Speaker 1: You're not well.
Speaker 2: You know, I think I've got the COVID.
Speaker 1: That's what you said to me today. I said, here
Speaker 1: and I laughed, and I love you and I'm your
Speaker 1: biggest fan. You know that, right? Yeah? But like, how
Speaker 1: six years on from COVID nine and how how you've
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion I have COVID as opposed to
Speaker 1: just a common.
Speaker 2: Flut could be. Look, I've taken you cues off your mum,
Speaker 2: and your mum is I don't know you guys really
Speaker 2: aware of this. Your mom is a hypochondract Oh, I've
Speaker 2: never heard a person every single day, Oh, I'm coming
Speaker 2: down with something. I'm sick, but I'm not usually sick.
Speaker 2: But she said, oh, do you know there's another COVID outbreak?
Speaker 2: It's rare. And then as I sat at coffee, Yes,
Speaker 2: you've definitely got I'm running with you.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you as well? Also love the Tony
Speaker 1: Star classes that you have under day?
Speaker 2: You know why? You know what? Over the last two days,
Speaker 2: I've lost two pairs of glass Now, yeah, what these
Speaker 2: are my final one just misplaced? Yeah, just a misplaced.
Speaker 2: I had him had him on my shirt. One just
Speaker 2: fell off last night and I don't know whether other
Speaker 2: one say so, gone to my.
Speaker 3: Last he was at he was at the ivy last night, Cooper, Yeah,
Speaker 3: we had the ivy last night.
Speaker 1: How well is it was it busy?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: It was, yeah, it was. It was a party, a party,
Speaker 2: a party from our builders. The builders had a party
Speaker 2: and they invited.
Speaker 1: It's just a little bit of us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. Just carve a little bit off the.
Speaker 1: Just on hypochondriacts quickly. Where does Trish sit in regards
Speaker 1: to your brother Andrew Johns Because you always talk about
Speaker 1: Joey is the best, but Trish is bad too. If
Speaker 1: you had a sort of a gold and silver metal
Speaker 1: Who gets that?
Speaker 2: They are so similar in so many ways. And look,
Speaker 2: I'm going to give an inside here to the listeners.
Speaker 2: Joey and Trish used to just hate each other. You
Speaker 2: know that. Yeah, I know. They used to fight mate
Speaker 2: all the time. While she gets because they're the same person,
Speaker 2: excuse me, they are so similar and so we'd be
Speaker 2: like remember once for a chief's wedding and and Joey
Speaker 2: was carrying on and did something with Trish geest just
Speaker 2: settle down, a little loser. Joey just exploded and then
Speaker 2: another time I was away. I was in Melbourne and
Speaker 2: Joey was on the drink and they come across each
Speaker 2: other and they're out anyway. She was like, she goes,
Speaker 2: are you Andrew? I don't think you have any more
Speaker 2: to drink? You said, don't tell me what to do.
Speaker 2: And she goes and she goes, well, your brother's not
Speaker 2: going to like that, and he goes, bloods thicker than water. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he bloods thick at the water. Yeah, they really went
Speaker 2: at each other.
Speaker 1: I can see that happening. I can see that happening, and.
Speaker 2: So yeah, both they're both helped the condracts. Probably a
Speaker 2: dead heat. I've told you before about the story where
Speaker 2: I was in the sheds and they'd feared I broke
Speaker 2: him a neck in the game and I'm laying down.
Speaker 2: I'm laying down literally on the table. Joey wasn't playing,
Speaker 2: but he was there watching and they're going and the
Speaker 2: doctor's in there and it turned out was really bad
Speaker 2: nerve damage. But I just had no idea. It had
Speaker 2: the neck brace on and the doctor goes, just give
Speaker 2: me your hand, give me your hand here, do you Maddie.
Speaker 2: I just want to get an idea on this can
Speaker 2: you feel any tingling in your ride? And as I
Speaker 2: was about to wear so, Joey goes, I can, I'll
Speaker 2: get tingling in mind that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love your saying. It's so true. He's the
Speaker 1: He's the brided every wedding and the corpse of every
Speaker 1: few is literally as well, Matthew. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw it, you're on social media.
Speaker 2: Hey, I love it. I'm really really I'm digging the
Speaker 2: Blues tracks.
Speaker 1: That I was just about to bring up, mate, because
Speaker 1: yesterday come out. We've alluded to the fact I did
Speaker 1: a motivational speech. I'm known from a speeches but on
Speaker 1: the show did you show it on the show? Well,
Speaker 1: I did a motivational speech for the for the Blues
Speaker 1: this week. A lot of our listeners getting in the
Speaker 1: comments of the of the video saying mate, like we
Speaker 1: had a lot of Coensland are saying they're motivated, but
Speaker 1: they're saying, if you so Wells can't get up for this, well,
Speaker 1: then they can't get up for any.
Speaker 2: There's no pulse. If they can't get up after that speech,
Speaker 2: there is no pulse.
Speaker 1: Literally.
Speaker 3: I loved your connection to the like the organ the heart.
Speaker 3: Were you talking about blo. Blood cells are blue and
Speaker 3: then when they don't turn red till they've got the
Speaker 3: oxygen within the body.
Speaker 1: I wrote all that very s did you. I wrote
Speaker 1: that because that's always stuck with me that I learned
Speaker 1: it in science class. But it's not until I think it.
Speaker 1: When it hits the arteries is when oxygen is in
Speaker 1: the same sort of vessels blue, and it changes it from.
Speaker 3: Blue too, because arteries are pumping away from the heart,
Speaker 3: whereas veins are pumping to the heart because they need oxygen.
Speaker 2: Jack, Jack, you should have listened in Signs Jack every
Speaker 2: single day. I was so proud tonight after they showed
Speaker 2: that on that clip. When Hemmy brought it to the show,
Speaker 2: I finished, I was just dumbfounded, and I said, God,
Speaker 2: sometimes you look back and you think maybe we should
Speaker 2: have sent you to private school, just spent that a
Speaker 2: little bit more money. You're an idiot.
Speaker 1: So I thought you were proud.
Speaker 3: Well, they had to spend double bubble on my school fees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, against Saint Augustin's. But I don't know what went
Speaker 2: wrong with you, brother?
Speaker 1: How are you looking at Jack on? Yeah, Look, let's
Speaker 1: start with the biggest news off the top right we're
Speaker 1: going to talk. We reacted to the new show Ails
Speaker 1: team last week. We're going to have another reaction to that,
Speaker 1: as well as the Queensland team that came out after
Speaker 1: we did our podcast. But Ethan Strange, they're saying maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit of doubt. He rolled his ankle a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago. He was filmed. He was actually
Speaker 1: in a moon boot. Stranger.
Speaker 2: You said like there was news tonight, that there's news tonight.
Speaker 1: So tomorrow when this comes out, they have their training session.
