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Speaker 1: I get a macome to another installment of I was

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Speaker 1: going to say your favorite show, but that's incredibly presumptuous

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Speaker 1: of me. So I'm just going to be realistic and say,

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Speaker 1: welcome to an episode of a show that you sometimes

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Speaker 1: listen to. Some of you love it, some of you

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Speaker 1: just visit every now and then. I tell you who

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Speaker 1: visits every now and then, Bloody doctor Denise.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hello, Hello, how are we all wait? Well?

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Speaker 1: I can't speak on behalf the rest of the group,

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Speaker 1: but it's all good. Bloody at Melbourne today. It's two

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Speaker 1: five in the PM as we record this Bloody, this

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Speaker 1: gift to the world, and it's Thursday, Thursday the twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: and it's just the most majestic day. I sound like

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Speaker 1: an old person. I'm looking out the window of my office,

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Speaker 1: but so fucking beautiful. I just got back from a

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Speaker 1: walk and I've just tiken all the craigboxes today. This

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Speaker 1: is my second Partty. I've done it bit of uni,

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Speaker 1: I've done a bit of reading, I've done a bit

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Speaker 1: it's it's quite a nice life that I've built. If

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Speaker 1: I do say so myself, I quite enjoy being in

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Speaker 2: Hmm. I want to be happy for you, But deep

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Speaker 1: Like one of the we've got this is not well, fuck,

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Speaker 1: it could be a plug. Hey everyone, Next Monday, the

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Speaker 1: twenty eighth, we're starting our new mentoring group. But it's

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because and whether or not anyone listening ever

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Speaker 1: does any of my things or not doesn't matter. But

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Speaker 1: the whole idea of Week one is called life design.

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Speaker 1: So it's just where we talk about this, this idea,

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Speaker 1: What's my reason? What's my why? And the amount of

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Speaker 2: But help me, who has the knowledge, who knows what

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Speaker 2: You know, what would what would you say to me? Craig?

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Speaker 1: So I would say to you, I mean, there's no

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Speaker 1: So I think that when I say to people what

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Speaker 1: Like these things I am doing every day, not for

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Speaker 1: it's like having a gym membership doesn't guarantee you're going

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Speaker 2: have our eye have like I'm expressing my struggles with

427
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Speaker 2: it right now, the truth is that's what makes you

428
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Speaker 2: feel better and that's what gives you true health because

429
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Speaker 2: it's not just about weight and the physical stuff. Mean,

430
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Speaker 2: it's great to look good. You know, you look great

431
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Speaker 2: with your muscles. I can't believe I disclosed the freaking cell.

432
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: You're like, but we always and it's not a podcast

433
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Speaker 2: if I don't say something stupid about myself and tell

434
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Speaker 2: the world. But you know that's what I focus on.

435
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Speaker 2: But the truth is, it's so much more than that.

436
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Speaker 2: It's so much it's that being present with your family,

437
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 2: with yourself, enjoying life. And that comes from having a

438
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Speaker 2: brain that works, a body that works. Yeah, so so

439
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: much more than just losing a few kilos. I'm going

440
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Speaker 2: to get off my high horse now.

441
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Speaker 1: So I'm doctor Denise. You and I are on the

442
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Speaker 1: same but look, and there's another really important part to

443
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Speaker 1: this is when you when you choose the what you

444
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: think is the easy option, what you think is the comfortable,

445
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: quick fix of fuck, I can I can actually hack this. Right,

446
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: When you are constantly avoiding the thing that is hard

447
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: or uncomfortable or uncertain and unfamiliar, you rob yourself of

448
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to build strength and to build resilience, and

449
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: to build understanding and skill and capacity to be able

450
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Speaker 1: to do hard things in hard times. Right And so

451
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 1: when the shit does hit the fan, and it fucking

452
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: hits the fan for everybody, because you've constantly taken the

453
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Speaker 1: easy option, now you have no strength, Now you have

454
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Speaker 1: no adaptability, Now you have no resilience because you've never

455
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Speaker 1: chosen hard. You've always chosen convenience over effectiveness, or the

456
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Speaker 1: easy path over the right path. Right now, I don't

457
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Speaker 1: think we all need to be up to our next

458
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: in adversity fucking day in day out. But I know,

459
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: and you know, like when I'm working hard, when I'm

460
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: doing hard shit, whether it's hard shit in the gym,

461
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: or hardshit in business or hardship shit in doing a PhD,

462
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Speaker 1: It's like, this is where I become better, This is

463
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Speaker 1: where I build me. And you know, by choosing the

464
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Speaker 1: magic pill, whatever that looks like in real life, that

465
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: metaphoric magic pill, you are losing over the long term

466
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: and gaining something maybe in the short term. But as

467
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Speaker 1: we said, it's an illusion, and that is that, you know,

468
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Speaker 1: like the amount of people that I've had, we've spoken

469
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Speaker 1: about this maybe two times, I reckon, but you know

470
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Speaker 1: how that that whole thing rate of perceived exertion, how

471
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Speaker 1: hard we think we're working in the gym, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: and we tell ourselves this story, and the amount of

473
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Speaker 1: people that have gone to me when I say, all right,

474
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Speaker 1: so what do you I think you're working out right now?

475
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Speaker 1: And they say eight or nine? And I know they're

476
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Speaker 1: working at four right just because I know, And I go, okay,

477
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Speaker 1: so I don't want to you know, this actually sounds

478
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Speaker 1: like an insult.

479
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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 1: It's a compliment. You're not working at eight or nine.

