1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On scorn Leaves, Austrodia. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wader Paney Show. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, the Victorian government embroiled in a fresh 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 4: corruption scandal. Adam Crichton will be here to come in 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 4: the day's top headlines. The brilliant Douglas Murray will join 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 4: me shortly to discuss everything from the war in Ukraine 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 4: to Disney's work film Disaster, and later in the hour 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 4: we'll have the latest from the US, including the astonishing 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 4: rescue mission by Elon Musky's SpaceX that saw two stranded 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: astronauts returned safely to Earth and left He's losing It 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 4: features one of the all time greats from the lunatic 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 4: Asylum known as MSNBC. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 5: Stop the hammering out there? 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Who's got a hammer? Where is it? Where's the hammer? 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 6: Is it? 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: On the go up on the other floor. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 5: Somebody go up there and stop the hammering. Stop the hammer. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 4: But first Victorian Premier just To Allen and Police Minister 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: Anthony Carbines are at the center of serious corruption allegations 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 4: brought before Iback and the Statesmutsman by former Deputy Commissioner 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: Neil Pattison, who alleges he and dumb Chief Commissioner Shane 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 4: Patton were victims of an unlawful conspiracy. The Herald Sun 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 4: reports the central allegation in Patterson's complaint to IBAG is 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: that Premier Allen, Minister Carbines, the Department of Premier and 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: Cabinet Secretary Jeremy Mole, and Commissioner Rick Nugent conspired to 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 4: get rid of him and the Chief Commissioner because the 28 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: pair had given frank and fearless advice to the government 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: in a bit to protect the community. 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: Joining me now for more on this, the Senior Fellow 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: and Chief. 32 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 4: Economists at the Institute of Public Affairs, Adam Crichton. Adam, 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: we have a respected former deputy commissioner here accusing the Premier, 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: accusing the police minister of corruption and misconduct in public office. 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 7: Well, certainly, I think at the very least they're probably 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 7: victims of politics. 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 6: I would say. 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 7: I mean, it strikes me that there's rising crime in Victoria. 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 7: There's probably pressure on state labor from federal labor to 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 7: do something about it, and so sacking the commissioners probably 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 7: makes sense from a political point of view, But the 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 7: broader point here, and I think this is the one 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 7: that the Victorian public would be picking up on, is 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 7: that there's something dysfunctional with the police office here. 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 6: It's not functioning correctly. 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 7: The number of police in this state I just checked 47 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 7: is the most of any state per capita. Two hundred 48 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 7: and ninety eight per hundred thousand in Victoria and two 49 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 7: hundred and twelve per hundred thousand in South Wales for instance. 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 7: That's a very big difference. And yet crime here is 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 7: out of control. So something is going awfully wrong and 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 7: I think the state government needs to take control somehow. 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 6: And fix it. 54 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: And morale within the police force is very low. 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: You speak to officers, they don't have much faith in command. 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 4: And there's been accusations for several years now, particularly under Labor, 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: that the police force has become politicized. We saw that 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: throughout COVID, but it's also outside of the COVID era 59 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: where police have repeated messaging with Premier Andrews or Premier Allen, 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: and yet it hasn't saved the Chief Commissioner. 61 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: It seems if these allegations are accurate. 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 7: Look, certainly it's probably worth pointing out the bail laws 63 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 7: too that were relaxed here. I mean that would you 64 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 7: would think disheartened police officers if they're just arresting people 65 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 7: and then they get released again a few weeks later. 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 6: So that could explain some of the crime wave here. 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 7: But yeah, certainly things need to be done, things are 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 7: to change now. 69 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 4: Fresh polling from Redbridge has shown that voters believe that 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: Peter Dutton and the Coalition are best suited to manage 71 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 4: our relationship with China, but the figures hren't great for 72 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: either leader here. Twenty seven percent back Peter Dutton compared 73 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: to twenty five percent who believe Anthony Albanize in his 74 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: government are best placed to manage this relationship with China, 75 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: and fifteen percent say or they have little faith in 76 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: either le So I don't know how. 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: Much we learn from this, but it. 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 4: Is certainly an issue that is perhaps not a top 79 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: tier issue, but it's one that Australians still care about 80 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: a great deal. 81 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, look it should be a top tier issue. 82 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 7: I mean, in recent weeks we've seen these Chinese military 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 7: exercises just off the Australian coast. 84 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 6: That is somewhat concerning. 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 7: That should suggest that we need to spend more on 86 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 7: our defense and that's something at least I think that 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 7: the Coalition is at least talking about lifting our GDP 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 7: spending to two and a half percent of GDP. We 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 7: at the IPA think it should be three percent of 90 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 7: GDP because of the growing security threat. 91 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 6: But look the twenty seven. 92 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 7: Percent and twenty five percent that you just mentioned fairly similar. 93 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 6: I mean, if if they'd rung me up, I would. 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 7: Have said the Coalition probably because at least during COVID 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 7: they had the backbone to stand up to China and 96 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 7: ask about the origins of the virus. And I think 97 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 7: that was a good thing, and certainly it's been proven 98 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 7: correct in hindsight given what. 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 6: We know now. 100 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 4: Absolutely now, the International Olympic Committee has been forced to 101 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 4: grant the Queensland government a one year extension beyond its 102 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 4: usual seven year deadline for the in principal sports program 103 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: to be agreed upon because well, politicians continue to bick 104 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: out over the venue plans for the twenty thirty two 105 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 4: games in Brisbane that I had been blamed on adam 106 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 4: nearly four years of political procrastination by Labor Premiers Steven 107 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: Miles and Anastasia Palache, and it's been labeled as embarrassing 108 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 4: for Brisbane and for Australia. We really do we care 109 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: what the IOC think. 110 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 7: Well, look, you know they've had twelve hundred days up there. 