Speaker 1: Apoche production.
Speaker 2: He was a goofy dad, you know. He did all
Speaker 2: these little funny jokes and as a little kid, I
Speaker 2: thought they were hilarious.
Speaker 3: Linda Willeman and her husband Darren dropped her father John
Speaker 3: Jensen home on Sunday after a family lunch. They say
Speaker 3: he was in good spirits, but the sixty eight year
Speaker 3: old has disappeared without a trace.
Speaker 2: At no time as he indicated suicidal tendencies.
Speaker 4: That fall has never sat well with me, I'll be honest.
Speaker 5: Well, the discovery of John Jensen's car outside the Lancelon
Speaker 5: Beach Hotel is a big breakthrough in the police search
Speaker 5: for the missing ocean reef grandfather.
Speaker 2: Look, he did have a bit of depression and I
Speaker 2: put the light on and then I just saw blood. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all these blood footprints pretty much. She was very in
Speaker 2: your face then and there was there's quite a lot
Speaker 2: of and I was like, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 2: And I yelled out and I think he was murdered. No,
Speaker 2: I hand on my heart.
Speaker 4: I believe he was murdered because this is my dad,
Speaker 4: this is my story, this is what happened.
Speaker 1: Belle Wilma is John Jensen's youngest daughter, She is an
Speaker 1: older sister, and as you heard in the last episode,
Speaker 1: that relationship has become strained since the disappearance of their dad.
Speaker 1: On June twenty five, twenty seventeen, Belle's mother passed away
Speaker 1: from a heart attack in the family home, six years
Speaker 1: before the last moment they saw their dad. Belle was
Speaker 1: the first person to find a mum's body in the
Speaker 1: back room. Her dad, Jasper, continued to live in the
Speaker 1: family house until he went missing.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, he wasn't worried. That didn't again, it didn't.
Speaker 4: That's where he wanted to be, you know.
Speaker 2: That was that was our family home, and we still
Speaker 2: had had fond memories and.
Speaker 4: And what happened was just, you know.
Speaker 2: A tragic It was a tragic situation, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: obviously caused by anyone else. It was it was obviously
Speaker 2: meant to happen. It's no one else was involved. And
Speaker 2: the only thing I struggled the most sort of going
Speaker 2: in that back room, but actually going to the house.
Speaker 4: Didn't bother me at all. You know.
Speaker 2: It taught me a few months to sort of get
Speaker 2: myself okay, just just do it, you know, because I
Speaker 2: everyone went in there, I just kept saying, Mum, you
Speaker 2: know the images images there. But you know I got
Speaker 2: over that fairly quickly, and.
Speaker 1: Jessper had adapted to life without his wife. Across the
Speaker 1: six years since she passed, he'd started to play golf
Speaker 1: and hang out with his friends. He had a small
Speaker 1: but close group of friends because he was a bit
Speaker 1: of a quiet guy. He enjoyed staying at home watching
Speaker 1: Kelly in the front room of the ocean roof house
Speaker 1: that they lived in. Across the period of years, Jawn's
Speaker 1: health started to suffer. He developed a few medical issues,
Speaker 1: which made it harder for him to pursue his love
Speaker 1: of golf. It came to a head in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: when he went to his GP for some medical issues.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing that we were trying to get on
Speaker 2: top of with his peripheral ropathy, and that was basically
Speaker 2: nerve damage or nerve pain in his feet. I mean,
Speaker 2: being a laborer, he had back, you know, back problems.
Speaker 2: But that's fairly fairly common, you know, that brick labor
Speaker 2: of all his life.
Speaker 4: But you know, the recent thing that had come.
Speaker 2: Up around them was you know, we couldn't couldn't figure
Speaker 2: out whys for his feet were spelling and things like that.
Speaker 2: So we're trying to get on top of the neuropathy pain.
Speaker 2: So I was the one that actually took him to
Speaker 2: a pain management specialist to try and look at other
Speaker 2: ways of you know, instead of you know, hard medication
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and you know that the sort
Speaker 2: of stuff to be in mind. So yeah, that that's
Speaker 2: sort of why I took him there.
