1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Better than the legal, better than Lego. 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: Coop. 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: I can't remember a time where there's been so many 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: great players and players who are so important to their 5 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 3: sides that are sitting on the sideline, some in short 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: period like Nico expected back this week, Mitchell Moors expected back. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: But so many clearly Tom Travoyevitch and Kale and so on, 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: and so it just keeps going. 9 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Rep season coming around too, said, those players 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 4: would have played and they be affected in terms of 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 4: New South Wales and Queensland. Interesting part is for me, 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: look what like Penrith have done. Like Penrith haven't got 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 4: through their three premierships on scale, They've had a nighth 14 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: out of different stages. Jerome had that injury. So it's 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: almost like if you want to win the camp, you 16 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 4: can't have the best seventeen and just fall off a cliff. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: You need to have twenty. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: Five able players who played a decent level to win. 19 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 4: You were a camp and it comes back to that 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: had you cover or get through when your gun players 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 4: are injured. It's that system versus talent identification. 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: Right. 23 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 4: The Penrith system, because everyone knows their role, executes it 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: to sentime to perfect every time, whether a Schneider or Cleary, 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: there's going to be a difference, but at least everyone knows. 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 2: What's about to happen before it happens. 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: People say it's predictable, people say it's not the way 28 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: you should be playing. 29 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what. 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: It's reliable for people to come in and come out 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: and not lose too much momentum. Whereas you'd say Brisbane 32 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: aren't as predictable or system based as Penrith. Reynolds jumps out, 33 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 4: but you've got Painhass, Patrick Carrigan, Jordan Ricky, Res Walsh, 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: Azra Man, Cobbo Staggers. There's just talent that makes up 35 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: for the lack of having Adam Reynolds a. 36 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: It's funny, isn't like Brisbane. So if Brisbane lose, they 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: lose Reynolds. But because they're that's sort of free wheeling 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: side a little bit that you had to prev They 39 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: sort of have to adjust their football and they play 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: more power base game. 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: We saw that with Nicko Bourne out and the Cronulla they. 42 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: Centralize and play a well power game where Penrith. 43 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: It's just business as usual and it is so for the. 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Young half packer who comes in, whether it be Schneider 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: or Cogger the year before and whatnot. For them, they 46 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: don't have to come into a side, and as such 47 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: steer the side around the park because when you watch 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: Penwuth play, everyone just naturally falls into position. 49 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: So basically, even. 50 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: Though you're playing a half pack, just look after your job, 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: just keep properly, defend well and just roll through your sets. 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 4: If you're a half back for Penrith, all you really 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: need to do in that system when you're young and 54 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 4: inexperienced is defend well and kick the ball well. 55 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: There you are. 56 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 4: Two prior is because Isaiao's touches go through the roof. 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: Go watch the second half when clear went off, Isaiao 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: became a real distributor, moving the ball around and knowing 59 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 4: when to throw it, when to take her on, and 60 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: Jerome Leui started moving around. 61 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: The field a little bit more So. It's interesting. 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 4: I loved what the Sharks did, like with no Nicko Heinz, 63 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 4: like the way that Craig Fitzgibbon orchestrated that performance around. Okay, 64 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: Brayley's my main man. He's creative out a dumb behalf. 65 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to lose that, but yet with the 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: speed of Munster and far longer, I need some movement 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: at three in defensively, so Brayley attacks in the middle, 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: defends at three in and then you give them basically 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: the whole team to Daniel Atkinson, who's playing his sixth game. Yeah, 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: it's pretty impressive performance. 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: I mean we spoke about performances of the year last week. 72 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: That is number one by far from me what the 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Sharks did on the weekend. 74 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: Coubert for a second, let's just trained spotting scene and 75 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: not not tactically. I want to just a quick talk 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: about some of these injuries that have taken place. Now, 77 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: I've got a good mate who is a boot inventor, 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: very very famous as far as through Craig Johnston, right, 79 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: fellow Navocastrin john Ay told me he told me eighteen 80 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: months two years ago he was concerned with some of 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: the modern boosts that he believed there was a fault 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: in the boots. Uh and he said, which we're leading 83 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: to a c LS patteller proteller injuries. 