Speaker 1: Obviously the day after Tuesday did a captain drum before
Speaker 1: State of Osion Wednesday. But tomorrow they're going to they're
Speaker 1: allowing him to do sort of a fitness test and
Speaker 1: if you can get through the whole training with the team,
Speaker 1: then they're going to allow him in. Matt Burton is
Speaker 1: still on stand by potentially to take that spot, though
Speaker 1: it'd be a big even though he us on the bench,
Speaker 1: be a big loss in my opinion.
Speaker 2: Out to big out given I reckon Laurie, he's got
Speaker 2: some big plans for him. A little bit later, we'll
Speaker 2: talk about let's assume he's going to play. I want
Speaker 2: to got a little bit of something left field for
Speaker 2: it how I use him. But they deciders are always
Speaker 2: really really special.
Speaker 1: You played, did you?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: You played what three games of Origin for four four?
Speaker 1: And do you play a decider?
Speaker 2: Play decider? Eight City Football Stadium. We played the first game.
Speaker 2: I only got on for about six minutes in the
Speaker 2: first game, but I got dropped. What they never dropped Joey.
Speaker 2: They always just dropped me.
Speaker 1: What a six minutes was that?
Speaker 2: It was six minutes that will never be forgotten, John, So,
Speaker 2: So what happened? I dropped for game two? By the way,
Speaker 2: we lost on the bell in game one, like we've
Speaker 2: we've got the whip hand, and Joey went for a
Speaker 2: repeat set literally like thirty seconds for full time. It
Speaker 2: bounced off I think it bounced off Benny Aikens leg.
Speaker 2: He picked it up through it to someone. They just
Speaker 2: did this speculator kick which bounced over Tim Brash's head.
Speaker 2: They got the ball back and went and scored it
Speaker 2: under the post, full field try, full field try, and
Speaker 2: then they kicked it after full time and they beat us.
Speaker 2: So in game two, the boys went to sun Corpse
Speaker 2: Stadium and beat them, and then we go back to again.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not named in this side for game three.
Speaker 2: So the night before the game we had we weren't
Speaker 2: playing Newcastle that weekend because they did the split rounds
Speaker 2: with the state of Origin. And so I went out
Speaker 2: and had a meal with Crowe and a couple of boys,
Speaker 2: had one of a couple of beers. Nothing heavy, just
Speaker 2: just a couple just cleansing Yale and I get home
Speaker 2: and Laurie rings me Laury and Joey yep, because Laurie's
Speaker 2: the captain. And he rings that says, hey, Maddie, I
Speaker 2: don't know. Has Tommy contact coach Tommy Donicas? And I said, nah,
Speaker 2: he has made Toobs was really cruel. He's talking might
Speaker 2: be out now twos was hooker yea and oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and I said, I said to him, I said, but look,
Speaker 2: it's Tubes, like one of the toughest spokes ever to
Speaker 2: play the game. You'll be okay, it probably would be
Speaker 2: just putting. We're going to let you know. We're just
Speaker 2: thrown your name to Tommy. So I'm laying there in
Speaker 2: the morning about nine I've ever lay in and uh
Speaker 2: get a call and hello, Maddie, it's Tommy. Oh Tommy
Speaker 2: mate Toobs is not playing you're in you're playing hook.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, no worries, mate, We've got a team
Speaker 2: medi at one o'clock needs you down here, mate, And
Speaker 2: he yells out to Jeff car the manager. What's he
Speaker 2: got to do right, mate, You've got to go to
Speaker 2: the airport at Belmont. Yeah, and then mate, jump on,
Speaker 2: We're got a ticket for you. Get down here, get
Speaker 2: this straight away. Okay, yeah, no worries. So I'm on
Speaker 2: the clock, throwing my boots in everything. I go straight
Speaker 2: to Belman Airport on Newcastle Airport, arrive, walk up and say, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, just for the the eleven thirty flight to
Speaker 2: Sydney under the ticket for John's and the lady goes, oh, yep, yep,
Speaker 2: let me have a look. Oh oh no, sir, there's
Speaker 2: no ticket there. I went, oh okay. So I ring
Speaker 2: Tommy and say, hey Tommy, it's Maddie. Mate. There's no ticket.
Speaker 2: He goes, mad, I don't give a fuck, just mate,
Speaker 2: just buy your own ticket. I'm going, oh okay, Tommy.
Speaker 2: So I go there and say can I just buy
Speaker 2: a ticket? She goes it's the plane's full. Oh fuck.
Speaker 2: So I ring Tommy and go hey Tommy, it's made,
Speaker 2: and mate, what where are you? I said, mate? The
Speaker 2: plane's full. Mate, I don't fucking care. Just mate, just
Speaker 2: find a way to get on the plane. So I'm
Speaker 2: going hang up me. What am I going to do
Speaker 2: next month? The two pilots wore pass and they go, Maddie,
Speaker 2: is there a problem? And I told them, I said, well, mate,
Speaker 2: I've been dragged into State of Origin late and I'm
Speaker 2: going to be down there for the meeting at one
Speaker 2: o'clock and the planes full. They went, oh right, okay,
Speaker 2: follow us. So I sat between the two pilots in
Speaker 2: the cockpit and I made that's you joined them all
Speaker 2: high club and sat there between and went down Not
Speaker 2: the ideal preparation, but to see what it was interesting.
Speaker 2: That was the best State of Origin game I played.
Speaker 2: Really in that game, I sort of got.
Speaker 1: It and no time to think, probably no time to think.
Speaker 2: I just got down there and just got into it.
Speaker 1: Some of the best daboots people get hurt in the
Speaker 1: warm up and they don't have any time to think.
Speaker 1: They just kept throwing straight in the deep end. Did
Speaker 1: you win the decider?
Speaker 2: No, we didn't.
Speaker 1: Okay, well it's.
Speaker 3: A shame he didn't know ticket man back then, Matthew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, great point. Yeah you know you bred him.
Speaker 1: Now can we talk about We spoke about him all
Speaker 1: last week. The biggest news avenue South Wales. Obviously Brian
Speaker 1: overs dropped Jack boss Stocks coming to that side. How
Speaker 1: after a week of sort of pondering on this side,
Speaker 1: how do you see that?
Speaker 2: It's look you see when it got named, there was
Speaker 2: a lot of surprises and sort of as the week's
Speaker 2: gone on, you're thinking about, okay, what's the reasoning and
Speaker 2: there's no Jack Boss Stock. What he's done. He's just gone.
Speaker 2: He's gone for a kick target. He's gone for a tick,
Speaker 2: a big kick target as opposed to to yardage tear.