Speaker 1: And so in the Corners report, which which was obviously
Speaker 1: had a look at, it was mentioned he saw a
Speaker 1: pain specialist, which is I'm guessing the pain specialists you
Speaker 1: took him to correct His pain was a nine out
Speaker 1: of ten normally, and when the medication wore off, it
Speaker 1: was a one out of ten. So this pain medication
Speaker 1: he was taken was was pretty useful for his pain.
Speaker 2: It was absolutely, absolutely one hundred percent. And yeah, the
Speaker 2: other issues were sort of flare up.
Speaker 4: It wasn't all the time.
Speaker 2: You know, it was something that he could, you know,
Speaker 2: we could manage, and he, like you know with other
Speaker 2: my husbands at chronic fatigue, you know, he's been able
Speaker 2: to manage, you know, his go through ups and lows
Speaker 2: and what have you. And Dad was able to do
Speaker 2: the same thing. Yeah, we were just getting we were
Speaker 2: getting on top of it. That's fairly normal for any
Speaker 2: sixty odd year old.
Speaker 1: What sort of drugs was your dad on for his
Speaker 1: chronic back pain.
Speaker 4: He morphine patches and that worked. That worked really well.
Speaker 2: Obviously, they just played around with the dosage just to
Speaker 2: get the dosage right. So yeah, the morphine patches worked
Speaker 2: really well. That didn't help the neuropathy pain. So we were, yeah,
Speaker 2: just looking at at what other options there were because
Speaker 2: he was eventually put on this horrendous drug which should
Speaker 2: not be prescribed to anyone, and especially people you know,
Speaker 2: in his condition, and with the other drugs that he
Speaker 2: was on, I think it was it was the wrong move.
Speaker 2: But he was put on this, this particular drug, and
Speaker 2: that was the drug which did make him feel really crappy,
Speaker 2: you know, and it had it had side effects, but
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 4: Not aware of the side effects.
Speaker 2: We were having regular appointments to keep on top of it,
Speaker 2: and you know, and realized, no, we need to win
Speaker 2: off this particular medication.
Speaker 4: And that's what exactly what.
Speaker 2: Happened, was that the oxyco no I no, that was
Speaker 2: actually the neuronton that I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: The obviously codin' again. You know, it was sort of
Speaker 4: pushed on to him in a little way.
Speaker 2: There was someone else in his life that was sort
Speaker 2: of saying, here, yeah, this is a good option. It's
Speaker 2: really good for paying medication. And I was the one going,
Speaker 2: but this is really strong medication. You know, I'd actually
Speaker 2: had that when I had had a cesarean, and I
Speaker 2: was like, Dad, this is pretty strong stuff. And you know,
Speaker 2: he quickly realized, well, that's it's not actually helping him,
Speaker 2: and you know, not a lot. He was a doctor saying,
Speaker 2: you know, take this sparingly, and he was taking it sparely.
Speaker 2: I remember Dad going me towards you and you know,
Speaker 2: I've got so much.
Speaker 4: I'm not not taking meny at all.
Speaker 2: Like he had thirty sitting there and he goes the
Speaker 2: doctor's like, well, do you need anymore?
Speaker 4: And he goes, no, I've still got like thirty there.
Speaker 2: So the doctor he wasn't taking you know, he'd gotten
Speaker 2: on top of that that that was not the issue.
Speaker 1: And so he was also an antidepressant, but he stopped
Speaker 1: pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he was put on a couple of different
Speaker 2: anti presents, but for different reasons. First of all, it
Speaker 2: was to use as a nerve blocker, so it wasn't
Speaker 2: actually for depression. There's various types of anti presentants that
Speaker 2: are not necessarily for depression. It's spent for nerve problems.
Speaker 2: And he was trialed I think one or two different
Speaker 2: ones which they just didn't sit well in a diarrhea
Speaker 2: and vomiting and so you know, he sees those quite quickly.
Speaker 4: So that's why he sees those.
