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<v Speaker 1>Five double a football post match callers might just about

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<v Speaker 1>do it here McInnis that would have been deliberate for

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<v Speaker 1>all money for the mcg massager is over, perhaps mercifully

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<v Speaker 1>ninety to one points to margin. Hollywood run out the victors,

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<v Speaker 1>lots to talk about both fans get falling eight double

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<v Speaker 1>two three double o double O. As we pick over

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<v Speaker 1>the in trials and spare a thought would put out

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<v Speaker 1>laide Great.

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<v Speaker 2>Warren's red ray.

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<v Speaker 1>Who has to pick three blogs to give votes to.

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<v Speaker 2>Recommendations suggestions are welcome. An Eckley deep in conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>With Craig mccraig is looking get in the broadcast, have

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<v Speaker 1>been courting, will be all like contempers. You talked them

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<v Speaker 1>out and we talked about the Dan Newsman factor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeahs, I was brought up differently, got of that way.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll see me from dust from momments like that shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's turn our attention to some of the analysis after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Thanks to right price and root leaky root

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<v Speaker 1>total roof respiate you do it right with right twice routing.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was leaky out there for they could put that

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<v Speaker 1>they might made what price to go out there and.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it the old normal games yeah, well it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>no other games. We don't want it. Go oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>admiration you can if you're want, But for me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like you've got to learn a lesson. Every time you'll

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<v Speaker 2>play with you you know you learned, You've got to

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<v Speaker 2>learn a lesson.

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<v Speaker 4>And particularly I think there's lessons to be learned from selection.

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<v Speaker 2>There's lessons to be learned from matchups.

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<v Speaker 4>There's lessons we learned from players attitude and.

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<v Speaker 2>Packing your own effort in your own bag and ready

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<v Speaker 2>to play. Dan used to dominate and play. We knew

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<v Speaker 2>he was a super talented player.

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<v Speaker 4>But I want to surprise how much space he was

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<v Speaker 4>given and that play and a half back you do

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<v Speaker 4>get extra space in your team's dominating.

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<v Speaker 2>But him is probably one of the most influential, if

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<v Speaker 2>not the most influential player in the game. Particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>the first half. He had twenty seven disposals. He was

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<v Speaker 2>run around by himself and absolutely dominated.

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<v Speaker 4>If you look at the scores, sources fifteen goals nine,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a pretty good scorer in most games.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one source from Turno. We'll kick five to six,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the main the game. The seeded ten goals

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<v Speaker 2>in a row or didn't for a shot in that case.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's the challenge, that's the frustration for a team

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<v Speaker 4>that was up against the.

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<v Speaker 5>Ropes being questioned there integ with their football integerty.

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<v Speaker 2>They're eft whether they'll fit enough and all that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bit of.

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<v Speaker 5>Leaf disappointing performance from poor it's round one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the positive, and you get to fight back next

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<v Speaker 4>week and show what you're worth.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got to learn from this.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to learn what's the difference, what's the acceptable

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<v Speaker 5>standards for a club that wants to keep continuing and

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<v Speaker 5>played in a prelim last year and being the last

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<v Speaker 5>three final series and six or the last seven or

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<v Speaker 5>whatever it is, that's not the sanding.

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<v Speaker 2>You accept.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight double two three double o double as the number

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<v Speaker 1>after the game thanks to right Price for roofing. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see the easy part. First, there was no injuries to

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au. And to be fair, they couldn't afford

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<v Speaker 1>any more injuries.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they've had a horror run.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's not to excuse that before excuse it's a reality.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not an ex faiting, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it's a reality, and you go, well, still,

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<v Speaker 4>if your best players come and play to their opt

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<v Speaker 4>and your best performance and everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Plays their best.

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<v Speaker 4>If we go through how many winners in their position, jeez,

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<v Speaker 4>I reckon it best. You might claim three, and they've

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<v Speaker 4>come up with three names the best dress. I think

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<v Speaker 4>one was clearly best against.

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<v Speaker 2>Them their opposition, and that was Jordan's Sweet. But other

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<v Speaker 2>than that, I think you're looking at a few and

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<v Speaker 2>far between.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a massive upside from where this is at, but

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<v Speaker 4>that is the performance they put out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to the votes for unique home Style forwards shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take some calls, starting with John in Nord Evening,

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<v Speaker 1>John Cleven.

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<v Speaker 6>Guys, Yeah, year wine, I just think there was no

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<v Speaker 6>care sac of the night, flagging behind so disappointing. It

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<v Speaker 6>just looked horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Look No, I don't know if yeah, I take your

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<v Speaker 4>point on. I think players do care, but I understand

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<v Speaker 4>what you're saying. It looked like I didn't, and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think there's ever a case the players don't try.

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<v Speaker 4>But jis it was bitterly disappointing. We need to be

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<v Speaker 4>better than that. You can see ten goals in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to show a bit more grit and a

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<v Speaker 4>bit more fight. But I hear you, and he positives

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<v Speaker 4>for you, Johnny or a.

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<v Speaker 7>Not really.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a couple of heres stood up, But that was

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<v Speaker 6>zoning off too much, like you know that where's the care?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, where's the care? You and you've got responsibilities

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<v Speaker 6>out there and there's too many zoning off just from

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<v Speaker 6>my opinion anyway. So however, there's always next work.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool, thanks Mike, let's got to say Cliff Park Gregg.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, good ay, guys, buddy. Look, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 8>think Timmy you may have mentioned a little bit earlier on,

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<v Speaker 8>but it looked to me like Ken Hinckley was smiling

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<v Speaker 8>at them in the game. Did you guys hit it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 8>Can you imagine Timmy John Tayl losing round one nineteen

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<v Speaker 8>eighty eight. I just wanted you to picture this. He's

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<v Speaker 8>come off the field. You've been flogged by an arch rival,

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<v Speaker 8>Glenell for example. Yeah, and he's come off and he's

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<v Speaker 8>standing next to Carnsey yep, and he's having a chuckle

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<v Speaker 8>that because I'm enough to remember mate, when Port Adelaide

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<v Speaker 8>used to be proud and that kind of stuff was

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<v Speaker 8>just unacceptable. It's just revolting. We have just watched a

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<v Speaker 8>disgraceful performance. We've got a coach who has got another

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<v Speaker 8>year ahead of him and we all know. I think

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<v Speaker 8>anyone that's not a happy clapper knows that he is

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<v Speaker 8>not up to it. We've got a guy who's sitting

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<v Speaker 8>in the box, who is the coach to be, who

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<v Speaker 8>I'm a little bit concerned may not be the best

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<v Speaker 8>guy for the job.

