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Speaker 1: On scoring leaves Australia. This is the Wider Panety Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to a special edition of The

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Speaker 2: Rita Panety Show coming to you from Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 3: For earlier today, a huge crowd of over.

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Speaker 2: One hundred thousand gathered in and around State Farm Stadium

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Speaker 2: for the funeral of a man who has changed America.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's influence was profound before, but in death he

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Speaker 2: is seen as immortal, a martyr whose message rings louder

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Speaker 2: than ever.

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Speaker 3: I'll be speaking to CJ.

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Speaker 2: Pearson about the example Charlie Kirk has set the next generation,

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Speaker 2: and also about Erica Kirk's astonishing.

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Speaker 3: Act of grace.

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Speaker 2: And me Horowitz will also weigh into the significance of

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Speaker 2: today's service, and we'll look at the twelve key moments

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Speaker 2: from today's memorial and we never forget left He's losing

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Speaker 2: it tonight, starring this contempt corintable congresswoman.

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Speaker 4: Any legacy this man has left behind that should be

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Speaker 4: in the dust pen of history, and we should hopefully

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Speaker 4: move on and forget the heat that he spewed every

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Speaker 4: single day.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's look at some of the key moments from

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's funeral.

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Speaker 3: There were so.

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Speaker 2: Many poignant moments, so many fantastic speeches, none more so

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Speaker 2: than Erica Kirk, who brought the whole stadium to tears.

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Speaker 2: It took extraordinary strength, extraordinary grace to do this.

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Speaker 5: Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.

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Speaker 6: That man, that young man, I forgive him.

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Speaker 2: She explained that she forgave Charlie's killer because that's what

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Speaker 2: Jesus would have done, and that's what Charlie would have done.

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Speaker 3: Just an astonishing.

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Speaker 2: Speech, and Erica had a message for young men, the

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Speaker 2: message her husband not only preached, but he lived it

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Speaker 2: every day.

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Speaker 5: To all the men watching around the world, accept Charlie's

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Speaker 5: challenge and embrace true manhood.

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Speaker 7: Be strong and courageous for your families.

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Speaker 5: Love your wives and lead them, Love your children and

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Speaker 5: protect them. Be the spiritual head of your home. But

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Speaker 5: please be a leader worth following your wife. Your wife

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Speaker 5: is not your servant. Your wife is not your employee.

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Speaker 7: Your wife is not your slave. She is your helper.

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Speaker 7: You are not rivals.

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Speaker 5: You are one flesh working together for the glory of God.

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Speaker 2: Erica also had a message for young women, and as

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Speaker 2: you listen to this. Remember that Charlie said Erica is

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Speaker 2: far more conservative than he was. She's just the right

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Speaker 2: person to propel turning point USA to even greater heights.

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Speaker 5: Women, I have a challenge for you too, be virtuous.

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Speaker 5: Our strength is found in God's design for our role.

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Speaker 5: We are the guardians, We are the encouragers, we are

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Speaker 5: the preservers. Guard your heart.

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Speaker 7: Everything you do flows from it.

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Speaker 5: And if you're a mother, please recognize that is the

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Speaker 5: single most important ministry you have.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 2: Vice President j. D. Vance gave a powerful speech. He

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Speaker 2: talked about his faith, and he talked about Charlie's influence

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Speaker 2: not only on himself but on the country.

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Speaker 9: You know, I can't help but think that they tried

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Speaker 9: to silence my friend Charlie Kirk. They tried to silence

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Speaker 9: our dear friend, Charlie Kirk. And today, tonight we speak

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Speaker 9: with Charlie and for Charlie louder than ever.

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Speaker 7: The evil murderer who took Charlie.

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Speaker 9: From us expected us to have a funeral today, and instead,

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Speaker 9: my friends, we have had a revival in celebration of

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Speaker 9: Charlie Kirk and of His Lord Jesus Christ. That I

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Speaker 9: always felt a little uncomfortable talking about my faith in public.

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Speaker 9: As much as I loved the Lord and as much

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Speaker 9: as it was an important part of my life. I

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Speaker 9: have talked more about Jesus Christ in the past two

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Speaker 7: But JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance wasn't going to sugarcoat the christis facing America with

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Speaker 9: I know that this makes you angry, just as it

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Speaker 9: has made me angry. But it is easy in these

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Speaker 9: moments to see only the worst of our fellow man.

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Speaker 9: I found myself wishing that I could pick up the

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Speaker 9: his advice in his council, to ask him how to

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Speaker 9: respond to such hate and the souls from which that

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Speaker 9: hate springs. But I can't call my friend because he

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Speaker 9: was murdered for speaking the truth. I can only guess

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Speaker 9: at what he might say and what he would encourage

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Speaker 9: me to do. And here's what I think. I think

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Speaker 9: he would encourage me to be honest that evil still

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Speaker 9: on and honestly as the sickness that it is.

