WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 27 August

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Paul Murray Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a mate where I fired up? I need four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got one, so I'm not going to waste your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Massive one on the Telly Tonight, the great Nigel Ferras

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<v Speaker 1>joins us exclusively only placed on AZI TV. You see

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<v Speaker 1>him is here on a Tuesday night. He's up in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Wait till I show you the latest example

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<v Speaker 1>of each way outbot this one? Dare I say his goal?

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<v Speaker 1>And the lady who absolutely snuffed out Kamala Harris's chance

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<v Speaker 1>of actually being the president four years ago is now

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<v Speaker 1>all in on Trump. Plus, there is an awful lot

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<v Speaker 1>today of intentional distractions trying to blow the media off course,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of that has worked today. It won't work tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>It won't work here, It will not work with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Latest opinion poll today printed in the Turbul Times shows

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<v Speaker 1>us fifty two percent of Australians believe the country is

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<v Speaker 1>headed in the wrong direction. This is a near record high.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our after gost of living being the absolute

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<v Speaker 1>front and center attention this year, last year, the year before, when,

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<v Speaker 1>of course we all know it isn't it wasn't their

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<v Speaker 1>own basic low road politics is where they are. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I say much of the media today, if they

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<v Speaker 1>fell for the distraction I mentioned last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Leadership, which is destructive and divisive, is not really leadership

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<v Speaker 3>at all.

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<v Speaker 4>And that brings me to Peter Dutty.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the most divisive leader of a major political

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<v Speaker 3>party in Australia's modern history. He divides deliberately his divisiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>He picks fights and stokes revision.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've heard everyone else. I'm not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>distracted by this. The reality of Australia and the leader

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<v Speaker 1>that they have turned on is not Peter Dutton, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Abneasy. Same poll from the freaking Guardian. It shows

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<v Speaker 1>that the disapproval level of this Prime minister in the

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<v Speaker 1>past twelve and a bit months has now hit fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty two percent of the country say we're headed in

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong direction. Fifty percent of people say they disapprove

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<v Speaker 1>of the Prime Minister's leadership, fifty one percent in the

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<v Speaker 1>Channel nine newspapers. Meantime, Peter Dutton, here's the facts. Now

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<v Speaker 1>one brings this stuff to you. Do though, they all

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<v Speaker 1>just fall for whatever the daily distraction is. Well, now

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<v Speaker 1>more people approve than disapprove of Peter Dutton's leadership. This

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<v Speaker 1>is in a poll in the Guardian. It shows forty

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<v Speaker 1>two percent approve forty one percent disapproval. More importantly, put

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<v Speaker 1>the two side by side, there's a nine point difference

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<v Speaker 1>in disapproval. The Prime Minister is the one leading. Now. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a look here about the don't know factor,

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<v Speaker 1>Australians are making up their mind hard and fast, Aban

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Abernezi, just ten percent of people say they do

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<v Speaker 1>not have an opinion about whether it is positive or

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<v Speaker 1>negative or right now he is losing by a massive

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<v Speaker 1>margin and already half of the country. So even if

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<v Speaker 1>this ten percent swings in, well guess what, it would

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<v Speaker 1>still be a negative territory. The same is not the

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<v Speaker 1>case for Peter Dutton. He still has sixteen percent of

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<v Speaker 1>people who have not had his leadership defined or they

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<v Speaker 1>have not come to a conclusion about whether it's positive

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<v Speaker 1>or negative. Now, this stuff is huge because remember what

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<v Speaker 1>were we told for day after day after day, The

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<v Speaker 1>same people who all fell for the distraction Today, not

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Chalmers talking about the economy, not talking about cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living, not talking about insurance, not talking about twelve

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<v Speaker 1>interest rate rises. The reality is for the past two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks there was one debate in the country and we

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<v Speaker 1>were told it was toxic.

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<v Speaker 3>And as we saw last week in the Parliament, his

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<v Speaker 3>dog we saw only plays we hurt you.

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<v Speaker 5>In silence and you can hear me in silence.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop being raped again. These people creating carbon emissions by

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<v Speaker 1>the moment as they blow it out their backside. Because

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<v Speaker 1>have a look at this, same pole, same organization. Forty

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<v Speaker 1>four percent of people agree with Dutton's position when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the pause, but more importantly, the increase vetting

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<v Speaker 1>about people out of GASA. The alternative is thirty That

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<v Speaker 1>clearly is a big win. Now, by the way, when

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<v Speaker 1>you start looking at this, this is not one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where young people are that they say let

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in and older people say shut the game. Have

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<v Speaker 1>a look now, Yes, people between eighteen and twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>they do not share what has been stated, but not

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<v Speaker 1>by some big margin. Instead, have a look at this

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<v Speaker 1>forty three percent of people between the ages of thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five fifty four. That's the sweet spot of the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>swinging voter thirteen thirty five to forty four fifty five plus.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets up as you can see there to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent of people. So we were all told by

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<v Speaker 1>the access media, by the narrative media, by the get

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<v Speaker 1>Dutton media that the past two weeks were a disaster,

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<v Speaker 1>that there was just an absolute bomb of hate that

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<v Speaker 1>was coming his way. Well every time, every time, be

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<v Speaker 1>at the rejection of the job summit, the rejection of

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<v Speaker 1>the voice. Now this position, let alone the pausing of

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<v Speaker 1>immigration into the country for people who would like to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to buy a home, no foreign buyers for

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<v Speaker 1>the first couple of years of a Dutton Prower prime ministership.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, clutcha pearls. Everyone's going to start fighting at auctions,

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<v Speaker 1>people at the writers' festival or clap because Australia is

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<v Speaker 1>a racist country. Again, stick it as far as you

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<v Speaker 1>possibly can. I will not be distracted from the issue

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<v Speaker 1>in the country that Australians are hurting. They are hurting

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<v Speaker 1>more than other countries because of the arrogance and the

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<v Speaker 1>politics and the distraction bombs of this government. I will

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<v Speaker 1>not will not be distracted. We will stay on them

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<v Speaker 1>like a laser. Meantime, the government again thought today they've

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<v Speaker 1>got this wonderful free pass because a story appeared today

