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Speaker 1: Approche Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Secrets of the Underworld. I am Neil the

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Speaker 2: Muscle comments and in this episode, I speak to star

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Speaker 2: of Underbelly, Golden Mile Salvatory Coco.

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Speaker 3: There's there's a difference between acting and just me. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's why that's the actor.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's gone regrets one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: We've all got regrets and you're saying I'm saying it,

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Speaker 2: you're saying it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you just give me a second, I'll probably

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Speaker 3: get there before. I wasn't really kind of allowed to

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Speaker 3: mention that sort of thing, but I think it's all

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Speaker 3: out there. When you're in that mindset, when you're constantly

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Speaker 3: in that mindset playing someone's staunch, it uses through your body.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into the nitty gritty.

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Speaker 1: I want to say thank you for coming in an

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Speaker 1: absolute pleasure.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be gentle to the certain certain point.

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Speaker 2: Let's start off with growing up and your childhood and

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Speaker 2: before you get into TV.

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Speaker 3: And okay, so you're you want you want to know

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Speaker 3: about my career and how it all started. I want

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Speaker 3: to know about you growing up first, all right, So

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the suburbs of pretty much the

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Speaker 3: Newtown around Newtown. You know, I was seventy five, kid

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Speaker 3: was seventy five. Italian background, non English speaking, Wow. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so I went to school speaking Italian. I didn't go

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Speaker 3: to school speaking English. So yeah, so it was a

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Speaker 3: very interesting part of growing up when you when you

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Speaker 3: grow up going into a school non eight.

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Speaker 1: Well I did speak English.

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Speaker 3: But more so, like I was more of a I

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Speaker 3: spoke more Italian than anything else.

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Speaker 2: Gibberish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, so it was it was interesting to

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Speaker 3: adjust going back then, if I remember correctly, it was

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Speaker 3: really hard to kind of adjust to sort of like

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Speaker 3: going back home speaking Italian going to school speaking English,

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Speaker 3: you know, and you're get in trouble because you know,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't really, Yeah, it just be because things like

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Speaker 3: learning was hard. It was a hard thing.

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Speaker 1: For me to to to adjust.

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Speaker 2: So you what do you do?

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Speaker 3: You're cheeky. So I was a cheeky one as you

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Speaker 3: can do. You know, when Neil tells me to stop

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Speaker 3: swaying on the chair.

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Speaker 1: What do I do?

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Speaker 2: Don't say?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, looking so growing up in the Newtown area

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Speaker 3: kays away from here, and family was you know, they

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Speaker 3: obviously migrated here from Italy.

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Speaker 1: My dad was an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 3: I did whatever he had to do to put food

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Speaker 3: grew up in a family of properties really at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day. We had fruit shops and things

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Speaker 3: like that. So as a kid, I was always packing,

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Speaker 3: you know, onions.

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Speaker 2: And fucking putting oranges on.

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Speaker 3: And all that stuff, and mushrooms and all that. Now

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Speaker 3: it was good fun, good fun tomatoes and I still

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Speaker 3: remember that. I still remember weighing things as a kid.

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Speaker 3: But but yeah, so I grew up in Newtown, and

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Speaker 1: Opened up.

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Speaker 3: And you know, anytime there was an event, it could

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Speaker 3: be it could have been I don't know, I could

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Speaker 3: have been a festival, it could have been a wedding.

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Speaker 3: There could have been any kind of occasion, you know.

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Speaker 3: So seal Cocoa was always a allion annoying on stage.

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Speaker 3: I'd always I'd be the one, you know, grabbing the

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Speaker 3: jackets or the dress of the entertainers saying I want

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Speaker 3: to sing, I want to sing, I want to sing, and.

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Speaker 1: That's how it all started.

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Speaker 3: And I'm pretty much I started on the on the

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Speaker 3: on the dance floors of reception lounges, and then from

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Speaker 3: there moved on too festivals and the real, the real, uh,

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Speaker 3: long time ago, and I must have been about I

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Speaker 3: must have been about eleven, you know, like three three

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Speaker 3: years into sort of like exploring my talents as a

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Speaker 3: as an artist. There was a performer called John Saint

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Speaker 3: Peter's and John Saint Peter's was the guy. He used

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Speaker 3: to sing, well, summer Town's in wonderworld.

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Speaker 1: You and I was welcome to my anyway.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't know it. You were in the UK. You

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Speaker 3: were a Scouser as a Schnauzer, no Skauser, Skuzer scu.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, he was performing at the Five Dog Festa, and

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Speaker 3: the five Dog Fester back in the day used to

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Speaker 3: be you know where the leisure center is in in

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Speaker 3: in five Dog now Deligious Center. Hear the park, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's where they used to have the festa back in

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Speaker 3: the day. And he was performing and he did actually

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Speaker 3: get some kids on as the closing act, the closing song,

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Speaker 3: and I knew that song back to front like back

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Speaker 3: went for gold. After that, strangely enough, his management, his

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Speaker 3: team pulled me aside and they said, you know, we

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Speaker 3: can see a bit.

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Speaker 1: Of talent here. Like I didn't understand that.

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Speaker 3: I just was like a kid, just you know, but

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Speaker 3: what they call it now nowadays, kids with a D

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Speaker 3: D add DHD in PhD whatever it is. I was

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Speaker 3: one of those kids right anyway, But they didn't diagnose

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Speaker 3: it back then. They just considered as me being cheeky

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Speaker 3: but anyway with a personality. But anyway, so they so

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Speaker 3: the team. The team ended up just sort of like saying,

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Speaker 3: bring you to the to the next level if possible.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, that was my first paying gig. I got twenty

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Speaker 1: bucks for that show. By the way, I got twenty

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Speaker 1: I've actually still I've actually no joke.

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Speaker 2: What no shit, you didn't spend it.

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Speaker 1: No, see, I'm so used to not swearing, but.

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Speaker 3: On a podcast because I need you to just yeah,

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Speaker 3: so no joke. I literally got twenty bucks on what happened.

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Speaker 3: I never forget it. Johnson Peters gave me the money

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Speaker 3: and I went, no, no, no, no, I don't want it,

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Speaker 3: and it was like a bit of a tug of war.

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Speaker 3: I still we ripped it, right, We ripped that twenty dollars, right,

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Speaker 3: and I've still got that twenty dollars on a paper

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Speaker 3: clip with his photo signed. But anyway, what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: It's called memories, okay, me as a kid, would have

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Speaker 3: spent it. No, no, no, I was told by my my,

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Speaker 1: That's that. That's it. Look, look, look how I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh great, anyway, let's move on.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, the good thing is those twenty dollars notes

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Speaker 3: don't exist anymore, so they're probably it's probably worth.

