WEBVTT - It Oozes Through Your Body | Salvatore Coco 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Approche Production. 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:13.280 Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the 0:00:13.361 --> 0:00:16.800 Muscle comments and in this episode, I speak to star 0:00:16.881 --> 0:00:19.361 of Underbelly, Golden Mile Salvatory Coco. 0:00:20.041 --> 0:00:22.961 There's there's a difference between acting and just me. You know, 0:00:23.001 --> 0:00:24.361 that's why that's the actor. 0:00:24.561 --> 0:00:26.601 Everybody's gone regrets one hundred percent. 0:00:26.641 --> 0:00:28.961 We've all got regrets and you're saying I'm saying it, 0:00:29.081 --> 0:00:29.721 you're saying it. 0:00:29.761 --> 0:00:33.001 Okay, if you just give me a second, I'll probably 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.681 get there before. I wasn't really kind of allowed to 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.001 mention that sort of thing, but I think it's all 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.600 out there. When you're in that mindset, when you're constantly 0:00:40.641 --> 0:00:47.241 in that mindset playing someone's staunch, it uses through your body. 0:00:49.961 --> 0:00:51.601 Before we get into the nitty gritty. 0:00:51.361 --> 0:00:52.761 I want to say thank you for coming in an 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:53.601 absolute pleasure. 0:00:54.161 --> 0:00:54.321 You know. 0:00:54.401 --> 0:00:57.281 I'm going to be gentle to the certain certain point. 0:00:57.881 --> 0:01:01.721 Let's start off with growing up and your childhood and 0:01:02.121 --> 0:01:03.681 before you get into TV. 0:01:03.561 --> 0:01:05.721 And okay, so you're you want you want to know 0:01:05.721 --> 0:01:07.560 about my career and how it all started. I want 0:01:07.601 --> 0:01:09.920 to know about you growing up first, all right, So 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.241 I grew up in the suburbs of pretty much the 0:01:12.241 --> 0:01:16.840 Newtown around Newtown. You know, I was seventy five, kid 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:23.720 was seventy five. Italian background, non English speaking, Wow. Yeah, 0:01:23.761 --> 0:01:26.161 so I went to school speaking Italian. I didn't go 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.360 to school speaking English. So yeah, so it was a 0:01:30.441 --> 0:01:34.121 very interesting part of growing up when you when you 0:01:34.161 --> 0:01:36.280 grow up going into a school non eight. 0:01:36.321 --> 0:01:37.801 Well I did speak English. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.681 But more so, like I was more of a I 0:01:40.721 --> 0:01:43.200 spoke more Italian than anything else. 0:01:43.441 --> 0:01:44.161 Gibberish. 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:49.841 Yeah, but yeah, so it was it was interesting to 0:01:49.881 --> 0:01:52.761 adjust going back then, if I remember correctly, it was 0:01:52.801 --> 0:01:55.081 really hard to kind of adjust to sort of like 0:01:55.521 --> 0:01:58.521 going back home speaking Italian going to school speaking English, 0:01:58.561 --> 0:02:00.481 you know, and you're get in trouble because you know, 0:02:01.041 --> 0:02:04.161 you wouldn't really, Yeah, it just be because things like 0:02:04.241 --> 0:02:06.081 learning was hard. It was a hard thing. 0:02:05.961 --> 0:02:08.721 For me to to to adjust. 0:02:08.841 --> 0:02:09.641 So you what do you do? 0:02:09.881 --> 0:02:13.121 You're cheeky. So I was a cheeky one as you 0:02:13.121 --> 0:02:14.960 can do. You know, when Neil tells me to stop 0:02:15.041 --> 0:02:15.881 swaying on the chair. 