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Speaker 1: Apodjay Production. Welcome to the shep Risers Podcast. I'm Ashley

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Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is.

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Speaker 2: About female empowerment and encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest,

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Speaker 2: and most authentic version of yourself.

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Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone

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Speaker 1: else is too afraid to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Get ready for your next level of self.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to the shee Rits Podcast. There's

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Speaker 1: three of us here today.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we've got a special guest with us today and

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Speaker 2: we know you're going to absolutely love her.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Welcome fee to the bookcast.

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Speaker 4: Hi, thank you so much for having me on the

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Speaker 4: shee Risers Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. You've flown up from Sydney. I

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Speaker 1: did from my ladies here. We are so good. Anyone

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Speaker 1: who's never heard of you before? Who are you and

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Speaker 1: what do you do? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Well, Hi, my name is Fi and my name actually

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Speaker 4: means flying high in Vietnamese.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Cooh, thank you.

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Speaker 4: My mom says she kind of regrets it because she says,

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Speaker 4: you travel so much, and I'm like, but you named

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Speaker 4: me that, which is really special actually because I was

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Speaker 4: Vietnamese born Australian, and so I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: people have a different name, but my parents are like,

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Speaker 4: you're going to be the same no matter what. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's a pretty crazy story because I feel like a

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Speaker 4: lot of my life has come from.

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Speaker 1: Difficulties or hardships.

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Speaker 4: It's actually my main energy in human design, which I

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Speaker 4: know we'll talk about, which is struggle.

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Speaker 1: And so it's kind of crazy.

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Speaker 4: My parents met fleeing the Vietnam War on a little

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Speaker 4: rickety boat, so if the boar didn't happen, I wouldn't

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Speaker 4: like whether it was stuff not working out on my

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Speaker 4: corporate career. But essentially, yeah, I am a life coach.

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Speaker 4: I do human design readings, I run retreats, and I

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Speaker 4: wrote a book called The Great Unlearning. So that's a

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Speaker 4: little bit about me. I've been doing this for five

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Speaker 1: So I'm very grateful to be here and speaking to

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Speaker 1: you both. Very freaking cool. We're going to get into

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Speaker 1: human design for this whole episode, but before we do,

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Speaker 1: we always ask our guests, and we do it every Monday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a share of the week. So this could be anything

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Speaker 1: that you're loving and enjoying to something that you would

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Speaker 1: recommend to everyone.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we were on the top b of snacks,

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Speaker 4: which I'm obsessed about love and I've seen it on

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Speaker 4: like you know, social media, but I hadn't done it before.

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Speaker 4: But do you know when you get a date and

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Speaker 1: It's like a snick as well. It's so good.

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Speaker 4: It's like a healthy hack, you know. Yeah, like you

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm on. I've seen them, I haven't

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Speaker 1: tried it.

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Speaker 3: I haven't tried it either of it. It sounds amazing. People

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Speaker 3: rave about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like all the overnight oats as well, like making

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Speaker 1: Like I'm obsessed. So alrighty, let's get into it. So

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Speaker 1: human design? What is human design? Because I had never

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Speaker 1: heard of it until I came across your profile on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I've been following you for like probably four years now.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I need to book in. I need

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Speaker 4: Oh? I love that and thank you. I feel like

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Speaker 4: everything is always divine timing, right, And you know, we

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Speaker 4: why I love human design because it's over like two

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Speaker 1: So it's yeah, it's really cool, so cool, And we

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Speaker 4: And I think when you two are so like people,

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Speaker 4: essentially says in human design, there are people out there

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Speaker 4: Guys think about learning like, Hey, I'm meant to be emotional?

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Speaker 1: It was really cool. Yeah, I think we've also healed

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Speaker 1: that within our friendship as well, that all the things

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Speaker 1: we used to shame ourselves for we then saw in

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Speaker 1: why can I not love myself for that? And then

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Speaker 1: it also brought it more forward, So like every part

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Speaker 1: brady or the bitchy side, it's like all gets comeforward

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Speaker 1: and be loved. And we've just shown now we are

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Speaker 2: evidence of every single time that we have been overly

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Speaker 3: For it, and then she would immediately love.

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Speaker 2: Every part of me and she'd be like, no, like

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Speaker 4: So I think it was really interesting, and I was saying,

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Speaker 4: Yes, And I feel like it's so beautiful because you've

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Speaker 2: No, that's exactly what happens, because it is very much

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Speaker 1: should launch it. Launch. We have no website, we haven't

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Speaker 1: a payment Like no.

434
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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I think we can deal it

435
00:17:04,921 --> 00:17:06,801
Speaker 3: with it. I'm like, we should just try. Like we're

436
00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,201
Speaker 3: in the energy, we're in BALI your phone.

437
00:17:09,001 --> 00:17:09,961
Speaker 1: Straight away, sorting it out.

438
00:17:10,041 --> 00:17:10,241
Speaker 4: Yeah.

439
00:17:10,241 --> 00:17:12,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, let's make this happen. And then

440
00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:13,801
Speaker 2: when you made it happen, you get too done.

441
00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:14,321
Speaker 1: Yeah.

442
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,441
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I love that because that's like you guys

443
00:17:16,481 --> 00:17:18,720
Speaker 4: talking about your alignment piece, because that's something that's so

444
00:17:18,801 --> 00:17:21,921
Speaker 4: important to human design because we speak about alignment being

445
00:17:21,921 --> 00:17:24,720
Speaker 4: in the flow. It's easy, it's effortless in a way.

446
00:17:24,761 --> 00:17:26,440
Speaker 4: And I think that's what you do when you respond

447
00:17:26,481 --> 00:17:29,521
Speaker 4: to your energetic signature. They say that's how you interact

448
00:17:29,521 --> 00:17:31,521
Speaker 4: with the world. So for you, Tiana, as a generator

449
00:17:31,561 --> 00:17:34,281
Speaker 4: manifesting generator, it's to respond to the world. The universe

450
00:17:34,321 --> 00:17:36,200
Speaker 4: is going to drop something, a little something something, and

451
00:17:36,241 --> 00:17:37,640
Speaker 4: you're here to respond, like how does that make me

452
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,201
Speaker 4: feel my body? Yeah, before you write those emotional waves.

453
00:17:40,201 --> 00:17:42,801
Speaker 4: Whereas for you, as she it's about like the invitation.

454
00:17:43,281 --> 00:17:45,160
Speaker 4: And I think when people look up human design on

455
00:17:45,201 --> 00:17:47,120
Speaker 4: the Internet, they're like, oh, if I'm a projector, like

456
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,440
Speaker 4: that sucks, like I'm just waiting around. But I'm like no, Like,

457
00:17:49,801 --> 00:17:52,721
Speaker 4: as a projector, you're here to get invitations by being

458
00:17:52,761 --> 00:17:55,160
Speaker 4: your best self. It's like I was saying to you, guys,

459
00:17:55,201 --> 00:17:57,360
Speaker 4: like that coffee shop that's really good, but it's like

460
00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,041
Speaker 4: thirty minutes is out of the way, but when it's

461
00:17:59,041 --> 00:18:00,680
Speaker 4: so good, like people are going to come out of

462
00:18:00,721 --> 00:18:03,080
Speaker 4: their way for that, and it's like very much. You know,

463
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,481
Speaker 4: as a projector, this lifetime of being really seen, heard

464
00:18:06,521 --> 00:18:09,240
Speaker 4: and understood. I think that's something that's so core to

465
00:18:09,281 --> 00:18:11,160
Speaker 4: a projector. And I think I was saying to you, like,

466
00:18:11,201 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 4: as a projector, you have this one to one aura.

467
00:18:13,921 --> 00:18:16,041
Speaker 4: So that is so precious to have one on one

468
00:18:16,041 --> 00:18:17,640
Speaker 4: time with you because you really see people.

469
00:18:17,681 --> 00:18:18,441
Speaker 1: You're the type of.

470
00:18:18,321 --> 00:18:20,761
Speaker 4: Person someone says, oh, I love blue ring muffins, and

471
00:18:20,801 --> 00:18:22,201
Speaker 4: you'll bring it to them for their birthday.

472
00:18:22,241 --> 00:18:23,920
Speaker 1: You know, it's like all those little details.

473
00:18:24,241 --> 00:18:26,441
Speaker 4: Whereas you know, for you Tiana, as a generator, it's

474
00:18:26,441 --> 00:18:27,761
Speaker 4: like this big enveloping aura.

475
00:18:27,761 --> 00:18:29,840
Speaker 1: There's like that charisma, people are really drawn to you.