Speaker 2: What losing to is going to put a lot of
Speaker 2: pressure on our middles. Our middles, our middle yardage men
Speaker 2: are going to have to really just really pick up
Speaker 2: their act. I mean anyway, but now the extra mile
Speaker 2: again without there, he's our best yardage man and so
Speaker 2: boss Stock is. I really liked the selection. However, we've
Speaker 2: got to get down there. Our yardage has got to
Speaker 2: be good for us to get down to basically take
Speaker 2: advantage of why he was selected. Jack, So our yard
Speaker 2: is shamee. One thing you're going to get through this
Speaker 2: preview you're going to hear me talk about a lot
Speaker 2: is play the ball, speed and yardish game. It's the
Speaker 2: most essential factor in this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think they'll also think that's why
Speaker 1: they got blokes like Critter and Bradman just sort of counter.
Speaker 1: You've got the kick targets of Mark and and you've
Speaker 1: got jack boss Stock, but your center's getting back for
Speaker 1: play one and play two. I think particularly Bradman, like
Speaker 1: low center of gravity and real powerhouse out of yardige.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be used up quite a bit and
Speaker 1: they'll meet him a lot have to particularly being on
Speaker 1: that left side with Jackie Bosto.
Speaker 2: Those that those two hundred meters that always runs. Mate,
Speaker 2: someone's got it. They just don't look after himselves.
Speaker 1: Did you see him against Souse the other night too?
Speaker 1: He was really good. I actually spoke to Leam Henry
Speaker 1: on the radio during the week and he said, mate,
Speaker 1: Brian to during the week preparation like at Penrith, understandably
Speaker 1: could be very disappointed with not being selected, but like
Speaker 1: attitude is bad and after the game they I think
Speaker 1: you've on interviewed him or something. He I just want
Speaker 1: to shout out to Jack Bostock, like congratulations, last classy man.
Speaker 2: Class it's really classy. That was like we said about
Speaker 2: Victor this time last week. Well there when Victor got
Speaker 2: told he was number twenty and he just went. He
Speaker 2: could see he's disappointed and he were in the elevator
Speaker 2: and it was a lot weird and he goes, but
Speaker 2: it is what it is. I just got to go
Speaker 2: in the camp and help the boys.
Speaker 1: Classy Queensland for a second, we go on then for
Speaker 1: one minute. Yeah, the their side, there's not too much
Speaker 1: coming out of Queensland camp like their side just relatively unchanged.
Speaker 1: The only thing is Lindsay Collins missing the game.
Speaker 2: Hia, that's a big loss.
Speaker 1: It is Lindsay always lives in that jersey being a
Speaker 1: great play for Queensland. But Paddy Carrigan off for six
Speaker 1: weeks Cinders most as he comes straight in off no games.
Speaker 1: I saw Billy talking during the week said he's pretty
Speaker 1: well sweet and he seems like the kind of like
Speaker 1: that's pretty professional. I don't think he would be doing
Speaker 1: like he wouldn't come into that side unless he was
Speaker 1: pretty fit. But one I like life for Queensland. I
Speaker 1: don't like it being he's so well supporter Jeremiah and
Speaker 1: I to begin Huge in Huge last year, he was
Speaker 1: really good in the last game as well.
Speaker 2: Has played a lot of football though he.
Speaker 3: Last week's game and Tom Lolo's three hundred.
Speaker 1: Did you see that game?
Speaker 3: See the first hit?
Speaker 2: Unbelievable when he's in the mood like he symbolizes the
Speaker 2: Cowboys that year when the Cowboys made Final four, he
Speaker 2: was unbelieve, who's the best background in the compet to
Speaker 2: mate and then the last three years he's been so inconsistent,
Speaker 2: more down than up, and so of the Cowboys. So
Speaker 2: the other night, you know, the way he played and surprise, surprise,
Speaker 2: Cowboys win. But Billy loves him.
Speaker 1: Yeah's and it was I think it might have been
Speaker 1: the last game last year and he just went up,
Speaker 1: like physically went after it. Because when I think of Nana,
Speaker 1: I I kind of think of the big players. You know,
Speaker 1: they put a kick up for him and he can
Speaker 1: just do a lot of freaky things for a big body.
Speaker 2: Sill can.
Speaker 1: But you saw that in a Pandeth game when he
Speaker 1: went after Moses Liota with that first shot. When he's
Speaker 1: in the mood like he's going he's really he does
Speaker 1: the little things really well, really aggressive with his line
Speaker 1: speed and things like that. So he'll be a big
Speaker 1: in Queensland.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Look you said last week, I think we had a
Speaker 1: listening account said that you said ducks and drapes forty
Speaker 1: seven times.
Speaker 2: Ducks and drakes.
Speaker 1: Ducks and drakes, sorry, ducks and drakes. They said that,
Speaker 1: you said it forty seven times. Do you think ducks
Speaker 1: and drakes still on the cards?
Speaker 2: What do I think they'll play Ducks and drakes?
Speaker 1: Do you think that they're going to well before do
Speaker 1: you think they're going to be playing because you said
Speaker 1: Cam Murray to start, do you think that, Laurie, are
Speaker 1: you still getting that vibe?
Speaker 2: I got a Gatfield Hill start, that's it. I do
Speaker 2: get a Gatfield Hill start. I think I think early
Speaker 2: in the game they've got to simplify and they've got
Speaker 2: to they've got to be playing what I called North
Speaker 2: South football, direct straight football as opposed to trying to
Speaker 2: push the ball a little bit sideways. So that's the reason.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't surprise me if Isaiah starts off the bench and
Speaker 2: they start with with Cam Murray. It also would not
Speaker 2: surprise me if they start with Adam Vanila Blake and
Speaker 2: Mitch Barnett goes back to the bench. Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: surprise it because you to really art one thing when
Speaker 2: you play, when you play State of Origin against Queensland
Speaker 2: and Queensland and these big occasions, you've got to start well,
Speaker 2: You've got to start well, you've got to take a
Speaker 2: little bit of air out of the stadium because it
Speaker 2: maybe if we start slow, make that crowd well, just
Speaker 2: when that crowd starts roaring and not, it doesn't just
Speaker 2: lift the Queensland. It exerts enormous pressure on the referee.
Speaker 2: Referees are any human now and every time that we
Speaker 2: lay half a second too long Loby screening for a
Speaker 2: six six again, every time that he gives a six again,
Speaker 2: and put it this way, that crowd can buy Queensland
Speaker 2: half half a second lay time in the ruck and
Speaker 2: for people again that that that is, that's an enormous difference.
Speaker 1: Definitely, And like do we think there's Billy's always kind
Speaker 1: of got something up his arsenal as well? Is there
Speaker 1: his arsenal.
Speaker 2: That's a deep cut, this comfortable piece of metal in
Speaker 2: your what's Billy Jake. Yeah. Gee, this constable, comfortable piece
Speaker 2: of metal has been in your dad's ass for four years.
Speaker 2: This state of urgent metal has been Wally Lewis Metals
Speaker 2: in your dad's ass.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think there's any drakes with
Speaker 1: Slatzy as well? I like, I mean, he's there's not
Speaker 1: really any pressure on them to play ducks and drakes.