111 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 7: I understand to work out this plan. That's a long 112 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 7: time and I think it's just a plan they want. 113 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 7: It's not actually the facilities, it's just a plan. Two 114 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 7: hundred days that is a lot. I think it is 115 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 7: embarrassing for Australia that the deadlines had to be tweaked. 116 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 6: I mean they still have a lot of time. What 117 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 6: if it's six years or something, seven years or something 118 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 6: like that. 119 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 7: But we've just had the embarrassment of the Conwealth Games 120 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 7: being asked in the city here in Melbourne, so we 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 7: don't want to see that again. So yeah, look they 122 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 7: just have to pull their finger out. That's the bottom line. 123 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 4: And in good news for Victorian taxpayers. Acting those games 124 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: I think still cost us about half a billion and 125 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: we're paying for is it Scotland to hold the game? 126 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 4: So we're paying for them. 127 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 7: Well, we've got one hundred and sixty billion of death 128 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,239 Speaker 7: here so that's nothing. 129 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know how they can hold it 130 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: for a few hundred million, but it was going to 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: cost billions to hold it here, so that's never been 132 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: adequately explained. Now I do love Housing Minister Clara O'Neill's 133 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: Instagram work. 134 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: She is prolific. 135 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 4: I don't know how she has time to look at 136 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: her portfolio because she is just churning out video after 137 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: video on TikTok on Instagram. It's all over the place. 138 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 4: And this next one is brief, but it's amounts to 139 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: essentially buying the votes of young people or anyone who's 140 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: got a hex step. Hey, guys, important message, don't forget 141 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: that flavor winds the election. 142 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: On the first of June, twenty percent of. 143 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: Your hex stet is going to disappear like that. 144 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: There you go. 145 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: She's doing videos in the car now. The last one 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 4: I showed earlier in the week she was in the laundry. 147 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: I don't know she had a cameraman in the cupboard 148 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: or she had some sort of tripod set up. 149 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: Very very creative work. But there you go. 150 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: Big discount off your hex stead, which obviously the taxpayer 151 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: is not going to get the money that you were 152 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: supposed to pay. So this is reminiscent of what the 153 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 4: Democrats we're doing in the US. 154 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 7: It's straight out of Joe Biden's playbook, and obviously that 155 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 7: did not work. I Mean, the first point from a 156 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 7: political point of view is these people are going to 157 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 7: vote labor anyway or green, so I don't even know 158 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 7: why they're trying to bribe them politically. 159 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 6: But it's also terrible policy. 160 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 7: I mean, we know study after study shows that people 161 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 7: go to university earn way more than everyone else, and 162 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 7: so why should they be subsidized through the tax system 163 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 7: by everyone else. I mean, the fees are already subsidized, 164 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 7: they're already low. And frankly, my personal view is we 165 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 7: have too many people at university. The fees should be higher, 166 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 7: so we get fewer going. 167 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: Well, we have so many junk degrees. This isded. There 168 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: used to be a time where. 169 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: You'd go to university and whatever course you did helped 170 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: you get a better job, and there was some method 171 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 4: to it all. Now you're getting these junk degrees, a 172 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 4: lot of the arts degrees, not just arts, and you 173 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: have a student saddled with debt, sold false hope. 174 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: The taxpayer picks up a huge bill. 175 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 6: And they've been brainwashed a book. 176 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they come out with green hair and just 177 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: very nutty ideas. But the Liberals are also joining in 178 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: on the social media campaigning. 179 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: Let's have a look at what they came up with. 180 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: This is doctor Katie Allen, the Liberal candidate for Chisholm 181 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: in Victoria. 182 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: I want to electrify the Ashpn pool. 183 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 8: That doesn't mean electrify. 184 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 4: The pool, it means electrify the gas pub And that's 185 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: because locals have told me they want action on climate change. 186 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: They want to create energy transition. And if we do electrification. 187 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 9: Of the gas pubs that heat the poor here at Ashburn, 188 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 9: that will help bring down about six hundred tons of the. 189 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: Mission each and every year. 190 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 7: What's not to like about that? 191 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: It's about a cleanage transition. 192 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 4: You know, I don't even know what to say. I 193 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: don't even know what to say. I mean, at least 194 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: Claire O'Neill's ad is probably going to get a few votes. 195 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: It's going to speak to people who personally care about that. 196 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: This what we're going to change the heating of the 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 4: pool from gas to electricity. People in the community are 198 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: in uproar about it. I don't think anyone in the 199 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: community has brought this up. I think a few activists 200 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: who seem to have the ear of liberal politicians, have 201 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 4: brought this up. 202 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: But I know that area well and I. 203 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 4: Would be shocked if it's even a top thirty issue. 204 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 7: Well, I just hope she reads the comments under the 205 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 7: Instagram post. As you could say, most people are saying, oh, 206 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 7: what on earth are you doing? But I mean the 207 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 7: particular swap she's suggesting is a microcosm of the whole 208 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 7: economy and just how absurdly expensive it is to be 209 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 7: swopping out gas for electricity in these large infrastructures. I 210 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 7: mean it costs an APPS fortune, yes, and that's even 211 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 7: if it's achievable, and it's not going to make any 212 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 7: difference to the climate whatsoever. And Australia is on track 213 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 7: to fail in its target since twenty thirty targets, So 214 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 7: it's all just totally pointless virtue signaling. 215 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: Pointless virtue signaling. We've got a perfectly. 