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Speaker 2: And that was a thing that senior Trump advisor and

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Speaker 2: White House Deputy Chief of Star Stephen Miller also explored.

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Speaker 2: He lays out the difference between conservatives and the anti

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Speaker 2: West forces of the left.

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Speaker 10: The light will defeat the dark. We will prevail over

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Speaker 10: the forces of wickedness and evil. They cannot imagine what

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Speaker 10: they have awakened. They cannot conceive of the army that

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Speaker 10: they have arisen in all of us, because we stand

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Speaker 10: for what is good, what is virtuous, what is noble.

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Speaker 1: And to those trying.

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Speaker 10: To incite violence against us, those trying to foment hatred

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Speaker 10: against us, what do you have?

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Speaker 1: You have nothing. You are nothing.

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Speaker 10: You are wickedness, you are jealousy, you are envy, you

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Speaker 10: are hatred.

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Speaker 1: You are nothing.

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Speaker 10: You can build nothing, you can produce nothing, you can

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Speaker 10: create nothing. We are the ones who build. We are

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Speaker 10: the ones who create. We are the ones who lift

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Speaker 10: up humanity. You thought you could kill Charlie Kirk, You

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Speaker 10: have made him immortal. You have immortalized Charlie Kirk. And

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Speaker 10: now millions will carry on his legacy, and we will

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Speaker 10: devote the rest of our lives to finishing the causes

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Speaker 10: for which Charlie gave his last measure of devotion.

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Speaker 1: You cannot defeat us.

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Speaker 10: You cannot slow us, you cannot stop us, you cannot

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Speaker 10: deter us. We will carry Charlie and Erica in our

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Speaker 10: heart every single day and fight that much harder because

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Speaker 10: of what you did to us. You have no idea

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Speaker 10: the dragon you have awakened. You have no idea how

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Speaker 10: determined we will be to save this civilization, to save

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Speaker 10: the West, to save this republic.

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State Marco Arubia got a standing ovation, well,

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Speaker 2: most of the speakers did, and he talked about the

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Speaker 2: fact that people around the world are grieving for Charlie

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Speaker 2: and that senior members of Trump's administration were all in

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Speaker 2: the one place to pay tribute to this man.

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Speaker 11: Charlie Kirk was impactful, impactful because of all the things

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Speaker 11: I've said.

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Speaker 1: But look around this place. There's one hundred and something

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Speaker 5: The President of the United States is here, his entire

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Speaker 8: Television are outlets and media outlets from all over the

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Speaker 7: I just came from overseas and every country I stopped.

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Speaker 5: They gave us their condolences for his passing, impactful and

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Speaker 5: just thirty one years of life.

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Speaker 2: Benny Johnson spoke about how his great friend saved his life.

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Speaker 2: Before Charlie, Benny said he was a loser, an alcoholic,

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Speaker 2: without a wife, without kids, without purpose. That's all changed.

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Speaker 2: And he also spoke about what happened in Butler.

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Speaker 12: The Apostle Paul describes how God establishes the rulers of

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Speaker 12: the nations in the audience. Right now, there are rulers

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Speaker 12: of our land represented. Right here is the State Department,

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Speaker 12: the Department of Wars, the Department of Justice.

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Speaker 1: The chief Executive. God has instituted them.

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Speaker 12: God has given them power over.

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Speaker 1: Our nation and our land.

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Speaker 12: God saved our president, President Trump from an assassin's bullet

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Speaker 12: for this moment.

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Speaker 2: War Secretary Pete Hegzeth gave a powerful speech. He sees

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Speaker 2: Charlie's murder as a turning point.

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Speaker 13: My pastor texted me the day after that horrific event

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Speaker 13: and said, Pete, the devil overplayed his hand. Charlie started

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Speaker 1: For Christ.

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Speaker 13: He started turning point USA. But this moment is the

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Speaker 13: turning point for the USA.

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Speaker 2: Now, Tucker Casslon got a standing ovation before he even

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Speaker 2: began his speech. He was clearly touched by what you see,

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Speaker 2: what he was hearing and feeling at State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 3: He saw it as biblical.

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Speaker 14: This is the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever seen.

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Speaker 14: And I don't whatever happens next in America, I hope

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Speaker 14: it's in this direction because God is here and you

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Speaker 7: And Charlie would have loved this.

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Speaker 14: But the main thing about Charlie and his message, he

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Speaker 14: was bringing the Gospel to the country. He was doing

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Speaker 14: the thing that the people in charge hate most, which

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Speaker 14: is calling for them to repent.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's producer, Andrew Colvit, said that Charlie was martyred

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Speaker 2: and that he lived his life as a prophet.

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Speaker 11: I see it now clearly that Charlie Kirk was a prophet,

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Speaker 11: not the fortune telling kind that could predict the future,

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Speaker 11: truth and called us to repent and be saved.

