WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 20 May 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:06.400 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. I 0:00:06.519 --> 0:00:08.640 thought about that in real term, Taylor. Of course he's 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:09.200 not a hecklet. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:10.760 I thought it was a fund thing to say, even 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:12.840 though I'm in a completely different location than he is, 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.760 in the secret location that is the man Cave. So 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:19.720 do you think all of our those prayers have come 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:21.119 true since. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:21.680 Going to the Pope? 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:23.479 Like, not only did he go, oh look in our 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.400 ninety something seats. Let's get the coalition to bust itself 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.480 up on that front. David Little Proud, the only interview 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.520 who is doing tonight is here on PALMRI Live. Speak 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.560 to him in a couple of moments' time. Also, the 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.080 Joe Biden health cover up, a man who of course 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.159 has presidential health care. It's up there with the King 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.480 of England about how often they're checking your poulse, double 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:50.320 checking your bloods, But apparently they completely forgot for the 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.840 four years that he was president to double check his PSA. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.080 And of course we now know that he is apparently 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:02.720 suffering from a terminal cancer, terminal prostate cancer. Well, there's 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.240 plenty of cover up that's being thrown around, and there's 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.319 also preenenty left. He saying, oh no, no, we cannot 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.880 investigate this matter. A person who will not take those 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.120 comments lying down. Instead, she stands up, she looks as 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.360 straight in the eyes the great Meghan Kelly. We are 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:18.920 joined by her a bit later in the show. 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.200 They have been covering this up for years. That's my 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:25.679 informed opinion. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:28.880 All right to the news of the day before we 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.039 get to the politics. If you are paying off a 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:33.640 house like me and a third of the country. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:38.360 Little tinsy wincy, little. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.160 Little bit of good news. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.319 For the first time in two years, Australia's official cash 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.920 rate is sitting below four percent. The Reserve Bank Board 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.480 decided to slash its official rate by a quarter of 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:49.480 one percent. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:54.160 The Reserve Bank announcing its second rate hunt for the year. Hello, Amy, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.840 Now why did they cut the rate today? Second time 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.200 this year? The first time was in February. That was 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.040 a massive mover of millions of people when it come 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.680 to voting, it came to voting at the federal election. Well, 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.040 the Reserve Bank governor tells us why we got a 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.960 little tinsy wincy wincy cut today. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.480 Now we've done this because the most recent quarterly CPI 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.320 confirmed that both headlined and underlying inflation are now under 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:23.040 three percent, so price increases have slowed and it's fairly 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.400 broadly based. And this is very good news. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:30.280 And remember Jim Chalmers just happened to put out during 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:34.480 the election that this is just one of a cascading 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.520 amount of rate cuts to come. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.800 Markets are now expecting around four intrast rate cuts in 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.360 Australia this calendar year. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.160 Oh maybe not. Why Orange Man bad. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.160 Remember they've got a complete cover story for the next 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:58.160 four years. Whatever bad happens in Australia, Trump's fault, whatever 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.600 good happens in Australia charmers responsibility. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.280 You see how this is going to work well. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.440 According to the Australian newspaper and its analysis of what 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:10.919 was being said by the Reserve Bank today, they say 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.800 that mortgage relief for Midians, but the RBA is not 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.760 expected to do much more, meaning don't get ready. Well 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.840 that's probably about as many cuts it's going to come 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.120 our way. Now I'm going to on and off with 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:22.919 the glasses and you can see the Commodore sixty four 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:26.919 is doing great tonight. But geopolitical uncertainties also remain pronounced 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.160 that these developments are expected to have an adverse effect 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:35.240 on global economic activity, particularly of households and firms delay expenditure, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:40.160 pending greater clarity on the outlook. Translation this might be 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.680 it so the suggestion of four or maybe five, because 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.560 you see, the economy was going to be so bad 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.760 because of Trump, but then the stock market leveled out 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.280 both here and in the United States, that the promise 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.040 that of course was not at all political during an 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:59.520 election campaign for four maybe five rate cuts this calendar year, well, 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:01.200 we may will be tapping out at two. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:01.440 Now. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.080 As a person paying off a mortgage, I want there 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:08.400 to be seven, eight nine cuts. But let's also put 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.960 this in some context. One of the reasons why perhaps 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.440 the streets are not being filled like they were at 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:17.520 the end of World War II with celebrating Australians knowing 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.720 that tyranny was behind them, was because the total amount 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.200 that the average person on about a six hundred something 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.159 one thousand dollars mortgage has had to pay since the 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.599 interest rates started to go up in twenty twenty two 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.359 is a grand total of an extra eighteen thousand dollars 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.159 per year. That's been at least more than one year. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.080 So you can do your own sums there the February cut. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:44.479 The May cut is two four hundred dollars off each 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.160 and every year. Now, good, but you've already had to 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:52.039 spend what thirty something thousand dollars extra, So forgive me 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.479 if two thousand dollars is not going to result in 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.120 people running around in the streets. However, the Treasurer, of course, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:03.719 remember bad news Trump, good news charmers and today being 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:09.160 a good news day asterisk maybe well, Chalmers of course, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.240 patting himself on the back. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.320 This is the second interest rate cart in the last 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:18.720 three months. It does reflect the very substantial and sustained 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.120 progress that we've made together on inflation in our economy. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:23.200 Now. 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.720 I don't know if she's auditioning for a job in 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.640 what is now an increasingly smaller pool of people to 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.960 choose from when it comes to the Opposition and its 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.440 front bench, but the freshly re elected Member for Flinders, 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.040 Zoey McKenzie, well, she nailed the reality today when she 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:40.440 was having a chat with Chris Kenny that yes, down 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:44.800 is good. Down is good, but it is not way down. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:49.080 And remember thirteen up two down means the collective pressure 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:53.039 of eleven interest rates is still there on the average homeowner. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.920 I'm sure Jim Chalmers having a great time patting himself 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.520 on the back for today's one increment in the right direction. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.239 But we've got a long way to go before there's 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.640 confidence in business circles and an ability for businesses to 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.520 keep growing and keep employing, keep providing opportunity for Australians. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.240 So any other political news around today. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:18.400 The coalition is over, the Nationals walking away from the 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:22.120 Liberals in a public split from the decades old alone. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.920 Is the Liberals and Nationals are splitting up, failing to 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:25.800 reach a deal. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.960 The Liberal National partnership coming to an end after almost 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:31.240 eighty years. 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.680 It's almost like they're excited to bring you the news. 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:35.719 For his part, and we will talk to David Little 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.680 Proud at a couple of minutes time. This was his 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:41.160 logic behind this history making decision that was announced this 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:42.120 afternoon in Canberra. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.880 Those positions that we couldn't get comfort around a nuclear 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.520 being part of an energy grid into the future. About 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.599 the reason Australia Future Fund a twenty billion dollar fund 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.120 paying a one billion dollar dividend every year, above and 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:01.000 beyond to change the lives of regional Australians. About employing 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.240 and training some doctors, to actually filling in some potholes, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.359 to actually giving young families the hope of childcare what 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.600 we fight for every day. That's the principal position we 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.640 took that we needed to have comfort around. It's around 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.680 divestage powers for supermarkets. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.040 As for Susan Lee, here she was in camp responding 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.440 to what apparently was an announcement. She got about thirty 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:25.480 minutes notice. 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:31.280 Of will listen, will step up, we'll modern eye and 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.240 we will rebuild. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.880 For their part, as you've seen on our airwaves tonight 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.280 on all our excellent programs. So to all of my 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.080 wonderful mates, you've seen leaders from the past who have 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.640 been very successful in Australian politics believing that today is 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.960 a mistake being made by the National Party. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.320 I am very sorry that this has happened and I 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:58.480 urge both parties to work over time to put the 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:03.280 collision back together again, because all the history of Australia 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.800 suggests that the glory days of the Liberal Party and 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.280 the National Party, the Old Country Party, are when they 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:12.360 are working together in government. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.960 There's no doubt in my mind that experience shows over 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.800 the eighty years that the coalition agreement has been in 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:25.000 place that working together produces better government for the country 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.640 and Australian needs better government now more than ever. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.040 Two very smart, very sober blokes so I hope are 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:38.800 involved in trying to put the parties back together. As 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.640 one of millions of people who wanted these two parties 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:47.160 to form a government just a few weeks ago, I 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.439 share every bit of deflated feelings that you feel tonight, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.000 But as always been a by election, state election, federal election, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.680 or any big event, you know. I try to break 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.160 it down with five things that are rolling around in 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.160 my head now food for thought, not the final say, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.800 not the purity test, just what I'm thinking tonight at 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.000 the head of what is going to be very long 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:11.160 road to the future. Number one, Yes, time a part 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.360 may be helpful. Put simply, thent's say that the Libs 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.920 are Labor light. The Libs say that the National Party 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.520 has forced them to be the National Party light. The 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.920 reality is is that sometime a part means that they 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.280 will be able to say what they are, who they are, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:30.120 what they stand for, and presumably come an election or 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.480 after an election, or when it seems like they may 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.120 win elections, they of course may well, come back closer together. 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.040 I certainly hope that not nasty words are said, and 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.679 I certainly hope that when three cornered contests, because that 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:43.920 is the reality of the National Party and the Liberal 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:47.320 Party not playing the same game. Is that when they 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.920 come up in competition against each other, that they complement 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.400 each other, that they do not attack each other, and 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.520 the inevitable personality stuff can be put to one side, 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.960 but that maybe will be some wishful thinking Number two 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.000 where they stay apart. The worse this gets because people 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:04.000 become entrenched. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.800 I won't move, you won't move. I won't change, you 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:08.800 won't change. 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.920 And sadly, as many people may know in their own 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.960 personal life, the longer the trial separation goes, the more 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.600 likely it is to end in a divorce rather than 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:22.480 getting back together. Number three. All of this only makes 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.400 Labor more powerful. Here are the numbers when it comes 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.160 to the Parliament. Now, it doesn't matter, because of course 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.520 the government can pass legislation with its eyes closed and 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.240 half of its MPs drunk in a bar. But the 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:38.360 reality is that with more than ninety MPs that are 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.600 the Labor Party. 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:45.200 Barely thirty MPs. In fact, a little bit less that 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:46.520 are there for the. 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:48.840 Liberal Party, and depending on how you count the LNP, 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.439 there's not a huge amount of National Party MPs they're 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.560 in the Federal Parliament. This of course means that if 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.720 they are trying to put Labor on the ropes over 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.000 the inevitable failures of the next three years, they'll have 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.680 two completely different strategies when it comes to question time. Literally, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:06.920 the National Party will now probably have as much access 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:11.920 to question time as the single Greens MP does. They 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.280 won't be shadow ministers, pay will all be effected. But 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.040 as I'll talk about with David Little Proud, they believe 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.520 that this is the best way to guarantee that they 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.239 remain a force in Australian politics. Now, I wouldn't imagine 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:27.720 that you're going to end up with Nationals running against 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.199 Liberals in inner urban seats, but you might see things 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.560 on the fringes of cities. All of that only makes 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.240 labor more powerful. And for those of us who wanted 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.680 labor to be less powerful after this election, again, I 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:43.960 share your sense of deflation. 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:45.360 Number four. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.559 I think the timing of this is unfair to Susan Lee. Now, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.040 please don't write me like some people do. Oh you're 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.199 always oh you girlfriend, Susan Lek grow up. The simple 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.439 point is is that this could have happened next week, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:02.880 It could have happened next month. I don't understand how 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.680 the leadership staff was playing out in the final days 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.360 of her mum's life. And I don't understand why this 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.000 hammerblow happens before she's had an opportunity to have a 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.880 funeral for her mum. I don't understand that that's a 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.480 difficult question, but I'll be asking it to. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.680 David little Proud directly in a moment or two's time. 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:19.040 And five. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:26.439 This yet again underlines another hard line of division in Australia. 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:32.480 Under fifty verses over fifty two very different worldviews, gender, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:37.080 two very different worldviews, and now city versus country. And 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.080 as a person who loves the bush as much as 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.240 I do the cities, a person who is looking forward 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.640 to go into places like Cans, who's been proud to 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.439 do shows in cal Ghooley, who's been proud to broadcast 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:53.120 from Mount Isa, who loves being able to do shows 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:58.280 in Lonceessten, who's been privileged enough to broadcast from Alice Springs, 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:02.800 and many many other places. I want all of Australia 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.679 to have the best of its political representation, and I 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:09.439 want all of Australia to have the best of living standards. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.199 The idea of the National Party and the Liberal Party 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.360 being as far away from government as they currently are, 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.160 and potentially even further away as a result of this move, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.040 means that the people in those regional areas, in my view, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.880 are only going to be further insulted by city centric 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:33.680 labor governments whose state and federal think that because those 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:39.480 local communities vote National more renewables for you, because those 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.160 populations are less than the more densely populated cities, you 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.520 don't get your roads fixed up. The reality of the 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.680 coalition when the National Party is working with the Liberal 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.199 Party in opposition and then in government, the relationship between 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.360 a National Party MP and a Minister of the day 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.200 who may well happen to be the Liberal or the 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.720 capacity to go to the Prime Minister, means that regional 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.640 concerns are front and center. The only party that does 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.000 represent regional Australia is the National Party at a significant 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.480 national level. Yes, there are voices in the Senate, particularly 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.880 when it comes to the representation of one nation in 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.400 the Senate but in terms of our daily politics, in 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.680 terms of the high profile that comes from question Time, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.560 and more importantly, the ability to take a complaint from 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.080 the smallest street of swan Hill and take it all 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:34.400 the way to Canberra. To be working together in a coalition, 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.840 moving your way towards or being government is the best 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:41.360 way to get solutions. Everyone feeling good about purity tests 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:46.200 means everyone will fail at those purity tests. The Labor 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:50.160 Party will of course make its most of divisions. That said, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.560 as I said at the very start, yes, time a 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.320 part may be helpful. I hope it is, but months, 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.480 not years. But if it is years, it will be 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:02.560 many mo four years before anyone but the Labor Party 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:04.920 is going to form government in this country. And for 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.360 my view, that's not a good thing for our country. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.520 As I say, David Little Brown standing by we we'll 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.640 get to him in a moment or two time. He's 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:16.320 been very patient in our conversation. Now I want to 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.880 talk about another very significant political event that took place today, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.280 and it was the budget delivered by the Labor Party 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.880 in Victoria. Now, the Labor Party has been in charge 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.960 of Victoria for the best part of thirty years. They 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.200 have put in place the triangle of dependency. They have 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.600 perfected it where you either work for the government as 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.480 a public servant, you have your hand out as somebody 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.040 who gets money from government, or if you are in business, 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:41.840 your biggest client is government. It's a triangle that would 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.240 affect sixty seventy percent of the population and everything keeps 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:47.040 going their way. 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:48.520 Well. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.840 Today the state budget was released and while it shows 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.720 a asterisk may be surplus, I don't believe it either. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:16:00.400 Let me break something down here for you. The total 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.400 revenue for the State Labor government is one hundred and 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.920 eight billion dollars. The total spending is one hundred and 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:09.920 seven billion dollars. The total spending, by the way of 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.000 one hundred and seven billion dollars, is up three point 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.800 seven billion dollars on last year. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.920 So how is it that. 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:19.880 They are going to end up in a scenario where 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.200 they are going to be able to have a budget surplus. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:24.680 I'll get to that in a second. 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:29.040 But the debt that the Victorian Labor Party has saddled 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:34.080 the good people of Victoria with is one hundred billion dollars. 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:38.080 One hundred billion dollars is basically the entire state budget 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.880 the interest payments we learned today are currently seven point 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.680 six billion dollars and in the year twenty eight to 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:48.960 twenty nine it'll be ten billion dollars per year on 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:53.360 interest alone in trying to pay off ten billion dollars 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:58.080 worth of debt. When you have a look at line 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:02.440 by line in the state budget, ten billion dollars is 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.359 seven billion dollars more than they spend in the entire 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.440 government Department of Energy, Environment and Climate Action. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.640 It is two billion dollars more than they spend in. 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:17.840 The entire Department of Families, Fairness and Housing. 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.000 It is six billion. 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.040 Dollars more than they spend in the entire government Department 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:28.520 of Job, Skills, Industry and Regions. And it's about nine 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.960 point two billion dollars more than they spend on the 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:37.560 court system in Victoria. That's just debt. Australia at the 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.639 federal level is going to follow the model of Victoria, 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.000 which is to rack up the debt, rack up the debt, 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.280 pass a trillion one point to one point five one 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:53.440 point eventually two trillion dollars already in the top ten 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.600 of all of the things that the federal government spends 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.120 money on. Servicing the debt is in the top ten, 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:04.520 seeing the debt is more expensive than some federal department 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:05.640 spend on. 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.200 Services for the Australian people. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.320 But why does the Victorian government, despite the fact that 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.639 they are spending this much on paying off the credit 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:16.200 card while racking up even more money on the credit 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.800 card Because Anthony Albanezi was desperate to win seats in 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.920 Victoria and Victoria voted Labor, so it all worked out right. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:26.879 The only way that they are going to get to 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.000 a surplus is because of a huge increase in the 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:31.840 amount of GST that is coming to the Victorian government 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:37.120 from Canberra. In fact, that is now fifty two billion dollars. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.200 The total amount of tax that the Victorian government takes 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:47.920 is forty one billion dollars. So many state governments, yes, 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.320 almost half of their revenue comes from GST. In Victoria's case, 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:56.040 it's way more than half, and it is way bigger 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.439 than it was last year because the Labor Party in 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.080 Canberra wanted to save its our at a federal election. 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:07.080 But there is no one to bail out the federal 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:11.520 government when they practice the exact same policies as the 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:17.679 Victorian Labor Party. Every budget between now and the next election, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.080 and the one after that, and the one after that 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.040 and the one after that. I promise you I'll point 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.720 it out to you every single time, how the servicing 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.960 of the trillion dollars worth of debt is more than 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:34.040 entire government departments. Because that is exactly what's taking place 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:38.240 in Victoria, and because it has worked for the best 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:40.960 part of thirty years, they will keep doing it in Victoria. 