Speaker 2: And I guess around this period, which was about a
Speaker 2: couple of months period, so we're talking late twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: sort of you know, December, which was when they were
Speaker 2: really trying to figure out, you know, we get his
Speaker 2: medications right.
Speaker 4: But again that's fairly normal. I look at his GP records.
Speaker 2: They were doing the right thing, seeing him fortnightly going on,
Speaker 2: we've got to just this this, and it was going, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's feeling better, and you know, we're getting.
Speaker 4: On top of it.
Speaker 2: It was a brief period of time that has been
Speaker 2: made out to be for twelve months.
Speaker 4: It wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was you know, one or two months. They're like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know Saw, and new Doc dur Any goes, well,
Speaker 2: let's get off, isn't it ront And that was the
Speaker 2: first thing they had to do.
Speaker 4: Well, started weaning him off.
Speaker 2: So you know, over that January through to up until May,
Speaker 2: he was fully weaned off this medication.
Speaker 4: And you have to wean it. You can't just take
Speaker 4: it off.
Speaker 1: What is that medication?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 2: And what is It's neuron or gabba penton. It's supposed
Speaker 2: to reduce the swelling in your fee tour and I
Speaker 2: think for memory it sort of did help the pain.
Speaker 2: But you know, it had horrible slide effects. So it's
Speaker 2: a drug that I don't think he should ever have
Speaker 2: been put on. And it was, you know, very important
Speaker 2: for him to went off. And once he was off it,
Speaker 2: you could tell. You could tell he was sort of
Speaker 2: clear of mind. And because it was a strong character,
Speaker 2: even though the pain came back, that wasn't an issue.
Speaker 2: I mean, this man was a strong, strong man. You
Speaker 2: know a bit of pain, you know he was going
Speaker 2: to you know what I mean is it's sort of
Speaker 2: getting on top of it.
Speaker 4: He wasn't giving up.
Speaker 2: It was just aware of just trying to get these
Speaker 2: who tried and what.
Speaker 1: Were the side effects that were horrible for him.
Speaker 2: Look, he did have it did cause a bit of depression,
Speaker 2: but he was aware of the depression and he spoke
Speaker 2: to us about it. So you know, he'd actually reached
Speaker 2: out a couple of times to his close.
Speaker 4: Mate, and I commend him for that. Good on you.
Speaker 2: You know, we need to all speak up if we're
Speaker 2: not feeling one hundred percent, you know. But it was
Speaker 2: just and that's where he wasn't just sitting in the
Speaker 2: corner going and I'm giving up on life. He's breaching out,
Speaker 2: you know. And it said to his mate, you know,
Speaker 2: he goes, I'm obviously feeling pretty crappy right now. He
Speaker 2: goes even in his own words, and I've got him
Speaker 2: writing lucky, I'm not the suicidal type, and I've got
Speaker 2: time on my side.
Speaker 1: So Belle says her dad knew the GABA Pensen or
Speaker 1: Neuronson was no good for him, and it gave him
Speaker 1: horrible side effects. I wanted to know from a doctor
Speaker 1: what this drug is actually used for, so I reached
Speaker 1: out to a friend. It's call him Doctor J. He
Speaker 1: specializes in pain medication and he'd know clinically how this
Speaker 1: drug can affect someone.
Speaker 7: So Doctor for lost count eleven years now, and as
Speaker 7: part of that time, I've spent five years training to
Speaker 7: be an anesthetics specialist, and as part of my anesthetic training,
Speaker 7: we do specialize in the management of acute pain.
Speaker 1: Can you explain what neurontity is and what it's generally
Speaker 1: prescribed for.
Speaker 7: So, neurons in the trade name of a medication called gabapentin,
Speaker 7: So it's an anticonvulsant medication that's used to treat various
Speaker 7: forms of epilepsy and other seizure disorders. But it's also
Speaker 7: prescribed for what we call neuropathic pain. So that's essentially
Speaker 7: pain arising from an dysfunctional disease of the nervous system.