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Speaker 6: Amen.

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Speaker 1: And he wasn't mean about it.

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Speaker 7: He was kind and he was loving.

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Speaker 2: The President gave a quintessential Trump speech, and it contained

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Speaker 2: some lighter moments as he remarked on how he and

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Speaker 7: All forgetting the men who died.

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Speaker 1: Who gave that right to me.

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Speaker 7: He did not hate his opponents.

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Speaker 16: He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed

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Speaker 16: with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I am sorry Erica.

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Speaker 16: But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group,

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Speaker 16: and maybe they can convince me.

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Speaker 1: That that's not great. But I can't stand my a

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Speaker 1: poetic I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think Donald Trump is changing, and who can blame him?

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Speaker 2: His opponents tried to put him in jail and bankrupt him.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The president also revealed that Charlie asked him to make

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Speaker 2: Chicago great again, and he's determined to do just that.

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Speaker 16: Raised in the suburbs of Chicago, Charlie was filled with

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Speaker 16: the patriotic.

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Speaker 1: Sperience from his youth, and he was an.

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Speaker 16: All American and everything he did and one of the

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Speaker 16: last things he said to me is, please, sir, save Chicago.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do that.

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Speaker 16: We're going to save Chicago from horrible crime.

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Speaker 2: And one of the most moving moments was right at

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Speaker 2: the end of the memorial when President Trump asked Erica

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Speaker 2: to come back on stage. It's clear that the president

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Speaker 2: and senior members of his administration have Erica's back.

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Speaker 14: Now.

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Speaker 2: There were plenty of other moving moments, plenty more laughs too.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at Charlie's great.

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Speaker 2: Mate, Donald Trump Junior doing a very good impersonation of

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Speaker 2: his father.

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Speaker 1: Have you been gotten the call from that guy a

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Speaker 1: couple of times?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: Done?

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Speaker 5: Done?

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Speaker 10: You're getting a little aggressive and social media done relaxes.

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Speaker 2: And a young colleague of Charlie Kirk Mikey McCoy, like

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Speaker 2: a number of other speakers, called Charlie a martyr.

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Speaker 17: In the words of Sore and Kuregarten, the tyrant dies

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Speaker 3: Still to come.

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Speaker 2: Lefties losing it, plus the misinformation campaign about the left

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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panny Show, and it's time for

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Speaker 2: lefties losing it now. While normal people from across America

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Speaker 3: America just like Charlie did.

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Speaker 2: There was a small group of misfits who thought it's

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Speaker 3: Just gross, gross, and talking about gross. This happened in NYC.

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Speaker 2: A group of contemptible far left imbeciles did their best

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Speaker 3: Vigil for Charlie. How did they do that?

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Speaker 3: This is the modern left, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I don't want your salvations.

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Speaker 6: I want you.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to give you a second chance. You

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Speaker 2: Just when you think the Left has hit rock bottom,

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Speaker 3: This hysterian violence.

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Speaker 2: Listen here to Democrat congress Woman Elan Omar who shared

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Speaker 3: But I am not.

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Speaker 2: Only one spreading hate is that hideously ungrateful woman. You know,

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Speaker 3: Run for public office.

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Speaker 2: As for Charlie being left in the dustbin of history,

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Speaker 2: is that what she said? Well, his message his name

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Speaker 3: Sorry, Ela. Now let's check in.

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Speaker 2: On actress turn mad activist Cynthia Nixon. She's now boycotting

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Speaker 3: Suddenly the left cares.

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Speaker 2: About the First Amendment and free speech, if only they

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Speaker 19: I just canceled my Disney Plus and Hulu subscriptions, and

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Speaker 19: Now my whole family is really going to miss abid Elementary.

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Speaker 19: We are really gonna miss only murders in the building,

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Speaker 19: but you know what, we would miss the First Amendment

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Speaker 19: a whole lot more. Don't go to the theme parks,

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Speaker 3: Cancel your subscriptions.

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Speaker 2: Now, now let's hear from a race baiting past us,

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Speaker 2: viewing nothing but lies and vitriol. Now, either he is

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Speaker 2: There are no other explanations for what you're about to hear.

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Speaker 20: Calling this nation to honor and venerate a man who

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Speaker 20: nowhere in Bible where we are taught to honor evil,

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Speaker 20: and how you die does not redeem how you lived.

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Speaker 1: You do not become a.

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Speaker 20: Hero in your death when you were a weapon of

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Speaker 2: And Charlie Kirk worked another miracle today.

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Speaker 3: He brought feuding former bros Elon.

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Speaker 3: And Elon had this to say about Charlie.

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Speaker 21: Charlie was someone to hear your believed in dialogue, in

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Speaker 1: He spoke eloquently.

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Speaker 21: He basically never even raised his voice. He was a

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Speaker 3: Did you know him personally?

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Speaker 21: Yes, of course we met many times.

