1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,590 Sean Aylmer: Welcome to the Fear and Greed Daily Interview. I'm Sean Aylmer. 2 00:00:06,950 --> 00:00:10,190 Sean Aylmer: The film and television industry is booming in Australia, with 3 00:00:10,190 --> 00:00:14,360 Sean Aylmer: Hollywood productions flocking to our relatively safe shores during the pandemic. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,180 Sean Aylmer: And Byron Bay has been the focal point of all 5 00:00:17,180 --> 00:00:20,330 Sean Aylmer: that attention. Over the past 18 months, locals have been 6 00:00:20,329 --> 00:00:23,690 Sean Aylmer: mixing with the likes of Chris Hemsworth, Nicole Kidman, Matt Damon, 7 00:00:23,930 --> 00:00:27,960 Sean Aylmer: Zac Efron, Natalie Portman, Melissa McCarthy and the list just goes on. Now, 8 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:30,920 Sean Aylmer: the first and only film studio based in the region, 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,880 Sean Aylmer: Byron Studios, is looking to expand and become a hub 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,400 Sean Aylmer: for some of the biggest film and TV productions from 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,220 Sean Aylmer: around the world. And they've hired new muscle to help 12 00:00:40,220 --> 00:00:43,040 Sean Aylmer: them do it. Paul Anderson is the newly appointed chief 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,100 Sean Aylmer: executive at Byron Studios. Paul, welcome to Fear and Greed. 14 00:00:46,310 --> 00:00:47,659 Paul Anderson: Thanks very much, Sean. Great to be here. 15 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:50,949 Sean Aylmer: Congratulations on the gig. I mean, 17 years at Channel 10, 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,960 Sean Aylmer: five of them as CEO. What prompted the change? 17 00:00:54,570 --> 00:00:56,300 Paul Anderson: Oh, look, I think it had been coming for a while. 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,980 Paul Anderson: I think a lot of people thought I was mad. 19 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:00,080 Paul Anderson: Quite a few people thought I got fired, actually, it's quite 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Paul Anderson: an unusual way to go to resign from a free 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,000 Paul Anderson: to air network in Australia. Look, no, I'd been there for... 22 00:01:07,209 --> 00:01:08,270 Sean Aylmer: You're unique at least! 23 00:01:08,330 --> 00:01:11,720 Paul Anderson: That's right. Not that many people believe it in media circles. 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Paul Anderson: But look, I think in all seriousness, I'd been there 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,709 Paul Anderson: for 17 years. I had five years as CEO. You know, 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,590 Paul Anderson: I'm a big believer that companies need new blood. Plus also, 27 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:23,690 Paul Anderson: you know, I thought it was time for me to 28 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:27,170 Paul Anderson: have a change. And I actually resigned the Wednesday prior 29 00:01:27,170 --> 00:01:29,840 Paul Anderson: to the Australian Grand Prix that got cancelled in Melbourne, 30 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:34,310 Paul Anderson: which was the start of this whole latest pandemic saga. 31 00:01:34,670 --> 00:01:37,760 Sean Aylmer: Okay, so it's a massive change from running a major 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,690 Sean Aylmer: media company, particularly one owned by a US giant, compared to 33 00:01:41,690 --> 00:01:43,100 Sean Aylmer: a smaller independent operation. 34 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:46,100 Paul Anderson: Yeah, it is and look, it's an enormous change and 35 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:49,340 Paul Anderson: an enormously good change. But look, you know, I absolutely loved 36 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:53,030 Paul Anderson: my time at 10. They were extremely formative years for me, 37 00:01:53,090 --> 00:01:56,060 Paul Anderson: especially the last five and the last couple when we 38 00:01:56,060 --> 00:01:59,660 Paul Anderson: were owned by CBS, which was quite an extraordinary period, 39 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,330 Paul Anderson: not just in my career, but also as part of 40 00:02:02,330 --> 00:02:05,480 Paul Anderson: the whole landscape and in television in Australia, which is, 41 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,900 Paul Anderson: I think, been an enormous positive. So, you know, I 42 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:14,270 Paul Anderson: think the difference is you're managing a large organisation owned internationally 43 00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:17,300 Paul Anderson: and then moving to something that is, you know, a 44 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:21,919 Paul Anderson: very small, agile organisation that's got a grand vision situated in a pretty amazing 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,230 