Speaker 7: So some examples of that are sort of diabetic neuropathy,
Speaker 7: or pain that you get after having I guess postopadic neuralgia,
Speaker 7: which is like shingles, and people get ongoing chmic pain
Speaker 7: from that, and gabapentin can be used to try and
Speaker 7: treat these pains. This nerve pain is quite notoriously difficult
Speaker 7: to treat, and so often there are various other medications
Speaker 7: that doctors try and use to treat this pain, and they're.
Speaker 6: Not always effective.
Speaker 7: So gabapentin is one of them that gets used, especially
Speaker 7: in the treatment of sort of back pain or sciatica,
Speaker 7: and then obviously they try and use opioids to try
Speaker 7: and treat pain, but generally these are also quite ineffective.
Speaker 1: And from your knowledge, what are some of the side
Speaker 1: effects involved with taking gabapentin.
Speaker 7: With any medication, and some of those side effects are
Speaker 7: common and some are quite rare. If we think specifically
Speaker 7: about the nervous system. The common things that get described
Speaker 7: with gabapentin or neuronton business headache, somnolence, but they can
Speaker 7: have other side effects like tremor and even concentration impairments.
Speaker 7: With these medications, you can get some mood disturbances, so
Speaker 7: common things. Common side effects cover pension include anxiety, confusion,
Speaker 7: and depression. You can get insomnia, and then uncommonly or
Speaker 7: rarely you can have emotional labile symptoms or agitation, aggression,
Speaker 7: and very rarely psychotic disorders as well. Neurons also has
Speaker 7: been recognized that it can contribute to feelings of depression
Speaker 7: and suicidal idiation. It's even mentioned in the product disclosure
Speaker 7: statement or the product information statement that comes inside the
Speaker 7: box and a statement in there that says patients on
Speaker 7: these medications need to be monitored, worth need symptoms of
Speaker 7: depression or suicidal thoughtful behavior, or any other unusual changes
Speaker 7: in them moves.
Speaker 1: The other interesting thing that came up after speaking with
Speaker 1: doctor j was a bit that I originally missed in
Speaker 1: my read through of the coroner's report. The report said
Speaker 1: that on May eleventh, twenty seventeen, just six weeks before
Speaker 1: Jawn went missing, he went to a chemist and got
Speaker 1: a prescription filled for one hundred Neuronson tablets. In a
Speaker 1: follow up text with Belle, she says there was no
Speaker 1: way he used those tablets. As she said earlier in
Speaker 1: the podcast, he was weaning off this drug that was
Speaker 1: giving him depression. When police and family searched his home,
Speaker 1: there was no neuronton left in his pillbox. Doctor Jay
Speaker 1: explains that coming off a drug like neuronton is usually
Speaker 1: a slow process, and coming off the drug too quickly
Speaker 1: can be even more troublesome.
Speaker 7: So any patient's been on these medications for a significant
Speaker 7: in it a period of time, they can get physical dependence,
Speaker 7: whereas the body gets used to the drug, and upon
Speaker 7: sort of immediate cessation, they get withdrawal symptoms. And withdrawal
Speaker 7: symptoms tend to be some of the things we've mentioned,
Speaker 7: but also dysphoria, irritability, anxiety, even backape, joint pains, abdominal cramps, LAWNSA, vomiting.
Speaker 6: The period of withdrawal, all the time taken from stopping
Speaker 6: the medication to having those withraw withdrawal symptoms does depend
Speaker 6: on the dose that you've been on and how long
Speaker 6: you've been it's.
Speaker 7: Been on the medication for, but can vary between sort
Speaker 7: of you know, a day to a week or so.
Speaker 7: When you are going to stop these medications best done
Speaker 7: with the assistance or the physician that prescribes the drugs
Speaker 7: regularly so that they can guide you in dose reduction,
Speaker 7: and usually that's done over a period of weeks to months,
Speaker 7: even depending on how long you've been on the medication
Speaker 7: and how the dose he's been taken.