0:02:15.761 --> 0:02:17.161 What do I do? 0:02:17.161 --> 0:02:17.601 Don't say? 0:02:19.401 --> 0:02:22.800 Yeah, So, looking so growing up in the Newtown area 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.800 and which is literally just yeah, just a couple of 0:02:26.841 --> 0:02:31.321 kays away from here, and family was you know, they 0:02:31.361 --> 0:02:33.361 obviously migrated here from Italy. 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:34.841 My dad was an entrepreneur. 0:02:35.081 --> 0:02:37.241 I did whatever he had to do to put food 0:02:37.281 --> 0:02:39.521 on the table, you know, and we kind of I 0:02:39.561 --> 0:02:42.720 grew up in a family of properties really at the 0:02:42.761 --> 0:02:44.601 end of the day. We had fruit shops and things 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.241 like that. So as a kid, I was always packing, 0:02:47.921 --> 0:02:50.281 you know, onions. 0:02:48.881 --> 0:02:50.881 And fucking putting oranges on. 0:02:51.281 --> 0:02:54.521 And all that stuff, and mushrooms and all that. Now 0:02:54.561 --> 0:02:57.241 it was good fun, good fun tomatoes and I still 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.361 remember that. I still remember weighing things as a kid. 0:02:59.881 --> 0:03:03.520 But but yeah, so I grew up in Newtown, and 0:03:03.881 --> 0:03:06.361 by the time I was probably about nine or ten 0:03:06.481 --> 0:03:10.561 or so, I'd had already sort of like my personality 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:11.960 had kind of sort of like. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.361 Opened up. 0:03:14.441 --> 0:03:17.361 And you know, anytime there was an event, it could 0:03:17.361 --> 0:03:18.721 be it could have been I don't know, I could 0:03:18.761 --> 0:03:21.241 have been a festival, it could have been a wedding. 0:03:21.321 --> 0:03:24.641 There could have been any kind of occasion, you know. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:29.561 So seal Cocoa was always a allion annoying on stage. 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.241 I'd always I'd be the one, you know, grabbing the 0:03:32.321 --> 0:03:35.321 jackets or the dress of the entertainers saying I want 0:03:35.321 --> 0:03:36.801 to sing, I want to sing, I want to sing, and. 0:03:36.721 --> 0:03:37.521 That's how it all started. 0:03:37.521 --> 0:03:41.001 And I'm pretty much I started on the on the 0:03:41.081 --> 0:03:44.081 on the dance floors of reception lounges, and then from 0:03:44.121 --> 0:03:48.681 there moved on too festivals and the real, the real, uh, 0:03:49.121 --> 0:03:52.521 the real turning point for me to know that I 0:03:52.641 --> 0:03:56.921 was going to get into this industry was a long 0:03:57.241 --> 0:04:01.001 long time ago, and I must have been about I 0:04:01.081 --> 0:04:04.321 must have been about eleven, you know, like three three 0:04:04.441 --> 0:04:08.321 years into sort of like exploring my talents as a 0:04:08.681 --> 0:04:13.841 as an artist. There was a performer called John Saint 0:04:13.921 --> 0:04:17.401 Peter's and John Saint Peter's was the guy. He used 0:04:17.401 --> 0:04:19.761 to sing, well, summer Town's in wonderworld. 0:04:19.801 --> 0:04:23.841 You and I was welcome to my anyway. 0:04:23.961 --> 0:04:26.001 You wouldn't know it. You were in the UK. You 0:04:26.001 --> 0:04:31.520 were a Scouser as a Schnauzer, no Skauser, Skuzer scu. 0:04:32.841 --> 0:04:33.281 Anyway. 