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<v Speaker 1>in the Australian newspaper. The story suggested that the Coalition

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<v Speaker 1>is looking at ways of being able to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>their promises should they make it into government of this

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<v Speaker 1>or the next election. The back of the envelope figure

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<v Speaker 1>is apparently about one hundred billion dollars. They may well

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<v Speaker 1>be able to move around in the budget. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>read here the Coalition will go to the next election

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<v Speaker 1>with a budget and off budget savings of close to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred billion dollars. In back to bay inflation fighting agenda,

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<v Speaker 1>there will see a raft of labor spending programs acts

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<v Speaker 1>in a bid to arrest structural decline of the government

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<v Speaker 1>balance sheet. Back to me facts, according to the Treasury

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<v Speaker 1>and this Treasurer, the Intergenerational Report shows us that Australia

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<v Speaker 1>will have budget deficits every single year from now till

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<v Speaker 1>the mid twenty forties. Why because the way it is structured,

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<v Speaker 1>the government spends more money than they get in. So

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make sure that those deficits, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course just get added on top of on top of

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<v Speaker 1>on top of on top of so we get to

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<v Speaker 1>on this government by the end of its first term

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<v Speaker 1>one point two trillion dollars in debt, one point two

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars of debt when it was about a trillion dollars. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to change your government. Well, what do we

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<v Speaker 1>do when it's one point two we have to change

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<v Speaker 1>your government because there was one interest rate rise? What

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<v Speaker 1>do we do after another twelve? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>I will not be distracted.

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<v Speaker 1>I will remain focused because normal people are hurting. Three

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<v Speaker 1>point seven million people in Australia right now can't find food,

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<v Speaker 1>can't put enough food on the table to feed their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not where Australia should be at record homelessness

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<v Speaker 1>with a government that got kissed on the proverbial because

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of years of actually getting more money

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<v Speaker 1>than they knew how to spend. But still this government

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<v Speaker 1>has baked in billions and billions and billions and billions

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<v Speaker 1>and billions of dollars in spending that only gets bigger

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<v Speaker 1>as the years go on. And as I've told you before,

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<v Speaker 1>the real scandal is the amount of money that's off budget,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the tens of billions sixty billion dollars that's just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting off budget. It's still borrowed, it doesn't come out

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<v Speaker 1>to it's borrowed money sixty billion dollars off budget, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't read about it when it comes budget time

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<v Speaker 1>and the budget deficit doesn't look as horrible as it

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<v Speaker 1>actually is for a slush fund for people like Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Bowen when it comes to the renewable energy projects and

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<v Speaker 1>then they sign a deal with a company and then

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<v Speaker 1>they say, we can't tell you how much it was

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<v Speaker 1>because of commercial and confidence. Oh yeah, the transparent government.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what this coalition is planning to try to start

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<v Speaker 1>to unwind. They are not talking about cutting any deeper

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<v Speaker 1>than what this government has added to the table. We continue.

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<v Speaker 1>The coalition would not be abolishing indexation for welfare payments,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning welfare payments when will go up if inflation keeps

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<v Speaker 1>going up. That's what Labour's claiming. Why because as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as they see any attempt for anyone anywhere to bring

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<v Speaker 1>the budget back in the water, cuts cuts, cuts, cuts, cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>Uga book of music, black and white images, fear, fear fear. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course the Prime Minister, after seeing the headline and

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<v Speaker 1>not reading the article, thought how it's this, Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the distraction game today. I will not have to

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<v Speaker 1>be responsible for the decisions of my government. Instead, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to make you scared of a potential other government,

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<v Speaker 1>and the media just sat there and watched.

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<v Speaker 6>In the last twenty four hours, we've seen examples of

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<v Speaker 6>that with Angus Taylor announcing one hundred billion dollars of

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<v Speaker 6>cuts on the agenda from the coalition government. It's up

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<v Speaker 6>to the coalition to announce where those one hundred billion

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<v Speaker 6>dollars of cuts will be. We know that Peter Dutt,

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<v Speaker 6>unlike what will happen at this airport, he'll be a

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<v Speaker 6>reverse thrust.

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<v Speaker 2>On the economy.

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<v Speaker 6>He will stifle the economy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the idiot who yesterday said that productivity will

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<v Speaker 1>increase because the boss won't be able to call out

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<v Speaker 1>of ours. Now, of course, productivity is not what happen

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<v Speaker 1>out of ours, what happens while you're at work. He

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<v Speaker 1>is part of a leftist mindset that believes borrowed money

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<v Speaker 1>never has to be paid back because no one will

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<v Speaker 1>ever call it in. He's the type of person who

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<v Speaker 1>believes that if you just add money, or create a

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<v Speaker 1>new authority, or pretend that there's a new department, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're fixing Australia's problems. Now you are building a permanent empire.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the front and center goal of center left

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<v Speaker 1>and further left politics. You have seen it in Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>and to this point, yes, it works electorally, but it's wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that the government grows so big that you

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<v Speaker 1>either work for the government. This government has added more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty six thousand public servants. If you're in business,

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<v Speaker 1>then your biggest client is the government. Look at the NDIS,

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<v Speaker 1>or the percentage of people getting well, which has now

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<v Speaker 1>grown to the biggest in our budget's history, at about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six percent of all of the money that the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government spends it is spent on welfare. So you

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<v Speaker 1>become dependent on the government. Those three groups push them together,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the best part of what sixty sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent guaranteed baked in political majorities. Well, I still live

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<v Speaker 1>in the joint where you can say the government's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I know the government's planning. Of course, this government

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<v Speaker 1>is planning to censor the Internet where lefty think tanks,

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<v Speaker 1>people who would hate me you this channel will say misinformation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the separate independent authority will turn around and

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<v Speaker 1>say that the comments that we've shown based in data,

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<v Speaker 1>based in fact misinformation. And if a social media company

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<v Speaker 1>you posted, well, they would be fine millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for having that misinformation. And then eventually the social media

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<v Speaker 1>company turns around says, we can't be bothered posting links

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<v Speaker 1>from said business. I'm not into that country. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>into that country. Do not be distracted by these people.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, if Albanezi had actually read the article, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know that two thirds of people are allegedly on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter only read the headline, he would have actually seen

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<v Speaker 1>what are the potential areas coming for the opposition? Well

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<v Speaker 1>here from Angus Taylor. First though about what he is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here. When they're saying all we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do is pull back on what labor has been spending

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<v Speaker 1>since they came to government.