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.840 And as more people work for the government, you can 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.800 scare people that the evil liberals are going to cut 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.200 the number of people working for the government. One cut 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:54.439 equals cuts everywhere. If you turn around and say that 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:59.040 maybe that welfare payment doesn't apply in twenty twenty five 0:19:59.160 --> 0:19:59.879 as it did into. 0:19:59.760 --> 0:20:00.800 That in ten. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:07.040 Now are all welfare recipients should be scared? And if 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.040 you start to upset the apple card as a business, 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:14.600 the government will just cut you off. Elections have consequences, 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.159 and in Victoria the receipts are coming in. It is 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.600 a preview of what is coming down the road for 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:24.639 a Labor party that virtually has no opposition as a 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:28.200 result of what has been taking place in Canberra today? 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.840 Can you know what your thoughts are on anything? Set 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:32.720 me an email ports Gardis dot com dot au. But 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.280 let's get to what has happened today where the National 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:37.639 Party has broken up with the Liberal Party. It was 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.240 the National Party's decision to do so, and its leader 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.760 is David Little Proud. Just before I came on the airlive, 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:45.359 I had an opportunity to talk to him and the 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:47.280 simple question is this on the behalf of millions of 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.399 people who were voting for the coalition to be the 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:50.720 government just a few weeks ago. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.320 What the hell is going on? 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:57.120 And we started negotiations on re entering a coalition agreement, 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.880 but my party room and I got to a juncture 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.960 that there were policy positions that we weren't prepared to 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:07.160 negotiate on, ones that were already coalition policy, that were 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.480 fought for last term, that stood us in good stead 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.320 and would change the lives of regional Australians. And with 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.600 the circumstances that Susan had in terms of wanting to 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:19.600 be able to announce a shadow cabinet, which meant a 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.479 coalition agreement had to be done in the coming days, 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.520 but not being able to give us that comfort or 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.120 guarantee that those policies that we were looking at could 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.360 be guaranteed because she wanted to go through a longer 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:37.960 elongated period of policy formation that we couldn't sign up 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:39.720 to it. Because these are hard fought wings that would 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.479 change the lives of people in Region Australia. They're around 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:49.400 better telecommunications, extending the Universal Service obligation to mobile phone 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:52.000 taels so that Australians aren't put at risk in Regional 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.560 Australia are danger tonight because the tower doesn't work and 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.560 they can't ring triple zero. It's about being able to 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:01.399 have a fund that would bild some childcare places so 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.399 that young families in Regional Australia can send their kids 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:06.800 to childcare and they can get a job. At the moment, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:09.920 it's not about childcare affordability. It's accessibility in the bush. 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.280 And it's about us also having some money to train 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:16.040 our own to be our own doctors and nurses and physios, 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.960 to be able to say that nuclear should be part 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.560 of a technology agnostic mix, and that we should be 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:26.840 prepared to have a deterrent consequence for supermarkets for doing 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:30.640 over farmers but doing over you consumers. And they were 0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.399 things that the National Party of Thought Force in before 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:37.199 I even got to this place. We secured them last term. 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:40.399 They're not new policies, they're ones we think are common sense. 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.320 And our room got to the juncture where unless we 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.280 could get a guarantee and we understood the Liberals wanted 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.119 to go on a journey of rediscovery, or they can. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.080 Do that, we'll be here. A door be opened. 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.920 But we had to have principles, because if we walked 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:57.119 away from that, then we walked away from what was 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.959 going to change the lives of regional Australians. 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:02.480 Susan Lee is in the process of planning a funeral 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:05.960 for her mother. Why not next week? Why not next month? 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:11.240 Something made this happen quickly, very obviously. Okay, if the 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.359 teams couldn't get together, fine and fair enough, it's a 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:14.600 three year electoral cycle. 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.920 But why now, why today? 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:21.080 Well, it was Susan's determination of that. Let me make 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.040 this very clear to you. 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:26.080 Susan rang me the day after being elected and wanted 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:30.360 to fly back to Canberra on last Friday to discuss 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:31.440 coalition agreements. 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:32.800 I've made it very clear. 0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.080 To her on that Wednesday there was no way in 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:35.560 the world I was going to allow her to fly 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:39.240 back and be away from her mother. If she wanted 0:23:39.240 --> 0:23:42.600 to have those discussions and she felt it necessary. 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.320 I would drive to Aubrey. I got in the car 0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:45.640 and drive to Aubrey. 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.120 And met with her for an hour, and then we 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.040 had a discussion, and I came back and our party 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.479 room had a discussion. I went back to her and 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.399 tell her where our party room was. We had further 0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.879 discussions and sadly, her mother died on Saturday. We didn't 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.320 ask for any further discussions. Susan, who initiated those. We 0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:08.280 made it very clear we're in Nahurri in terms of 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:12.239 a coalition agreement or announcing a shadow cabinet. We were 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.920 prepared to work through her personal circumstances, and we made 0:24:15.960 --> 0:24:18.480 it very clear that that was the timeline that she 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:22.080 wanted to set. So Susan's a very strong woman and 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.040 she made it very clear. And I was provided with 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:27.680 a response of what our party room's initial concerns were 0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.480 on Monday night. I took that to the party room 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:37.479 after Susan sent it to me. So the timelines weren't 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.359 predicated by the National Party, predicated by Susan, and the 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.320 respect of the personal circumstances that she had, I was 0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.720 comfortable and our party room was comfortable to keep discussions 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.840 going for as long as that meant for her personal 0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:51.760 circumstances to be addressed. 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:53.879 Okay, well I wanted to do with the elephant in 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.040 the room. Thank you for being open and honest about 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:02.400 your understanding and how you lived those few Now, obviously 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:03.639 at least once a month we go and do a 0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.080 shown regional Australia. It's why I appreciate these conversations, and 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.320 you know how much I want the same standard of 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:14.440 living in regional Australia as there is in city city Australia. 0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.879 There's no butt in this quote. There is, however, a 0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:21.480 political reality that is playing out in lots of different 0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:24.680 electorates and even in sort of the national party view 0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:28.159 of seats right now. Quite correctly, you've said that the 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.800 party has held the line and not lost seats for 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:34.520 election after election after election. Yes, Calaire, which of course 0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:38.080 has a long history of independence. That's the asterisk around 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:39.560 all of this. But I did want to tell you this, 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:40.719 and you know it already. 0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:41.760 In the Seed of. 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:44.600 Kauper you won fifty two to forty eight against a 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:48.240 Teel in the Seed of Page the Labor Greens vote 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.159 went up ten percent. In the set of Line the 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:55.040 Independent and Cannabis parties together their vote went up twenty 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.879 one percent. In the seat of Nichols the Labor Party. 