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Speaker 1: The city and with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: We were lucky enough to go down to Surrey Hills

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Speaker 2: to the police headquarters there and we've got a magnificent

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Speaker 2: tour by the Police Commissioner Karen Webb and she joins

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Speaker 2: us this morning. Welcome Police Commissioner. Great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Good to have the.

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Speaker 3: Head of the force here just to pull things into

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Speaker 3: order a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for showing us around as well. It was fascinating.

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Speaker 2: There's interesting, is it really?

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Speaker 4: See how it works from the call takers right through

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Speaker 4: to down to the cells if you end up in

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Speaker 4: that position.

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Speaker 2: But the amount of people that also with huge events

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Speaker 2: that you have like New Year's Eve or any events

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Speaker 2: like that, and how you guys have eyes and the

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Speaker 2: whole of.

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Speaker 1: The name that Lease Operation said it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that was quite interesting, wasn't it. You start to think, oh,

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Speaker 5: I can't go anywhere one's watching. Yeah, no, but I

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Speaker 5: found it really interesting too because it is a building

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Speaker 5: that you will often drive past when you're in Sydney

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Speaker 5: and you just it's it's another world, you know that. Really,

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Speaker 5: as far as the police force goes, it's what you

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Speaker 5: read in the paper and the odd story about what

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Speaker 5: you're doing wrong or right, or you know what you're

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Speaker 5: being fed by the media. But to actually be on

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Speaker 5: the inside and realize that the people doing the job

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Speaker 5: every day are human beings was I found really very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Commissioner I thought also very personable. So for all

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Speaker 6: the police officers and the staff, you kind of forget

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Speaker 6: that you. I think a lot of people think there's

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Speaker 6: the law and there's the public. And that's what you

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Speaker 6: were suggesting, Kate, was that there's the human side to

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Speaker 6: everybody within the force.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're just members of our community doing the job

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Speaker 4: that we're charged to do, upholding the laws of New

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Speaker 4: South Wales. So people, we're just a microcosm of the community.

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Speaker 2: And you need more police commissioners. You do, and this

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Speaker 2: is a great initiative that you're doing. So police trainee

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Speaker 2: studying at the Gulvin Police and Academy will be paid

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Speaker 2: and receive a salary of thirty thousand dollars over their

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Speaker 2: sixteen weeks study period. This is awesome for anyone that

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Speaker 2: wants to become a police officer.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: You can finish one job on Friday and start with

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Speaker 4: us on Sunday and be paid.

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Speaker 5: Great, okay, And that's a whole brand new initiative and

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Speaker 5: as an incentive to get people involved.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it had been done many years ago. In fact,

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Speaker 4: I was paid when I was trained, but we haven't

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Speaker 4: done it for twenty five years, so it's nice to

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Speaker 4: bring it back.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us about some of the people I

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Speaker 2: love these stories of. And it's not just you know,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be young men or women that

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Speaker 2: are coming out of school that want to be a

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Speaker 2: police officer. People of all ages.

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Speaker 4: All ages, And this incentive is about opening it up

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Speaker 4: to those people that may have always wanted to be

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Speaker 4: a police officer and had some barriers in place. They

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Speaker 4: might have commitments and families and it's a big commitment

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Speaker 4: to pack up and move to Gold with the sixteenth

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Speaker 4: of course, and so hopefully this will break down that

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Speaker 4: barrier and now give those people an opportunity. So the

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Speaker 4: call out is for those people who have thought about

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Speaker 4: a career and the police.

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Speaker 1: This is the perfect time.

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Speaker 2: Did you tell me just outside the student that a

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Speaker 2: woman who had six children decides that's it, I want

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Speaker 2: to be a police officer.

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Speaker 1: She's at the academy currently.

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Speaker 4: I met her on Monday, and she said, you know,

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Speaker 4: I've got six kids, and it's something she's always wanted

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Speaker 4: to do and she's got the opportunity. And will those people,

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Speaker 4: the students at the academy now they will be topped

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Speaker 4: up equivalent to the new program for much?