0:04:34.081 --> 0:04:37.481 Anyway, he was performing at the Five Dog Festa, and 0:04:37.521 --> 0:04:39.200 the five Dog Fester back in the day used to 0:04:39.201 --> 0:04:42.041 be you know where the leisure center is in in 0:04:42.041 --> 0:04:45.561 in five Dog now Deligious Center. Hear the park, Yeah, 0:04:45.681 --> 0:04:47.640 that's where they used to have the festa back in 0:04:47.681 --> 0:04:50.121 the day. And he was performing and he did actually 0:04:50.201 --> 0:04:53.161 get some kids on as the closing act, the closing song, 0:04:53.641 --> 0:04:56.721 and I knew that song back to front like back 0:04:56.761 --> 0:04:58.880 then I used to know back to front and I 0:04:59.041 --> 0:05:01.041 just took the mic off him and I went I 0:05:01.081 --> 0:05:04.361 went for gold. After that, strangely enough, his management, his 0:05:04.481 --> 0:05:07.601 team pulled me aside and they said, you know, we 0:05:07.641 --> 0:05:08.401 can see a bit. 0:05:08.241 --> 0:05:10.921 Of talent here. Like I didn't understand that. 0:05:11.001 --> 0:05:13.601 I just was like a kid, just you know, but 0:05:13.641 --> 0:05:15.801 what they call it now nowadays, kids with a D 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:20.320 D add DHD in PhD whatever it is. I was 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.481 one of those kids right anyway, But they didn't diagnose 0:05:23.481 --> 0:05:26.320 it back then. They just considered as me being cheeky 0:05:26.481 --> 0:05:29.241 but anyway with a personality. But anyway, so they so 0:05:29.401 --> 0:05:33.600 the team. The team ended up just sort of like saying, 0:05:33.641 --> 0:05:36.081 you know, we want to kind of coach you and 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.721 bring you to the to the next level if possible. 0:05:38.761 --> 0:05:40.960 Anyway, that was my first paying gig. I got twenty 0:05:40.961 --> 0:05:43.921 bucks for that show. By the way, I got twenty 0:05:44.041 --> 0:05:46.760 I've actually still I've actually no joke. 0:05:47.001 --> 0:05:49.281 What no shit, you didn't spend it. 0:05:49.481 --> 0:05:52.401 No, see, I'm so used to not swearing, but. 0:05:53.401 --> 0:05:55.601 On a podcast because I need you to just yeah, 0:05:55.761 --> 0:05:58.601 so no joke. I literally got twenty bucks on what happened. 0:05:58.641 --> 0:06:01.601 I never forget it. Johnson Peters gave me the money 0:06:01.841 --> 0:06:03.161 and I went, no, no, no, no, I don't want it, 0:06:03.161 --> 0:06:04.921 and it was like a bit of a tug of war. 0:06:05.241 --> 0:06:08.641 I still we ripped it, right, We ripped that twenty dollars, right, 0:06:09.161 --> 0:06:11.721 and I've still got that twenty dollars on a paper 0:06:11.721 --> 0:06:15.960 clip with his photo signed. But anyway, what's wrong with that? 0:06:16.081 --> 0:06:19.361 It's called memories, okay, me as a kid, would have 0:06:19.401 --> 0:06:23.281 spent it. No, no, no, I was told by my my, 0:06:24.121 --> 0:06:25.801 by my mom to not spend that. 0:06:25.801 --> 0:06:27.640 That's that. That's it. Look, look, look how I'm talking 0:06:27.641 --> 0:06:28.121 about it. 0:06:28.521 --> 0:06:30.321 Oh great, anyway, let's move on. 0:06:32.001 --> 0:06:34.121 Well, look, the good thing is those twenty dollars notes 0:06:34.121 --> 0:06:36.641 don't exist anymore, so they're probably it's probably worth. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:40.921 More now, so it's not where of jack shit for 0:06:41.081 --> 0:06:42.161 twenty bucks. 0:06:43.041 --> 0:06:44.921 Well, you've just killed my whole fucking. 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:47.801 Focus. 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:50.801 Now I'm going to have to swear now you just 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.640 killed my whole fucking light there mate, you know anyway, Yes, 0:06:54.761 --> 0:06:56.961 so still got a freak. 