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Speaker 2: More now, so it's not where of jack shit for

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Speaker 2: twenty bucks.

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Speaker 1: Well, you've just killed my whole fucking.

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Speaker 2: Focus.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm going to have to swear now you just

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Speaker 3: killed my whole fucking light there mate, you know anyway, Yes,

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Speaker 3: so still got a freak.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, no, so it was good.

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Speaker 3: It was good to you know, to get them to

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Speaker 3: I learned how to sing. I did a lot of

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Speaker 3: and I said, I want to kind of venture into

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Speaker 3: Telegraph and you know in the US to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Fucking hell, you know, one of those bloody things.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, so I so I said, okay, I'm going

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Speaker 3: going to get part of this. And I signed up

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Speaker 3: It was called King Kids back then, Gala Artists, and

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Speaker 3: I had no money. My parents weren't going to pay

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Speaker 3: how to act, sing and dance. So I ended up Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So I ended up.

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Speaker 1: Doing all those things.

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Speaker 3: Swap Shop.

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Speaker 2: I remember swap Shop in England.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's yeah, that's it. That's actually it shop.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I still remember shooting it at what's the

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Speaker 3: what's the what's the name of the pool on mcmart's

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Speaker 3: McMahon's point, you know the pool where they Luna Park is.

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Speaker 2: I have you kept your paycheck from there too?

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Speaker 1: I kept I kept the patient, but not the paycheck.

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Speaker 1: Smarty pants.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, so from there, So from there, I pretty

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Speaker 1: I was, you're just doing a guest role, but.

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Speaker 2: I did in that country practice Country Practice. And also, yeah, GP,

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Speaker 2: I've seen GP was your first one. Yeah, GP was.

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Speaker 3: Really the semi semi lead role. And I have to

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Speaker 3: I have to give out. I give a massive shout

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Speaker 3: out to Peter Andrew Keats, the director who I never

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Speaker 3: forget saw me. I came in for that one one

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Speaker 3: episode and he just he just had yeah, he just

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Speaker 3: just continued to just ask the writers to bring back.

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Speaker 1: And it was Andrew Kides.

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Speaker 3: But the guy who actually really got me the lead, well,

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Speaker 3: the big big success on Heartbreak High was Peter O'Neil.

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Speaker 1: Not many people know this.

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Speaker 3: Peter O'Neil was one of my drama teachers at Gala Artists, Okay,

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Speaker 3: and he was actually the guy that was teaching me

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Speaker 3: performing arts and stuff like that. Him, Malcolm Frawley and

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Speaker 3: Peter O'Neil was one of the original writers on Heartbreak

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Speaker 3: Just don't bite, don't bite, Just just keep moving, just

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Speaker 1: Just keep going, you know. Yeah. So then now that's

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Speaker 2: That's it was Heartbreak High before country practice or after after.

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Speaker 3: Rats stingers, stingers, fucking all Saints, all sts you.

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Speaker 3: Well, strangely enough, that's actually the truth. They said this

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Speaker 2: What waters?

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Speaker 3: He was a he was you know, he was a

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Speaker 2: And then you then you got the break for Heartbreak High,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was fun. Man, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: This is I know, I know, I knew, I knew

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Speaker 3: Yeah, way before that, I knew that I was going

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Speaker 1: You know, look where we are right now. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: And I went to America and I just went, what

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Speaker 3: This place is just like it's like I've never seen

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Speaker 1: I didn't like the vibe. I really didn't like the vibe.

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Speaker 2: You're mister clean, aren't you really? You are? Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: missed the clean. Yeah, like we've seen that you don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's not that.

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, like I I, uh, what's the

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Speaker 2: But see, this is this is where I get confused

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Speaker 2: don't like to swear. No, you don't like to reach.

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Speaker 1: Even though even though I just swore, yeah you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Like you you stopped just before

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Speaker 2: Yet you play fucking characters on under Belly and fucking

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Speaker 2: Australian Gangster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really weird. Man, it's really weird.

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Speaker 3: But see, I guess that's I guess that's just the

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Speaker 2: But Australian gangster. I counted how many times you sworn

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Speaker 2: This is me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yea, I know that, but like you know,

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Speaker 1: It's not me, but I play it well.

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Speaker 2: So tell me about the role on the Belly the

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Speaker 3: That was there was a lot more behind that, was it? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot more behind that Okay. So when I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely or absolutely I where it was going in for.

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Speaker 3: Well, we can honestly say that Harry Hammer is Sam Abraham,

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Speaker 3: thank you. Yeah, it's loosely based on Sam Abraham.

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Speaker 2: It's Sam Abraham.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's Samy Braham.

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Speaker 2: See again, you're being clean, just fucking say it. It's

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Speaker 2: Sam Abraham.

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Speaker 1: You're saying it.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying it, you're saying it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if you just give me a second, I'll probably

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: You're going straight because we've got this. We've had this

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Speaker 3: Okay, so now so now so now it's actually done

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Speaker 3: Before I wasn't really kind of allowed to to sort

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Speaker 2: I think we all know. Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you.

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Speaker 3: There was something in my in my intuition that was saying,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know I was doing so much more research too.

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Speaker 3: You know, like every time i'd go in for an audition,

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Speaker 2: I used to do. I did the whole I.

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Speaker 1: Used to walk in as him. That's it.

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Speaker 3: It's it was the best thing I've ever done, one

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Speaker 2: And I can't say this because there's been other programs

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Speaker 3: the Cross is great.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, what they did on on Underbelly

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Speaker 2: Because he's played the characters and he's played it to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but not only that, I think also.

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Speaker 3: But not not just me, all of us did, all

443
00:20:44,001 --> 00:20:47,961
Speaker 3: the other actors, you know, even the Coppers Mate, they

444
00:20:47,961 --> 00:20:50,281
Speaker 3: were they were on.

445
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,281
Speaker 2: That effect that like I think we spoke about this before,

446
00:20:53,321 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: but we've done it offline. But it did it affect

447
00:20:56,561 --> 00:21:00,041
Speaker 2: you offset too? Yeah?

448
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,961
Speaker 1: It did. It did.

449
00:21:01,041 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 3: Like when you're when you when you're in that mindset,

450
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:08,201
Speaker 3: when you're constantly in that mindset of like playing someone's staunch.

451
00:21:08,961 --> 00:21:13,281
Speaker 3: It uses through your body. I mean you yourself, you know,

452
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 3: to test or contest to this as well. That when

453
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,401
Speaker 3: your body, if you're constantly thinking I need to stay staunched,

454
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,561
Speaker 3: you become staunch.

455
00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:23,921
Speaker 1: You become staunch, right, And it's.

456
00:21:23,761 --> 00:21:26,521
Speaker 3: Only it's only when you kind of you go, well,

457
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,081
Speaker 3: I've got to remember, hey, I'm at a wedding here.