216 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: Well functioning gas system heating the pool and we're going 217 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 4: to rip it out to a place of electricity when 218 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: this state is sitting on hundreds of years of gas 219 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 4: reserves it's estimated. So yeah, it's nappy stuffed. But that's 220 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: the Liberals for you. Sometimes in this state. Adam Kristen, 221 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: thank you for your time. Thanks joining me now is 222 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: one of the finest thinkers of his generation. Best selling 223 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: author Douglas Murray Douglas. Let's start in the Middle East, 224 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 4: where the fragile ceasefire in Gaza has been chattered Israeli 225 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: Prime Minister Benjamin Nettina, who has said the authorized the 226 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: renewal of military action against her mast after their failure 227 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 4: to release hostages or abide by the conditions of a 228 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 4: US proposal to extend the ceasefire. This military action has 229 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 4: been condemned by the likes of the Saudis, Qatar, Egypt, 230 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: a number of countries in the region, all very predictable, 231 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: But Douglas, Israel is also facing heavy criticism from France 232 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 4: and Ireland and a number of other European countries. 233 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: What do you make of that? 234 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: What do you make of this refusal to unders from 235 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 4: so many in the West to understand what Israel is 236 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: facing right now? 237 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Well, it's sort of part of the course. Unfortunately, Hamaz 238 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: has repeatedly broken its side of deals in the stage 239 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: one of the ceasefire agreement. We saw that, not least 240 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: in its obscene handover ceremonies of Israeli hostages, including its 241 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: obscene parading of the coffin of Israeli babies in front 242 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: of jubilant crowds in Gaza the other week. On top 243 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: of the war craft that Hamaz Is committed by abducting 244 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: and torturing and killing Israeli citizens, It's of course continued 245 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: to commit war crimes during this phase of the ceasefire deal. 246 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: Phase two of the ceasefire deal, by the way, has 247 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: always been a problem because it requires Hamaz to hand 248 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: over all the remaining hostages, as they should have done 249 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: on October the eighth, twenty twenty three, but it requires 250 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: them to do so and for Israeli troops to withdraw 251 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: completely from the Gaza. 252 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: Now. 253 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: The problem for that is, of course, is that Hamaz, 254 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: although it's been significantly degraded, is as we've seen from 255 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: these obscene handover ceremonies, not completely destroyed in Gaza, and 256 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: there is therefore a likelihood inevitability that Hamaz would continue 257 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: to rule or misgovern the Gaza, which is intolerable to 258 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: the Israelis because the Israelis had two stated war aims 259 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: from the beginning of this war to get back every 260 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: hostage stolen from their homes by Hamaz and two to 261 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: destroy Hamaz, and you just can't allow Hamas to remain 262 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: in power. The Israelis can't the various countries in the 263 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: region condemned. That is completely unsurprising. That's sort of what 264 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: they have to say, even as in some cases they're 265 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: urging Israel on the fact that France would criticize Israel 266 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: among other Western countries is also unsurprising. Sadly, it'll be 267 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: interesting to see next time France fights a war, when 268 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: it does, whether it holds its army to the kind 269 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: of accountability that the Israelis do theirs. My own observation 270 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: of French military action in the Cote Diuvoirs, in the 271 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: Middle East and elsewhere is that they do exactly what 272 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: they want and they don't listen to any international condemnation. So, 273 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, sad as it is to say, perhaps the 274 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: Israelis should ignore the French, just as French tend to 275 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: ignore the world. 276 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 3: That's good advice there. 277 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: I want to ask you about the Russian Ukraine war prisions. 278 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 4: Lensky we know has accepted the USP still and earlier 279 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: today the White House released details of President Trump's discussions 280 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 4: with Vladimir Putin Douglas. Trump is pushing the Russians to 281 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 4: agree to an unconditional cease fire, but so far Putin 282 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: is only ordered his military to adhere to a thirty 283 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 4: day cease fire on Ukraine's energy infrastructure. 284 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: Zelenski says he fears the Russians don't want an end 285 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 3: to this war. 286 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: Douglas, what do they have to gain by extending this 287 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: mutually disastrous conflict. 288 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: Well, what Russia has to gain is that they will 289 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: hope that Western support for Ukraine runs out or runs down, 290 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: and that they can slowly increment, whether or not during 291 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: this presidency of Trump's, or whether during a future presidency 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: continue their warrant to take over the whole of Ukraine 293 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: as they tried to do in twenty twenty two. I mean, 294 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: it's extremely hard with agreements with people like Putin, not 295 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: that there are that many, but we have quite a 296 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: number of dictators in the world now. As always, it's 297 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: hard to know what that word you can trust, because 298 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: the obvious thing is absolutely nothing. Zelenski is answerable not 299 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: just to Western political alliances that are supportive of him, 300 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: but it also of course has to be having the backing, 301 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: the support in the end of the Ukrainian public and 302 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: indeed the Ukrainian army who are fighting on whereas Putin 303 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: doesn't really have to have anyone's support. It's just himself 304 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: in his own view, along with a small number of 305 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: people who around him. And so then you know, you 306 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: have this sort of thing of well, what if Putin's 307 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: word can you trust? And I don't think anyone who's 308 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: ever dealt with him or ever seen the way he 309 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: deals would think that you can trust Putin very much. 310 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: The promise not to attack energy and other infrastructure is 311 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: not a very useful promise from Vladimir Putin, given it 312 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: that it's one he's given only within recent weeks and 313 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: promptably done exactly what he said he wouldn't do. He 314 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: gave another assurance some time ago that the Russians would 315 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: not attack Ukrainian energy infrastructure, and then the next night 316 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: it actually, whilst I was there, they did exactly that. 317 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: So it's extremely hard. President Trump is trying to negotiate 318 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: a final piece, and I think should be admired acknowledged 319 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: for doing so. But it's an extremely difficult deal to 320 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: pull off, and we'll see. 321 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: It is extremely difficult to pullow. 322 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: As you've explained to the UK, You've written about this issue, 323 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 4: the attacks on free speech, free expression. The Starma government 324 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 4: there wants a working definition of the term islam of phobia. 