0:06:58.521 --> 0:07:00.921 And yeah, no, so it was good. 0:07:00.961 --> 0:07:03.281 It was good to you know, to get them to 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.041 come on board, and I learned how to play the guitar, 0:07:05.041 --> 0:07:07.200 I learned how to sing. I did a lot of 0:07:07.721 --> 0:07:11.121 singing the Stedford's around Sydney. And then as I was 0:07:11.161 --> 0:07:13.401 a kid like, as I kept going into I got 0:07:13.401 --> 0:07:14.721 a little bit bored of it, to be honest with you, 0:07:14.801 --> 0:07:16.681 playing the same scales all the time on a guitar, 0:07:17.361 --> 0:07:19.201 and I said, I want to kind of venture into 0:07:19.201 --> 0:07:22.721 something more than this, you know. And they used to 0:07:22.721 --> 0:07:24.841 have it, they used to have the Sydney the Sydney 0:07:24.841 --> 0:07:27.401 Telegraph and you know in the US to say, you know, 0:07:27.481 --> 0:07:28.441 do you want to be an actor? 0:07:29.361 --> 0:07:31.441 Fucking hell, you know, one of those bloody things. 0:07:31.441 --> 0:07:31.721 All right. 0:07:32.081 --> 0:07:35.281 So anyway, so I so I said, okay, I'm going 0:07:35.321 --> 0:07:38.281 to I'm going to call in and I'm gonna I'm 0:07:38.321 --> 0:07:41.281 going to get part of this. And I signed up 0:07:41.321 --> 0:07:43.841 at a school which was literally down the road here. 0:07:43.881 --> 0:07:46.921 It was called King Kids back then, Gala Artists, and 0:07:46.961 --> 0:07:50.441 they were offering a deal where like you pretty much 0:07:50.441 --> 0:07:52.601 come in and they coach and sort of like now, 0:07:52.641 --> 0:07:54.401 I had no money. My parents weren't going to pay 0:07:54.401 --> 0:07:56.681 for it. So what they did was they put me 0:07:56.721 --> 0:07:59.121 in as an extra in different little bits and pieces 0:07:59.161 --> 0:08:00.921 here and there, and from the money that I was 0:08:01.001 --> 0:08:04.001 earning from there was paying my tuition, and I learned 0:08:04.001 --> 0:08:07.001 how to act, sing and dance. So I ended up Yeah, 0:08:07.081 --> 0:08:08.281 so that's how it all happened for me. 0:08:08.321 --> 0:08:09.041 So I ended up. 0:08:09.521 --> 0:08:10.641 Doing all those things. 0:08:10.801 --> 0:08:16.801 And like literally six months seven eight maybe eight months 0:08:16.921 --> 0:08:21.401 later after signing up with these with these guys, I 0:08:21.481 --> 0:08:24.961 was doing pantomimes, extra work. I ended up getting one 0:08:25.041 --> 0:08:29.561 of my first lead roles on a kids show called 0:08:29.601 --> 0:08:30.241 Swap Shop. 0:08:31.281 --> 0:08:32.521 I remember swap Shop in England. 0:08:32.761 --> 0:08:36.841 Yeah that's yeah, that's it. That's actually it shop. 0:08:37.241 --> 0:08:38.441 Okay, So I was. 0:08:39.081 --> 0:08:39.881 I played. 0:08:41.121 --> 0:08:43.721 The grand prince of something I can't remember. I was 0:08:43.761 --> 0:08:48.041 such anyway, he came from overseas and it was one 0:08:48.041 --> 0:08:48.401 of these. 0:08:48.321 --> 0:08:49.761 Little story, crazy little stories. 0:08:49.761 --> 0:08:52.921 But yeah, I still remember shooting it at what's the 0:08:53.081 --> 0:08:57.441 what's the what's the name of the pool on mcmart's 0:08:57.761 --> 0:09:01.801 McMahon's point, you know the pool where they Luna Park is. 0:09:01.841 --> 0:09:04.521 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's that swimming pool. That's that's 0:09:04.561 --> 0:09:05.641 actually where we shot it. 0:09:05.681 --> 0:09:06.441 I still remember it. 0:09:06.761 --> 0:09:08.361 I have you kept your paycheck from there too? 0:09:12.641 --> 0:09:15.121 I kept I kept the patient, but not the paycheck. 