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<v Speaker 9>I hope he is.

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<v Speaker 8>And every Portday supporter with a beating heart that absolutely

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<v Speaker 8>believes and loves his club knows that and wants that

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<v Speaker 8>to be true. I hope that made the right decision

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<v Speaker 8>with Darth.

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<v Speaker 9>But when you've got a.

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<v Speaker 8>Coach laughing with the opposition coach like that, it makes

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<v Speaker 8>me feel sick. Can't You should not be you should

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<v Speaker 8>not be doing that. Come on, guys and look Warren

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<v Speaker 8>statut of this because I don't want to get to

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<v Speaker 8>any trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to get into any of that. Apart

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<v Speaker 4>from the fact the car be it. Judge Josh when

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<v Speaker 4>he's in the chair that's all I say. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's fair from everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. But you can make your points. And absolutely absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I've just been brought up differently.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg made the point about John Carle's face.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I said, also, I said the same thing. I said.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope at the end of this you're not hugging Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>Houstare We used to.

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<v Speaker 3>They knew it was going to come and say, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just we're just brought up differently. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. I just I'm so such a fierce

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<v Speaker 3>competitor that when I lose.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have noticed it.

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<v Speaker 2>To babies to shake in i'd say thanks, they say

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<v Speaker 2>good luck and.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks, yeah, exactly what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they do that anyway. I didn't wish

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<v Speaker 2>anyone like I'm trying to be your mate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but postgame when you've lost, and Greg was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about now round one, imagine, I said, I remember round one,

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<v Speaker 3>ninety ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>We lost by ninety five points.

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<v Speaker 3>We got absolutely smashed by the one elk and they're

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<v Speaker 3>won a lot of smile and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, we had a group that you were super confident in,

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<v Speaker 3>with enough experience to go. You know what, this mobile

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<v Speaker 3>bounced back and we're not bounced back. We went forward

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<v Speaker 3>and one another flag. But the point of the thing

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<v Speaker 3>was it's you had. It's the pride and the and

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<v Speaker 3>the hurt that comes with losing you and you like

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<v Speaker 3>that's got to burn deep inside. Otherwise you don't react.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't bring any energy tonight. Usually saying about it

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<v Speaker 3>when we talk about that, it's mad. It's young footballers.

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<v Speaker 1>You say generationally different, it's different, but Ken's not generationally

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<v Speaker 1>so different. It's the same year as me. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting look.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I said, I was brought up differently. Let's go

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<v Speaker 3>to Hanley Bleach today.

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<v Speaker 2>Steven.

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<v Speaker 9>Is that Steve from Hanley Bee?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's you. So sorry, don't you just got up? Steven?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry about that, Steve Gofer?

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks, just uh, just wondering. So you guys are calling

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<v Speaker 9>off the fox Fille podcast tonight, So traders as at

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<v Speaker 9>the footy club because we could see when the crowd

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<v Speaker 9>numbers came up, sixty three thousand twitters went sixty two

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<v Speaker 9>thousand done tonight and then when the just and hold

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<v Speaker 9>three of the stats came up, there was fifty three

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<v Speaker 9>percent in the midfield and forty three percent in the

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<v Speaker 9>cord line and sows went oh in the forward line

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<v Speaker 9>or in the midfield. So traders, you're a director of

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<v Speaker 9>forty club and you're calling off the broadcast and reading

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<v Speaker 9>out the stats from the Foxtel forecast.

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<v Speaker 4>So what's your point, Stephen. I've got my own stats here.

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<v Speaker 4>I also call other stats.

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<v Speaker 10>What.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what your point is.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't have your own opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>You just call off the I've had my own opinion

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<v Speaker 2>the whole night.

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<v Speaker 9>No, no, no, no, I just quoted.

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<v Speaker 4>You quoted quite two instances. Yes, there's multiple versions from stats.

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<v Speaker 2>I get. What's your point?

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<v Speaker 9>So you're a footage director of this club. You came

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<v Speaker 9>on with the board make changes because you said you

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<v Speaker 9>could make a big difference of this club. And did

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<v Speaker 9>I say that, Well, do you want to go back

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<v Speaker 9>to it?

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<v Speaker 11>Treasures?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I didn't say I could make big changes. I

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<v Speaker 4>said I'll be trying to go on. I hope I

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<v Speaker 4>can make.

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<v Speaker 9>You don't want to make big changes. You want to leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Que respectfully, Respectfully, Steve, I'm one of I'm one of

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<v Speaker 4>ten directors on the football club, and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>help my football club, So what what's your point?

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<v Speaker 9>But you went on to there to not make big changes.

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<v Speaker 9>You went on to the to not make changes at all.

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<v Speaker 9>I didn't say that if you want. I just asked

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<v Speaker 9>you if you went on to make big changes.

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<v Speaker 4>You said no, Well, I'm not here to publicly reveal

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<v Speaker 4>what stuff I'm doing because I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think I think people have known my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>But also too, the way the football clubs work. There

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<v Speaker 4>are ten directors on a football club, and I'm one.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you think I can walk in and make

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<v Speaker 4>every change that I pluck from the sky and I

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<v Speaker 4>get my own way, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not how it works. I sit on a football committee.

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<v Speaker 4>There's about six people, of which there's three directors on there, myself,

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<v Speaker 4>George Fiachi and Cos Cardon, and then a few other people.