325 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 4: I could help them with that, but I don't think 326 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 4: they're going to like my suggestion. You've argued that islamophobia 327 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: laws are just censorship, another attempt to invent special rights 328 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: for just one faith group. What do you say to 329 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 4: those who argue Britain's Muslims need further protection. 330 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's pretty outrageous for lots of reasons. 331 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: I mean, one of them is that British Muslims have 332 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: the same protection as any other citizen in the United Kingdom. 333 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to harass or attack or attack pieces 334 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: of worship or buildings or anything else. And those laws 335 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: exist for everybody of any faith none. And the problem 336 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: about this attempt by the Labor government, with a really 337 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: disastrous former Conservative MP leading it to set up this 338 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: commission that's going to tie to identify so called Islamophobia, 339 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: is among other things, is simply not going to work. 340 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: Nobody's ever been able to satisfactorily define Islamophobia because it's 341 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: almost impossible. In fact, it is impossible to draw a 342 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: line between you know, well, among other things, to allow 343 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: it to remain legal to say anything critical of the 344 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: religion of Islam, or anything that seems to offend any 345 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: large Muslim group or indeed any individual Muslim. I mean, 346 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: when people in the UK, as in other Western countries 347 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 1: start talking about his Lamophobia laws, among other things, I 348 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: really want them to answer the question of why it 349 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: is they are so obsessed with this non issue of 350 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: defining an absolute and definable term, and why they don't 351 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: spend more time, for instance, instead of talking about this 352 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: fake phobia talking about I don't know, the school teacher 353 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: in Backley in the North of England who remains in 354 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: hiding several years after he was accused of blasphemy by 355 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: local Muslim leaders in the North of England for talking 356 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: about cartoons of Islam's founder Muhammad. I mean, I wouldn't 357 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: mind if the government was looking into Backley Grammar School 358 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: a phobia for its teachers, or the many other things. 359 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: And how about the I mean, what about looking into 360 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: why one of our MP's David Amis, was slaughtered by 361 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: a jihadist. A couple of years ago when he was 362 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: meeting constituents. I mean, are there more protections that the 363 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: rest of the population can have against people driving cars 364 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: into crowd, shouting alo akba and so on. Are we 365 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: allowed to talk about the intimidation of journalists, writers and 366 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: others across Europe and citizens, teachers, all sorts of people 367 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: or are we just going to always have this pandering 368 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: to a small community that makes itself extremely vocal and unfortunately, 369 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: as I said in that piece in the Telegraph, has 370 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: this tendency to say, instead of we are ourselves going 371 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: to separate out the extremists in our faith from everyone else, 372 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: instead of doing that, say how can we better protect 373 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: our faith from any external criticism? I think this is 374 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: a disastrous to go down and I'm afraid that the 375 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: government will discover that in due course. 376 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 4: Well, it seems to be all about submission here. It's 377 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 4: pandering and it doesn't end in a good place. I 378 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: can tell you that from someone who escaped in Islamist country. 379 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 4: The pandering leads just to more demands and yeah, and 380 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 4: it's bizarre at a time when we've had this explosion 381 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: in anti semitism in the UK that there's so much 382 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 4: focus on his homophobia, so perhaps I don't know, look 383 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 4: at where some of that anti semitism comes from. 384 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: Right absolutely, I mean this is this is one of 385 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: the things is if you identify, for instance, the fact 386 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that significant numbers of Islamic hate preachers have a mosques 387 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: up and down the countries since October seventh preached the 388 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: most rancid hatred of Jews and encouraged and here we 389 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: get into the real bit that should be illegal, and 390 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: she encouraged the violence of terrorists groups like Hanaz. Where 391 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: do you what says? Do you get to when even 392 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: highlighting that which isn't highlight enough could, instead of being 393 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: a legitimate complaint about extremists in a minority faith group 394 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: be said itself to be a thought crime or a 395 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: hate crime. They will never wail to work this out, 396 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: these self appointed phologians, like these idiots and the British 397 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: government and the former idiot conservative MP. They'll never be 398 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: able to do it, and they will never be able 399 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: to draw as final line as they think they can, 400 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: because such a line does not exist. 401 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 4: Well said, Now, let's talk about something a little bit 402 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 4: more frivolous tonight. We have the Melbourne premiere or preview 403 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: of Snow White, Disney's latest version of the classic fairy tale, 404 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: but it's a woke reimagining and Douglas, who wrote in 405 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: The New York Post that Disney's seems to be quietly 406 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 4: terrified of how this project will fare, so much so 407 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 4: that they are pretty much hiding the star of the movie, 408 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: Rachel Zegler. 409 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: And if you want, you'll understand why. 410 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 10: The original cartoon came out in nineteen thirty seven, and 411 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 10: very evidently so. There is a big focus on her 412 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 10: love story with a guy who literally stalks her. 413 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 6: Weird. 414 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 10: Weird, So we didn't do that this time. 415 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Douglas. 416 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: This remake is reportedly to have cost more than two 417 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: hundred million, and Disney seemed too scared to properly promote 418 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 4: this movie. 