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Speaker 3: How was he like?

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Speaker 21: I supported his opossession, I suported.

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Speaker 18: Turning point from from Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Finally, why was he killed?

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Speaker 4: He was.

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Speaker 21: He was killed because his words made a difference, because

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Speaker 2: Charlie was murdered by the dark for showing people the lie.

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Speaker 2: That's quite profound and beautiful from Elon musk Let's bring

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Speaker 2: in documentary filmmaker and commentator Army Horowitz. Army, what did

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Speaker 3: It was quite powerful.

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Speaker 15: It was incredible, and it just it's unbelievable to hear

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Speaker 15: For them not to fall into that trap and to

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Speaker 15: The moment where Erica Kirk forgave him well, something beyond

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Speaker 15: Contrast to when I've gone to similar rallies on the

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Speaker 3: Oh, it does.

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Speaker 2: And you've experienced that, as you said yourself, you've been

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Speaker 3: You didn't even say anything, do anything.

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Speaker 2: Just the presence of the American flag was enough to

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Speaker 15: Of an American flag. Yeah, I didn't buy a Maga sign, right,

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Speaker 1: Right, you look at doing here.

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Speaker 15: Sure there is violence on the very hard far right,

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Speaker 15: It's a much larger percentage of the democratic population.

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Speaker 2: And we say case after case after case, and you've

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Speaker 15: What's so fast thing about that poll is that it's

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Speaker 2: And completely contrary to so much of the media commentary

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Speaker 3: That's just not the case.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 2: We saw footage today of Charlie Kirk's final moments, his

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Speaker 3: The horror that followed is just unthinkable. Let's have a

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Speaker 22: Did you want smile? Awesome, guys, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That was Utah Valley University and you see Charlie there

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Speaker 2: He was the joyful warrior. They killed a joyful warrior.

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Speaker 15: I mean, I want to rewire my brain for that

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 15: But those the images of him being murdered were all

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Speaker 7: They keep us in the word hateful and hate.

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Speaker 15: And you saw not just those images, but when he spoke,

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Speaker 15: hear any hate from him. It's openness, it's wanting to

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Speaker 3: I thought hateful.

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Speaker 1: It's the opposite of hateful.

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Speaker 2: And the fact that again Commentitus, some people in the

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Speaker 2: Even this horrific murder, this assassination, hasn't been enough to

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Speaker 15: Yeah, but unfortunately a line on the left think it

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Speaker 15: because they use their violence.

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Speaker 3: That's it now.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier that elan Omer posted something terrible about

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, casting him as some sort of a Frankenstein

455
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Speaker 2: who created a monster who killed him. I mean that

456
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Speaker 2: in itself is just so. It's not just ugly, it's

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Speaker 2: full of lies. It was of someone from the left

458
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Speaker 2: that killed him. It wasn't some turning point USA devotee.

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Speaker 3: And she's doubling down Army.

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Speaker 2: There is absolutely no self reflection, no apology, No I'm

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Speaker 2: going to turn down the temperature and do better. She's

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Speaker 2: doubled down on it on CNN without shame.

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Speaker 23: I'm sorry surprised, of course, I'm still surprised because she

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Speaker 23: can see this outpouring of grief, this she can see

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Speaker 23: the reaction.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's taken someone like her who exists in

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Speaker 2: an echo chamber by surprise, but to not take even

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Speaker 2: a moment to reconsider her position.

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Speaker 15: Shame and remorse are not words or actions in the

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Speaker 15: vocabulary of the left, And actually, on that see interview.

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Speaker 15: I want to point something out that people haven't pointed

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Speaker 15: out is that as horrific as I was, and it

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Speaker 15: was obviously, but she had said to the CNN host said, well,

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Speaker 15: do you agree that I have less brain processing power

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Speaker 15: as a black woman. But the problem was that the

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Speaker 15: host and of course I don't agree, but the host

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Speaker 15: didn't say because we know that was debunked. The host

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Speaker 15: knows that the hole didn't say, oh, I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 15: he never said that. She kind of implied that he

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Speaker 15: did say that, and she didn't agree with him, which

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Speaker 15: is the entire problem, casting him as his evil person

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Speaker 15: when it wasn't his words.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Caitlin Collins is ignorant she didn't know that,

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Speaker 2: or she chose not to make that correction because we

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Speaker 2: know where her politics lies and she doesn't want to

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Speaker 2: be sticking up for a Charlie Kirk and being critical

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Speaker 2: of an eel an omer.

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Speaker 15: Well, then she's either the worst journals in the world

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Speaker 15: and didn't hear all that these bunking that went on,

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Speaker 15: or she did and she chose to ignore it because

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Speaker 15: she likes to cast people like us, people like me,

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Speaker 15: I should say, and Charlie Kirk as he.

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Speaker 2: Now Vice president jd Vance gave a superb speech, and

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Speaker 2: he had this point in line.