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<v Speaker 4>Don CASSISI Rob Snowden, Chris Davies sits on there and

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<v Speaker 4>we discuss all the football issues. People present stuff I

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<v Speaker 4>can speak about what we do, speak about, offer contracts,

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<v Speaker 4>we have to ratify those options, talk about recruiting targets,

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<v Speaker 4>free agency, salary cap. That's my role on there, and

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<v Speaker 4>to ask all those questions. And just because you don't

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<v Speaker 4>hear me publicly asking those questions. I can guarantee you

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<v Speaker 4>I'm privately invested and albeit unpaid, to step up for

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<v Speaker 4>my club to get ridiculous phone calls of that questioning

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<v Speaker 4>because I haven't blown the place up, like I'm here

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<v Speaker 4>to support and make it better. Times change and it

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<v Speaker 4>takes time to implement stuff. People want to go, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let's put this one example right now, Houston. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we gave him away for nothing? Well, no, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>believe we did. I think we've got a really good

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<v Speaker 4>player in the future and a few other stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>we've done. But if a player wants to leave, you've

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<v Speaker 4>actually got to be a decision do we hold him

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<v Speaker 4>or do we do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do we want to get in the draft? All

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<v Speaker 2>these different mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm one of seven people on a committee and

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<v Speaker 4>one of ten people as a board of director. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you think I went in promising I could nuke

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<v Speaker 4>the joint or take it over like its mind. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not running Abramovich your own Chelsea, who gets every decision.

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<v Speaker 4>But what I do is play a role, and every

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<v Speaker 4>person plays a role. So to sit there and think

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<v Speaker 4>that I promised to change it. Well, that was never

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the case. Let's not be ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's go to Parakadino. What'd you make of it?

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<v Speaker 12>Yep, yeah, I just want to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 12>every time I've been watching them. I was very young,

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<v Speaker 12>in the last six seven years, probably even you know,

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<v Speaker 12>even the.

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<v Speaker 13>Last two to three years.

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<v Speaker 14>Every single time I watch them, when they bucks up

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<v Speaker 14>against the wall during the game, you know, they get

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<v Speaker 14>two three, four goal kids them. How come they can't

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<v Speaker 14>stown the flow? How come they can't?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a list?

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<v Speaker 14>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it?

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<v Speaker 15>Is it attitude?

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<v Speaker 16>Is it hunger?

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<v Speaker 17>What is it?

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<v Speaker 14>I want to get your thoughts on what you've seen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's well, ten answered unanswered goals. It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>needs to be better, simply needs to be better. I

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<v Speaker 4>know what you're saying. And I'm frustrated because I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 4>there going how can we not stem the floor? How

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<v Speaker 4>can we not go men or men and actually make

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<v Speaker 4>a difference. We can actually wrestle it back. And there's

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<v Speaker 4>times when Port's done that significantly.

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<v Speaker 2>Our last four or five years.

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<v Speaker 4>But today it's just one of those days that no

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<v Speaker 4>matter what they tried, they might turn the ball over,

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<v Speaker 4>then it's a poor kick, and then you cop it

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<v Speaker 4>back with interest. So yeah, it was. It was a

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<v Speaker 4>shocking performance from it. It was an Adelaide like performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Dane Lauren in Morphet Va. What did you say?

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<v Speaker 18>Oh my goodness, the defense. We really fell down in

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<v Speaker 18>the defense. I was so sad about that tonight and

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<v Speaker 18>also trying to don't worry about the last carter you had.

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<v Speaker 9>That was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 18>But I just can't believe that we can't see we

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<v Speaker 18>need the tools in defense? And what about Oli Lord?

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<v Speaker 18>Can you not put Oli Lord in? And I know

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<v Speaker 18>the guy really tries with the passion, but he gets

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<v Speaker 18>put in, he gets dropped, he gets put in, he

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<v Speaker 18>gets dropped. He doesn't have consistency. And this is what

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<v Speaker 18>really annoys me. We've got to have players that have

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<v Speaker 18>confidence in themselves and until we get you know, and

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<v Speaker 18>he even Dante last last year gets freemantle, did will,

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<v Speaker 18>But what do we doing playing with all smaller players

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<v Speaker 18>in defense? And I'm sorry a couple of the bloats

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<v Speaker 18>up there in the defense tonight did not cover.

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<v Speaker 11>But all of that, I love.

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<v Speaker 18>My team, and you know, I've been barracking for Port

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<v Speaker 18>since nineteen sixty three and tonight was not a good night.

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<v Speaker 18>But why has Collingwood got first game up with Port

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<v Speaker 18>Adelaide and then we never see them playing in Adelaide Oval?

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<v Speaker 18>What what does the AFL do with this straw? This

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<v Speaker 18>straw this year has been absolutely abysmal and that's what's

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<v Speaker 18>really getting under my goat is just so frustrating and

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<v Speaker 18>Jason horn Hard and Francis tonight doing, I mean, for

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<v Speaker 18>God's sake, get over yourselves. Collingwood, you are not the

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<v Speaker 18>all end of vfl AFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Lauren, good call, because you know what the other bit is.

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<v Speaker 4>You called it a draw draw, It's a fixture, so

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<v Speaker 4>it's fixed in the AFLs to it it is in

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<v Speaker 4>terms it's fixed when I don't say match fixed, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's fixed. The fixture is made so it gets TV

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<v Speaker 4>broadcast numbers and popular like through the gate Attten numbers, numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how it's set up.

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<v Speaker 1>An eveness of competition because as Lauren's correct, the last

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<v Speaker 1>time these sides played MCG.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, and that can be frustrating. The other thing too,

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<v Speaker 4>like a classic example is gather around. It's great for

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<v Speaker 4>South Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not necessarily superb for clubs because you look

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<v Speaker 4>at the biggest game that Port would play this year,

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<v Speaker 4>it would be a Collingwood and rivalry wise now with

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<v Speaker 4>what went on off field Hawthorne, but Hawthorne is that's

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<v Speaker 4>an AFL go and gather round. So in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the finances, the local clubs make minimal money out of gathering.

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<v Speaker 4>So these are the bits and pieces, But fundamentally it

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't excuse us from a performance which was subpar.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim, what did you make give your sides performance?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You Tim? Not this Tim. He can't talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim can talk to Tim.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a bottle of Jamison's with his name on it.

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<v Speaker 17>Look Tim from Time's Park. Look it's one of Timmy

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<v Speaker 17>and Treaders.

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<v Speaker 7>Guys.