481
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Speaker 1: You've got no fucking idea what eight or nine looks

482
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Speaker 1: like right at the minute. So here's what I want

483
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Speaker 1: you to do. And so the person who does ten

484
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Speaker 1: reps on something and then tells me that was real hard,

485
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Speaker 1: And then I say, I want we're going to do

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Speaker 1: the same way I want you to do twenty thirty

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Speaker 1: forty reps. And they look at me like I'm fucking strange,

488
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Speaker 1: And I say I promise you you've got no idea

489
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Speaker 1: of your potential. And then nearly every time that person

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Speaker 1: will do thirty or forty reps, the person that a

491
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Speaker 1: minute ago could only do ten and might struggle on

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Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen. So you tell them a new story,

493
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Speaker 1: and the story is based I mean, I'm not guessing

494
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Speaker 1: like I'm pretty good at that shit, right, because I've

495
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: been in that position so many times. Then all of

496
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Speaker 1: a sudden, and it's not even about doing the forty reps.

497
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Speaker 1: It's not about the physiology. It's about the psychological consequence

498
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Speaker 1: of somebody going, ah, my body's great. My problem is

499
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Speaker 1: my thinking. How do I get my thinking out of

500
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Speaker 1: the way? How do I get my thinking out of

501
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: the way of my body's potential for amazingness? Like you

502
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Speaker 1: know it the shit that we can do. And this

503
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Speaker 1: is not me trying to be positive or encouraging, but

504
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Speaker 1: you know, I go in the gym and I do

505
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Speaker 1: a set of chins, and I'm sixty one without great genetics,

506
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Speaker 1: and I can do twelve or fifteen. Do twelve or

507
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Speaker 1: fifteen chins.

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Speaker 2: You go get it, And you're lifting a lot of

509
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Speaker 2: muscle too, right, So when you think about the weight

510
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Speaker 2: that you're it's it's a weight because you're full of muscle.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not boasting. I'm just saying, actually, what I

512
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Speaker 1: can do, Go get the average thirty year old from

513
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Speaker 1: fucking downtown wherever and say now. And that's not because

514
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Speaker 1: they don't have the capacity. That maybe got even better

515
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: genetics than me, but it's just because they're not doing that.

516
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Speaker 1: And if you said too, like I have this really

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Speaker 1: common experience, I'll have whatever, two hundred people in a

518
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Speaker 1: room and I'll go, put up your hand if you'd

519
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: like to be a bit stronger, a bit leaner, a

520
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: bit fitter, a bit healthier, Like every hand goes up,

521
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: but none of them are doing the work to create that,

522
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Like they all want it, but they don't want to do,

523
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: like they want the outcome, but not the journey. And

524
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: then you go, all right, now you all just told

525
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: me voluntarily that you want your body to be different.

526
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Who's going to do what's required? Like, who's going to

527
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Speaker 1: take that journey? And I don't say that to make

528
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Speaker 1: people uncomfortable. I just say that to underline the fact

529
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Speaker 1: that all the talking, all the theory, all the research,

530
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Speaker 1: all the YouTube fucking watching, all the U Project. Listening

531
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: all good, but none of it's doing the work. Like ultimately, Ultimately,

532
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Speaker 1: I think, and I said this, I had a podcast

533
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Speaker 1: with one of our regulars, Bobby, just before I said, ultimately,

534
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Speaker 1: what really matters, I think for a lot of people

535
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: is what we do when no one's looking, when no

536
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: one's cheering, when no one gives a fuck about you

537
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: and your cellar, like Denise, when no one's going, ah,

538
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: go you you're fucking fuck all that, fuck all that.

539
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: Show me what you can do when no one cares.

540
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: Show me what you can do in the darkness, and

541
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Speaker 1: then bring that into the light, and then people will

542
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Speaker 1: see show me what you can do when you don't

543
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: feel like it. You know, we have incredible potential, but

544
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: our mind, our laziness, our procrastination, our bullshit gets in

545
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: the way.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about that. I've got two things.

547
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Speaker 2: I want to ask them and try to remember the

548
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Speaker 2: other one. So I focus on one thing at a

549
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: time because they're two different things. And the listeners like,

550
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Speaker 2: what is you're talking about? So the brain stuff, right,

551
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: you're doing a PhD, this sort of neuropsychology stuff, and

552
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, for someone like myself who honestly does have

553
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: the knowledge and not even not even the knowledge about

554
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, exercise is good for me. We've actually got

555
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: studies to show that it reduces mild cognitive decline, not

556
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Speaker 2: even just in the in the sense of reducing risk

557
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: for you know, cardiovascular disease, cognitive decline stuff. We actually

558
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: have some studies to show it can once you even

559
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: start to get these memory disorders, exercise can reverse that.

560
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Speaker 2: So we have so many good studies without a doubt.

561
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Speaker 2: I know this, But why even though I want this,

562
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Speaker 2: I know this? What's going on in my little brain

563
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: in the morning that tells me, Yes, my emails are

564
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: important and my business is important? Like is it some

565
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: kind of weird thing or I'm not putting myself Like,

566
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Speaker 2: is there is there some unconsciously thing. Is it a

567
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Speaker 2: safety thing or is it a self worth thing? Is

568
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Speaker 2: there something under that that people tend to go to

569
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Speaker 2: a place and sort of is it a protective mechanism?