Speaker 1: Like it's hard to sort of you're using that, you're
Speaker 1: using let's lay off.
Speaker 3: You just learned.
Speaker 2: It's we call it silly buggers this week?
Speaker 1: Is he going to be playing? Do you think Slatsy's
Speaker 1: playing any silly bugs? That's hard to tell.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, Coop, I don't think so. Haven't
Speaker 2: looked at their side. They're pretty settled and coming off
Speaker 2: the last performance, I'm interested to see where at one
Speaker 2: point then I comes on on onto the field and
Speaker 2: who he replaces. He can play both sides, But does
Speaker 2: he come on for Nicker, who's an attack minded player,
Speaker 2: or cape Well, who's more defense minded.
Speaker 1: I think I wouldn't be surprised if I starts and
Speaker 1: Nikero comes off the back.
Speaker 2: In just talking about that, I just actually thought the
Speaker 2: same thing that big strong body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that was my sort of guess in terms
Speaker 1: of him playing silly buggers as opposed to lots of drakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay. Can we also get into a little
Speaker 1: bit of tactical stuff. How do we think how do
Speaker 1: we see let's start with New South Wales. If you
Speaker 1: were in New South Wales, how do you want to
Speaker 1: play against Queensland going up there? Like, what's what's the tactic?
Speaker 1: Because I've got a little bit of a theory on
Speaker 1: where Queensland weaknesses would lie in terms of where you're
Speaker 1: going to attack, But where do you think they should
Speaker 1: play coop?
Speaker 2: I think to understand when when you're going to really
Speaker 2: big games, you have to simplify, right, you got you've
Speaker 2: got to have a really solid game plan, but it's
Speaker 2: got to be simple. What happens if you make a
Speaker 2: game plan too complex? What happens is everyone focuses on
Speaker 2: the complexity and trying hard, focusing on trying to get
Speaker 2: this complicated game plan on, and suddenly what happens is
Speaker 2: you ignore the things that really matter, Like make really
Speaker 2: simple things make a big difference. Mate, how hard you
Speaker 2: run on the ball? But that is so basic. You
Speaker 2: watch Queensland you watch those Queensland players, okay, in that
Speaker 2: in game two, in that second half, you watch how
Speaker 2: hard they run, you know, the kickchase, all those those
Speaker 2: things that are really important. They're the things that win.
Speaker 2: You're the football game. But it's not a really complex
Speaker 2: it's not a complex game plan, so really simple. I
Speaker 2: would scale things back. That's the reason I would not
Speaker 2: start with Isaiah. Look at that. It's interesting, like at
Speaker 2: Reece Robson, if you're looking to do that, I would
Speaker 2: have went for Appy and Brayley. But I can appreciate
Speaker 2: why he's picked Reeces Robson because I'd say, with Reece Robson,
Speaker 2: he wants him to just clear Moses. Yet you know
Speaker 2: the quality creative ball, if that makes sense, as opposed
Speaker 2: to moving down behalf. And so it's simplicity. I play straighter,
Speaker 2: I play more more reactive. I instruct clear and Nathan
Speaker 2: to run more. I want them to run more. I
Speaker 2: want them to play more direct. And you know, and
Speaker 2: say with Teddy like take a little bit at the moment.
Speaker 2: Sometimes what's happening is we get we're out there with
Speaker 2: two different systems of play. You've got Nathan ball, which
Speaker 2: is sort of complex and shapes and everything, and you've
Speaker 2: got Teddy Ball, which is simple and direct. I've often thought, right,
Speaker 2: let's take Teddy and push him towards Nathan Ball. I'm
Speaker 2: actually starting to think maybe we scale back the other way.
Speaker 2: Maybe we scale back a little bit and say to
Speaker 2: Nathan Listen's let's let's scale back on the real complex shapes. Mate.
Speaker 2: You've got a really good running game. I mean when
Speaker 2: we interviewed him here, he always says, I play my
Speaker 2: best when I run the football, and it's a discipline
Speaker 2: I've got to remind myself of every match. Well, here
Speaker 2: we go. If we play really direct and really simple,
Speaker 2: what will happen is this, we will get Nathan into
Speaker 2: attack kick position regularly. If we can do that, If
Speaker 2: we can get Nathan into the attacking position to put
Speaker 2: attacking kicks in, I think we're in the football game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's so so, you know, I would not be focusing
Speaker 2: too much on all these shapes and whatnot, you know,
Speaker 2: and in a certain way too, coops, I wouldn't focus
Speaker 2: so much on Queensland. I just focus into purely internal
Speaker 2: on ourselves, knowing that if we got we've got James Tedesko,
Speaker 2: we got Nathan Cleary, We've got Mitchell Moses, We've got
Speaker 2: Adam vanil Blake, We've got Pain Hass, We've got Cam Murray.
Speaker 2: I mean, look at that quality in that team. Let's
Speaker 2: focus on us. Because we play, we play to our
Speaker 2: best selves, we win.
Speaker 1: I agree, I actually agree with that, Like in terms
Speaker 1: of the tactic side, like Queensland do a lot of that.
Speaker 1: In terms of pickings apart you so Welles have a
Speaker 1: a a side that is so unbelievable. If you can
Speaker 1: get their intent and motivation right individually, get man managed
Speaker 1: the individuals and say hey, we need we need this
Speaker 1: out here. Simplify their role, simplify their job. And if
Speaker 1: you can get them like and you'll know from the
Speaker 1: first at people will know from the first set with
Speaker 1: their their first action, whether it's defense or whether winding
Speaker 1: up from the back fence into the defensive line, you'll
Speaker 1: see where the players and heads are at and how
Speaker 1: much intent they're going in. I also love what you
Speaker 1: said with Teddy Ball because I went back and watched
Speaker 1: I think it was the last game, but the MCG
Speaker 1: Teddy I think got amnt of match performance like it was.
Speaker 1: It was maybe five or four years ago when Jack
Speaker 1: I think James Maloney was the five eight then with
Speaker 1: Nathan Cleary, Teddy was at the back, and they didn't
Speaker 1: play that. They didn't play Nathan style of football. They
Speaker 1: didn't sort of give Nathan the keys to the throne yet,
Speaker 1: you know, so a lot of it was on Teddy.
Speaker 1: They just get forward. Damian Cook was at hooker, they'd
Speaker 1: get forward, get quick, play the balls. Cookie would get out,
Speaker 1: find Teddy, who would just be on the advantage line.
Speaker 1: He'd just skip across, making people miss. Came making people miss,
Speaker 1: and the edges would just push with him, push into
Speaker 1: space a little bit less in terms of blocks and
Speaker 1: things like that, but just more pushing into space around Teddy.