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<v Speaker 17>This is the worst result to the whole you know,

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<v Speaker 17>succession plan, Like there's going to be so much heat

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<v Speaker 17>on Inkley now I don't know you have that. How

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<v Speaker 17>are they going to manage that could be unbearable?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the ideal start.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree with you there, Tim, it's and and the

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<v Speaker 3>succession plan is such I've I've interviewed Chris Davies, We've

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<v Speaker 3>interviewed Josh Carr and the like, and it was basically, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's business as usual, so we're going ahead with all this.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, We'll say, if you sat down had discussions

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<v Speaker 3>about how are you going to start handed, none of

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<v Speaker 3>that's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Business as usual. So I'm with you, Tim.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that the decision was made to maybe take

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<v Speaker 3>some ayor out out of that. A ninety one point

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<v Speaker 3>lost straight up doesn't help the scenario. So I said,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a difficult manager all year. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a challenge, and this is not the

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<v Speaker 3>start we want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Gina's got some queries about this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Tim. Geno in Virginia. Good evening, Yeah, good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 19>So basically, yeah, I have I haven't been following, you know,

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<v Speaker 19>the club's policy on a new coach. When Hinkley's going,

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<v Speaker 19>you know, I just butt out during the off season.

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<v Speaker 19>Then I just say it on oh well, I've just

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<v Speaker 19>seen on the Twitter or on actually on the put

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<v Speaker 19>Adelaide website that Hinkley it's this farewell year. I know,

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<v Speaker 19>you know that's good. God wouldn't have gone seven years ago, basically,

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<v Speaker 19>But then I thought they've just got a succession plan

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<v Speaker 19>and Car's just coming in. I thought, well, may I

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<v Speaker 19>have just advertising? I didn't think Carl will just step in.

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<v Speaker 19>I don't know what coaches are out there, But when

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<v Speaker 19>you think you'd advertised, I don't know about This is

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<v Speaker 19>a succession plan from an untried coach. You Treasury are

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<v Speaker 19>on the board now, So and.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim, what are you happy with that?

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<v Speaker 13>I having a seccession plan.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a difficult manager and no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only seen probably two work, and that's Paul Ruse

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<v Speaker 3>has been both in both involved in both one to

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<v Speaker 3>Tom and one to Goodwin, where he did it very

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<v Speaker 3>very well in a probably a different situation of.

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<v Speaker 4>Where he seems to be positive. The only one that

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<v Speaker 4>didn't work was the Mouldhouse Buckley.

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<v Speaker 3>One, and I think Clark's and Mitchell worked either well.

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<v Speaker 4>That wasn't a succession plan. That was a forced on Clark.

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<v Speaker 4>Clarko signed on supposed to be here. He didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>about that when he signed the contract. He was told

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<v Speaker 4>about that with one year to go. It's a different one.

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<v Speaker 4>But for for Yeah Gena, there was a process run.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a process run m all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right to Port Gasta, but it's been hot and Portagasta today, John,

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<v Speaker 1>good evening to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, Well, I wanted to play Make You to day,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm hot now I can play Anger.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I can if you gotta win the time in, you

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<v Speaker 7>gotta wind time you get a learn something. But they're trying,

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<v Speaker 7>and they's trying. I want that big water on box

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<v Speaker 7>and our guys the type of game the way lord

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<v Speaker 7>have a little buying border game. But I thought we've

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<v Speaker 7>never gotten that big water. They court, they tried, but

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<v Speaker 7>did they really try? And and I I said, I

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<v Speaker 7>they should have put a football bub and I think of.

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<v Speaker 17>Howd all of that?

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying hot steam bom Twitter is a family friend

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<v Speaker 7>of my grandfather. Before during our take of a war

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<v Speaker 7>box Willens X. But yeah, I'm just thinking of those bikes.

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<v Speaker 7>What might be thinking tonight? I could probably mid seventies,

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<v Speaker 7>the big seventies. I love him and all that great

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<v Speaker 7>for me, but he is what's his name? Oh, James.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't have a good gun tonight. I was singing his praises.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought his pre season be pretty good, but got

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<v Speaker 4>found out to know it and it made a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of costly errors back to back which really dampty his confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's got a history of it below his knees

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<v Speaker 3>and above his head. And if you can't eliminate that,

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes very very perilouship position in the side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And the thing is too, I think he drafted an

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<v Speaker 4>under eight and first round pick. I think he was

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<v Speaker 4>an next generation Academy pick. But he played.

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<v Speaker 2>Woodville League footy. I think might have played a bread

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<v Speaker 2>He did.

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<v Speaker 4>It as a high half back. Yeah, but what the

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<v Speaker 4>smart the AFL do? They dragging back to gospel, which

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<v Speaker 4>is not his preferred position. So he needs to fight

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<v Speaker 4>that or find another position, either there or wing or

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere different. I think he's certainly got a future, but

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment he's and not giving him out. But

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at the inside fifty differential, Oh no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's head to north Avan, Dave. You think Lackie Jones

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't He's not, But there was yet a few mates

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, you're you're not wrong there to me.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, how much time that I've rang in.

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<v Speaker 10>The last year or two. Yeah, every time there's a

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<v Speaker 10>game of a pressure game where the players that you

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<v Speaker 10>think are going to do good do nothing. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 10>you know who they are. I keep say bringing up

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<v Speaker 10>and I can't believe that the actual game of thin

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<v Speaker 10>lacens today. How soft can a guy be? I want

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<v Speaker 10>you to go in the I know you can't do it,

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<v Speaker 10>but I'd love you to go you owning a little

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<v Speaker 10>bloke and walk to their face back and say you

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<v Speaker 10>know you have soft you up for a six foot

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<v Speaker 10>fall guy. And you know I told you before. At

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<v Speaker 10>the end of last season we got Lukosis, another soft player,

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<v Speaker 10>then Lays and soft Burne Jones does nothing. Really, what

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<v Speaker 10>did you do Tarana pressure and nothing? Berg gone second

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<v Speaker 10>to the ball? You interviewed him last year and ask

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<v Speaker 10>him what do you do when you don't play football?

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 10>I play video games.

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:20.199
<v Speaker 1>If I was.

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<v Speaker 10>Built like him, I'll be in the gym pumping on

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<v Speaker 10>and so so people be afraid of me going up.

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 10>If people look at him and just go straight through him.

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:29.000
<v Speaker 10>That's why he's second at the ball. Sin he's not

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.680
<v Speaker 10>a AFL footballer need as well.

