WEBVTT - Jordan Clark - #238 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.880 Welcome to person number one podcast. You're listening to the 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.280 Jamo and Dylan Show. 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.680 Yeah, yeah, we're on the way That dance bra a 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.600 little Mad Trip with before is celeb gooday, guys, and 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:13.600 welcome back to the jam Or and Dylan Show. Today 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:15.840 we have a very special guest, one of my favorite 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.439 AFL players. Welcome to the show, Jordan Clark. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.480 Thanks, Hamy lad. It's a bit of a privilege. 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.560 Oh thanks for making the time, bro. We really appreciate it. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:25.880 We've had time on a Sunday come on the show. 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:27.600 Especially after a big game last night. 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:28.320 Yeah. 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.760 No, it was a decent game. Don't really like the 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.000 web myself, but it's good to get through and have 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:33.560 a nice win. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.040 Sound. Team's going all right, great season, haven't you so far? 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:37.600 Yeah? 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.520 Yeah, well we've Yeah, we've had a few games. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:43.639 We've been a little bit inconsistent and certainly reflected the scoreboard. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.879 I think against West Coast and the Doggie sort of 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.959 stands out a little bit. But no, yeah, we're going 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.360 pretty well and I think we're building nicely towards the 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:52.040 back end of the year. 0:00:52.240 --> 0:00:54.240 Dylan and I were actually in the car before talking 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.680 about the season so far and I'm a Doctors supporter, 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.080 deal with actually an Adelade supporter. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.800 I'm a crazy man. So it's a pointing season this 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:01.560 year majorly. 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:04.360 But we were talking about that West Coast game in particular, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.520 and obviously it would have been a tough game for 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.200 you guys because you just shocked. Really, what were your 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.959 thoughts on that game and how have you and the 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:14.800 boys turned it around from that moment? 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:16.959 Only if you had a tough three weeks. You had 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.360 the Carlton loss, the Port loss, then the West Coast loss, 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.720 so that could derail the season pretty easily. What, yeah, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.600 what kept it together? How did you turn it around 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:26.080 in the club? 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.440 I suppose going back to that, looking at the Port 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:31.680 and the Carlton lost, there are probably two at the time, 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.000 two of the best teams in the colm. Obviously would 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.920 have had their struggles a bit of late, but they're 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.840 still very very talented side and very good side and 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.120 Carlton sort of speak for himselfs So you know, we 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.880 challenged them right up until within one kick I suppose, 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:46.360 and could have gone either way. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.920 And yeah, West Coast game, we just got a lot wrong. 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.720 And take no credit off there. I suppose that they 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:54.480 have a very good team. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.120 They had quite a lot of their players in from 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.080 that flag they won, and you know, they have some 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:01.480 very good experienced players around some really high talented young kids, 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:03.880 so when they get it right, they're a very good 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:04.440 team as well. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.840 Definitely some exciting players too. Harley Reed's set the tournament 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:08.280 on light. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.240 Yeah. Yeah, he's been good so far this season for 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:13.000 a first year as well, one of the most impressive 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.320 and he's adapted really well, it seems to AFL. 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.040 Yeah. No, he's certainly a freak. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.760 He tore us apart that night, and it's good to 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.280 see a young kid like that going well. And I 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.880 suppose it's quite a lot of pressure on him and 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:27.840 it's good to see him performing and handling that. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:29.280 Just on that. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.959 So obviously you went to Geelong pick fifteen twenty eighteen. 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:34.919 I just want to talk about your time over there 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.560 and what pressure you felt being a top twenty pick, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.880 Like was there a bit of expectation or. 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.200 Was you along pretty good with how they treated you? 