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.920 In the Greens their vote went up fifteen percent. Now, yes, 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.080 there are plenty of others where the National Party vote 0:26:03.119 --> 0:26:06.199 held the Trumpets and one Nation their number went up 0:26:06.240 --> 0:26:09.840 as well. But there are certain tensions that will be 0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:12.960 on the National Party over the next three years that 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.760 may well be what the Liberal Party has not been 0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.600 able to hold up against when it comes to cashed 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:22.320 up country teals running real candidates, not sort of you know, 0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.240 the local fruit loop like some of those that have, 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.200 but some serious money and some serious attention. 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:30.760 That could well be on the way. 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.959 Is the National Party going to be able to win 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.440 a seat like Kauper fifty two forty eight, where yes. 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.240 Nuclear was clearly the policy. 0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.960 But we're having a different conversation in three years time 0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.359 because it feels to me that you, like all major 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:48.320 political parties, you cop it from the left and the right. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:49.320 But I've just shown you a. 0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.320 Few seats where it's the left that are starting to 0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:56.440 show their teeth in Otherwise, proud Green National Party territory. 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.040 Yeah, a great analysis, and you're right. 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:05.040 In fact, we think the till in Kelpers spend somewhere 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.040 between one and two million dollars and we don't have 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.800 that sort of money obviously. But having said that, Calp 0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.680 has always been a probably a two to five percent 0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:16.120 margin seat, so. 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:17.360 We take that seriously. 0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:22.400 And that's why it's important that today's decision is predicated. 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:23.160 On principle and policy. 0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.240 That I can go back to the seat of Calper, 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:27.440 I can go back to page I can go into 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:31.520 Calaire and say, honestly and looking Regional Austrains in the eye, 0:27:32.240 --> 0:27:34.480 the National Party's listening and we're going to make you 0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:36.600 a life better because we're going to have a principal position. 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.760 It's not about the position we might hold in Canberra. 0:27:39.200 --> 0:27:41.840 It's about the policy that's going to change your life 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:43.520 for the better, to make sure that your kids have 0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:44.920 a better future. Because you know why I got into 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:48.320 parliament is because I was jack of seeing generations of 0:27:48.400 --> 0:27:50.520 young people from Western Queensland and go over the Great 0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:52.320 Divide and go to Brisbane and never come home. 0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:54.359 I want to bring them home and keep them home. 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.639 But unless we get our fair share, unless at some 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.440 point we stand up and say, you know what, there 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.119 are lines in the sand that we can't let go of, 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.240 because if we do, then we won't change those lives. 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.439 We won't make the amenity of living in reason Australia 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:08.879 beat it, and we won't bring them home and we 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:10.280 won't keep young people home. 0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:12.480 And that's the Australia I want to leave behind. 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.040 I've been given a very privileged position to come to 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.560 this Parliament and I don't care what people think of me, 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.200 but I want to leave this place knowing that I've 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.040 looked Australians and regional Australians in the eye and I've 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.240 stood for something. I've stood for them, whether I'm right, 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.639 wrong or indifferent. I've stood for them because I believe 0:28:27.680 --> 0:28:29.359 in them and I believe in our future. 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.200 Good on you, David. I like talking to you. You're 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:31.879 a straight shooty. 0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:33.679 You'll take them as as your copham and I hope 0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:35.720 you understand the sprinting which I ask, which is only 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.440 for the joint to be better at and to be 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:39.440 saved from the idiots that well, I'm going to be 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:40.760 running the joint for the next little wile. 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.200 Thank you, mate, appreciate it, thanks mate. 0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.600 Now, despite the fact that, of course that was a 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.760 pre record, you may well have noticed that one of 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:51.719 my five points that I made was about the timing 0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:54.040 and in relation to the personal circumstances in and around 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.600 Susan Lee. Now, obviously I knew what the contents of 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.920 that pre record work. But the reason I included that 0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.520 one of my five thoughts at the start was because 0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.880 that's what many people's emotional reaction to all. 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:08.240 Of this has been, Why did this happen? What's the timing? 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.280 So to hear David Little Proud in his own words 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.480 say that the timing was not of his choosing. Instead, 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.240 it was of the Liberal Party's choosing that clearsed the air, 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.640 which is why in the order in which I presented 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.320 at this evening is the order in which that I 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:29.120 have presented it. I am frustrated tonight, really frustrated tonight, 0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:30.680 but I'm going to tell you this too. 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:34.320 There is an awful lot of people. 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.080 Who want nothing but the center right of Australian politics 0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:44.240 to start getting into a circular firing squad where. 0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:45.040 One person. 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.480 Is more purer and another person needs to be thrown 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:53.200 over the walls. Well, the Australian people at the past 0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.680 two elections have thrown twenty thirty people over the walls. 0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.320 They're former coalition MPs. 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.360 There is a tough, hard, difficult conversation of which I'm 0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:09.080 going to be really honest with you. I've got lots 0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.080 of questions, but I don't have the immediate automatic answers. 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:15.160 And beware, beware. 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:21.400 Of anyone who is saying I know the path because 0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:25.880 we haven't been here before. But can I say to 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:27.719 you who are watching wherever you happen to be, if 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.360 you're watching us on your phone somewhere, if you're watching 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:35.080 us today tomorrow, if you're listening to a podcast. The 0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.320 one thing Albanezi, the Left, the Greens and much of 0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:41.760 the media that hates the very existence of this conversation 0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:43.920 right now. They want us to turn on each other. 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.440 That's why I am frustrated about what has happened today. 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:53.120 Hopefully it has resolved sooner rather than later. But for 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:54.840 those of us who believe that the country is headed 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.240 in the wrong direction with a government that is going 0:30:57.280 --> 0:31:00.760 to take it even further into a wrong direction. Signposts 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:06.000 into our future like what's happening in Victoria, the focus 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:10.880 is not on each other. It's on the rest of 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.360 Australia and not forcing them to believe what we believe, 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:18.360 but for us to have a greater understanding of what 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:23.120 the average Australian does believe does want to match them 0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:27.840 where they are, because that's the reality of having a 0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.800 conversation and trying to convince people. It's why I go 0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.040 to such incredible lengths to put data, data, data, not 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.840 just opinion, in front of you so that when you 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.280 have an argument, a discussion or a disagreement with somebody, 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:46.440 you can pull on some of those facts to perhaps 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.920 get somebody to move ever so slightly this way, ever 0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.080 so slightly that way. 0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:56.600 But I guarantee you this the fight is not within. 0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.600 The fight is always at the people who we think 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.640 are doing harm to the country. Quick break back with 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:03.760 more loss of the debate tonight. 