0:09:17.161 --> 0:09:17.961 Smarty pants. 0:09:18.081 --> 0:09:20.881 But anyway, so from there, So from there, I pretty 0:09:20.961 --> 0:09:25.001 much did other other jobs and I ended up kind 0:09:25.001 --> 0:09:30.241 of working as a as a regular, a guest regular 0:09:30.361 --> 0:09:34.241 on uh well not as on a country practice. 0:09:34.241 --> 0:09:35.721 I was, you're just doing a guest role, but. 0:09:35.681 --> 0:09:40.561 I did in that country practice Country Practice. And also, yeah, GP, 0:09:41.241 --> 0:09:43.801 I've seen GP was your first one. Yeah, GP was. 0:09:43.841 --> 0:09:48.041 Really the semi semi lead role. And I have to 0:09:48.521 --> 0:09:50.361 I have to give out. I give a massive shout 0:09:50.361 --> 0:09:53.041 out to Peter Andrew Keats, the director who I never 0:09:53.121 --> 0:09:57.401 forget saw me. I came in for that one one 0:09:57.441 --> 0:10:00.241 episode and he just he just had yeah, he just 0:10:00.401 --> 0:10:02.801 he was so he loved what I did and he 0:10:02.921 --> 0:10:05.481 just continued to just ask the writers to bring back. 0:10:05.521 --> 0:10:07.081 And it was Andrew Kides. 0:10:07.161 --> 0:10:12.401 But the guy who actually really got me the lead, well, 0:10:12.441 --> 0:10:15.961 the big big success on Heartbreak High was Peter O'Neil. 0:10:16.481 --> 0:10:17.521 Not many people know this. 0:10:17.641 --> 0:10:21.961 Peter O'Neil was one of my drama teachers at Gala Artists, Okay, 0:10:22.201 --> 0:10:25.601 and he was actually the guy that was teaching me 0:10:26.041 --> 0:10:29.081 performing arts and stuff like that. Him, Malcolm Frawley and 0:10:29.081 --> 0:10:32.401 all those guys, Alan Sinners, those guys there, and they 0:10:32.881 --> 0:10:35.601 Peter O'Neil was one of the original writers on Heartbreak 0:10:35.681 --> 0:10:38.121 High and I reckon. That's how I got it. That's 0:10:38.161 --> 0:10:39.921 how I think I personally got You didn't do an 0:10:39.921 --> 0:10:42.601 audition for that, No, we auditioned, but you know, you know, 0:10:42.641 --> 0:10:44.841 they would have kind of said, you know, he's he's 0:10:44.881 --> 0:10:45.961 the key, he's the dude. 0:10:46.001 --> 0:10:48.601 You know he's special. Yeah, yeah, he's got something special. 0:10:48.881 --> 0:10:54.721 I just went, yeah, I just meant, I. 0:10:54.881 --> 0:10:55.481 Learnt with you. 0:10:55.641 --> 0:10:59.361 Just don't bite, don't bite, Just just keep moving, just 0:10:59.481 --> 0:11:01.361 keep going, Just be like the traffic behind you. 0:11:01.521 --> 0:11:05.681 Just keep going, you know. Yeah. So then now that's 0:11:05.681 --> 0:11:07.281 pretty much in a nutshell. 0:11:07.321 --> 0:11:11.041 That's it was Heartbreak High before country practice or after after. 0:11:10.961 --> 0:11:13.281 After country practices. Was in the. 0:11:13.201 --> 0:11:16.280 Beginning country practice? Please rescue water. 0:11:16.121 --> 0:11:22.521 Rats stingers, stingers, fucking all Saints, all sts you. 0:11:23.041 --> 0:11:28.841 I was a guy dying, didn't It's interesting, It's interesting. 0:11:28.881 --> 0:11:30.161 There was a time in my career. 0:11:30.161 --> 0:11:32.681 I think it was probably for about a good easy 0:11:32.721 --> 0:11:34.161 teen years, I was always dying. 0:11:35.081 --> 0:11:37.041 Yeah talk. 0:11:39.201 --> 0:11:43.721 Well, strangely enough, that's actually the truth. They said this 0:11:43.761 --> 0:11:44.561 guy could talk. 0:11:44.441 --> 0:11:48.361 Under water, for sake, kill him? 0:11:50.001 --> 0:11:51.121 What waters? 0:11:52.201 --> 0:11:53.681 So I in water. 