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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening.
Speaker 3: Well, we've got just under two weeks left until the
Speaker 3: Christmas break. That's seven shows and you don't want to
Speaker 3: miss any of them. Coming up tonight to Donald Trump
Speaker 3: putting Joe Biden to shame before he's even in the
Speaker 3: White House's threatening to rain down hell on America's enemies.
Speaker 3: James Patterson will join me to discuss whether Alban Easy
Speaker 3: and Penny Wong should take a leaf out of Trump's playbook.
Speaker 3: Also tonight, the economist calling out Labour's reckless spending will
Speaker 3: be on the show. Chris Richardson says families are getting
Speaker 3: less as the taxman is getting more. That interview coming up,
Speaker 3: and the academic who seems to be protected by Sydney
Speaker 3: University despite a police investigation and threats made to hosts.
Speaker 2: Here on Sky News, Carolyn.
Speaker 3: Marcus will share her exclusive with us plus our much
Speaker 3: loved and famous Christmas light displays under threat thanks to
Speaker 3: soaring power bills. I'll talk about that a bit later
Speaker 3: on and tonight a topic close to my heart. A
Speaker 3: new United States report to tay concluded that COVID originated
Speaker 3: in a wu hand lab I'll speak about that with
Speaker 3: Bronwan Bishop and Kayleb Bond in a moment also on
Speaker 3: the show Tonight, Meet the newest Liberal pre selected to
Speaker 3: try win back a seat from a Teal his first
Speaker 3: interview tonight. But now another politician has come out today
Speaker 3: to accuse Albanzi of not telling the full story on
Speaker 3: those environmental laws. We've been speaking about how Albanezi torpedoed
Speaker 3: a deal that Tanya Plibisek had done with the Greens.
Speaker 2: The Prime Minister.
Speaker 3: Denied a deal had been done, acting as if Plebisek
Speaker 3: was from another political party, not a senior cabinet minister.
Speaker 4: These environment laws. Clearly a deal was either close or,
Speaker 4: according to the Greens, was done.
Speaker 5: They reckon you did.
Speaker 6: Course say that, no, we hadn't, and they don't say
Speaker 6: that David, there if no one in the Green says
Speaker 6: that I agreed to it.
Speaker 2: Clearly there was an agreement.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't with Albanizi himself, it was with his minister.
Speaker 3: And now today more evidence is building that Albanezi misled
Speaker 3: the public when he claimed a deal hadn't been done.
Speaker 3: Independent Senator for the Act David Pocock has come out
Speaker 3: to say that as far as.
Speaker 2: He was concerned a deal had been done.
Speaker 7: I certainly thought we had a deal. Municipal of Sec
Speaker 7: was a good faith negotiator in this. I thought we'd
Speaker 7: landed at a point where where everyone was happy. And
Speaker 7: it's incredibly disappointing that neither the Greens nor the PM
Speaker 7: seemed to want to be able to sort of really
Speaker 7: prioritize this, and I think internal party politics probably got
Speaker 7: in the way.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, clearly there was a
Speaker 3: deal ready to be signed, sealed and delivered, but Albinizi
Speaker 3: killed it off, realizing it would cost votes in Wa
Speaker 3: after an intervention from Wa Premier Roger Cook.
Speaker 2: The laws were radical and should never have gone ahead.
Speaker 3: But the point is this is disunity at the highest
Speaker 3: level of the Albanese government. It's the Prime minister undermining
Speaker 3: and gas lighting a senior cabinet minister and its poor
Speaker 3: treatment of a senior woman. The rift between Albanesi and
Speaker 3: Plibasek is now causing internal angst in the Labor Party.
Speaker 2: But this saga also shows how.
Speaker 3: Sketchy Albanzi can be with the truth, how he doesn't
Speaker 3: feel the public necessarily has a right to know the
Speaker 3: honest truth behind why some laws go ahead and others don't.
Speaker 3: Remember this is the man who promise to do politics differently,
Speaker 3: who promised transparency.
Speaker 6: The truth is that where an open transparent party for
Speaker 6: there needs to be complete transparency. What we need is
Speaker 6: a prime minister who's prepared to be transparent, a more
Speaker 6: honest and transparent a government going forward who will make
Speaker 6: it transparent but being transparent.
Speaker 2: But that was before the election campaign.
Speaker 3: Promises clearly don't count, not as far as Albinizi is concerned.
Speaker 3: And today Peter Dutton is highlighting another broken promise that
Speaker 3: power bills would be two hundred and seventy five dollars cheaper.
Speaker 3: He claims it's been three years to the day that
Speaker 3: Albanizi made this now failed promise, and he didn't.
Speaker 6: Just promise at once two hundred and two hundred and
Speaker 6: two hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 4: DOLLARSS Labour said at ninety seven times before the last election.
Speaker 5: But what's he delivered?
Speaker 8: Well, electricity prices are now up to one thousand dollars
Speaker 8: more than what Labor promised.
Speaker 3: Well, power bills and energy will be a key election
Speaker 3: issue and if there are blackouts across Australia this summer.
Speaker 3: Chris Bowen and Alban Easy will be held responsible and
Speaker 3: it'll be yet another reason for voters to abandon alban Easy.
Speaker 3: And this is on top of the growing list so far,
Speaker 3: which includes government spending skyrocketing, and we'll talk about that
Speaker 3: with Chris Richardson later, the cost of living crisis deepening
Speaker 3: while countries around the world are emerging from the woods,
Speaker 3: the Big Australia policy, the housing affordability crisis, and the
Speaker 3: devastating issue of anti Semitism and lawlessness that's been compared
Speaker 3: with nineteen thirties Europe. All of this under Albanesi's watch.
Speaker 3: It's no wonder the coalition has now overtaken labor in newspot.
Speaker 3: Albin Easy, you'd have to say, is a failed prime
Speaker 3: minister who doesn't deserve to be sitting in the lodge.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has today come out swinging in full support
Speaker 3: of the one hundred and one innocent hostages remaining in Gaza.
Speaker 3: He has threatened that if the hostages aren't released by
Speaker 3: January twenty, there will be hell to pay.
Speaker 2: He's said on social media.