458
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't do that. And it's interesting.

459
00:21:31,961 --> 00:21:34,321
Speaker 3: When I was playing Sam, I was doing a wedding

460
00:21:34,321 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: at concordor or and and I remember doing the wedding

461
00:21:39,681 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 3: and someone at someone had to pull me back. So

462
00:21:41,441 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: you got to calm down. I'm like, what do you

463
00:21:42,681 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 3: mean not, you gotta calm down, And they said, you

464
00:21:44,761 --> 00:21:46,360
Speaker 3: just you just look like you want to kill somebody.

465
00:21:46,321 --> 00:21:49,561
Speaker 3: I said, well, I am playing somebody that was to

466
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:50,921
Speaker 3: kill somebody. But yeah, you know what I mean.

467
00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:57,001
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it does it does? It does? It does? Yeah?

468
00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 1: Bring d Yeah, it does. It does. It does.

469
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: But after after you stuff and it took a while,

470
00:22:02,001 --> 00:22:03,321
Speaker 2: did it? Yeah, it took a while.

471
00:22:03,321 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: It took about.

472
00:22:04,041 --> 00:22:09,761
Speaker 3: It took me probably about.

473
00:22:07,761 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 2: Because I know a lot of the actors in that

474
00:22:09,921 --> 00:22:14,001
Speaker 2: kept going and going and going and going as that

475
00:22:14,001 --> 00:22:16,961
Speaker 2: that that actor well, well that person not actor, sorry,

476
00:22:17,001 --> 00:22:22,801
Speaker 2: that person, and I think they liked it. And you would,

477
00:22:22,921 --> 00:22:24,441
Speaker 2: you know what I mean if you if you're portraying

478
00:22:24,521 --> 00:22:27,961
Speaker 2: someone who's very well known in the underworld, are very

479
00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: staunch and you can see because even though you're not

480
00:22:32,521 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: that person, you still get that power feeling, you know

481
00:22:37,201 --> 00:22:37,561
Speaker 2: what I mean?

482
00:22:37,761 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I mean that's the thing when you start,

483
00:22:40,481 --> 00:22:44,721
Speaker 3: when you start doing things and you know, you you

484
00:22:44,721 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 3: you take you embody, whatever it is that you're trying

485
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 3: to portray, you know, it's it's in your head, it

486
00:22:51,721 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: becomes you.

487
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:53,281
Speaker 1: You know.

488
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 3: And you know because I used to THEND that I

489
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: was teaching for a while and I tried to explain

490
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: it to the students that you've got to remember you've

491
00:23:01,721 --> 00:23:04,561
Speaker 3: got to separate yourself from what it is that you're

492
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 3: you're pt train to you your two different things. It

493
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 3: can really take it. Yeah, it can go down the

494
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,601
Speaker 3: wrong path if if it's not controlled properly. And thankfully

495
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 3: I got the right I had the right tools to

496
00:23:16,441 --> 00:23:19,201
Speaker 3: kind of get me out of that sort of mindset.

497
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, prize to that that you've you've you've met

498
00:23:24,321 --> 00:23:27,321
Speaker 2: prior to that. Never, so you've never met some Abraham

499
00:23:27,481 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: never to see how you had to? Never?

500
00:23:31,241 --> 00:23:34,801
Speaker 3: Well never, so you just went from what you see. Yeah,

501
00:23:34,921 --> 00:23:37,401
Speaker 3: just and what I've heard. That's all from what I've

502
00:23:37,441 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: seen and what I heard. I've never met him. No,

503
00:23:40,681 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: there was a time I remember, I I I was

504
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,801
Speaker 3: asked if I could, if I would, I can't remember

505
00:23:49,801 --> 00:23:52,681
Speaker 3: if it was production or something like that, and I said, nah,

506
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: that's fine, No I didn't need to, you know what

507
00:23:55,921 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 3: I mean, there was no there was actually no need.

508
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: How did how did they feel filming and the cross

509
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,041
Speaker 2: do and all that shit?

510
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 3: Fantastic? Yeah, fantastic, fantastic. You know, it's you know, it

511
00:24:08,681 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 3: was just before they cleaned it up so much like

512
00:24:11,481 --> 00:24:17,961
Speaker 3: it was like now it's so sterile. Yeah, but yeah, yeah,

513
00:24:17,961 --> 00:24:20,241
Speaker 3: you know it's it was just it's just a buzz.

514
00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: It's just a buzz to kind of be there, just

515
00:24:23,321 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: you know, because you know that was the strip.

516
00:24:25,321 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: That was the strip.

517
00:24:26,001 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, because I think from what I remember,

518
00:24:29,441 --> 00:24:33,281
Speaker 2: the the the launch was at the after party or

519
00:24:33,321 --> 00:24:34,601
Speaker 2: something like that was at then.

520
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: You have the tunnel.

521
00:24:35,201 --> 00:24:35,761
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's correct.

522
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,841
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was at the tunnel. Yeah, it was awesome.

523
00:24:38,961 --> 00:24:39,681
Speaker 3: That was awesome.

524
00:24:40,681 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. It was at the tunnel.

525
00:24:42,241 --> 00:24:44,161
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you there? I was there, I was there

526
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: that man.

527
00:24:44,561 --> 00:24:47,481
Speaker 1: You were there. Yeah, oh yeah, that was a good night.

528
00:24:47,721 --> 00:24:49,481
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we were all looking at you said should

529
00:24:49,481 --> 00:24:50,801
Speaker 2: we show me the real people are?

530
00:24:55,041 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 1: Okay?

531
00:24:56,441 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: Okay, but now I remember that night, but it was

532
00:24:59,721 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: it was it was it hard. Like I was going,

533
00:25:03,041 --> 00:25:07,481
Speaker 2: I say, did anyone approach you? And after the show

534
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,041
Speaker 2: in relation to who you's?

535
00:25:10,241 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: Ah?

536
00:25:10,721 --> 00:25:11,041
Speaker 2: Yeah?

537
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, so you know, you know when

538
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,241
Speaker 3: it was really weird.

539
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,681
Speaker 1: It was really weird. I don't know if I told

540
00:25:19,721 --> 00:25:21,321
Speaker 1: you this story. Do you I tell you this story?

541
00:25:21,441 --> 00:25:22,001
Speaker 2: We haven't told me it?

542
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:28,481
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't mind. So I remember us.

543
00:25:29,761 --> 00:25:32,801
Speaker 3: We just just came, just went on air, right, okay,

544
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I think I had to go

545
00:25:35,001 --> 00:25:39,321
Speaker 3: do an event somewhere in King's Cross and I walked through, right,

546
00:25:39,681 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget the dorman going, Sam, Hey, Sam,

547
00:25:44,681 --> 00:25:46,761
Speaker 3: what what the what the hell?