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<v Speaker 17>You know what I mean.

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.200
<v Speaker 10>He's nothing like his dad, you know. And without Suite

0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 10>and Francis today we were lost by two hundred and

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 10>ninety points. And don't worry about Roses. What possessions he

0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:42.959
<v Speaker 10>got in the last half, the game was over. You know,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.720
<v Speaker 10>if we didn't have Suite or Francis turn a ninety

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 10>point deficion. He's the young one of the youngest players,

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 10>and he puts his body on the line and then

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 10>all the rest around they just look at him and say, well,

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:55.280
<v Speaker 10>we'll just let him do keep doing it all day.

0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.560
<v Speaker 10>He can't do it on his own. Where are the coaches?

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:00.400
<v Speaker 10>You know, why can't someone walk up to.

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<v Speaker 4>First?

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.240
<v Speaker 10>How simple is that, Dave?

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't often get anything wrong? Mate, is spot on

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>again tonight. Well done, buddy.

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Let's got to port Adelaide in the heart off Tyby.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh yeah, pretty fair to say that our club's direction

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 13>has wavered. We've been let on a what if journey

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.080
<v Speaker 13>for many years now and tonight is the capitulation of that.

0:24:28.119 --> 0:24:30.320
<v Speaker 13>And it might be round one and we're all going

0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 13>off early.

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<v Speaker 17>But what you saw.

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Tonight was.

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<v Speaker 13>The whole off season of us trying to bring out

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:40.040
<v Speaker 13>our best game plan. And we look back the club

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.719
<v Speaker 13>that are rubbing out at around twenty three not prepared

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 13>to turn up next year. So there is just no direction.

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 13>You've got to coach that's leaving. You've got to coach

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.640
<v Speaker 13>that thinks he's got the spot. I think you've got

0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:57.879
<v Speaker 13>turmoil at the top level. We've got people like David

0:24:57.920 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 13>Kost that are you know, I brought a lot of

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:04.239
<v Speaker 13>money but no success. So I think we have to

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 13>just tear it all up and start again. To be honest.

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.720
<v Speaker 2>At the top level you're talking about, well.

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 13>I've got a real problem with people like probably David Kosh.

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 13>They bring a very sort of not traditional Port Adelaide mentality.

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 13>I don't know the rest of the board intimately, so

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 13>I can't make comment. But if I'm a supporter and

0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 13>I'm looking at what we keep producing, it's it's subper

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.480
<v Speaker 13>and you can accept that we've been trying our best.

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 13>But you've got a lot of different faces tonight, the

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 13>people that are on the park. Obviously the instruction is

0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 13>not getting through to probably good cattle. So I don't know.

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 13>Everybody's going to make their own opinion. But there's no

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:56.640
<v Speaker 13>defense tonight, is there treads.

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 4>You can't defend that that was afore wards And you Knowchael,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 4>when you take the good performances and the pats on

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:06.919
<v Speaker 4>the back, you've got to copy your whack when it

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:07.719
<v Speaker 4>doesn't go that.

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, Toby. Let's say, do you seeking gardens?

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 20>Judy good evening, Hi Warren, Hi, Jimmy, guys, where's our

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 20>bloody seconds coming in? Where we've got no depths? We

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 20>had no defense tonight? They put Burton on the interchange.

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 20>They should have put Burton on the forward line or

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 20>put Finn Lason in the forward line and put bloody

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 20>Burton in the defense. Where have we got depths at

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 20>our club for the next game?

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, this is the thing. Radigalia might come back. That

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 4>there there are injuries. I'm not saying it's an excuse.

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>It to reality.

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 4>So there are players that are missing, but as you

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 4>best play the last two years is not there. But

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 4>you've got to find a way to bring up something

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.199
<v Speaker 4>better than what we saw tonight.

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Radigalia might chance to return.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure the latest on that, but he was

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 4>running pretty heavily two weeks ago. I did see him

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 4>at the trial game doing that. Who comes in, Well,

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:11.120
<v Speaker 4>that's that's the decision for the coaching panel. That's where

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 4>they get paid the money to deliver and to motivate

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 4>the players to review this to get a better result,

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 4>for the leaders to stand up these blokes are getting

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 4>played good money right, And I'm not saying you just

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 4>put it straight on the players, but the reality is

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 4>people outside to sit there and go, what's the performance?

0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.680
<v Speaker 4>Like the fans aren't happy, it's up to the players.

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.640
<v Speaker 4>Like the Collingwood players did this week after a terrible

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 4>period of time, but not as bad as what we

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 4>played tonight. And it's on the whole club to turn

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 4>it round. And it starts with people looking in the

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 4>mirror everyone and going was I at my best? And

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 4>if not, how can I get to my best? And

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 4>how soon can I get to my best? And what

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 4>am I willing to do to get to my best?

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 4>Is an extra ice bath to the extra fitness is

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 4>an extra recovery.

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Did I become with the best mindset? Did we have

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>the best tactics?

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 4>All these types of things, and then there needs to

0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 4>be a reviewing process every game, and when once.

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 3>You get to reap on nine, all those things aren't right.

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Each and every one of those things ain't right.

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:04.120
<v Speaker 1>They can't.

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 3>I thought they were at trial pace compared to you know,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 3>game pace.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I thought the.

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>Pressure that well, they were embarrassed last week. So they've

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:14.239
<v Speaker 3>come in with it and you've got to expect that

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 3>that's going to happen. So you know, port Adelais just

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 3>didn't handle any of it. Under pressure, they look panicky,

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, entire panicky, balls flying everywhere, miskicks, fumbles below

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.360
<v Speaker 3>the knees, all the.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Rest of I always judge a player by how.

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Clean they are under their knees under pressure, and the

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 3>way that they commit their body and look. Dave from

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 3>North Haven doesn't miss too often. And the way we,

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I think times could have put ourselves under a lot

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 3>more physical stress wasn't happening. And therefore Collingwood, who were

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 3>at that level, we were nowhere near it. So all

0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 3>those things treaders are talking about is are correct. And

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:57.560
<v Speaker 3>I probably was disappointed that the Dan Houston.