Speaker 1: So we know that this drug is pretty heavy and
Speaker 1: as Belle said, she didn't feel it was right for
Speaker 1: her dad. This correlates with the doctor's notes about Jawn's
Speaker 1: visit he made to his GP in January, February and
Speaker 1: March of twenty seventeen. In January twenty seventeen, which is
Speaker 1: the year he went missing, he went to his GP.
Speaker 1: As you've mentioned, quite depressed. The coroner's report says that
Speaker 1: his consequent visit back to the GP a month later
Speaker 1: and then again the following month was, in his words
Speaker 1: from the doctor's notes, really good now and fantastic. So
Speaker 1: there is proof your dad was suffering some depression in
Speaker 1: early January and then was able to come out of
Speaker 1: that fog due to the medication he was coming off
Speaker 1: and equally his own management of that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I mean, can I just read you a
Speaker 2: little bit of an.
Speaker 4: Excerpt here from the incident summary.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was quite interesting, and this was
Speaker 2: noted pretty much on the twenty eighth of June. So
Speaker 2: this is the second day of the search up in Lancelin. Confirmed,
Speaker 2: as you said, confirmed no signs of dementia. Cided by
Speaker 2: the doctor last week and was very clear in the head,
Speaker 2: appeared chirpy, you know, and had good pain control. He
Speaker 2: commented that he's not suffering from debtsive depression, and during
Speaker 2: his treatment at no time as he indicated suicidal tendencies.
Speaker 4: That's from the GP.
Speaker 1: We're going to step just a couple of months back
Speaker 1: to before your dad went missing. He fell down some stairs.
Speaker 2: Look, that's a weird one, that fall has never sat
Speaker 2: well with me, I'll be honest. That was actually what
Speaker 2: sort of set him back, and that at the time
Speaker 2: of his disappearance, it wasn't all the other stuff that
Speaker 2: was going on, was that fall, because that was a
Speaker 2: pretty years ful.
Speaker 4: When I say fall, I have I have doubts over
Speaker 4: that particular day.
Speaker 2: It was Easter Sunday, and you know, Dad had already
Speaker 2: had had a fall from lower down in these stairs
Speaker 2: because he's got brick stairs at the front of his house.
Speaker 4: Now, I can't remember when.
Speaker 2: It was, probably I don't know, December twenty sixteen or something.
Speaker 2: He had actually had a little slip from the bottom
Speaker 2: of the stairs.
Speaker 4: It was only you know, two stairs.
Speaker 2: Because at the time, unfortunately, someone thought it would be
Speaker 2: a good idea for him to trial marijuana and you know,
Speaker 2: encourage that and provided that to him. And at first
Speaker 2: I meet at it and he had a fault.
Speaker 1: Was that medical marijuana or was it just normal?
Speaker 4: No, And it's something that he'd never had in his life.
Speaker 2: And I don't think he should have ever been introduced
Speaker 2: into into the mix at all. But I think that
Speaker 2: was the cause of that particular fall, and he felt
Speaker 2: like an idiot, you know, he's like, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: but it didn't really has stained too many injuries, okay.
Speaker 4: But this particular fall, it was pretty substantial.
Speaker 2: I'm talking it was from the top this time, the
Speaker 2: top of these brick stairs. And apparently it's written down
Speaker 2: that he just slipped on his slippers, and it's been
Speaker 2: a bit downplayed a little bit. But you know, I
Speaker 2: look at his photos of his injuries and I don't know,
Speaker 2: like if he was wearing slippers. You know, his toe
Speaker 2: has been fully sliced and cut open, and he's got
Speaker 2: a massive egg on his right hand arm and up
Speaker 2: here and apparently he's put his arm down your hand
Speaker 2: to protect his face, and you know, his hands you know,
Speaker 2: shattered and broken his wrist, and I mean they only
Speaker 2: realized in June, not long before he went missing, that
Speaker 2: that he had actually shattered all the bones in his
Speaker 2: hand as well, and that wasn't picked up at the time,
Speaker 2: you know, and he was told unfortunately now it's sort
Speaker 2: of too light for more surgery.
Speaker 4: You probably do need more surgery down the track.