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: A lot of cars, a lot of hamstrings. 85 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: I'm just having to look at the number of players 86 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: here that can't be a coincidence. Yeah, I got and 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: the boots a lot of the modern boots and you 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: boring people here, but we'll just go with it all 89 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: the time. But I don't like it, right, Yeah, that's right. 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: All they do turn it off quicker. Right throughout my 91 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: career were they were the traditional boot. They had a 92 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: very simple the world of screwings or yeah, you had 93 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: the molded sol The molded was a very simple base. 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: The boots had a lot more support. 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 3: There's been a there's been a modern trend with football 96 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: boots that they are weight obsessed. So each single year 97 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: they find a way to make the boots lighter and 98 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 3: lighter and lighter, and as a result, there is less 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: support in the boot and I tear coops. Look at 100 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: I look at the stud formation on modern boots and 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: those boots, some of them for years for better term, 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: the grip, they how they grabbed the ground savage. Now 103 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: right at the back end of my career, I was 104 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 3: given I wore Massoino boots usually, but they give me. 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: I had this other company that came in and gave 106 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: a few of us. 107 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: At the night these new boots which were. 108 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: Exactly the same with a lot of the guys wear 109 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 3: them now, they were the first of their kind. I 110 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: did give them back. They absolutely shredded my legs. I 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: had calf injuries, I had hamstrings, and a lot of 112 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: the other guys did as well. It's just a it's 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 3: just a little thing. But I mean we're talking about 114 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's worthwhile players and people within 115 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 3: the game just in support having a look at the 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: at the boot. I honestly believe it's a major factor 117 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: in some of these injuries. 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think again your point, the boots, the weather 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: has played a part in the ground condition. The other 120 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: part two is maybe one thing that clubs. 121 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: Need to invest in. 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: Is last thing we need is all our players going 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: overseas to get rehabbed and then coming back for a 124 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: period of time. Like maybe there needs to be some 125 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: form of investment done here in terms of prehabilitation, rehabilitation 126 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 4: in terms of soft tissues. But the other part too 127 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: is clearly was diagnosed with Grade too hamstring. 128 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: Right. 129 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: I'm not saying there's conspiracies or anything about because when 130 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: Turbo went off the field, he limped with a Grade too. 131 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 4: When you do a Grade two it's painful. It is 132 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: literally you cannot walk or run. You feel it every time. 133 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 4: But Nathan sort of jogged back to position and then 134 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 4: walked off without a limb. He trained strongly for the 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: week either side of that, so undone it if it's 136 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 4: grade too, I think what Penrith are doing is okay, 137 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 4: this is a re injuring of an old hamstring team. 138 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 4: It's maybe on the grade one, it's very minor. But 139 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: the last thing we need is this guy to be playing, 140 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: having two weeks off, coming back during the origin period 141 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 4: and potentially ripping the whole thing. So I think they've 142 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 4: gone a very cautious approach with his injury in eight weeks. 143 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: Mate, let's get this right. Let's don't worry about origin. 144 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 4: Let's fix this up and we'll just say it's a 145 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: great too, because that'll bias time Cooper. 146 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: When you regularly do hamstrings, every time you even feel 147 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: the slightest flick in that hamstring, it mentally it takes you. 148 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: You takes you a long way, a long way back. 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: We're saying about the time situation, and with Nathan, you've 150 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: just you've got to get them right because when they 151 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: start to compound, more than just the hamstring itself, it's 152 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: the mental scarring as well. 153 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 4: I will say this too, some players who are less 154 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 4: professional than turbo and clearing, we'll get multiple hamstring injuries. 155 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: But it must be a bit of a red flag 156 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: or scare when you are that professional, when you do 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: all the things you need to do and you still 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: get hamstring tess, that's a bit of an. 159 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: Issue, the toll that puts on your body with the 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: amount of kicking as well. Like and Nathan is such professional, 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 3: he'd be out there, he'd be doing more extras as 162 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: far as his goal kicking, his general play kicking than 163 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: anybody else in your seat. And even what puts a 164 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: lot of stress, those dead ball kicks like you did 165 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: those ones, they're pretty taxing on the kick and leg. 166 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: And that's why I say that I don't think it's 167 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 4: a great too, because he was if it is true, 168 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: that's when he did it. 169 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: It was in the motion of kicking the ball. 170 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 4: You can't exactly tear a hamstring to the nth degree 171 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: when just doing a small kicker. 