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Speaker 2: Is she doing that to keep her kids in line?

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Speaker 2: Or sure?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure, Like read the rest of us, it's just

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Speaker 4: that calling that you want to do this job to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it might be easier to be in Goldwyn for

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Speaker 5: sixteen weeks to look after six kids at home.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine after the night I had last night at.

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Speaker 3: Home with got commissioner. Can I ask Windy daily briefing

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Speaker 3: and their police operations, how much are you guys across

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Speaker 3: that we never hear about.

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Speaker 4: Oh, unfortunately, it's a twenty four hour business. Twenty four

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Speaker 4: to seven. Things happen all across this state, day in,

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Speaker 4: day out, and media.

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Speaker 3: Has no idea and you're just cleaning it up.

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Speaker 1: We do.

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Speaker 4: We go about our job lightly and only parts of

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Speaker 4: it make the media, and rightfully so in most circumstances.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes it's you couldn't you don't want to hear

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Speaker 3: One of the biggest challenges that we are across at

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Speaker 3: the moment. What are we facing it?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the pervasive thing is domestic violence mental health.

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Speaker 4: Our calls for service in police responding to mental health

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Speaker 4: is about the same number of domestic violence calls. You

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Speaker 4: about one hundred and forty thousand calls a year for

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Speaker 4: domestic violence, but equal number for mental health cases.

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Speaker 2: It can be a lot of work, Commissioner, It's not

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Speaker 2: it's not good enough. It's been fifty six deaths this

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Speaker 2: year with domestic violence. And I know that you've been

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Speaker 2: talking about this for a while, but there is talk

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Speaker 2: similar to a strike force raptor or putting a strike

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Speaker 2: force together where you guys go out there and come

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Speaker 2: down really hard on these men that are causing these

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Speaker 2: horrific crimes.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Is that going to be ramped up soon?

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Speaker 4: We do have arrest teams for DV offenders that always

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Speaker 4: arrest offenders, and then we have operations where we just

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Speaker 4: have all boots on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Type of harsher crimes for these men. Or is it

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Speaker 4: Certainly, some of the offenses are really at that high

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Speaker 4: end where there's awful things such strangulation, and other things.

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Speaker 4: So it's really high end and high risk for victims. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how much of that though, do you think of that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's only not that, there's only.

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Speaker 5: So much you guys can do at your level. But

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Speaker 5: I would imagine with domestic violence and the you know,

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Speaker 5: the retraining or the re education or just education of

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Speaker 5: young people generally, and not only young men, but women

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Speaker 5: as well. I mean, don't you think that a lot

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Speaker 5: for other people generally has to start at a much

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Speaker 5: lower level so that you're not having to deal with

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Speaker 5: adult offenders. I mean, you need to get this into

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Speaker 5: It needs to be in schools, a policing know, and

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Speaker 5: it's a whole societal problem, and as you say, it

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Speaker 5: starts at home, and it starts in families, and I

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Speaker 5: think the messages can be at schools and a community

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Speaker 5: and sporting events. Really it's everyone can play a part.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's been our messaging. It's not just

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Speaker 5: a policing problem. And I do think everyone can play

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Speaker 2: We would love to open up the lines if you've

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Speaker 2: got any question that you want to ask about the law.

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Speaker 2: It could be about anything. If you want the permissioner

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Speaker 2: to wipe your demerit points right now, this could be

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Speaker 2: an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: She said, you wouldn't do.

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Speaker 2: That, okay, all right, But if there is any question

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Speaker 2: thinking about joining the police, force yourself down and you've

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Speaker 2: been hesitant, this is your opportunity. Mandy's given us a

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Speaker 2: call from Ingleburn. You have the commissioner here. What would

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Speaker 2: you like to ask? Mandy? Hi, I would love to know.

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Speaker 1: I've got three boys and they fight all the time

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Speaker 1: about who is allowed to sit in the front seat.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know what age is a kid

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Speaker 1: allowed to sit in the front seat of a car. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that, Mandy.

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Speaker 4: I've got two boys and I've had the same issue

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Speaker 4: where no were kids, so I empathize.