Speaker 1: Because we see it when attacking hookers get like when
Speaker 1: Harry Grant gets out first of all the wider defenders
Speaker 1: like B and C because he's so quick, they instantly
Speaker 1: turning because they shit themselves.
Speaker 3: They got so quickly at the main. Then he slows up.
Speaker 1: And then he slows up, and that's when you see
Speaker 1: people like Lindsay Collins and back rolls pushing into those
Speaker 1: spaces where people turning in on Teddy has the same effect.
Speaker 1: Because people now have hard Teddy is to tackle individually
Speaker 1: and how quick you can get across the field. Well,
Speaker 1: we've been using Teddy. We've been using Telly really poorly
Speaker 1: the first two games, putting him out on the edge
Speaker 1: and just sort of getting the and then you know, letting,
Speaker 1: letting the boys go forward and then on a quick
Speaker 1: play the ball right, we'll get the ball to Teddy
Speaker 1: like they do with Kalyn Ponger. Teddy's not that kind
Speaker 1: of player. He's good when he's on the advantage close
Speaker 1: to the rock yep, and he skips crossfield and makes
Speaker 1: people miss because you're so strong around his hips.
Speaker 2: Yep. How thick is a defense line one player deep,
Speaker 2: one player. So if you play nice and direct and
Speaker 2: you play fast, you only got to beat one man.
Speaker 2: If you start pushing the ball sideways all the time,
Speaker 2: you're skimming across the defense, you know, and and it's
Speaker 2: you're complicating your job. Yes, yeah, you've got to you've
Speaker 2: got to use the football sideways and that and push
Speaker 2: the ball create. But we just we weren't playing direct enough.
Speaker 2: You weren't challenging the Queensland forwards with direct running and
Speaker 2: these in these days coops jack teams are so defenses
Speaker 2: are so good at recognizing formations taking shapes. Is that
Speaker 2: the one thing that probably the most dangerous thing is
Speaker 2: a man with great footworking speed just going straight at
Speaker 2: a big man who's tied and just challenging him with
Speaker 2: his footwork.
Speaker 1: You ask, you ask anyone in the in Rabia League,
Speaker 1: they go, would would you rather see, you know, a
Speaker 1: big longside shape coming with Mitch Moses, Nathan Cleary, James
Speaker 1: Sedesco and you see it coming, you have time to
Speaker 1: get up and identify it, or would you just the
Speaker 1: last thing you want is to get back on your
Speaker 1: heels on the verge. I turn around and you've got
Speaker 1: like James Sedesco or Mitch Moses on their own, but
Speaker 1: they're coming straight out here with footwork. You shit yourself
Speaker 1: because coaches.
Speaker 3: Put it down to a science. Defense to defense at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the structure and all the
Speaker 3: structures you learn risk management, right, it's about minimizing tries,
Speaker 3: minimizing risk. But you can't really like put it down
Speaker 3: to a science when you've got a defender guy one
Speaker 3: on one with just better footwork and better intent, and
Speaker 3: when you're.
Speaker 1: And when you're fatigued like my one tactic, my one
Speaker 1: weakness I see for Queensland. If new Is are looking
Speaker 1: to attack an area, I think their their right edge Nicker,
Speaker 1: Sam Walker, Robert Toya and Jojo Fafieda. That I think
Speaker 1: that's the edge, like similar like what they've done with
Speaker 1: Kayle and pong A on New South Wales right edge
Speaker 1: when they had Catni Stags there. They'd attacked that space
Speaker 1: between Nathan and Stags really well, and they just continue
Speaker 1: going there. Whenever there was a quick playaball, they just
Speaker 1: pepper that side, pepper that side. I don't think we've
Speaker 1: done that enough, particularly in and around Sammy Sammy Walker.
Speaker 1: We know what he can do with the attack, but
Speaker 1: I don't think there's been a lot of players where
Speaker 1: they put him under pressure defensively and isolating in one
Speaker 1: on one. It's got the game three I think they need.
Speaker 1: That's the space, particularly around him and Robert toy A,
Speaker 1: two young players, but that I think that's the spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, got something for you then, yeah, still really strange
Speaker 2: assume he plays. I would love to get Ethan Strange
Speaker 2: on the field, drilling through the middle of the thirteen. However,
Speaker 2: we've got Isaia Yale we've got Cam Murray like, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: you might be at one point in the game put
Speaker 2: all the smaller fast blokes on, but okay, so you
Speaker 2: don't play him there. It's so important to get out there, Ethan.
Speaker 2: How do I play? How do I play? It's going
Speaker 2: to sound nuts, might sound stupid.
Speaker 1: He never stopped you before.
Speaker 2: That's exactly. Think about having two sons, that's crazy. I'll
Speaker 2: just do it. Should know just the youngest one ould
Speaker 2: I would had little anel birth. People we say that
Speaker 2: to him all the time, and he used to cry.
Speaker 1: Kid, try that you said, used to tell everyone I
Speaker 1: was an anal birth. I didn't cry about that. I
Speaker 1: cried because for years you told everyone I was adopted
Speaker 1: from Africa.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did.
Speaker 3: And also King Kong two thousand and five, when the
Speaker 3: monkey died.
Speaker 2: You did spoiler that was probably the most pathetic.
Speaker 1: Was a gorilla?
Speaker 2: He was, okay, Ethan strange edgeback row, But you don't
Speaker 2: play him like a traditional how we use edgeback rollers
Speaker 2: with hitting holes. If I'm if he's playing outside Nathan
Speaker 2: or Mitchell, I'm saying to him, are you either run
Speaker 2: the football? I watch your food? Ethan? Early use him
Speaker 2: like a Glenn Stewart type role because he plays nice
Speaker 2: and direct. He's got great footwork. You can play him
Speaker 2: on the left side, which will be a left foot
Speaker 2: in or ballplay, or you play him on the right
Speaker 2: side and he's a left foot away, you know, to
Speaker 2: pull that outside man in. I think I think you
Speaker 2: could use him that way and it just gives you
Speaker 2: know what it does too, Coop, It just gives he
Speaker 2: just gives our attack an unorthodox edge, you know.
Speaker 1: And you can even similar like you see the shape
Speaker 1: that they bring it a lot now they'll feed their
Speaker 1: back rollers early and they put a block off them.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: Ethan, Yeah, getting Teddy out in the back of on
Speaker 1: that left side, Bradnam, if he's on the left edge
Speaker 1: where Hudson would be feeding Ethan early, have a block
Speaker 1: off him, but he can just run or he's got
Speaker 1: that block shape.