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<v Speaker 7>He's fighting the Reserve Bank, he's fighting the Productivity Commission,

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<v Speaker 7>and he is fighting the laws of economics in this

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<v Speaker 7>country because he thinks that the way to beat inflation

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<v Speaker 7>is to throw more money at it. And that has

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<v Speaker 7>never been true and never will be true. We know

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<v Speaker 7>what the answer is to beat inflation. You've got to

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<v Speaker 7>get back to basics. That does mean you've got to

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<v Speaker 7>manage the growth in government spending, and that's why we've

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<v Speaker 7>opposed over ninety two billion dollars of spending in our

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<v Speaker 7>voting in the parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole point. Elections are about to be choices.

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<v Speaker 1>They are meant to be about forks in the road.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor and the left and their mates in the media

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<v Speaker 1>arrogantly believe that unless you are in lockstep with them,

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<v Speaker 1>then you are part of the problem. No, we just

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<v Speaker 1>disagree with you. And by the way, if the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister had been bothered, or the reporters who did not

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<v Speaker 1>question what he was saying today, or the analysts who

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<v Speaker 1>did not question what was being said today, read the article.

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<v Speaker 1>Because in the article, here's some of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>gets you to the mythical one hundred billion dollars, the

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<v Speaker 1>augur Booget number that will be shoved down your throat

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<v Speaker 1>by the narrative makers in this country, by the advertising,

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<v Speaker 1>by the black and white, by the scary music. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of the ten billion dollar housing Future Fund.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll get rid of twenty billion dollars for rewiring the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because there won't be a need to rewire the name,

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<v Speaker 1>because there won't be a one hundred percent renewables policy,

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<v Speaker 1>there will not be a fifteen billion dollar National Reconstruction Fund.

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<v Speaker 1>There will not be a slash fund for the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister to dip into to hand out money to his

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<v Speaker 1>mates like he has out of a Future Made in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia fund that's even opposed by the Greens. They get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of a scheme where the federal government goes in

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<v Speaker 1>with you if you happen to qualify to buy a

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<v Speaker 1>house and then when you sell it, you've still got

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<v Speaker 1>to give money back to the government. That's another five

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars thirty six thousand. As I mentioned public servants.

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<v Speaker 1>There'd also be another two point two billion that woud

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<v Speaker 1>go why because they're not going to fund Melbourne Suburban

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<v Speaker 1>Rail Link, the big build of the Andrews and now

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<v Speaker 1>Allen governments together it's about eighty billion. Once you start

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<v Speaker 1>to squeeze in a couple of other directions you get

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<v Speaker 1>close to one hundred. That's the point. I am sick

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<v Speaker 1>and tired in this country of the laziness of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who claim to be proficient in the political conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a call bs on these people. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>was plenty plenty about the previous government and Australia got

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<v Speaker 1>it right because Australia always gets it right. If it

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<v Speaker 1>was time for a change, we got to change. But

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<v Speaker 1>what we got and what we have is a government

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<v Speaker 1>that is a world away from what it promised two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventy five dollars power bills of But the

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<v Speaker 1>modeling doesn't count. Media, nothing to see here. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not a broken promise. If Toney Abbott had said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we said stop the boats, but the modeling's changed,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd still be screaming about it. Cost of living will

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<v Speaker 1>be better under a labor government. Pick anything in any

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<v Speaker 1>aisle of any shop, anywhere it's more expensive. Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>care about the little person. Twelve interest rate rises, let

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<v Speaker 1>alone increasing petrol taxes, let alone insurance premiums going up

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<v Speaker 1>through the roof. This mob they don't care because they

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<v Speaker 1>give themselves pay rise. Oh sorry, completely separate independent, No

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<v Speaker 1>wage freeze for them. They got three pay rises since

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<v Speaker 1>the last election. Prom Minis has got two new private jets.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who work for the politicians they get their

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<v Speaker 1>highest pay rise in ten years. The public servants who

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<v Speaker 1>advise the politicians, they get their biggest pay rise in

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<v Speaker 1>ten years. Do I seem pissed off because I am

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<v Speaker 1>I will not be blown off course by these people.

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<v Speaker 1>They hate what we do here each and every night.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got to be here every night. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to serious link the show. You've got to share the

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<v Speaker 1>videos on YouTube. You've got to find the link at

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<v Speaker 1>sky news dot com. That au, you've got to get

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. You've got to make us too big to ignore.

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<v Speaker 1>They will do everything they can to pretend that what

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<v Speaker 1>we say here doesn't matter. But you and I know

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<v Speaker 1>that we are the ones who were first to call

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<v Speaker 1>them out, first to say that the Emperor has no clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>Another example of that was something we saw during the

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<v Speaker 1>election campaign, which was the world of each way elbow. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, when it comes to each way Albo, that's

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<v Speaker 1>because says one thing and then does another, says one

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<v Speaker 1>thing and then says another, often within the same week.

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<v Speaker 1>But because much of the media is too busy licking

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<v Speaker 1>the boots of this bloke, because he'll help tuck them

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<v Speaker 1>in at night with a little text message or a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of drinks of the lodge. And the last guy

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<v Speaker 1>was so mean to us. A couple of people have

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<v Speaker 1>already mentioned this, But how can I not the proposed

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<v Speaker 1>gold mine in Blainey in New South Wales. Blainey just

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<v Speaker 1>near Bathist, beautiful part of the world. The Chinese restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>there in the main drag excellent, the pub next door,

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<v Speaker 1>old school. I love their mayor and I love that

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<v Speaker 1>part of Australia. Beautiful part of Australia. Shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>everyone down the road, including my mate's cat and Dave

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<v Speaker 1>in Bathist. Now you know last week the tailings of

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<v Speaker 1>this gold mine were ruled to be something with indigenous

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<v Speaker 1>heritage connections to it. So the people who ran the

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<v Speaker 1>mind said, well, sorry, we can't tender it. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>do this. It's gone, it's over. The indigenous leader came

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<v Speaker 1>forward and again said that there was some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>cultural connection to all of it. Tanya Plubisek made it

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<v Speaker 1>very clear that she, as a representative of the Albernizi government,

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<v Speaker 1>made the decision to give the mine the biscuit.