476
00:18:30,201 --> 00:18:32,161
Speaker 4: So I think together, it's just such a beautiful way

477
00:18:32,201 --> 00:18:34,081
Speaker 4: that your human design is like synchronized.

478
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Speaker 1: That's so freaking cool for anyone listening. Should everyone get

479
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,360
Speaker 1: a human design reading done?

480
00:18:39,481 --> 00:18:42,041
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna lie I am biased. I

481
00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,200
Speaker 4: absolutely think so, because I think, like, what do you

482
00:18:44,241 --> 00:18:46,640
Speaker 4: have to lose? And I think that you know, especially

483
00:18:46,681 --> 00:18:48,361
Speaker 4: with a lot of clients, they'll introduce me to their

484
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:50,600
Speaker 4: partners and their family members. You know, I've done readings

485
00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,121
Speaker 4: for like a six month old I also recently did

486
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,160
Speaker 4: a reading for like an eighty year old client. You know,

487
00:18:55,521 --> 00:18:57,640
Speaker 4: I can get so much out of your human design,

488
00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,001
Speaker 4: whether you want to find out, Like I really feel

489
00:19:00,001 --> 00:19:02,281
Speaker 4: cool to tell people, like if you're at a turning point,

490
00:19:02,481 --> 00:19:05,761
Speaker 4: you feel burnt out, you don't know who you're right, Like, yeah,

491
00:19:05,801 --> 00:19:09,161
Speaker 4: like human design, it provides an external point of reference,

492
00:19:09,201 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 4: and I always say, use your discernment. It's not the

493
00:19:11,481 --> 00:19:13,961
Speaker 4: be all and end or human design is an experiment

494
00:19:14,041 --> 00:19:16,441
Speaker 4: and it's just so interesting. Like for example, I said

495
00:19:16,481 --> 00:19:18,161
Speaker 4: to you both, you have a really rare feature, which

496
00:19:18,201 --> 00:19:20,360
Speaker 4: is a defined heart. So you came into the world

497
00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,001
Speaker 4: with natural confidence. But when you don't have that confidence.

498
00:19:23,001 --> 00:19:25,281
Speaker 4: It makes you think, oh, that's not naturally me. This

499
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,321
Speaker 4: is you starting to realize, ah, this is what other

500
00:19:27,321 --> 00:19:29,680
Speaker 4: people are saying. That's starting to get to me. And

501
00:19:29,681 --> 00:19:32,880
Speaker 4: whereas I'm actually built to naturally be confident. So I

502
00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 4: think it gives you that point of reference and it

503
00:19:34,961 --> 00:19:37,241
Speaker 4: can be applied to all aspects of life. I help

504
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,880
Speaker 4: entrepreneur clients should they take this business deal and be

505
00:19:39,921 --> 00:19:42,880
Speaker 4: in business with this person. I've had people come thinking

506
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,360
Speaker 4: about getting a divorce or why a breakup happens. So

507
00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:47,721
Speaker 4: I think it just gives you a lot of answers

508
00:19:47,761 --> 00:19:50,480
Speaker 4: and it's very company. Yeah, and I think you just

509
00:19:50,521 --> 00:19:52,241
Speaker 4: like the number one thing that I get out of

510
00:19:52,281 --> 00:19:54,681
Speaker 4: doing readings is people say I just feel so seen

511
00:19:54,721 --> 00:19:56,961
Speaker 4: and understood, Like I feel I know people like, yeah,

512
00:19:57,001 --> 00:19:58,680
Speaker 4: I've been best friends within my whole life, and I

513
00:19:58,681 --> 00:20:01,200
Speaker 4: can really understand why they are the way they are.

514
00:20:01,241 --> 00:20:03,721
Speaker 4: Because I think human design is like saying, hey, you're

515
00:20:03,761 --> 00:20:06,041
Speaker 4: actually perfect the way that you are. We don't need

516
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 4: to like make ourselves be a certain way. If human

517
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,721
Speaker 4: design was a school, it would be saying, like, if

518
00:20:10,721 --> 00:20:13,321
Speaker 4: you're not good at matts, don't focus on that. Strengths

519
00:20:13,321 --> 00:20:15,921
Speaker 4: into art because there's somebody else out there that's really

520
00:20:15,921 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 4: good at mats that will pick that up.

521
00:20:17,321 --> 00:20:20,561
Speaker 1: Yeah for example, Yeah love that I want did a

522
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,761
Speaker 1: test online to find out my human design, but I

523
00:20:22,801 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 1: remember saying to yours like I've read it, but I

524
00:20:24,961 --> 00:20:26,721
Speaker 1: still don't quite understand it. And that's why I wanted

525
00:20:26,721 --> 00:20:28,521
Speaker 1: to book a session with you, because I needed to

526
00:20:28,521 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 1: be explained to breaking down and personalized to me. So

527
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Speaker 1: I think, like there is websites you can do the test,

528
00:20:33,441 --> 00:20:35,601
Speaker 1: but personally, I think it's so much better to go

529
00:20:35,721 --> 00:20:37,961
Speaker 1: and like book a session in and to fully understand

530
00:20:38,041 --> 00:20:40,761
Speaker 1: it and give you guidance and clarity at.

531
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Speaker 4: Human design has contradictions in the same way as humans

532
00:20:43,321 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 4: we do.

533
00:20:43,681 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: There's dualities to us.

534
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,680
Speaker 4: You know, we can be someone that you know, like

535
00:20:46,721 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 4: I said, maybe as a projector you're not meant to

536
00:20:48,441 --> 00:20:49,561
Speaker 4: be like on all the time.

537
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: But as I said, your energy is very much first energy.

538
00:20:51,921 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 4: Like when you're in that mode, something that takes somebody

539
00:20:54,681 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 4: five hours, it'll only take you two hours.

540
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Speaker 1: For example.

541
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Speaker 4: So I think it's really special to be able to

542
00:20:59,160 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 4: have that.

543
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,761
Speaker 1: That's really cool. And when you talk and do these readings,

544
00:21:03,561 --> 00:21:07,281
Speaker 1: I was surprised didn't expect it, but you get downloads

545
00:21:07,281 --> 00:21:09,561
Speaker 1: and messages. Are these from angels? From spirit?

546
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: Like?

547
00:21:09,761 --> 00:21:11,441
Speaker 1: Where are you getting these downloads from?

548
00:21:11,521 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say it's like your spiritual team. I

549
00:21:13,921 --> 00:21:16,001
Speaker 4: call it like your spiritual counsel. And it's made up

550
00:21:16,041 --> 00:21:18,161
Speaker 4: because it's saying like this isn't our first rodeo. We've

551
00:21:18,201 --> 00:21:21,601
Speaker 4: had many, many lives, and our soul essentially chooses like, hey,

552
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 4: I want to go back to Earth. And especially because

553
00:21:24,001 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 4: thirty percent of people have very calmically tight souls, you

554
00:21:26,721 --> 00:21:29,281
Speaker 4: both have that where it's like, hey, for whatever reason,

555
00:21:29,281 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 4: I didn't get to finish what I did in my

556
00:21:30,721 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 4: last lifetime, so I want to come back. So maybe

557
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,681
Speaker 4: you both have had day job voo experiences or those

558
00:21:35,721 --> 00:21:37,921
Speaker 4: people that really trigger you. They are also a sol

559
00:21:38,001 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: contract where they're like, hey, I'm going to be this

560
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,561
Speaker 4: person for you. I'm going to be the villain in

561
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,281
Speaker 4: your life, so I help you learn in the same

562
00:21:43,321 --> 00:21:45,481
Speaker 4: way maybe for someone else you might be a villain.

563
00:21:45,521 --> 00:21:47,241
Speaker 4: So I think it's interesting to think of it. That's

564
00:21:47,241 --> 00:21:49,561
Speaker 4: how I think of human Design as a movie. But yeah,

565
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,641
Speaker 4: essentially it's like loved ones that have crossed over. It's

566
00:21:52,681 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 4: like angels there's different goddesses. There might be archetypes like

567
00:21:55,961 --> 00:21:59,281
Speaker 4: KRLI is like sacred rage, for example, and so it

568
00:21:59,321 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 4: comes in and actually everybody's intuitive. I think that's a

569
00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 4: really big misconception. I wanted to clear up because this

570
00:22:05,241 --> 00:22:07,521
Speaker 4: kind of tapped in five years before I started my business,

571
00:22:07,561 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: and I kind of thought, oh, like psychics, they're like

572
00:22:09,561 --> 00:22:10,321
Speaker 4: born that way.