172 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: That because. 173 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 3: That is true what you're saying, and they're just being 174 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: ultra cautious courtious, Well, that's a good sign. We talk 175 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: about all the players that are into there and on 176 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: the sideline, Sean Johnson is injured, but he's playing, telling 177 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: me his thoughts on john. 178 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 4: I've been in Sewan's shoes where you're at the back 179 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: end of your career and Sewan's not playing well at 180 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: the moment, and physically teams are going after him. They're 181 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: making sure that he's having a bad day. Out Hangers 182 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 4: Crichton did on the weekend Jadan Seward did against the Dragons, 183 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: and I remember my last year twenty nineteen, we played 184 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: Penrith at Penrith and Villy Army kickout monstered me for 185 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: eighty minutes, put me six foot under a couple of times. 186 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: And I was the bottom of long list. There. 187 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: I was driving home going get me out of this season, 188 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 4: get me done. And for the next four or five 189 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 4: weeks I played really poor. I wasn't playing. I was 190 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: sort of there but not present and doing everything I 191 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: need to do try and stay away from contact. I 192 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: remember that I loved it, and it wasn't until there 193 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: was light at the end of the tunnel where there 194 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: was a reset that I actually got some enthusiasm back 195 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: for the game. I knew I was finishing, so I'm 196 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 4: not saying that Sean will finish. 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is he needs a reset. 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: He needs this time, whether it's a week, two weeks, 199 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: whatever the injury is, and he needs to work out 200 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: whether this is going to be his last and he 201 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: needs to go for it. Because the thing I had 202 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: on my side, we're at the Roosters, We're in good 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: shape and going to play f His team's out of 204 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: finals contention at the moment and not playing really well. 205 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 4: So this time off that injury, for me, is a 206 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 4: huge reset for Sean and it needs to come back 207 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: with energy and physicality to get back to. 208 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: He's been here before. 209 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: Sean, like if we remember his stint at the Sharks 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: that that last year he picked up, he had an 211 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: achilles injury, had a couple of injuries, but people were saying, 212 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: well he's done. I remember watching him though. I was 213 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 3: really surprised because they had a decision to make Cronulla, 214 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: you know, was there was Maddy Moylen and there was Sean. 215 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: They were going to keep one, let another one go. 216 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: I was actually I was surprised they let Sean go. 217 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 3: I saw glimpses of Sean at Cranulla that I thought 218 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 3: he played some of his best football as far as 219 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: the leadership was concerned. 220 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: We've seen him here before. 221 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: What's not helping as well as he's lost his half 222 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: partner in Metcalf, Tamari Martin is not given him enough. 223 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: He ain't given him enough, and the side struggling. The 224 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: fourds just aren't bending the lineback like they were. 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: So this is the Warriors injury list in terms of 226 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: the half. So Metcalf out, Johnson out, Harris Tavita out. 227 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: So now they're probably going to line up with tomorrow 228 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: Martin who's not hitting where he needs to get to 229 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: and probably doing walker in the hearse for the next 230 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 4: period of time up against the next four or five weeks. 231 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 4: I think they've got Penrith and Magic round storms in 232 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: there somewhere. The last thing they needed to be doing 233 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 4: is get the round fourteen with three wins on the board. 234 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about that when we're talking about resets. 235 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: He's an opportunity for the Warriors to reset because Cooper, 236 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 3: for me, they've lot well, they've obviously lost their way. 237 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: I'll give you. I'll give you the area that I 238 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: think they've lost their way. 239 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 3: Last year, if we spoke similarly about this last week. 240 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: If the Warriors had a twin brother, it was the Dolphins. 241 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: They played a very similar style. Now what do I 242 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: mean by that? They started the first thirty minutes of 243 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: their game very conservative power football, few errors, even a 244 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: few offloads, kick long, poor energy into the defense. 