570
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm asking you, do you know

571
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: what I'm I'm trying to get too, Like why is

572
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: my brain? Why? Because I just go sometimes I go

573
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Speaker 2: denise you and then there's stuff at the time I'm

574
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: stuffing around trying to do emails or something. Anyway, you

575
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: probably could have actually gone to the gym as well,

576
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Speaker 2: because you've just done this and you've done that, and

577
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Speaker 2: can you give me some insight, Craig Harper, Yeah, one

578
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Speaker 2: hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: All right, So a couple of things I want to

580
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Speaker 1: talk about. So part of the answer to your question

581
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Speaker 1: is that we live in moments, and in the moment,

582
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Speaker 1: quite often we just choose the thing that's nice, we

583
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: choose the thing that's comfy, we choose the thing that's familiar,

584
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Speaker 1: and we do tell ourselves, yeah, I'll get to that later,

585
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: but we tend not to get to that later quite often, right,

586
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 1: So there's that immediacy of you know, like, why do

587
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: people who are out of shape physically, let's just use

588
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: that to let's they're out of shape, they're unhealthy, They've

589
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: got lots of issues as a result of their diet

590
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: and their lifestyle, and they know they know that this,

591
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: this shitty diet is sabotaging their fucking lifespan, health span

592
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: for everything, quality of life, fuck everything, But in the moment,

593
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: they still go to the bakery by two pies, two

594
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: snot blocks, and a chocolate milk, right, Like why, Well,

595
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: it's because all of that shit tastes amazing to them

596
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: in the moment, and so it hijacks their dopamine and

597
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: it's fucking amazing or their brain and it's like, fuck,

598
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: this is great and I feel incredible and this shit

599
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: is magic and I'm having a bad day and this

600
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: takes me out of it and I'm a bit flat

601
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: and I'm a bit depressed and fuck it. He fuck

602
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: it's a drug, Like it's a way to create a

603
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: biochemical shift that feels good. And we love feeling good

604
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: and we don't love, you know. And the other part

605
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: of the story is too like if that story right,

606
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: that that guy or girl that does that, Now, if

607
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: that guy or girl in the moment instead has a

608
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: fucking chicken salad, well the joy ain't there for them.

609
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: Might be for you or me, but it ain't there

610
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: for them because they want the other meal. But also

611
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: what doesn't happen is instant weight loss or fat loss.

612
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: So the story is, fuck it, I'm going to eat

613
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: the snot block and the pies and the beg M

614
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: and I'll start tomorrow. And that becomes a twenty three

615
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: year story, This constant bullshitting ourselves that we're about to start,

616
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: going to start very soon. So many people that I

617
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: talk to about the last meal these questions, and today

618
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: is never the day that they're going to start. It's

619
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: always soon, but not today. It's always next Monday. It's

620
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: always when the kids are finished school, holidays, or it's

621
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Speaker 1: always when you know their ankle's better or something, but

622
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: it's not now. So we have this incredible capacity to

623
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: rationalize stupid fucking behavior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's resonating with me. I think it's the

625
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: rationalizing because I'm like, oh, I've got I really have

626
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: got all this work to do.

627
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: We can make excuses sound like reason, especially you you're smart.

628
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: I can. I can convince myself with complete bullshit because

629
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Speaker 1: because I'm a good communicator, I can make it sound

630
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: like fucking science. It's just garbage. And there's have you

631
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: heard you know, there's a really interesting thing that we

632
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: may have spoken about. I can't remember that. Huberman talks

633
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: about the anterior mid singulate cortex. Have you heard about that?

634
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: We have not talked about it? Share it with me.

635
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's part of the brain. It's called the

636
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: anterior mid singulate cortex. Folks, AMCC. So it's part of

637
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Speaker 1: the brain that when you do hard stuff, it grows.

638
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: It literally creates new neural pathways and it physically gets bigger.

639
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't even matter what the thing is. It

640
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: could be vacuuming, it could be changing your fucking doner cover.

641
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: It could be going for a run, it could be

642
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: ringing your mum and having a hard common station. But

643
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: there are lots of things that we don't want to

644
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: do that we know that we should do. And as

645
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: we lean into this, like a really simple silly example

646
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: is sometimes I'll go downstairs and I've had a big day,

647
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: I've been up since four thirty or five, and there's like,

648
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, a few dishes and I just want to go.

649
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: It's only me. No one's going to see them. I'll

650
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: wash them in the morning. They're in the sink. It's like,

651
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: and I'll never leave them in the sink. I know

652
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: no one's going to see it. I know it makes

653
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: no difference to anyone, but I will always wash them.

654
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: I'll wash them, i'll drive them, I'll put them away

655
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: because weak meat wants to leave them there. And it's like,

656
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: what we're I believe what we're doing. When we're leaning

657
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: into things that are somewhat uncomfortable be mentally, emotionally, physically,

658
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: we're actually building our capacity to function at a higher

659
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: level in the middle of you know, the shit that

660
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: life throws at us. And I think like if were you,

661
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: if I were coaching you right now, I would say,

662
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: tell me one thing that you're going to do for

663
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the next seven days, a new thing, and you're going

664
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 1: to do it seven days in a row. And it's

665
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: not an if or maybe, or if things are okay,

666
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: or if the kids this, or my husband that. What

667
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: would that thing be for you? You've got fourteen hundred and

668
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: forty minutes in a day. What's that one thing that's

669
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: starting today you will do and tell me and the

670
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: listeners and you'll commit to and actually do it.

671
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: I am going to do it. I am going to

672
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: commit to going to the gym in the morning, like

673
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: waking up and just going straight away, just getting to

674
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: the gym. I think sometimes I, as I said, we're

675
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: talking about rationalizing, I sit there and go, oh, that class,

676
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: isn't it a good time? Like there's always these things

677
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: I've just got to go. The thing is I used

678
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 2: to be a trainer. I've got sirt three and four

679
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: don't work in the industry anymore, but I've started exercise physiology.

680
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't actually need someone to tell me what to

681
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 2: do or be in a class like I can just

682
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: rock up in the morning, you know, And that used

683
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: to be my life. So I am really looking forward

684
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: to the next podcast actually to tell you where I have.

685
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: But I'll do it for the next seven days because

686
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: I know once you start doing these things too, it

687
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: does get easier. And then there are points in my

688
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 2: life where sometimes I go, how did I not do this?

689
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: How did I not? Then you start to go, how

690
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: did I fall out of the habit? But we do

691
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: fall out of the habit, and again, you know, even

692
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 2: myself with all this knowledge and having, you know, having

693
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: this desire to be around for my kids and my

694
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: family and all this kind of stuff, I still drop off.