573
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,201
Speaker 1: But actually everybody has it. Yeah I hurt that too. Yeah,

574
00:22:13,241 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: everybody has it.

575
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,401
Speaker 4: And it sounds a little wooy, but I'm like, you've

576
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,801
Speaker 4: got to believe it to see it.

577
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,681
Speaker 1: I think it's like a game with the universe.

578
00:22:19,721 --> 00:22:22,041
Speaker 4: Like it's not saying like, oh, Universe, you do this

579
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 4: first and then I'll see Like I'm like the universe,

580
00:22:24,921 --> 00:22:27,321
Speaker 4: it's like an energetic game of tennis. You go first,

581
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,041
Speaker 4: and the universe is going to serve back at that.

582
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,881
Speaker 4: And so there's all these different practices like intuition. There's

583
00:22:32,921 --> 00:22:35,561
Speaker 4: all these different sentiences, like clear sentiences where you can

584
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,161
Speaker 4: like feel something, and so I think the best way

585
00:22:38,201 --> 00:22:41,161
Speaker 4: to develop is it is silence. Like you never get

586
00:22:41,201 --> 00:22:43,521
Speaker 4: that answer when you're rushing. You've got so much noise

587
00:22:43,521 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 4: in your head. It's kind of like this quiet calm,

588
00:22:45,681 --> 00:22:48,481
Speaker 4: like you can feel scared, but like your soul's like, no,

589
00:22:48,721 --> 00:22:49,241
Speaker 4: this is right.

590
00:22:49,281 --> 00:22:50,041
Speaker 1: That's why it happens, Like.

591
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Speaker 4: When you're in the shower right, or you're going for

592
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,400
Speaker 4: a run, like yeah, inconvenient times because you're relaxed. And

593
00:22:54,441 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: I think the best way for people to open up

594
00:22:57,041 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: is like it's like automatic writing, it's meditation, it's you know.

595
00:23:00,761 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 4: For me, I started pulling a card every day and

596
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: just trying to connect and intention isth with intuition. So

597
00:23:06,201 --> 00:23:09,161
Speaker 4: I really encourage everybody not to like outsource and put

598
00:23:09,201 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: people in a pedestal, because it's like I've just got

599
00:23:11,761 --> 00:23:13,801
Speaker 4: a phone line that's really connected from the work that

600
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 4: I've done, and everybody's got that phone line, you know,

601
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 4: it's really cool.

602
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Do you have negative downloads and messages, like say, if

603
00:23:20,281 --> 00:23:21,881
Speaker 1: you were to meet with me and you're like, oh

604
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, a death is coming or a divorce is coming,

605
00:23:24,481 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: like or you know you're gonna run out of money,

606
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: Like do you ever get those downloads and pass them on?

607
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

608
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 1: I think they're really cheeky.

609
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,041
Speaker 4: I think they always phrase it in a way because

610
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,321
Speaker 4: I often do readings in advance and they'll just be

611
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,521
Speaker 4: like something's gonna happen around this air of your life.

612
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 4: Everything's going to be okay, but we want to just

613
00:23:38,241 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 4: give you a heads up so maybe that you can

614
00:23:39,801 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 4: clear your schedule. I personally believe if people kind of

615
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,481
Speaker 4: share that upfront, you know, you don't want to cause

616
00:23:45,521 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: fear amongst that because, to be honest with you, timelines

617
00:23:48,201 --> 00:23:50,881
Speaker 4: change all the time because if you change, you make

618
00:23:50,921 --> 00:23:53,521
Speaker 4: a decision to move or something that already shifts and

619
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 4: everything right. So I always say to people like, don't

620
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,761
Speaker 4: be scared you're doing something right or wrong, because what's

621
00:23:57,801 --> 00:23:59,761
Speaker 4: meant for you is meant for you. And your spirit

622
00:23:59,801 --> 00:24:01,561
Speaker 4: team are like, oh, she took that path that's going

623
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 4: to take her two years more than what we wanted.

624
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 4: She's still gonna get there and do years time because

625
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,681
Speaker 4: our team on the other side, they love us unconditionally,

626
00:24:08,721 --> 00:24:11,241
Speaker 4: Like the universe wants us to be happy, It wants

627
00:24:11,321 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 4: us to succeed and thrive, and I think as humans

628
00:24:13,441 --> 00:24:16,241
Speaker 4: we want it to be like beautiful, sparkly rainbow, like

629
00:24:16,321 --> 00:24:20,401
Speaker 4: everything synchronized. But actually sometimes life comes with some tough challenges.

630
00:24:20,441 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: You know. That's what I ran in both of your charts,

631
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 4: like I very much felt like a grieving process for

632
00:24:24,721 --> 00:24:27,041
Speaker 4: you both moving through a lot of things. But on

633
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,321
Speaker 4: the other side, if you can feel so much sadness,

634
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,001
Speaker 4: you can also feel so much joy, like ecstasy. That's

635
00:24:32,001 --> 00:24:34,401
Speaker 4: what it means to be human and to be emotional, right,

636
00:24:35,001 --> 00:24:38,081
Speaker 4: the duality, Yeah, that's like your sole purpose very much,

637
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 4: these two parts, Like you're always going to be like

638
00:24:39,721 --> 00:24:42,801
Speaker 4: my feminine and my masculine, my introvert and my extrovert.

639
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 4: And then for you, actually it was very much about

640
00:24:44,761 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 4: introspection and like it was interesting because your sole purpose was,

641
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,801
Speaker 4: like you see, identification, how you see yourself is related

642
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,041
Speaker 4: to other people, and so when different people come in

643
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 4: and out of your life, that can be ungrounding and nerving,

644
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,921
Speaker 4: and you actually need other people to help you see

645
00:24:58,921 --> 00:25:01,761
Speaker 4: because you're like reflecting, Oh that trigger in her, Oh

646
00:25:01,761 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 4: that's a trigger in me. Those are those things. So

647
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 4: it's such a quite a d soule path that you

648
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,321
Speaker 4: both have. Because I think I was saying for you actually,

649
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:10,241
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of focus, a lot of mental energies,

650
00:25:10,281 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: and we know what's happened because it's like you worry

651
00:25:12,721 --> 00:25:14,921
Speaker 4: so much about other people and what they're doing, and

652
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 4: one of your main life energies was enthusiasm, Like, I

653
00:25:18,001 --> 00:25:20,321
Speaker 4: actually have so many entrepreneur clients that are really wealthy

654
00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,641
Speaker 4: because of it, because you're really here to teach people.

655
00:25:22,681 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 4: When you do what you love, that is how you

656
00:25:24,961 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 4: come across abundance. But people think it's the other way. Oh,

657
00:25:27,201 --> 00:25:28,321
Speaker 4: when I get the money, I'll.

658
00:25:28,201 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: Be happy, but it's not true. Yeah, that's really cool.

659
00:25:30,721 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: That's so cool.

660
00:25:31,561 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: I would love to know a little bit more actually

661
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: about your journey before human Design and now after, Like

662
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,521
Speaker 2: how do you feel like using human design and using

663
00:25:38,561 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: it as your compass for life has really helped you

664
00:25:40,681 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 2: live on path like with where you're meant to be?

665
00:25:43,241 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: Do we have like five hours? Well, I feel like

666
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,481
Speaker 4: it just really validating, gave me permission to be myself.

667
00:25:50,521 --> 00:25:53,801
Speaker 4: I think the number one thing was like embracing the fact.

668
00:25:53,521 --> 00:25:54,281
Speaker 1: I was emotional.

669
00:25:54,321 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 4: I think we already have that stacked against us as

670
00:25:56,481 --> 00:25:59,321
Speaker 4: women and growing up Asian Australian, Like it's very much

671
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,521
Speaker 4: like how you represent yourself in the world affects the

672
00:26:01,561 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: face of your family. Yeah, so we're trying not to

673
00:26:03,721 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: be emotional because I think many cultures it's deemed as

674
00:26:06,281 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 4: a weakness. And I love that as women and the

675
00:26:08,681 --> 00:26:11,561
Speaker 4: feminine we're reclaiming like, no, our emotions are a power.

676
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,241
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's how I believe I'm so intuitive because

677
00:26:14,281 --> 00:26:16,441
Speaker 4: I can find tune. It's like a radio signal, right,

678
00:26:16,921 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 4: going into that. And so I think learning that was

679
00:26:19,201 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: meant to be emotional, like because I was uming and

680
00:26:20,961 --> 00:26:23,761
Speaker 4: ring about quitting my corporate job for a while and that.