245 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: That's how they built their game. 246 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: In my opinion, in the last last month they have 247 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: been they've been too focused on attack from the get go. 248 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: On the weekend, straight off the top from dummy half 249 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: Freddie Lassik and wadeg and they had them throw and 250 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: cut out passes, long cutout passes to forwards running your 251 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: running directly, like catching the ball in the face of 252 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 3: the defense. For me, that's high risk football. You know, 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: like I understand what they're trying to do. They're trying 254 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,599 Speaker 3: to get their power game on and all that, but 255 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: that's that's not a high risk passing lot, a high 256 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: risk reception and it broad upon errors and like twenty yeah, 257 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: you look at where they were last year, things that 258 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: they did and how they built their game. One thing 259 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: about rugby league is you can't win the game in 260 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: the first twenty minutes. But I tea what you can 261 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: use it and you can lose it coops and twenty 262 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: two to thirty minutes. 263 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: That is a polar opposite to what they're doing last year. 264 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 4: There's one thing that I learned from Craig Bellamy in 265 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: terms of like how do you evolve and get better? 266 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,359 Speaker 4: Your first step in is always do what you've got 267 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: and then build on top of that. So there's no 268 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 4: doubt that the Warriors and websit have gone, Okay, look 269 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 4: we've got a good football team here. We did this 270 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: well last year, but how about we tried doing this 271 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, if you start stepping away 272 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 4: from what you're good at, you start losing a lot 273 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: of those things that made you effective and winning games 274 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: of football. But the other thing that's letting the Warriors down, 275 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 4: We've spoken of this before, is when you're playing power 276 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 4: of football, geez, you need to break tackles, quick play 277 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 4: the balls, be athletic in contact and the middle forwards 278 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: just aren't doing that at the moment because we spoke 279 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 4: about you know, when Seun's moving the plays to the 280 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: one side of the field, it's just one out, it's slow, 281 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: it's pedestrian. Oh why aren't we scoring because you're not 282 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 4: being dynamic enough when you want to get the footing. 283 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: It's interesting what you said there. 284 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: For the want to progress your football and become a 285 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: better football side, sometimes you know you're risking an old saying, 286 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 3: don't abandon the mule. 287 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: The taste of the top of the mountain. Do you 288 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 289 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: And I think with the want to have their football, 290 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: they've just wandered away from what was working for them. 291 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 4: Even if you're a player, right like I'm good at one, 292 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: two three, you keep that as your center point and 293 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: you might add one on top, but always do one 294 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 4: two three, add something else on top, will always do 295 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: it like that's the building blocks of. 296 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: Evolving building blocks. We spoke before about Burton. 297 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: Burton stripped when it was lacking confidence, stripped his game 298 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 3: completely back and has built his football brick by brick. 299 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 3: I want to be mainly for a second, mainly are 300 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: playing lost. Tom Travoy bitch is a huge player. But 301 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: I want to talk about how they're a forty minute 302 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: football side. 303 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: You know, the forty minutes they're bringing it. 304 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: They push the ball around, but then they just their 305 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: football subsides. Just a question court right about minimizing periods 306 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: in the game where the opposition have got a lion's 307 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: share of possession the opposition, or und roll the opposition 308 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: to enjoy a really good period in the game where 309 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: you know you're under the pump, How do you go 310 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 3: about your football and being under the pump without basically 311 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: the scoreboard roughly up for the opposition, Because in soccer, 312 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 3: for instance, you know when they're under the pump a 313 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: little bit and they need to take a breather and 314 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: they're being struggling, they push the ball around. 315 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: The back defenders just push it around and there's as 316 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: a bit of title, what do you do? What do 317 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: you do? What should mainly do during those periods that 318 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: they aren't. 319 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 4: So Changing momentum or getting back momentum is the hardest 320 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: thing in our game. It's really hard to do. But 321 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: as a halfback, you've got a couple of plays. You 322 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: can either look for one big play that turns the 323 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: game in your favor, like an intercept or some big 324 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: trick play that you got which is probability not great, 325 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 4: or you can do a lot of little players. The 326 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: one thing I always used to when I was trying 327 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: to get momentum back in my favor, I tried early. 