419 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: It's quite Disney has had a terrible run a bit 420 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: because it's still as a studio trying to pump out 421 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: the sort of material which might have been briefly thought 422 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: to be a good idea in I don't know, the 423 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: summer of twenty twenty, but really looks horribly dated and 424 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: actually misreading situation now. I mean, you know, I think 425 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: I've said to you before reading. But in general, when 426 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: they do these remakes and they're done by people who 427 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: hate the original, know the snow White just has to 428 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: be the woman she knows she can be and the 429 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: leader she relieves she can be. Maybe you should just 430 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: invent a different story and call it something different. And 431 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: Disney seemed to know that they've got another stinker of 432 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: a movie here. I might be wrong, but they seem 433 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: to know, rather like they're pretty woke remake of Peter 434 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: Pan a couple of years ago that bombed at the 435 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: box office. Disney clearly know that they've got to silence 436 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: their star, and that's why last week, the huge launch 437 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: of the film was in the middle of nowhere in Spain, 438 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: at a castle that was said to have inspired the 439 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: original cartoon. The castle in question is far away from 440 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: most people. About one hundred people were invited, which you 441 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: can't say is the average sort of movie premiere set 442 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: up I mentioned in my post column. But as well 443 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: as sending her to a far castle, you can't help 444 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: thinking that Disney's executives must have been wishing they could 445 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: also give the start a poisoned apple that would set 446 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: her to sleep for many years, since she didn't appear 447 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: in front of the world press again anytime soon, and 448 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: diminish the movie she's meant to be promoting. 449 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sure they have market tested the reaction to 450 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 4: Rachel Ziglara and found it to be enormously negative, So 451 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 4: we were going. 452 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: To understand why they try to hide her. But you 453 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 3: are so right. 454 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 4: If you want to have this empowering story about a 455 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: woman who doesn't need a prince to save her, it's 456 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: all about her career and finding herself whatever, write a 457 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: new story. Why do you want to trade off the 458 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: snow white title and then completely change the story that 459 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 4: people have loved for generations. Douglas Murray, you and I 460 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: need to get into Hollywood and just straighten that place out. 461 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 3: Thank you for your time tonight. 462 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, Stelta Come. 463 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: Lefty's Losing ad class. The latest from the US, including the. 464 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 4: Astonishing rescue mission by Elon Lusks' SpaceX me Horowitz is 465 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 4: up next. You're watching the Reader Panney Show, and it's 466 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 4: time for Lefties Losing It and brace yourselves. I have 467 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: an all time great Lefties Losing It clip coming up shortly, 468 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: But first we've seen actor and Lefty Losing It regular 469 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 4: Alec Baldwin have multiple Trump induced meltdowns. We've mocked his 470 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 4: antics repeatedly on this segment, but even I felt a 471 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 4: little bit sorry for him watching this next clip. 472 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: Watch how this lefty. 473 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: Wife, Hilaria who identifies as Latin but she's actually not Latin. 474 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 4: Listen to how she speaks to Alec, her husband. 475 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: This is rough, folks. Winner, God, when I'm talking, you're 476 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: not talking. No, when I'm talking, you're not talking. This 477 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 3: is why. 478 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 11: Yes, well, Ha's like just cut him out of the show. 479 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: Is great, you're a winner. 480 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, when I'm talking, you're not talking. No, 481 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: when I'm talking, you're not talking. Oh look at that. 482 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: Look to cam Rights looks a little bit haunted. 483 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: If that's how she talks to him on the red 484 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: carpet in front of the media, imagine what's happening behind 485 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: closed doors. And no wonder he's losing it on a 486 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: regular basis. Now to geriatric democrat Chuck Schumer, who appeared 487 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: on the View where his levels of lefty lunacy intensified 488 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 4: further to a point where he mocked those who want 489 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 4: to keep more of the money they've earned. He mocked 490 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 4: those who want to see a reduction in taxes and 491 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 4: red tape. Watch this and you'll understand perfectly why the Democrats, 492 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: Well they're pretty much unelectable, with an approval rating sitting 493 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 4: at twenty nine percent. 494 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 12: And you know what their attitude is, I made my 495 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 12: money all by myself. How dare your government take my 496 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 12: money from me? Don't want to pay taxes? Or I 497 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 12: built my company with my bare hands. How dare your 498 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 12: government tell me how I should treat my customers, the 499 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 12: land and water that I own, or my employees. They 500 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 12: hate government. Government's a barrier to people, a barrier to 501 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 12: stop them from doing things. They want to destroy it. 502 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 12: We are not letting them do it, and we're united. 503 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: They think they own you. 504 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 4: They think you wanting to keep more of your own 505 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 4: money is somehow selfish, but they taking a chunk of 506 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 4: your wages to waste on LGBTQ activism is I don't 507 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: know righteous to CNN now, where the hosts ask this 508 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: imbecellic question suggesting Tesla dealerships being five bombed and Tesla 509 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: is being vandalized is just a form of resistance. Indeed, 510 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 4: she wonders whether this is what resistance should. 511 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 3: Look like like? 512 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 8: If you are attacking tesla's or dealerships, going beyond vandalism, 513 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 8: that that could be an act domestic terrorism. But I 514 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 8: do want to ask about this as resistance. Is this 515 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 8: what resistance should look like? 516 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 3: Talking about CNN? 517 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: Here is former anchor and sufferable hysteric Don Lemon, and 518 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: is that reminiscing here about CNN's golden age during the 519 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: COVID era. 520 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 13: The highest point of CNN was during COVID and we 521 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 13: had COVID and George Floyd at the same time and 522 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 13: Donald Trump, and that was the height. That was the 523 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 13: highest ratings, the most profitable of CNN, And so it 524 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 13: was amazing to be there. People watched every night and 525 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 13: they sort of relied on us because you were stuck. 526 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: Sounds like torture, stuck at home listening to fact free 527 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 4: propaganda from CNN about COVID, BLM and Trump. Gosh, now 528 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 4: this may be the cringest clip of the week. Watch 529 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: this man and I used the word man loosely here. 530 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: This lefty thought it was a good idea to film 531 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: this and post it online. 532 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: I've got to say, bless these clowns, because if they 533 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 4: didn't do this, if they didn't volunteer this content. 534 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: This segment wouldn't exist. 535 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: Oh, I just love that the slow motion, the looks 536 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: to camera. That's a real life David Brent right there. 537 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: I'm sure that clip is going to terrify megatypes everywhere. 538 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: Now to more toxic masculinity, this time from MSNBC and 539 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: Kat Lawrence O'Donnell, who goes on a frankly ludicrous and 540 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: xenophobic grant about Elon Musk. 541 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: The bigotry here is eye opening. 