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Plan there wasn't one that was just loud Dan to

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>be Dan. What was it sixteen goals from turnover in

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>the end near one hundred points?

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fifteen nine, fifteen nine.

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to north Havevan John good evening.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 15>Yes, good evening him the first one of all the

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 15>negative nancies and nevels that are on the bloody line,

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 15>Like Dave from North Haven. He's visit to Assassin, he's

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 15>been online and on a very I don't I don't call,

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 15>but he shot down everybody for oul as and for

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 15>going back ages with Marshall. I bet my left Haggard

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 15>that he's never coached anybody. I bet he's never coached juniors,

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 15>so really has no understanding of how to develop people. Anyway.

0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 15>That's for first comment. The second comment is the AFIL

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 15>draw is really the crippled that hurt Port Adelaide by

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 15>not being a battle or max hardened by Colinwood having

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 15>their first game against DWS, which is a tough game

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 15>and so their battle hard yesterday last and they've come

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 15>into it. Port Adelaide were not that attuned to the experience,

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 15>so I'm not going to knock them for how their

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 15>performance was. Sure there were samars, I was sure there's

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 15>some turnovers. However, it should have been by the gun.

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 15>All teams start at the same time, not this stupid

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 15>opening round. We're poor a really a game behind. That's

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 15>my comment, thanks very much.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Now it's spot on, John. I don't like this opening round,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:34.959
<v Speaker 3>never liked it. Well, I think that any time now

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 3>it's not ridiculous with what we've just been through, come

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 3>up with a.

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Really good idea I love it.

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, two games in Adelaide, two games and put your

0:30:43.920 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 4>priority games in Queensland and New South Wales so you

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 4>might play Thursday, Friday, Saturday, whatever, and then you can

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 4>play the lesser games during the day in Adelaide or Perth.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I just don't think it works.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 3>It is a clear advantage having a game at that

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 3>tempo round one, well.

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Sorry zero round when you haven't played.

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because you've got clubs doing internal trials before they're

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>taking off side that's played the week before.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>And if we're completely honest, that doesn't give you ninety

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>one point.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not an excuse.

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 3>For to That was appalling, absolutely appalling, But I'm talking

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.880
<v Speaker 3>about overall as a competition. I don't want to be

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 3>playing anybody that's had a game on me and I've

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 3>played an.

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 1>Internal and I'd love to see the AFILs metrics and

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>whether you're getting what you are oi.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 2>This year called off.

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. It wouldn't have been fun mate

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>fan in Melbourne tonight and that's exactly what Peter and

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>West Melbourne is. Peter, did you go to the game?

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 16>I went to the game, and I'm ashamed to say

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 16>this is the first time I've Actually the most efficient

0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 16>thing about tonight was getting in the taxi at three

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 16>quarter a time and getting to West Melbourne. Actually, so yeah,

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 16>it was hard work, but I just thought we got

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 16>absolutely smashed around the clearances and that didn't set us

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.120
<v Speaker 16>up very well. But interested to see what you guys think.

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 16>I know, ninety one point lost, but the zoning seeing

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 16>some of the worst that I've ever seen, Like we

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 16>didn't really man up at all. We just we just

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 16>went for the zone and there was not much body contact.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:13.440
<v Speaker 16>What do you guys think?

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 2>That's a great call, Pike, that's a good call.

0:32:15.880 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 4>And I think you taught the contest and clearances ended

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 4>up what were they thirty six thirty nine port winner.

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 4>But at the start of the game, when the whips

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 4>were cracking, it was thirteen inside fifties to four clearances,

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 4>twelve six center clearances, five one first years, get the

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 4>ball inside forward fifty and executed and that was the game.

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 1>Bill in Port Adelaide is well back in the heart

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>land Morning evening, Bill, where are we are? I don't

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>know what show am I on? Bill? How are you

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>going you sleep? Any I love lost track.

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 13>Pretty much the same.

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 21>Didn't expect to win, but to get humiliated by that

0:32:54.520 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 21>much is a disgrace. Their efficiency going forward Collingwood to

0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 21>go on forward is a lot better than Port Adelaide's

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 21>had always had the problem going forward and finding the

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 21>key forward going into attack. I think I believe that

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 21>if Radigala comes back, they that need to play pin

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:26.680
<v Speaker 21>lasson forward and maybe only Lord Is on the interchange

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 21>just to help out because they haven't got in. They

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 21>didn't have enough going forward. They only had one person

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 21>to look for and Georgia I just was out Mark.

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 21>He's a taller opponent. I think the guy who was

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 21>standing darcymore and there was just no efficient to go on. Well,

0:33:43.840 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 21>we're just going forward in Hope.

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 13>You know.

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 21>It was just it was just totally embarrassing. I couldn't

0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 21>I couldn't watch it. It's the lad telecast.

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 13>I just couldn't watch.

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 21>It's just too embarrassing, you know, And I'm sorry, But

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 21>in the preliminary final last year, things stood out like dogs,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 21>you know what. And there was a bloke playing in

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 21>the preliminary final. He's a great player, being a great player,

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.800
<v Speaker 21>but he gave up four goals in the preliminary final

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 21>and tonight he tried hard, but they gave next year.

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 21>I'm sorry. I wouldn't have done him next year. You know,

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 21>I don't understand. You know, football is a business. It's

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 21>not a sentiment to give hand people games.

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 13>Sorry, that's all.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>No need to apologize.

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Bill.

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:34.960
<v Speaker 3>That was deserves every criticism it possibly can receive. That performance.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 3>Let's go to Beverly get I mixed good?

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Well are you there?

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, listen, I think what we all have, but I

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 11>think we all need to be honest. And you know

0:34:49.880 --> 0:34:52.280
<v Speaker 11>this caller back there, John having a goal, another caller

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.279
<v Speaker 11>for being a negative Nancy. But this has been going

0:34:55.320 --> 0:35:00.439
<v Speaker 11>on for years and years. Nothing's changing, absolutely nothing. If

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 11>the boys didn't know today Colin, we were going to

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 11>be up and about after getting humiliated, they knew what

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 11>was going to come and put up that in stepid

0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 11>performance today speaks a lot of where we are as

0:35:12.280 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 11>a club. I feel what's happened in the last ten

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 11>years this wouldn't be accepted. He's been there for twelve

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 11>years and we're watching the same rubbish every year. And

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.760
<v Speaker 11>he's going to come out tomorrow tonight and his press

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 11>conference of I've got a few things to learn. We've

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 11>heard all this rubbish every year. We just can't keep

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 11>doing this. We've got to make the hard call, get

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 11>rid of him after today. Let's get clear the slate.