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.200 Yeah, well, there's not really any pressure. I suppose the 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.440 biggest pressure is the pressure you put on yourself, true, 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:50.720 and as a young fellow trying to work that out, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.840 I suppose there's the pressure of coming in you want 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.200 to play straight away. You think that it just happened 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:58.520 straight away, and it's probably the worst. One of the 0:02:58.560 --> 0:02:59.960 worst things that did happen to me is I come 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.240 straight in. I didn't really have a pre season. I 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.360 had Glensla fever. I'd played a lot of cricket in 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.240 my junior years and never done a pre season and 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.480 just sort of came in, slided in, and I thought 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.320 that was pretty easy and didn't really probably get the 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.760 memo of you know, I have to really earn my 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.080 spot and work really hard and work out what I 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.280 need to you know, put in front of other things 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.440 and what the value. And then when those setbacks came 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:24.160 sort of pretty they're pretty tough to handle because you 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.160 start putting all the pressure on yourself. I'd never been 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:27.880 dropped before at the time, I'm living on the other 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.520 side of the country and it was, yeah, come back 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.799 to all the pressure that I was putting on myself, thinking, 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.040 you know, my family and my friends judged. 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:35.480 Me because I'm. 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:39.320 I think once I got my head around that my 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.200 family and my friends don't actually care that I play 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.920 footy's I'm just Jordan I'm still my dad's son and 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.400 my brother's brother and mum's son and that sort of thing, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.839 my sister's brother, and and that's all they see me as. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.600 And I made those little setbacks quite easy to handle. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:54.920 That's awesome, that's sick. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:55.240 Yeah. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.120 We hear a lot of that, like separating footy from life, 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.680 Like people make footy their whole life, and I guess 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.040 that's not the way to go about it. 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.880 Yeah, yeah, I certainly have never been one to live 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.480 and breathe it as such as particularly early in my 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.120 AFL career, I've you know, I was pretty blase and 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:16.320 didn't really value the preparation side of things and quite raw. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.920 Suppose not through ignorance or anything like that, it's. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.120 Probably quite raw. 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:21.960 And played a lot of cricket, and you know that 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:25.120 sort of culture of a cricketer is not lazy, but 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.039 pretty laid back, and you can get away with a 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.400 bit more of you can just yeah, I suppose back 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:32.440 in your brought talent a bit more on the cricket 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.279 over than you can on a footy over, because you know, 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:36.839 you need to cover a lot more ground out on 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.400 the oval, your body needs to be right or and 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.640 that sort of thing, but and your weight and that 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.240 sort of thing. So yeah, it wasn't through ignorance. It 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.640 was probably through just being quite raw and not knowing 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.120 what I do know now. So yeah, it was an 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:50.120 interesting period for. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:50.840 Me, definitely. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.440 Yeah, I just want to touch on that cricket stuff 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.039 in a bit more depth in a little bit, but 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:59.600 let's go back to where you're born, growing up in 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:03.600 alban and what your family dynamic is. And I know 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.560 you've got a few brothers, so yeah, what's that being 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.120 like and give us a little bit about your upbringing. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.920 Yeah, so actually I was born in Mandra, Yeah, and 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.000 I'm one of one of five, so I've got an 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.440 older brother, two younger brothers and a younger sister. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.840 Competitive household, I'm assuming growing up. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.599 Yeah, we are competitive beasts in the household and it's 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:25.520 very highly strung at times when the games come out. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.760 But yeah, I sort of lived Inmandra right up. 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.520 Until I was thirteen, and footy had been a large 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.720 part of my life. Dad worked at the Greyhounds when 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.840 I was quite younger. So again, just sort of trying 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.640 to pick winners against your brother and stuff like that 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.800 at a very young age and always wanting to beat 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.040 each other in running races and that sort of thing. 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:45.840 And then yeah, Dad sort of moved on to the 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.880 job at pill Thunder and was the CEO there for 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.320 probably I think about five or six years, and that 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.720 sort of wrapped up and funny thing, Dad actually wrote 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.080 the alignment between Peel and fre and sort of Dad 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.920 left there and we moved to Albany. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.240 And yeah, it was in that period. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.360 You know, I told Dad and AFL clubs, I'm just 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.040 jumping a bit forty that I'd never play a game 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:09.400 for free. 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:10.279 I'd never ever. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.680 Wanted to go. Oh, so did you not go for them? 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:13.039 Growing up? 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.640 I was a massive West Coast fan and yeah, so 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:17.880 then did my time in Albany. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:20.520 I did about two years there. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.360 And what was the move down there due to just. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:23.960 To change it up. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:25.840 Dad Mum wanted to get out Amander or get out 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:28.520 of Perth as such and go to a regional sort 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:31.400 of town and Dad got a pretty nice job down there, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.640 and so we sort of moved down there for a 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.880 couple of years. And yeah, it was a great time 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.160 down there, but long term probably our family didn't see 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.360 ourselves down there, that's for sure, And I ended up 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:47.000 coming back to Guildford in year eleven on a scholarship, 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.640 and then in the year twelve Mum and Dad moved 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:52.279 the rest of the family sort of back up to 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:54.679 Perth and we've been here ever since. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.160 Did you enjoy your time in high school? 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:56.680 Do you have fun? 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.440 Was it fun being a footy prospect as well growing up? 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:00.760 Yeah, well it was funny. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.479 Actually when I was in year ten at Albany Senior 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.840 High School, I wasn't actually a footy Prospero's probably more 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.080 of a creating prospect. And I missed I was in 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.320 the State footage so that's a bit of a lie. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.880 I was in the state footage program that time too, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.160 but I missed like a significant amount of school. And obviously, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.480 for people that don't know, Album is about four hours 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.800 away from Perth, and I to get to training at 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.200 the Whacker some nights and I had to be there 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.400 and sort of thing. So Mum and Dad either or 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.920 would drive me to the Whacker drive me back up 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:37.080 sometimes three times a week around trips, and I was 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.440 missing days and days of school and I think I 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.360 missed over one hundred days of school in year ten, 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.360 So yeah, I kind of did enjoy that part, so 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.160 I wasn't really hitting the books that hard and never 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:49.520 really had the endeavor. 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.880 To do that, but yeah, it was sort of sport 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:52.120 for me. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.160 But yeah, year eleven and twelve when I moved to 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:58.680 Guildford on a scholarship with my mates in boarding that 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.360 my mates now, but at the time I had no 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.280 idea about anyone there, apart from my best mate, one 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:06.800 of my best mates who I played a lot of 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:08.880 cricket with. He was from Bustleton and we sort of 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:11.360 connected through regional tours and that sort of thing, played 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.720 in the state team and the Assie team together, and 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.800 he said he's going to Guildford on an academic scholarship. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.280 So he was quite smart and he ended up being 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.600 the only factor why I went to Guildford because I 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.400 said to Dad, I don't know anyone. I don't leave 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.080 the family. I was pretty family Orientated'd love being around home, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.400 my brothers, my siblings and all that sort of thing, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.480 and so yeah, and the end went to Guildford and 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.160 absolutely loved it, like it was the best time in life. 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.120 Boarding house just all boys at that time, and yeah, 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:39.600 it was a great culture, great fun. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.240 Didn't do a lot of school work. 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:43.520 But a lot of fun though. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.280 Yeah, we always say the PSA schools look like a 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:48.080 lot of fun, don't they. Even the way they treat 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.120 sport is a sort of a next level to how 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.720 our school did. It. Always kind of envious of that culture. 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.840 We went to, like a low level private school. They 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.559 focused more on like drama and arts our school. So 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:01.560 this warding was a little bit on the on the 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:02.560 back ped We. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.640 Were playing year twelve footy and we played the same 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:06.959 school twice. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.760 That was our season. Yeah, that's all we got. It's 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.040 not even like a regional school or anything. I expect 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.520 that where they just didn't care to know. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.840 Yeah, like the footy program was awful, if there even 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.240 was one. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.280 Yeah, liturgical dance was killer, wasn't it. Yeah, they love that. 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.960 Even though cricket we had a specialist cricket class. There 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.200 was maybe like eight people in there. It was just 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.200 so bad. I love my cricket and I played heaps 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.079 growing up, but like at school, there was just no pathway. 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.960 I guess on the weekends there's obviously district cricket and whatnot, 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:35.880 but I didn't get very far. 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.480 I wouldn't have said Guildford really prioritize their sport as well. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.320 Amount of one hundred point beltings I played in at 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.520 Guildford was yeah, it's probably more than ten. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:47.880 So yeah. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.240 But cricket, yeah, we actually were very good in our 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.200 year twelve year we took that out and that was 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.280 quite fun and it is quite competitive. There is a 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.480 bit of an aura around PSA sport, yeah, I must say. 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:04.240 But yeah, didn't say it's any different to cults for 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:05.880 footy or district cricket. 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:06.240 Or anything like that. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.360 It's just, yeah, I think the fact that you're a 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.679 private school and they you know, it's sort of they 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:12.320 just want to beat each other, the rivalries and. 0:10:12.480 --> 0:10:15.440 Yeah, yeah probably makes it a little yeah. 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.160 Yeah, that's not putting any disrespect on the PSA schools 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.199 or anything like that, but yeah, it is. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:21.480 It is beat up a fair bit. 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:21.920 Okay. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.280 I've seen that in YouTube on YouTube as well. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.760 A lot of the Victorian PSA schools have all their 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.600 videos filmed as they do here as well, but they've 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.400 got highlight packages for every single player. It's shot like 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.160 in four K really well, and it's like this real 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.679 tribal feeling around sport. In like year eleven and twelve 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.240 whereas ours was just more casualty that was around like 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.480 liturgical dance. Yeah yeah, yeah, just crazy different. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.080 I guess that's the way it goes. 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:49.120 And we always say. 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.400 Like if we could turn back time, like not that 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.440 we have regrets because obviously we didn't pick where we 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.160 wanted to go to school, but like we would like 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.679 to have gone to like a Pso. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.080 The culture, I think, yeah, yeah, I guess the Bondsi mate. 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.720 This seems like good makeship happens as well, which is cool. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.000 Because I've got a few mates from Guildford and they 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:07.640 love their time. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.560 So where the you above you at school? 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.040 So yeah, a couple of those boys you'd probably know, 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.679 but yeah, they had a great time and I've heard 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.160 a lot of stories and yeah they love their sport. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.200 So when did it click for you that I could 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.400 probably be an AFL player? 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:26.920 Yeah, sort of didn't click for me for a while. 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:31.960 Probably cricket clicked for me first. And I loved my 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.080 sport growing up. And I was never like super quick 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.600 bowl or anything when I was young, And there is 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.840 like a moment where I just decided bowl fast, Like 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.800 it was like I remember the moment clear as day. 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:45.160 How I would have been about fourteen fifteen around now, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:48.120 and I won't like name him or anything like that, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.160 but there's a kid who down the other und it 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.640 was quite talented, and he was just like taking the piss, like. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:55.880 Just put me wherever he wanted to. 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:58.800 Is it a name we'd know, No, not really okay 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:02.040 yet nobody. 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.200 Talented at the time. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.599 Yeah, and sort of hitting me to all parts and 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.920 not letting me know, but just you know, a bit 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.680 cocky about I just got this like competitive. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:14.800 Edge about me. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.400 I hate getting beaten. It's like you know, and you 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.800 just try harder and harder and harder, just thinking it's 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:23.320 going to be faster. It was one of those moments. 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.200 So I just went right, I'm going to run in 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:26.880 as fast as I can and I'm just going to 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:27.720 try and knock. 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:29.640 His head off. And then I let it rip, and 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.679 I was like, I can actually felt pretty. 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.520 Quick if I try, so you'd never tried that. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.880 I just sort of wandered in and just rolled it over. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.800 And you know, I always wanted to be a wicked 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.680 keeper in a batter, and I was not quite a 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.079 batter and not quite a wicked keeper, And yeah, it's 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:45.559 sort of happened. Quite quickly and then footy back to 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.520 the footy one. It didn't really click for me. 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.199 I was you're always. 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.520 There thereabouts, like you know, but you're making the squads 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.160 in Albany and Country and stuff, and it's not quite 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.360 the same as you're in Perth. You don't really know 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:58.320 the pull of talent up he is so much bigger 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:01.280 and more depth and that sort of thing. And probably 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:05.320 wasn't until I played State sixteens, but I was probably average, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.720 probably in the bottom six players I suppose. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.439 And what position were you playing in State sixteen It's like. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:16.520 A wing, yeah, wing, high, half forward, not really getting 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:17.400 near it to be fair. 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.480 So no defense time as a junior. 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:24.960 No. My first defense game was at Clemont, my first 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.800 Colts game. I told Dad they Clemont sort of said, oh, 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:29.839 we want you to come and try and play in. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.640 The Colts when you get a chance. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.000 So I did that and got my first game and 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.120 got told us playing at half back, and I remember 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.680 getting in the car to Dad and got on the 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.080 phone or too. Daddy might have picked me up and said, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.800 I don't even want to play. I'm playing in the 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.240 back line. Who wants to play in defense? And that 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.720 was pretty much the move that nailed my spot in 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.320 the back line, but yeah, probably wasn't until halfway through 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.160 the State adeens where we played against Austra in the 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.800 first game and I was on the wing and we 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.240 got towed up, absolutely belted. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.319 Who were some of their players in that. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:08.760 Drunken, lacocious rosy Like okay, Frederick's like, yeah they were handed. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:09.880 That's a pretty stacked team. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:10.920 Yeah, And. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.040 Yeah, got belted, played on the wing, didn't see it, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.720 and I actually thought my career is done. Yeah, like 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.320 I thought I was spoken to an AFL club, So 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.840 I thought, you know, I'm probably I really want to push. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.280 My case it might be a rookie chance. Yeah this stage. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.960 And then the next game we had an injury or 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.000 something in the back line and I got moved back 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.240 and I was like, this is good and the confidence 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.800 in me just sort of come out because I've played 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:34.760 here for the last two years. 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.680 This is ideal spot. 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:37.560 And then it all started. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.360 Yeah, without being a standout gamer, and I think it 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:42.640 was a solid game and didn't get a heap of 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:43.720 the ball, but it was all right. 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:45.480 And then the next two games I just sort of 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:46.960 came into. 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.760 My own where I was just like so confident and 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.040 I'm not trying to put myself up here. It's just 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.280 like that was probably the moment for me where I thought, oh, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.360 I can actually, you know, match it with some of 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.040 these kids, because I did fear a lot of kids 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.000 at that age where you know how they beat up 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:02.920 Victorian players. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:04.280 You're coming up against Sam. 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.680 Walsh, Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you've got Bailey Smith and 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.280 there's kind of Rosie and you're just like, I've never 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.480 heard of these kids and they're talking like Gary, yeah, yeah. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:13.800 Very good players. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.800 And so at the time I sort of feared that, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.080 like and then there was probably those moments when you 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.560 start getting your hands on the ball and getting involved 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.640 and just like maybe I am quite up to the level. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.280 I don't know, And yeah, it sort of took a 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:29.720 couple of games, I suppose. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:30.560 To really realize the moment. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.800 It's actually funny asked that question. I was thinking about 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.320 it on the way here to got a bit off 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.520 track in the car. I was thinking about It's funny 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.560 how you always have a moment, But like, what if 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:41.360 you missed that moment? 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.160 Yeah, how quick it came out, how different you laugh 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.440 at it? Yeah, like if you you said what it 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:48.760 was an injury? Did I imagine if that never happened, 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.640 you know what happens? Do you get rookie drafted? You 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.480 don't you go to different clubs or you never know 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:54.000 what could happen? 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.640 Right, Yeah, So it's actually funny because I was thinking 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.800 literally about that in the car, like if that injury 0:15:58.840 --> 0:15:59.880 never happened. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.480 Yeah, probably knows right time and place. 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.240 Yeah, what about the choice. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:07.880 Was it like a conscious choice for you to go, 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:10.480 I'm going to go, I've got more opportunity in the 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.960 AFL path pathway or was it like you weren't getting 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.080 selected for cricket teams or did the love die or 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:17.000