1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: This is the fitting and with her with Kate Richie podcast. Scammers, Man, 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: they're out there. Got to be so careful. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: I was worry about mum and dad. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: As I get a little bit older, I just look 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: at the amount of emails I get where. Yeah, they're 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: scamming everybody. They're pretending to be all deaf, dumb and 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: blind and just asking for handouts, you know, forgetting to 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: pay for a coffee, just wandering off with the cup 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: and then going, oh sorry, I didn't realize. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: John and hise pyramid schame. He's ripping off everyone. 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: Here's an interesting one, and there's so many of them 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: out there, Like, how many emails do you get where 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: you can tell that the dodgy scammers have tried to 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: recreate the logo and they've just googled the fond and 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: then copied the color. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: But it just looked terrible. I got scammed last night. 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: Actually, did you put me in a bad mood? I 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: lost some money last night? 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Yilty? What did you do? Here? We go gather around everyone. 20 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: I was trying to try send a transaction on a blockchain, 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: and somewhere along the link of what I was. 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Doing, there's an alarm bell going off already. 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, blockchain, nothing wrong with blockchain, best tracking technology. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: There is so somewhere along the way of what I 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: was attempting to do, something intercepted what. 26 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: I was doing. Oh, I don't think so well. 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: I think it must have been because I was just 28 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: following a prompt and clicking through and the next thing 29 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, the money hadn't arrived. 30 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: Do you reckon it may have been a scam the 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: whole time? Or do you reckon there was an interception? 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: Do you I think there was an interception? 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: You're right, I could have downloaded dodgy software when I 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: googled the software to download your right fits. Maybe I 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: downloaded the wrong software and therefore I was caught out 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: at that stage. 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: Don't try to come up with excuses. You got scammed 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 3: from the start. Yeah, but I don't know if it 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: was the program or a coin. No, it wasn't, it 41 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: was other money. 42 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: Cooped furious Tom, absolutely furious. How much it doesn't And 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: now I've got this is the extent I've gone to 44 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: try and find out what to do. I'm on Reddit, 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 1: started a Reddit profile. Anyone happened to anybody, And that's 46 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: the thing fits here. I am entering in these details, 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: going do you know what I ended up doing when 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: I realized what had happened? 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 2: Oh, here's the other thing fits. 50 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: When it happened, all of a sudden, my camera came 51 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: on my computer, So I saw a green light. My 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: camera came on, and I went, oh my god, it's 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: taking a photo or getting some video because there are 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: so many other things that can be verified through face recognition. 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh you're gone. 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: So then I very quickly downloaded Norton antivirus. 57 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: Did you have your shirt on at the time? Too late, mate, 58 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: too late. You can't reverse it. 59 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 1: But very quickly I put I put my hand over 60 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: the camera because I didn't know how to turn the 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: camera off quickly. But I saw the grain light appear. 62 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: They've got it. 63 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: And then I downloaded nanty virus because that suggested that 64 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: there could be some malware on the Does anybody know 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: what that means? 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: Malware? Yeah? What's that jet? 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a spy program, like they've put something 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: in your computer. 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: So now they can read everything because they can probably 70 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: if they've turned your camera on, there in everything. Now 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: it's also a range of target people from Melbourne. 72 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I was just absolute panic. And I did you get 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: to bed till ten thirty? Because I was running my 74 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: nort nanti virus going through millions of files with me 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: no Nandy virus. 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: You go to bed at ten thirty. 77 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: Every anyway, money gone, Like, I don't know what to 78 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: do now, guys, well, I mean Tom, I was going 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: to talk about a lady who sent money to an 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: astronaut in space who claimed he was running out of oxygen. 81 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: So I don't feel so silly. 82 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: It's in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast 83 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: to walk great shows like this. 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