695
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: So for the next seven days, I'm going to wake

696
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: up in the morning and go straight to the gym.

697
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: I don't care what's on or not on. I'm just

698
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: going to go because once I'm there, I'll be moving

699
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: my body, feeling better.

700
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: I'm going to be your accountability partner. So every day

701
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: after you've been to the gym. You send me a

702
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: message and this is what I want. How long you

703
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: trained for and what you did? Just a snapshot. So

704
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: went to the gym, train my legs and whatever, train

705
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: my legs and core. I was there for forty minutes,

706
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 1: or I did twenty minutes on the treadmill incline walking

707
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: at six and a half and I did twenty minutes

708
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: of upper body weight. It's just a snapshot, and I

709
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: will respond every day. So I'll be your accountability partner

710
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: for the next seven days. You know what I think?

711
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: I think for that speaking to this, like you know

712
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: if you lived over the road for me in some

713
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: alternate reality and I said, hey, I want you to

714
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 1: train three days a week with me, because I train

715
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: every day, So pick three days that work for you.

716
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: There's no way that you wouldn't do that, right of course. Yeah,

717
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: so you go. Fuck I'm gonna train with Harps three days.

718
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 1: I go. You pick the day, you pick the time.

719
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I'll work around you. Now, barring some legit reason, there's

720
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: no day that you wouldn't turn up. So let's remove

721
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: me from the equation and just have that mindset. Do

722
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying like, it's the thing if

723
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: if I'm meeting you and I'm training you or helping

724
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: you or encouraging you, you don't want to let me down.

725
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 1: So you well, hey, Champ, don't let you down.

726
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's so true. When I lived in Adelaide,

727
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: there was a group of us. This is obviously pre

728
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: kids and stuff, but there was a group of us

729
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: that all trained together. Not all of us at once,

730
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 2: but we had training buddies, like I had my friend

731
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: Olgie Michelle, Like, we were all into fitness, and you know,

732
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: we would meet each other at the gym or for

733
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: this class, or to go for a run, or to

734
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: go to the park and just do a bit of

735
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: a workout, you know. You know, even back then we

736
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: were young and sort of you know, socializing. But even

737
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: the next day after you know, going out on Saturday

738
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: out and drinking. We would go to Mount Lofty on

739
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: a Sunday, didn't matter how long we're out for what

740
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: we did. We'd meet on a Sunday morning and we

741
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: would either run or walk Mount Lofty, like we just

742
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: these are the things we did. And I think when

743
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: you do have those people around you, I mean, as

744
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: you said, You shouldn't have to have that person. You

745
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: should be your own doing it for yourself. But if

746
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: you can have a group or a person keeping you accountable,

747
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: it definitely makes a difference. And there's no doubt that

748
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: I am not going to message you, you know, over

749
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: the next seven days. So that's exciting. I almost want

750
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: to get back on a podcast earlier so I can

751
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: be like, this is what happened, this is what didn't happen.

752
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: Let's just assume because right now I'm really optimistic that

753
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: that sounds easy. You know, I think that's what it is.

754
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: It needs to be something because we are busy, there's

755
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: so much going on. Some people are dealing with overwhelmed.

756
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: Some people have got emotional things in their lives. They're

757
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 2: looking after a parent or a child, or they've got

758
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: work stress, or they've got this. It just needs to

759
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: be something easy, and you know, just going getting up

760
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: and going to the gym. I'm not setting any expectations.

761
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm just going to go and do a bit of

762
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 2: a workout and then I'm going to let you know

763
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: what I did. I can do that.

764
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: Well, I've got a new plan. Melissa, who's Melissa, Who's

765
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: the boss, of me, as you well know, I'm mascarade

766
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: as the boss, but she's the boss. Now, remember we

767
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: delayed our podcast a week or two we did. Now

768
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: I think she told me to check in with you.

769
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: This is very terrible etiquette on a podcast, but fuck it, everybody,

770
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: let's pull back the curtain and see what happens. Really,

771
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: I think that she told me you and I have

772
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: another one on the eighth, which is two weeks from today.

773
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, there you go, let's stick with it. It should

774
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: be in my calendar. I'm going to look as we

775
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: are here, that is the first and I've got you

776
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: in on the eighth at Now.

777
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: I don't, well, so what time we'll do that off here?

778
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: But no, I do, I do. You're on the seventh,

779
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: You're on the seventh, Wednesday the seventh, at twelve pm.

780
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: We're on the same time, Queensland, Melbourne. So that is

781
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: so I'm going to be back to tell everyone and

782
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to do fourteen days listeners.

783
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we're going to do that. We're going to

784
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: well that's third end days from now, but whatever we're

785
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: going to we're going to do that. We're going to

786
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: check in and you know, you're right. I think the

787
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: it's pulling down the old buddy blind here. It's exciting

788
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: out there. But I mean the thing is, as I

789
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: said before, Yes, it is to be able to be

790
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: self motivated and do the work when no one's looking

791
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: or cheering. As is. It's very important at times, but

792
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: also because there are going to be times when no

793
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: one gives a fuck if you work out, or if

794
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: you're going great or not great. But I agree with you,

795
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: like if you can have a training partner, or a

796
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: walk buddy or a run buddy or whatever, or even

797
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: a personal trainer for some By the way, even though

798
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: I trained people for years and employed hundreds of trainers,

799
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a massive advocate. I'm not pro oraanti. I

800
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: think for some people a trainer is the right fit

801
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: and the right thing I think, but not for everyone.

802
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred trainer train I would love to have

803
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: a trainer. Tried to get my old trainer back. I've

804
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: talked about her in the early podcast. She's no longer

805
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: doing that. I've tried to convince her, but I stopped

806
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: with her. I think we might have discussed this even

807
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: on a podcast at a really silly time. It was

808
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: when I was dealing with caring for my dad, and

809
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: I felt like every training session I was just she

810
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: became for like a counselor, and then I started feeling guilty.