Speaker 3: If the hostages are not released prior to January twenty
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, the date that I proudly assume office
Speaker 3: as President of the United States. There will be all
Speaker 3: hell to pay in the Middle East, and for those
Speaker 3: in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity. He said,
Speaker 3: those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been
Speaker 3: hit in the long and storied history of the United
Speaker 3: States of America. Well, that's deterrence, and that's what strength
Speaker 3: and determination looks like.
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to go back and think. Think, what
Speaker 2: were the strongest.
Speaker 3: Words the current President, Joe Biden ever said about the hostages.
Speaker 3: Mostly the attitude of the Biden administration was to put
Speaker 3: pressure on Israel for not doing enough to release them.
Speaker 3: There's been absurd victim blaming. There was certainly more pressure
Speaker 3: on Israel than on Hermas.
Speaker 9: There the civilian suffering of the Palace Indian people, and finally, finally,
Speaker 9: finally deliver a cease firing in this war.
Speaker 10: For months, people all over the world have called for ceasefire.
Speaker 10: I've consistently pressed for a pause in the fighting for
Speaker 10: two reasons, to accelerate and expand humanitarian assistance going into Gaza,
Speaker 10: and two to facilitate the release of hostages.
Speaker 3: I mean just asking for a cease fire, not demanding
Speaker 3: and forcing, as the leader of the free world, should
Speaker 3: that the terrorists released the hostage, who, by the way,
Speaker 3: include American citizens, And unlike Trump's clear threat to the
Speaker 3: barbaric terrorists that they'd be held to pay, well, this
Speaker 3: was Biden's weak message to Iran.
Speaker 5: It would have apprisedge to Iran in this moment.
Speaker 3: Don't don't, And in his delusional state, perhaps he thought
Speaker 3: his message resonated because he repeated it on other occasions
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 10: What is your message to Hezbollah and its backer Iran, don't.
Speaker 5: Don't, don't don't.
Speaker 3: The Ayatolas of Iran were hardly quaking in their boots,
Speaker 3: and in response to Biden's one word message, what did
Speaker 3: Tehran do will? It launched unprecedented direct attacks on Israel,
Speaker 3: including a barrage of.
Speaker 2: Two hundred ballistic missiles.
Speaker 3: Biden also did everything he could to work against Israeli
Speaker 3: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo. Biden made demands that Netanyaho not
Speaker 3: go into Rafa, where the hostages were being held. He
Speaker 3: demanded he let Nozralla live. He demanded there be no
Speaker 3: ground invasion. This despite the fact that four hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty three days on, there are still one hundred hostages
Speaker 3: held captive by Hamas and other terror groups in Gaza.
Speaker 3: They've been in the dark dungeons, underground, starved, beaten, and
Speaker 3: some execute it. It's thought, but we don't know for sure,
Speaker 3: that about half are still alive. Those who are still
Speaker 3: there include baby Kafir, his brother Ariel, and their mother.
Speaker 2: And it breaks my heart to think of them.
Speaker 3: Baby Kafir never even got to celebrate his first birthday
Speaker 3: in the outside world before he was dragged away by
Speaker 3: bloodthirsty terrorists to the hell hell of underground tunnels. It's
Speaker 3: beyond devastating to think of that, and yet no one
Speaker 3: speaks about the hostages.
Speaker 2: No one does anything.
Speaker 3: When I was in Israel, I spoke to two former
Speaker 3: hostages and they told me just how bad the conditions were.
Speaker 3: One of them a sixty three year old Aviva Siegel.
Speaker 3: She was kidnapped in her pajamas from her bed. She
Speaker 3: said she could barely breathe in the tunnels.
Speaker 11: The conditions were the worst conditions that you can think about.
Speaker 2: I just thought that I'm going to die. The kid's
Speaker 2: going to die.
Speaker 3: She spoke about how Palestinian civilians celebrated as she was
Speaker 3: dragged terrified into Gaza. She said it was like a
Speaker 3: party for them. And her husband, Keith is still captive
Speaker 3: and she can only pray that he's alive and he's
Speaker 3: an American citizen. By the way, the American president should
Speaker 3: have done everything in his power to try and secure
Speaker 3: the release of American hostages, but Biden hasn't, and more
Speaker 3: than four hundred days on, Trump is now threatening brutal
Speaker 3: hell if the hostages aren't released, and it's a threat
Speaker 3: he made after having dinner with Israeli Prime Minister Nettiyahu's
Speaker 3: wife Sara, and sanyayir At Mari Lago and Sarah did
Speaker 3: discuss the plight of the hostages at that dinner with Trump.
Speaker 3: It's a strong signal that Trump and Neettiyahoo will be
Speaker 3: able to work together to defeat terrorism, to bring home
Speaker 3: the hostages, and to stop Iran's aggression. It's been long enough.
Speaker 3: Strong action needs to be taken. We've been begging for
Speaker 3: international leadership, and finally we're starting to see that leadership.
Speaker 3: We can hope that this determination and strong approach from
Speaker 3: Trump has a chance of working. Because Joe Biden's approach
Speaker 3: of appeasement, of going softly softly with terrorists, Well it
Speaker 3: was never going to work. All right, Another big show ahead,
Speaker 3: as I said, Leading economist Chris Richardson will join me
Speaker 3: live later on, plus James Patterson and Carolyn Marcus all
Speaker 3: coming up. But now let's bring in former Speaker of
Speaker 3: the House Bronwin Bishop and Stein New's host Caleb Bond.
Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. Great to see you, as always
Speaker 2: in a Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I want to ask you your reaction to David Pocock,
Speaker 3: the Independent Senator coming out today to dispute Albanezi's version
Speaker 3: of events that there wasn't a deal on the environmental laws.
Speaker 12: You don't have to be very bright to figure out
Speaker 12: there was a deal done by Plibasic and that Alberanize
Speaker 12: you spoke to the Premier of Western Australia. This will
Speaker 12: put the seats. It was plask out, so all the
Speaker 12: people who thought they were going to get this deal,
Speaker 12: which was hideous for Australia. So I'm rather pleased we've
Speaker 12: ulled out of it. Otherwise it would be up to
Speaker 12: Prime Minister Dunton to reverse it. So but equally he's
Speaker 12: simply took and the bad blood between two to six.
Speaker 12: And Albanesi is palpable for all to see. First of all,
Speaker 12: he thought he could bury it, bury her in the
Speaker 12: environmental portfolio. Yeah, and that's turned out to come back
Speaker 12: and bite him.
Speaker 2: She's causing him ASTs of problems.