548
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,561
Speaker 1: That's how good I played him?

549
00:25:49,441 --> 00:25:51,121
Speaker 2: All right, fucking hell, come back to life.

550
00:25:51,321 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's but I'm not joking. That's that's literally

551
00:25:53,921 --> 00:25:54,681
Speaker 3: what was going on.

552
00:25:55,241 --> 00:25:56,241
Speaker 2: They knew who I was.

553
00:25:56,201 --> 00:26:00,321
Speaker 3: But they knew straightaway they could associate it to him,

554
00:26:00,481 --> 00:26:04,321
Speaker 3: you know, And yeah, that's a good feeling, man, that's

555
00:26:04,321 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 3: a really good when you know that, you like, I

556
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: put my heart and soul into it, you know, I

557
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,761
Speaker 3: put my heart and soul into it.

558
00:26:10,801 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: I put everything I could into it, you know.

559
00:26:12,561 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: And I didn't want to I didn't like even so,

560
00:26:16,281 --> 00:26:18,921
Speaker 3: like going back to what we're talking about, the last

561
00:26:18,961 --> 00:26:21,001
Speaker 3: King of the Cross, right, and if you see the

562
00:26:21,001 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: transition with with Sam Ibrahim when he's like in his

563
00:26:25,681 --> 00:26:27,961
Speaker 3: younger days and he had longer hair, so now he's

564
00:26:27,961 --> 00:26:33,161
Speaker 3: got that Caesar haircut. I were in under Belly when

565
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,761
Speaker 3: we were when we're when we were getting to that

566
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,241
Speaker 3: stages where where Sam goes into the bike is right.

567
00:26:41,921 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: You know, I actually asked the producers please let me

568
00:26:45,721 --> 00:26:49,241
Speaker 3: get the Caesar. Let me yeah, please let me get

569
00:26:49,281 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 3: because that was the George Michael look, do you remember,

570
00:26:51,441 --> 00:26:53,281
Speaker 3: And I said please, please please, and.

571
00:26:53,241 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: They said, no, we can't let you do that.

572
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: But I was I really want I wanted to do

573
00:26:58,001 --> 00:27:01,841
Speaker 3: the whole the whole transition because I remember I remember

574
00:27:01,961 --> 00:27:04,561
Speaker 3: like reading a lot of that stuff, and you know,

575
00:27:04,681 --> 00:27:06,281
Speaker 3: I want to to do that. But you know they

576
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,321
Speaker 3: did actually capture that in the Last King of the Cross. Yeah,

577
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: which is good, you know, because I think that was

578
00:27:11,201 --> 00:27:15,041
Speaker 3: quite honest to what was going on, you know, in

579
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:20,001
Speaker 3: the whole let's just say the storyline of the Ibrahim's

580
00:27:20,041 --> 00:27:22,921
Speaker 3: at that stage. Yeah, I have to say, I got

581
00:27:22,921 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: to be honest with you. I have to say the

582
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,281
Speaker 3: second series for me of The Last King of the Cross,

583
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,961
Speaker 3: when we're talking about episode four, five, six, and seven

584
00:27:30,001 --> 00:27:30,561
Speaker 3: and eight.

585
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: I loved it. Are we talk about what were we

586
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,681
Speaker 1: talk about the Last King of the Cross.

587
00:27:34,481 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: One that's on now, Yeah, I love it it.

588
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: The last bit when Mike, when Michael, when Michael Kanan

589
00:27:40,801 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: comes in and all they not Michael Kanan, Michael Abraham

590
00:27:44,041 --> 00:27:44,761
Speaker 3: comes in and stuff.

591
00:27:44,801 --> 00:27:47,281
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it.

592
00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:50,961
Speaker 2: Because I'm trying to think what you loved.

593
00:27:51,201 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: No, I just thought I thought the performances were good. Yeah,

594
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 3: I'm talking about performances. I thought I thought the guys

595
00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:00,201
Speaker 3: had done a really good job. They really found their feet. Then,

596
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: you know, I actually I actually messaged one of the directors,

597
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:06,321
Speaker 3: Ian Watson, and.

598
00:28:06,321 --> 00:28:08,081
Speaker 1: Said, what mate, you nailed it.

599
00:28:08,201 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: You nailed it.

600
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, in regards to the direction, I loved it.

601
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,201
Speaker 2: What direction? Was there? One direction?

602
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Not one direction.

603
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying the direction because I looked at that,

604
00:28:18,521 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: and as I've just said before, now you're going to

605
00:28:20,961 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: make me get in a debate here, because.

606
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,801
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. That's what we're here for.

607
00:28:24,801 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: If not a debate, we're talking about your fucking life.

608
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Under Belly the Golden Mile told a story which was

609
00:28:31,241 --> 00:28:38,401
Speaker 2: virtually true, virtually true. Last King of the Cross. I'm lost.

610
00:28:38,761 --> 00:28:42,561
Speaker 2: I'm fucking lost with the storyline. Look and don't try,

611
00:28:42,561 --> 00:28:44,561
Speaker 2: and don't you did?

612
00:28:44,721 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: I can't.

613
00:28:45,281 --> 00:28:48,161
Speaker 2: I'm lost because I don't know half the ship that

614
00:28:48,241 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: in this what's happened?

615
00:28:49,241 --> 00:28:53,161
Speaker 1: But he's only supposed to be non fiction.

616
00:28:53,841 --> 00:28:58,081
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I tell a story. Then, okay, I'm not

617
00:28:58,081 --> 00:28:59,601
Speaker 2: going to get in this debate because I'm you know

618
00:28:59,601 --> 00:28:59,961
Speaker 2: what I mean.

619
00:29:00,841 --> 00:29:01,801
Speaker 1: I guess that's what it is.

620
00:29:01,841 --> 00:29:03,681
Speaker 2: I mean, we all know we're trying to sell a

621
00:29:03,721 --> 00:29:06,641
Speaker 2: TV show. Yeah overseas. We all know we're trying to

622
00:29:06,641 --> 00:29:10,761
Speaker 2: get viewers. Because the problem with Underbelly was it was

623
00:29:10,761 --> 00:29:13,921
Speaker 2: only shown on local TV. I never hit anywhere else,

624
00:29:13,921 --> 00:29:14,361
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

625
00:29:14,441 --> 00:29:15,121
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

626
00:29:15,241 --> 00:29:17,921
Speaker 2: Okay, So this one was to sell Netflix or fucking

627
00:29:17,921 --> 00:29:21,921
Speaker 2: where it's going to go overseas. But I'm lost with

628
00:29:21,961 --> 00:29:22,561
Speaker 2: the storyline.