Speaker 8: But well, thinking about it now, we don't know if
Speaker 8: that was a fall or not, or if something else
Speaker 8: happened on that day, but we don't have any evidence
Speaker 8: of anything, but we have doubts over that one. But
Speaker 8: as Well said, that was really his main problem at
Speaker 8: the time because it had got ontop other things. It
Speaker 8: was just this badly broken wrist.
Speaker 2: Was that that was in April. That was you know,
Speaker 2: middle of April, and before that March. You know how
Speaker 2: we said the GPS, he's feeling fantastic. Dad had tried
Speaker 2: to go play nine holes of golf.
Speaker 1: Jawn wasn't a well man chronic pain, swollen feet and
Speaker 1: a broken wrist, with a bunch of different tablets to
Speaker 1: control those medical issues. He had indicated some issues with
Speaker 1: depression which may have been caused by the medication he
Speaker 1: was on, or simply by him not being as agile
Speaker 1: as he used to be. But it would seem from
Speaker 1: the doctor's report a few days before his disappearance he
Speaker 1: was okay. In fact, in the GP's words, he was chirpy.
Speaker 1: In the coroner's report, which was delivered in October last
Speaker 1: year in Perth, the coroner stated that Belle, his daughter,
Speaker 1: had said that at some point her dad had told
Speaker 1: her that drowning would be the worst possible way to go.
Speaker 1: Belle also made a statement to the police, saying that
Speaker 1: if there was any chance of mister Jensen taking his life,
Speaker 1: he would have done so at Mula Lou Beach, a
Speaker 1: place of great comfort to him, where he felt closest
Speaker 1: to his wife. When Bell gave evidence during the inquest,
Speaker 1: she was adamant that at the time of his disappearance,
Speaker 1: her dad was not suicidal.
Speaker 4: See my words have been twisted. Okay, So around the time.
Speaker 1: Of the search, did you have that conversation with him?
Speaker 4: I didn't have around drowning. We were open about life
Speaker 4: and death.
Speaker 2: Having found my mum, you know, in the home, we
Speaker 2: did have conversations about that. But our conversations were, oh
Speaker 2: my god, thank god she was at home.
Speaker 4: Thank god.
Speaker 2: We literally said she wasn't missing because we had that
Speaker 2: twenty four hour PIO where she technically was.
Speaker 1: They all talk to me about the morning of Sunday,
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth of June twenty seventeen, you were going
Speaker 1: to lunch as a family.
Speaker 4: Well, actually no, it wasn't actually sort of planned like that.
Speaker 2: I knew that Dad was catching up with Kennan Geza,
Speaker 2: and normally I was actually the one that used to
Speaker 2: go with lunch to lunch with him. I'd take him,
Speaker 2: and i'd We've done that at quite a few times.
Speaker 2: This particular time, I was really busy, as I said,
Speaker 2: we work, and I was working from home, and you know,
Speaker 2: i'd actually just dropped the kids down at Grandma's house
Speaker 2: down in Clement and yeah, just before twelve, I remember,
Speaker 2: because they'd had lunch booked in for sort.
Speaker 4: Of one or one thirty I think it was.
Speaker 2: And I just rang him on the way home and
Speaker 2: I just said, I'm making sure my sister's still taking you,
Speaker 2: because she did have a bit of a history of
Speaker 2: sort of canceling on him last minute, and if that
Speaker 2: was a case, then I was definitely gonna, you know,
Speaker 2: sort of step.
Speaker 4: In and take him. And it just han't been that conversation.
Speaker 2: I was a bitty why don't you come, you know,
Speaker 2: And I'm you know, I'm so glad I made that
Speaker 2: decisional and you know what, Yeah, yeah, I'll come.
Speaker 4: I'm glad I did because that was the last time
Speaker 4: I saw him.
Speaker 1: So Belle, her sister, dad, and a few friends catch
Speaker 1: up for lunch at Hillary's Boat Harbor at Dome Cafe.