542 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 14: Elon Musk does not understand the country where he now lives. 543 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 14: Elon Musk would fail by a wide margin a high 544 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 14: school ap American history test. He grew up in white 545 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 14: South Africa, going to a segregated elementary school in high 546 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 14: school where he learned nothing about American history, American law, 547 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 14: American free enterprise. Elon Musk is such a bad salesman 548 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 14: that he was stupid enough today today to bring even 549 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 14: more attention to the latest disturbing challenges the Tesla owners 550 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 14: are facing, thanks entirely to Elon Musk. 551 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, the world's richest man, a genius who just engineered 552 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 4: the return of stranded astronauts from space, is just a 553 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: dummy who doesn't even understand business. 554 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: Well done, Lawrence. Just brilliant analysis there from you. 555 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 4: You know, I think I liked you better when you 556 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 4: were having meltdowns about hammers. 557 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: This is an all time great clip. Guys, enjoy Stop 558 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 3: the hammering. 559 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 5: Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering out there? 560 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: Who's got a hammer? Where is it? Where's the hammer? 561 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 6: Is it? 562 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: On? 563 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 5: The go up on the other floor. Somebody go up 564 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 5: there and stop the hammering. Stop the hammering. I'll go 565 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 5: down to the for myself and stop and keep the 566 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: commercial break going. Call Phil Griffin. I don't care who 567 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 5: the fuck you have to call. Stop the hammering. Empty 568 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 5: out the control room and find out where this is 569 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 5: going on. It's either there or there or out there somewhere. 570 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 3: That will never not be funny. 571 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: It's there there, It could be all over around there. 572 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 4: Did they ever find out who was behind the hammering? 573 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 3: Now? This next story is astonishing. 574 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 4: It's so big that I think I'm going to start 575 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 4: a new segment called the Golden Age. 576 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: We'll start it next. 577 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: Week because we are at the start of a golden 578 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: age in America. Earlier today, to NASA astronauts who were 579 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: stranded in space for more than nine months. 580 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: That were supposed to be there just for a week. 581 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: And it wasn't NASA that rescued them today, it was 582 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: Elon Musk's space X. It was audacious, it was high stakes, 583 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: it was magnificence. Let's first hear from the astronauts why 584 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: they were still in space. 585 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 6: Here. 586 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: They thank Elon Musk and Donald Trump for the rescue mission. 587 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 7: We're coming back before long, so you know, don't make 588 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 7: all those plans without me. 589 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 11: I can tell you at the outset we have all 590 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 11: of us have the utmost respect for mister Musk, and 591 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 11: obviously respect and admiration for our President of the United States, 592 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 11: Donald Trump. We appreciate them, We appreciate all that they 593 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 11: do for us or human space flight for our nation. 594 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 4: And earlier today the rescue mission was completed successfully. The 595 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 4: astronauts returned to Earth safely, landing in the Gulf of 596 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: America of Tallahassee, Florida. 597 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 7: And splashdown Crew nine back on Earth. 598 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: Copy slash down, We see mein shoots cut nixt Alex 599 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: Butch Sonny On behalf of SpaceX. Welcome home, Welcome home. 600 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: Indeed, let's bring in journalists and filmmaker Army Horowitz Army. 601 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 4: This was an incredible mission to have these two astronauts, 602 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: Barry Butch Wilmore and Sonny Williams return home safely. It's 603 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: a triumph for SpaceX, It's a triumph for the Trump 604 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: administration and for America. 605 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 15: Yeah, no question. And can someone get that woman a 606 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 15: hair tie please? I've been seeing her for a year 607 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 15: with her hair up like that. Like, I can't start 608 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 15: thinking about that. Laura's or Donald Cliff, Oh my god, 609 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 15: we need more cow bells. Oh, it's I can think about. Look, 610 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 15: you know SpaceX right versus NASA. I mean, the numbers are. 611 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 2: So stark, it's unbelievable. 612 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 15: SpaceX is ten times faster and twice as cheap as NASA. 613 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 15: SpaceX has one percent overruns on their projects. 614 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: NASA has ninety percent. 615 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 15: Okay, and they keep banging on Elon Musk. This is 616 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 15: the man who created three industries, not three companies, three industries, 617 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 15: and not like three like cottage industries, electronic payments, electric cars, 618 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 15: private space industry. This is the guy worked on He 619 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 15: might be the most accomplished man in human history, Yet 620 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 15: they don't want him running a department in the government. 621 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: This is what the problem is with Democrats reader. 622 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 3: It is, and it just occurred to me. 623 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 4: This entire mission just tells you so much about Biden's 624 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 4: America compared to Trump's America. All that costs and expenditure, 625 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: with NASA sending to these two astronauts for a week, 626 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 4: having them stressed for close to ten months, Biden administration 627 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: refusing Elon Musk's help to bring them back earlier because 628 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 4: they thought it would be a boost for Elon Musk 629 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 4: and Trump if it happened during the election campaign. So 630 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 4: it just speaks of the big bureaucracy, waste, inefficiency, in competence. 631 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 3: And you would think Elon Musk. 632 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 4: With this achievement and then the others you noted, would 633 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: be a hero. But among the left he is as 634 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 4: hated as Donald Trump. These days, they're attacking Tesla dealerships, 635 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 4: they're vandalizing random tesla's. Trump is calling these attacks a 636 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,280 Speaker 4: form of domestic terrorism. 637 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 11: Do you consider this an act of dynastic I think, sir, Why, 638 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 11: I think that if and when they catch the people, 639 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 11: and I hope they do. 640 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 16: The good thing is they have a lot of cameras 641 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 16: in those places, and they've got some already having to 642 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 16: do with that I think that you will find out 643 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 16: that they're paid by people that are very highly political 644 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,919 Speaker 16: on the left army. 645 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 4: The New York Post reports and t Tesla protests, some 646 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 4: of them are being fueled by a Democratic mega Dona, 647 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 4: whose ex husband is one of their mask's closest pals. 648 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 3: So that sounds a little bit personal. 