0:11:53.521 --> 0:11:57.121 Rats, I played a journal I played a journo in 0:11:57.161 --> 0:12:00.081 water Rats, and then I came back and I played 0:12:00.961 --> 0:12:02.681 if I remember, yeah, I actually. 0:12:02.521 --> 0:12:08.161 Killed off the lead. Yeah, please rescue, Please Rescue was 0:12:08.241 --> 0:12:10.681 interesting in the beginning. I was a I was played 0:12:10.721 --> 0:12:11.521 Joseph Cardillo. 0:12:12.361 --> 0:12:14.641 He was a he was you know, he was a 0:12:15.441 --> 0:12:19.601 he was a cover police reside ship. 0:12:21.641 --> 0:12:23.881 And then you then you got the break for Heartbreak High, 0:12:23.881 --> 0:12:25.681 and then I got the break for harm to me, 0:12:25.841 --> 0:12:27.801 that was your that's the big break that got your. 0:12:28.041 --> 0:12:30.601 Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 0:12:30.761 --> 0:12:33.521 Heartbreak High was the one that kind of got me 0:12:33.601 --> 0:12:38.081 out there, just really like pushed the name and you know, 0:12:38.681 --> 0:12:41.721 maybe who what made me who I am really at 0:12:41.761 --> 0:12:43.721 the end of the day, like yeah, you know it. 0:12:43.801 --> 0:12:48.081 Was no comment anyway, no, please do please. How many 0:12:48.161 --> 0:12:49.161 years were you doing Heartbreak Out? 0:12:49.401 --> 0:12:52.481 I did it for in total, it was a good 0:12:52.961 --> 0:12:55.721 three years. I did two series, two series. 0:12:55.801 --> 0:12:56.241 Yeah. 0:12:56.321 --> 0:12:59.361 Yeah. Look, you know, out of all of them, all 0:12:59.401 --> 0:13:02.481 the stuff that I've done, there's been three things that 0:13:02.641 --> 0:13:06.761 I absolutely love, or maybe three, maybe four things that 0:13:06.801 --> 0:13:12.161 I love to love doing Heartbreak Eye, Underbelly and playing 0:13:13.081 --> 0:13:17.561 I played Peanut in the Peter Brock story. That was 0:13:17.681 --> 0:13:22.681 just mate, so much fun, doing police rescue, police rescue, 0:13:22.881 --> 0:13:25.921 playing Joey Cardillo. Right, you know, you know a lot 0:13:25.961 --> 0:13:29.521 of all these buildings around here right especially now actually 0:13:29.521 --> 0:13:30.961 where we are now this is to be the old 0:13:31.001 --> 0:13:35.481 sugar factories, right, And I was ab siling through buildings 0:13:35.601 --> 0:13:40.361 and my car chases police rescue was fantastic, you know, man, 0:13:40.361 --> 0:13:42.641 I'm telling you that was an experience of a lifetime, 0:13:42.921 --> 0:13:48.161 you know, like hanging off cliff faces and we're doing a. 0:13:48.081 --> 0:13:49.041 Lot of our own stunts. 0:13:49.041 --> 0:13:49.281 Man. 0:13:49.801 --> 0:13:52.801 Oh yeah, it was fun. Man, it was fun. 0:13:53.841 --> 0:13:57.241 Man, what a buzz, you know, like doing stuff like 0:13:57.321 --> 0:14:00.481 in some once again going back to North Sydney. 0:14:00.521 --> 0:14:02.401 You know all those as. 0:14:02.281 --> 0:14:03.681 You come off the bridge, if you come on this 0:14:03.721 --> 0:14:05.081 way and you come on off the bridge right on 0:14:05.081 --> 0:14:07.801 the left hand side, there's all those big departments, right. 0:14:08.081 --> 0:14:10.921 We used to abseil all those I used to abseil 0:14:11.001 --> 0:14:14.721 all those, all those buildings there, and ah, that's so 0:14:14.841 --> 0:14:16.881 much fun. You get days that like you got like 0:14:16.921 --> 0:14:20.281 twenty thirty degree wins and those those cables are moving. 0:14:20.761 --> 0:14:22.841 You can't abseil anything because it just locks you in. 0:14:23.001 --> 0:14:25.601 You're not going nowhere. A lot of a lot of 0:14:25.601 --> 0:14:27.241 a drilling used to finish the day, and your eyes 0:14:27.281 --> 0:14:30.001 were like that you're like so much a drilling and 0:14:30.041 --> 0:14:33.041 pushing through your body. Yeah, yeah, I know what you're thinking. 