811
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just telling her all my problem.

812
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: This is not what I want to be doing. I

813
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: wasn't in a great space, probably when I needed to

814
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: train the most, and that's actually when I kind of

815
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: pulled back from a lot of the exercise when I

816
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: needed it more than ever. But the issue with me

817
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: and I've tried. I've got a gym and I spoke

818
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: to someone there. I can't commit to anything because you know,

819
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: in two weeks, I am around for two weeks, which

820
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: is fantastic, but then I'm away for a week. In June,

821
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 2: I'm in the UK and Europe for three weeks, and

822
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, I travel, you know, by the way, I

823
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 2: had the best time in New York in February. I'm

824
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 2: trying to think I have we delayed. I haven't spoken

825
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: to you, sinces. In February. I was a good girl,

826
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,479
Speaker 2: got off the plane, walked around Central Park in the morning.

827
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: I had my greens. I had no coffee. I'm a

828
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: massive coffee lover. I put all this stuff in place,

829
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: because I think we talked about it in the last podcast.

830
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: I had that what I now know possibly was a

831
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: panic attack in Jubai after doing five talks in two

832
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: days and coming from Saudi, and so the travels hitting

833
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: me a little bit harder. So I went to New

834
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: York and I actually gave myself a plan and I

835
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: stuck to that plan, and I felt phenomenal. And I

836
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: actually think I did one of the best talks I've

837
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: ever done. So this is one of the biggest integrative

838
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: medicine conferences ever IHS. So it's where I saw Dale Brettison,

839
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: who was the first person to show me in twenty

840
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: eighteen you could reverse Alzheimer's. I didn't even know. So

841
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: this is the best of the best, and I delivered.

842
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm actually without sounding conceded, because you know, when you

843
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: do a good job speaking. I had the room, I

844
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: felt it. I was in flow by the way I

845
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 2: took elphenene. If we want to talk about some supplements,

846
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: and I took twenty milligrams of creatine' sorry grams, twenty

847
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: grams of cretine. I've never taken that much preteen in

848
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: my life. Just before speaking to you because I was

849
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: feeling a bit flat and I've been listening to those podcasts.

850
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, when we talk about these things, you know,

851
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: the sleep, the exercise, taking care of ourselves. I went

852
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 2: to New York, massive flight, super nervous, and I did

853
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: such a good job and I felt fantastic. But I

854
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: did all the right things. You know. The night before

855
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: there was a speaker's dinner. I didn't drink alcohol because

856
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: I know it affects my sleep, even though there was

857
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: more than you know, I could want. Yeah, it went

858
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 2: really really well.

859
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah good, but myself. Do you know what I love?

860
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: I love that you are very down to earth. You

861
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: do not have a big ego, and I know that

862
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: would have been hard for you to say, but I'm

863
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: proud of you because like, I'm terrible at that. I

864
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: hate saying I'm good at it, even before when I

865
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: said for my age, I'm in not bad shape, but

866
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: I've always got to go. Oh, but by the way,

867
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: I don't have great genetics, and by the way, I'm mediocre,

868
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: and by the way, I've got to put in all

869
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: these disclaimers because I don't know. Maybe i'm but I

870
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes when you do this shit in Australia,

871
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: you can get pulled apart really quickly if people even

872
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: get a fucking hint that you're up yourself, right. Yeah,

873
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: So it's and it's a pity. It's a pity because

874
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, like sometimes like when you do something like

875
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: that where you know you did a good job, and

876
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: be times where you go that wasn't my best work.

877
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: But also you'll say that I've done gigs that were

878
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: two out of ten, and I've done gigs that were

879
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: for me a nine, a nine and a half, and

880
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: you come away but you don't want to say that

881
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: twenty one because so it's, yeah, that's a whole conversation itself,

882
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: isn't it.

883
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: I did a webinar a couple of weeks ago early

884
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: morning for the US, and it I mean, it wasn't bad,

885
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: but I knew it wasn't good. Like I actually thought

886
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: about saying to the people, can I just record this

887
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: again and send you a recording like it wasn't bad?

888
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: And sometimes you've just got to be okay with just okay.

889
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: But I didn't finish it going I'm a champion. I

890
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: finished it going okay. You got through, but you just

891
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: it felt hard and if it felt hard for me,

892
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: imagine what it is for the listener. So, as I said,

893
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: when I was in New York, though I was in

894
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: the moment you talk about flow state, like the energy

895
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: was amazing. It was just people were with me. It

896
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: was it was great. It was so good. That's what

897
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: That's why we do it, right, you just when you're

898
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: in those moments.

899
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds very self centered and egotistical, but

900
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: and you I don't do it for that reason, but

901
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: there are times when you are. You know, You've spoken

902
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: at my conference, the You Project Conference, and we have

903
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: about nearly seven hundred people in that room at Deacon

904
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: and we've done a bunch of those, and a couple

905
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: of times where I've done just me and no one else.

906
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: I've done a half day in that room, and one

907
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: in particular where I don't even know what was happening.

908
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: It was like I was fucking channeling someone much smarter

909
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: than me. Rights And at the end of it, at

910
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: the end of it, like everyone had gone, and there

911
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: was a whole lot of like people stayed, people wouldn't go,

912
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: and everyone wanted a hug or a photo or a

913
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: question answered or just a fucking because some magic shit happened.

914
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: It's like it happened despite me, not because of me.

915
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: And I know this sound cheezy, but it's like I

916
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: was a conduit to the experience, like I wasn't the

917
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: creator of it. It just kind of And and Melissa

918
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 1: came up after everyone had gone, and she doesn't swear generally,

919
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: and she goes to me, what the fuck was that?