681
00:26:23,801 --> 00:26:24,721
Speaker 1: Was the emotional waves.

682
00:26:24,761 --> 00:26:26,521
Speaker 4: Like sometimes it's like two hours where you're like, yeah,

683
00:26:26,561 --> 00:26:28,561
Speaker 4: this retreat's meant to be, and for me, it was

684
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: almost nine months of like, oh do I do this?

685
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,961
Speaker 4: Do I not? And so I think for me personally,

686
00:26:33,001 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: like learning my main life energy's struggle and I've had

687
00:26:36,521 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 4: a lot of things happen to me, like when I

688
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,561
Speaker 4: just turned twenty, my dad died and that just like

689
00:26:40,681 --> 00:26:43,321
Speaker 4: completely changed my life because I was like, that's not

690
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,481
Speaker 4: how life's meant to go, Like you're not meant to go.

691
00:26:45,961 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: And I think I went through all this hardship and

692
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 4: I was like, how am I going to get out

693
00:26:48,681 --> 00:26:51,041
Speaker 4: of this? Feeling really down at points, to be honest,

694
00:26:51,521 --> 00:26:53,961
Speaker 4: feeling so numb as an emotional person and not wanting

695
00:26:54,001 --> 00:26:56,601
Speaker 4: to continue, and then later on learning like, but that's

696
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,961
Speaker 4: your main life energy because You're here to help people

697
00:26:59,001 --> 00:27:02,161
Speaker 4: turn pain into power, pain into purpose. So I was like, oh,

698
00:27:02,281 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 4: like life isn't some this random jiggle of events, Like

699
00:27:05,921 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 4: there's this purpose to it. So I think that was

700
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: really validating. And I think the biggest gift that I

701
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,521
Speaker 4: can give as somebody to be able to see somebody.

702
00:27:13,561 --> 00:27:15,841
Speaker 4: I think people think, oh, we have to solve other

703
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,241
Speaker 4: people's problems, we need to jump in, but actually, I

704
00:27:18,281 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 4: think the most loving healing thing is seeing somebody for

705
00:27:21,201 --> 00:27:24,001
Speaker 4: who they are, yeah, and just saying like, hey, you're amazing,

706
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: like that's not a bad part of you. So I

707
00:27:26,241 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 4: think that's something that's been really special. And you know,

708
00:27:28,681 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: just being able to guide people whether it's in love

709
00:27:31,921 --> 00:27:33,721
Speaker 4: or in their career, I think is really.

710
00:27:33,521 --> 00:27:36,801
Speaker 1: Special as well. That's so nice, beautiful home mak. You

711
00:27:36,801 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: said that at the start that when people booking sessions

712
00:27:39,001 --> 00:27:40,681
Speaker 1: with you that they do feel that they feel seen,

713
00:27:40,721 --> 00:27:41,721
Speaker 1: they feel understood.

714
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: So beautiful, and it formed the basis of my book,

715
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,001
Speaker 4: which is called The Great on Learning, because I think

716
00:27:47,041 --> 00:27:49,801
Speaker 4: people think, oh, in life personal development, you've got to

717
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,801
Speaker 4: learn more, Like I don't know enough. But I feel

718
00:27:51,801 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 4: like from working with so many clients, it's like you

719
00:27:53,961 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 4: already know enough, but stuff that doesn't serve you, and

720
00:27:56,441 --> 00:27:58,561
Speaker 4: you've just got to get that all out. Like why

721
00:27:58,561 --> 00:28:00,801
Speaker 4: do you think success looks this way? Why do you

722
00:28:00,801 --> 00:28:02,441
Speaker 4: think by this to age at your life you should

723
00:28:02,441 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: have accomplished that. So I think it's very much this

724
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,321
Speaker 4: process of unlearning and deconditioning from who the world tells

725
00:28:08,321 --> 00:28:10,521
Speaker 4: you to be and actually returning. That's the essence of

726
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,121
Speaker 4: human design, who you actually are.

727
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,201
Speaker 2: It's like the Michelangelo effect, like yes, yeah, where it's

728
00:28:16,201 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: like under the star and it's like that was this

729
00:28:17,961 --> 00:28:21,041
Speaker 2: beautiful sculpture, but it's like chipping away everything that wasn't

730
00:28:21,441 --> 00:28:24,161
Speaker 2: him so that he could like emerge and like come through,

731
00:28:24,321 --> 00:28:26,281
Speaker 2: and like that's cool. What you just said reminded me

732
00:28:26,321 --> 00:28:28,881
Speaker 2: a lot of that of it is like the great unlearning.

733
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: That's such a beautiful book name as well. I mean

734
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,081
Speaker 2: he's so down to read that.

735
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: Like I honestly say to myself, like the universe had

736
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,041
Speaker 4: a better plan than me than I ever expected, a

737
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 4: life beyond my wildest dreams. Like you use me tingles,

738
00:28:39,241 --> 00:28:41,441
Speaker 4: and I'm like so grateful for everything.

739
00:28:41,601 --> 00:28:42,681
Speaker 1: And so for.

740
00:28:42,601 --> 00:28:44,961
Speaker 4: Example, like how you do self love, it might be

741
00:28:45,241 --> 00:28:47,601
Speaker 4: face masks and Bubba Bush. Sure, and for other people

742
00:28:47,641 --> 00:28:50,041
Speaker 4: it'll be like quitting their job because it doesn't light them.

743
00:28:50,001 --> 00:28:50,601
Speaker 1: Up so much.

744
00:28:50,841 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, do you mind if I turn a

745
00:28:52,481 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: question on you guys? No, absolutely, because I always talk

746
00:28:54,761 --> 00:28:56,761
Speaker 4: about unlearning. So I'm like, oh, what is the biggest

747
00:28:56,761 --> 00:28:58,561
Speaker 4: thing that you've had to unlearn your life? So I'm

748
00:28:58,601 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 4: very curious if you thought about what you had to unlearn,

749
00:29:01,521 --> 00:29:03,601
Speaker 4: and I think maybe I'll start se have some time

750
00:29:03,641 --> 00:29:06,321
Speaker 4: to think. But ah, for me, I always thought like success,

751
00:29:06,321 --> 00:29:07,721
Speaker 4: I had to be at the top of my career,

752
00:29:07,721 --> 00:29:09,121
Speaker 4: I had to be married at a certain age, and

753
00:29:09,121 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 4: it just put so much pressure on myself and I

754
00:29:11,481 --> 00:29:14,281
Speaker 4: never actually stopped to question weight why am I thinking

755
00:29:14,321 --> 00:29:17,041
Speaker 4: this way? And Human Design's like, yeah, use your discernment.

756
00:29:17,081 --> 00:29:18,681
Speaker 4: Where did you get that idea from? Was it the

757
00:29:18,721 --> 00:29:21,521
Speaker 4: way that you saw your parents their marriage or was

758
00:29:21,561 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: it you read a book and you thought that, or

759
00:29:23,521 --> 00:29:25,241
Speaker 4: maybe you watched a movie and you thought, oh, that's

760
00:29:25,241 --> 00:29:27,601
Speaker 4: how love is, and then when it happens, you're like, oh,

761
00:29:27,681 --> 00:29:28,801
Speaker 4: I'm not sure this is love.

762
00:29:29,001 --> 00:29:31,961
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I had to unlearn that me being

763
00:29:32,041 --> 00:29:34,841
Speaker 1: perfect is how it's going to be loved. But actually

764
00:29:35,161 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: my imperfections as how I'm more loved, more respected, and

765
00:29:39,001 --> 00:29:42,401
Speaker 1: more connected with everyone. And it's like that pedestal thing

766
00:29:42,681 --> 00:29:45,001
Speaker 1: taking the responsibility. When I was put on a pedestal,

767
00:29:45,281 --> 00:29:46,881
Speaker 1: I was then trying to be perfect, because that's why

768
00:29:46,921 --> 00:29:48,841
Speaker 1: I thought people loved me for that. But then I

769
00:29:48,881 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: took myself off. Other people took me off, and I

770
00:29:51,521 --> 00:29:53,841
Speaker 1: was just my authentic self. And then I felt like

771
00:29:53,881 --> 00:29:56,281
Speaker 1: my community, my bonds, and my connections and all the

772
00:29:56,281 --> 00:29:59,881
Speaker 1: things I valued started to come together and feel so

773
00:29:59,961 --> 00:30:03,001
Speaker 1: much more stable and strong and grounding. So I had

774
00:30:03,001 --> 00:30:05,281
Speaker 1: to unlearn that perfectionism. Yeah.