Speaker 2: You can form that if it was outside Nathan right
Speaker 2: they say, for instance, on the right hand side, so
Speaker 2: you left foot away. It takes pressure off Nathan because
Speaker 2: Nathan hasn't all the time got to go to the line,
Speaker 2: try to throw that absolute parce all the time. Just
Speaker 2: takes pressure off him. In a period of game. That's
Speaker 2: where you can actually say to Nathan, Hey, Nathan, let's
Speaker 2: push him backwards and mate, if you like what you see,
Speaker 2: may take him on challenge them. Otherwise may just feed
Speaker 2: Eastan a little bit earlier. You know, That's just it
Speaker 2: just gives something completely different that a lot of those
Speaker 2: Queensland eage defenders wouldn't have seen or defended before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something you're hard to coach for.
Speaker 2: It's definitely Stuart's Stuart.
Speaker 1: I like the idea. I think with Hamole. I can't
Speaker 1: see him doing it with Hamola on the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't see him doing it, but I don't think
Speaker 1: it'd be if it's particularly if like to replace the
Speaker 1: Hudson who's a very similar unorthodox style. Yep, it'd be
Speaker 1: very handy to have him out there.
Speaker 2: Talking about both to the middle again and that you
Speaker 2: can't put everyone in the middle. I'd love for a
Speaker 2: ten minute burst with Hudson through the middle. I reckon
Speaker 2: Hudson will evolve in the next twelve months into a
Speaker 2: really great middle player.
Speaker 1: Oh mate. His leag speed, strength and just his ability
Speaker 1: to find and push into space as well. He's not
Speaker 1: really good football instincts. Just on the other end, do
Speaker 1: we see Queensland if you're Queen's Land, now Queensland goes,
Speaker 1: do you see them? They really exploited that the right
Speaker 1: edge of New South Wales Game ones and game two,
Speaker 1: that space threen stags and clearing no stags there. This way,
Speaker 1: they've got Stephen Crichton, who is a known really good
Speaker 1: strong defender. Do you think all that they're still going
Speaker 1: to be hammering their guns on that side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll go there a lot, because that's Kaylin's sweet spot,
Speaker 2: you know, and Kaylen you'll see him just sort of,
Speaker 2: you know, not go looking for the ball. Let the
Speaker 2: ball find him. He'll sit in that sweet spot and
Speaker 2: Billy gets them to bring the ball to him in
Speaker 2: that spot. And so but it makes a big difference
Speaker 2: having Crichton there. Crichton recognize the shapes really well. He's
Speaker 2: a great communicator, which takes pressure off Nathan. That's that's
Speaker 2: a that's a no brain. That's a no brain selection.
Speaker 2: So I if critic made if he has a if
Speaker 2: he has one of his as a great defensive performance,
Speaker 2: boy boy, that goes a long way to win the
Speaker 2: football game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I reckon a lot of their
Speaker 1: They'll marrow a lot of their focus on the other edge,
Speaker 1: a little bit between. I think Bradman, Best and Bostock
Speaker 1: a new, a new defensive combination. I think Billy will
Speaker 1: have a plan to try and exploit that I reckon.
Speaker 1: We'll see, yeah, because if I'm an attacker and knowing
Speaker 1: how rangy and long and like awkward Stephen Crichton can
Speaker 1: make defense, sometimes I think they'll want to narrow their
Speaker 1: attack around Bradman and Boss Stop.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think if they might have some sort of new
Speaker 1: comer and a debutante winger. You know what people when
Speaker 1: you have a debutant winger, you know how how hard
Speaker 1: they go, whether they're just putting bombs up for them
Speaker 1: or they're just channeling a lot of their attack.
Speaker 2: Down an origin decided at some club stadium. The biggest
Speaker 2: test talk mate, but something special about him. You just
Speaker 2: get Jack Bostock mate. Some of the key battles Coope,
Speaker 2: Liam Martin versus Munster and you know it's funny, mate.
Speaker 2: Just about every playmaker has a nemesis. Like years ago,
Speaker 2: Cooper Cronk's nemesis was way Graham Wade used to just mate.
Speaker 2: He used to just nail Cooper, just knew all Cooper's
Speaker 2: movements and you know how Cooper would go to the
Speaker 2: line and made he jam him sometimes in the back
Speaker 2: and things like that. And when you're a ball player,
Speaker 2: to let people know when you turn in your ball
Speaker 2: playing and a bloke hitch in the middle of the back,
Speaker 2: it's really unnerving because you never know how much time
Speaker 2: you got now when he comes from a blind spot.
Speaker 2: That's what Wade used to do with with Coops and Liam.
Speaker 2: I think Liam's Monster's bogey Man, boogieyman.
Speaker 1: He is mate man, he literally is, and he's uh
Speaker 1: and he's we know when he gets in that arena,
Speaker 1: he goes to another level of like his mentality is rare,
Speaker 1: like so aggressive and he's a real big niggler, like
Speaker 1: gets straight under monster skin and money has a tendency
Speaker 1: sometimes to really bite back for a man who's in
Speaker 1: the halves and quite you know, like got to be
Speaker 1: creative and think he's got like a quick switch as well.
Speaker 1: So they always have had a good battle, particularly in
Speaker 1: those grand finals. I think Mardo's gone after him in
Speaker 1: a number of those Grand finals, so it'll be a
Speaker 1: good battle for him. I mean, whoever they put on
Speaker 1: that right edge because they talk, potentially they might start
Speaker 1: there even I mean, it's a tough, very tough battle
Speaker 1: for money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting about I Reckon laws was got into Hudson,
Speaker 2: Young's got into him and said, made I want you
Speaker 2: to call out Sammy Walker. Hudson's gone on, I'm coming
Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, that's I Reckon. Laurie's gone away and
Speaker 2: just thought, man, in the first two origins, they've allowed
Speaker 2: sand to play too comfortable. This is the first shot
Speaker 2: leading in is Hudson saying there.
Speaker 3: Was so much on Kalen the first two games, like
Speaker 3: one taking over the role from Reese, who had who
Speaker 3: was the incumbent, and then all the whole situation happened
Speaker 3: in one. You know how KP would handle going into
Speaker 3: game two like it almost distracted a lot of things
Speaker 3: for the rest of the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: It's good. It's actually because, like you said, Reese Wells
Speaker 1: is such a big figure in the game. All the
Speaker 1: headlines coming out of coins and obviously most of the
Speaker 1: headline has come out in your South Wales, but it
Speaker 1: was all around Reese whilst shopping and they were in
Speaker 1: when they were questioning Billy. We actually spoke to Ben
Speaker 1: Teel on the radio two days ago, I think it was,
Speaker 1: and even he said, he said, the Sammy Walker decision
Speaker 1: Game one, none of us knew about it. He said,
Speaker 1: none of the assistants knew about it until Billy named
Speaker 1: it in there, and we all kind of went, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a bizarre one like that, that's a bit strange
Speaker 1: given that there was so many other hars. But like
Speaker 1: you see what Sammy Walker has done the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, last two games, He's gone from a player
Speaker 1: that you know, do you think they'll pick him for
Speaker 1: origin to now, like you know, even if Tommy didn't
Speaker 1: was available, like he nearly squeezed, he squeezes Tommy didn't
Speaker 1: out of a.
