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Speaker 1: And when you get the premiere on gladys borogeekally and

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Speaker 1: You know, the schedule that she.

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Speaker 2: Has every day, Lady back to madness, and I mean

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Speaker 2: I wonder what time she gets to bed too, Gladys.

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Speaker 3: Can she sleep though?

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Speaker 2: I mean you do the call stop?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe we'll ask her that. What's her sleeping pattern?

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Speaker 2: Like what does she do before bed? Does she do

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Speaker 2: she watch some TV TikTok you know, uploads a dance video?

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Speaker 1: Does she well, you know, we need to ask front

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Speaker 1: page of the paper today they're talking reopening days going

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Speaker 1: to be October eighteen, which is a Monday, not the

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Speaker 1: glad but we have her right now, Gladys very deeply

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Speaker 1: and welcome, Welcome Gladas, Hi body, Gladys.

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Speaker 2: Before we get onto the formal stuff, we're just chatting

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Speaker 2: about what you actually do in the evening. What time

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Speaker 1: Hens? Do you get much sleep, Gladdys? Like what are

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Speaker 1: you averaging o'clock?

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Speaker 3: Not a lot, but enough enough because it's really important

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Speaker 3: clear decisions. So enough, what do you.

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Speaker 2: Do before bed, gladys.

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Speaker 3: I normally do something like watch bad TV or read

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Speaker 3: read something. Yeah, try trying to one down here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just trying to switch off, I think to exciting.

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Speaker 1: Okay. The front page of the paper today reopening day

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Speaker 1: is October eighteen, So is that true? Is this locked

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Speaker 3: Start to reopen when we hit seventy percent double doses, right,

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Speaker 3: So we've been saying, yeah, well, we've been saying it's

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Speaker 3: that gives all of us greater protection. So we will obviously,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, Gladys, because yesterday and it's funny with

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Speaker 3: Bit exactly, because they're down to around sixty percent. So

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Speaker 3: obviously places in western and southwestern Sydney going great guns.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think as time moves on, all the state

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Speaker 1: Yep, Gladys, we get to a certain point and we

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Speaker 3: Which is exactly where we need to get.

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Speaker 2: It's it's nice to think that we can consider us,

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Speaker 2: hoping that those dates can be open. Is there a

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Speaker 3: Bit of a kiss well, I would like to. Can

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Speaker 3: I be honest? I want to firstly is it my parents?

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Speaker 3: And my sisters? And then I want to get it there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, understand, you're doing an amazing job. How are we

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Speaker 1: going today? Apple? Down? Glad?

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Speaker 3: I've given away a lot on your program already. Pressure

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