Paul Anderson: part of the world, you know, with an incredibly passionate 46 00:02:24,230 --> 00:02:27,320 Paul Anderson: team about what they're doing. So it's been a great 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:27,980 Paul Anderson: change for me. 48 00:02:28,340 --> 00:02:30,600 Sean Aylmer: I love the word agile in this instance, Paul, because 49 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,410 Sean Aylmer: I used to run the newsrooms at Fairfax and then starting 50 00:02:33,410 --> 00:02:35,510 Sean Aylmer: Fear and Greed and doing things like this. What I found is 51 00:02:35,510 --> 00:02:37,910 Sean Aylmer: that when I ran the newsrooms at Fairfax, pretty much 52 00:02:37,910 --> 00:02:41,030 Sean Aylmer: everyone did everything for me. Now I do the photocopying 53 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,610 Sean Aylmer: and I reckon that is agile, actually. And it must 54 00:02:43,610 --> 00:02:46,340 Sean Aylmer: be weird when someone like you that ran such a 55 00:02:46,430 --> 00:02:50,299 Sean Aylmer: proud and iconic company, you probably are doing your photocopying. 56 00:02:50,810 --> 00:02:54,200 Paul Anderson: Well, if I can find it. I don't think I have a photocopier actually. But look, 57 00:02:55,710 --> 00:02:58,490 Paul Anderson: that's a really good point because I think we do 58 00:02:58,490 --> 00:03:01,490 Paul Anderson: get used to, you know, working in these big organisations. 59 00:03:01,490 --> 00:03:03,080 Paul Anderson: You know, I grew up in a small farming town 60 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,800 Paul Anderson: in New Zealand, so it's pretty cool that sort of I'm 61 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,780 Paul Anderson: quite proud of myself in some ways that I've thrown 62 00:03:08,780 --> 00:03:10,489 Paul Anderson: all the cards up in the air and... 63 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Sean Aylmer: Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I think it's wonderful. 64 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:12,950 Paul Anderson: ...and done something quite different. So, yeah, full service! 65 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,810 Sean Aylmer: So why do you think Byron Bay has become somewhat 66 00:03:17,810 --> 00:03:20,750 Sean Aylmer: of a Mecca for film and TV in recent years? 67 00:03:20,750 --> 00:03:21,859 Sean Aylmer: Why is it so attractive? 68 00:03:22,220 --> 00:03:24,800 Paul Anderson: Look, you know, I think a lot of people ask 69 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,410 Paul Anderson: that question. I mean, it's obviously an incredibly beautiful part 70 00:03:27,410 --> 00:03:29,660 Paul Anderson: of the world, there's something quite magical up here. You know, 71 00:03:29,660 --> 00:03:32,570 Paul Anderson: anyone that comes to Byron on holiday, you always feel 72 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:36,290 Paul Anderson: better about yourself. Look, it's obviously got some natural beauty. 73 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:38,390 Paul Anderson: It's got a great climate. It's got a number of 74 00:03:38,390 --> 00:03:41,210 Paul Anderson: high profile people that obviously live up here. But I 75 00:03:41,210 --> 00:03:43,670 Paul Anderson: think there's also many more low profile people that have 76 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:46,280 Paul Anderson: chosen to live their life up here. Bring their children 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,680 Paul Anderson: up here. There's a lot of filmmakers and there's a 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,620 Paul Anderson: you know, there's a large, highly skilled, creative community that 79 00:03:51,620 --> 00:03:53,780 Paul Anderson: has lived here for a long period of time, which 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,550 Paul Anderson: is probably now becoming a focus. So I think it's 81 00:03:58,550 --> 00:04:01,370 Paul Anderson: a combination of all of those things. And I think 82 00:04:01,370 --> 00:04:04,220 Paul Anderson: those high profile people that live here have really helped 83 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,780 Paul Anderson: draw projects to the region. 84 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:11,540 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, is I mean, what's the pandemic done? Generally, at 85 00:04:11,540 --> 00:04:13,280 Sean Aylmer: the moment, we're sort of in and out of lockdowns 86 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Sean Aylmer: and Byron Bay is certainly part of that. 87 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:15,400 Paul Anderson: Yeah. 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,600 Sean Aylmer: In terms of what's happened in the last 18 months 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,020 Sean Aylmer: with film production in Australia more generally rather than specifically 90 00:04:21,020 --> 00:04:24,260 Sean Aylmer: at Byron, it seems like COVID hasn't hurt the local 91 00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:25,760 Sean Aylmer: industry as much as others. 