Speaker 1: It's Perth in June. The place is buzzing family's doing
Speaker 1: the same thing as Bell and her sister visitors, browsing
Speaker 1: the shops on the boardwalk, kids with ice creams and
Speaker 1: idyllic Sunday afternoon in sunny Perth. Belle clearly remembers her
Speaker 1: dad's frame of mind that day.
Speaker 4: He was happy.
Speaker 2: Everything was fine, like he was in good spirits. There
Speaker 2: was there was nothing that stood out as me to
Speaker 2: be concerned or worried, you know, it was it was
Speaker 2: a nice lunch.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: The only thing I regret is, you know, when we
Speaker 2: when we got home, we all went in the same car,
Speaker 2: and you know, my sister took us home. The only
Speaker 2: regret I had is not actually going in, you know,
Speaker 2: because I pretty much we drove off straight away in
Speaker 2: our separate cars, and i'd sort of gone in and
Speaker 2: and I guess spoken to him because in hindsight now
Speaker 2: I realized that there probably were things that he did
Speaker 2: want to talk about. But no, on that particular he
Speaker 2: was fine. And even Kennan geez I said, you know,
Speaker 2: we're talking about catching up for Christmas in July again,
Speaker 2: because I'd gone, you know, with all those guys and
Speaker 2: we'd had a beautiful lunch, you know. The previous Christmas
Speaker 2: in July, and we said, let's do that again. You know,
Speaker 2: we had plans for the future.
Speaker 1: So this is Sunday afternoon. When did you expect to
Speaker 1: see your dad again?
Speaker 2: Probably the next night or within a couple of days,
Speaker 2: you know, I was, I was, you know, seeing him regularly.
Speaker 4: Not not as much.
Speaker 2: I mean I have a young family and working hard,
Speaker 2: but certainly within a couple of days, you know, I'd
Speaker 2: at least speak to him, like very regularly, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I certainly did not expect that. The last
Speaker 2: time I didn't but see my dad.
Speaker 1: That afternoon would be the last time. Anybody reported seeing
Speaker 1: John again. The next morning, at around six forty five am,
Speaker 1: John Jensen's neighbor headed out to her car to go
Speaker 1: to work on Monday, the twenty sixth of June twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: As she walks down her driveway, she looks across the
Speaker 1: road and sees that Jawn's garage door is open and
Speaker 1: his car is not there. She found this unusual, and
Speaker 1: she hadn't seen John drive for a few weeks, but
Speaker 1: she also knew his daughters sometimes drove his car, so
Speaker 1: she left for work at four point fifteen that same day,
Speaker 1: the neighbor arrives home and Jahn's car is still missing
Speaker 1: and the garage door is still wide open. She now
Speaker 1: thinks this is strange, but she didn't want to be
Speaker 1: a sticky beak, so she waited a few hours, and
Speaker 1: then at seven oh two that night, Belle receives a
Speaker 1: ten from her sister. Belle's sister, who first got the
Speaker 1: text from the neighbor, had been at the dentist that
Speaker 1: day for surgery, so I couldn't really talk, so she
Speaker 1: texted her sister Bell and asked if she could head
Speaker 1: to their dad's house to see what was happening.
Speaker 2: I didn't know anything was wrong until about eight thirty
Speaker 2: that night. I saw a text message from my sisters saying,
Speaker 2: can you go check on dad? You know, the neighbor's
Speaker 2: saying that the his garage door has been up and
Speaker 2: his car's gone. And I was like what, So I
Speaker 2: immediately called his house.
Speaker 4: I'm obviously got no answer.
Speaker 2: And I looked down and gone, is this gonna happen
Speaker 2: all over again? Immediately having gone through it with Mum,
Speaker 2: you think the worst, of course.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I was panicking.
Speaker 2: I was I was shaking and I'm like, no, I'm
Speaker 2: going to do this, and I'm trying to tell myself
Speaker 2: how it better than last time? Felt I'm so angry
Speaker 2: at myself for what I did with mom, and I
Speaker 2: was like, just handle this situation better.
Speaker 4: But anyway, I was. I was lucky that the neighbor
Speaker 4: was out the front.