Speaker 12: Which he has so and of course they are they're rivals.
Speaker 12: There are seats next door to each other and both
Speaker 12: on the left. And she had the temerity to come
Speaker 12: out as deputy b deputy prime minister when or would
Speaker 12: be deputy Prime Minister to shortened when Albanesi thought that
Speaker 12: was his kid. So there's there's lots of things.
Speaker 3: And he'd be worried about her as a future leadership
Speaker 3: rival as well. But Caleb, you know what about the
Speaker 3: fact that he has effectively, as I said, undermined and
Speaker 3: gas lit a senior woman in his cabinet. I mean
Speaker 3: he claimed Scott Morrison had a woman problem. Look, he
Speaker 3: is treating the scene a female and his own.
Speaker 1: Dis It's a very good point. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's hardly reeks of cabinet government, does it. It reminds
Speaker 1: me a bit of his matedown in Victoria. Daniel Andrews
Speaker 1: who ruled the cabinet with an iron fist. It was
Speaker 1: Dan's way or the highway, and he was very effective
Speaker 1: in consolidating power by threatening the members of his own
Speaker 1: cabinet and saying, well, if you want to stay here,
Speaker 1: you've got to join my faction. I mean, he managed
Speaker 1: to turn the Treasurer Tim Pallas from the right to
Speaker 1: the socialist left. How does that happen unless you put
Speaker 1: a gun against someone's head. The problem for Elbow now
Speaker 1: is I think we're talking about exactly this last week
Speaker 1: on this panel. He has basically nothing to point to
Speaker 1: as an achievement. While he has been Prime Minister going
Speaker 1: into the next federal election and in getting rid of
Speaker 1: the FEDERALLYPA, which was an election promise as bad as
Speaker 1: a proposal it might have been. He's broken a promise
Speaker 1: and he's next one of the only things that he
Speaker 1: could have said, oh yeah, we actually did something that
Speaker 1: was on our policy platform, because he's realized, oh well,
Speaker 1: it'll get us in trouble. Like Bronwin said in Western Australia,
Speaker 1: the man has no principles. He's realized now that he's
Speaker 1: cooked and he's doing everything he can to go backward.
Speaker 1: To one hundred miles an hour in the hope that
Speaker 1: it will save him at the next federal election. I
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit late for that.
Speaker 3: It's so frustrating when politicians campaign on transparency and accountability
Speaker 3: actually a bit like the Teals, and then they go
Speaker 3: on to do the exact opposite.
Speaker 12: I don't think any of them can spell transparency letter
Speaker 12: known know what it means. Yeah, indeed, all right, I
Speaker 12: think you're a bit kind about saying ab and as
Speaker 12: he had a steel fist.
Speaker 1: No, no, it's a bit of a lympnos I suspect,
Speaker 1: but you know he's giving it a go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think it's the opposite.
Speaker 3: He lets the ministers do whatever they want. He's not
Speaker 3: across the detail. He tries to pretend that's a good thing,
Speaker 3: but really he's just too lazy to do the work
Speaker 3: to get across the detail.
Speaker 12: He's already checked out personally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is living in the Copacabana Clift Up mansion.
Speaker 2: And he's dreams already. All right.
Speaker 3: Well, Amo is warning that gas supplies need to now
Speaker 3: be carefully managed heading into summer, or else there'll be
Speaker 3: a risk that the energy grid stability will be damaged
Speaker 3: or will be volatile across the East coast.
Speaker 2: Run when this is.
Speaker 3: Yet another warning from a EMO that you know we
Speaker 3: have a vulnerable energy grid.
Speaker 12: Yeah, a bit to catch up, aren't they, because there
Speaker 12: are lots of us saying this is a problem, that
Speaker 12: it is all going to happen, and Albow will be
Speaker 12: regretting the fact that he didn't go on the seventh
Speaker 12: of December when they were all ready to go. Lost
Speaker 12: their nerve because it's not going to get any better. Blackouts,
Speaker 12: more strikes, people who are cancelling, more deals, the whole scene.
Speaker 12: There'll be no red cup. The whole thing is going
Speaker 12: to get worse blowouts from the budget which will become
Speaker 12: more apparent. There's no way they're having another budget. So
Speaker 12: when we see AMO come out like this and suddenly
Speaker 12: admit what we've all known, that blackouts are on the
Speaker 12: horizon and that the gas hasn't been produced, and at
Speaker 12: about time they demanded of those people who own those
Speaker 12: coal fire power stations to up the maintenance and have
Speaker 12: them ready to go because they're getting to be needed.
Speaker 3: It makes people so angry when we think that we've
Speaker 3: been exploiing so much gas.
Speaker 1: Caleb, Yeah, well, we don't really have a gas reserve
Speaker 1: in this country, which is insane, and the gas reserves
Speaker 1: held by our allies have been depleted in recent years
Speaker 1: that the US gas reserves were at their lowest point
Speaker 1: I think in forty years. Last year they've started building
Speaker 1: that back up again. But we have so much gas
Speaker 1: in this country, particularly in places where we can't extract it,
Speaker 1: including Victoria, which will be the most reliant on gas
Speaker 1: if things go wrong over summer. By the way, it
Speaker 1: was only last year, or might have be been earlier
Speaker 1: this year where the Victorian government finally opened up the idea.
Speaker 1: So oh, yes, we can drill for gas in Victoria
Speaker 1: in but of course no one wants to go and
Speaker 1: spend the money because they know that it was banned
Speaker 1: for a decade under Andrews, So why would you bother
Speaker 1: going to do that. We don't use the resources that
Speaker 1: we have in this country, whether it's uranium or coal
Speaker 1: or gas. We send it all overseas for other people
Speaker 1: to burn, and we used to go a lot. We're
Speaker 1: doing the great thing for the environment here. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter where you burn it. We all live in the
Speaker 1: same world, So why don't we just keep some for
Speaker 1: ourselves so we can have cheap and reliable energy. Otherwise
Speaker 1: you end up like South Australia, where now the Energy
Speaker 1: Minister Tom kots and Thomas is begging for Eneri to
Speaker 1: put two diesel generators back in the market.
Speaker 3: How's that for queen and green energy insanity? Okay, let's
Speaker 3: turn to the US now. A congressional subcommittee today has
Speaker 3: declared that COVID nineteen most likely originated in a lab
Speaker 3: in Wuhan. This finding was part of a five hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty page report after a two year investigation.