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<v Speaker 5>Just to be very clear, I haven't blocked the gold mine.

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<v Speaker 5>What I've said is that they need to relocate the

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<v Speaker 5>tailings dam. It's an area that's associated with two very

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<v Speaker 5>important creation stories.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have watched Ossie gold Hunters, you would know

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<v Speaker 1>no tailing, no mine. That's the reality. Oh, we could

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<v Speaker 1>just move things out of here if the people who

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<v Speaker 1>run the gold mine, who would stand to make a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty profit out of it, say they can't move it

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the only option. And guess what, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only option. You pretending you're pro the mind. But

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<v Speaker 1>this one little thing that clearly that people running the

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<v Speaker 1>mind won't move means you killed the project. And amazingly

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister comes out today and says I'm pro

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<v Speaker 1>the mine. Well, could you tell your minister who last

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<v Speaker 1>time I checked works for you to double check her

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<v Speaker 1>decision making process? Talk about each way Albo his government

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<v Speaker 1>bans of mine. Oh, but he's still for her.

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<v Speaker 6>Chris Minz would like it to go ahead. I'd like

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<v Speaker 6>to go ahead too. There's nothing to stop it. There

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<v Speaker 6>are other options that the company put forward on the

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<v Speaker 6>tailing step.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes there is. It's called the Australian Federal Government. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>standing in its way. Now we know this Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>loves being surrounded by the lovies who will one day

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<v Speaker 1>call him Man of the Year or put him in

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<v Speaker 1>the InStyle magazine and oh, pretty boy in China. All

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this crap crap that we've had to

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<v Speaker 1>put up with, including the love life. I don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Wish you well personally, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>not care well. Today the CFMU they took the streets

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<v Speaker 1>and f Albow was what they were screaming. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was the bloke who they helped bully into the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>minister ship. But now it's f Albow because, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the CFMU has been put into administration. Why because in

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<v Speaker 1>part of the reporting of Nick McKenzie and sixty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>where they had cold on tape examples of the CFMU

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<v Speaker 1>at its worst. Here's some of the blow up today.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our union.

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<v Speaker 8>We get to choose who we want to run it,

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<v Speaker 8>not the government.

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<v Speaker 6>We fight for these rights and we will continue to

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<v Speaker 6>fight for these rights.

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<v Speaker 8>When they want to have a go at ass, they're

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<v Speaker 8>having to go on all of us, not just the leadership.

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<v Speaker 8>Because it's our union. We pay the fees. We should

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<v Speaker 8>be the ones who elect on who we want to elect.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not up to them. We had no consultation.

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<v Speaker 1>This union. They want to carry on like it's still

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<v Speaker 1>Eureka Stockade time. This is a union that has run

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<v Speaker 1>out of things to fight for that it fights for

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<v Speaker 1>a two hundred thousand dollars salary for stopg people. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars now, Amazingly, it was the revelations

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<v Speaker 1>on sixty Minutes that made the government move its hand.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not the first time we've heard about potential

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<v Speaker 1>illegalities in and around this union. In fact, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to taxpayer funded internet to tell us that the CFMU

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<v Speaker 1>broke the law. This is story from just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago, two six hundred times according to the

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<v Speaker 1>Fair Work Commission. Repeat, the CFMU was broke the law

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, six hundred times. Gourding the financial Review. The

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<v Speaker 1>CFMU treats nineteen million dollars in fines as a cost

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<v Speaker 1>of doing business. They don't care about the rules. They

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<v Speaker 1>do not care about the rules, which brings us to

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are looking to suck up to the CFMU.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless of what is caught on tape, what is admitted

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<v Speaker 1>all ruled by a commission or a court, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is of course the Greens. The Greens want the muscle,

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens want the money, and the Greens were there

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<v Speaker 1>today telling the CFMU what it wanted. In the Brisbane rally,

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<v Speaker 1>all of.

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<v Speaker 9>You today organized in this powerful union in the CFMU.

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<v Speaker 9>Your union has saved vibes. Your union means that every

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<v Speaker 9>worker with an EBA and negotiated by the CFMU means

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<v Speaker 9>fair wages, means safe conditions. It means a good light

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<v Speaker 9>for you because you are the ones building the wealth

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<v Speaker 9>in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>What do I keep talking about this because it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. It's very obviously going to happen. Because the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens think that they have got a path to winning

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<v Speaker 1>more seats, particularly in Southeast Queensland. The problem is they've

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<v Speaker 1>won most of the rich areas, so now they have

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<v Speaker 1>to start to move their way towards the suburbs. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to help if they can have the help

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<v Speaker 1>of the CFMU to knock on a door or to

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<v Speaker 1>donate money. Now, the idea that the Labor Party is

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<v Speaker 1>allegedly at war with the Union, that it's always ignored

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<v Speaker 1>its problems in the past, but it'll help the Greens,

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<v Speaker 1>who for once may actually outpoll Labor. Yet of course

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>they will continue to keep preferencing the Greens because they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid of them at a federal election. Watch this space.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a lot and I mean a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>to come in all of this. Now, of course, Airbus

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<v Speaker 1>Albo about to take back to these skies, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>part of the distraction. Remember when he's overseas, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly answer any questions about Australian issues or what inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, c't sorry. I can only answer questions about

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Islands for them, because that's where I am

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I'll work on it, but I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>the full danger Dan for you. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pacific Islands Forum, and this is important. A straight

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<v Speaker 1>is to be there where the big dog in the

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<v Speaker 1>region we represent so much help support and who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>love the people of the Pacific Islands. We all want

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of them. But one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to be there at the Pacific Islands Forum

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<v Speaker 1>when the abous Albo h sorry, Toto touches down, will

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<v Speaker 1>be Toto too, because it's a new one four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty million dollars for those two planes.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to see, just fine, you and me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the boss of the United Nations, mister Katis, he

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<v Speaker 1>will kind of tries to outdo himself about global warming.