629
00:29:23,401 --> 00:29:25,161
Speaker 1: I have to be very honest with you.

630
00:29:25,441 --> 00:29:28,241
Speaker 3: In series one, I didn't know what the hell was

631
00:29:28,281 --> 00:29:30,241
Speaker 3: going on. I don't know who was who, what was what.

632
00:29:30,521 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: I didn't watch season one at all because I was

633
00:29:32,721 --> 00:29:35,321
Speaker 2: lost after ten minutes. Yeah, you do get a little.

634
00:29:35,401 --> 00:29:36,681
Speaker 1: But season two is much better.

635
00:29:36,801 --> 00:29:40,401
Speaker 2: Season two I watched because I just thought, well, let's

636
00:29:40,401 --> 00:29:42,121
Speaker 2: go go with the ride because I don't know where

637
00:29:42,121 --> 00:29:45,401
Speaker 2: we're going. But anyway, but.

638
00:29:46,121 --> 00:29:47,761
Speaker 1: That's but that's television, you know what I mean.

639
00:29:47,801 --> 00:29:50,841
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess I thought I was watching John Wick,

640
00:29:52,201 --> 00:29:57,441
Speaker 2: John Wick. Yeah, John Wick or fucking Ramber. I'm telling

641
00:29:57,481 --> 00:30:00,321
Speaker 2: you the truth, Brom. Being honest, I thought I was

642
00:30:00,361 --> 00:30:03,641
Speaker 2: watching There's There was more fucking ship in that season

643
00:30:04,241 --> 00:30:05,481
Speaker 2: than John Wig Scot.

644
00:30:05,681 --> 00:30:09,961
Speaker 3: I love it, and I just went wig anyway. Yeah,

645
00:30:10,161 --> 00:30:12,241
Speaker 3: back to you, going back to me, So, when when.

646
00:30:12,081 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: You finished filming, did it affect your next role on

647
00:30:15,481 --> 00:30:17,921
Speaker 2: your on a on a on a TV show. No, No,

648
00:30:18,161 --> 00:30:18,561
Speaker 2: you can just.

649
00:30:18,641 --> 00:30:22,801
Speaker 3: Change because straight after that it took a bit of time.

650
00:30:22,841 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: But then after that I went into playing a copper

651
00:30:25,441 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: in Catching My Latt the Story of My Lad and

652
00:30:28,281 --> 00:30:32,281
Speaker 3: then from my lad. I went to playing Peanut in

653
00:30:32,721 --> 00:30:35,521
Speaker 3: the Peter Brock story, and then from the Peter Brock story,

654
00:30:36,081 --> 00:30:40,521
Speaker 3: I did something else that I good, fruit change and

655
00:30:40,521 --> 00:30:42,241
Speaker 3: the rest of it. No, I did the Secret Daughter.

656
00:30:42,601 --> 00:30:44,321
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, I did the Secret Daughter.

657
00:30:44,441 --> 00:30:46,481
Speaker 1: Then I did Sea Change, and then from Sea Change

658
00:30:46,481 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: I went into Home and Away.

659
00:30:48,001 --> 00:30:49,361
Speaker 2: Oh you missed Australian gangster.

660
00:30:49,641 --> 00:30:53,121
Speaker 3: And again against my apologies, yeah, straining gangster, Australian gangster,

661
00:30:53,241 --> 00:30:54,521
Speaker 3: Sholian gangster, another one.

662
00:30:55,241 --> 00:30:57,241
Speaker 2: I actually thought your role and that was actually better

663
00:30:57,281 --> 00:30:59,881
Speaker 2: than what you did in an Underbelly only just the

664
00:30:59,921 --> 00:31:02,921
Speaker 2: fact is that was a you that I've never seen

665
00:31:02,961 --> 00:31:08,161
Speaker 2: before on a on a TV show, which playing us.

666
00:31:08,281 --> 00:31:11,121
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's interesting.

667
00:31:10,881 --> 00:31:14,521
Speaker 2: Because even though you played Sam Abraham very good, this

668
00:31:14,761 --> 00:31:17,721
Speaker 2: was a different you where and I remember the text

669
00:31:17,721 --> 00:31:21,321
Speaker 2: messages I'll be sending you like, you know, a line

670
00:31:21,361 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: of co what the fuck you do? Like you're the

671
00:31:25,281 --> 00:31:27,121
Speaker 2: type of person to say to the producer on a

672
00:31:27,161 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: TV I'm doing that. No, No, I'm not doing that, bro,

673
00:31:29,681 --> 00:31:31,241
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And you did it. It's

674
00:31:31,281 --> 00:31:32,841
Speaker 2: like fucking hell, go for gold.

675
00:31:33,521 --> 00:31:37,441
Speaker 1: Well, that's what that gets about. That's that's that's I'm

676
00:31:37,481 --> 00:31:39,081
Speaker 1: gonna take you on a Saturday nights out more often

677
00:31:41,921 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: maybe this weekend.

678
00:31:44,121 --> 00:31:48,441
Speaker 2: But and then you know, you're just a different way

679
00:31:48,481 --> 00:31:51,041
Speaker 2: of the way you're acting in this Like I've never

680
00:31:51,081 --> 00:31:53,241
Speaker 2: seen you swear so much in a TV show. I've

681
00:31:53,241 --> 00:31:55,601
Speaker 2: never seen you go out of your comfort zone so much,

682
00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:56,681
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And that.

683
00:31:56,841 --> 00:31:59,881
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's that's what that's what was. That was

684
00:31:59,881 --> 00:32:03,841
Speaker 3: was was was needed. Yeah, you know, that's what was.

685
00:32:03,881 --> 00:32:06,761
Speaker 3: That's what I think was well personally, that you enjoying

686
00:32:06,801 --> 00:32:10,361
Speaker 3: that role. Oh yeah more than well, no way, I

687
00:32:10,441 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: still enjoyed doing oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the

688
00:32:12,761 --> 00:32:14,881
Speaker 3: reason is is because I was working with some really

689
00:32:14,881 --> 00:32:17,361
Speaker 3: good people too. You know the great thing about the

690
00:32:17,481 --> 00:32:19,801
Speaker 3: training Gangster. I know you're going to go, oh yeah,

691
00:32:19,841 --> 00:32:23,041
Speaker 3: I'm softening it up, mate. I've been pretty blessed, right,

692
00:32:23,121 --> 00:32:25,401
Speaker 3: I've been very blessed. At a lot of the times.

