'm wating today, twenty four

750
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: ninety nine. In the men's section, Save or splurge. Nitwear splurge.

751
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: I would rather buy no nitwear for the season and

752
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: save up a whole year than to just buy a

753
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Speaker 2: cheap knit.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, yeah, love it And active wear.

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Speaker 2: No, I think there's some good save. I think there's

756
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: some good cheaper alternatives on the market that I even

757
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: wear a pilates in my hot in the hot room

758
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: and it's not see through and it washes really well,

759
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: So I would save.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any go to active wear brands for affordability?

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Speaker 2: I really like cotton non activewear. I think it's good.

762
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I would love to know your thoughts on

763
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: the new direction people are taking on buying direct from warehouse,

764
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: Like we're seeing the rise of direct from warehouse with

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Speaker 3: like multiple factories coming on TikTok after Trump's tariffs and

766
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: being like where the factory for Lululemon, which I'm like,

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00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're allowed to do that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but also like people buying and the rise of like

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00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: cult growth of Sheen and Timu. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 3: on this.

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Speaker 2: The factories coming out and saying they're the supplier for

772
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Speaker 2: hind brands. I call bullshit on that. There's so many

773
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 2: contracts in like IP and things like that that need

774
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: to go in in the process. So I just do

775
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: not think in my opinion, that is true. Even working

776
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 2: in the industry myself, everything is so like you keep

777
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: it a secret like you.

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Speaker 3: Can't under contractionally.

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00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a cool bullshit. Even when you're buying I

780
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: don't know, like a tank air dupe on Ali Express

781
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: and it's the same fabric composition and everyone's like, oh,

782
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: found the tank Care supplier. The thing about that is

783
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: that it's not the tank Care supplier, And the fabric

784
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 2: composition could be the same, but the weight might be different,

785
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Speaker 2: or the finish or how it's been knitted, the density

786
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: of the knit and things like that. So there's so

787
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Speaker 2: many things that go into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bush on it. And I do think there is

789
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Speaker 3: this thing where people sometimes think they find the warehouse

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Speaker 3: or the factory because they'll be on team, for example,

791
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Speaker 3: Ali Express and they're like, oh my god, I found it.

792
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: I found it. But I'm like, I also do think

793
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: often and sometimes these factories are just copying the product

794
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: they've seen it go viral, and you can get misled

795
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: into thinking you've found the supplier and you're getting it

796
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: for unit price. But also as we've done like our

797
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: own products, and the only reason the unit price is

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Speaker 3: that is because you order in certain quantities.

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Speaker 1: Oh it doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: And again this isn't my job, but it doesn't make

801
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: sense for them to be selling at a unit quantity

802
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 3: and them just holding the stock.

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Speaker 1: So in my mind, surely it's got to be shitter quality.

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00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the reason why brands get things at a

805
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 3: small unit price is, like you said about Zara, they

806
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: the volume. So I'm like, it doesn't it doesn't line up.

807
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: So just again, I'm not going to shame anyone on

808
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Speaker 3: what they want to do or how they spend their money.

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Speaker 3: I know we're in a cost of living crisis, but

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Speaker 3: I just don't want anyone getting misled by thinking they're

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Speaker 3: hacking the system by entering their fashion by error, and

812
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Speaker 3: they're not, and they're not getting the quality that they

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Speaker 3: think they are.

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Speaker 1: And to wrap up, what is your biggest life lesson

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Speaker 1: so far?

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is so easy is be positive. It's so

817
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Speaker 2: not related to anything.

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Speaker 1: I really pride myself on.

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Speaker 2: Being a positive person, and I feel like it's better

820
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: for the people around you, it's better for yourself. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: definitely that.

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Speaker 1: We were absolutely so excited to have you on Black Boy.

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Speaker 1: We love the word.

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Speaker 3: If the chicks aren't following you already, chicks get on it.

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Speaker 3: Where can they find you?

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Speaker 2: I'm on TikTok. I don't post on Instagram and I should.

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Speaker 2: I need to get absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to set you some KPIs and check in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get the chickens to follow you over there.

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Speaker 1: Put some pressure on. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Just Katerinea, Riley, c Ate.

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Speaker 1: Love it.

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Speaker 3: And we'll make sure we link your accounts in the

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Speaker 3: show notes because Kat's going to start posting on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're going to kill it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. And thanks to your chicks for

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Speaker 1: having us in your earhels.

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Speaker 2: You know we love to be here.

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Speaker 1: And thank you to Producy for having us today. Bye

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Speaker 1: cheek bye,