92 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,900 Paul Anderson: No, look, you know, it's obviously had Australia, you know, 93 00:04:29,930 --> 00:04:31,790 Paul Anderson: I think in the early stages, obviously handled it a 94 00:04:31,790 --> 00:04:35,810 Paul Anderson: lot better. It was easier to make film and television 95 00:04:35,810 --> 00:04:38,060 Paul Anderson: in Australia than it was in other parts of the world. 96 00:04:38,450 --> 00:04:41,150 Paul Anderson: So I think that's one part of it. The second 97 00:04:41,150 --> 00:04:43,790 Paul Anderson: part is technology, which I think has played a huge 98 00:04:43,790 --> 00:04:46,700 Paul Anderson: part in people doing their jobs, not just in television 99 00:04:46,700 --> 00:04:50,179 Paul Anderson: and film, in any part of the world. So, you know, 100 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:52,220 Paul Anderson: you can have a production that's being filmed in Los 101 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:55,220 Paul Anderson: Angeles or in London and you can have the visual 102 00:04:55,220 --> 00:04:57,950 Paul Anderson: effects work being done here in Byron Bay. So I 103 00:04:57,950 --> 00:05:00,109 Paul Anderson: think that's a large part of it as well. 104 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:04,770 Sean Aylmer: Has the town of Byron, taking it further from what you're saying there and the 105 00:05:04,770 --> 00:05:07,619 Sean Aylmer: shift of creative's into Byron Bay and Lennox Head and 106 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:10,799 Sean Aylmer: that general area in northern New South Wales, has the 107 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,070 Sean Aylmer: community changed, do you think? Because traditionally it is much 108 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:17,130 Sean Aylmer: more of an agricultural part of the world and tourism, obviously. 109 00:05:17,290 --> 00:05:20,070 Paul Anderson: Yeah, look, I think that that's just a natural evolution 110 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:24,000 Paul Anderson: that probably comes back to this technology combined with the pandemic. 111 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:27,330 Paul Anderson: I've had lots of people say that they had thought 112 00:05:27,330 --> 00:05:30,210 Paul Anderson: about perhaps in five years time making that sea change 113 00:05:30,210 --> 00:05:31,950 Paul Anderson: to Byron or some of the part of the world 114 00:05:31,980 --> 00:05:34,020 Paul Anderson: and get out of the city. And I think what 115 00:05:34,020 --> 00:05:36,510 Paul Anderson: the pandemic has done is it's really made people think 116 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:38,549 Paul Anderson: about things and say, well, if I'm going to do it, 117 00:05:38,730 --> 00:05:40,080 Paul Anderson: I might as well go and do it now because 118 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,140 Paul Anderson: we've got to work from home anyway. So it's kind 119 00:05:43,140 --> 00:05:46,260 Paul Anderson: of hastened that up. So, look, you know, do I think, 120 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,339 Paul Anderson: I think that creative community has always been here. Yes, it's 121 00:05:49,350 --> 00:05:52,589 Paul Anderson: had tourism and agriculture. But I think that this sort 122 00:05:52,589 --> 00:05:54,180 Paul Anderson: of brought that to the surface now. 123 00:05:54,620 --> 00:05:56,760 Sean Aylmer: Okay, so tell me about Byron Studios. How did you 124 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,220 Sean Aylmer: end up getting involved in taking the job as CEO? 125 00:05:59,730 --> 00:06:03,539 Paul Anderson: Well, Will Gammon and Mark Holden were the two founders of Byron Studios 126 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:07,109 Paul Anderson: and Will has a very successful visual effects business up 127 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:10,710 Paul Anderson: here called Cumulus. So I met them last year when 128 00:06:10,710 --> 00:06:13,109 Paul Anderson: we moved up here, and it kind of just evolved 129 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:17,820 Paul Anderson: from there. So they have a vision that there is this large 130 00:06:17,820 --> 00:06:21,659 Paul Anderson: creative community up here. What is missing, and there's obviously 131 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:23,669 Paul Anderson: a lot of movies that have been made up here, 132 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:25,969 Paul Anderson: particularly in the last sort of 12 months or so, 133 00:06:25,980 --> 00:06:28,320 Paul Anderson: is that what's missing is this sort of hub that 134 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,860 Paul Anderson: brings it all together. So their vision is to build 135 00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:35,820 Paul Anderson: these soundstages, to build a studio that becomes more than that, 136 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:40,020 Paul Anderson: becomes this sort of media precinct. So you draw on 137 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:44,330 Paul Anderson: all of the businesses that surround those, that production of content. 