0:14:33.281 --> 0:14:37.881 No talking about a drilling one track mine, one track mine. 0:14:37.921 --> 0:14:42.401 With heartbreak high. Do you actually once you've done that, 0:14:42.441 --> 0:14:45.081 do you think then you knew and your in your 0:14:45.081 --> 0:14:47.601 heart and your head that this is what you wanted 0:14:47.641 --> 0:14:47.881 to do? 0:14:47.961 --> 0:14:50.401 This is I know, I know, I knew, I knew 0:14:50.601 --> 0:14:50.961 we're not. 0:14:51.081 --> 0:14:54.241 Yeah, way before that, I knew that I was going 0:14:54.321 --> 0:14:57.441 to I knew I wanted to do. You know, I 0:14:57.481 --> 0:15:00.721 wanted to be in film, television, you know, on stage. 0:15:01.761 --> 0:15:03.521 You know, look where we are right now. Yeah. The 0:15:03.521 --> 0:15:03.921 amount of. 0:15:03.921 --> 0:15:06.401 Voiceovers those to do in like in you know, in 0:15:06.441 --> 0:15:08.441 my peak days were just unbelievable. 0:15:08.681 --> 0:15:08.881 Yeah. 0:15:08.921 --> 0:15:10.961 I knew I wanted to do it a long time ago. 0:15:10.961 --> 0:15:12.361 I never tried to go overseas to do it. 0:15:12.401 --> 0:15:12.681 I did. 0:15:12.761 --> 0:15:14.961 I did, Actually, yeah, I did. I went overseas in 0:15:15.001 --> 0:15:18.481 two thousand and seven. I went to America and that 0:15:18.641 --> 0:15:21.241 was two thousand something like that, two thousand and seven, 0:15:21.801 --> 0:15:25.281 pre the the global financial financial crisis. 0:15:25.641 --> 0:15:28.761 And I went to America and I just went, what 0:15:28.801 --> 0:15:29.921 the fuck is this place? 0:15:29.961 --> 0:15:33.321 This place is just like it's like I've never seen 0:15:33.401 --> 0:15:36.361 so many yeah, I just didn't like it. 0:15:36.641 --> 0:15:39.761 I didn't like the vibe. I really didn't like the vibe. 0:15:39.761 --> 0:15:41.641 I didn't like I didn't like. 0:15:42.161 --> 0:15:44.881 You're mister clean, aren't you really? You are? Yeah, you're 0:15:44.881 --> 0:15:48.481 missed the clean. Yeah, like we've seen that you don't 0:15:48.521 --> 0:15:51.681 like to swear. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like you 0:15:51.761 --> 0:15:53.881 like what's his name from fucking Mary Poppins, what's his name? 0:15:53.921 --> 0:15:56.561 The one who sucking Chim Chimity, Chim Jim Jimmy Jim 0:15:56.681 --> 0:15:58.721 Jimmy clean man. 0:15:58.801 --> 0:15:59.641 Yeah, no, it's not that. 0:15:59.761 --> 0:16:03.441 It's just you know, like I I, uh, what's the 0:16:03.481 --> 0:16:06.601 word I like to kind of uh yeah, I just 0:16:06.721 --> 0:16:09.761 like the big conservative mm hmm. 0:16:10.921 --> 0:16:13.201 So then okay, so then this is where we. 0:16:13.241 --> 0:16:14.441 Get the crickets in the background. 0:16:15.881 --> 0:16:18.881 But see, this is this is where I get confused 0:16:18.921 --> 0:16:22.281 with you, all right, because you are mister clean. You 0:16:22.281 --> 0:16:25.561 don't like to swear. No, you don't like to reach. 0:16:25.441 --> 0:16:27.801 Even though even though I just swore, yeah you. 0:16:27.721 --> 0:16:29.441 Know what I mean? Like you you stopped just before 0:16:29.481 --> 0:16:30.961 and said, excuse me, you like you know what I mean? 0:16:31.241 --> 0:16:35.681 Yet you play fucking characters on under Belly and fucking 0:16:35.881 --> 0:16:36.841 Australian Gangster. 0:16:37.321 --> 0:16:40.241 Yeah, it's really weird. Man, it's really weird. 0:16:40.521 --> 0:16:42.321 But see, I guess that's I guess that's just the 0:16:42.361 --> 0:16:43.721 whole point of being an actor. 