Speaker 2: China has tonight hit back, have a look.
Speaker 11: Lape origin of the pandemic is extremely unlikely. The United
Speaker 11: States should immediately stop weaponizing and politicizing this issue. Stop
Speaker 11: sling maud.
Speaker 3: Or the ABC the whole way alongsided with China claimed
Speaker 3: this was a conspiracy branwin.
Speaker 2: Yet now in this report.
Speaker 3: Even more official you know evidence, Yet no apology to
Speaker 3: viewers by the ABC for misleading.
Speaker 12: Them not to mention your excellent book. Thank you very well, researched,
Speaker 12: very well, presented in a slam deck case. Yes, of
Speaker 12: course it came out of Wuvan, Of course it did.
Speaker 12: The Chinese could just as easily be, mister Fauci, because
Speaker 12: he was. He was complicit the whole deal too, in
Speaker 12: my estimation. So I just think that the Chinese don't
Speaker 12: want to lose face. That's their problem. They don't want
Speaker 12: to lose face, says I'll hit out and hit out,
Speaker 12: but it will become quite apparent, as it did to
Speaker 12: many of us very early on that of course it
Speaker 12: came out of there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, you were ridiculed. I just
Speaker 3: remembered as well by the ABC for your comments on this.
Speaker 2: Just before we go. Look, we've been talking.
Speaker 3: About how Joe Biden pardoned his son Hunter. Well, it
Speaker 3: was a very funny comment on this from the TV
Speaker 3: host John Stewart. If we can play that and have
Speaker 3: a look at that clip, eleven years is.
Speaker 2: A very specific.
Speaker 13: And not rounded amount of time, So honor, I'll give
Speaker 13: you a pardon a few years, five years, ten years.
Speaker 5: It needs to be eleven.
Speaker 11: And if you would be so kind, make sure this
Speaker 11: upcoming New Year's Eve is also covered.
Speaker 2: Shit's going to get Christy.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious, Caleb, but it's also you know, so thus
Speaker 3: you and ridiculous because you know very specific time period
Speaker 3: eleven years that the pardon applies to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and it goes all the way back
Speaker 1: to Hunter beginning to do deals with Barrisma and Ukraine, etc.
Speaker 1: And the question is what was the connection between Hunter
Speaker 1: and his father when these deals were being done. Close
Speaker 1: associates of Hunter Biden's have testified that he was using
Speaker 1: his father, who was then Vice president, to get business
Speaker 1: deals done overseas and that potentially the Biden family benefited
Speaker 1: from that. So, including those eleven years is running cover
Speaker 1: for the president as much as it is for his son.
Speaker 1: And if you've got that power available to you, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you use it? I know it's insane and it's awful,
Speaker 1: but why wouldn't you use it? He's just done what's
Speaker 1: in front of him.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they'll find some way, the Trump administration of
Speaker 3: getting around and having a look at what they can investigate. Nonetheless, Bronwan,
Speaker 3: Bishop cayleb Bond, thank you both very much. All right,
Speaker 3: returning to the major story today that Donald Trump has
Speaker 3: threatened to unleash Hell if the hostages aren't returned. Let's
Speaker 3: bring in now Shadow Home Affairs Minister James Patterson. James,
Speaker 3: thanks for your time as always look, we've seen weak
Speaker 3: international leadership more inclined to criticize Israel than demand Hamas
Speaker 3: actually hand back the hostages, and the Albanese government seems
Speaker 3: to think the hostages are an afterthought as they keep
Speaker 3: criticizing Israel. Should our politicians take a leaf out of
Speaker 3: Trump's book and deal with terrorists through strength rather than appeasement.
Speaker 14: It's great to be with you, Shari, and I think
Speaker 14: you're absolutely right that the Albanezy government's response from the
Speaker 14: very beginning of this crisis has been weakness and false
Speaker 14: moral equivalents, and it's now very clear that they're being
Speaker 14: driven by their political interests, and they are putting that
Speaker 14: ahead of the national interest. The national interest and Australia's
Speaker 14: values would have dictated that immediately after the seventh of
Speaker 14: October we stood shoulder to shoulder with our friend and
Speaker 14: our ally Israel, and that we did everything we could
Speaker 14: to support them in their attempts to regain their citizens
Speaker 14: who are so cruelly taken hostage by Hamas on the
Speaker 14: seventh October. The especially cruel thing about this today, as
Speaker 14: you pointed out in your editorial, Shari, is that of
Speaker 14: those one hundred and one hostages who are still captive
Speaker 14: of Hamas in Gaza in the tunnels, we don't know
Speaker 14: and their families don't know how many of them are
Speaker 14: left alive. And yet the Albanzi government has been making
Speaker 14: tokenistic references occasionally to hostages, but in some of their
Speaker 14: public comments recently haven't even had the pretense to pretend
Speaker 14: that they care about that anymore. And they've moved on
Speaker 14: to be far more focused on their political interests, which
Speaker 14: I think is going to play out in the coming
Speaker 14: days and weeks.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking about the political interests, there's breaking news tonight
Speaker 3: and the City Morning Herald website that the Albanezi government
Speaker 3: and I'm quoting from that article now, that the Albanizi
Speaker 3: government is preparing to again anger Israel by switching Australia's
Speaker 3: stance on the Israeli Palestinian conflict in a series of
Speaker 3: high profile United Nations votes, which include a resolution aimed
Speaker 3: at creating an irreversible pathway to a Palestinian state.
Speaker 2: This is Penny Wang in action, and James.
Speaker 3: This comes after the latest hostile UN resolution vote, and
Speaker 3: I revealed that that was a captain's call. Pennywang actually
Speaker 3: ignored the recommendation from Australia's mission at the UN.
Speaker 2: What's your reaction to this news tonight.
Speaker 14: Well, I suspect those reports are accurate and it is
Speaker 14: almost getting to the point where we are losing count
Speaker 14: of the times at which Australia, under Penny Wong's leadership
Speaker 14: as Foreign Minister, has abandoned Israel at the United Nations.
Speaker 14: Pennywong has trashed decades of bipartisanship when it comes to
Speaker 14: our approach to Israel Palestine issues at the United Nations.