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Speaker 9: It is better to die a young man in this

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Speaker 9: world than to sell your soul for an easy life

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Speaker 9: with no purpose, no risk, no love, and no truth.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you make of the role faith

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Speaker 2: played in today's memorial? Just about In fact, every speaker

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Speaker 2: talked about faith, and he was so important to Charlie.

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Speaker 2: His Christian faith was the most important thing to him

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Speaker 2: and his values. The way he lived his life, what

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Speaker 2: he preached was centered around that.

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Speaker 15: I mean, faith is an important part of what makes

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Speaker 15: us more human, right, what makes what brings humanity out

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Speaker 15: of us. And when we look at Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 15: say he was his happy warrior, well, that goes hand

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Speaker 15: in hand with his faith, because that's what his faith

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Speaker 15: taught him. I think that again, when we go back

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Speaker 15: to contrasting the rallies of the left.

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Speaker 1: These are rallies devoid faith.

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Speaker 15: And when you don't have faith, you don't have a

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Speaker 15: belief in God, that's when you devolve into violence, I think,

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Speaker 15: and I think that that's why these we see what

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Speaker 15: happened today in Arizona and Glendale. Arizona was such a loving,

516
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Speaker 15: warm embrace of life as opposed to demonization.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because of the faith.

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Speaker 2: And yet at a funeral, we had the sort of

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Speaker 2: security you might expect if you're entering the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: It took hours for everyone to go through. No one

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Speaker 2: was really complaining. You had the president, they're the vice president,

522
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Speaker 2: just about every senior member of the administration, so you

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Speaker 2: can understand. But the fact that you can't even have

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Speaker 2: any sense of security at a funeral speaks to just

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Speaker 2: what across this point there is in this country when

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Speaker 2: it comes to political debate.

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Speaker 3: There is nothing that's off limits.

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Speaker 15: Those days are over, those days of being able to

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Speaker 15: walk on a college campus, give a speech in an

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Speaker 15: open area or over look. I get death threats all

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Speaker 15: the time. Everyone I know who is in this world

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Speaker 15: gets death threats repeatedly. Ben Shapiro can give a speech

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Speaker 15: on a campus having fifty a pelax of security guards

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Speaker 15: and police officer, not not to mention his own personal security.

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Speaker 1: And I think what we learn is.

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Speaker 15: That, look, if somebody wants to kill you, right, they're

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Speaker 15: going to be able to do it. If they're to

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Speaker 15: have to die, but they're willing to trade their freedom,

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Speaker 15: they can do it. It's a scary time for people

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Speaker 15: who want to speak out.

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Speaker 1: But we have to.

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Speaker 3: We just have to.

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Speaker 1: We have no choice.

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Speaker 2: I think it's something Douglas Murray said, when something like

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Speaker 2: this happens.

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Speaker 3: You spread the risk. I think it was actually.

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Speaker 2: Quoting Ion Herciali, who's intimately aware of the horrors that

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Speaker 2: can come from extremist attacking you for your opinion. Now,

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Speaker 2: The New York Post has a great editorial on the funeral.

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Speaker 2: They called it a message to the mainstream media. The

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Speaker 2: editorial asks, was Jimmy Kimmel watching Sunday was ABC? Do

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Speaker 2: they understand the bubble they've created? Not only do they

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Speaker 2: not speak too or for these people that deny they exist,

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Speaker 2: it is unsustainable.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what's your reaction to that?

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Speaker 2: Because you can tell there are many in the media

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Speaker 2: who are shocked by this outpouring of grief, the fact

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Speaker 2: that people have traveled from around the country to be here,

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Speaker 2: that were lining up overnight. By four am in the dark,

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Speaker 2: there were seemed like tens of thousands waiting to enter

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Speaker 2: the stadium. The crowd was huge, and so many in

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Speaker 2: the media are completely blindsided by that.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, because look, you know, it's so interesting, the outrage

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Speaker 15: we saw to Jimmy Kimmel's firing as compared to the

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Speaker 15: outrage of an assassination of a cultural and political figure.

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Speaker 15: It's incredible to me. This is what the left has done.

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Speaker 15: It doesn't matter. There are more outrage about a hack

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Speaker 15: comedian who had no audience right than truly a significant

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Speaker 15: turning point in our culture. An assassination of a political

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Speaker 15: did not draw as much higher from the left as

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Speaker 15: a firing of Jimmy Kenner.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't mention it at the Emmys. Did they

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Speaker 2: not even a passing reference to this significant event?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that was possible?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you would think when I started saying major

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Speaker 2: sporting leagues having a moment silence, doing some of them

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Speaker 2: fairly lengthy tributes, I thought maybe the culture has shifted

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Speaker 2: and that would be reflected in Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: But no, Hollywood is running.