920
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I go, I don't know, I don't know. She goes,

921
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: that was crazy, She goes, what was happening? Like I

922
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: looked around the room. At one stage we were just

923
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: having this moment, me and the audience. It was like

924
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: six hundred people. If you closed your eyes, you'd think

925
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: there was no one in the room, like complete connection.

926
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: And I looked around and I can't remember what I

927
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: was talking about, but I got a little bit emotional

928
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: talking about something. And I don't know how many, but

929
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: it looked like everyone in the room was crying. It

930
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: probably wasn't but half And there was just this magic

931
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: and it wasn't manufactured and it wasn't scripted, And yeah,

932
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: so well done, you well done? You did you did?

933
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: You get great feedback?

934
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Phenomenal. I got invited to probably what is the biggest

935
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: event in just They said, can you do the exact

936
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: same talk, which, by the way, I've never done the

937
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: exact same talk. Then I know you're corporate, so you

938
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: tend to have a gig. I get up and I

939
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: just always you know, new things a similar topic. But

940
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: I was told, can you just do that exact talk

941
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: at what's called a forum A five M is the

942
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 2: austrail a form, but that it's actually an anti aging

943
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: obviously they've moved on from anti aging. But I think

944
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: it has seven and a half thousand people. It's in

945
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: December in Vegas, but it brings in all the people

946
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: in the healthy aging space. So but yeah, you know,

947
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't always happen. You know, I didn't even call

948
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: it the flow state when it happened. It's when I've

949
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 2: got back. I've been talking to people about that and

950
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: it's made me realize and I think you are right.

951
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 2: There's a moment where we channel something and it's even

952
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: bigger than us. You know. It's that it's that calling.

953
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: I'm here to share a message, and because I was

954
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: feeling good, I was calmer than I expected. I wasn't

955
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: in my head, you know, when I'm in my head.

956
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: Like I just spoke at APP a few weeks ago,

957
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: which is a big pharmacy conference. Had seven a half

958
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: thousand people. Not that many people at my thing, but

959
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: it did go really well. I got grade feet. I

960
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: don't know if you've seen. I was on the news.

961
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: I got like four media gigs out of it. They

962
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: absolutely loved it. But I was very in my head.

963
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 2: I was very in my head, you know. So obviously

964
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: people liked it, but I wasn't in the flow state.

965
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't there just going I am sharing this with

966
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: you and connecting. I was, Yeah, I was a bit

967
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 2: bit too nervous. Sometimes your nerves ruin it for you

968
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 2: when it's so sad, because when I can let go

969
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: of that and be in the moment, it's actually like beautiful.

970
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 2: You're connecting. But sometimes you're in your head and yeah,

971
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: it's interesting just to observe all of that though, and

972
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 2: it comes back too, probably when I'm feeling at my best,

973
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: you know, the sleep and the exercise and the whole everything,

974
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: and even more reason for me to take such good

975
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: care of myself so that when I am trying to

976
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 2: do what I love doing sharing this information, I can

977
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: do it in a more enjoyable way, because when you

978
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 2: are tired and you are a bit stressed, then it's like,

979
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: oh my god, what did I just say?

980
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: Then?

981
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: And no one even cares if your stuff up? Anyway,

982
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: even in New York, it wasn't perfect. I was just

983
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: I didn't even I just felt good. I made jokes,

984
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: you know, even my my Australian humor, which sometimes does

985
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: not believe me. I've had some real like bombed out

986
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: terrible responses to my sarcastic you know way. But you

987
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: know I was making some jokes and had some humor

988
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: and everyone was laughing like yeah, anyway. I know.

989
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: Funny how sometimes our mind gets in the way when

990
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: you think like your mind is the gift, well yeah,

991
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: and sometimes your mind is the problem. Yeah, you know,

992
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: because you can over it. It's like people are often

993
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: surprised that I pretty much don't prepare for things, as

994
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: in sit there right notes that you know, I go,

995
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't There's nothing I need to learn between now

996
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 1: and tomorrow. There's like I'm not going to get new informat,

997
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: like yeah, so I would literally go into a like

998
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: next week. In fact, I'm coming to Coinsland next week.

999
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: But I did we're about Goldie, I think a bit

1000
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: far for me, but you know, but I've got Yeah,

1001
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: so a half day I've got to do Tuesday in

1002
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: Melbourne and a half day in on the Gold Coast

1003
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. But I literally take quite often I'll take

1004
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: one a four sheet of paper and I'll have twenty

1005
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: dot points on it, and sometimes it doesn't even come

1006
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: out of my pocket. But in terms of actual written

1007
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: notes slides video zero zero because for me, when it's

1008
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: scripted or choreographed or overly planned, it gets me out

1009
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: of flow and it stops me from building real rapport

1010
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: and reading the room and understanding in real time what's required.

1011
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: When I think I'm sixty one, I literally started talking

1012
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: about this stuff when I was eighteen. What the fuck

1013
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: am I going to learn by tomorrow? Like? Why should I?

1014
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: If I'm sitting with you, like right now, we just talk.

1015
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: It's not awkward, there's no painful gaps. It's not like,

1016
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: oh shit, what will we talk about? And then if

1017
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: somebody wants to meet with me and we have an

1018
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: hour and a coffee and a chat, there's no prep.

1019
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: There's like, let's just sit down and then for me,

1020
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: I just expand that to an audience and it's like, well,

1021
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the things I always talk about, except

1022
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: instead of you know, N equals one, it's N equals

1023
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: one hundred or one thousand. It doesn't matter.

1024
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: Is that why you don't come along to the gigs

1025
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 2: that I sometimes have recommended you for, like with app

1026
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: them in the Australian College of Nutrition Environmental Medicine. When

1027
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 2: I want you to come and talk to the doctors

1028
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: about exercise and you politely decline these requests.

1029
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: That's not true, Ask me, I would gladly come.