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<v Speaker 1>That then became this.

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<v Speaker 10>The era of global warming has ended the idea. The

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<v Speaker 10>here of global boiling has arrived. The air is unbreathable,

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<v Speaker 10>the hit is unbearable, and the level of fossil full

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<v Speaker 10>profits and climacy in action is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now the United Nations boss will be there and

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<v Speaker 1>he will be, among other things, saying that Australia needs

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<v Speaker 1>to move away from fossil fuels because Australia is one

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the global problem. Does this floke ever ever

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<v Speaker 1>use the same bellocoast language? Or you must act yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>to the world's biggest polluter because that's China under a

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<v Speaker 1>UN deal that the world signed signed up to and

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<v Speaker 1>put a hand behind its back the Western world. Will

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<v Speaker 1>they get measured off their CO two output from two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and five China two thousand and thirty China compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the rest of the world latest numbers twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>While Australia produces one repeat one percent of global problems

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to CO two, you can see China

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<v Speaker 1>there more than thirty percent, literally more than thirty times

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<v Speaker 1>what Australia does. So I'm so pleased that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to wave the finger at us. How many times are

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<v Speaker 1>you going to do it in Beijing, Shanghai or anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>else over there. Of course, the Third World or what

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<v Speaker 1>do they call it now, the Global South, that's another

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<v Speaker 1>twenty percent, Russia, India, all of those way bigger problems.

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<v Speaker 1>The United States, Well, if Harris gets in who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen there. If Trump's going to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there, he'll yank Paris and tear it apart. But

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<v Speaker 1>Australian needs to change everything because we're one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. What about the joint that's currently thirty thirty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the problem staying in the United States. We

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<v Speaker 1>are yet to see exactly what the pole bandsy is

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<v Speaker 1>for Kamala Harris coming out of the Democratic National Convention.

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<v Speaker 1>The assumption is that you get abounts. Why and why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you four days of fawning and sucky coverage all

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<v Speaker 1>over the media. But clearly there is a problem that

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<v Speaker 1>is now starting to develop for Kamala Harris, and much

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of the media doesn't want to talk about it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to you see, Kamala Harris is a fake

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>you know that because of what she allegedly stands for. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a story tonight in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 1>the lady who previously had called the border wall reprehensible, unconstitutional,

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>now claims she's going to build the wall. Seriously, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're stupid enough to fall for this, well, good luck

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 1>to you. I've got a bridge to sell you. For

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else, they say this for the fakery that it

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>is four years ago, Donald Trump, worst thing of all time,

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 1>kids in cages, all of this business four years lady,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to pretend you're going to do all the

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<v Speaker 1>same things. Please, We all know that she's never going

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<v Speaker 1>to do any of that stuff whatsoever. Little cosmetic here

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>in there, but what garbage. But we also know she's

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<v Speaker 1>terrible when she doesn't have a script. In fact, the

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:35.679
<v Speaker 1>script she is so loyal to that she uses the

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<v Speaker 1>same words every time no matter where she is.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 11>Good to be back in wiscons But it is so

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<v Speaker 11>good to be back in Michigan. Listen, let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 11>I am clear, the path to the White House runs

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<v Speaker 11>right through this state unless and I am clear, the

0:28:52.120 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 11>path to the White House runs right through this state.

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<v Speaker 11>Tim has an incredible record as governor of the great

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 11>state of Minnesota, and as you just heard, he has

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<v Speaker 11>an incredible record as governor of the Great State of Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 11>and to his former high school football players he was

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.760
<v Speaker 11>coach and to his former high school football players he

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 11>was coach. I took on perpetrators of all kinds. I

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.400
<v Speaker 11>took on perpetrators of all kinds and had a summer

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<v Speaker 11>job at McDonald's. I had a summer job at McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah blah blah. But another perfect example about

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:34.479
<v Speaker 1>how the media who are desperate to cover everything. I mean,

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they are literally cheering on a person who doesn't want

0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk to them. That's how out of their mind

0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>these people are. That's how in the tank they are.

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Because you said, Kamala Harris has this little trick when

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<v Speaker 1>she flies around in the plane.

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<v Speaker 2>She may get.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Interviews to any of the reporters, but she goes back

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and apparently sits with the reporters, so they all feel

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.719
<v Speaker 1>like they're on the inside of a journey. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to be able to write a book after she

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<v Speaker 1>becomes president, but they won't do anything to prevent her

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<v Speaker 1>being president by you know, asking her a question. Well, today,

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<v Speaker 1>the media, of course played along with the Democrats game

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that it's all Donald Trump's fault that apparently the setting

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<v Speaker 1>stone deals and rules in and around a presidential debate. Well,

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>she can renegotiate them. He can't.

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<v Speaker 12>Tonight, the status of the presidential debate is up in

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<v Speaker 12>the air, with the two campaigns at odds over whether

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 12>the candidate's microphones should be muted when the other isn't speaking.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 13>The Harris campaign wants, and that's for microphones to stay

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<v Speaker 13>on during the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>They want the mics to remain open, in part because

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>some believe that it would highlight Trump's habit of interrupting.

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>This is garbage. This is garbage. The actual thing Kamala

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Harris's people want is for her to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>take notes with her, to have cheat sheets, to have

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<v Speaker 1>lines written down, to have facts and figures that she

0:30:56.080 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>can't remember so she can look them up during the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what the Trump campaign said about that exact thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Enough of the games. We accepted the ABC debate under

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same rules of the CE and N debate.

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>The Harris camp, after already agreeing to the C and

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>N rules, asked for a seated debate with notes. She

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>can't speak off the top of her head with any confidence,

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<v Speaker 1>so They want you to believe it's completely okay for

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<v Speaker 1>her to sit there with cheat sheets notes and continue

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to be the empty pants suit. Not Obama in a

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>pantsuit because he could talk until we all fell asleep.

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>But she is the empty pantsuit who wants briefing notes.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if you think I'm making it up,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>this is what she's like if she doesn't have a script.

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<v Speaker 8>We've been to the border.