693
00:32:25,441 --> 00:32:27,921
Speaker 3: The people that I work with are just being like

694
00:32:28,041 --> 00:32:31,041
Speaker 3: down to earth, down to earth, and we're all there

695
00:32:31,201 --> 00:32:33,841
Speaker 3: for a common purpose, just to do the best we

696
00:32:33,921 --> 00:32:38,161
Speaker 3: possibly can. You generally find that I generally find that

697
00:32:38,241 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the stuff that I have been lucky

698
00:32:40,281 --> 00:32:44,241
Speaker 3: enough to have done, we are we are very creative

699
00:32:44,321 --> 00:32:46,801
Speaker 3: kind of people, and we just really want to do

700
00:32:46,841 --> 00:32:49,681
Speaker 3: the best we can. I treat every job like it's

701
00:32:49,681 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 3: my last, and that's it. You know, I haven't actually

702
00:32:52,481 --> 00:32:54,161
Speaker 3: worked for five years, to be honest with you, So

703
00:32:54,401 --> 00:32:56,361
Speaker 3: the last thing I did was was Home and Away.

704
00:32:56,361 --> 00:32:59,121
Speaker 1: I haven't worked for five years, and I treat that job.

705
00:32:59,681 --> 00:33:01,321
Speaker 2: What have you been doing lining up at centially?

706
00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:03,361
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like that?

707
00:33:05,161 --> 00:33:08,921
Speaker 3: Yeah so yeah, I've been my weddings of that. But yeah,

708
00:33:09,001 --> 00:33:12,161
Speaker 3: so but like I put everything I possibly could in

709
00:33:12,561 --> 00:33:16,361
Speaker 3: playing Dimitipoulos, which is you know, he was in Home

710
00:33:16,401 --> 00:33:18,281
Speaker 3: and Away a while back and he came back again,

711
00:33:18,761 --> 00:33:20,681
Speaker 3: and I treat it as if my last gig.

712
00:33:20,721 --> 00:33:21,561
Speaker 1: You know, that's it.

713
00:33:22,321 --> 00:33:23,281
Speaker 2: Did you like coming a week?

714
00:33:23,561 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?

715
00:33:24,441 --> 00:33:27,161
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'll tell you why I liked Home and Away.

716
00:33:27,961 --> 00:33:30,681
Speaker 3: Everyone turns their nose up at Home and Away, right,

717
00:33:30,761 --> 00:33:33,601
Speaker 3: and they go away the stupid solid lines. They always

718
00:33:33,601 --> 00:33:35,921
Speaker 3: say the same things. But I'll tell you what if

719
00:33:35,961 --> 00:33:40,361
Speaker 3: you actually put yourself there and see what those guys

720
00:33:40,441 --> 00:33:45,561
Speaker 3: go through like for one week, right, you would literally

721
00:33:45,921 --> 00:33:50,401
Speaker 3: you just you'd fall down with exhaustion, being exhausted, kind

722
00:33:50,401 --> 00:33:53,721
Speaker 3: of save the bloody word, right. The reason is they

723
00:33:53,761 --> 00:33:56,401
Speaker 3: are doing like literally from five o'clock in the morn

724
00:33:56,481 --> 00:33:58,761
Speaker 3: or some Not only that, but they're doing like five

725
00:33:58,881 --> 00:34:03,641
Speaker 3: to six s grips in one hit. Like one minute

726
00:34:03,681 --> 00:34:06,801
Speaker 3: they're like script number six, and then the next minute

727
00:34:06,801 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: there's script number one. Next day there is script number two.

728
00:34:10,081 --> 00:34:12,521
Speaker 3: They're coming back to script number six. Like you just

729
00:34:12,521 --> 00:34:14,561
Speaker 3: they're just over the place, you know, do you know

730
00:34:14,561 --> 00:34:18,641
Speaker 3: what I mean? Like I'm not the exact that they're once, Yeah,

731
00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 3: but they're just from They're like from here to there.

732
00:34:22,081 --> 00:34:24,081
Speaker 3: Then they're coming back and they're going there. They're going

733
00:34:24,121 --> 00:34:26,801
Speaker 3: here and they're going there. Myself being you know, like

734
00:34:26,921 --> 00:34:29,121
Speaker 3: just a guest you that's coming in, right, I can

735
00:34:29,161 --> 00:34:31,441
Speaker 3: have my stuff prepared, But can you imagine doing that

736
00:34:31,561 --> 00:34:33,881
Speaker 3: for five Like some of those guys have been doing it.

737
00:34:33,801 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: For how many years?

738
00:34:34,561 --> 00:34:34,721
Speaker 2: Yeah?

739
00:34:35,201 --> 00:34:38,601
Speaker 1: Ten years? No wonder why they run around like like.

740
00:34:38,601 --> 00:34:41,841
Speaker 3: Crazy because they're just where are you supposed to be? Like,

741
00:34:42,121 --> 00:34:43,841
Speaker 3: how do you keep tabs of the character?

742
00:34:43,961 --> 00:34:44,361
Speaker 1: You can't?

743
00:34:44,921 --> 00:34:47,881
Speaker 2: You just can't name of your top three shows that

744
00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:51,921
Speaker 2: you've done, the top three of everything you've done, namely

745
00:34:52,041 --> 00:34:53,801
Speaker 2: your first to second to third.

746
00:34:54,081 --> 00:34:56,161
Speaker 1: I can't, Yes she can, I can't, Yes she can

747
00:34:56,281 --> 00:34:56,721
Speaker 1: I can't.

748
00:34:57,561 --> 00:34:58,041
Speaker 2: Yeah you can.

749
00:34:58,121 --> 00:35:00,241
Speaker 1: I can't because they're all unique in their own way.

750
00:35:00,721 --> 00:35:04,521
Speaker 3: Just name you, man, you know what I'm going to

751
00:35:04,561 --> 00:35:06,081
Speaker 3: go with the Let me just let me just let

752
00:35:06,081 --> 00:35:09,321
Speaker 3: me just say, right, you cannot name the top three

753
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:12,761
Speaker 3: that doesn't exist because each role has its own unique thing.

754
00:35:13,001 --> 00:35:14,761
Speaker 2: You must have a favor.

755
00:35:14,761 --> 00:35:17,881
Speaker 3: You don't walk the talk, Joey Grasso. I can tell

756
00:35:17,921 --> 00:35:22,881
Speaker 3: you Sam Ibrahim or Harry Hammer in Underbelly, Peanut, the

757
00:35:23,401 --> 00:35:27,561
Speaker 3: Peter Brock Story, fantastic playing Leser lies in Straining gangsty

758
00:35:27,641 --> 00:35:29,801
Speaker 3: That's just that when I was I did something with.

759
00:35:30,761 --> 00:35:32,401
Speaker 2: The rest of you're all dead in so well, they

760
00:35:32,401 --> 00:35:36,561
Speaker 2: can't be that one's so you're playing the dead person

761
00:35:36,681 --> 00:35:37,041
Speaker 2: most of them.