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Speaker 15: Not only that, Hollywood demonized people in Hollywood who said

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Speaker 15: anything nice about Charlie Kirk. Not that they who supported

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Speaker 15: Charlie Kirk, God forbid, but people who said, like a

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Speaker 15: killing a Charlie Kirk is a terrible thing. Like Christin Chenoworth.

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Speaker 15: She got roasted by Hollywood for showing empathy it's.

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Speaker 3: A six sick place.

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Speaker 2: Now the left, the Democrats are suddenly passionate about free speech,

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Speaker 2: or what they think is free speech. Jimmy Kimmel's a

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Speaker 2: terrible program. Rating program has been pulled off air and army.

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Speaker 3: It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to make Jimmy Kimmel the victim of this

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Speaker 2: entire catastrophe.

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Speaker 3: Somehow, here's the victim.

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Speaker 2: Here's the one who's being targeted and persecuted, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to the man who's had his life taken from him,

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Speaker 2: and he was persecuted with the Biden DOJ they were investigating.

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Speaker 2: Turning point in personally, he spoke about his sphere of

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Speaker 2: ending up in federal prison if a Democrat was elected president.

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Speaker 3: Again. Look, I'm not.

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Speaker 15: A fan of the government getting involved as something, Agenmikim.

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Speaker 15: I don't think it's a good idea. I think that

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Speaker 15: that's a bad president. And I promise you your boomerang

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Speaker 15: what there's a democratic president, but.

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Speaker 3: It already has.

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Speaker 2: This is the point that Republicans make those sort of

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Speaker 2: arguments ring a little hollow because the Democrats go out

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Speaker 2: of their way to silent their political opponents.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think perhaps if there's a they get a taste

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Speaker 2: of their own medicine, if they're held to their own standards.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll back away from this sort of cancel culture.

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Speaker 15: No, no, I don't like it from either side.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's healthy.

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Speaker 3: He's lost seventy percent of his He should have been sad.

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Speaker 3: He should have been.

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Speaker 15: I have no problem being firing, just like the government intervention.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we don't want government intervention.

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Speaker 2: But again, from what we've seen reported, he not only

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Speaker 2: said something that was verifiably a lie, and he knew

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Speaker 2: it was a lie, he still said it.

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Speaker 3: He had no intention of backing away.

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Speaker 2: Like Elano Omar, he wanted to go back on the

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Speaker 2: next program and double down on those attacks. And in

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Speaker 2: that scenario, I mean, what could ABC do. They've just

625
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Speaker 2: had a massive payout. Unless they're just happy writing checks

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Speaker 2: endlessly that to take some action.

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Speaker 15: We're in the media business. We know they're not willing

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Speaker 15: to rate. They're they're happy to rate endless checks. Look,

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Speaker 15: they were looking for excuse, there's no question about it.

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Speaker 15: I mean you so happen to Colbert? Yeah, it was

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Speaker 15: a SAT Late night. Just isn't driving revenue the cars

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Speaker 15: or out of control. Jimmy Keiller makes a huge amount

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Speaker 15: of money relative the amount of audience they bring in.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's not worth it.

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Speaker 15: They were looking for a reason and he gave it.

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Speaker 2: Matts ain't math seeing as the kids say, it makes

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Speaker 2: no sense?

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Speaker 7: Is that what they say?

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Speaker 1: They do say that.

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Speaker 3: Something like that.

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Speaker 2: How can he earn that salary with that pitiful audience?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what sort of a business ra ABC running.

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Speaker 2: If I was a shareholder, I'd be asking a few questions.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you about that in Horowitz. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for your time, Thanks for coming into coming

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Speaker 2: up more on Erica Kirk's astonishing act of grace.

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Speaker 4: C J.

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Speaker 3: Pearson joins me.

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Speaker 2: Next, we've just finished Charlie Kirk's memorial service. I've never

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Speaker 2: experienced anything like that. I doubt over will again. I'm

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Speaker 2: here with CJ Pearson. CJ, what did you take away

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Speaker 2: from today?

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Speaker 8: I think my take away today is that we are

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Speaker 8: not just witnessing a funeral here, we're missing a revival.

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Speaker 8: And I got to say that this is such a

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Speaker 8: beautiful thing to see.

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Speaker 1: But when JD.

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Speaker 8: Van said that it is time for us to put

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Speaker 8: on the armor of God and to get back to work.

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Speaker 8: That resonated with me, and I think it resonated with

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Speaker 8: the tens of thousands of people who.

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Speaker 1: Packed into this arena. Actually not just arena, a stadium.

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Speaker 8: This was Taylor Swift numbers that came out here for

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Speaker 8: Charlie Kirk came out here for his message of loving

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Speaker 8: your God, loving your country, loving your family. That assassin

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Speaker 8: tried to end this movement with a bullet, but instead

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Speaker 8: what he did is he led it to grow in

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Speaker 8: a way which we've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think we ever could have predicted.