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<v Speaker 11>We've been to the border. You haven't been to the border,

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<v Speaker 11>and I haven't been to Europe. Ukraine is a country

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<v Speaker 11>in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia.

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<v Speaker 11>Russia is a bigger country, Russia is a powerful country.

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Russia decided to invade.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 11>A smaller country called Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically that's wrong.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Now. Of course, the debate about the debate lovely distractions

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>from her actual policy or lack of policy, or flip

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>flop policy or outright lies. The other one is the

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>story about the story of when she will or won't

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>sit down and do an interview. The media have completely accepted. Oh,

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>before the end of the month, well, guess what dull

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>time is teaking. So we learned via NBC News that

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<v Speaker 1>there is a plan for her to have a interview,

0:32:37.720 --> 0:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>But how's this? Her running mate Tim Waltz will be

0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>sitting beside her, So as soon as she starts to

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>go off to the word salad, he turns around and says,

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>have a look at this steak, baby, and saves her

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>from herself. This is not real life. There is no

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>teleprompter in the oval office. I've been there. There is

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>no script in the situation room. There is no pre

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>ordained as Meghan Kelly says, emotional support governor, who can

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>help you through the process. Now, we just went through

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>four days where she's the second coming and the greatest

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and the smartest and the most amazing. So how comes

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>you can't do in an interview by herself? Why can't

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:23.920
<v Speaker 1>she answer questions by herself? Why can't she debate without notes?

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Because all of that is bullshit. This is marketing, This

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>is a brand and it might be winning. But in

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the end, will people really choose a fake like her?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll debate that and a lot more in a moment

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<v Speaker 1>or two time. Looking forward to a conversation with Joe Hildebrand,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 1>James Morrow, Nigel Faras. Just getting started here we go

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>tonight on pul Marie Life by our goods This the

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Titans are here on Tuesday night Morrow from Sky News

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<v Speaker 1>and the Daily Telegraph. And similarly of both parishes, none

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>other than although well both and both will somehow get

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Elbow's call return quicker.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 4>Jacob Jade and I always end up agreeing with each other.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's see last night on Channel two. I tried

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 1>not to talk about the show that who cares any more?

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 1>But still a question from a lady of a certain

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>age and a certain cultural background, we got the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Very pissed.

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<v Speaker 14>My children, now almost thirty and thirty four, went to

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 14>the local state public school and were dictated to that

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<v Speaker 14>multi culturalism is a great thing. I don't believe it is,

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<v Speaker 14>as I feel that the culture of the original British

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:43.720
<v Speaker 14>slash Irish majority has been demonized constantly for the last

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 14>three decades. Case in point, frequent vandalism of memorials to

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<v Speaker 14>Captain Cook. How does this? How does democracy fit into

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 14>this atmosphere of beat up the white guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was a very hot pepper, achieve Jimes, You

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>quite correctly push back online today about just like okay,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 1>there is a certain world view of a certain series

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>of people form a certain period of time that they're

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.000
<v Speaker 1>allowed to speak. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is the

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:13.399
<v Speaker 1>whole thing.

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<v Speaker 15>And you know, if we look around the world right now, Paul,

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.399
<v Speaker 15>there's this massive push against free speech, and a big

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 15>part of that is saying, don't talk about things around immigration, diversity, multiculturalism,

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 15>you know, because if you do your alt right, you're

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.920
<v Speaker 15>hard right. And what happens is you don't talk about

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 15>the problems that also come with multiculturalism. You know, it's

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 15>not just all great restaurants and you know diversity and

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 15>you know, different skin colors. It's actually there can be

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 15>cultural classes, there'll be a lot of other things. You

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 15>need to talk about them, you need to work them through.

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 15>And a couple of points that I'm making it's in

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 15>Tomorrow's Daily Telegraph, is that you know, you can say

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 15>multiculture society is great, but there's also research that says

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 15>it fragments people and that it actually leads to lower

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 15>civic trust. And you know, the other thing too, is

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.160
<v Speaker 15>that when you don't talk about these things, the pressure

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 15>is build up. You get things like those terrible riots

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 15>in Britain, and once you know, you see you can't

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 15>talk about this, well then things explode.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, also, you know, Joe, to me, it is completely

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>acceptable that anyone from everywhere is affectionate about how they

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.760
<v Speaker 1>grew up. Yeah, of course, regardless of regardless of whether

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>it is you know, the place you're watching us right

0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 1>now or the other side of the world. So I've

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>got no problem with people being affectionate about the way

0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>things used to be. That's just the way naturally human

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.880
<v Speaker 1>beings are. What I do have a problem with is

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 1>when somebody, even in artfully starts to say, well have

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>we changed for the better or have we changed for

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the worse? That you can't even ask that fork in

0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the road question because there's a whole series of verbal landmines.

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>What's your sense about some of the overright?

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<v Speaker 4>I completely agree. I think there's well, there's two questions here.

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:52.879
<v Speaker 4>One is you know, is she actually right? Well, from

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 4>her point of view, obviously she is. I'm a huge

0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.719
<v Speaker 4>support of multiculturalism, and I don't think so. But more

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<v Speaker 4>to the point, should she be able to express that

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<v Speaker 4>and not be being liable to racist?

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, of course you should. It is obscene.

0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 4>And not only is it obscene to call someone a

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>racist when they might just be a bit old fashioned

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 4>or pining for a world they knew before, nostalgic about

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:12.479
<v Speaker 4>and why.

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<v Speaker 9>They go up.

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 4>But it is exactly that sort of attitude that makes

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 4>people like this feel that their culture or that their

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.920
<v Speaker 4>freedoms are under threats. So you're actually confirming the exact

0:37:24.000 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 4>same fears that they're expressing, and it is idiotic and

0:37:27.239 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 4>it is also moral.

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<v Speaker 15>Sorry, James, no, I was going to say that, Joe,

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 15>what you just said that gets in to this point

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.240
<v Speaker 15>that I also bring up. You know, they talk about

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.400
<v Speaker 15>this thing called asymmetric multiculturalism, and that's where we celebrate

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 15>every other culture, but the dominant Antlo culture that has

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 15>to be you know, knocked down. We see that all

0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 15>the time, the debates of Australia, the Captain cook stuff,

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 15>anybody who's had a kid go through preschool even and

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 15>seeing how they teach the kids everything about how the

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 15>land there on belongs to an average rub But it's

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 15>nothing about Australian civics or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's it's a you can see.