762
00:35:37,041 --> 00:35:38,641
Speaker 1: You said at the start, Yeah, I know, but you

763
00:35:38,641 --> 00:35:39,521
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I.

764
00:35:39,481 --> 00:35:42,321
Speaker 2: Reckon to me my top three? Yeah, go okay for

765
00:35:42,401 --> 00:35:47,521
Speaker 2: you hit me up? Would be Sam Abraham first. Well,

766
00:35:47,521 --> 00:35:49,121
Speaker 2: if you say one hundred percent, why couldn't you tell

767
00:35:49,161 --> 00:35:49,481
Speaker 2: me that?

768
00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:52,201
Speaker 3: But because I agree with you, I agree with you,

769
00:35:52,241 --> 00:35:53,961
Speaker 3: but I don't agree that it's the top three.

770
00:35:54,321 --> 00:36:02,801
Speaker 2: I can't. I would say either Brock or Catching My Lap.

771
00:36:03,521 --> 00:36:07,201
Speaker 1: No, but what about Comboardino? He was great? You know

772
00:36:07,241 --> 00:36:07,641
Speaker 1: what I mean?

773
00:36:07,721 --> 00:36:09,401
Speaker 2: I don't know what I said, heartbreak high because that

774
00:36:09,521 --> 00:36:11,121
Speaker 2: made you.

775
00:36:11,121 --> 00:36:13,281
Speaker 3: You see what I mean, Neil, You can't just say

776
00:36:13,321 --> 00:36:16,401
Speaker 3: the top three, man, My I'm not trying to I'm

777
00:36:16,401 --> 00:36:17,521
Speaker 3: not trying to fucking boast.

778
00:36:17,561 --> 00:36:18,561
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to boast. Man.

779
00:36:18,561 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, man, my career

780
00:36:20,001 --> 00:36:21,921
Speaker 3: goes for thirty years. Do you how do you put

781
00:36:21,921 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: it down to the top three?

782
00:36:23,081 --> 00:36:24,561
Speaker 1: You just can't. You can't.

783
00:36:25,121 --> 00:36:30,201
Speaker 3: It's impossible sorting to be a hot shot. But that's

784
00:36:30,241 --> 00:36:32,081
Speaker 3: the reality of it, you know, is.

785
00:36:32,001 --> 00:36:34,121
Speaker 2: There is there a TV show you've never been on

786
00:36:34,121 --> 00:36:35,921
Speaker 2: that you've loved to be on? Is that ever being

787
00:36:35,961 --> 00:36:37,761
Speaker 2: a TV show that you've seen and you've gone, Fuck,

788
00:36:37,801 --> 00:36:39,201
Speaker 2: I'd love to be on that. Why can't I get

789
00:36:39,241 --> 00:36:40,361
Speaker 2: on that? I want to get on that.

790
00:36:40,841 --> 00:36:44,321
Speaker 3: Missed in Between. That's a great one. Anyone that's listening

791
00:36:44,321 --> 00:36:46,521
Speaker 3: to this, check it out. Missed in Between. That was

792
00:36:46,721 --> 00:36:48,041
Speaker 3: really really good.

793
00:36:48,881 --> 00:36:50,641
Speaker 2: Okay, The Magician.

794
00:36:50,481 --> 00:36:53,481
Speaker 1: It's actually it's actually ah, yes, it was.

795
00:36:53,681 --> 00:36:56,841
Speaker 3: It's a it's the longer version of the short film

796
00:36:56,881 --> 00:36:58,081
Speaker 3: The Magician Out.

797
00:36:58,121 --> 00:36:59,841
Speaker 1: It was good. He was really really good in that.

798
00:37:00,441 --> 00:37:02,961
Speaker 1: The whole, the whole, the whole, Oh is it?

799
00:37:03,121 --> 00:37:05,361
Speaker 3: Which Edgon was what I can't remember which editing was,

800
00:37:05,601 --> 00:37:07,401
Speaker 3: is it Nash, Yeah, one of the two.

801
00:37:07,761 --> 00:37:10,881
Speaker 1: When they directed it, it was fantastic.

802
00:37:10,841 --> 00:37:14,121
Speaker 2: Actor or theater work like which on stage or.

803
00:37:16,761 --> 00:37:21,521
Speaker 3: Financially you definitely go film and television, but like you

804
00:37:21,601 --> 00:37:25,401
Speaker 3: know what you prefer, I do like I do like

805
00:37:25,481 --> 00:37:26,441
Speaker 3: television and film.

806
00:37:27,601 --> 00:37:28,721
Speaker 2: Yeah. Like doing live?

807
00:37:29,161 --> 00:37:30,761
Speaker 3: No, I love doing live, but I do live all

808
00:37:30,801 --> 00:37:34,201
Speaker 3: the time. Like just like, honestly, being at weddings is theater.

809
00:37:35,321 --> 00:37:38,121
Speaker 3: It's you might get it's not it's a wedding, trust me,

810
00:37:38,241 --> 00:37:38,721
Speaker 3: it's theater.

811
00:37:39,001 --> 00:37:40,921
Speaker 2: So you like hosting more than anything. You like to

812
00:37:40,921 --> 00:37:42,041
Speaker 2: be a host, I don't.

813
00:37:42,841 --> 00:37:46,121
Speaker 3: Look, I just love to entertain. That's a That's my

814
00:37:46,241 --> 00:37:49,961
Speaker 3: honest answer. I love to entertain. I like anyone that

815
00:37:50,041 --> 00:37:53,081
Speaker 3: sees me. Like on Saturday, I did a very small

816
00:37:53,601 --> 00:37:56,761
Speaker 3: local business that were just promoting an Italian theme and

817
00:37:56,801 --> 00:37:59,561
Speaker 3: I was there part of it, you know, hosting it, singing,

818
00:37:59,801 --> 00:38:03,801
Speaker 3: doing this, doing that, and I just love I just

819
00:38:03,961 --> 00:38:06,401
Speaker 3: love making people happy.

820
00:38:06,521 --> 00:38:06,801
Speaker 1: You know.

821
00:38:07,201 --> 00:38:09,601
Speaker 3: Do I like hosting presenting? Yeah, I do, of course

822
00:38:09,601 --> 00:38:12,241
Speaker 3: I do. But I just also like making people feel great.

823
00:38:12,681 --> 00:38:14,681
Speaker 1: I just do it. I just love it. I love it.

824
00:38:14,681 --> 00:38:16,281
Speaker 3: A lot of people say it. You can see it.

825
00:38:16,681 --> 00:38:19,041
Speaker 3: I'm not just saying it. People actually say, you can

826
00:38:19,081 --> 00:38:19,521
Speaker 3: see that.

827
00:38:19,481 --> 00:38:20,841
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of love for what you do.