1030
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: I've given them your name and they let me know

1031
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 2: that you've declined.

1032
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: That's not true. I would never decline. You know where

1033
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: I spoke at the Royal Australian College of Surgeons and

1034
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: your conference. That was fucking interesting. Yeah, no, but one

1035
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: hundred per we'll talk about that.

1036
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: Off air, all right, All right, there's all these things

1037
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: that we're just we're just sharing everything. We are pulling

1038
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 2: back today having a chat. But it is nice. We

1039
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 2: never prepare and I think that the authenticity that comes

1040
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 2: across to is what helps connect. By the way, if

1041
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: anyone who is interested in methylation and all the stuff

1042
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: that Gary Breker talks about in this and that Craig

1043
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 2: and I are going to talk about it one day.

1044
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: We were going to talk about on the last last podcast,

1045
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: But one day we might talk about the topics we plan.

1046
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: Otherwise we just come in and but today I needed

1047
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: help everyone. So I appreciate the list for being on

1048
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 2: this journey with me and getting me back into the gym.

1049
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: And I hope that someone else is writing down what

1050
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: do you need to do for the next seven days

1051
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: and who can you reach out to to text? Is

1052
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 2: it your mum, auntie, cousin, neighbor, do the same thing,

1053
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: you know, check in in a couple of weeks and

1054
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: hopefully you're on this journey with me. You know, wouldn't

1055
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: that be amazing? Or coming along to what you're starting

1056
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: next week? Did you say next week you've got a thing? Yep.

1057
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: I think that group mentality makes a big difference. It's

1058
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: a really good starting point.

1059
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: We recently did a seven day kind of ended up

1060
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: being a fucking You know, when you have a little idea,

1061
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: I'll just do this thing, and you think this is

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Speaker 1: going to be a one, one or two out of

1063
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: ten effort, it ends up being a nine so.

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00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do those things all the time.

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00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: Oh god, I opened Pandora's box. But so anyway, I

1066
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: said on a podcast, I went, you know what, I'm

1067
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: going to do a because you know, we have, obviously,

1068
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: as do you, programs and products and services that people buy.

1069
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm just going to do seven days

1070
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: of coaching for anyone in the world who wants to

1071
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: be coached by me, free. And at the end, there's

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: no sales, there's nothing, there's no product, there's no program,

1073
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: there's no upsell on sale, there's nothing. And in fact,

1074
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to talk about any shit other

1075
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: than on the day. So I every day for seven

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00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: days I recorded a video which people could access. You

1077
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: can go and have a look now if you want. Everyone,

1078
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: and they're still all up there on the U project

1079
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: Facebook page. But every day I would give them about

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: twenty options of things that they could do, tasks either

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00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: cognitive or physical, or some kind of other challenge that

1082
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: they could do to get a little bit uncomfortable and

1083
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: do something hard, hard ish for seven days. And there

1084
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: was a bunch of options, and I thought, I we'll

1085
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: have you know, thirty or forty people to jump on.

1086
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: We ended up with like seven hundred people doing this thing,

1087
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: and yeah, it would just turned into a goliath, but

1088
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: it was amazing. It was amazing, And it's.

1089
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: That collective energy too. I think it's the collective energy

1090
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: everyone coming together supporting each other.

1091
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: And people had to like the kind of their commitment

1092
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: was do the work and then once you've done the work,

1093
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: come back to the page and go in, leave a

1094
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: comment and just say complete it. If you want to

1095
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: write more than that, cool, but when we see your

1096
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: name and your little face and completed, we know that

1097
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: you've done the work and this is a good way

1098
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: for you to come and check in, have some accountability,

1099
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: have a bit of process for the seven days. And

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00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like I thought, oh, it's not a particularly inspirational or

1101
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: new idea, but yeah, the amount of people that just

1102
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: loved that little bit of somebody else giving a fuck

1103
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: and somebody else caring and somebody else providing some kind

1104
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: of framework and accountability. Yeah, so maybe you and I'll

1105
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: do something one day and yes, like's seven days something

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00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: that you and I run for your people, my people.

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00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, would love to, would love to because this stuff,

1108
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: it's seven days, doesn't sound like a lot, but it

1109
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: can be life changing because then you stick with that

1110
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: habit and you know, sometimes it's two steps forward, one

1111
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: step back, But then you do it again, and then

1112
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: you know, in the first time it might be, well,

1113
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, stopping alcohol. The next time it

1114
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: might be I'm going to be exercising. The next one

1115
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: is you know, I'm going to go to bed an

1116
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: hour earlier. Every time you're adding in a small habit

1117
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: that actually makes a phenomenal difference to your overall health

1118
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 2: and well being. So my second question to you before,

1119
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 2: I didn't want to ask to it once, which is

1120
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: typically what I would do, and then it just you know,

1121
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: throws everything. So I've held on to it, trying to

1122
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: keep the listener engaged because I know my brain can

1123
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: go everywhere practically, so what I've been trying to do

1124
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 2: and it hasn't worked, but maybe you know it will now.

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Speaker 2: I mean, now I'm going to get up and go

1126
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: to the gym. But I do try to give myself

1127
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 2: a schedule because you know, I'm busy, so you know,

1128
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Speaker 2: whether it's seeing patients, I'm creating content, I've got meetings, podcasts,

1129
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: et cetera. Do you is that how you do things,

1130
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, do you are you just are you just

1131
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: going with the moment because you know how important is

1132
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: to go out and move and you've got a break

1133
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: or are you actually planning and you're like, at between

1134
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: two and three, I've got a break, so I'm going

1135
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: to go for a walk to the beach whatever. Do

1136
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 2: you have a schedule and then you have your non negotiables,

1137
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 2: like how do you do it?