775
00:30:05,321 --> 00:30:07,401
Speaker 4: I talk a lot about that whole pressure. I'm sure

776
00:30:07,401 --> 00:30:09,121
Speaker 4: you guys have felt like to be that good girl.

777
00:30:09,361 --> 00:30:13,441
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, nor relates to that damn girl.

778
00:30:13,681 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 4: When you're that good girl and that nice girl and

779
00:30:15,521 --> 00:30:17,961
Speaker 4: you actually realize like you do come last because you're

780
00:30:18,001 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: that person staying the office till whatnot late, or you're

781
00:30:20,521 --> 00:30:22,281
Speaker 4: the one that's paying up baking your cake and everybody

782
00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:24,881
Speaker 4: else is sleeping howly, And it's not like being a

783
00:30:24,921 --> 00:30:27,881
Speaker 4: mean person. It's understanding. When you put yourself first and

784
00:30:27,921 --> 00:30:30,001
Speaker 4: you have more energy, it's like this ripple effect, Like

785
00:30:30,041 --> 00:30:32,121
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't just have a full cup, babe, it's

786
00:30:32,161 --> 00:30:33,121
Speaker 4: gonna be like overflowing.

787
00:30:33,161 --> 00:30:34,921
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I give it to other people.

788
00:30:35,121 --> 00:30:38,481
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, mine was actually the same.

789
00:30:39,241 --> 00:30:39,921
Speaker 1: Are we surprised?

790
00:30:39,961 --> 00:30:43,321
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the biggest thing for me has

791
00:30:43,361 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: been unlearning the beliefs that I have to be perfect. Yeah,

792
00:30:46,521 --> 00:30:48,961
Speaker 2: Because for the longest time, I always thought that the

793
00:30:48,961 --> 00:30:52,601
Speaker 2: more perfected, more curated, more well put together version of

794
00:30:52,641 --> 00:30:54,881
Speaker 2: me was always going to be more well received, more

795
00:30:54,881 --> 00:30:58,601
Speaker 2: well respected, more well loved, and give other people more

796
00:30:58,641 --> 00:31:00,641
Speaker 2: of a reason to want to stick around and not leave.

797
00:31:01,201 --> 00:31:03,881
Speaker 2: And then when I started to uphold that, I got

798
00:31:04,001 --> 00:31:06,561
Speaker 2: kind of sucked into it, and I just felt like

799
00:31:06,641 --> 00:31:09,081
Speaker 2: I could never drop the persona of being perfect. And

800
00:31:09,121 --> 00:31:11,041
Speaker 2: it's still something that comes up for me now where

801
00:31:11,041 --> 00:31:13,881
Speaker 2: I really have to like shed the part of me

802
00:31:13,961 --> 00:31:16,161
Speaker 2: that wants to just be this perfectly curated version. And

803
00:31:16,161 --> 00:31:18,321
Speaker 2: I think the podcast has taught me a lot about that,

804
00:31:18,721 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: Like coming on the podcast has really allowed me to

805
00:31:21,401 --> 00:31:24,641
Speaker 2: show more of a vulnerable version of myself, like more messy,

806
00:31:24,801 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: more fucking spicy, more bitchy, all of the things. And

807
00:31:28,481 --> 00:31:30,601
Speaker 2: we even had a conversation about this the other day

808
00:31:30,961 --> 00:31:32,281
Speaker 2: and she was like, you don't have to be so

809
00:31:32,401 --> 00:31:35,081
Speaker 2: nice all the time, like it's okay, Like actually, after

810
00:31:35,161 --> 00:31:37,361
Speaker 2: my reading, yeah, yeah, and it was really coolse like

811
00:31:37,401 --> 00:31:39,721
Speaker 2: holy shit, Yeah, I don't have to be so nice

812
00:31:39,761 --> 00:31:41,681
Speaker 2: all the time, and not to the point where I'm

813
00:31:41,681 --> 00:31:44,561
Speaker 2: abandoning myself to be nice. You know. It's like I

814
00:31:44,561 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: can be kind, and I genuinely have that urge and

815
00:31:47,241 --> 00:31:50,521
Speaker 2: desire to be kind and nice to other people, but

816
00:31:50,641 --> 00:31:52,801
Speaker 2: not to the degree that I'm abandoning myself.

817
00:31:53,401 --> 00:31:55,361
Speaker 4: Yeah. I feel like we have that fear as women. Hey,

818
00:31:55,561 --> 00:31:57,361
Speaker 4: we're like don't want to be seen as me. Yeah,

819
00:31:57,401 --> 00:31:59,881
Speaker 4: but sometimes your intuition goes there's something not right about

820
00:31:59,881 --> 00:32:02,561
Speaker 4: this situation yea. Or it's like we kind of want

821
00:32:02,601 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: to believe in the best of people, and then that

822
00:32:04,321 --> 00:32:06,681
Speaker 4: leads us open to you know, human design says we

823
00:32:06,721 --> 00:32:09,281
Speaker 4: can be manipulated when people try to bestow a sense

824
00:32:09,321 --> 00:32:11,881
Speaker 4: of validation or our worth upon us. It's okay to

825
00:32:11,881 --> 00:32:14,561
Speaker 4: be protective. I think it's good to like follow your

826
00:32:14,561 --> 00:32:16,401
Speaker 4: heart and lead that way, but you have to also

827
00:32:16,481 --> 00:32:20,321
Speaker 4: protect yourself because we don't know what people what they

828
00:32:20,361 --> 00:32:22,161
Speaker 4: want or anything. And I think is when we feel

829
00:32:22,161 --> 00:32:23,121
Speaker 4: bad for that, Like why are we.

830
00:32:23,081 --> 00:32:23,841
Speaker 1: Always feeling bad?

831
00:32:23,881 --> 00:32:26,401
Speaker 4: Like sated client's like, you know, like men that will

832
00:32:26,401 --> 00:32:28,601
Speaker 4: always go for a job, like even if they're not qualified,

833
00:32:28,721 --> 00:32:29,521
Speaker 4: like yeah, I could do.

834
00:32:29,481 --> 00:32:30,361
Speaker 1: That, I'm just going to try.

835
00:32:30,481 --> 00:32:32,001
Speaker 4: Yeah, And we're like, oh, I don't tick like every

836
00:32:32,001 --> 00:32:33,761
Speaker 4: single box on that job description, so I'm not going

837
00:32:33,841 --> 00:32:36,281
Speaker 4: to even apply. And I feel like that's something I'm

838
00:32:36,281 --> 00:32:39,161
Speaker 4: sure you both speak about because your human designers said,

839
00:32:39,201 --> 00:32:43,921
Speaker 4: like your superpowers individually and together is really teaching women confidence. Yes,

840
00:32:44,761 --> 00:32:46,481
Speaker 4: that's a huge and I think for you guys to say,

841
00:32:46,521 --> 00:32:48,321
Speaker 4: like confidence doesn't mean perfectionism.

842
00:32:48,601 --> 00:32:51,561
Speaker 3: No, definitely being comfortable in your own skin.

843
00:32:51,921 --> 00:32:53,961
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you would love to leave us

844
00:32:54,001 --> 00:32:56,761
Speaker 1: with or you know how you said there's five about Yeah,

845
00:32:56,761 --> 00:32:58,921
Speaker 1: what was the other three? Yes, let's get other other types.

846
00:32:59,241 --> 00:33:00,121
Speaker 1: It's not leave the hanging.

847
00:33:00,961 --> 00:33:04,201
Speaker 4: So we talked about generators and manifesting generators. So we're

848
00:33:04,481 --> 00:33:07,761
Speaker 4: concentrating manifesting generators as you are one, Tiana, but as

849
00:33:07,761 --> 00:33:10,201
Speaker 4: they mentioned to recap, so generators are very much more

850
00:33:10,241 --> 00:33:13,881
Speaker 4: focused beings. They're energetic, they're like the fires. And again,

851
00:33:13,961 --> 00:33:16,881
Speaker 4: both generators and manifesting generators, it's like be turned on.

852
00:33:17,321 --> 00:33:20,121
Speaker 4: That's the energetic signature be really and I said, so

853
00:33:20,161 --> 00:33:23,761
Speaker 4: alignment is very much about satisfaction for generators and manifesting generates.