328 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: Kicking, tackle three, tackle four. 329 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: Even if it was a forty to twenty ten whatever 330 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: it was, it was isolating the fullback by themselves getting 331 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 4: kickchased down one. You take two tackles out of the 332 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 4: system where the force could potentially knock it on, which compounds. 333 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: An issue too. 334 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: You're basically saying to everyone else, say this is the 335 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 4: way we're going to play for the next five minutes. 336 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: Get on your bike, get down there, and it forces 337 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: the opposition to get back behind the ball. 338 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 2: Quicker. 339 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 3: That's a very Queensland tactic. It is like you'd say 340 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: you bloke's turn the contests instead of origin matches. 341 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: And the other one is if say you're in front 342 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: and you've got a twenty point lead and you're just 343 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: not playing well, the other team's coming at you, i e. 344 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: The Prison Broncos in the Grand Final last year. You 345 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 4: have total control, kick the ball out. Just take dead 346 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: lay in this game, lose momentum for them, don't keep 347 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 4: the ball alive, get more people, getting a bigger breath 348 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: and getting some energy in the tank and just kick 349 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: the ball out. 350 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: Just kick it in the corner. 351 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: It's not great, it's not pretty, but at least you're 352 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: taking the energy out of the game for your team. 353 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, paramount paramatter. 354 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: When the Broncos had some of those great side to 355 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 3: winning Grand Finals, Bryan Smiths tactic was just kick the 356 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: ball in touch. 357 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: Now. 358 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: Paramatta sometimes would literally just kick the ball like they 359 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: ten meters, just but knocking in touch. 360 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: Break the momentum of the game. 361 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: Stop the flow, don't let Lockier and Sailor and Takiri 362 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: start to combine. So that was very much their tactic. 363 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: Make the game just stop and start and frustrate them. 364 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 4: And I think for Manly and Cherry Evans has this 365 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: all these things in his kid bake, he can do that, 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 4: but it's about telling everyone else about Okay, this is 367 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 4: the plan and this is what we're going to do, 368 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: and you need to have buy in, because the last 369 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: thing Cherry Evans needs to do is kick an early 370 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 4: kick on tackle three and no one chase. Someone like 371 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 4: Reese Welsh gets a ball on Friday night bounces five 372 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 4: to six people without these fifteen minutes out needs to 373 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: be a buying from everyone. 374 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: Let's have a talk about the roosters from a couple 375 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: of aspects. Firstly, how good you Blake's playing at the 376 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: moment you're on the coaching staff. 377 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: There, I'm not doing anything. 378 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: I thought, so I can see a good plan. 379 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: I haven't been in there for the last month. 380 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: They found a really good balance the roosters in between, 381 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 3: like sticking their principles and way they want to go 382 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: about things, but individual your ingenuity has been added another 383 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: layer on top. So Sam now on the weekend looking 384 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: over and recognizing they just put that fifty minute cross kickover. 385 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: I don't know if he does that last year. Joey 386 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: Marnho and we've spoken about how does he get in 387 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: the games? 388 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: The center. 389 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 3: Well, now you can see he's just having a looking 390 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: down right, I'm going to wander in those couple of 391 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: times that I just love the fact it was like 392 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: miles of Meninger or Kenny and Steve Vella, is that 393 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 3: he went right out. I'm going to move out the 394 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: other side of the field and I'm going to combine 395 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: with Joe Suli Tedesco's try. 396 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: He basically played as a second layer fullback. I swung 397 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 4: around the other side, beautiful pass to. 398 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 1: I don't know why more centers strike centers don't do that. 399 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: It's a great tactic. 400 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: Well one you've got to have the skills right and 401 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 4: then two you've got to have the footy awareness of 402 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 4: when to inject, because a lot of players, like Zach 403 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 4: Lomax tries to do it. He just comes over and 404 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: he chases kicks, which is most effective but sometimes doesn't 405 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: get involved. Last thing you need to be doing is 406 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 4: turn the ball over and then they think it back 407 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: to where you were. Joey's got footy IQ, but the 408 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 4: past that he played off that scrum, I see Walker. 