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Speaker 1: Apogee Production.

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Speaker 2: Girls type in central. Who's the guy? I like, he's

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Speaker 2: really good? Oh, Johnny Sims.

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Speaker 3: Boys watch Johnny Simms.

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Speaker 4: That's how girls like to be more like Johnny Simms,

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Speaker 4: whereas guys are watching the most hectic.

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Speaker 1: When you're with your friends, you talk about all the

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Speaker 1: ship everything everything. Your friends single like you or they Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And they're really hot and they're really available and they're amazing.

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Speaker 1: DM, what what's the I'm gonna put you on spot

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Speaker 1: The worst nationality mail to date.

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Speaker 3: Australian definitely definitely boring.

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Speaker 4: Don't go to any effort. I think of grunt and

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Speaker 4: a boom grab is full play. A date is at

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Speaker 4: the bar.

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Speaker 2: Like, don't ask questions.

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Speaker 3: They just sit there and like don't brush their teeth,

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Speaker 3: like if we've got deodor and.

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Speaker 2: Turn up in singles like I could go on. Actually,

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Speaker 2: Australians are.

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Speaker 3: My father worst American.

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Speaker 4: They they've got the riz and the rizz is charisma

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Speaker 4: and they're just born. Whether it's fake minnas or real Mennas,

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Speaker 4: they're just you know, they'll offer you their coat, they'll

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Speaker 4: come up to in a bar, they'll come up to

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Speaker 4: getting like that.

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Speaker 2: They're good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good. But American just like any bye. Just

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Speaker 4: got back from New York and it was the best.

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Speaker 4: I got picked up in the airport line like the

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Speaker 4: guy who does who stamps your He was like, where

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Speaker 4: are you staying? And I was like here. He's like,

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Speaker 4: you're going to take me out?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, yes, I've a right, but also no,

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Speaker 3: because you're not my time. So I say Americans are

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Speaker 3: the best. They just I say Americans shoot?

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Speaker 2: What is it they shoots? Oh yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 4: Actually the last time I was in New York, I

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Speaker 4: hooked up with a Frenchman so that didn't work out.

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Speaker 4: But no Americans to shoot their shot.

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Speaker 1: What scares you about the mail the most? It's a commitment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you are right.

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Speaker 4: As soon as the guy I questioned a guy, but

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Speaker 4: this is on me and please.

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Speaker 2: Know this is my issue, not there.

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Speaker 3: As soon as the guy shows real interest, it freaks

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Speaker 3: me out.

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Speaker 1: I reckon. You get bored because you've done the hard work,

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Speaker 1: so you like. What you like to do is you

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Speaker 1: look at someone and say, oh, I want to do this.

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Speaker 1: I want to see if he looks a challenge. But

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Speaker 1: once that challenge is done.

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Speaker 2: Nabbed him. Thank you. Next it's really bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is, and it's something I've definitely got and

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Speaker 4: I know it, and they say the first step is

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Speaker 2: Tick.

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Speaker 4: I get yeah, and then I'm like, wha, what the heck?

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Speaker 4: I lose interest pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: But that's on me, you know, I'm I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I question and I'm like, really me, how old are you?

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine? So I should know better.

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Speaker 1: But what I said about maybe thirty four.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four loah his botox to men? Thank you? No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I struggle with commitment, but I think that's probably

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Speaker 4: because I grew up in a household where they were

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Speaker 4: high school sweethearts. So that kind of drama that you

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Speaker 4: have in high school played.

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Speaker 1: Out through your brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 3: Two brothers, yeah, and well they think of what you

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Speaker 4: One brother has blocked me on Instagram. He's like, I

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Speaker 4: So the youngest brother, who's really kind of put together.

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Speaker 4: He's an environmental scientist. He got his HC back. No

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Speaker 4: one knew he was that smart. And then I'm like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, like he's really intelligent, married his university sweetheart,

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Speaker 4: has two kids, has a house in Rubra and a

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Speaker 4: on a farm in Parks.

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Speaker 3: And he's no, he's no. He calls everything I.

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Speaker 2: Set him up with my girlfriends. He reads all else

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Speaker 2: to do exactly. He's so bored.

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Speaker 1: Where state you've ever been on?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? So many.

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Speaker 4: There was a guy who ghosted me halfway through a date,

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Speaker 3: So it was really funny.

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Speaker 4: I feel like there's a lot of guys who got

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Speaker 4: married before the dating apps came along, and I think

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Speaker 4: they feel like they really missed out on dating apps

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Speaker 4: and they think we're all having sex.

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Speaker 2: And to be fair, they're not wrong.

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Speaker 1: Because I was supposed to say I think it is.

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Speaker 2: They're not wrong. It's a randy randy thing.

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Speaker 4: But so all these guys got married, and they're like, fuck,

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Speaker 4: all my mates are on the dating apps having all

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Speaker 4: this ex and I want to see what it's like.

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Speaker 4: So they did some stat bumble or Tinder or one

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Speaker 4: of them found that like thirty percent of the men

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Speaker 4: on dating apps are actually married. And I went on

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Speaker 4: a date with this guy and he wanted to go

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Speaker 4: when I got there, and he was like sweating.

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Speaker 2: This was before, this.

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Speaker 4: Was when I had just started my dating column, so

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Speaker 4: I wasn't really known as dating promist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And he.