138 00:06:44,339 --> 00:06:48,479 Paul Anderson: So, whether it's visual effects and post-production, photography and so forth 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,650 Paul Anderson: into one space which has those quite big flow on 140 00:06:52,650 --> 00:06:57,300 Paul Anderson: impacts into the local economy for employment, education and create 141 00:06:57,300 --> 00:07:00,450 Paul Anderson: something that's sustainable. So I think their vision is not 142 00:07:00,450 --> 00:07:03,750 Paul Anderson: so much about building big boxes just to produce films 143 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:07,650 Paul Anderson: and television. It's everything else that goes with it. Whilst, 144 00:07:07,650 --> 00:07:09,900 Paul Anderson: you know, thinking about the community at large, which is 145 00:07:10,290 --> 00:07:12,270 Paul Anderson: something you get in a small region like this. 146 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:14,880 Sean Aylmer: Stay with me, Paul. We'll be back in a minute. 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,980 Sean Aylmer: My guest this morning is Paul Anderson, Chief Executive Officer 148 00:07:22,980 --> 00:07:26,910 Sean Aylmer: of Byron Studios. So how does it work? I'm very 149 00:07:26,910 --> 00:07:31,320 Sean Aylmer: limited in my knowledge of the industry. Does Byron Studios 150 00:07:31,470 --> 00:07:34,920 Sean Aylmer: pitch for work? Does it create its own kind of 151 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,620 Sean Aylmer: microcosm where it has all sorts of skills, where people 152 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:40,350 Sean Aylmer: come to it? I just don't quite know the process 153 00:07:40,350 --> 00:07:42,570 Sean Aylmer: of how you get involved in the industry. 154 00:07:43,310 --> 00:07:45,600 Paul Anderson: Look, it's a combination of both. So at the moment, we 155 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,020 Paul Anderson: have two studios in Alstonville, so we have the space 156 00:07:49,020 --> 00:07:52,770 Paul Anderson: that most recently Netflix have been filming their series God's 157 00:07:52,770 --> 00:07:54,330 Paul Anderson: Favorite Idiot with Melissa McCarthy. 158 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,650 Sean Aylmer: In Alstonville? 159 00:07:55,650 --> 00:07:55,890 Paul Anderson: In Alstonville, yeah. 160 00:07:56,940 --> 00:07:57,300 Sean Aylmer: Wow. 161 00:07:57,540 --> 00:08:00,900 Paul Anderson: Which is nice and close to close to Ballina airport and has lots 162 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:04,380 Paul Anderson: of space. So we provide the infrastructure and then, you 163 00:08:04,380 --> 00:08:08,130 Paul Anderson: know what happens around that with all of the ancillary 164 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,310 Paul Anderson: post-production and so forth, that's kind of all up in 165 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:14,990 Paul Anderson: the air. But, you know, these industries grow. You know, 166 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Paul Anderson: you end up with, whether it's catering, it's painters, it's set builders, 167 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,210 Paul Anderson: it's electricians, all of those things sort of bubble up around. 168 00:08:22,230 --> 00:08:25,230 Paul Anderson: So that's kind of what we have created on a 169 00:08:25,230 --> 00:08:27,810 Paul Anderson: small scale at the moment. And our ambition is to 170 00:08:27,810 --> 00:08:29,080 Paul Anderson: create something much larger. 171 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,500 Sean Aylmer: And is it, I mean, you mentioned William Gammon, who's 172 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:34,110 Sean Aylmer: worked on Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Terminator. You've 173 00:08:34,110 --> 00:08:37,620 Sean Aylmer: got Pat Grier, who's CEO of Ramsay Health. Your screen industry 174 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:40,920 Sean Aylmer: consultant helped discover Russell Crowe, Eric Bana, Hugo Weaving. All 175 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,740 Sean Aylmer: these incredible names. Is a lot of it, kind of 176 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:46,380 Sean Aylmer: that network and if you kind of surround yourself with 177 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:48,300 Sean Aylmer: great people, stuff happens? 178 00:08:48,809 --> 00:08:51,870 Paul Anderson: Yeah, look, it is. It's a great group of people that are 179 00:08:51,870 --> 00:08:55,110 Paul Anderson: involved in the studios. And, you know, that's like any business. 180 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:57,270 Paul Anderson: You surround yourself with great people. And I think all 181 00:08:57,270 --> 00:08:59,280 Paul Anderson: these people, they all live up here in this Northern 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,060 Paul Anderson: Rivers area. They have a passion for the industry and 183 00:09:03,059 --> 00:09:06,270 Paul Anderson: they want to create something that is sustainable in this 184 00:09:06,270 --> 00:09:08,100 Paul Anderson: part of the world. And it's very different when you're 185 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:12,000 Paul Anderson: doing that in a regional area like the Northern Rivers, as 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,700 Paul Anderson: opposed to doing it in a Sydney or a Melbourne or a Los 187 00:09:14,700 --> 00:09:17,850 Paul Anderson: Angeles or a London. So, yeah, it is. It's that passion 188 00:09:17,850 --> 00:09:19,920 Paul Anderson: and that drive from those people that will make this 189 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,540 Paul Anderson: thing ultimately succeed. 