Speaker 14: We would always have opposed or at the very least
Speaker 14: abstained from any motion that went to final status issues,
Speaker 14: certainly that prematurely recognized a Palestinian state prior to the
Speaker 14: successful negotiation of a peace disagreement between the Palestinian authority
Speaker 14: and Israel. And it's very clear for all to see
Speaker 14: what is driving this, and that is the Labour Party's
Speaker 14: existential fear and dread that they will lose seats. Spoke
Speaker 14: first in the Inner City to the Greens who are
Speaker 14: attacking them on this issue, and now also in Western
Speaker 14: Sydney where the Muslim Votes Matter movement and others are
Speaker 14: targeting them. But that's a completely reckless and irresponsible thing
Speaker 14: to do, because not only have they abandoned our values,
Speaker 14: not only have they abandoned our interests, they've also put
Speaker 14: an enormous golf between Australia and our closest and most
Speaker 14: important ally of the United States. And that's under the
Speaker 14: Biden administration. The Trump administration will be even more forthright
Speaker 14: in its support for Israel than the Biden administration has been,
Speaker 14: and that golf is getting bigger and bigger. And I
Speaker 14: don't see how it's in our national interest in an
Speaker 14: uncertain strategic environment to have distance between Australia and the
Speaker 14: United States, but apparently the Foreign Minister.
Speaker 3: Does, and it's a national security issue as well. Of
Speaker 3: course you just mentioned then the Muslim vote campaign. Well,
Speaker 3: they've come out in a report in The Australian Today
Speaker 3: and actually said that it might be better to have
Speaker 3: a Dutton government. To send a message to Labor, this
Speaker 3: is some parts of that campaign. What do you think
Speaker 3: about this because Labors show no leadership on this issue
Speaker 3: and instead, as you just said, that foreign policy is
Speaker 3: designed to try win back over radical activists.
Speaker 14: It shows you show that appeasement doesn't work. The Labor
Speaker 14: Party has compromised our foreign policy and national security policy
Speaker 14: and our national interest in an attempt to shore up
Speaker 14: votes in these seats, and it doesn't even work. And
Speaker 14: I think the antidote to appeasement is strength. I think
Speaker 14: the antidote to the moral equivalents we've seen is moral clarity.
Speaker 14: And I think the antidote to the impotence we've seen
Speaker 14: is moral strength. And those are the things that we
Speaker 14: will get from Peter Dutton as Prime Minister if he's
Speaker 14: elected at the next election. He will always put our
Speaker 14: national interests first. He will always stand closely with our allies.
Speaker 14: He'll stand shoulder to shoulder for our values on the
Speaker 14: international stage and international forums. And in Peter Dutton we
Speaker 14: would have the most pro Israel prime start in Australia's history.
Speaker 14: And we've had some very strong pro Israel prime ministers
Speaker 14: like Scott Morrison and Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott and
Speaker 14: John Howard, but he would be even stronger than them.
Speaker 2: Look music to my ears.
Speaker 3: And that would also be a reflection of Trump's cabinet,
Speaker 3: because we've seen that his cabinet, I mean, some have
Speaker 3: said it even more pro Israel than.
Speaker 2: Israel's own Cabinet.
Speaker 3: But you know, Israel so far has had its allies
Speaker 3: basically desert them, so it needs friends at this time
Speaker 3: as it fights for survival. James Patterson, really appreciate your
Speaker 3: clarity as always.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Now still to come.
Speaker 3: Why is the University of Sydney protecting an academic who's
Speaker 3: under police investigation and has threatened Sky News hosts Carolyn
Speaker 3: Marcus would join me and will Chris Bowen become known
Speaker 3: as the Grinch who Stole Christmas? As annual lights displays
Speaker 3: could be under threat thanks to soaring power prices. I'll
Speaker 3: talk about that with my panel after this quick break.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to get into Chris bow and his
Speaker 3: new name is the Grinch who might be stealing Christmas
Speaker 3: to discuss. You can now meet the latest liberal to
Speaker 3: be pre selected to take on the Teals. James Brown
Speaker 3: has been pre selected for the seat of mckella.
Speaker 2: Great to see.
Speaker 3: Oh we've just lost James for resecu' We be back
Speaker 3: in a minute. I'm sure this is Bromwin Bishop's old seat,
Speaker 3: so he'll try and unseat Sophie Scomps. And we're also
Speaker 3: going to bring in Menzies Research Center Executive director Dave Hughes,
Speaker 3: great to see you.
Speaker 2: Gay Look.
Speaker 3: Peter Dutton today launched an attack on Labor for breaking
Speaker 3: their promise to reduce power bills by two hundred and
Speaker 3: seventy five dollars. We played that those comments a little
Speaker 3: earlier in the show Look. At the same time, the
Speaker 3: Daily Telegraph is asking readers to submit their best Christmas
Speaker 3: light displays in the suburb. This is an annual favorite
Speaker 3: where people drive from.
Speaker 2: All over Sydney.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's the case in other cities as well,
Speaker 3: drive from all over to see the homes with the
Speaker 3: most spectacular Christmas light displays. But Dave, there's concerns that,
Speaker 3: given how high people's power bills are, many families won't
Speaker 3: be able to afford to do this.
Speaker 8: I think it was actually three years ago to the
Speaker 8: day Shari that Anthony ALBERNISI first promise power bills would
Speaker 8: be reduced by two hundred and seventy five dollars a year. Now,
Speaker 8: that was a promise that didn't match his policies because
Speaker 8: his policies have actually driven up power prices, and what
Speaker 8: we've seen is we've seen less base load power in
Speaker 8: the market. You know, reliable baseload power that coal, gas
Speaker 8: and nuclear could provide, and we've got intermittent renewables filling
Speaker 8: that gap. Power prices have gone up and families are
Speaker 8: taking decisions to cut costs. So yeah, I wouldn't be
Speaker 8: surprised if there's a lot of families out there in
Speaker 8: the suburbs who are taking those decisions not to maybe
Speaker 8: scale down their Christmas lights displays.
Speaker 3: This year, and not to mention James, you know, we're
Speaker 3: being told that on hot days we shouldn't be running our.
Speaker 2: Dishwasher past three pm.
Speaker 3: Well, what's the state government going to say about these
Speaker 3: Christmas light displays?
Speaker 4: We'll sharrying my neighbor's not the Christmas lights up already.
Speaker 4: The gauntlet has been thrown down and I'm well behind.