409 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 4: Not too many centers can do that type blind pass 410 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: blind pass beautiful. The other thing, too, is I like 411 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: the balance of Tedesco's doing his roving best now, like 412 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: he's back through the middle pinboy and creating having and they've. 413 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: Got different looks. 414 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 4: On the left hand side, they're really like arrow straight 415 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: and powerful with Kiri Crichton and Swaliti. On the right 416 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 4: hand side, it's flair. It's got Walker bouncing left and right, 417 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: long pass to Joe Marno and he's like playing potato 418 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: with that ball at the moment. 419 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: So yeah, again they're finding good balance, isn't it. 420 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: And we've spoke before a bit. You know, you can't 421 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: win the game of the first tween nests, but you 422 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: can lose it. And watching watching the Roosters twenty two 423 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: points in just over ten minutes, but watching the style 424 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: of football I played, they didn't chase the points. So 425 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: that makes sense. Like there was a set and we've 426 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: got to hear it. It was leading up to a 427 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: Crichon try. Where before this we've seen a couple of 428 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: other inside balls, but the whole set, this whole set, 429 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 3: even eluding sixteen nil, has been very much just inside balls, 430 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 3: inside balls, inside balls. Designed of it about not necessarily 431 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: scoring points, but burning the opposition out, burning those warriors 432 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: middles out. Then all of a sudden the end of 433 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 3: the set of six, Luke puts a little dink through 434 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 3: and results in a try. 435 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: That's a bonus. That's an example. 436 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: About getting your football right as having that attitude that 437 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: when they're sixteen nil up is that we're trying to 438 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 3: build the game. 439 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 2: So the idea. 440 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 4: Around that is by turn the ball back in the middle, 441 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: you are creating fatigue in the opposition's middle defenders. Right, 442 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: So the middle defenders here are making four or five 443 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 4: tackles in this set. And then at the back end 444 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: of it, when Kirry goes to the line to kick. 445 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: They're tired, they can't put pressure on. He goes all 446 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 4: the way in the line and gets a kick on. 447 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 4: And there's no doubt that Penrith have played this style 448 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 4: where they turn players back through the middle, putting fatigue 449 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: in the middle defenders, which ultimately gives a lot of 450 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 4: space for your creative players to do their thing. And 451 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: the thing I noticed from a Warrior's point of view 452 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: then there was no pressure on any of the ball players. 453 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: There there was a lot of time and space for 454 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: Kiri Tedesco Walker to do that thing. So their style 455 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 4: of play at which the Rooster's played punch the Warriors 456 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 4: in the face and after twenty minutes agame was done. 457 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: Okay, Dave forfeited to the Roosters. Maye, it's a huge signing. 458 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: How do you see Dave operating with because Nakier in 459 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: next year, like Sam's aren't an unorthodox halfback that I 460 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: don't necessarily see him at the moment striking great relationships 461 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 3: chips up. 462 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: With edge back rowers. 463 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: So that thing is going to be a challenge for 464 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: Robot trying to maneuver it in I'd give him my 465 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 3: opinion on Dave. I think if Dave gets enough miles 466 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: in his legs and his lungs during an off season, 467 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: I actually think he's best football be through the middle. 468 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 2: Just get like for the future. 469 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 4: You're saying, you're saying, do it for a period of 470 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 4: time to get the miles in your legs. 471 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: No. 472 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: No, I think if he has a good price, isn't 473 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: he gets his fitness up. I think his best football 474 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: will sit in the middle of the field. He gives 475 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: him simple ball. 476 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: A lot of. 477 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: Dave's best stuff is just give me the early ball, 478 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: let me just go. 479 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: I think differently, I would love to play with the 480 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: back roll at David Feeder. 481 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: Yes see, that's the thing I know you do. But 482 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: it's finding he and Sam. Do you see he and 483 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: Sam forming that combination? 484 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 2: Well, they have to one hundred percent. It's got to whenever. 485 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter what type of player you are, You've 486 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: got to find the right balance to compliment one another. 