0:16:44.401 --> 0:16:46.801 But Australian gangster. I counted how many times you sworn 0:16:46.801 --> 0:16:48.361 on that and I fucking message you to say, like. 0:16:49.121 --> 0:16:51.801 Yeah, I know, but look, you know that's that's me acting. 0:16:52.801 --> 0:16:56.361 That's me acting. There's there's a difference between acting and 0:16:56.441 --> 0:16:57.961 just me. You know, that's why I'm. 0:16:58.761 --> 0:17:00.601 This is me. 0:17:00.481 --> 0:17:03.361 I mean, yea, I know that, but like you know, 0:17:03.481 --> 0:17:06.921 when when when you're when you're look, a lot of 0:17:06.961 --> 0:17:09.721 people say that, like I am a pretty clean cut guy. 0:17:09.801 --> 0:17:12.400 I like to be clean cut, big, and that's what 0:17:13.001 --> 0:17:15.201 that's what I think is the beauty of what I do. 0:17:15.561 --> 0:17:18.321 It's not me, but I play it well. 0:17:19.441 --> 0:17:21.521 So tell me about the role on the Belly the 0:17:21.561 --> 0:17:24.921 Golden Mayle. When you got that part, okay, Oh. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.521 That was there was a lot more behind that, was it? Yeah, 0:17:27.561 --> 0:17:29.360 there's a lot more behind that Okay. So when I 0:17:29.481 --> 0:17:31.080 when I were going for the part. 0:17:31.281 --> 0:17:34.801 Absolutely or absolutely I where it was going in for. 0:17:36.961 --> 0:17:40.921 Well, we can honestly say that Harry Hammer is Sam Abraham, 0:17:41.281 --> 0:17:47.441 thank you. Yeah, it's loosely based on Sam Abraham. 0:17:47.441 --> 0:17:48.201 It's Sam Abraham. 0:17:48.321 --> 0:17:49.440 Okay, it's Samy Braham. 0:17:49.481 --> 0:17:51.801 See again, you're being clean, just fucking say it. It's 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:52.561 Sam Abraham. 0:17:52.761 --> 0:17:53.360 You're saying it. 0:17:53.441 --> 0:17:54.761 I'm saying it, you're saying it. 0:17:54.801 --> 0:17:58.041 Okay, if you just give me a second, I'll probably 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:58.481 get there. 0:17:58.761 --> 0:17:59.240 You know what I mean. 0:17:59.241 --> 0:18:02.080 You're going straight because we've got this. We've had this 0:18:02.201 --> 0:18:04.441 dilemma for a few years now, okay, And I knew 0:18:04.481 --> 0:18:05.801 you couldn't say this and that, but. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.840 Okay, so now so now so now it's actually done 0:18:09.921 --> 0:18:12.200 and it's passed. Okay, you can kind of do it 0:18:12.241 --> 0:18:13.480 and with what you know. 0:18:13.561 --> 0:18:14.080 It's true. 0:18:14.561 --> 0:18:17.641 Before I wasn't really kind of allowed to to sort 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:19.441 of like mention that sort of thing. But I think 0:18:19.481 --> 0:18:21.120 it's all out there and people know. 0:18:21.441 --> 0:18:22.961 I think we all know. Yeah, we do. 0:18:23.241 --> 0:18:24.001 And I'll tell you. 0:18:24.001 --> 0:18:28.521 I'll tell you when I when I originally was going 0:18:28.561 --> 0:18:31.600 in for it, Okay, I'm actually was actually kind of 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:32.641 the same way I am now. 0:18:32.721 --> 0:18:34.441 Yeah, And I. 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.761 Remember seeing it come up and I knew it was 0:18:37.801 --> 0:18:40.801 going to be sad because really there was only one one, yeah, 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.640 you know, And as we went on, they had to 0:18:43.721 --> 0:18:46.360 change the change the name due to legal reasons whatever. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:54.401 But and so so I it must have been about oh, 0:18:54.521 --> 0:18:57.561 it would have been a good six to eight months prior. 0:18:57.721 --> 0:19:00.201