Speaker 4: But that's the decision we have to make. We've got
Speaker 4: a grid that is increasingly fragile. Can we run the
Speaker 4: air conditioning that we need, can we run the Christmas lights,
Speaker 4: can we run the fridge? And can we pay for
Speaker 4: it all? And that's the challenge that families are looking
Speaker 4: at as we go into Christmas.
Speaker 5: This is a tough.
Speaker 4: Time for families that are not where they want to be.
Speaker 4: Economically that are facing the pressure of higher interest rates,
Speaker 4: who are looking at how they're going to afford presents,
Speaker 4: and we're here because of the policies of the government.
Speaker 4: They've led us to this point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a scary thought, and you know, I just
Speaker 3: worry and I wish there was Maybe I'll try to
Speaker 3: find out in the next few days. You know, there's
Speaker 3: going to be children out there who can't afford the
Speaker 3: parents can't afford Christmas present. So I think we need
Speaker 3: to find out what we can do to help those
Speaker 3: families in the next week and a half before we
Speaker 3: break for Christmas. Now, one of Australia's biggest banks has
Speaker 3: slapped another fee on customers.
Speaker 2: This has outraged everyone today, charging.
Speaker 3: Three dollars each time people want to withdraw their own
Speaker 3: money from a branch, a post office or by phone.
Speaker 3: This is come back, David. This seems insanity. You know,
Speaker 3: this continual paying to take out cash.
Speaker 8: You can understand why people want to have easy access
Speaker 8: to cash in this day and age, because of transaction
Speaker 8: fees and the like. I've got a briefing from the
Speaker 8: Commonwealth Bank this afternoon on this on this issue. They
Speaker 8: say that there'll be exemptions for a lot of pensioners
Speaker 8: and people that have I think two thousand dollars coming
Speaker 8: into their accounts so every month. So most way journeys
Speaker 8: will be exempt, and of course people feel can feel
Speaker 8: free to shop around as well, if the.
Speaker 3: People even know how to go through the process of
Speaker 3: getting that exemption. Sitting on hold for hours at a time.
Speaker 3: None of this is easy, this is.
Speaker 8: True, but yeah, it's an issue we face now. My
Speaker 8: barber only accepts cash because he's had enough with these
Speaker 8: transaction fees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, class businesses a lot.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really frustrating for businesses as well, So this
Speaker 8: is why people are people are drawn to cash. I
Speaker 8: hope it doesn't create any issues for the most vulnerable
Speaker 8: as well, as we talk about those pensioners in particular
Speaker 8: who might not know how to use an ATM. But
Speaker 8: I think through these changes today, I think come off
Speaker 8: bank ATMs will still be able to be access free
Speaker 8: of charge for their customers.
Speaker 3: James, you're starting to do the rounds. I mentioned before
Speaker 3: that you've just been pre selected as a Liberal candidate
Speaker 3: for mckella br'm a bishop's old seat. We just had
Speaker 3: her on the show. You're trying to knock off the
Speaker 3: till you know. Is this one of the issues that
Speaker 3: you're finding matters to people when you're don knocking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks Charan.
Speaker 4: It's a great honor to be stepping up on the
Speaker 4: seat where Bronwin Bishop was a member for so long
Speaker 4: and she's still so loved by the community.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 4: Pensioners, as David mentioned, are the ones who use cash
Speaker 4: the most, and a lot of them haven't moved into
Speaker 4: the world of internet banking. They like to go to
Speaker 4: a branch. They like to be able to get cash
Speaker 4: once a month across the tele accounter and use that
Speaker 4: to pay their expenses. So this is another challenge for
Speaker 4: them to navigate. It's another hit on top of the
Speaker 4: surcharges that we're seeing. All of this adds up and
Speaker 4: creates pressure.
Speaker 15: I mean, the.
Speaker 4: People I'm talking to are telling me that there is
Speaker 4: a lot going on beneath the surface at the moment,
Speaker 4: a lot of financial stress beneath the surface. And on
Speaker 4: the northern beaches, you've only got to look at the
Speaker 4: areas where people park their secondhand cars for sale, or
Speaker 4: on Pittwater and Baron Joey Rhodes, those cueues of cars
Speaker 4: for Salah much longer than I've ever seen them, and
Speaker 4: that shows you people can't afford to run that second car.
Speaker 4: They can't keep the groceries, the school fees, all of
Speaker 4: that going at once.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all a lot. It all adds up petrol
Speaker 3: prices as well. Now let's turn to Queen's line now,
Speaker 3: because we're seeing human rights groups are trying to stop
Speaker 3: the newly elected Premier David Chris Fooley from implementing.
Speaker 2: His adult crime adult time laws.
Speaker 3: These groups are claiming that it's going to clog up
Speaker 3: the justice system. I mean, David, surely, of all issues,
Speaker 3: he has a mandate to ignore these groups on this
Speaker 3: particular issue.
Speaker 2: When youth crime is such a problem in Queensland.
Speaker 8: And Shari, if it's going to clog up the prisons
Speaker 8: and youth detention centers, build more, don't weaken the laws
Speaker 8: to accommodate that. I see the UN have criticized these
Speaker 8: laws as being inhumane. This is, of course the same
Speaker 8: UN that has Russia sitting on the Security Council. A
Speaker 8: few years ago in Queensland there was a young couple
Speaker 8: expecting their first child that were tragically killed by a
Speaker 8: drunk driver juvenile driver on drugs, a long list of
Speaker 8: offenses in his history. He'll be released soon. The maximum
Speaker 8: sentence Sake who provide was ten years, but he'll be
Speaker 8: out sooner than that. There is a strong case for
Speaker 8: these laws.
Speaker 2: Chris A.
Speaker 8: Foley has a mandate they should be implemented head and
Speaker 8: he needs to stand firm.
Speaker 3: Indeed, James, before you go, I just want to get
Speaker 3: your you know, as former RSL president, I want to
Speaker 3: get your feedback on what you think of Albaneze's response
Speaker 3: to the Royal Commission yesterday.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, Shari, I'm a liberal candidate for office, so I'll
Speaker 4: bag the government all day long about how it's letting
Speaker 4: the defense for slide and leaving us unprepared. But on
Speaker 4: this I do want to say that I think it's
Speaker 4: been taken seriously on a bipartisan basis. So I've personally
Speaker 4: seen the commitment of Minister Matt Keo on this issue,
Speaker 4: and I've seen the commitment of the Secretary of the
Speaker 4: Department of Veterans Affairs, Alison Frame, who I think is
Speaker 4: doing a good job. Barnaby Joyce, al spokesman himself, a veteran,
Speaker 4: has been tireless on this too. I mean this Royal Commission.