Speaker 2: Special state of origin turns blokes who are very good
Speaker 2: players in the Superstars.
Speaker 3: Can I ask j even like the decision to pick
Speaker 3: Sam Walker because he's obviously he's playing halfback. Do you
Speaker 3: think Sam Walker would have Billy would have gone into
Speaker 3: this series looking to pick a side around a game
Speaker 3: plan that he had, or he would have changed it
Speaker 3: just because of Sam Walker, Or do you think Sam
Speaker 3: mould have suited that game plan.
Speaker 2: It's a really good one. Jay. I think Slater's very
Speaker 2: clever of that. I think he had the raw bones
Speaker 2: of a game plan, but I think he's tinked it
Speaker 2: with it. For Sam. Sam's the best football I've seen
Speaker 2: him see him play, and there has been sort of times,
Speaker 2: you know, suggestions and I don't know. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: because I'm not priven of the game plan, but sometimes
Speaker 2: the way Rister's played doesn't quite suit his football. But
Speaker 2: he's playing good football now and I think, yeah, I
Speaker 2: think there's here's a little bit more ad lib football
Speaker 2: in what they're doing. Because Billy could play both sides
Speaker 2: that you know that really good ad lib football and
Speaker 2: played so well in structurally, I think he's just loosened
Speaker 2: that side of the field.
Speaker 1: I see, like, I don't think Billy's got to Camblan
Speaker 1: in his head and he goes, I'm going to pick
Speaker 1: him for this game plan. I think he picks people
Speaker 1: who's he knows, who's got the right attitude for what
Speaker 1: he wants. Yeah, he's looking at only attitude based things.
Speaker 1: And then when he gets in there in terms of
Speaker 1: coming up with a tactic, he looks at everyone's strengths
Speaker 1: and he just he builds the attack around that. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of great adute players. We've got
Speaker 1: Harry Grant at nine, who loves to get as many
Speaker 1: chances we can get him getting at one marker and
Speaker 1: quick play the ball he'll get out yep, and then
Speaker 1: just builds it all about that, and he's done a
Speaker 1: good job.
Speaker 3: Like I've heard Billy over the years talk about like
Speaker 3: I think he spoke about his father and he talked
Speaker 3: about when he was I remember him saying it was
Speaker 3: like a quote from him saying that, like you might've
Speaker 3: learned that, you know, you shouldn't overthink things. It should
Speaker 3: be whatever you're doing, it should be instinct. Everything should
Speaker 3: be instinct, and you reckon like weird. I know he's
Speaker 3: not playing, but do you think he's like it's almost
Speaker 3: like the way he's coaching, either he says it or what.
Speaker 3: But his players seem to do that as well.
Speaker 2: Jack, Jack, you know what you know, and you both
Speaker 2: know Billy when he came here at Coloroid and stayed
Speaker 2: here him in Monster that year, and I've never seen
Speaker 2: a bloke he is excused upon the perfect storm in
Speaker 2: the fact that Billy Billy has this real innocence about him,
Speaker 2: bordering on sometimes His belief is almost at times always
Speaker 2: borderline naive to get you know, it's not the right word.
Speaker 2: How does yeah, it is like you just go mate,
Speaker 2: like you shouldn't believe in that so much? Or his
Speaker 2: self belief is just like I've never seen anyone like it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't question, it doesn't question first instinct. He just
Speaker 1: does not question it at all. There's no second doubt.
Speaker 2: We did it. We had a thing we came up
Speaker 2: with a sequence we did called cappuccino, which was cappuccino
Speaker 2: was sorry it was called it was a cappuccino. It
Speaker 2: was a double shot. It was work to a far
Speaker 2: post food. Act like it's going to be a big
Speaker 2: sweet block. Hit short and then double out the same way.
Speaker 2: So double shot act like it's going to go along again,
Speaker 2: hit short twice and just put massive pressure on those
Speaker 2: defenders to you know, two fake block shapes. And he went, yep, okay,
Speaker 2: and what I'm going to do. I'm going to add
Speaker 2: this Smithy does this? Does that? Now? When you bring
Speaker 2: something to a playmaker or someone that they'll go right, okay,
Speaker 2: they'll take it away for a week or two experiment
Speaker 2: of train and then come back and say it works.
Speaker 2: He did it once and went yep, sweet straight in
Speaker 2: the kick back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like yeah, his belief, it's his big
Speaker 1: like it can be a weakness of times because yea
Speaker 1: he might not, you know, tinker out some of the
Speaker 1: some other stuff, like the bad stuff in it. But
Speaker 1: he believes in something so much that he gives he
Speaker 1: gives it no reason not to work. Almost.
Speaker 2: Jack, sit on that thought, intuition, I've got something for
Speaker 2: you right at the back end we do the prediction.
Speaker 3: So jot me just to say, like when you go
Speaker 3: to pradictions, I'm just going to odd of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Intuition to your mind. Hammaso versus Bradman's a good one.
Speaker 2: Like pamasol Mate. He always comes up with something when
Speaker 2: they need it. Hamisode. That's speed and grace against Bradman's
Speaker 2: aggression and power clearly against the Queensland middle defense. Sam
Speaker 2: Walker short kicks versus Teddy you know, Cleary short kicks
Speaker 2: versus Ponger. There's so many good like battles throughout this game. Well,
Speaker 2: what do you think, what do you think is the
Speaker 2: most important thing for New South Wales. What's the most
Speaker 2: crucial thing.
Speaker 1: I think we touched on it at the start. I
Speaker 1: don't think they need to go in this with this
Speaker 1: magical sort of coaching tactic. I don't think they need
Speaker 1: to go into this game with all the answers on
Speaker 1: oh we're going to pull them apart here here, this,
Speaker 1: and that. They have played two halves of good football
Speaker 1: and two eighty minute performances. So I was a first
Speaker 1: half in Game two and a second half in Game
Speaker 1: one that were real equality. They need to get out there,
Speaker 1: start really well, but they need to play an eighty
Speaker 1: minute performance and from one to seventeen all seventeen players
Speaker 1: intent needs to be almost I'm going out there and
Speaker 1: just leaving nothing in the tank, because there's players been
Speaker 1: in this game too where you can visibly see they're
Speaker 1: off their game and their intent when they're running. They're
Speaker 1: getting bullied a little bit by some of the Queenslanders
Speaker 1: and you so Wales and vice versa, and on the
Speaker 1: other side of the football, not winning their one on
Speaker 1: one tackles, particularly through the middle. When Queens then start
Speaker 1: to get on a roll through the middle, that's when
Speaker 1: Harry and all these other great duly players like Samuel
Speaker 1: Walker Munster come into the game, they're attacked. It should
Speaker 1: just be our intent with the football. We just run
Speaker 1: as hard as we can out of the backfield, march
Speaker 1: down there for an attacking kick. And on the other
Speaker 1: side of the football, they need to just win their
Speaker 1: tackles and slow the rouckdown as much as possible.