854
00:33:23,801 --> 00:33:26,721
Speaker 4: It's like that you know and feel like, oh yeah,

855
00:33:26,761 --> 00:33:29,721
Speaker 4: like that feels really good. It's like natural, it's effortless,

856
00:33:29,801 --> 00:33:32,321
Speaker 4: it's easy. You know, you wake up, you're excited, and

857
00:33:32,361 --> 00:33:35,201
Speaker 4: people can feel that in your energy. When you're not yourself,

858
00:33:35,201 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: you're out of alignment in human design terms. And we

859
00:33:37,281 --> 00:33:40,201
Speaker 4: were talking about frustration, Yeah, and that is like impatience,

860
00:33:40,281 --> 00:33:43,521
Speaker 4: like angry, and I think especially also for women, we

861
00:33:43,561 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 4: feel really scared to be angry. Yeah, And I always say, like,

862
00:33:46,641 --> 00:33:50,081
Speaker 4: you know, there's no morality to emotions. They're all beautiful,

863
00:33:50,161 --> 00:33:52,041
Speaker 4: of course, like how you deal with your anger that's

864
00:33:52,041 --> 00:33:54,841
Speaker 4: a different question, but you know, we say it's like

865
00:33:54,921 --> 00:33:56,481
Speaker 4: sacred anger and sacred rage.

866
00:33:56,521 --> 00:33:57,361
Speaker 1: Like that gets us.

867
00:33:57,241 --> 00:33:59,601
Speaker 4: Motivated because when you're like sad girling, like you're sad,

868
00:33:59,641 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 4: you're not doing much. But when you get that like

869
00:34:02,041 --> 00:34:04,561
Speaker 4: firing you to do something and it motivates you, that's

870
00:34:04,601 --> 00:34:08,161
Speaker 4: really power. So that's like the energetic signature for generators

871
00:34:08,161 --> 00:34:11,401
Speaker 4: and manifesting generators. So projectors are very much the natural

872
00:34:11,401 --> 00:34:13,201
Speaker 4: guides of this earth. You can think of them as

873
00:34:13,201 --> 00:34:15,721
Speaker 4: a lighthouse. They are like the birds that are flying high,

874
00:34:15,761 --> 00:34:17,441
Speaker 4: they can kind of see ahead of their time. And

875
00:34:17,481 --> 00:34:19,721
Speaker 4: I think I was saying to you, actually, projectors have

876
00:34:19,761 --> 00:34:23,001
Speaker 4: this natural level of higher consciousness. And that means like

877
00:34:23,041 --> 00:34:25,121
Speaker 4: when you see your friends, you might know exactly why

878
00:34:25,161 --> 00:34:27,321
Speaker 4: things are not working out with her husband. But if

879
00:34:27,321 --> 00:34:29,601
Speaker 4: you say it and you didn't get the invitation, oh,

880
00:34:29,841 --> 00:34:32,881
Speaker 4: even though you're say correct, you know very much people

881
00:34:32,921 --> 00:34:35,001
Speaker 4: see you as judgmental or mean or critical.

882
00:34:35,041 --> 00:34:38,361
Speaker 1: I think have you had that in your oinite too forward.

883
00:34:38,121 --> 00:34:42,881
Speaker 4: To That's why it's saying like, hey, wait, please, it's

884
00:34:42,921 --> 00:34:46,081
Speaker 4: like waiting for that invitation, either creating it by saying like, hey,

885
00:34:46,161 --> 00:34:48,521
Speaker 4: do you actually want me to give my advice, my

886
00:34:48,561 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 4: honest opinion or do you just want me to listen

887
00:34:50,641 --> 00:34:52,921
Speaker 4: and be a friend. And I think as projectors is

888
00:34:53,001 --> 00:34:56,481
Speaker 4: understanding your energy type is different so very much for

889
00:34:56,601 --> 00:35:00,361
Speaker 4: generators manifesting generators, it's a constant source of energy. If

890
00:35:00,401 --> 00:35:02,441
Speaker 4: you don't have that constant source, that's saying there's not

891
00:35:02,561 --> 00:35:03,681
Speaker 4: enough lit upness.

892
00:35:03,401 --> 00:35:03,801
Speaker 1: In your life.

893
00:35:03,921 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: Essentially, you know, people think think they're burnt out because

894
00:35:06,441 --> 00:35:08,441
Speaker 4: they're doing too much, But I'm saying you're burnt out

895
00:35:08,441 --> 00:35:10,121
Speaker 4: because you're not doing enough of the things that make

896
00:35:10,161 --> 00:35:13,121
Speaker 4: you feel alive. Love that For a projector, it's actually

897
00:35:13,161 --> 00:35:16,121
Speaker 4: like you need breaks and naps. Projectors very much take

898
00:35:16,121 --> 00:35:18,041
Speaker 4: in a lot of other people's energy and so you

899
00:35:18,121 --> 00:35:20,041
Speaker 4: need to kind of exert it, let it.

900
00:35:19,961 --> 00:35:20,481
Speaker 1: Move through you.

901
00:35:20,561 --> 00:35:22,601
Speaker 4: I mean, especially for your human design. As she it

902
00:35:22,641 --> 00:35:24,761
Speaker 4: was like, you need focus. Focus was one of your

903
00:35:24,801 --> 00:35:26,841
Speaker 4: main energies. Like I bet when you're here doing business,

904
00:35:26,841 --> 00:35:28,681
Speaker 4: that's all you're thinking about. But when you're at home

905
00:35:28,681 --> 00:35:30,721
Speaker 4: with your kids, you're like, I'm dedicating all of my dad.

906
00:35:31,561 --> 00:35:32,281
Speaker 3: We're talking about this.

907
00:35:32,241 --> 00:35:34,321
Speaker 1: The other day. Wherever I am.

908
00:35:34,321 --> 00:35:36,641
Speaker 2: Present, wherever she is, whatever she's doing, no matter who

909
00:35:36,641 --> 00:35:38,201
Speaker 2: she's she's so present. Yeah.

910
00:35:38,441 --> 00:35:40,961
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I said to, projectors are all about that details.

911
00:35:41,001 --> 00:35:42,761
Speaker 4: And I was saying in our reading the analogy when

912
00:35:43,041 --> 00:35:44,521
Speaker 4: you're looking at a leaf and you're like I can't

913
00:35:44,561 --> 00:35:46,561
Speaker 4: see the tree, and you're like, oh, because I'm so

914
00:35:46,761 --> 00:35:49,321
Speaker 4: zoomed in on that leaf. Yeah, And so projectors are

915
00:35:49,361 --> 00:35:52,481
Speaker 4: very much that guide and understanding. Waiting for the invitation

916
00:35:52,681 --> 00:35:55,641
Speaker 4: ensures your success, you know, very much, seeing that they're like,

917
00:35:55,761 --> 00:35:58,081
Speaker 4: you're here, we want your help. We want to give

918
00:35:58,081 --> 00:36:00,601
Speaker 4: you our money, our time, our energy, and our resources.

919
00:36:00,601 --> 00:36:02,921
Speaker 4: So understanding you aren't meant to be a worker bee

920
00:36:02,921 --> 00:36:04,481
Speaker 4: all the time. That's why we have all these different

921
00:36:04,561 --> 00:36:07,681
Speaker 4: human design nine types that come together. For you. Alignment

922
00:36:07,801 --> 00:36:11,321
Speaker 4: means success, and that's very much redefining what success means.

923
00:36:11,321 --> 00:36:13,041
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I've been to that place

924
00:36:13,081 --> 00:36:14,721
Speaker 4: where I had the money, I had the career, I

925
00:36:14,721 --> 00:36:16,601
Speaker 4: had the partner, and I was like, something is still

926
00:36:16,601 --> 00:36:19,481
Speaker 4: missing because I had to redefine what does success mean?

927
00:36:19,561 --> 00:36:20,841
Speaker 4: What do you think, Ashy about that?

928
00:36:20,881 --> 00:36:23,441
Speaker 1: Oh, I've definitely been there the same thing. Had all

929
00:36:23,481 --> 00:36:25,641
Speaker 1: the money in the world, the cars, the big mansion,

930
00:36:25,761 --> 00:36:29,001
Speaker 1: the husband, the kid, and something was missing. Yeah, and

931
00:36:29,081 --> 00:36:31,201
Speaker 1: even like, yeah, last year I closed down a business

932
00:36:31,241 --> 00:36:33,081
Speaker 1: and I want to do this full time and it

933
00:36:33,081 --> 00:36:36,121
Speaker 1: doesn't pay nearly as well as at the business did. Yeah,

934
00:36:36,241 --> 00:36:41,041
Speaker 1: not yet yet, But it just feels so right that

935
00:36:41,081 --> 00:36:44,481
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter, you know. Yeah, I really feel that.