828
00:38:20,921 --> 00:38:21,121
Speaker 2: I do.

829
00:38:21,201 --> 00:38:24,001
Speaker 1: I love it. I absolutely love it. I love it.

830
00:38:24,041 --> 00:38:27,121
Speaker 3: I love I love the fact that you know, there

831
00:38:27,121 --> 00:38:30,321
Speaker 3: could be someone on the table and and they you know,

832
00:38:30,401 --> 00:38:33,081
Speaker 3: they're just they just feel you know, just they're not.

833
00:38:33,921 --> 00:38:35,761
Speaker 3: You can feel a vibe, and the ViBe's a little

834
00:38:35,801 --> 00:38:38,001
Speaker 3: bit and I just bring them to another level and

835
00:38:38,041 --> 00:38:39,641
Speaker 3: when they walking out the same thank you.

836
00:38:40,001 --> 00:38:41,721
Speaker 1: You know, I think that was a really good night,

837
00:38:41,801 --> 00:38:42,001
Speaker 1: you know.

838
00:38:42,081 --> 00:38:44,321
Speaker 3: I just love that, whether or not that's you know,

839
00:38:44,361 --> 00:38:47,001
Speaker 3: in between in front of a camera, present into a camera,

840
00:38:47,041 --> 00:38:49,801
Speaker 3: because you can actually make someone feel great in front

841
00:38:49,801 --> 00:38:50,641
Speaker 3: of a camera.

842
00:38:50,681 --> 00:38:54,041
Speaker 1: You can, you know, or whether or not face to face.

843
00:38:54,601 --> 00:38:56,081
Speaker 1: I just love it. I love entertainment.

844
00:38:56,441 --> 00:38:56,801
Speaker 2: Regrets.

845
00:38:57,121 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: Everybody's got regrets, one hundred percent. We've all got regrets. Yeah,

846
00:39:01,041 --> 00:39:02,881
Speaker 3: I probably have to say. There was a time I

847
00:39:03,001 --> 00:39:06,921
Speaker 3: was offered a big contract on Home and Away to

848
00:39:07,001 --> 00:39:11,281
Speaker 3: come on as Dmitry Pulos and and I didn't take

849
00:39:11,321 --> 00:39:12,481
Speaker 3: that on How.

850
00:39:12,361 --> 00:39:14,041
Speaker 2: Long it was that when you were doing it all

851
00:39:14,121 --> 00:39:14,481
Speaker 2: before that?

852
00:39:14,561 --> 00:39:16,921
Speaker 3: No, that was that was just after I finished Heartbreak

853
00:39:17,001 --> 00:39:19,881
Speaker 3: High and I was going to come on to do

854
00:39:20,161 --> 00:39:22,441
Speaker 3: a big stint, and I didn't do it because I

855
00:39:22,521 --> 00:39:26,321
Speaker 3: decided that I needed to find going back to you know,

856
00:39:26,601 --> 00:39:29,361
Speaker 3: to me or you're a chef by trade. I decided,

857
00:39:29,521 --> 00:39:31,641
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to sacrifice this and get

858
00:39:31,641 --> 00:39:32,521
Speaker 3: myself a trade.

859
00:39:32,921 --> 00:39:35,721
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't do it. But I actually had it.

860
00:39:35,801 --> 00:39:38,281
Speaker 1: I had the opportunity many many years.

861
00:39:38,041 --> 00:39:41,441
Speaker 3: Ago to do that. That's probably one of my biggest regrets.

862
00:39:41,441 --> 00:39:42,561
Speaker 2: Describe yourself in one word.

863
00:39:43,041 --> 00:39:45,321
Speaker 1: Fun So what was the future hole for mister cell

864
00:39:45,521 --> 00:39:46,601
Speaker 1: who bloody knows.

865
00:39:46,801 --> 00:39:48,681
Speaker 2: You don't know. I got to find you a job, bro.

866
00:39:49,001 --> 00:39:50,641
Speaker 3: You know, in that time that I told you that

867
00:39:50,801 --> 00:39:56,961
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't accept that agreement for home and away.

868
00:39:57,841 --> 00:40:01,241
Speaker 3: There was a time that I really didn't work like

869
00:40:01,521 --> 00:40:08,121
Speaker 3: a lot for about say a years. And you know

870
00:40:09,001 --> 00:40:12,441
Speaker 3: it will come. I've been around for a long time,

871
00:40:12,681 --> 00:40:15,521
Speaker 3: all right. I don't plan to go anywhere. I'll stick around.

872
00:40:15,881 --> 00:40:16,201
Speaker 1: I've been.

873
00:40:16,281 --> 00:40:19,121
Speaker 3: I've been auditioning for heaps of things, you know, I

874
00:40:19,241 --> 00:40:21,841
Speaker 3: just don't land them. Whether or not it's because I'm

875
00:40:21,921 --> 00:40:24,321
Speaker 3: not right for the role. Whatever it is, I don't know,

876
00:40:24,521 --> 00:40:27,041
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. You know, I'm going to be around.

877
00:40:27,041 --> 00:40:29,801
Speaker 3: I'm not going nowhere. I'm not going nowhere. I'll be

878
00:40:29,841 --> 00:40:31,801
Speaker 3: around for a while. I'm not going nowhere.

879
00:40:31,961 --> 00:40:33,521
Speaker 2: I know, you know, you're fucking annoying. Come.

880
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have it any other way. No, but you know, man,

881
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Speaker 1: I just love it.

882
00:40:42,001 --> 00:40:43,921
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, thanks for coming on.

883
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Speaker 3: An absolute pleasure, And I just got to say, it's

884
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Speaker 3: great to see mister Neil Cummings like in the success

885
00:40:48,841 --> 00:40:50,681
Speaker 3: that he's got with the Secrets of the Underworld.

886
00:40:50,881 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: Going back how many years ago? Was it? Two years ago? Three?

887
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Speaker 3: When we started twenty twenty right, and look at that

888
00:40:57,801 --> 00:41:00,881
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four years ladies own little studio right here

889
00:41:00,961 --> 00:41:01,641
Speaker 3: at Nova.

890
00:41:01,681 --> 00:41:03,681
Speaker 1: I love it. It's the best, it's the best. It's

891
00:41:03,681 --> 00:41:04,241
Speaker 1: good to see u.

892
00:41:04,521 --> 00:41:05,801
Speaker 2: Thanks being everywhere.

893
00:41:07,881 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: You know, the man, the man that used to keep

894
00:41:09,481 --> 00:41:11,841
Speaker 1: swaying to the general of Tongue. Nah, I'm not anyone,

895
00:41:11,881 --> 00:41:14,041
Speaker 1: all right, Neil, thanks so much. I appreciate it, all right.

896
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Speaker 3: Yeah, h m hm