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.479
<v Speaker 11>We're going to pay him anyway for a year. Let's

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 11>do it today. See later, Kenny, thanks for your time,

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 11>and give Josh a car and give him a year.

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.799
<v Speaker 11>And if Josh might not be the right man, let's

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 11>give him a year and see what he does and

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.439
<v Speaker 11>go from there. Because we shouldn't just give it to Josh.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 11>I think we need to get the best person we

0:35:57.239 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 11>can that might not be Josh.

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Alright, thank you, make appreciate your thoughts, and take the

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Paul. What did you say tonight?

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:09.279
<v Speaker 22>It is thanks for taking my call. Just a couple

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 22>of things. What the first thing, what you boys thought

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 22>of just having sweets as a ruckman and Olive Wyane

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 22>is the second ruck I just thought that their rockman,

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 22>you know, I know it was the second rugman most

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 22>of the time, but he Olive one just can't really

0:36:26.280 --> 0:36:28.439
<v Speaker 22>do anything and they towards the game one of your

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 22>boys in the clearance. And second, I was listening to

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 22>Tim and g and Rowie during the week and Rowie

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 22>was pointing out that this new game plan that Orange

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 22>Tsunami that.

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:40.240
<v Speaker 9>We're trying to take off.

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 22>Gee with handbling, I just think sometimes we're handbling a

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 22>bit too much trying to get forward. Unless there was

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 22>the issue you know, we are if we handball a

0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 22>meta mistate, that opposition would just go back and score

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:58.239
<v Speaker 22>on us, which is hard defense on the other end.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 22>But I wanted to know you boys thought, with Olive

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 22>Wan's being the second road tonight and also whole game

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:08.879
<v Speaker 22>plan with this new home handballing game that we're trying

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 22>to implement, who.

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Is the Richmond player, boys that when Richmond won the

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 4>flag against Adelaide, Steve Gregg, Greg Sean Gregg was a

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 4>shore So for me, the second ruck is not as

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 4>influential as you think. But I do take your point

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 4>because we're using Olie and always one of our better

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 4>clearance plays.

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>The issue for me, I don't think Grigg was a midfielder.

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 2>Was he Well he sort of was, but not an

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 2>inside me.

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Now you're right, he was sacrificed, sacrificed Olie.

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but this is the bit I get it, and

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 4>I understand the sentiment. Take you back though we had

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 4>a ruckman who dominated tonight and we still.

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Got built in the clearances early on.

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.560
<v Speaker 4>So for me, that's said our mids weren't having the

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 4>connection or bringing the effort appropriate to match what Collingwood did.

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Because they Colin Wood. Remember years ago.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 4>When Dane Swann and they had Josh Fraser's rugman Collingwood,

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 4>they were the worst hit out to clearance team hitout

0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.880
<v Speaker 4>team in the comp but our number one for clearances,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.040
<v Speaker 4>so that says they can pick it off the opposition.

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.280
<v Speaker 4>So for me, it was the mental ability to compete

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 4>early on. That was the area that was lacking, and

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 4>I think it stayed throughout the game. Not necessarily whether

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:12.840
<v Speaker 4>Oli wants his second ruck early on when the clearance

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 4>is at twelve six and you're thirteen and four inside

0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 4>fifties against that's the game. So yeah, you could look

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:20.160
<v Speaker 4>at Oli lord, but he's going to have to be

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.120
<v Speaker 4>a forward eighty percent of the time to pinch hit

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.880
<v Speaker 4>for ruk. So it's just whether you value the twenty

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 4>minutes as a ruckman more so than having some extra

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 4>flexibility on your list, and a lot of teams will

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 4>only play with run one ruck unless you've got a

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 4>forward and that's the beauty of a Charlie Dixon or

0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:42.320
<v Speaker 4>a Darcy who plays at the Bulldogs, or Joe Danaher

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 4>who was a Brisbane He can pinch hit for ten minutes,

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 4>but he's a forward mainstay, you know what I mean.

0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 4>So that's the dynamic you got. And at the moment

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 4>we don't have that forward ruck unless it's an Oi Lord,

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 4>but he hasn't done enough to get into the team

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.200
<v Speaker 4>from the coach's perspective heading into round one, all right.

0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>We might take one more call. Last word before we

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>get to the of the black Footy Awards will be

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.280
<v Speaker 1>from Joe in Royal Park. I think Joe, goodad.

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:06.120
<v Speaker 10>Guys, how are you hey?

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 17>Joe, Hey, I've got.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 13>A serious question.

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 23>It relates to no stats, It relates to no game plan,

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 23>it relates to no coaches. I want to know where

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 23>the old scored port, where the old school Port Adelaide went,

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 23>Where did the creed go? Where did we live and

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:23.320
<v Speaker 23>die by the club, Because until we get that back,

0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 23>we won't change. We can change coaches, we can change

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 23>board members, everything can change in treaders. I'm pretty sure,

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 23>and Timmy, I'm pretty sure. You guys are on the

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 23>same wave link because until we get that old school

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:36.479
<v Speaker 23>Port Adelaide back, it's not going to change. I remember

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 23>coming up through development squads, we'd play the make Pies

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 23>and they were a different breed. We were boys that

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 23>they were men. It came down from the grassroots. And

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 23>until we get that back, and I know, time to

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 23>change and things are different. Until we get that back,

0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 23>we can do everything we want with players with coaches,

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 23>won't It won't happen in two thousand and four when

0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 23>we won that flag and people argue with me about this,

0:39:58.160 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 23>and that's fine, they can.

0:39:58.920 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 22>Have an opinion.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 23>We were a team of champions because of the way

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 23>we played together. Matthew Primus he didn't make the Grand Final,

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 23>but we still won and we beat Brisbane who are

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 23>arguably one of the best teams of that that particular era.