Speaker 2: Spot on, mate, spot on, Just erase everything. People erase everything.
Speaker 2: Boys just win yardage through victory and the speed of
Speaker 2: the play the ball. You must stop Selwyn Cobbo and
Speaker 2: Jojo Fieda on those early tackles and play one, two
Speaker 2: and three. Got to stop them. Alternatively, Mark you, Mark
Speaker 2: Jack Bosstock, Teddy, You've got to get us forward right
Speaker 2: and because if we can do that, we're going to
Speaker 2: get Nathan into attack kick position regularly. And if we
Speaker 2: can do that, if you can regularly be there, we'll
Speaker 2: win the football game.
Speaker 1: Before we get into predictions, can I just ask you,
Speaker 1: Jewish Jack, you're timing that you're on the bit this
Speaker 1: this year's state of origin, because it's been a little
Speaker 1: bit weird like and yous have been hammered quite a
Speaker 1: bit by some of their performances. But where is it
Speaker 1: ranked as a spectacle, you guys think in context of
Speaker 1: some other stat of origins, because the games himself, some
Speaker 1: of the games they haven't been like the drama has
Speaker 1: been good in it, like Calipong has send off and stuff,
Speaker 1: but the quality of the football overall in terms of
Speaker 1: a contest probably hasn't been the high standard.
Speaker 2: The attack, I mean the attacking, some of the attacks
Speaker 2: stuff has been brilliant, like in Melbourne, which traditionally a
Speaker 2: really hard place to attack it the MCG which is
Speaker 2: slippery and whatnot. The standard of football's hands and that
Speaker 2: was just outstanding. But you're right, they're sort of been.
Speaker 1: Just not eighty minutes worth of the real context.
Speaker 2: Could be one of them. This could be one of
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was out saying. In fairness though it
Speaker 3: does feel very like first game in Queensland, second game,
Speaker 3: the pressure went on New South Wales because you could
Speaker 3: have wrapped up the series and the pressure was a
Speaker 3: bit off Queensland. This game very much seems like it's
Speaker 3: building both teams of yeah, both teams can win this game. Queensland,
Speaker 3: like Queensland should be the favorites, but again New South
Speaker 3: Wales like the pressure sort of on them now, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because like everyone's saying yourself, well, shouldn't have won Game one,
Speaker 3: they didn't win Game two. Queensland's to eat up. But
Speaker 3: like that's a that's a hell of an advantage I
Speaker 3: think for the Blues, like in terms of they're what
Speaker 3: they've got going on in their camp.
Speaker 1: We can't win for the first time ever. You know,
Speaker 1: we actually are the underdogs and we can't win.
Speaker 2: Okay, predictions, prediction, ship, intuition, Okay, what's something you trust?
Speaker 2: Fifty five this year, I've been in the game and
Speaker 2: like I don't want to sound like a fuck uick,
Speaker 2: That's how I am. I have been in the game,
Speaker 2: loving this game for fifty years. Sometimes you don't let
Speaker 2: stats and that get in the way of your intuition.
Speaker 2: Intuition is fifty years bundled up into decision made developed
Speaker 2: in the subconscious. I like it.
Speaker 1: CHATPT and AI numbers mean shit.
Speaker 2: All mean ship mate, when you're been through, I'll give
Speaker 2: you an idea. I don't know why I backed this.
Speaker 2: One day I got there. There's this horse running in Belmont,
Speaker 2: Western Australia, and I've got there and I've gone I
Speaker 2: just got to get a bet on it last second.
Speaker 2: I've looked and seen this horse's name Military Jane and
Speaker 2: just went, oh, you've got to get a bed on it,
Speaker 2: and just had five bucks on it. When it started
Speaker 2: to run. It was one hundred to one and I thought,
Speaker 2: but I just thought there was something about the name.
Speaker 2: It won. I got it here, Military Jane. What you so?
Speaker 1: What are you telling us about?
Speaker 2: Now? That was intuition. It was intuition, and what it
Speaker 2: was let me speak here for what it was is
Speaker 2: all that time in the game that you develop. Don't
Speaker 2: ignore your intuition, your gut feel. People. When it's something
Speaker 2: that you love and you've been in a long time
Speaker 2: and you just get a gut feel as your intuition,
Speaker 2: it's all your life experience bundled up in your data
Speaker 2: center brain. And for that reason, I'm going to New
Speaker 2: South Wales. It's my gut feel. My intuition was a
Speaker 2: New South Wales win.
Speaker 1: By I love it and win by eight and what
Speaker 1: can you give us? Give us a Wally Lewis Medalist
Speaker 1: and a triscord.
Speaker 2: I'll go, We're going to go Nathan Clear if me
Speaker 2: out of the match. But intuition, Sammy Walker has a
Speaker 2: really good game as well, and could be maybe the
Speaker 2: first player in this in the history of State of Origin.
Speaker 2: I would suggest to doing the Wally Lewis medal in
Speaker 2: a losing series. Okay, yeah, I like that. Yeah, triscore
Speaker 2: Jack boss stop from a Nathan Cleary kick Jack attack?
Speaker 1: Have you got have you got a prediction for us?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah? Before I say that, fifty five in Mandarin,
Speaker 3: Cobber is woo shi woo, just letting you know that.
Speaker 2: It's a beauty. Jackson's a You're on fire? May you Jack,
Speaker 2: You've nailed and it's yeah, really you old means got
Speaker 2: COVID and you're bringing out Amanda in COVID fifteen.
Speaker 3: I'm going with Cam Murray to get my men of
Speaker 3: the match, and I'm going to go with anytime try scorer.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Hudson Young and who.
Speaker 1: Wins Jack Yes for free to say? All right mine
Speaker 1: New South Wales. I think they get it done up
Speaker 1: at sun called aka Lange Park. I've got a tryscorer, Mark,
Speaker 1: no Wang need a say. I think he gets it Marky,
Speaker 1: Mark loves it and my man of the match and
Speaker 1: I think Wally Lewis medalist. I'm going to left field
Speaker 1: Ive got Hudson young.
Speaker 2: Wow, So he's gonna need a big performance.
Speaker 1: I think he's been one's best yep, and I think
Speaker 1: he's he's a man that needs to We don't win
Speaker 1: unless he gets after Sam.
Speaker 2: Walker, gotcha right. Just let people know that when you
Speaker 2: wake up first thing Saturday, sorry, Thursday morning, you'll have
Speaker 2: our origin review straight after the game.
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be out.
Speaker 3: I reckon when you usually get out by jackis it
Speaker 3: gets out about twelve am, midnight, midnight?
Speaker 1: He gets out midnight? So will you truckies? Will anyone
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Speaker 1: missus has put you on the couch, or because you
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