Speaker 2: She was loving, you know, and obviously very caring and
Speaker 2: looking after him, and she was worried, you know. She
Speaker 2: was out the front looking stressed, and she met me
Speaker 2: there and I said, were you coming with me? So
Speaker 2: so I found my mum dead, you know, and she goes,
Speaker 2: of course, we're not. I'm so grateful she did that.
Speaker 2: So I went and got the key because he kept
Speaker 2: to get spare key in the garage.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I went to use it to walk in the house,
Speaker 2: but the door was unlocked, and that was very unusual.
Speaker 2: That always kept his door locked. So I thought, well, hey,
Speaker 2: that's unusual. And second thing that unusual that there was
Speaker 2: no lights on. You know, we're talking sort of eight
Speaker 2: forty probably around that time, and it was pitch black.
Speaker 4: I thought, what's going on here? Because even the neighbor
Speaker 4: would say he always had that front light on because
Speaker 4: that's where he lived that front land room. That's that's
Speaker 4: pretty much where he lived, in his recliner and watching
Speaker 4: your TV. So anyway, yeah, walked in and.
Speaker 2: What looked like, initially this sounds odd, but sort of
Speaker 2: feathers scattered in the distance in the kitchen area.
Speaker 4: And I was like, what's going on over there? And
Speaker 4: I put the light on and then I just saw blood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all these blood footprints pretty much what it was
Speaker 2: very in your face then, and there was there was
Speaker 2: quite a lot of blood, and I was like, what the.
Speaker 4: Hell has happened here?
Speaker 2: And I yelled out, and the neighbor yelled out, and
Speaker 2: I noticed it with a small glass pane was broken.
Speaker 2: And at the time, I'm like, oh my god, has
Speaker 2: he accidentally hurt himself. He's got a hospital, he's got
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell has happened?
Speaker 4: I did not know.
Speaker 2: Million things from through your head, and I didn't want
Speaker 2: to make the same mistakes again. It's caught my husband.
Speaker 2: That was I just had to That was just the
Speaker 2: first thing I thought to do. And then he called
Speaker 2: the police. So yeah, we just waited for them to arrive,
Speaker 2: and it was, Yeah, it was really really bizarre, really
Speaker 2: really really Bizarren.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the call from Bell?
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, when she left, you knew something that was up.
Speaker 8: It was unusual for Jessmer's card not to be there.
Speaker 8: And then soon as I got the call and I
Speaker 8: just heard blood everywhere, I didn't know if something had
Speaker 8: recently happened, or if someone was still in the house
Speaker 8: and something could happen. So I just got off the
Speaker 8: phone straight away and called the police and just gave
Speaker 8: him a brief description, file in law's missing, this blood
Speaker 8: in the house. I don't know if anyone else is
Speaker 8: in the house. I didn't know if my wife was
Speaker 8: in danger or anything like that. So that's what I
Speaker 8: told them, and they raced over there. As it turns out,
Speaker 8: it was just the scene at the house and no
Speaker 8: one else there. But then, yeah, it's this was totally unexpected.
Speaker 1: In the next episode of Dad's Gone.
Speaker 5: Well, the discovery of John Jensen's car outside the Lancelon
Speaker 5: Beach Hotel is a big breakthrough in the police search
Speaker 5: for the missing Ocean Reef grants.
Speaker 9: The investigation in those early days changed the thin as
Speaker 9: that vehicle is located, because that what they gave us
Speaker 9: was the last known position on this CCTVA. If you
Speaker 9: can't see who is in the vehicle.
Speaker 1: In your opinion, could your dad drive?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, especially especially after that form no.
Speaker 9: I was unable to confirm during the investigation who was
Speaker 9: driving that vehicle or even how many passengers in that
Speaker 9: The initial assessment of the investigation that continues to this
Speaker 9: day is that no evidence of any criminality has been located.
Speaker 2: Silence is not what you need when you have this
Speaker 2: type of ambiguous loss. You need people to speak up
Speaker 2: and there are people that know what happened to my dad.
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