Speaker 1: Apodjaye Production.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Mad Mom?
Speaker 1: Podcast? Term four?
Speaker 3: Is it? Yes? I was getting coffee the other day
Speaker 3: and I had a lovely lady say.
Speaker 4: To me, oh, only twelve weeks till Christmas?
Speaker 5: And I was like, what can you please refrain from that?
Speaker 2: I've done absolutely nothing. I've not even done anything towards
Speaker 2: the birthday.
Speaker 3: I was just going to say that you've got Christmas
Speaker 3: and birthday.
Speaker 2: Here's a question I used to post to buy something
Speaker 2: special for sweet sixteen?
Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Or is that just American?
Speaker 3: As in you're asking me if you have to buy
Speaker 3: something sweet sixteen, big present.
Speaker 1: Like something to keep, like a piece of or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's americanized. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't trying to think back to my sixteenth It
Speaker 3: was only the other day.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't think I got something. And maybe it was
Speaker 3: jewelry or something like that.
Speaker 2: Can't be very memorable stories to remember, No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Because also you get your learners at sixteen, and then
Speaker 2: there's driving lessons, my driving lessons and something sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1: Itsh's a lot expensive driving.
Speaker 5: Lessons how much are they these?
Speaker 1: Like eighty dollars a lesson for how long? I don't know,
Speaker 1: just for an hour, maybe.
Speaker 5: Eighty dollars for half an hour.
Speaker 4: That's a great I might become a driver shucked.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine I didn't even want to have my
Speaker 2: own kids in my car? Then how to drive alone
Speaker 2: someone every single day?
Speaker 1: Imagine that? Don't you reckon?
Speaker 2: Driving instructors would be really anxious, nervous people.
Speaker 5: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: I think they'd be the I think they'd be the
Speaker 3: complete opposite. In my opinion, I think they'd be complete opposite.
Speaker 3: I think they'd be those.
Speaker 4: Really like calm, calm.
Speaker 3: Collected, but know it alls on the road, you know,
Speaker 3: know everything everything you can think of by the book.
Speaker 2: And the difference between my girls going with a driving
Speaker 2: instructor who knows everything about driving and me teaching the
Speaker 2: girls to drive is that they'll sit in the driving
Speaker 2: seat knowing that I've driven since I was seventeen, and
Speaker 2: they'll know all about it.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know nothing.
Speaker 3: You don't actually know how to drive car, just pretending
Speaker 3: this whole time. Why you're driving them around to and
Speaker 3: from everything that they do.
Speaker 5: I've got no idea.
Speaker 1: You're so millennial. That's what I get hit with. You're
Speaker 1: so millennial.
Speaker 5: Okay, calm down.
Speaker 3: Am I a bad mum for starving them?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Can we just hang on for a secon before you
Speaker 2: start on this, If we just think about Rachel Thirday
Speaker 2: and her parenting style. The other day, you did an
Speaker 2: episode where you take your kids to the beach and
Speaker 2: you didn't take sunscreen, so you got no sunscreen, no food.
Speaker 3: I re listened to that episode and I was driving
Speaker 3: and I was having a good old loll in the
Speaker 3: car about my antics on the beach.
Speaker 4: I genuinely am about mom. I had nothing.
Speaker 3: I was listening to it going. I put no sunscreen
Speaker 3: on them. I barely had like fresh water for them.
Speaker 3: My daughter had chafing. I had nothing to help her out.
Speaker 3: No excuse of a mother, are you, Rachel?
Speaker 1: Because I think you feel like you've done your time.
Speaker 4: A hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: But you know, we did have that constant joke between
Speaker 3: Sam and I where obviously he was away all the
Speaker 3: time for work, playing footy and all the rest, and
Speaker 3: I remember always keeping the joke going, going, I'll do
Speaker 3: zero to twelve and then you've got twelve to eighteen
Speaker 3: years of age. Yeah, and I'm tapping out from twelve
Speaker 3: and my eldest is nearly twelve.
Speaker 2: Did you figure that zero to twelve because you know
Speaker 2: that's double the time of twelve to eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know that, but I was willing to
Speaker 3: do the zero to twelve for a few reasons. Foundation
Speaker 3: years very prevalent in every child, you know, zero to seven,
Speaker 3: So that was fine. The other side of it is,
Speaker 3: I thought, oh no, I think I could be a
Speaker 3: pretty good mum from zero to twelve. The twelve to eighteen, Yes,
Speaker 3: it might be a shorter span. I think a y're
Speaker 3: in for a harder slog.
Speaker 5: Though with girls. Yeah see yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So I think I was actually being quite strategic and
Speaker 3: maybe have come up with a new form of parenting.
Speaker 2: One does one dozen, one age bracket, and then it's
Speaker 2: to the other.
Speaker 4: You're to stay and play at your strengths.
Speaker 5: My friend and I was just doing that.
Speaker 2: So you think Sam's strengths a hormoneents periods.
Speaker 5: I hope so is in for a ride of his life.
Speaker 3: This actually came about in a conversation with my youngest brother.
Speaker 3: He has been helping out with the girls at different times.
Speaker 3: And I was away for work, the girls were with
Speaker 3: him and he had bought them Guzman for dinnerg GYG
Speaker 3: kind of like healthy but you know it's takeaway, but
Speaker 3: you know it's kind of somewhat healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly advertise it as like fast food that your
Speaker 2: mum's okay with or something like that.
Speaker 5: My girls love it.