1138
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's great question. So I'm there's a degree

1139
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: of structure and accountability and non negotiability and also some

1140
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: flexibility depending on what happens on the day so before

1141
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: So we started recording at two o'clock. It's now three

1142
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: oh three, and at one o'clock I decided I was

1143
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: going to walk and get a coffee, which I normally

1144
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: do about that time. And I looked at my steps

1145
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: and my steps were like three thousand for the day.

1146
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: My rock bottom is ten thousand. Usually I do thirteen

1147
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: to fifteen thousand. I had to ring, in fact, you know,

1148
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: I had to ring. I'm going to give her a

1149
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: shout out. Jackie Cooper, five time world champion aerial ski jumper,

1150
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: five time Olympian. So we'd been missing each other and

1151
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, so I need to get a coffee,

1152
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: I need to talk to Jackie, and I need to

1153
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: get in some steps. So I just walked I don't know,

1154
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: maybe five thousand steps in about fifty minutes, give or take.

1155
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: I had half an hour on the phone with Jackie,

1156
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: I got my coffee, and then I was back here

1157
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: to meet with you. So I'm very good at multitasking.

1158
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: And also another thing I've started doing is like, even

1159
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: if I'm microwaving my dinner and it's in there for

1160
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: five minutes, I will walk out the side gate and

1161
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: I will walk for five minutes. I'll go and do

1162
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: eight hundred meters just because I'd rather do that than

1163
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: sit on a chair in the kitchen. So yeah, I'm

1164
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: very efficient. But another thing that I do every morning

1165
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: is I essentially say to myself when I'm my little

1166
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: morning richell, I get up. I walk usually now for

1167
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so before I get to the cafe.

1168
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: So the cafe is only five minutes away, but I'll

1169
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: detour and I'll take a thirty minute version. Then I

1170
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: sit down. I don't look at anything, I don't scroll,

1171
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't look at social media. I sit down, I

1172
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: have a blank page on my phone in notes, and

1173
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: I go, all right, what do I need to do today?

1174
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: What's the shit that I need to do today? Before

1175
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: I get derailed with looking at other shit? What's the

1176
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: best use of my time and energy and focus today

1177
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: based on what I need to get done? And then

1178
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 1: I kind of set my to do list for the day. Then,

1179
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: like I know, for example, there's like I had Bobby

1180
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 1: podcast at eleven thirty, then I had you at two,

1181
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 1: and I'm meeting some people at the gym at five,

1182
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: so all those things that are set, but the rest

1183
01:00:57,840 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: of it I just kind of work around it.

1184
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like, hey, you said's a derailed, because

1185
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: often you can feel like days get derailed. And I

1186
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: had one of those days yesterday, and you know, some

1187
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: things came through that I thought were done in My

1188
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: assistant was like did it to do now? I was like,

1189
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: wasn't that done ages ago? And then all of a sudden,

1190
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, my goodness, well thisst needs to be

1191
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: addressed right now because blah blah blah. You know those things.

1192
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: I feel like those things happen a lot, But the

1193
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: reality is, it's life, whether it is a cyclone Alfred,

1194
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: or it's a child thing, or it's a work thing.

1195
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: I think I'm just you know, getting in and with

1196
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: the exercise and stuff like that too. I just have

1197
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: to know that every day there is potentially going to

1198
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: be something unexpected and that is life and be okay

1199
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: with it. And again it comes back to how good

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01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 2: you're feeling. Days that I'm great and I'm well rested

1201
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: and I've done some exercise, I'm in a good mood.

1202
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: I can when I'm on, I can deal with so much,

1203
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: but then when I'm not on, it can seem like

1204
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 2: such a task that just throws me. And in all honest,

1205
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 2: if I hadn't have canceled the last podcast, I would

1206
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 2: have messaged you today saying I don't know if I can.

1207
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: I was feeling so flat, But as I said, I

1208
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'm going to experiment. Thank

1209
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 2: god ive been okay on the podcast. This is real life,

1210
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: responding to more cretine than you've ever had in your life.

1211
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: But I was like, I'm feeling so flat, and you

1212
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 2: and I just usually get on and talk about whatever

1213
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: what happens if my brain doesn't work, like I just

1214
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 2: don't know what if I've got anything to give. Yeah,

1215
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I had the quarantine, I've had some

1216
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: LTH nine and then I was like, god, am I

1217
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: getting run down? I have some lipis, vitamin C, some

1218
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: B vitamins. So I just gave myself all these vitamins.

1219
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: Whether they've done anything or not. I have to say

1220
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: I do feel better, but I'd probably put most of

1221
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: that onto actually just connecting with you, Like, I'm actually

1222
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: really grateful for this podcast because I'm in such a

1223
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 2: better mood and I'm feeling good. I'm feeling like, you know,

1224
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: I can get up in the morning and go to

1225
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: the gym and I've connected with you and we've had

1226
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: a chat, and this is what this is who I

1227
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 2: want to be and what I want to do. So

1228
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 2: thank you.

1229
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you, and you definitely don't need to

1230
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: thank me, but I'll take it. Hey, how do we're

1231
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: going to see you in thirteen days in your new

1232
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,479
Speaker 1: and improved state? Yes? How do people? How do people

1233
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: find you and connect with you?

1234
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: Yes, you can find me. I have a website, Doctor

1235
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: Denise Furnace. There is a Facebook group, the Your Genes

1236
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 2: and Nutrition Community. There hasn't been a lot of action

1237
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: in there, but you know, do pop in and answer

1238
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 2: questions out every now and again, and of course check

1239
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: in at the You Project because I'm going to be

1240
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: back in a couple of weeks and hopefully on fire,

1241
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: telling you how great everything's been. Or we can list

1242
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 2: off my excuses and Craig can sort that shit out,

1243
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 2: sort that shit out.

1244
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: Oh that's hilarious. All right, appreciate you, have a good night,

1245
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: enjoy the gym tomorrow will bye. Everyone,