Speaker 4: As you know, because you were there with me fighting
Speaker 4: for it a number of years ago. Convincing the Morrison
Speaker 4: government to step up and investigate this issue was a
Speaker 4: long time coming. The issues are really complex. Some of
Speaker 4: the steps we've seen implemented today will take a long
Speaker 4: time to change the system. But the change is happening
Speaker 4: and the problems been acknowledged, and I think most importantly
Speaker 4: the veterans who were suffering and their families have been
Speaker 4: heard and recognized, and you know that will go a
Speaker 4: long way to addressing this chrirect problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a long time coming, but yes, as you say,
Speaker 3: it's going to take a long time for these issues
Speaker 3: to be properly addressed. All right, Thank you both so much,
Speaker 3: Dave Hughes, James Brown. Great to see you both. Now
Speaker 3: still to come. The highly respected economist exposing the Albanezi
Speaker 3: government's reckless spending, Chris Richardson says families are getting less
Speaker 3: of the tax man is getting more. Plus why the
Speaker 3: University of Sydney continues to employ an academic threatening hosts
Speaker 3: here on Sky News. Well, Caroline Marcus will join me
Speaker 3: with that exclusive after this break. Welcome back with the
Speaker 3: University of Sydney has referred one of its own academics
Speaker 3: to police after he threatened Jewish groups and sky News hosts.
Speaker 3: Joel Griggs's online history has exposed his anti Israel, anti
Speaker 3: Zionist stunts. In one post, directed to the Australian Jewish
Speaker 3: Association president David Adler, he tweeted that the AJA is
Speaker 3: a fascist and terror cell. If the government isn't going
Speaker 3: to move on these dangerous psychopaths, can we maybe pull
Speaker 3: something together on Twitter? Couldn't be too hard to find
Speaker 3: out where these people live. In another, he referenced my
Speaker 3: colleague Andrew Bolt, and he posted, will get you one day?
Speaker 3: You seditious, traitorous scum Caroline Marcus who joins me now
Speaker 3: she's the sky News reporter who broke this exclusive story. Caroline,
Speaker 3: there are so many offensive tweets others he said people
Speaker 3: should be put up against a wall.
Speaker 15: Yes, he even said you should be put up against
Speaker 15: a wall, Sharian and the tweet that he about Andrew
Speaker 15: Bolt included several other sky News hosts, as well as
Speaker 15: digital staff who posts the tweets onto the sky News
Speaker 15: Twitter account. But in terms of yourself and some other
Speaker 15: sky News hosts. He also said that these traitorous scum
Speaker 15: should be put up against the wall and Australia would
Speaker 15: be a lot better off.
Speaker 3: And yet the University of Sydney still continue to employ him.
Speaker 3: They've referred him to police, but they won't stack him.
Speaker 15: What is this Well, a spokesman from the university told
Speaker 15: me that they found some of his posts so concerning
Speaker 15: that they felt compelled to refer them to the Inner
Speaker 15: West Police Area Command in Sydney.
Speaker 2: Now there is a.
Speaker 15: Little bit of confusion because police say they haven't received
Speaker 15: any sort of formal report, but the university, I understand,
Speaker 15: did refer this material to them back in September. Now
Speaker 15: they did say, however, they told the Jewish Grip that
Speaker 15: they couldn't take any disciplinary action against him due to
Speaker 15: the threats being made in a personal capacity, because they
Speaker 15: were made on his Twitter account, which was public. I've
Speaker 15: learned a few minutes ago that it's actually been switched
Speaker 15: to private now and that they weren't being made in
Speaker 15: the name of the university. But he mentioned several times
Speaker 15: his employment at the university and the fact that he's
Speaker 15: taught there for eight years. So I'll leave that to
Speaker 15: your viewers to decide whether that justification for not taking
Speaker 15: disciplinary action stands. They also quoted the academic freedom as
Speaker 15: part of the code of conduct and that they need
Speaker 15: to protect academic freedom.
Speaker 2: But if making.
Speaker 15: Threats of what appears to be violence against people, including
Speaker 15: colleagues at Sky News constitutes academic freedom, well, I think
Speaker 15: that will leave a lot of people feeling puzzled.
Speaker 3: And you'd think that parents whose children are attending the
Speaker 3: University of Sydney, you know that they wouldn't necessarily feel
Speaker 3: comfortable being taught by someone who has made threats like.
Speaker 2: This whole life exactly.
Speaker 15: And not only that, the university is obviously under intense
Speaker 15: scrutiny over its handling of anti Semitism on campus. It's
Speaker 15: vice chancellor, Mark Scott has admitted to failing Jurish students
Speaker 15: and staff, and only on Friday he tried to deny
Speaker 15: that the university was an incubator for anti semitism, and
Speaker 15: then we learn about this case. So I think the
Speaker 15: university will have a lot of questions to answer about
Speaker 15: how it's handled this too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, look, I want to turn to nine Entertainment.
Speaker 3: One of their senior reporters, Airly Walsh.
Speaker 2: She's highly respected.
Speaker 3: News today that she's suing the network in the federal court.
Speaker 3: This comes amid the major cultural reckoning that's hit Nine
Speaker 3: since the sexual harassment scandal broke.
Speaker 2: Now we know Aarly Welsh file.
Speaker 3: A human rights sex discrimination case against her employer. No suggestion, Well,
Speaker 3: it's not clear who it's related to. No suggestion it's
Speaker 3: related to the disgrace Darren Wick, Caroline. We both know
Speaker 3: Ellie Welsh well. She is one of the nicest reporters around.
Speaker 3: She's a delight to be around when you're out on jobs,
Speaker 3: a wonderful mother, very courageous of her and brave of
Speaker 3: her to take this step.
Speaker 15: Yeah, this is no easy feed because, as many women
Speaker 15: have learned over the years, that taking action against your employer,
Speaker 15: when it comes to a media company, and in particular
Speaker 15: a commercial television network, can spell the end of your career.