190 00:09:21,870 --> 00:09:24,660 Sean Aylmer: So, Paul, where would you hope to be in five years? 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,060 Paul Anderson: Look, in five years, we would hope to have our 192 00:09:27,059 --> 00:09:31,380 Paul Anderson: studios built. We've got a terrific partner in Ballina Council 193 00:09:31,380 --> 00:09:34,829 Paul Anderson: who's very keen to work with us and see this happen. 194 00:09:34,830 --> 00:09:37,199 Paul Anderson: So in five years time, you know, we would love 195 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,309 Paul Anderson: to have these soundstages built and have those soundstages complemented 196 00:09:41,309 --> 00:09:44,850 Paul Anderson: by public spaces. We would like to have an arts precinct, 197 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,710 Paul Anderson: you know, movie theatres, outdoor cinemas and so forth, all 198 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:54,990 Paul Anderson: surrounding what we envision is one large media precinct in 199 00:09:54,990 --> 00:09:56,530 Paul Anderson: a pretty unique part of the world. 200 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:59,819 Sean Aylmer: Yeah, I mean, you mentioned the council there, Ballina Council, 201 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:02,010 Sean Aylmer: which obviously you need the support of any local government 202 00:10:02,010 --> 00:10:04,859 Sean Aylmer: area you're in. What about the general population? Do you 203 00:10:04,860 --> 00:10:05,740 Sean Aylmer: think they're supportive? 204 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,840 Paul Anderson: Look, I think they are. And like any new business, 205 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,599 Paul Anderson: you know, when we started in Alstonville with the studios, 206 00:10:12,809 --> 00:10:17,310 Paul Anderson: it's a relatively small town. So, you know, noise, traffic, 207 00:10:17,309 --> 00:10:20,250 Paul Anderson: all of those things were obviously an issue at the start. 208 00:10:20,580 --> 00:10:24,510 Paul Anderson: But over time, the benefits of having a business like 209 00:10:24,510 --> 00:10:27,540 Paul Anderson: that in your area and the, you know, just the 210 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:31,380 Paul Anderson: extra revenue that it brings into the local economy, you know, 211 00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:35,310 Paul Anderson: the jobs that it creates, people slowly start to understand 212 00:10:35,309 --> 00:10:39,390 Paul Anderson: that whilst there's little annoying things along the way, the overwhelming 213 00:10:39,390 --> 00:10:42,179 Paul Anderson: benefit to the local area is an absolute no brainer. 214 00:10:42,630 --> 00:10:45,240 Sean Aylmer: And, Paul, do you and your family miss living in Sydney or 215 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:46,110 Sean Aylmer: are you enjoying Byron? 216 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,900 Paul Anderson: Oh, look, it's funny. Once you've lived in one place 217 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:50,760 Paul Anderson: for a long time, it does take a little time 218 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,770 Paul Anderson: to get your head around that. But we've got a 219 00:10:52,770 --> 00:10:55,140 Paul Anderson: small farm up here, 20 minutes outside of Byron. I 220 00:10:55,140 --> 00:10:57,870 Paul Anderson: grew up on a farm in New Zealand, so it's 221 00:10:57,870 --> 00:11:00,360 Paul Anderson: great to be sort of back to my roots in 222 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,070 Paul Anderson: some ways and great for the family, too, because, you know, 223 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:05,760 Paul Anderson: people you know, the kids are building, you know, vegie 224 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,340 Paul Anderson: gardens and things rather than playing PlayStation. 225 00:11:09,210 --> 00:11:11,520 Sean Aylmer: Fantastic. Paul, thank you for talking to Fear and Greed. 226 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:13,840 Paul Anderson: Absolute pleasure. Thanks a lot. 227 00:11:14,250 --> 00:11:17,820 Sean Aylmer: That was Paul Anderson, CEO of Byron Studios. This is 228 00:11:17,820 --> 00:11:20,220 Sean Aylmer: the Fear and Greed Daily Interview. Join me every morning 229 00:11:20,220 --> 00:11:22,559 Sean Aylmer: for the full Fear and Greed podcast. With all the 230 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,559 Sean Aylmer: business news you need to know. I'm Sean Aylmer. Enjoy 231 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:25,980 Sean Aylmer: your day.