936
00:36:44,601 --> 00:36:46,281
Speaker 4: And that speaks to your transit, which I said was

937
00:36:46,321 --> 00:36:49,641
Speaker 4: like consciousness and coming up and so yeah, very much

938
00:36:49,681 --> 00:36:52,601
Speaker 4: success is that signature. But when you're out of alignment

939
00:36:52,681 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: for you as a projector, that's bitterness. And I say,

940
00:36:55,441 --> 00:36:57,601
Speaker 4: there's this loop where you feel really needy, you perceive

941
00:36:57,641 --> 00:37:00,281
Speaker 4: yourself as demanding, you're trying to force things, and then

942
00:37:00,361 --> 00:37:02,001
Speaker 4: you can get into that mode where you're either like

943
00:37:02,041 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 4: ooh or you're just like really quiet and you're doing

944
00:37:04,481 --> 00:37:08,961
Speaker 4: nothing about finding that and understanding again these emotions bitter frustration,

945
00:37:09,001 --> 00:37:11,161
Speaker 4: they're not bad. And then the other types, which are

946
00:37:11,161 --> 00:37:13,881
Speaker 4: more rare, is a manifesto. They make up ten percent

947
00:37:13,921 --> 00:37:16,281
Speaker 4: of this world. And when we say rare, very, yeah,

948
00:37:16,361 --> 00:37:18,401
Speaker 4: we're more rare because they're kind of like the old Guard.

949
00:37:18,481 --> 00:37:21,081
Speaker 4: So projectors like yourself are like the new wave of

950
00:37:21,361 --> 00:37:23,161
Speaker 4: leadership doing things differently.

951
00:37:23,401 --> 00:37:25,001
Speaker 1: Manifest as we say they're the old Guard.

952
00:37:25,041 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: They've reincarnated, but they're like this lifetime, we want peace,

953
00:37:27,601 --> 00:37:28,641
Speaker 4: but the other people rule.

954
00:37:29,121 --> 00:37:29,921
Speaker 1: Let us have peace.

955
00:37:29,961 --> 00:37:32,361
Speaker 4: And so manifestors are those go getters, you know, those people.

956
00:37:32,561 --> 00:37:34,801
Speaker 4: They're the only type where that people say you should

957
00:37:34,801 --> 00:37:37,321
Speaker 4: go after what you want. That's them because everybody else

958
00:37:37,361 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: you're responding to something from the universe, an invitation, you're

959
00:37:40,481 --> 00:37:43,601
Speaker 4: responding to like a signal, and so very much manifestors

960
00:37:43,601 --> 00:37:48,521
Speaker 4: they're like spicy fireworks, bold trailblazers, and they're very much

961
00:37:48,561 --> 00:37:51,801
Speaker 4: often misunderstood. So when I find manifestors, find out they're

962
00:37:51,801 --> 00:37:54,361
Speaker 4: a manifesto they are like, oh, because the number one

963
00:37:54,361 --> 00:37:56,801
Speaker 4: thing is about control and very much as a child

964
00:37:56,841 --> 00:38:00,561
Speaker 4: feeling controlled, overcoming that, they're like misunderstood. Their energy is

965
00:38:00,681 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: very much a repelling aura. And the wu Woo term

966
00:38:03,561 --> 00:38:06,481
Speaker 4: is like human design says their shouldering the burden of humanity.

967
00:38:06,481 --> 00:38:09,161
Speaker 4: In the same way when you're calmic souls triggering people,

968
00:38:09,201 --> 00:38:12,121
Speaker 4: you're shouldering that burden. Manifestos do that just by their

969
00:38:12,121 --> 00:38:14,321
Speaker 4: presence people, you know, like just being in a room

970
00:38:14,361 --> 00:38:17,601
Speaker 4: can irritate people, and so manifest is, yeah, they're really

971
00:38:17,641 --> 00:38:20,761
Speaker 4: here to be that spark. Again, they're like the fire starters,

972
00:38:20,761 --> 00:38:23,321
Speaker 4: but they may not finish everything. And for them, as

973
00:38:23,321 --> 00:38:26,081
Speaker 4: they said, they're signatures. They just want peace, and when

974
00:38:26,121 --> 00:38:28,361
Speaker 4: they're not themselves, they have anger, and again that's what

975
00:38:28,361 --> 00:38:31,321
Speaker 4: they're moving through when they're not themselves. The final energy

976
00:38:31,361 --> 00:38:33,081
Speaker 4: type is what we call reflector.

977
00:38:33,121 --> 00:38:35,241
Speaker 1: They're very special. They're one percent of the world.

978
00:38:35,441 --> 00:38:35,761
Speaker 2: Wow.

979
00:38:35,881 --> 00:38:37,561
Speaker 1: Yeah, so very rare to meet them.

980
00:38:37,681 --> 00:38:40,041
Speaker 4: And I say they're like a living mirror. They're very

981
00:38:40,081 --> 00:38:42,161
Speaker 4: much that person you have in a friend group or

982
00:38:42,161 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: in your business, your community where they can just see

983
00:38:44,961 --> 00:38:46,841
Speaker 4: what's going on. So like these I always think of

984
00:38:46,881 --> 00:38:49,041
Speaker 4: it like that tree in Pokahontas. You know that wise

985
00:38:49,081 --> 00:38:51,921
Speaker 4: guide people say they're like the canaries in the mines.

986
00:38:51,921 --> 00:38:54,721
Speaker 4: They're very much the barometer. They can feel things and

987
00:38:54,761 --> 00:38:57,641
Speaker 4: they see things in such a different way. And unlike

988
00:38:57,681 --> 00:38:59,681
Speaker 4: the rest of the types ninety nine percent were ruled

989
00:38:59,681 --> 00:39:01,801
Speaker 4: by the sun, they're ruled by the moon. So the

990
00:39:01,841 --> 00:39:04,201
Speaker 4: moon cycle is very important for them. And when they're

991
00:39:04,201 --> 00:39:07,841
Speaker 4: in alignment, they feel surprised, which is really fun, very unexpected,

992
00:39:07,921 --> 00:39:10,681
Speaker 4: very unpredictable in their lives. And then so when they're

993
00:39:10,721 --> 00:39:14,161
Speaker 4: out of alignment, they feel disappointed, and so life's always

994
00:39:14,161 --> 00:39:16,281
Speaker 4: really changing for them. So that's why, like I mean,

995
00:39:16,321 --> 00:39:18,561
Speaker 4: I've just given you like a little taste of human design.

996
00:39:18,601 --> 00:39:22,801
Speaker 4: You know what we're going through. Was talking about personality, energy, centers, soul, purpose,

997
00:39:22,881 --> 00:39:25,161
Speaker 4: the future, Like there's just so many layers. But I

998
00:39:25,161 --> 00:39:27,601
Speaker 4: think I really encourage if you feel that pool of

999
00:39:27,681 --> 00:39:29,361
Speaker 4: curiosity to dive deeper.

1000
00:39:29,401 --> 00:39:31,481
Speaker 1: Do a bit of research, come do a reading. Like

1001
00:39:31,561 --> 00:39:32,681
Speaker 1: it's just so special.

1002
00:39:32,841 --> 00:39:35,441
Speaker 2: I think the words that you used around human design

1003
00:39:35,481 --> 00:39:37,961
Speaker 2: being a compass and something that you can use to

1004
00:39:38,001 --> 00:39:40,361
Speaker 2: support you in going in the direction that you want to.

1005
00:39:40,281 --> 00:39:42,041
Speaker 3: Go in, and that is actually meant for you.

1006
00:39:42,081 --> 00:39:44,801
Speaker 2: It almost is like confirmation for the most part that

1007
00:39:44,841 --> 00:39:46,681
Speaker 2: like you're on the right track, that you're doing the

1008
00:39:46,761 --> 00:39:49,961
Speaker 2: right things. And it's cool to also hear your perspective

1009
00:39:49,961 --> 00:39:53,001
Speaker 2: when you tap into our energy of what comes through

1010
00:39:53,041 --> 00:39:54,201
Speaker 2: for you. Because some of the things that you said,

1011
00:39:54,241 --> 00:39:55,521
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, that's me to a

1012
00:39:55,601 --> 00:39:56,881
Speaker 2: t Like, holy shit, you.