Speaker 15: And let's hope that's not the case for Emi, because
Speaker 15: I think she has a very promising career and I
Speaker 15: was hoping to see her return after her maternity leap,
Speaker 15: which she's currently on after having her baby son last year. Now,
Speaker 15: she's worked at Line for fifteen years and we don't
Speaker 15: know the details of this case that's been filed in
Speaker 15: the federal core, but we do know that she has
Speaker 15: filed a human rights sex discrimination case against Nine. As
Speaker 15: you said, we don't know whether that's to do and
Speaker 15: there's no suggestion that's to do with Darren Wick, despite
Speaker 15: him being accused of sexual harassment. We don't know by
Speaker 15: who or by sources. I know you've spoken to some,
Speaker 15: but it is it speaks to the culture that we've
Speaker 15: been learning about at nine. And I previously worked at nine,
Speaker 15: including working alongside Airly when I did shifts for nine News,
Speaker 15: I was mostly at a current affair. And it's disturbing
Speaker 15: because nine did recently have external investigative workplace investigators look
Speaker 15: into the culture there and it found that more than
Speaker 15: half fifty seven percent of staff working in the broadcast
Speaker 15: division had experienced some form of discrimination, harassment, bullying. So
Speaker 15: it seems to be another example of that. I know
Speaker 15: of at least one other former nine employee who is
Speaker 15: talking to lawyers currently and is planning an action as well.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: Let's hope, as you say, that Elliewosh continues to have
Speaker 3: a long career head of her.
Speaker 2: She is an excellent journalist and a wonderful person.
Speaker 3: Caroline Markers, thank you very much and congrats again and
Speaker 3: you're reporting today now, don't go anywhere. Victoria has been
Speaker 3: ranked last by the Business Opportunity. What this means for
Speaker 3: their souring economy plus one economist has done the numbers
Speaker 3: and shown that labor's cash slash is hurting the budget
Speaker 3: bottom line. Chris Richardson would join me next.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm pleased to say I'm joined now by leading
Speaker 3: economist Chris Richardson. Chris, great to see you, as always,
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time. Now, you've written
Speaker 3: a fascinating piece in the fin Review where you lay
Speaker 3: out how the tax PI, if you like, has changed
Speaker 3: in Australia, the point that families are getting less and
Speaker 3: the tax man is getting more.
Speaker 2: Can you explain this to us?
Speaker 13: Yeah, Budgets move all the time, and we tend to
Speaker 13: assume they move because politicians have made decisions. The main thing, however,
Speaker 13: that shifts them around, is that everything else and three
Speaker 13: big things, migration, inflation, have all had a big impact.
Speaker 13: Inflation in particular does exactly what you just mentioned. It
Speaker 13: takes money from families and it gives it to governments.
Speaker 13: Migration means there's more people we can tax, so that
Speaker 13: gives extra money to the federal government. And war pushed
Speaker 13: up the price of a bunch of things that Australia
Speaker 13: sells to the world, including coal, and again that.
Speaker 5: Gave more money to the budget.
Speaker 13: That's basically why you have seen a budget in surplus.
Speaker 13: That combination of war, migration and inflation delivering the government
Speaker 13: a lot more dollars than Treasury had expected.
Speaker 3: Look, we've seen data today that the government blew that
Speaker 3: government spending blew out to one hundred and ninety five
Speaker 3: billion in the September quarter on the back of rebates,
Speaker 3: handouts and pay hikes.
Speaker 2: How problematic is this spending pattern.
Speaker 5: Well, there has.
Speaker 13: Been a big shift in recent years, starting with the
Speaker 13: feeds increasingly as you know, with the states, towards spending more.
Speaker 13: And that's a change in the national social compact. That's
Speaker 13: what governments are. You know, we tax workers, we tax businesses.
Speaker 13: We spend that on the young and the old and
Speaker 13: the sick and the poor, and.
Speaker 5: That combination has changed in recent years. Something's in particular
Speaker 5: much more expensive. The ndies is a good example.
Speaker 13: But we also as a nation promised ourselves a variety
Speaker 13: of things in things like age care that we hadn't
Speaker 13: been properly funding under governments of all stripes.
Speaker 5: That combination increasingly catching up with us.
Speaker 3: We've seen analysis in recent or in the past week
Speaker 3: really about how household disposable income is declining rapidly in Australia.
Speaker 3: We're not comparing favorably with other countries around the world.
Speaker 2: Why is this the case.
Speaker 5: It's been a bigger hit here.
Speaker 13: Our fight against inflation, deliberately has been slower than you've
Speaker 13: seen elsewhere in the world. The intent has been to
Speaker 13: make sure we keep unemployment as low as we can
Speaker 13: as we fight our inflation. But a slow fight against
Speaker 13: inflation is an expensive one, you know. It means wages
Speaker 13: further behind prices. Again, inflation helps governments at the cost
Speaker 13: of families. It keeps infrastrates higher for longer.
Speaker 5: We now have a lot of debt.
Speaker 13: That combination means we've got a pretty big hit to
Speaker 13: living standards here in Australia.
Speaker 5: Data out tomorrow should start to show the beginnings of
Speaker 5: a rebound.
Speaker 13: The tax cut and the energy rebates come with a
Speaker 13: variety of effects, but they do help our standard of
Speaker 13: living and you'll see that in tomorrow's numbers.
Speaker 3: Chris, in your view, is the alban Easy government doing
Speaker 3: enough to fight inflation?
Speaker 13: No, I don't think so, And to be fair, that
Speaker 13: fight is and mostly should be with the Reserve Bank.
Speaker 5: But the International Monetary Fund says.
Speaker 13: If governments want to help their central banks fight inflation,
Speaker 13: then governments need to cut spending and raise taxes.
Speaker 5: Or in other words, if inflation is.
Speaker 13: A problem of too much money chasing too little stuff,
Speaker 13: governments can help by taking money out of the system instead.
Speaker 5: In most governments around the world.
Speaker 13: But particularly here in Australia, are doing the opposite your
Speaker 13: big text cuts, big increases in spending, Dadison helping the
Speaker 13: fight for the Reserve Bank.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're probably going to see even more pre
Speaker 3: election spending as we get closer to the campaign and
Speaker 3: Albaneze's falling in the polls, he's going to feel the
Speaker 3: need to buy back votes. Chris Richardson, appreciate your time,
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and that's it from me. I'll
Speaker 3: see you tomorrow night at eight o'clock. Thanks for watching.
Speaker 3: And here's Paul Murray