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Speaker 4: Was sweating bullets, sweating bullets, and he kept drinking and

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Speaker 4: he would like open his throat, you know when like they.

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Speaker 3: Drink and it just goes straight down.

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Speaker 4: He was not enjoying the beer. I was like, oh

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Speaker 4: my god, he's drinking so fast. And he kept going

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Speaker 4: never seen someone so nervous on a date. But I

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Speaker 4: kind of stuck with it and I was like, he's

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Speaker 4: all right. Then he went out for a cigarette, like

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Speaker 4: he's like fifth cigarette. And so I got chatting to

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Speaker 4: the people next to me, and then ten minutes went by,

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Speaker 4: then like fifteen minutes and twenty minutes, and so then

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Speaker 4: I jumped back on the app and I had a

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Speaker 4: message from him saying, sorry I've left. You look like

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Speaker 4: you're having a really good chat to those guys. I

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Speaker 4: was like, I'm having a chat with these guys because

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Speaker 4: called my best friend.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I've just been inquisted on a date.

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Speaker 2: This is so traumatic.

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Speaker 4: And he goes to me, no, this is a really

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Speaker 4: good article, and I was like, Y're what.

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Speaker 2: I stopped crying and then I was like, this is

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Speaker 4: And then we did some research because no one researches

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Speaker 4: like a girl scorned and found him on Instagram and yeah,

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Speaker 4: he was married, so he is just thinking he could idiot.

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Speaker 1: So you do see how you've done the column on him?

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Speaker 1: So you did see what I mean? Yeah, why people

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Speaker 1: are so scared now?

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Speaker 3: He deserved it. He was married.

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Speaker 2: Naughty boy, Tell me what are you?

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Speaker 4: I want someone who's loud and fun and outgoing and

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Speaker 4: ambitious and age.

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Speaker 3: Age probably older.

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Speaker 4: I want someone who's probably already been married and had

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Speaker 4: kids because I don't want kids. No, no, no, I

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Speaker 4: just never got the maternity. Maternity, maternal maternity.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: The what.

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Speaker 2: May I never end up in maternity what No, I

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Speaker 2: never got it. So I'm I'm quite.

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Speaker 4: Happy to date a divorced guy because they've had their kids,

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Speaker 4: they've got out of the system. It's really hard to

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Speaker 4: date someone who wants kids because I'm never going to

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Speaker 4: change my mind.

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Speaker 3: And reason all these dudes think you will change your mind.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is that, see how you've got you

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Speaker 1: try and change them, But why can't they?

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Speaker 3: No, I never do No, I would never take kids

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you like to change someone like

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Speaker 1: a male. Yeah, So why can't they change you to

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Speaker 1: change your mind?

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Speaker 2: No, because.

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Speaker 4: I will never be pushing something out of there.

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Speaker 1: There nothing's going out.

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Speaker 3: It's an inny, not an OUTI.

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Speaker 2: No, No, not for me. So divorce man prime Target.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, Yeah, I definitely want to get married,

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Speaker 4: which is weird because I've done these articles and I

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Speaker 4: did a debate on Sky News the other day. Or

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Speaker 4: my marriage is outdated, but now I think marriage can

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Speaker 4: come in many forms as open marriages. Yeah, I'd like

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Speaker 4: to be married now.

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Speaker 1: Before we started the conversation today, you did talk about swingers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Ah, here's my problem with swinging.

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Speaker 1: On the spot. You know why, because I would look

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Speaker 1: at your articles all the time and I feel like

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Speaker 1: you put everyone else on the spot.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. You've got me thinking

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Speaker 2: write anything about me. I'm tiving into my head. No. No,

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Speaker 2: with swinging.

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Speaker 3: My problem with swinging.

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Speaker 4: Is I only I would definitely swing if I could

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Speaker 4: hand pick every person in that room.

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Speaker 1: Though, because that's when you go in. From what I know,

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Speaker 1: you can go in there and if you don't can

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Speaker 1: say no to that person, but yes to that person,

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Speaker 1: not to that person. Yes.

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Speaker 2: That I just feel like would be gross.

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Speaker 4: And also I want them if I'm having sex, I

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Speaker 4: only want the people I've approved to be watching.

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Speaker 2: It's a control thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm in control.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not, and I'd been too busy going do I

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Speaker 4: have a double chin angle?

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: My head would not be in the room. It would

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Speaker 3: be do I have cellul.

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Speaker 2: With everyone looking at me? Cellul? No?

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Speaker 4: But if I could get like five hot guys five

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Speaker 4: hot girls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd go for it.

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Speaker 3: Oh so you would be you would totally. I've tried it.

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Speaker 2: I really wanted to think. I written just about that

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Speaker 2: the pandemic was low.

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Speaker 3: Oh, like I've doubled. Yeah. It was a bit of fun,

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Speaker 3: never dated, never just a.

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Speaker 1: Bit of like you went out for drinks and.

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Speaker 4: Girls really needy, like I kind of it was weird.

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Speaker 4: Dabbling made me go, oh, it's interesting seeing it from

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Speaker 4: a guy's point of view, because I've like got drunk

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Speaker 4: and walked up with the girl, and then I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, from like text text text.

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Speaker 3: Cool, cool cool, and I'm no, that was just fun.

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Speaker 3: That was just silly.

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Speaker 4: H