649 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 4: But I'm not suggesting she's behind any of these five 650 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 4: bombings or acts of vandalism. But the destruction and the 651 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 4: activism that's turned into violenca is quite disturbing and almost 652 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 4: reminiscent of what we saw during that Summer of Love 653 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 4: with the BLM riots. 654 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 15: Yeah, it is disturbing, and we're gonna see a lot 655 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 15: more of it, unfortunately. Look, the Democrats, there's such two 656 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 15: faced hypocrites. It really makes me sick, right, Haiti Elon Musk. 657 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 2: But they love their billionaires. 658 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 15: They love their Jeff Bezos and George Soros and Jbi 659 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 15: Prisker and Tom Steiers and I. 660 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: Can go on and on. 661 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 15: Their list of billionaires is long, maybe longer than the 662 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 15: Republicans list. 663 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're going after yeah, and they're going out 664 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: for Elon Musk. 665 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 15: Look, the President used that term domestic terrorism very specifically right, 666 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 15: because while there's no actual federal crime for domestic terrorism, 667 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 15: thirty three out of the fifty states, in fact, do 668 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 15: have it listed as a certain crime. 669 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 2: And what you're gonna find is you're gonna get a. 670 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 15: Hefty, hefty sentence if you're convicted under that for the same, 671 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 15: essentially the same. 672 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: Offense you're burning a car. 673 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 15: You know, just on the street. Normally you might get 674 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 15: a few months in prison. 675 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 2: Burn a car because you're trying to make a. 676 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 15: Political statement and scare people and create terror in your community. 677 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: You might get ten years to life. 678 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 15: So they're using that very specifically, and I'm all for it, 679 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,919 Speaker 15: and I think if yeah, the BLM riots, those are 680 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 15: all frankly, even on the right, I want to see 681 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,839 Speaker 15: all if you're committing acts of terror, I don't care 682 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 15: if you're from from a jiehattist in the Middle East 683 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 15: or you're in the United States, you will pay the price. 684 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 15: And I expect them that to happen to. 685 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 2: These people now. 686 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom has ambitions to be resident, but the California 687 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 4: governor's reckless economic mismanagement is causing more problems for his homestate. 688 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,840 Speaker 4: He's now asking for an additional two point eight billion 689 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 4: because California's health system has been overwhelmed by illegal immigrants. Army, 690 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: how can you have his handout for more funding when 691 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: this problem is entirely self inflicted. 692 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unbelievable. 693 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 15: Look why the Democrats want to spend money, you know, 694 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 15: ultimately what they're looking to create a class of people 695 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 15: dependent on the government, who will be an underclass who 696 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 15: will always vote Democratic. It's political power, pure and simple. 697 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: It's disgusting. Okay, California. I think a lot of people 698 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: don't realize. 699 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 15: Last year California pastor Law saying that medical which is 700 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 15: the state Medicare system, will cover illegal immigrants. This is 701 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 15: causing the California taxpayer ten billion do extra a year. Right, 702 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 15: what's a billion here and a billionaire between friends? Right, 703 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 15: soon enough, we'll talking about real money. And the dirty secret, 704 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 15: by the way, is this not only costing California taxpayers 705 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,960 Speaker 15: is actually caught it. It's actually costing federal taxpayers because 706 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 15: of this loophole in federal reimbursement for medical So good luck, 707 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 15: by the way, continuing to try to pass this burden 708 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 15: off the federal taxpayer. With Donald Trump in office and 709 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 15: the Republicans controlling the House and the Senate. I think 710 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 15: they're gonna find a way to close this loophole very soon. 711 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 15: In California, you're gonna be having to carry this burden 712 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 15: all on your own. Now, this is a warning for Democrats. 713 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 15: I know you're gonna think I'm crazy. You're gonna think 714 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 15: I'm unhinged. Wan I tell you this, California is not 715 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 15: lost to the Republicans. 716 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: Okay, this is not This is the way the political 717 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 2: system works. 718 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 15: It ebbs and it flows, and sometimes ebbs and flows 719 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 15: over periods of decades. It truly does. But it can 720 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 15: turn around, and I think you're gonna push it to 721 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 15: a where California voters are gonna say, enough, we cannot 722 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 15: stand this anymore. Okay, and a war should event may 723 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 15: in fact be the thirty billion dollars, maybe up to 724 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 15: fifty billion dollars that California taxpayers are gonna have to 725 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 15: pay for the California wildfires because of democratic and competence. 726 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,439 Speaker 15: Layered that with all these other budget shortfalls that we're 727 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 15: talking about, I think you're going to find that the 728 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 15: Democrats not only have a massive problem nationally, but in 729 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 15: California and other states as well. 730 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 4: Either a genius who's picking up a trend before anybody else, 731 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 4: or I'm going to say you're crazy, because California is lost. 732 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 3: In my mind, it's a one party state at. 733 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: The Barbado the former. 734 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's the demographic changes there have been stuck 735 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 4: and I do wonder whether it could ever be a 736 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 4: republic can state again, given how the demographics have changed. 737 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 3: But you know what, we'll. 738 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: Wait and see, and if you've called it, I will 739 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: acknowledge your brilliance. Just on Gavin uism quickly, who is 740 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 4: the next leader of the Democrats? They seem to be 741 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 4: completely ruddless now, the suggestions that AOC is a potential leader, 742 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 4: I mean that would be mad. But you've got political 743 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 4: pundits even saying that you seem to have the most extreme, 744 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 4: loudest voices who are setting the agenda right now? Who 745 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: do you see as the next leader who could be 746 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 4: a likely presidential candidate for them? 747 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 15: Look, actually, it at poor surveying Democrats and who they 748 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 15: support for the next leader. 749 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 2: And you said AOC. 750 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 15: I think you said the kind of almost tongue in cheek, 751 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 15: But she's the leader in the compouse right now. She 752 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 15: had the largest pre Senate share of Let's not forget 753 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 15: by the way, you know how crazy the Democrats are. 754 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 15: Biden one denomination and became resident ultimately, but he was 755 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 15: losing to Bernie Sanders. 