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Speaker 2: Don't say shotgun around a police.

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Speaker 1: No hold up? No. Legally it's I think age seven.

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Speaker 4: But regardless of their age, we always encourage you to

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Speaker 4: their age, and sometimes it's about their size. If they're

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Speaker 4: seven but still quite small, we'd recommend that they sit

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Speaker 2: In a restraint commandment.

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Speaker 5: Daughters always trying to slide into the front seat. She's

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Speaker 5: like she's throwing the law at me. I think she's

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Speaker 5: been trying to find out that information as well. I

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Speaker 2: Right. Thank you for your cool many Let's go to

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Speaker 2: Holly in Sylvania. You got the commissioner. What's your question, Hi, commissioner.

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Speaker 5: I was just asking about any fitness requirements.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: There are fitness requirements, and if you go to our

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Speaker 4: some standard things that people are required to do before

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Speaker 4: they come to us in terms of having a bronze medallion,

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Speaker 4: being able to swim, typing, and other things, and then

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Speaker 4: and a grip test. It is interesting. It's not just practicing,

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Speaker 4: you know, tennis ball or something. Sometimes that's the way

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Speaker 4: you can lift a weight that helps prepare that muscle,

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Speaker 4: but you can practice it because go one of.

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Speaker 3: The days of the guy who just does steakouts and

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Speaker 3: he just sort of sits in the car eating donuts.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't really.

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Speaker 2: Exist, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But today's officer.

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Speaker 4: I noticed they're much healthier and they're very conscious of

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Speaker 5: I think, what's really nice about when you see people

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Speaker 1: Do you call it on the beat?

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Speaker 5: My dad used to do that in the main street

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Speaker 5: of Campbelltown because your dad and he went to was

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Speaker 5: at the academy down there. And I have to say,

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Speaker 5: I do have quite fantasies of doing it myself. You

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Speaker 5: should do it too late case will exactly. And now

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Speaker 5: I could grab thirty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right in the back of the police carcake.

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Speaker 5: I think, yes, I've done that, and I used to

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Speaker 5: go down and visit data at Campbelltown Police station after school.

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Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is, I think, now when you

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Speaker 5: see people of police officers, if that's what I'm meant

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Speaker 5: to be calling them out and about, they're kind of

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Speaker 5: they're the every person. Now, you know men and women

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Speaker 5: and tattoos and heights and shapes and sizes and cultures.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's what's really nice, because I'm sure

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Speaker 5: that you know a lot of people. When you're calling

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Speaker 5: you don't want them just to be that one part

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Speaker 5: of the camp randic person.

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Speaker 1: No, we're really a reflection of our community, which is great.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Samsin Taramara Sam a question for the commissioner.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Commissioner, obviously, I know speeding is a pretty big

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Speaker 7: no no, but I wanted to know that any excuses

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Speaker 7: for the police will access if you're speeding, those you've

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Speaker 7: Is there anything that was sort of you know, you

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Speaker 1: No. Really, there's no such thing as safe speeding.

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Speaker 4: Police do have discretion, but speeding is the number one

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Speaker 4: killer on our roads. Unfortunately, it's almost fifty percent of

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Speaker 3: Is it increasing.

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Speaker 4: Learning for me because of the number of speeding deaths

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Speaker 5: It's just been that campaign though, sorry where they were.

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Speaker 2: There you go?

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Speaker 4: And if you actually try to stop a vehicle tries

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Speaker 1: That actually makes it more difficult.

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Speaker 2: No, well, thank you please, missioner. You are for your

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Speaker 2: protection of us and around the state. I know how

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Speaker 2: hard you guys work, and thank you for the tour

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Speaker 2: that we had as well. But if you want to

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Speaker 2: join the police force, make sure you go onto their

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Speaker 2: website and like that. Like we said before, they will

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Speaker 2: pay you thirty thousand dollars across the sixteen week training

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Speaker 2: regime in Golburn. Hopefully you get a few more recruits.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, it's great to be here.

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Speaker 3: Thanks commission Thank you.

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