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Speaker 2: Erica Kirk was just so powerful, so full of grace.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there was a dry eye in the

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Speaker 2: house here when she finished her speech. Where do you

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Speaker 2: think that strength comes from to stand there less than

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Speaker 2: two weeks after her husband was torn from her and

675
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Speaker 2: to forgive his killer.

676
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Speaker 1: It comes from God. There's no other explanation for it.

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Speaker 8: To sit there, to stand on that stage and to

678
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Speaker 8: say I forgive you, after she has gone through unspeakable pain,

679
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 8: unspeakable hurt, unspeakable tragedy, and for her to have the

680
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Speaker 8: power and the courage and the bravery to say those words,

681
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 8: it's almost inhuman right. It's supernatural in a sense, but

682
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Speaker 8: it's not supernatural. We know where it comes from. It

683
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 8: comes directly from God. And I've got to say that

684
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Speaker 8: she is a woman made for such a time as this.

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Speaker 8: If there's anyone that can carry on the torch and

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Speaker 8: the legacy of Charlie Kirk as her And you know,

687
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Speaker 8: as a twenty three year old young man who's single,

688
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 8: you know, oftentimes I would talk to Charlie and say, CJ,

689
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Speaker 8: why are you getting married?

690
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Speaker 1: And I wasn't in a rush.

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Speaker 8: But when I think about the type of woman that

692
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 8: I one day hope to marry, it's one that can

693
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Speaker 8: stand there with such resolute strength in the face of

694
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Speaker 8: adversity and keep going and keep fighting.

695
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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Erica Kirk is doing.

696
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Speaker 2: And Erica Kirk had a message for young men in America,

697
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Speaker 2: young men across the world, to all the.

698
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Speaker 5: Men watching around the world, except Charlie's challenge and embrace

699
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Speaker 5: true manhood.

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Speaker 7: Be strong and courageous for your families, Love.

701
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: Your wives and lead them, love your children and protect them.

702
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 7: Be the spiritual head of your home. But please be

703
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 7: a leader worth following.

704
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 3: Tell me about that message.

705
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Speaker 2: It's one that Charlie not only preached, but he lived it.

706
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: He wanted his friends to live it. What did that

707
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: mean to him?

708
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Speaker 1: It was a call to action.

709
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 8: It was a call to action for us to reject

710
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 8: the narrative that comes from the left that we should

711
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 8: be demonized for wanting to be protectors, wanting to be providers,

712
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 8: wanting to be the men and the role and play

713
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 8: the role of men that God calls us to play.

714
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Speaker 8: And so I take it again as a call to action.

715
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Speaker 8: I think it's not for us to all get to work.

716
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 8: It's not for us to dig deeper, to fight harder,

717
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 8: and to leave it all out on the field.

718
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: For Charlie and for his legacy.

719
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Speaker 2: And when she spoke about embracing real manhood, what does

720
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Speaker 2: that mean to you?

721
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Speaker 8: I think exactly what you said, you took the words

722
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 8: out of my mouth, you know, not treating you know,

723
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 8: women as our servants, but as our partners, being one flesh.

724
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Speaker 8: And to realize that we were all in this together.

725
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 8: We're all fighting for a more perfect union, a better

726
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 8: America that serves us better and truer. And again, it

727
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 8: was a call to action to be who God calls

728
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Speaker 8: us to be, and if more of us reflected that promise,

729
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Speaker 8: reflected that cold action, the world would be a better

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Speaker 8: place now.

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Speaker 2: The service from start to finish was so spiritual. Charlie's

732
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: faith was the central point throughout. It was about family,

733
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Speaker 2: it was about freedom, country, but at the foremost it

734
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: was about faith.

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Speaker 8: You're right, and I think that's what you know. Of course,

736
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 8: I think resonated with so many people in this room.

737
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Speaker 8: And while you're seeing here in America churches being full,

738
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 8: parking lots outside of them being full, because he didn't

739
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 8: only just lead people to truth, he led them to God,

740
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 8: because he realizes that all of truth derives from the

741
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 8: most ultimate truth, the word of our Holy Father. And

742
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Speaker 8: so I've got to say, it's incredible to see so

743
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 8: many young people flocking towards tradition. We've already seen it.

744
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 8: We've seen study after study saying that young men are

745
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 8: running back to church.

746
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Speaker 1: And I got to say that is.

747
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Speaker 8: A good fortune for America, good fortune for the West,

748
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Speaker 8: and I'm excited to see where this movement goes now.

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Speaker 2: Jd Vance mentioned that he loves his faith, his relationship

750
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Speaker 2: with God, but he's never been really comfortable talking about it.

751
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: But in the past two weeks he said he's publicly

752
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: spoken about God more than he has possibly throughout his

753
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Speaker 2: entire adult life.

754
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Speaker 3: Do you think that's.