487 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 4: In terms of a combination, David Feeder is the prototype 488 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: back row, big, powerful, hard to handle one on one. Okay, 489 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 4: so what do we need to do create a lot 490 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 4: of one on one for him. One thing that Sam 491 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: needs to improve in my opinion is creating one on 492 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: one for line running back rollers. But the other thing 493 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: he does better than most is the way that he 494 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: drifts across the field and gets other players to chase him. 495 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: And a ball back inside for someone like for Feeder 496 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 4: could just be all they need because the dyna namic 497 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 4: footwork and the tackle breaking ability that he has. So 498 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 4: again it's not always play direct. It's like, let's mix 499 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: this up a little bit. We've spoken about kick out 500 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: and what he's doing right, He's starting to put early ball, 501 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 4: short passes in the line, turning balls back under me. 502 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: That's the evolution and Sam to be the best half 503 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: back in this competition needs to evolve and grow as well. 504 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: You think Angus Crime came out and said, you know, 505 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to basically sit behind day for feed 506 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 3: or waiting for a chance. He described the signing signing 507 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: is interesting. It's professional sport in it. Does Angus Crichton 508 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: stay at the roosters? 509 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: What do you think they'll definitely make a player to 510 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: try to keep him difficult? 511 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 2: I think it completely ends up up to Angus. 512 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 4: One thing I will say about this, Angus is playing 513 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 4: great football, great football right, but he's played a good month, 514 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 4: but it hasn't been that great pride that month, right, 515 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: So it's up to Angus. But when you're a part 516 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 4: of a team and someone is signed from outside the 517 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 4: team in your exact position, you play very similar style. 518 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: There is an alarming thing that says, okay, that you're 519 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: not up for it. We've gone to get this guy instead. 520 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 4: So maybe that's exactly what Angus needed in his connection 521 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: of desire. 522 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: I would understand that if they said it left side 523 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: back row, because you know, Angus had been had been 524 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: struggling to talk him going to rugby union and whatnot. 525 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: But the timing is just as they signed for food 526 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: at Angus is playing. Look, I've said this before. I've 527 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: seen AGAs play as good. I've never seen seen him 528 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: play better than he's playing at the moment. 529 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 4: There's also satility Bernua, Egan, Nat Butcher. So there's a 530 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 4: few guys there that are in the same position. I'm 531 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: not sure what their contract situations are, but same position as. 532 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: What I saw Butcher and the Sheds for the game. 533 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: We went up to shake Nick's hand, neck walks straight 534 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 3: past himself. That might be a bad sign for Nick. 535 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 3: On the show last night. Yeah, he did the old 536 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: and it's just like you and I guess now. 537 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever there's a handshake, it's always. 538 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: Been it's a favorite. 539 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 3: Help me out, Jesuss like cool walk two weeks ago 540 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: talking about New South Wales and Nathan and all these 541 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 3: things we had going on. 542 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: Maybe they just drunk. 543 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: What's happening unbelievable Gensters seven and six in New South Wales, 544 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: Moses and Nicico at the moment are presenting themselves as 545 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: the favorites. Do you see them work being able to 546 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 3: work well together. 547 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: I've got no idea why I would help yourself well 548 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: or the former. 549 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: Listen, come on, listen, listen, listen, listen. 550 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 3: There comes a time in your professional career when you 551 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: have to let go of the fact that you're no 552 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 3: longer a player and you are an employer of Fox Sports. 553 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: You are not a first and foremost, you're an employer 554 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 3: a Fox. 555 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: Sports, not a Queen's Land. You put out for sake, 556 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: help me out. 557 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: But you put family aside for odin last year about Queensland. 558 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: Well done. I appreciate the still won't talk to me. 559 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Mister world wide. 560 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: Here I would be putting at seven hinds at six 561 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: reason bean. I think both can play either role. But 562 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 4: I like moses aggression. I like his no I don't 563 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 4: want to say arrogance, but like confidence. You know what, 564 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: I can do this, I will run the show and 565 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 4: just let Nico float like. I think Nicko's a cool 566 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: cat that doesn't really want to be super under pressure 567 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 4: all the time. And I think Moses got that swagger 568 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: that says, you know what, I can stand here in 569 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 4: the front line and take the seven jersey for New 570 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 4: South Wales and cop whatever comes with it. 571 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: So I think that's where it looks like. 572 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 4: I think like Louise there. But look, I think Lewis 573 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 4: had his chance. And it doesn't mean because Nathan's there 574 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 4: that no one else cuts but gets a chance, But 575 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 4: I think Lewis had his last chance lost their series. 