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:04.600 I look forward to it. 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.040 Add lots of your feedback in real time or otherwise 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.600 you can send me an email pau Let's gounews dot 0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:09.360 com free. 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:15.880 Thank you so much for watching wherever you happen to be. 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:18.719 Let's get to a conversation right now with Garth Hamilton, 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.520 freshly reelected as the member for Groom at the federal election, 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.560 and the mayor that we love the most is none 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.520 other than Nicholas Rice, of course, the Lord Mayor of 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:28.120 the City of Melbourne Garth. 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.600 Let's get to you first. So after your name is 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:31.120 l NP. 0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:33.600 So are you an L or are you an N 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.720 or are you a P What the hell happens to you? 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.360 Where do you sit? Do you get to serve or 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.880 not serve? What happens to you in the next couple 0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:44.560 of years. 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.280 Well, look, I'm a member of the LMP. I sit 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.880 with the Liberal Party Room. You may remember it wasn't 0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.320 that long ago that Ian McFarlane tried to switch Groom 0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:56.000 over to the National Party. I think in twenty sixteen. 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.440 You've been to my elector at Paul right where Liberal 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:01.760 meets Nash. You have the beautiful city to wimber and 0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.120 then all that wonderful agricultural and around there. So look, 0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.760 I'll always be a Liberal Party member, but I've got 0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.200 that strong agricultural connection like a lot of Liberal Party 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:10.640 members do. 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.959 Are you cut about what's happened today? 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:19.680 I'm bloody frustrated. Paul, absolutely absolutely, And I booked this 0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:21.400 show with you before this happened, and I've got to 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.200 tell you I had some long, hard thoughts about coming on, 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:28.120 because look, I'm not going to go into it too long, 0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.560 because the longer that we're talking about the coalition agreement, 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:33.080 that's the less time that we're talking about the issues 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:35.440 that we need to be addressing so the Australian people 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:36.640 can get confidence in us again. 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:38.280 But I do want to say this. 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.160 I think this is incredibly poor judgment. I think it 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.600 was great you had David little Proud on before so 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.800 he can state his case. I think it's fair to 0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.800 give him that opportunity. I think this is poor judgment 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.000 and history will not look kindly on what's happened today. 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.720 We're a coalition, We're not always going to be agreeing 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.760 on everything, but we've got to be able to disagree, 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.120 and we've got to be able to trust each other 0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:01.280 that we can have a forceful, strong conversation on things 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.880 we believe in and come out the other side together. 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.320 And today I think walks away from that principle, and 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:08.400 I'm pretty disappointed. 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:10.879 Well, I appreciate that you here, we want to break 0:34:10.920 --> 0:34:13.279 over it, because obviously many hours of that conversation has 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:16.319 happened thus far. But I appreciate you you honoring the 0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:19.120 commitment to be here, no matter how difficult the immediate 0:34:19.120 --> 0:34:22.160 circumstances are. Nicholas, I don't even know if we can 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.560 call you a Laborman any more, because of course you 0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:26.719 sort of walked away from the Labor Party and they 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:28.720 kind of tried to screw you out of being the mayor. 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:32.040 But what do you think about what's happened today as 0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:33.920 a former labor man. 0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:37.759 Well, look, I think you could probably see it coming 0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:42.399 for a while, couldn't you, With this conscious uncoupling. There's 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.839 been some pressure there for some while, and look, maybe 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.279 the two parties just need some time to reflect and 0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.400 work out how to take it forward in a positive 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.319 way together. Of course, the risk with all this is 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.680 they actually end up further apart, that the National Party 0:34:57.920 --> 0:34:59.960 sort of goes back into the cave, goes back to 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.280 been cave dwellers on coal and you know, regional pork 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:06.120 barreling and the urban Liberals. You know, they kind of 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:10.120 start to look like teals and there's actually no chance 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.799 of them being able to bridge the divide between them. 0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:16.200 So you know, there may be some short term benefit 0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:18.200 in them spending some time apart, But I don't think 0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.000 they want to leave it for too long because as said, 0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.439 they'll be end up so far apart that it will 0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.799 essentially be irreconcilable. And I've got to say, looking at 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:29.239 some of those things that David little pray Out was 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:34.040 describing as lines in the sand, I do wonder how 0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:36.520 long it's going to take. I mean, talking about nuclear power, 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.680 I mean, this is just an engineering solution, an energy 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:43.160 related thing, but they're now talking it like it's a fundamental, 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:48.360 you know, philosophical tenet of their party, which is obviously nonsense. 0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.399 And that twenty billion dollar you know, Regional Future find 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:53.880 I mean that just looks like an old fashioned shakedown 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:55.960 of the rest of us to give more money to 0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.880 regional Australia. You know, where's the where's this Capital City 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:03.040 Future Fund or the Peri Urban Future Fund, all the 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:05.719 average suburban Australia Future Fund. Don't we all want a 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:08.760 future one? Why should regional Australia be so special? 0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.600 See, because I like you, I'm holding I'm holding holding, 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.120 I'm holding in some of my emotion here right, and 0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.360 you can imagine there might be a fair amount of 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.160 it over the past few weeks that I would love 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:25.279 to her in a certain direction. All right, well guess 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:27.000 guess what it's about to hit a brick wall. 0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:27.360 Okay. 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:32.000 Firstly, the idea that the National Party a cave dwellers. 0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:34.000 You know that this program is seen in lots of 0:36:34.000 --> 0:36:36.719 different ways, but particularly on Sky News Regional, and it's 0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:38.520 in areas that have very. 0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:39.920 Strong support for the National Party. 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:44.160 Right, So the idea that by extension, the people who 0:36:44.239 --> 0:36:46.960 vote you're putting into that camp, I consider that to 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.240 be right. 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:51.160 On the line, going back to the cave. Okay, right 0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:51.840 on the line. 0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:56.200 Secondly, I think, look again, I'm not inside this, all right, 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:58.560 I'm not inside this. We'll all read like everybody else, right, 0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:02.520 I'm not entirely sure that you break up a coalition 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:06.080 off this. This future fund idea, to me, pretty easy 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.600 to say when you're in opposition. Sure, let's make it 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.400 one hundred trillion dollars. You know you can make all 0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.920 of those sorts of announcements. It is very obviously something 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.760 in and around nuclear power, something in and around net zero. 0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:22.040 And you know the last one on this And I'll 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:24.160 go to you first, Nicholas. 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:26.399 Which is. 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.960 I'll immediately be accused of being a lefty for asking 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:33.160 the question. But I'm a big boy, which means I 0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.160 can ask the question and please people do not interpret 0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:40.080 what my motivation is. Just listen to the actual question, okay, 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:44.000 which is, do you think that the Liberal Party has 0:37:44.040 --> 0:37:47.000 to deal or the National Party or the Coalition whatever 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.760 center right of Australian politics needs to deal with climate 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.040 change in the way that the Labor Party dealt with 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.759 bad protection. Because Nicholas, you and I sat here for 0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:58.080 how long talking about boat turnbacks, Anthony Abanize went on 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.759 television saying I couldn't possibly turn aroun under vote, and 0:38:00.800 --> 0:38:04.960 then basically the price of admission to modern government was 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.400 to do that to protect our borders. 