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<v Speaker 4>Where, but it's the same thing exactly right. And the

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 4>worst thing you can do to destroy a harmonious multicultural

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 4>society is to say that the dominant culture is illegitimate.

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Or to vandalize Captain Cook, or to spray paint on

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.479
<v Speaker 4>the Australian War Memorial, or dare I say, to block

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 4>one billion dollar gold mine on.

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<v Speaker 2>Heritage?

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But again, that is the.

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 4>Minute that you were saying, okay, here high multiculture. Now

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 4>and you the sort of dominant culture that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're now illegitimate?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, what of course that is going to make that

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<v Speaker 4>dominant culture less accepting of other cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a circle exists. Yeah, maybe it's a circles

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<v Speaker 1>that I roll in. But tim cost still significant anti

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<v Speaker 1>gambling person has turned around and has said that the

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<v Speaker 1>challenge facing the Abana government around advertising of gambling is

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<v Speaker 1>similar to the challenge of Howard taking on guns post

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<v Speaker 1>Port Arthur. Now, again, as I said, I might be

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<v Speaker 1>living in the slightly separate world. I very occasionally bet

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<v Speaker 1>and lose on these apps. You know, I'm a poke's man.

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<v Speaker 1>But the sort of puritanical screaming about this issue, does

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<v Speaker 1>anyone really think that this moment in time is the

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<v Speaker 1>same as the days after Port Arthur James? Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 15>I like, I mean, I wasn't here for Port Arthur,

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<v Speaker 15>although I do remember it when it happened and it

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<v Speaker 15>was reported all over the world. It's a very big deal.

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<v Speaker 15>But you know, the thinging point there, there's a puritanical

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<v Speaker 15>edge to all of this, and it's like, let's just

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 15>move systematically through every vice and eventually we're going to

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<v Speaker 15>get to yours.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 15>Well they've gone to yours, you know already. And you know, like,

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<v Speaker 15>I'm not a gambler. I don't bet. I don't really

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<v Speaker 15>like the bet. I do like to go to the

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 15>horses a couple of times here. That's always fun. Also

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.440
<v Speaker 15>lose a bunch of money, never mind. But there's this

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<v Speaker 15>sort of thing where it's like everything that people enjoy

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<v Speaker 15>has got to have some externality to it. And the

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<v Speaker 15>thing is, if you ben all of these apps, you

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<v Speaker 15>know they're already the corps in Sydney are reading illegal

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<v Speaker 15>casinos again like the head back of the sixties and seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, it's a perfect example about this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>right around around draconian this is okay, this is okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The amount of illegal tobacco and who brings it into

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<v Speaker 1>the country and all the problems that have come with

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<v Speaker 1>it directly linked to the policy of making legal tobacco

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<v Speaker 1>as expensive as possible to get right, that's not an

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<v Speaker 1>argument to say no taxation whatever. But once you start

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<v Speaker 1>to move in one direction, the market always finds a.

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<v Speaker 4>Difference, and as it does overwhelmingly to vaping as well,

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<v Speaker 4>which of course the government is now saying the lad.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we at elbows port Arthur moment.

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<v Speaker 6>No.

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<v Speaker 4>In Tim Cassell, I quite liked him, and in his defense,

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<v Speaker 4>he is actually quite literally a Puritan and he's a

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<v Speaker 4>Baptist minister, so he's allowed to be apprited. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think the and this is his you know, his absolute cause,

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<v Speaker 4>is the thing he's been obsessed with his entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that there are I think the problem is firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>the pokem machines are the real problem. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>the sports betting is a real problem. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 4>can manage to lose a lot of money betting.

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<v Speaker 2>On sports, and a lot of people do both.

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<v Speaker 4>But it strikes me the poker machines are the real

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<v Speaker 4>ones that just over up all your cash, So maybe

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<v Speaker 4>focus on that. And secondly, I'm just not sure that

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<v Speaker 4>it's the right time. And I don't think you boys

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<v Speaker 4>make a direct comparison to port Arth and saying this

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<v Speaker 4>is as bad as guns or a killings, where you're

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<v Speaker 4>saying that every once in a while it has to

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<v Speaker 4>make a moral stand, you know, regardless of the sort

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<v Speaker 4>of politics of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is standing there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, I would say very immorally

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<v Speaker 4>that the time to make a moral stand is not now.

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<v Speaker 1>So look at you, Look at you. All right, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>break back with more lots to talk about with Nigel Faraj,

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<v Speaker 1>including Kamala wants to bring It's to a debate. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump doesn't have to turn up and debate somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to bring notes more than a second Nigel Farage

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<v Speaker 1>standing by right now for us in London. There is

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<v Speaker 1>so much to get to and I'm so pleased where

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<v Speaker 1>the show that he chooses to appear on each and

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<v Speaker 1>every week because mate Mate Mate Mate Kamala Harris. So

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<v Speaker 1>apparently if she's going to do an interview before the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the month, she's going to have as Meghan

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly says her emotional support governor with her. But more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing about the debates, all right, I get

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<v Speaker 1>the distraction because the real thing is three since the

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<v Speaker 1>horror of Afghanistan. But she wants notes like, honestly, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a person who for a whole week last week

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<v Speaker 1>was the Second Coming and was so smart and so

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<v Speaker 1>brave and so strong. Then why does she need notes

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<v Speaker 1>at a debate and a minder in an interview?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 13>Truly, there's of course, as soon as she's off script

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:58.880
<v Speaker 13>on subjects like economics, she just flaps and flounders around

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 13>because she clearly hasn't got a blooming clue. Now, the

0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 13>rules of these debates were, of course between Biden and Trump.

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<v Speaker 13>All the Trump team are saying is the same rules

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<v Speaker 13>should apply. And I think in America, in Britain and elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 13>I see too many of these big political programs where

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<v Speaker 13>leading figures are allowed to go in with a big

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<v Speaker 13>crib sheet thick of notes turned to the subject and

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<v Speaker 13>read it out. I think broadcasters need to be much

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<v Speaker 13>much tougher on our leaders have a pencil.