576 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: Okay, the dynamics around the New South Wales side. As 577 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: far as what's going on Madge's mind, because when we 578 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 3: had Madge here, have any on doing almost the only 579 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 3: position that he can sider, yeah, was Nathan. 580 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: That's your most important player. 581 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 3: And then in his mind, Madge, He's gone, right, ourself, 582 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: I've got Nathan, you know, and he's got to plug 583 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: everything into Nathan suddenly it's a completely different sight. 584 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 585 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: Do you think that as far as the say Bill 586 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: and Edwards, as far as ISAEO, that that must have 587 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: some sort of impact. 588 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 4: No, I don't think Edwards is either the best fullback 589 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: or he's not, whether Nathan's there or not. I don't 590 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: think Dylan Edwards's game really relies on Nathan Like he 591 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 4: literally just works his backside off. You know what you're 592 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: going to get, right. I think Tedesco is a fullback. 593 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: Moses Heinz as it sits right now, will probably be 594 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 4: in the halves. But the more interesting one for me 595 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 4: is the dummy half position happy corus. How was there 596 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: that Rhys Robson has been in and around it? Brayley 597 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 4: Blake has been sort of in amongst. 598 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: That has been spoken about us at fourteen. 599 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 4: It looks as though that you're probably going to want 600 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: someone who can tackle themselves to a standstill and deliver 601 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: good service as opposed to being a creator. A creator 602 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 4: out of the you can do the tandem act like 603 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: Queensland do with Harry Grant and Ben Hunt. But I 604 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 4: think that's that's the I think Tanasco's fullback moment I 605 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 4: think chorus. 606 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 3: I think, I think the combination magic go Corris, how 607 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 3: McGinnis start McGinnis. There's no well, there's been a little 608 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: bit of stuff going around that McGinnis magic is looking 609 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 3: to start McGinnis to bring Happy off the bench. 610 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: I'd go the other way around. 611 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 3: I think Happy Appy is a guy that got great 612 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 3: influence and I think hes happy. 613 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: He'd say he want to start, he'd be desperate to start. 614 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: And the other thing about McGinnis is you can play McGuinness. 615 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: Just spend anywhere. 616 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: Flamers middle forward, your flamers are nine, he can pick up. 617 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what I love the traits that 618 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: Ken McGinnis brings like he is like just tough, like 619 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 4: he puts his head in places that I wouldn't even 620 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: consider going close. 621 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: With my feet. 622 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 4: Clearly, Yes, he's one tough on bra and he would 623 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: epitomize an origin moment. 624 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: We've got magic ground coming up. 625 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: I was going to say, next week, I'll help you 626 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 3: up the queenstay and side if you're interest to help 627 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 3: just last year. 628 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you always. 629 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely are you going to be present at any stage 630 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: or you watch We're going to watch some football for 631 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: the first time. 632 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: Watching the game, I tends to be with magic ground. 633 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 3: Football gets in the way. Kid long to get up there. 634 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 3: I think to myself, like or sometimes I will go 635 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: to the game, but given the nature of the festivities 636 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: and celebrations, I got. 637 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: Up the next day and say the trush who won? 638 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Who did what? Just you know, it's it's just it's 639 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: just I go up there and I want to be professional. 640 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: I want to be professional. I really want to be, 641 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: but I just can't. 642 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: What does Matthew John's professional look like? Because I haven't 643 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: seen it, you'd be surprised. 644 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: I sort of beaver away at Ham coming up. 645 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 4: The idea is last night, Magic Round, I saw you 646 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: with his shirt off with some tourists dancing on the 647 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 4: dance floor. That was Friday night. I didn't see you 648 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: for the rest of us. I got until Sunday Maddie 649 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 4: John Show. 650 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Well, I'll see what happened. 651 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: Before the Maddi John Show. I was in the I 652 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: was in there whatever they call those those. I was 653 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: in the portoloo going, oh my god, don't go ma, 654 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 3: You're on in a minute. 655 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: It's going, okay, flet's for a little while Fletz was 656 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to hose. 657 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: But anyway, looking forward to it. 658 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to It's going to be terrific, 659 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: right