755
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Speaker 2: Going to become a trend with prominent people not being

756
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: ashamed to say what their faith is and what it

757
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: means to them.

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Speaker 8: You know that story resonated with me because I can

759
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 8: relate to it a lot, and I think that it

760
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 8: is going to be an increasing trend. And the reason

761
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 8: being is that when things like this happen, the only

762
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 8: thing that can really get you through it is God.

763
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 8: Because it doesn't make any sense why such an evil

764
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 8: person would put a bullet inside of Charlie Kirk simply

765
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 8: for having different opinions than he did, for standing for God,

766
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 8: for country and for faith and all of those things.

767
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 8: Why should such an evil happen? But it's about what

768
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 8: came after that this would not have been possible. People

769
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 8: would not be flocking towards the truth, flocking towards church

770
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 8: if he had not made the sacrifice of his life

771
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Speaker 8: that he did.

772
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Speaker 1: And it's a.

773
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Speaker 8: Hard thing to conceptualize, but it's one of which that

774
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 8: if you believe in God and you have faith, it slowly.

775
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 1: Starts to make sense. And so I think it will

776
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Speaker 1: become more of a trend now.

777
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 3: Charlie was called a joyful warrior.

778
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: I always had a smile on his face, He never

779
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: lost his temper, He was always kind. And today we

780
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: saw some footage we haven't seen before of his final minutes,

781
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: final hour when he went into that university and he

782
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: was so happy, so full of life, and so full

783
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: of positivity. It really was so heartbreaking to say that,

784
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: and then to know what followed.

785
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: It was absolutely devastating.

786
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Speaker 8: And every single day he laced up his boots and

787
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 8: he went out there on the battlefield of ideas and

788
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 8: fought for everything that he believed in. And that passion,

789
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 8: that energy should be what fuels us in the days ahead,

790
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 8: in the months ahead, and the years ahead. We've got

791
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 8: to fight like Charlie. And we've got to fight for

792
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 8: Charlie because his legacy should not die with him. It

793
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 8: should be alive. It is alive.

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00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: We see it in this room here today.

795
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Speaker 8: One hundred thousand people that did more numbers than Elvis Presley.

796
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 8: Folks are saying right, and I gotta say again, like

797
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 8: you said, there was no dry eye in this room

798
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 8: after hearing all those incredible speakers and there was a

799
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 8: very very obvious reason for that.

800
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 2: New York Post is reporting there were two hundred thousand

801
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: people in and around the stadium, so the crowd numbers

802
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: are completely incredible.

803
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: But we do have the left.

804
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: We have mainstream Democrats saying that Charlie was a hateful

805
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: figure shouldn't be celebrated. Ilinomar, I think said he's able

806
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: to be a footnote in history. I mean, it's such

807
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 2: a callous remark to make at any time, but particularly now.

808
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: What's your response to her and others like it?

809
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting.

810
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 8: But I think when Maya Angelu said, when Shulman shows

811
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 8: you who they are, believe in the first time, and

812
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 8: I think the left has shown us exactly who they are.

813
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 8: You know, when their heroes die, what do conservatives do?

814
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 8: We pray for them? When our heroes die, what do

815
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,959
Speaker 8: they do? They dance on their graves. And it's a sick,

816
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 8: sick thing that I think that we can only do

817
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 8: is pray for healing for them. What I'll say is

818
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 8: what I love to have seen after this is that

819
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 8: we didn't go and burn down buildings, We didn't go

820
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 8: and riot.

821
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: What did we do? We let up candles and we

822
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: prayed together.

823
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 8: And I think that is what differentiates us from the

824
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 8: left and the right, simple.

825
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: As that it's all good to talk about unity and

826
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: coming together, but how realistic is that when you've got

827
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 2: a certain percentage of the country that thinks violence is

828
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: a reasonable response to disagreement.

829
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: Not just a certain percentage.

830
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 8: According to a you gov poll, nearly fifty percent of

831
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 8: those who identify as liberal belie poltical violence is at

832
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 8: times justified.

833
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, how can we unify with these people? You know?

834
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 8: I think that what we need to do is we

835
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 8: need to again remind ourselves of what American actually being.

836
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: You know what that actually means, and it means.

837
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 8: Having an appreciation for free speech, the discourse, and the

838
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 8: exchange of ideas.

839
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: And we've got to get back.

840
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 8: To that for the sake of our country, for the

841
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 8: survival of our country, if to get back to it.

842
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 8: But as you said, I'm deeply troubled by those stats.

843
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 8: I'm deeply troubled by those polling numbers. And hopefully we

844
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 8: can figure out a way to write this shit before

845
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 8: it's two eight.

846
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: The revival started today.

847
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,959
Speaker 1: It started today, and it's not ending.

848
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: Cig I Pierson, thank you for a time, and that's

849
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Speaker 3: it from May tonight.

850
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Speaker 2: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow night from Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, it's Newsnight.