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<v Speaker 2>And blank sheet of paper by all means.

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<v Speaker 13>But Team Trump are absolutely right to say no notes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is my thing. It's not about microphones, because

0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 1>we all know the microphone thing is who just turning

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>around going I'm speaking, I'm speaking. Who cares right, No

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>one cares about that. It's about the notes because this

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<v Speaker 1>is meant to be a mental test because people are

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<v Speaker 1>busy and they go, Okay, what are you like for

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.480
<v Speaker 1>an hour? How do you go? We saw what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with Biden, and I think I think Harris is going

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<v Speaker 1>to get her on sugar hit in the past. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's trouble when they can't put her out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not because they're trying to be scarce with her.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't be scarce in an election. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>were able to get millions of votes because you were everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hide, can you make.

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<v Speaker 10>No?

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<v Speaker 13>I mean Biden got away with it in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 13>because of the pandemic. They sort of locked him in

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<v Speaker 13>his bunker in Delaware and used the pandemic as cover. Now,

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, look, she has not given a single major

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<v Speaker 13>press conference, a single major television.

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<v Speaker 2>Or radio interview.

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<v Speaker 13>She gets up on stage, she reads off an auto

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<v Speaker 13>Q and as soon as she goes off that she

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<v Speaker 13>is literally clueless. And so the point about not having

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<v Speaker 13>notes is you're testing mental acuity, yes, but you're also

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<v Speaker 13>testing instinct. You know, a question may come up that

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<v Speaker 13>you hadn't necessarily thought would. It's how do you instinctively

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<v Speaker 13>deal with that? And so often with politicians like Kamala Harris,

0:44:58.400 --> 0:45:02.040
<v Speaker 13>one senses there is a that much instinct there. The

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 13>job is all about reaching you know, you know, a title, position, rank, respectability.

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 13>It's more about that than what the person actually believes in.

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<v Speaker 13>So this debate on Matepha September, it is crucial. We

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<v Speaker 13>need to see these two people had to hand and

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<v Speaker 13>I'm sure after negotiations, I'm sure it will happen. But

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<v Speaker 13>she can't be allowed to go in with a crib sheet.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, you know, in fairness, a couple of

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, we're talking about the need for Trump to

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<v Speaker 1>tighten up well don't know any and everyone who's making

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<v Speaker 1>some of the decisions around him. The RFK endorsement incredible.

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>It moves votes, it moves states. Hence why they're all

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy at the moment trying to push back. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>the tighter use of language is better. But today today

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<v Speaker 1>he was invited by families to lay a wreath on

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<v Speaker 1>the third anniversary of the horrors of thirteen people being

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<v Speaker 1>killed as they just cut and run from Afghanistan. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he goes to a Vietnamese restaurant. Then he goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the National Garden gives a speech where Tossi Gabbard besimy, like,

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<v Speaker 1>the bloke's working for it. That's the guy who can win. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Trump is a workaholic.

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<v Speaker 13>He is extraordinary, you know, you know those big rallies

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<v Speaker 13>where he gets up and he speaks for eighteen ninety minutes.

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<v Speaker 13>At the end of that last campaign in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 13>I think thing. But day before the election he did

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<v Speaker 13>four or five of those massive speeches all over America.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, you're right, he's working for it, He's going

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<v Speaker 13>for it. I have to say I thought that the

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<v Speaker 13>Kennedy endorsement was not just very graceful, but I thought

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<v Speaker 13>that the words that we used were also incredibly powerful.

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<v Speaker 13>And I quite like the idea of make America healthy again,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, get people off prescription drugs, get them away

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<v Speaker 13>from too much youngk food.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought all of that was okay.

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<v Speaker 13>You can say that Kennedy is a bit out there,

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<v Speaker 13>but I just felt it was a very very powerful endorsement.

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<v Speaker 13>And it's not that the wheels are coming off, Kamala,

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<v Speaker 13>It's just that people are now seeing Trump for what

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<v Speaker 13>he really is.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, when I spoke to you last week, I

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.320
<v Speaker 13>said to you that I felt he was going off course,

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<v Speaker 13>he wasn't really on target. He was obsessing with Biden.

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<v Speaker 13>I think since then he's now back doing all the

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<v Speaker 13>right things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, also the other thing with the

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<v Speaker 1>make America healthy and firstly, don't touch the orange cheese, right,

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.040
<v Speaker 1>it is awesome and as a big boy, I do

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>like that. But and Mozzarella steaks all of those things. However,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of when Drain the Swamp was first introduced,

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<v Speaker 1>because no one ever talks about permanent Washington the bureaucracy, right,

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and this was this huge strain of yeah, we've got

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a problem there. You've now got a strain of people saying,

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<v Speaker 1>do we have a problem with our health? I mean,

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>look at us compared to everyone else around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is one of those things. And Meghan

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly's talked about it. That is a really rich vein

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<v Speaker 1>of people who may vote every now and then or go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I don't really care about economic policy.

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<v Speaker 1>I care about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm an amazing to think.

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<v Speaker 13>Isn't it that America which progressively gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Richer than all the rest of us?

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<v Speaker 13>I mean amazing to think America's GDP is now double

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<v Speaker 13>the European unions and it was equal to it.

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and eight. Think about that.

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<v Speaker 13>So America gets richer and richer, and yet life expectancy

0:48:16.000 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 13>in America has fallen quite sharply over the course of

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<v Speaker 13>the last few years.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is diet in his exercise, but it's also endless, endless.

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 13>Prescription drugs, and so I think this could be a

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<v Speaker 13>very rich sem, a very rich sem.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, good man, Thank you, Nige, we'll see you again

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:35.359
<v Speaker 1>next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you all of.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nager Faraj that you can see your show on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube and certainly on flash as well, which of course

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>is called Faraj. And by the way, before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to everyone who was such a law of

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<v Speaker 1>view of the program. But one in particular deserves a

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<v Speaker 1>happy birthday, Christine. She turned twenty one on the weekend.

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 1>All of this from her family and I placed. You

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<v Speaker 1>and her are Heroach and every night at Ceine tomorrow