0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.000 Now they didn't deliver on it. They didn't. They of 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:10.799 course removed temporary protection. 0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.840 Visas, so not doing what the coalition government had done previously. 0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:16.799 But as a person of the center left, do you 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.640 think that, you know, when people under fifty they believe 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.359 in the environment more than they do god, that the 0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:25.719 reality is that that is the price of admission for 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:30.880 certain for certain people in Australia. 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.000 Yeah, I do, Paul. So I know parties on the 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:38.760 left around the world spent a deca or a decade 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:43.200 and more losing elections because they didn't understand that border 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:47.920 security and the idea of a managed, well managed immigration program, 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:52.760 including refugees, was really important to people. I remember going 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.840 to visit Denmark and talking with the leaders of the 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:59.719 Social Democratic Party. There had been very successful decades and 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.239 then a decade out of power, and I said, what 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:04.040 went wrong, guys, And they said, well, we're just you know, 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:09.480 our policies around borders and immigration intake and refugees was 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:11.360 just not acceptable to the Danish people. 0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:12.960 And so I said, what did you do? 0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:15.320 Well, they change their policy, and you see a Labor 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.719 Party do a similar thing going back a few years 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:21.080 now and brought them back to in line with mainstream, 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:25.240 austrained views, and they became a very successful political outfit again. 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:25.600 Now. 0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:29.480 I do think that the conservative side of politics is 0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:33.239 going through a similar funk now on climate change, and 0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.600 I think that the Liberal and National parties split today 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.480 in some ways might make it harder because I think 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.279 the Nats will probably go further to the right if 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:45.120 I can describe it that way, on energy policy, and 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:47.439 the Libs will try and track you to the left. 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:51.000 I'll make be more tearish, and so it'll be harder 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:54.080 for them to reconcile and get a coherent policy next thation, 0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:55.799 because OSSI is going to ask, well, hang on, if 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.759 I vote for you, which energy policy I'm actually going 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:01.319 to get here? So they've got to solve it before 0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:01.880 the next election. 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.080 But yeah, but conversely, right Labor Party and the Liberal Party, 0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.279 they both wod we won't talk about twenty thirty five, 0:40:07.320 --> 0:40:09.680 but twenty thirty five's is the next number coming down 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.080 the pike. Labour Party activists want them to go up 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:15.440 to seventy five percent emission's reduction cut, not forty three 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.640 seventy five and Garth certainly in and around to Woomba 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:24.320 and again peri urban areas. That is a much bigger 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.080 whack obviously than what we have already seen as the 0:40:27.080 --> 0:40:30.640 whack to our economy of forty three. So the reality 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:33.839 is that I'm not toially sure that what the Goldilocks 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:36.400 position is here. There's a whole bunch of political thinkers 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:39.000 who might think something. There's a whole bunch of people 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.040 who say there's lines in the sand. But the reality 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:44.200 is that whatever the Liberal Party's position is in three 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.200 years time, frankly doesn't mean much. Let's focus on how 0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.640 the Labor Party will set its own position in the 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.279 next three years, and it could be bigger than what 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.280 the teals demand. 0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.000 Look, you could be right, and I think one of 0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:00.120 the things that maybe we don't articulate well. And if 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.600 you come up to Tormer and you've we've got fantastic 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.000 red meat. I've got more cattle, more head of cattle 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.040 on feed lots than anywhere else in Australia. 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:08.200 In my electorate. 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.280 I've got a coal mine out there sending great coal 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.080 to Japan, a thermal coal out there. These are things 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:18.319 that matter to us. They impact us. So these discussions, 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:22.040 aren't you hypothetical? There are actually jobs of people that 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.280 we know in our communities. But look, I think the issue. 0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:26.080 I think you're very right. 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.040 We need to be looking where labor are going here. 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:29.480 But what we need to be doing is putting a 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.960 price tag on that so that we can take this 0:41:32.040 --> 0:41:34.600 away from a moral question of whether you know you're 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.680 either it's black or white, you're either good or bad. 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.920 If you question any part of net zero, you're an 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.000 evil trog the diet. 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:41.520 Or something like that. 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:43.160 We need to get away from that and put a 0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:46.359 dollar figure on it and say let's treat net zero 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:48.640 spending like I don't know, like defense spending, and so 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:51.320 it's going to be capped at a certain percentage of GDP. 0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.799 I don't know, put a figure on it, somehow measure it, 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.880 because I guarantee you what labor and the Greens and 0:41:57.880 --> 0:42:00.000 the teals will want to spend will just keep going 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:01.400 up and up and up. And then it becomes an 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:06.239 economic question because that dollar is costing every taxpayer right 0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:07.320 across Australia. 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:07.640 One hundred percent. 0:42:07.640 --> 0:42:09.839 Now was out of time, sorry, but evinced the day 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:12.720 blewis in that direction. But I want to ask a mayor, 0:42:13.000 --> 0:42:15.200 if I only have one here of Melbourne. 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:16.560 No doubt you have got an awful lot more. 0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.040 Tobacconists than you used to in Melbourne a couple of 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.359 years ago. And we also know that what's being sold 0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.960 there is not exactly legal product. We also know one 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:25.560 of the reasons that's the case it is because of 0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:27.920 the federal taxation system that has. 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:29.200 Been put in and around tobacco. 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.640 So how do you feel about the conversation that maybe 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:36.160 tobacco taxes are wildly out of control and the black 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.840 market opportunity is being taken on almost every street corner. 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:43.319 Yeah, I mean the bit you left out of that 0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.480 intro is we've also had one hundred and twenty arson 0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:50.520 attacks career across Melbourne because there's an underworld war going 0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:55.640 on between you know, the chop chop merchants. So it's 0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.360 crazy actually, and you know, it's like an experiment in 0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:04.240 when taxes go too far and create these totally perverse outcomes. 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.520 So for anyone hasn't tuned in, it was not a smoker. 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.480 Tobacco taxes have gone up five hundred percent over a decade, 0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.600 and so price of smokes is now so expensive that 0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.040 it's open this huge space for the black marketee is 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.640 to come in selling a legal chop shop. And then 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:21.840 what's happened is because it's you know, crooks are running 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:24.520 this game. If a bit of competition comes along, like 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.120 another tobacco shop and opens in the shopping shoop gets 0:43:27.160 --> 0:43:31.160 quite in Melbourne and fire bombing them, and so it's 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:31.720 center criminals. 0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:33.640 The Federals are promising. 