Speaker 3: But what has happened and has come out of this
Speaker 3: is the drive through experience with just the two girls
Speaker 3: and Uncle Luke in the car was Elsie disclosing to
Speaker 3: Luke that she would like to order an adult sized
Speaker 3: burrito because she always is starving hungry after the kids size,
Speaker 3: and Uncle Luke obviously being you know that as Yeah,
Speaker 3: of course, darl you can have that, no worries, and
Speaker 3: then Elsie proceeds to say, because every time Mum, every
Speaker 3: time Mum orders Guig for us, I don't really get
Speaker 3: a choice.
Speaker 5: She just orders the kid's meal and that's all I get.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, that makes me sound so bad, like she's
Speaker 3: starving hungry and all I do is buy her a
Speaker 3: little kid's meal.
Speaker 2: Don't feel bad because I feel like you're still doing
Speaker 2: what you've always done because that's you know, what the
Speaker 2: order is, and then we forget that actually the bigger
Speaker 2: and the appetite is bigger.
Speaker 4: But she's got to speak up and say this to me.
Speaker 1: She's scared, so she's scared of me.
Speaker 4: She's scared to tell me Mom, I'm hungry.
Speaker 2: Mom will absolutely not buy me an adult once it's
Speaker 2: double the.
Speaker 5: Prices, double the price.
Speaker 3: And I've seen you waste food for a long time now,
Speaker 3: and so I'm assuming that that's what's gonna happen with this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wasting food. I feel like wasting food is a
Speaker 2: big thing for mums. There was something that I laughed
Speaker 2: at the other day. It was something on like Instagram,
Speaker 2: and it was like, do not throw the rest of
Speaker 2: your dinner in the bin. Put it in a container.
Speaker 2: We don't waste food. We'll put it in the fridge.
Speaker 2: We'll leave it for two weeks and then we'll.
Speaker 1: Throw it away. I live a weekly rate. Weekly I
Speaker 1: clear out our fridge and I'm like, that's not going
Speaker 1: to be eaten, because that's not going to be eaten.
Speaker 5: Food.
Speaker 1: Waste is so bad.
Speaker 3: I do exactly the same thing. I'm actually not too
Speaker 3: bad if I'm sort of working from home or around.
Speaker 3: I'll eat whatever leftovers because I'm at home and I
Speaker 3: know it's come straight out of the fridge, and I'm
Speaker 3: really finicky about that sort of stuff. But otherwise I'm
Speaker 3: the same just chucking stuff out a week later. We've
Speaker 3: got to save it in the moment, but then chucking
Speaker 3: it out a week yeah.
Speaker 1: Like the intent in the right place, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know. But then her kids, on the other hand,
Speaker 3: you know, they're just really struggling with life and really starving, hungry,
Speaker 3: and Mum's such.
Speaker 5: A bad person.
Speaker 4: She doesn't buy me a full size burrito.
Speaker 3: And you know, with this revelation, I looked at Luke
Speaker 3: and was like, so you bought her a full size
Speaker 3: did you? Hear? He said, But then I had a
Speaker 3: moment where she was sort of like sitting there and
Speaker 3: really trying to get this full size burrito down, And
Speaker 3: he said, it was just like it dawned on me
Speaker 3: to go, oh my god, she doesn't have to eat
Speaker 3: the whole thing because it is an adult, he said.
Speaker 5: I could just see she was like.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm not really gonna fit it, but
Speaker 3: she didn't have the heart to say to him, I
Speaker 3: can't eat the whole thing, and so he must have
Speaker 3: turned to her. This is what he said to me,
Speaker 3: was he turned to her and said, oh, darling, you don't.
Speaker 5: Have to eat all of it.
Speaker 3: But she'd got through like a good three quarters of
Speaker 3: the full size burrito.
Speaker 1: That's good. See.
Speaker 2: This is where again it differs so much between what
Speaker 2: we grew up with and learned around food and what
Speaker 2: we know now. And so our kids have kind of
Speaker 2: I feel like, had about half and half half of us,
Speaker 2: you know, going No, this is what we had to do.
Speaker 2: You will sit there and you will eat your dinner.
Speaker 2: You will eat the rest of your dinner, and if
Speaker 2: you don't finish it, you don't get dessert.
Speaker 1: Now we know that actually portion control, not eating too much.
Speaker 2: That food nutritioness that came on the podcast ages ago,
Speaker 2: she was very much like everything she said.
Speaker 1: We were like, oh shit, yes we do that. Don't
Speaker 1: use food as a reward. We do that.
Speaker 2: I even said the other day, I said, you haven't
Speaker 2: eaten enough dinner, and Holly said, I don't want anyone full.
Speaker 1: No you're not. No, you're not full. You haven't eaten enough.
Speaker 1: What did you eat beforehand?
Speaker 2: You've eaten something too close to dinner time, and that's
Speaker 2: why you're not hungry. Honestly, I'm not fine. Don't have
Speaker 2: it then, but you're not doing anything afterwards. Kitchens closed.
Speaker 5: Do you know what I did the other night? This
Speaker 5: is a bad confession.
Speaker 3: Sam was in the kitchen and he was looking for
Speaker 3: like a little after dinner treat. I just literally shut
Speaker 3: down all the lights. Sorry, kitchen's closed.
Speaker 5: No, you can't, your husbands, you can't have that. Kitchens clothes.
Speaker 4: Kitchens only have certain set hours, and it's for a reason.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry you can't.
Speaker 2: You might well be an adult, but the kitchen has closed.
Speaker 2: My friend, Oh, you didn't eat all your dinner. You're
Speaker 2: not having anything now.
Speaker 5: Well he's the other way.
Speaker 3: He's eating all his dinner, probably too much, and now
Speaker 3: he's looking for a little snacky after dinner up bumb bomb.
Speaker 5: Kitchen goes