756 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: He was going to lose to Bernie. 757 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 7: Said. 758 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 15: He only won because a single congress person influential in 759 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 15: South Carolina decided to back him publicly, and that changed 760 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 15: the tide for Biden. 761 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 2: Otherwise we would have. 762 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 15: Had Comrade Bernie as the head of the Democratic Party, 763 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 15: so it was not so crazy. I think these crazy 764 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,959 Speaker 15: leftists are going to take over the Democratic Party. They've 765 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 15: already won the theology of the party, no question about that, 766 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 15: So why shouldn't they have political power as well. 767 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 4: President Alexandria Acasia Cortez, I can't wait to say that 768 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 4: it's never going to happen. 769 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 3: Americans will never be. 770 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 4: That crazy ever, Amy Horowitz, that give you your time 771 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: to die. Always a player still to come close to 772 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 4: remove a Pride program from the Victorian public libraries. 773 00:43:52,600 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 3: Ben mccartha Joints welcome back. 774 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 4: Joining me now is the Victorian Shadow Minister for Scrutiny 775 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 4: of Government, Bev MacArthur. 776 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 3: Bev. 777 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 4: We open tonight's program with the explosive corruption allegations involving 778 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 4: premierges Into Allen and the Police Minister. Do you believe 779 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 4: Police Commissioner Shane Patton and Deputy Commissioner Neil Patterson were 780 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 4: sacked because they were honest about the crime crisis in 781 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: this state? 782 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 9: Well, Rita, these are very serious, unprecedented allegations that must 783 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 9: be investigated fully. 784 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: The government clearly. 785 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 9: Has a lot of questions to answer, and it's unheard 786 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 9: of that such senior former major public servants would launch 787 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 9: this pace against the government. So the government really has 788 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 9: to come to groups with exactly what they did do. 789 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,160 Speaker 9: And you know the fact that these two gentlemen have 790 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 9: gone to ieback is unbelievable. 791 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 4: Do you have faith that the process in IBACK is 792 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 4: going to uncover precisely what happened and with a collusion 793 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 4: corruption took place here? 794 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 9: Well, Rita, we don't have a lot of choice. We 795 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 9: have to hope that IBACK does its job properly, fairly, openly, transparently, 796 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 9: and of course that's what we'll be calling for. These 797 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 9: allegations have to be very thoroughly investigated and we don't 798 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 9: need any coat inquiry type activities where I don't recall, 799 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 9: I don't remember, I don't do email. 800 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 4: Well, this is the fear that these inquiries and investigations 801 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 4: in Victoria don't often amount too much, and we really 802 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 4: don't have a fuller picture of precisely what happened. We'll 803 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 4: let this process play out, but certainly crime is a 804 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 4: huge issue in this state. What is the Liberal party approach, 805 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 4: because we know where the Labor stands on this issue, 806 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 4: that have recently pledged to reform and get tougher on crime, 807 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:17,200 Speaker 4: but we have seen under Labor just an explosion in 808 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 4: crimes like home invasions, car jackings, and so many people 809 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 4: no longer feel safe in their own homespav. 810 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 9: Well exactly, and today or maybe today, but tomorrow definitely 811 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 9: in the Upper House we'll be debating their so called 812 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 9: tough bail laws. I think these are the bail laws 813 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 9: you bring in when you don't want to really bring 814 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 9: in the bail laws because they're not really tough. But 815 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 9: certainly the Coalition has put up numerous proposals to ensure 816 00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 9: that Victorians are safe and the bail is only given 817 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 9: at the first instance, So this government's not serious about this. 818 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 9: These bail laws won't even come into effect quite sometimes, 819 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 9: so they're not tough. They could be much better, and 820 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 9: we've tried to make them better. We'll try and amend 821 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 9: them to make sure it is better, but this government's 822 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 9: not serious. 823 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 4: Now, before you go, BEV, you've established a petition to 824 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 4: end the rollout of the Rainbow Libraries Toolkit in Victorian 825 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 4: State libraries. This is a Labor Party initiative that provides 826 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,280 Speaker 4: all sorts of guidance and instructions to library staff. 827 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 3: Tell me why you're opposing this program. 828 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 9: Well, last year it was put to me by a 829 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 9: number of people that they were very concerned about libraries 830 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 9: which come under my portfolio. Basically because I'm also the 831 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 9: shadow mians of the local government and local governments largely 832 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 9: control libraries. This propose all was being rolled out. Now 833 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,279 Speaker 9: it's curious as to why it's even needed, because you know, 834 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 9: a library's not a welcoming safe place already. Librarians and 835 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 9: parents who take their children, they're not capable of ensuring 836 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,399 Speaker 9: everybody is welcomed and treated properly. It's sort of rather 837 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 9: disingenuous to suggest the librarians and need some sort of indoctrination. 838 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 9: And so anyway, a constituent author a petition which I 839 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 9: happily sponsored. And in our system of democracy here in Victoria, 840 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 9: such as it is, if over two thousand people physically 841 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 9: sign a petition, it triggers a further debate in the Parliamentally, 842 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 9: five thousand people physically signed a petition calling on this 843 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 9: toolkit to be set aside. I don't think libraries need 844 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 9: to be places of indoctrination. Maybe the money would be 845 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 9: better spent on making sure all our children could read, 846 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 9: write and add up, and the libraries could be places 847 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 9: of quiet reflection, not indoctrination. 848 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 4: Well, what a concept that would be wonderful, the children 849 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 4: reading and writing properly and libraries being stripped of political activism. 850 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 3: That is a fantastic planning. You're right, I had a 851 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 3: good look at this toolkit. 852 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:34,319 Speaker 4: It is just radical LGBTQ activism masquerading as an inclusive 853 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 4: program when it's actually fairly confronting I would say for 854 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 4: the majority of the population. 855 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 3: Bevan MacArthur, always a pleasure. Thanks for your time tonight. 856 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 9: Thanks Reta. 857 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 3: That's it from me. 858 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 4: Up Next is Newsnight. 859 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow. Good night,