0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:33.879 More and more money. 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:35.920 It's interesting that once they start getting a lot of 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.600 revenue at something, they start putting money into law and order. 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.759 But anyway, it's not working and we need to have change. 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:44.280 Yes, correct, agree, sanity in that time. Thank you, lads, 0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:46.160 do appreciate it. Long a chat next time? All right, 0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.080 coming up, Meghan Kelly, the great Joe Biden cover up. 0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.160 There's only one lady who's going to fire up as 0:43:51.200 --> 0:44:00.560 hard as Megan Kelly, and it's Meghan Kelly. Next the 0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.319 way to talk to about favorite person in the world, 0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.600 the wonderful Megan Kelly joins us from the United States. 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:05.200 How are you mate? 0:44:05.680 --> 0:44:06.879 I'm great. How are you doing, Paul? 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.880 Well, there is so much bs about the last president, 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.600 Joe Biden, and I know they say we're not allowed 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:14.239 to talk about it. 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.200 No, no, no, We're going to talk about it. Where do 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:16.760 we start? 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.640 There are truly layers upon layers of going down here. 0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:25.319 So first we had the obvious cover up of Joe 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:30.200 Biden's mental infirmity from the White House and the complicit media. 0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:33.759 Lest they be forgotten, yes, the White House and the 0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.640 aids protecting the president are the chief villains in all 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.360 of it. But the media is just as complicit in 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:43.480 the cover up and went along with it, not unwittingly. Wittingly, 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.560 they went along with it because they didn't want to 0:44:46.600 --> 0:44:50.480 report on anything that could jeopardize Biden's chances of getting 0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:54.080 elected and then re elected, and that might enable Trump's 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.600 trip right into the White House. That's why they had 0:44:56.600 --> 0:45:00.000 to go along with the lies. They're not complete idiot. 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:03.680 They saw what seventy seven percent of the country saw, 0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.680 which was that he was too old and infirm to 0:45:06.760 --> 0:45:07.320 be president. 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:10.400 They saw it. This is their business politics. 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.680 They didn't report on it because they had zero interest 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:16.880 in bringing that story to print or to camera. They 0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:19.279 did not want it fanned, and they didn't want it 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:21.799 to catch on. He was too important to them. And they, 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:24.279 like the rest of the Democrats who were actually in 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.400 politics on like the media who aren't supposed to be, 0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:30.720 saw the truth, which was there was no clear heir apparent. 0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:32.240 If Biden went. 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.200 Then who And they continued to say to themselves internally 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:38.440 and externally, who else can do it? He's the only 0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.080 one to beat Trump. And that is the reason for 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:45.239 all of the lies and then complicity by the media 0:45:45.239 --> 0:45:46.640 and covering it up. So now we get to the 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:50.360 point where they're feeling bad. I guess a couple of 0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:53.760 them found a conscience about the fact that they covered 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.520 up the biggest story in decades at the presidential level 0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:02.000 that we had and cognitively paired president who most likely 0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:04.880 should have been twenty fifth amendmented right out of office, 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.799 meaning you can't perform the duties any longer, so you're out. 0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:11.359 And they've decided to use their Democrats sources to write 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.440 books about it. Okay, I'm in favor of that, to 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.200 be honest. I like it because now I've read the 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.640 Tapper Thompson book Original Sin, and I actually did learn 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:21.480 a fair amount of new details in there. 0:46:21.760 --> 0:46:24.959 Did my opinion of the infirmity change? No, not at all. 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:26.239 We knew the bottom line. 0:46:26.239 --> 0:46:28.520 Everybody listening to my voice right now, we knew the 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:29.520 bottom line. 0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:31.240 Your bottom line is not going to change. 0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.600 But there's a lot more in there about who else knew, 0:46:35.560 --> 0:46:38.879 who specifically was covering it up inside of the White House, 0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:40.799 et cetera. And I found that very interesting, Like I 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.920 wanted names, and so far we haven't seen somebody provide them, 0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.320 and now we have. Okay, great, We're off to the races. 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.799 So no sooner does that book hit. 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:50.520 It hits on. 0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:56.759 Tuesday and the audio of her Special Council Investigation is 0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.759 posted on Axios by one of the co authors of 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:04.560 this same book showing Biden was out to lunch. He 0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:09.720 was non compassmentis he was the daffy, old, very old 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.600 great grandpa that you sometimes get seated next to at 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.600 Thanksgiving who drones on and on about Mongolia and how 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:20.040 he fought sumo wrestlers and hit perfect bullseyes, and you 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:21.640 have to pretend that you believe it, and you think 0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.560 it's charming until you're really just looking around, like, can 0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.080 someone save me from great Grandpa? 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:26.120 I need a break. 0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.040 Someone else has got to do the loving but heavy 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:32.480 lifting over here. So no, sooner do those two things happen, 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:37.839 the audio and this book, than at that moment they 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:40.880 decide to tell us he's got cancer. Not just any cancer, 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.880 but prostate cancer which is spread to the bones, which 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:48.200 every single doctor I have spoken to personally or read 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.640 or watched in the past twenty four to thirty six hours, 0:47:52.360 --> 0:47:58.839 every single one, prostate specialists, urologists, oncologists all say this 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.000 would take five to seven years, maybe ten to go 0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:06.360 from prostate cancer to metastasized into the bones. Five to 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:10.120 seven probably ten. All of them said he had this 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:10.920 when he took office. 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:12.720 I ought to imagine, if you're the president, they're taking 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.879 a vall of blood every two weeks, just to make 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:18.120 sure that everything's okay. Yet none of this showed the 0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:21.759 prostate cancer that is now apparently so advanced that it 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:24.440 is well, it's life threatening. 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:25.600 No. 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:30.720 So far, what we've seen is that the annual exams 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:34.759 of Joe Biden did not include any reporting about this 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.200 so called PSA test, which every man over fifty in 0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:38.960 the States. 0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:39.480 Is advised to get. 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.400 It's so easy, it's you don't have to do anything 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.440 invasive or uncomfortable. Just when you give your blood at 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.719 your annual physical you check the box that says and 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.680 please add the PSA test to see if these antigens 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.120 that might say you have some activity happening in the 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:53.120 prostate are up. 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:54.880 So it's a nothing burger. 0:48:54.880 --> 0:48:57.120 I mean, if you're going to check for check my lipids, 0:48:57.800 --> 0:48:59.920 very easy to say, and also, hey, check out the prostate. 0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:00.560 We'd like to know. 0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.280 And so the reality is Joe Biden's probably been getting 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:07.719 that PSA test for some thirty years now, and what 0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.840 it just happened to stop when he went into the 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:14.320 White House. President Trump is getting it. That's his annual physical. 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.840 President Obama got it. It was on his annual physical 0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:21.080 President George W. Bush got it, it was on his 0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:24.560 Only Joe Biden doesn't have it, and only Joe Biden 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:26.680 is the oldest president in US history, and only Joe 0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:31.280 Biden actually has prostate cancer, which all of the prostate 0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:37.120 cancer experts say five to seven years. They're lying to us. 0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:41.759 They have been covering this up for years. That's my 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.240 informed opinion.