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.839
<v Speaker 23>I just want to know we did it and Josh

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:16.280
<v Speaker 23>Frank's Stevens from there before.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.279
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I understand your point, boys to men. I

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 4>look at Brisbane last year that with the men when

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 4>they even Sidney looked on like boys on Grand Final day.

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 23>Absolutely, but even even treaders. You take your game from

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 23>that two thousand and four game. For example, you weren't

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 23>best on ground, but you did what you need to

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 23>do to lead your troops. And we don't have that

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 23>at Port out laid and I sympathize with the supporters

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.399
<v Speaker 23>that want to sack Kinkley and then a very worried

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:40.839
<v Speaker 23>about car coming in because of the fact that are

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 23>we still do we still believe those values, those values

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 23>that Boss Williams built, that that creed that the club

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:46.359
<v Speaker 23>was built on.

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Do we still have that? Oh?

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 4>I'll say, is I played with Josh Caron and how

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Josh car rolls He is instilled with those values. He's

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 4>the only bloke I know that took out Marke Raschudo

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 4>head to head and even route tiptoe over the edge

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 4>many times because Josh is a fierce competitor.

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know what next year will be. Next year

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 2>we need to focus on around look to.

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Something in what I like. I like you know what,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 3>And I'll give you an example. It's not football, it's cricket.

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Alan Border took over a rabble when Australia was probably

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 3>in one of its worst scenarios as far as cricket went.

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 3>When the retirements of Lily Chaplin, marsh happened and we

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.280
<v Speaker 3>fell into a hole. Kim Hughes was zacked as captain

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:35.239
<v Speaker 3>and Alan Border took over. The first thing he did

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 3>was in still this unbelievable grit and determination. Right, you

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 3>know what, You're not that good now, but we're going

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.479
<v Speaker 3>to fight our way to being good.

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>The thing they went on the eighty nine.

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 3>To two of the Ashes, which is his first as

0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 3>captain against England in England and he said, we are

0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 3>not going in their rooms. We are not chumming around

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:00.319
<v Speaker 3>until we've won this series. We're not having a beer

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:03.760
<v Speaker 3>with any of them. And he got the nickname Captain

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 3>Grumpy because of it from both of them because he

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't do it.

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 1>What did he do?

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.359
<v Speaker 3>He won the series? The wives and partners wanted to come.

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:13.799
<v Speaker 3>He said, you're not come until we've won.

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 2>There was all.

0:42:15.440 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Sorts of hohoha apparently over it. They're all outraged. A

0:42:18.560 --> 0:42:19.919
<v Speaker 1>statement of mindset. There was a.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Statement of mindset to say we're here to do a

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 3>job and we're going to be ruthless on it until

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 3>we get it done. I think that's where Joe's coming from,

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 3>and it certainly was the mentality when I went through

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 3>and I always say, I've spoken and at length with

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Bob Quinn who came from the thirties and the forties,

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:47.960
<v Speaker 3>to Foss Williams, who created a dynasty unmatched to a

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 3>John Cale, who's the only guy connected with fourteen flags?

0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Is you go on Mark.

0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Williams into the New Era, into the two thousand and

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 3>four premiership. All of those segments all have the same

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 3>ruthless mindset for success. And if if you want to

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 3>say that those principles aren't right, well then you're not

0:43:13.640 --> 0:43:14.080
<v Speaker 3>going to win.

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:17.879
<v Speaker 2>It's the boys and men mentality, isn't it.

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Really so, I'm an Allen Border fan. Yeah, well, said

0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:25.040
<v Speaker 1>tim Well said, should we give it? I mean it

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of flies in the face now celebrating mediocrity. We've

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>got some wards to give out. I was ready to

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.440
<v Speaker 1>run through a bridge. We've got some sponsors to that. Yeah,

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I was ready to run through a brick wall. Announced

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:41.560
<v Speaker 1>all rights. No, you're right, people who tried exactly right.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And we do say thanks to the great people at

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Beachwood Home's real custom home builders. They always enjoy success.

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Goal of the day. There's only what five six to

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>pick from? Really?

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I like the reality dummies.

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>Yep. That was good under pressure. All right, now this

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.359
<v Speaker 1>one mark of the day. Thanks and again real estate.

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:01.359
<v Speaker 1>If you're selling, they have buyers ready to go.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh do we take anyone? Take an aerial mark that

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:11.799
<v Speaker 2>we liked? To me, Wow, Rocky, I can't. I didn't

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>write him down because I don't remember anything.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Again, have hih stands?

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's kick a double mentioned next week?

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, we will world War two marks next week.

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:22.439
<v Speaker 1>How does that sound?

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Sounds good?

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 1>All right? Player of the game thanks to unique homes.

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I'll go three players. I thought they had a crack.

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Farrell was pretty solid off half back when it was

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 4>in there all the time. I thought Horn Francis never

0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 4>gave up and was Port's most influential mid even though

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 4>he's the fourth high disposed winner. Rosie topped it out

0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 4>at thirty five. He had twenty five seven clearances of

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 4>a goal with ties. Just we talk about what we're

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 4>talking about. Then he is easy in terms of just

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:53.439
<v Speaker 4>being an adult, like he's a young kid in terms

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 4>of apls. But he plays like a man. So he

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 4>got two votes. And I thought Jordan Sweet dominated the ruck.

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 4>We just didn't get any value out of it. So

0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 4>I thought he just kept having a crack on his position. Yep, yeah,

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.319
<v Speaker 4>I think he's probably the one, probably with the other

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 4>two would probably say, you know what, you probably won

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:09.760
<v Speaker 4>your position.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Good on you tread. It's plenty to talk about during

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:17.839
<v Speaker 1>the week, Timmy for more analysis. Yeah, you the week. Hey,

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>if you're feeling bad about the game, just imagine being

0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a bottle of scotch at Timmy's place tonight. That's the

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>only thing that's going to be more danger.

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be treated with much laugh. You

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 2>know what.

0:45:27.760 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 3>It's It's like one of those moments where you know, no,

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to stuck.

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 1>That's all laws, that's all from us. More than five

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<v Speaker 1>double fourteen tomorrow when the Crows take on the Saints

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<v Speaker 1>at Adelaide, I, Well, otherwise we'll catch you Monday's.

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<v Speaker 8>Fine double a's after the game.

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<v Speaker 10>fave double A