WEBVTT - Sharri | 1 October 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:05.160 Live on Sky News. This is Sharry. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.959 Thanks Andrew, good evening, Welcome to the show, and we 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:14.080 start tonight with breaking news. Peter Dutton demands the Prime 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:19.160 Minister step in to cancel a heartless Palestinian rally planned 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.919 for October seven. I'm going to bring you that breaking 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:26.080 story in a moment, plus Albanesi's week leadership on display, 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:31.000 a social cohesion in Australia hangs by a thread, and 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.440 the ABC responds to the latest blunder by one of 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.519 its journalists. I'm also going to bring you full coverage 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.960 of Israel's ground raids and the missiles that hit Israel 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:42.559 in the past two hours. 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:44.240 Sharon Haskell will join. 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.600 Me live on the ground, plus a massive lineup tonight 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:51.800 James Patterson, Dave Shamer, Bronwin, Bishop, Kayla Bond and Michael 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.120 Kroger all on the show. But first let's go to 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.600 that breaking news. Peter Dutton is tonight demanding the Government 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:03.280 council a major pro Palestinian rally planned for the anniversary 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:08.320 of October seven on Monday. Dutton says the timing is 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.679 utterly sickening, and we. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.280 Learn just moments ago that New South. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:17.560 Wales Police have filed a court motion to try stop 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:22.720 this protest going ahead. The Palestinian Action Group is planning 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:24.920 to hold a mass gathering. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.680 On the steps of town Hall. 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.800 This is almost a replica of the outrageous protest that 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.600 started there and ended at the Opera House a year ago. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.640 The flyer promoting this event and you can see it here, 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:45.839 it says morning twelve months of genocide and terrorism, October seventh. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:51.440 You can't get more insensitive than this. On the anniversary 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:57.360 of the day actual terrorists invaded Israel and murdered entire families, 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:02.560 killed babies in their cots, and raped teenage girls before 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.040 shooting them dead. This is the day the Palestinians want 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:07.920 to have a rally. 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:13.880 Absolutely not. This is not okay, It's not appropriate, not on. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.440 The day where there was the greatest loss of Jewish 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:20.480 life since the Holocaust. Well, Peter Dutton Dohl told The 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:25.040 Daily Telegraph that the timing is wrong. He said, the 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.799 fact that these anti Jewish protest gatherings are being considered 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.200 and organized at a time when the Jewish community will 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.679 be commemorating the greatest loss of life since the Holocaust 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:42.240 is an utterly sickening and vile reflection on these protesters. 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.840 How low will they stoop? 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.920 Those are Peter Dutton's comments, and he says there needs 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.239 to be an urgent caught order to stop the event 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.760 going ahead. He's caught on alban Easy to put an 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.240 end to this, together the organizers to change the date. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.880 He says, the Prime Minister needs to start showing leadership. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.359 But I'm starting to think the Prime Minister is incapable 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:11.840 of leadership. He might have been a good local MP, 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.359 but he hasn't been good for Australia. He's allowed our 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:22.840 successful multicultural society to crumble. He's allowed racism to spread. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.160 He's allowed one. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:29.120 Community in particular to be targeted over and over again, 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:34.560 day in day out, with the perpetrators facing no consequences 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.880 at all. The Prime Minister has not only damaged our 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:44.160 diplomatic relations with Israel, but he's allowed support for terrorism 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:45.800 to flourish. 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:47.280 Under his watch. 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.240 The nature of our country has changed for the worse. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:56.480 Where the most vile sentiments in society have been unleashed. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:01.800 There are mosques holding services for a dead terrorist leader, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:07.400 spitting in the face of Australian laws, and Albanizi does 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:11.440 nothing but Peter Dutton said today that if he were 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.840 Prime Minister, he would take action. 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.679 Firstly, mosque's holding themorial services for the hesbela leader. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.680 It seems it seems deliberately provocative. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:26.880 Well, it's very much provocative and it's unnecessary. Every Australian 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.640 would want somebody with the religious belief to be able 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.839 to practice relief that belief and go to a mosque, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:34.800 go to a temple, go to a church, whatever it 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:39.000 might be. But to go there to glorify somebody who 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.800 has been responsible for literally hundreds or thousands of deaths, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:46.160 a terrorist leader, a leader of a listed terrorist organization 0:04:46.279 --> 0:04:50.120 is completely unaccepted. What do you do with the police 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:52.840 and the authorities at home Affairs should be in deep 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:57.400 discussions with themalms and with other leaders within the community 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.880 to make sure that they dial a temperature down here, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.120 because this is going to end in tragedy if we 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.080 don't see an enforcement of the law and people respecting 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:07.680 our values and our laws in this country. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.679 Dutton accuses Albanesi of weakness for failing to take action 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.320 ever since the Opera House protest. He's painting him as 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:22.400 weak and the perception is cementing quickly because it's true. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.479 Why Carl, I mean, why not show the strength of 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.720 leadership that our nation requires. This is a very significant 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.120 point for us, and I don't believe any of his predecessors, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.520 not Julia Gillard, not John Howard, not Bob Hawk, would 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.560 have acted with such weakness. And it permeates down. 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:43.440 Now. ALBINIZI doesn't accept the criticism that he's weak, but 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.840 he should compare a strong leader like Natanyahu in Israel, 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:53.840 or even Dutton's own courage with the insipid and uninspiring Albanesi. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.960 Editor Chris daw makes this excellent point in The Knightly. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.760 He says, when the un U version of October seven 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:08.480 went down September eleventh, Australia went to war. Now he says, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.479 we have gone to water. And he says, put simply, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.600 the left detests Israel and supports what they believe is 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.760 the Palestinian Resistance, a movement that has long been affront 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:26.599 from murderous anti West Islamist terror cult and Dol writes 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.479 about how figures of the Left like Penny Wong and 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:35.960 Albanzi have simply appeased terrorist supporters. He says Wog is 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.240 exposed by her own words she is the minister for Yes. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.720 But Israel Albanizi might be an ordinary bloke and an 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.880 average prime minister, for which we can generally forgive him, 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:51.920 but he will never be forgotten for appeasing terrorists and 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:58.719 running an extraordinarily dangerous foreign policy. Now form Israeli Prime 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.320 Minister Golda may I once said. 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:05.240 That Israel would not ask permission to survive. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:10.600 She said, we refuse absolutely to be the only people 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.240 in the world which consents to having its fate decided 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:20.120 by others. This wise message is worth remembering as Israel 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:23.720 fights for its survival, as the world tries to tie 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.600 its hands behind its back. The woke weak West calls 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:34.160 constantly for a ceasefire, including the Albanezi government, and Israel's 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:39.200 response will first the execution of Nasrallah and now a 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:45.080 ground targeted raid to dismantle Hesbela forces. The terror organization 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.760 is crippled, beheaded, and now the IDF is targeting the 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:54.480 last remaining weapons and infrastructure. And today Israel announced limited 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.680 ground raids of Hesbela sites across the Lebanon border. The 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:04.840 Defense Minister Yoa Gallant met Israeli troops hours before these 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.760 young men and women put their life on the line 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.000 for the sake of freedom. 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:14.360 Demoshanzan, this is your mission and if we will employ 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:18.000 all that is needed, your forces, other forces, from the air, 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.200 from the sea, and also from the land. 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.520 Now it's important to note here that Israel is not 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:29.800 only defending its own citizens but liberating Lebanon from the 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:35.160 stranglehold of a murderous regime. Yet the West demanded a ceasefire, 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:39.680 and Joe Biden personally phone Net and Yahoo to urge 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:43.080 him to let Nasrallah be, not to go after him, 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:45.559 not to kill him, instead. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.120 Have a ceasefire. 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:52.080 How pathetic are these woke and weak world leaders, and 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.560 the Australian government is among the worst of them. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.520 We are gravely concerned at the escalation of this conflict 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.920 means the loss of more innocent life, and that's why 0:09:03.960 --> 0:09:07.080 we have engaged in the international community, and that's why 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.000 we reiterate our calls for a ceasefire. 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.800 The number of civilians killed is just intolerable, and that's 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:17.720 why the government's calls for a ceasefire are so important. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.760 Certainly calling for de escalation of the conflict in the 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.760 Middle East, so that remains our message. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.520 That remains our message to Israel. 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.680 In fact, it's the Western leaders that are partly to 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:34.480 blame for these emboldened terrorists. Had the international community shown 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:39.079 unwavering solidarity with Israel in the wake of October seven, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.120 Tehran may not have flexed its muscles and given the 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:47.600 green light to Hesblah and the Hooties. The international community 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:52.640 should have shown unequivocal strength in the face of Iran. Instead, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:57.120 the West has perpetuated the false narrative that it's Israel 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:02.079 that's the aggressor and this is only emboldened Iran and 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:06.440 its terrorist proxies. The international community could have slapped the 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:11.000 strongest sanctions possible on the Ayatolas of Iran and put 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:16.480 a stranglehold on its financial and terrorism operations, but it chose. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:17.200 Not to do so. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:22.559 Israel has been drawn into this fight. The Jewish state 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.040 is on the front line of the war on terror, 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.480 and as The Wall Street Journal Editor at Large Gerard 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.040 Baker writes today in an excellent piece, the world should 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.760 be thanking Israel. He says, instead of constant calls for 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:41.120 a ceasefire, the only appropriate response to Israel's fortitude and 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:45.360 skill from its nominal allies should be thank you and 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:46.079 how can. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.720 We help, he writes. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:53.000 Instead, Time and time again, Israel's supposed friends, including the 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.160 administration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, have, while expressing 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.960 sympathy over the outrage of October seventh and uttering the 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:06.040 usual support for Israel's right to defend itself, repeatedly tried 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:06.920 to restrain it. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.200 From doing just that. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.839 Do they not get that in the end, we have 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:16.160 to make a choice our ally on the front lines 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:21.560 of defense against barbarism, or our enemies, those who literally 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:26.640 want to see us all buried. And if Gerard Bacon 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:29.440 knew about Penny Wong and alber Easy, he'd add them 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.560 to the list of supposed friends too, because they've been 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.360 worse than even the Abiden administration, which at least voted 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:39.880 against the Prohamas United Nations resolution. 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.280 The line we constantly. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.320 Hear from the international community is that Israel has a 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:52.280 right to defend itself. But but, but, every excuse under 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:56.200 the sun for why Israel shouldn't fight back, for why 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.840 Israel should just lay down arms and let the terrorists 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:05.320 live and thrive and kill its own people, Well, Israel 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.160 is not going to do that, no matter how many 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.520 times the likes of Katie Gallagher and Pennywog or Kamala 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:18.320 Harris or Emmanuel mccron lecture Israel it won't matter because 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:20.240 Israel won't ask others. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.079 For permission to survive. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:26.080 As Golda Maya said, Israel won't have its fate decided 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:33.319 by others. Well, as I mentioned, coming up on the 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:37.560 show tonight, Israeli politician Sharon Haskell. She'll be speaking about 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:42.600 Israel's targeted ground raids on Hezbala in Lebanon. Also James Patterson. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:46.240 James Patterson joining me live. He's pretty angry over the 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.160 government's response to those protests on the weekend. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:50.600 Also going to bring you. 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.840 The rest of the day's news, the other big stories 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.840 with my panels. But now let's bring in former Victorian 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:01.320 Liberal Party president Michael Kroger and Liberal Senator Dave shar Welcome. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:01.840 To you both. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.960 Well, let's start with the protests on the weekend. And 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.880 I'm not sure if you've seen this vision yet, if 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.320 anyone's even played it yet, but I was appoored to 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.680 see children at the rally surrounded by people who were 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.760 forcing them to be pictured with the terror leader Hassan 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:36.760 ISRAELA have a look at this footage Michael Kroeger, children 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:40.240 indoctrinated in Australia to support terrorism. 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.080 I mean it's next level. 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.920 What's your response to the lack of leadership we've seen 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:47.160 from this government. 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.360 Well, it's the type of thing that you see in Gaza, 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.360 when children at a young agent and indoctrinated in underschools 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:01.120 to hate Jewish people. This is a disgraceful development in 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.120 Australia today. And by the way, I didn't see anyone 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.360 I noticed is leaders said, oh, this was a small 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.080 group that came to the demonstrations. I didn't see anyone 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.840 asking them to leave. They seem to be quite happy 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:18.040 melling amongst all of the other demonstras there. No one 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.200 threw them out, no one reported them to the police. 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:24.600 They were quite accepted as part of that demonstration, which 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.920 is a disgusting thing to see. But the answer your 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.680 question is this. Look, if there's one legacy, which will 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.400 be one thing will be written about the Abanezy government 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.120 in the years ahead when they look back on this period, 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:41.240 he'll be remembered for one thing that the greatest rise 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:44.560 in anti Semitism and Jewish hatred happened in Australia on 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.000 his watch at as Prime Minister, and at a time 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:53.720 when Australia needed leadership, we got this weak, insipid, nervous, 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:58.200 jellyback prime minister in the big chair. When we needed 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.640 a bob Hawk John Howard let alone a rage or 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.600 thatcher to rud us. You know, we got Jimmy Carter 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.000 and that'll be his legacy. The Jewish hatred was seen 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.400 on the streets of Australia in the universities and Jews 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.120 were scared for their own safety under the watcher of 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:17.080 Anthony Albanezi. 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.640 Sharry indeed well said Dave Shima, you always take action 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.680 when you see horrific things unfolding and true to farm. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.600 You've written a letter to the Minister for Police after 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:29.880 the protests. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:30.600 In Melbourne and Sydney. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:35.560 You're asking Victoria Police to identify breaches of the code 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.920 that makes it an offense to display terror symbols. Why 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:42.200 do you think the laws we have in place haven't 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:44.960 been used, not just on this occasion, but over the 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:45.600 past year. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.040 I think the reason they haven't then used, Sherry, is 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.800 there's been no political directive or political appetite. I mean, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.200 if you talk to some of the police who are 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:00.680 effectively escorting this protest marches and I did in Melbourne yesterday. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.400 Their instructions are basically to try and keep the peace, 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:07.840 but not maintain and enforce our laws. They have no 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:12.760 political backing from their state ministers or state governments or 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.920 the federal government indeed to go in and demand the 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.640 removal or order the removal of these terrorist symbols and flags, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.960 or to arrest people for chanting insightful or hateful slogans 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.760 or anything else. I mean, there is no political leadership 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.040 being shown here and the police are simply responding to 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.680 the political directives they get. And it's time that changed. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.840 I mean, I think what we saw on Sunday, I 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.280 mean it's gotten become exceeded all bounds of decency and 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:46.080 normalcy several months ago. But surely after Sunday we have 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.040 to start taking some actions, and reluctant federal and state 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.000 government ministers need to start making sure that their law 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.280 enforcement authorities do what it is their tasks we're doing, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:58.000 which is to enforce the law. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.040 Look, I just fear that this is going to be 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:03.760 the same situation as we saw when police said they 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.880 were investigating October seven, and then they ended up holding 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.800 a press conference, as I said last night, gas lighting 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.399 the Jewish community. I fear that this is going to 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.679 end in nothing, because nothing has happened so far, so 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.879 I have lost faith that law enforcement will actually arrest 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:20.560 anyone here. 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:22.440 There are more. 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.280 Problems of the ABC though, as you would know by now, 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.639 one of the ABC's journalists actually questioned Peter Darton today 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.480 about why HESBLA was a terror organization and why Israel's 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.080 flags weren't banned. 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.600 It was utterly extraordinary. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.720 If you haven't seen it yet, we'll play it quickly 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:40.600 again now. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:47.360 Determined even though, men, where are you from? I'm sorry? 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:53.520 Which organization? ABC? So what's the question from the ABC? 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.320 Just to be very clear, I just wanted to point. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.320 Out, because we're commented on the but you asked about 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:08.200 the listing of the ogization. I just didn't understand that questions. Well. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.560 I had presumed up until this point at least that 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.200 the ABC supported the government's laws, and the government has 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.040 passed laws supported on a bipartisan basis, but not by 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.080 the ABC. It seems, in relation to the prescribing or 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.560 the listing of a terrorist organization, HESBLA under Australian law 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:27.560 is a listed terrorist organization. Now, if the ABC doesn't 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.639 support that, they should be very clear about it, because 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:32.119 I think that's quite a departure. But you asked me 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:36.840 why why that why our country has listed hes Blah. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:40.840 They're a terrorist organization that they organized terrorist attacks and 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.960 if that is not clear to the ABC, then I 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.240 think the ABC is in greater trouble. And even I 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:46.480 first imagined. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.320 Michael Kroger, this is one of the worst cases of 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:54.040 anti Israel bias we've seen from the ABC, and there've 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:54.600 been a lot. 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:58.920 You know, they talk about group thing at the a 0:18:59.040 --> 0:18:59.240 b C. 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:00.800 What what was in. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:02.800 The mind of that journalist when she was at work 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.680 that morning talking to the people in News and Current 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.840 Affairs about what she might ask Dutton? Who were her 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.840 contact group, her friendship group, or were colleagues at the 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.320 ABC and elsewhere? That got her to the point where 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.560 she thought it was legitimate to ask Peter Dutton why 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.639 the Israeli flags are allowed to fly but not the Hesbalah flag, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:23.880 or why is it a terrorist? I mean, for goodness sake, 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.119 what planet is that girl on? What planet is the 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:30.240 ABC on that they send a journalist to speak to 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.320 the opposition leader and they put that profoundly ignorant question 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.880 to Peter Dutton. The only remarkable thing about that exchange 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.600 was that Dutton kept you cool. He's a better man 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.680 than I am because he kept cool through that whole 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:48.800 thing despite an incredibly bizarre question from an ABC reporter. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:52.440 Once again, shame on the ABC. And let's see their 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.320 explanation for this one. No doubt there'll be another investigation, 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.040 she'll be cleared, blah blah blah. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:58.679 I mean, not even an investigation. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.119 They've put out a statement saying that questions at a 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.160 press conference today were not a piece of reporting nor 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.920 a position being taken by the ABC, and they've just 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.800 said the ABC recognizes that Hesbela is a terror organization. 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.000 So very weak, Dave. 0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:18.440 But Dardan's response there actually pulling the journalists up asking 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.359 where she was from. You know, it's just not the 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:26.080 sort of leadership we're seeing from the other side. 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.400 No, what this. 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:33.400 Journalist did was utter publicly what they all think privately 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:36.760 in Altimo and South Bank. I mean, this is actually 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.120 the mindset that you see it from some of Labour's 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:45.200 own government ministers that effectively they treat Israel a legitimate, democratic, 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:52.000 liberal state on the same moral footing as a terrorist organization, 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:53.520 and I think they should be held to the same 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.320 standards of account in many respects. In fact, they think 0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:59.160 that Israel should be held to HESBLA shouldn't be held 0:20:59.160 --> 0:21:02.200 to any standards of accouncil behavior, and Zelle should be 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.399 held to one that exceeds what we only what we 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:06.520 demand of ourselves. I mean, this is the sort of 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:09.880 mindset and I'm glad Peter Dunnan pulled it up because 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.000 that sort of baseline assumptions that informs a lot of 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.440 the very bad journalism and reporting we're seeing in Australia 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:22.080 needs to be exposed for the moral bankruptcy that it demonstrates. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:26.560 Yeah, it's just extraordinary how they can be so much 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:28.760 And israe bias on the public broadcast. I don't know 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:32.159 how people can cope with watching it anymore or listening 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.520 to it. Before we go, I want to turn to 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:39.680 the Queensland election because the official election campaign kickoff happened today. 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.680 The Opposition has ruled out preferencing the Greens over labor. 0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:48.159 We haven't seen this at a federal level, of course, Michael, 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.000 in many ways. This is going to be quite a 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:51.840 straightforward Queensland campaign. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:53.120 We know who's going to win. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.040 Here, we do, but Christoph fool has done the right 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.640 thing and no doubt at a federal level coalition will 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.240 put the Greens last, as they should, behind every candidate. 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:07.600 I personally can't think of any register the political party 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.960 who should be put behind the Greens. So I'm hoping 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.520 that at federal level the Greens go last as a 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.600 statement to this country that we will not have any 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:22.880 association with this anarchist collective of anti Israel politicians, some 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:28.720 of whom have exhibited anti Semitic behavior. But the real 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.040 challenge Shari will be does Anthony Alberanezi have the guts 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.040 to put the Greens last or is he going to 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.560 preference the Greens ahead of the Liberal Party and the 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:41.080 National Party. That would be a disgrace given the extremism 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.760 of the Greens. He should say you're going last, and 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:46.880 if he doesn't, it'll cost him a lot more votes 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:47.480 than he thinks. 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:51.919 Yeah, Dave, I mean it's for labor here in Queensland. 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:54.560 It's not so much about winning the election. They're just 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.680 trying to hold on to some seats. You know, save 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.040 the furniture to make the next election Campag not as difficult. 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:08.320 Look, I think, I think that's right. But the moral 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.280 test that is being posed here is the same regardless 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.359 of what the outcome is like that have been and 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:17.640 Michael's entirely right that Queensland Labor should commit to doing 0:23:17.680 --> 0:23:20.840 the same, that is putting preferencing the Greens behind or 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:24.520 last and not ahead of the Liberals, and Anthony Alberanesi 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:26.080 needs to be doing the same. I mean, I don't 0:23:26.080 --> 0:23:29.000 know how often we hear Anthony Albanesi and pennywom and 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:32.480 Tony berknothers castigate the Greens for what they say is 0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:35.840 the primary cause of the social discord we're seeing on 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.159 the streets. If they truly believe that, and if they 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.080 truly have Australia's interests at heart, and our society is 0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:43.639 interest at heart, then Federal Labour needs to commit to 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:45.680 putting the Greens last at the upcoming. 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:49.600 Election one hundred percent. The Greens are such an easy target. 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.080 But you know, let your actions follow your words, and 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.040 we haven't seen that from Federal Labor, all right, Michael Kroger, 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.760 Dave Shama really appreciate your time. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:02.720 Thank you. Now let's turn to Tony Burke. Now, the Home. 0:24:02.520 --> 0:24:06.840 Affairs Minister was asked today about the protests on the weekend, 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:12.040 the people flying the Hezbela flags, the terrorism celebrating the 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:16.160 dead terror leader Hassan Israla, and he managed to turn 0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.399 his answer into an attack on Peter Dutton. 0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.280