1013
00:39:56,921 --> 00:39:59,001
Speaker 1: Know, coach, you have a deeper understanding about yourself and

1014
00:39:59,041 --> 00:40:01,801
Speaker 1: why you are where you are and where you're going. Yeah,

1015
00:40:01,841 --> 00:40:02,401
Speaker 1: really cool.

1016
00:40:02,481 --> 00:40:05,321
Speaker 2: And then even learning things that you know maybe you feel,

1017
00:40:05,961 --> 00:40:08,561
Speaker 2: but you're able to see and feel that energy as well,

1018
00:40:08,601 --> 00:40:11,081
Speaker 2: and actually hearing that from somebody else is like an

1019
00:40:11,121 --> 00:40:13,441
Speaker 2: instant confirmation like, oh my god, like I've felt this

1020
00:40:13,521 --> 00:40:14,161
Speaker 2: my whole life.

1021
00:40:14,241 --> 00:40:16,361
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good reminder that you actually reminded

1022
00:40:16,401 --> 00:40:18,721
Speaker 4: me about, because I think human design kind of shows

1023
00:40:18,761 --> 00:40:20,881
Speaker 4: you the things that you think are so easy they're

1024
00:40:20,881 --> 00:40:23,241
Speaker 4: actually your gifts. And so it's so funny, like we

1025
00:40:23,321 --> 00:40:25,321
Speaker 4: come into this world thinking we have to really struggle

1026
00:40:25,361 --> 00:40:27,601
Speaker 4: to make money and work really hard trying to learn

1027
00:40:27,641 --> 00:40:29,241
Speaker 4: how to do a job, But like, doesn't it make

1028
00:40:29,281 --> 00:40:31,001
Speaker 4: sense that we spend so much time at work. It

1029
00:40:31,041 --> 00:40:33,041
Speaker 4: should be effortless and easy, like do the thing that

1030
00:40:33,121 --> 00:40:35,281
Speaker 4: actually feels good and you love it. Yeah, because you're

1031
00:40:35,321 --> 00:40:37,001
Speaker 4: going to be so abundant from doing that. So I

1032
00:40:37,001 --> 00:40:40,041
Speaker 4: think it's very much be p of advice your life easy,

1033
00:40:40,081 --> 00:40:42,201
Speaker 4: Like why like that's already hard, Like we don't need

1034
00:40:42,241 --> 00:40:42,921
Speaker 4: to make it harder.

1035
00:40:43,001 --> 00:40:46,281
Speaker 1: Guys like gosh, why do we think the struggle? It's

1036
00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:49,601
Speaker 1: like you get a gold medal for no, Yeah, so cute.

1037
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:52,721
Speaker 2: It's so funny what you were saying before around manifesting generators,

1038
00:40:52,721 --> 00:40:55,281
Speaker 2: how they're very like turned on lit up. I remember

1039
00:40:55,321 --> 00:40:57,521
Speaker 2: trying to do life in a way of like let's

1040
00:40:57,521 --> 00:41:00,561
Speaker 2: say ex partners for example, certain ways of business that

1041
00:41:00,601 --> 00:41:02,641
Speaker 2: I should have been doing it their way because it

1042
00:41:02,681 --> 00:41:06,001
Speaker 2: was the right way, right, But I was unhappy and

1043
00:41:06,161 --> 00:41:08,801
Speaker 2: so unlit up with what I was doing. I was

1044
00:41:08,881 --> 00:41:11,361
Speaker 2: burnt out all the time. I was overly emotional. It

1045
00:41:11,521 --> 00:41:14,121
Speaker 2: just like fucking sucked, and I just felt so far

1046
00:41:14,201 --> 00:41:14,841
Speaker 2: away from whatever.

1047
00:41:15,401 --> 00:41:16,841
Speaker 1: That's the thing too, you just want not having fun

1048
00:41:16,881 --> 00:41:17,161
Speaker 1: doing it.

1049
00:41:17,241 --> 00:41:18,161
Speaker 3: I wasn't having fun.

1050
00:41:18,241 --> 00:41:20,321
Speaker 2: And then this whole last year has just been about

1051
00:41:20,361 --> 00:41:23,601
Speaker 2: having fun, following that intuitive pool, not listening to really

1052
00:41:23,641 --> 00:41:25,521
Speaker 2: what anybody else wants. And then I'm like, now we're here,

1053
00:41:25,561 --> 00:41:27,201
Speaker 2: and we're doing all these beautiful things.

1054
00:41:27,321 --> 00:41:28,481
Speaker 3: I've never been more lit up.

1055
00:41:28,521 --> 00:41:30,561
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck y, life gets to like this, Like

1056
00:41:30,561 --> 00:41:32,961
Speaker 1: we always message each other, even last night, I'm like,

1057
00:41:33,361 --> 00:41:36,921
Speaker 1: sucksier tomorrow. Yeah, kind of Brisbane, doing the drive up there,

1058
00:41:36,961 --> 00:41:40,241
Speaker 1: doing the episode, getting dinner, go to dinner, lay in

1059
00:41:40,321 --> 00:41:42,041
Speaker 1: the hotel, Like this gets to be our work.

1060
00:41:43,041 --> 00:41:45,561
Speaker 4: I mean dream, I mean as women were actually built

1061
00:41:45,561 --> 00:41:48,121
Speaker 4: for pleasure. Just like side note before I get off

1062
00:41:48,121 --> 00:41:50,561
Speaker 4: this podcast, because ladies, I need you to hear something,

1063
00:41:50,681 --> 00:41:52,881
Speaker 4: you know, like fail wow, man, we actually like the

1064
00:41:52,961 --> 00:41:55,641
Speaker 4: clip is like the place for our pleasure. Men don't

1065
00:41:55,681 --> 00:41:58,281
Speaker 4: have a body pot just for pleasure. And so I'm

1066
00:41:58,321 --> 00:41:59,801
Speaker 4: like I feel like, you know, in the way that

1067
00:41:59,881 --> 00:42:02,361
Speaker 4: women are intuitive and the way that we feel pleasure,

1068
00:42:02,481 --> 00:42:05,241
Speaker 4: like you know, not to harpot about like the patriarchal way,

1069
00:42:05,281 --> 00:42:06,721
Speaker 4: it's like they're threatened by that they don't get to

1070
00:42:06,721 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 4: experience intuition and pleasure like us. Yeah, and so this's

1071
00:42:09,481 --> 00:42:11,561
Speaker 4: been made out to be this dangerous, evil.

1072
00:42:11,281 --> 00:42:12,321
Speaker 1: Like naughty, naughty thing.

1073
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's like, hey, like turn in to be

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Speaker 4: turned on. So you're just like so juicy and so magnetic,

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Speaker 4: Like why doesn't life get to be fun?

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think I was listening to another podcast.

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Speaker 4: I think it was Lily Reinhart on Jay Shaddies, and

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Speaker 4: she said this beautiful analogy, like when you're like this soul,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like that Movie's Soul in Disney Plus,

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Speaker 4: And it's like if the universe will say, hey, do

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Speaker 4: you want to go to Earth and experience life? Like yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's got to be challenges, but you get to feel

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Speaker 4: every single thing, make connections, like absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I want to do that.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade that for the world, because my feelings

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Speaker 4: are what make me human.

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Speaker 1: Like so beautiful us.

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you.

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Speaker 1: If anyone listening who's like, oh my god, I need

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Speaker 1: to get a reading, where can they find you?

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Speaker 4: Hi? Yes, I would love to connect with you. So

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Speaker 4: I'm mainly on my Instagram, which is at the feed dang.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure your share.

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Speaker 4: I have a website feeding dot com and yeah, I

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Speaker 4: would love to connect with you. Do a reading and

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Speaker 4: I post a lot. I do a lot of writing

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Speaker 4: on my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, how do you do is spell your name? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I will clarify that so it's the t h E.

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00:43:08,001 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: And then my name is p p h I dang d.

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Speaker 3: A and g beautiful And where can we find your book?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's actually in bookstores, which I'm really actually and

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Speaker 4: it's on Amazon as well, and so if you don't

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Speaker 4: find it in your bookstore, you can get it ordered.

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Speaker 4: And it's called The Great Unlearning Awakening to Living an

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Speaker 4: aligned and Authentic Light.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, probably that's taken me this long to

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Speaker 1: actually book reading, but it was so incredible.

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Speaker 2: This is this is the permission slot for me to

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Speaker 2: move to Balley ladies are bye.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me and sharing so much.

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Speaker 1: It was so beautiful to be here. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: This was an epic conversation, so cool.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us guys all right in this one.

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Speaker 3: Bye