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<v Speaker 1>Apodjaye Production.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Mad Mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast? Term four?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it? Yes? I was getting coffee the other day

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<v Speaker 3>and I had a lovely lady say.

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<v Speaker 4>To me, oh, only twelve weeks till Christmas?

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, what can you please refrain from that?

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<v Speaker 2>I've done absolutely nothing. I've not even done anything towards

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<v Speaker 2>the birthday.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say that you've got Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>and birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a question I used to post to buy something

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<v Speaker 2>special for sweet sixteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a thing? Or is that just American?

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<v Speaker 3>As in you're asking me if you have to buy

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<v Speaker 3>something sweet sixteen, big present.

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<v Speaker 1>Like something to keep, like a piece of or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's americanized. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't trying to think back to my sixteenth It

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<v Speaker 3>was only the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I got something. And maybe it was

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<v Speaker 3>jewelry or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't be very memorable stories to remember, No, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Because also you get your learners at sixteen, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's driving lessons, my driving lessons and something sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Itsh's a lot expensive driving.

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<v Speaker 5>Lessons how much are they these?

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<v Speaker 1>Like eighty dollars a lesson for how long? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>just for an hour, maybe.

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<v Speaker 5>Eighty dollars for half an hour.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a great I might become a driver shucked.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine I didn't even want to have my

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<v Speaker 2>own kids in my car? Then how to drive alone

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<v Speaker 2>someone every single day?

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine that? Don't you reckon?

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<v Speaker 2>Driving instructors would be really anxious, nervous people.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'd be the I think they'd be the

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<v Speaker 3>complete opposite. In my opinion, I think they'd be complete opposite.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'd be those.

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<v Speaker 4>Really like calm, calm.

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<v Speaker 3>Collected, but know it alls on the road, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>know everything everything you can think of by the book.

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<v Speaker 2>And the difference between my girls going with a driving

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<v Speaker 2>instructor who knows everything about driving and me teaching the

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<v Speaker 2>girls to drive is that they'll sit in the driving

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<v Speaker 2>seat knowing that I've driven since I was seventeen, and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll know all about it.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, you know nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't actually know how to drive car, just pretending

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<v Speaker 3>this whole time. Why you're driving them around to and

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<v Speaker 3>from everything that they do.

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<v Speaker 5>I've got no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>You're so millennial. That's what I get hit with. You're

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<v Speaker 1>so millennial.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, calm down.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I a bad mum for starving them?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we just hang on for a secon before you

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<v Speaker 2>start on this, If we just think about Rachel Thirday

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<v Speaker 2>and her parenting style. The other day, you did an

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<v Speaker 2>episode where you take your kids to the beach and

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't take sunscreen, so you got no sunscreen, no food.

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<v Speaker 3>I re listened to that episode and I was driving

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<v Speaker 3>and I was having a good old loll in the

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<v Speaker 3>car about my antics on the beach.

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<v Speaker 4>I genuinely am about mom. I had nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I was listening to it going. I put no sunscreen

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<v Speaker 3>on them. I barely had like fresh water for them.

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter had chafing. I had nothing to help her out.

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<v Speaker 3>No excuse of a mother, are you, Rachel?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think you feel like you've done your time.

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<v Speaker 4>A hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm not going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, we did have that constant joke between

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<v Speaker 3>Sam and I where obviously he was away all the

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<v Speaker 3>time for work, playing footy and all the rest, and

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<v Speaker 3>I remember always keeping the joke going, going, I'll do

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<v Speaker 3>zero to twelve and then you've got twelve to eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>years of age. Yeah, and I'm tapping out from twelve

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<v Speaker 3>and my eldest is nearly twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you figure that zero to twelve because you know

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<v Speaker 2>that's double the time of twelve to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I know that, but I was willing to

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<v Speaker 3>do the zero to twelve for a few reasons. Foundation

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<v Speaker 3>years very prevalent in every child, you know, zero to seven,

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<v Speaker 3>So that was fine. The other side of it is,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, oh no, I think I could be a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good mum from zero to twelve. The twelve to eighteen, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it might be a shorter span. I think a y're

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<v Speaker 3>in for a harder slog.

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<v Speaker 5>Though with girls. Yeah see yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think I was actually being quite strategic and

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<v Speaker 3>maybe have come up with a new form of parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>One does one dozen, one age bracket, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>to the other.

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<v Speaker 4>You're to stay and play at your strengths.

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<v Speaker 5>My friend and I was just doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you think Sam's strengths a hormoneents periods.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope so is in for a ride of his life.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually came about in a conversation with my youngest brother.

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<v Speaker 3>He has been helping out with the girls at different times.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was away for work, the girls were with

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<v Speaker 3>him and he had bought them Guzman for dinnerg GYG

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like healthy but you know it's takeaway, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's kind of somewhat healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, certainly advertise it as like fast food that your

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<v Speaker 2>mum's okay with or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>My girls love it.

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<v Speaker 3>But what has happened and has come out of this

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<v Speaker 3>is the drive through experience with just the two girls

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<v Speaker 3>and Uncle Luke in the car was Elsie disclosing to

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<v Speaker 3>Luke that she would like to order an adult sized

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<v Speaker 3>burrito because she always is starving hungry after the kids size,

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<v Speaker 3>and Uncle Luke obviously being you know that as Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, darl you can have that, no worries, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Elsie proceeds to say, because every time Mum, every

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<v Speaker 3>time Mum orders Guig for us, I don't really get

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<v Speaker 3>a choice.

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<v Speaker 5>She just orders the kid's meal and that's all I get.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, that makes me sound so bad, like she's

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<v Speaker 3>starving hungry and all I do is buy her a

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<v Speaker 3>little kid's meal.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't feel bad because I feel like you're still doing

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<v Speaker 2>what you've always done because that's you know, what the

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<v Speaker 2>order is, and then we forget that actually the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>and the appetite is bigger.

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<v Speaker 4>But she's got to speak up and say this to me.

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<v Speaker 1>She's scared, so she's scared of me.

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<v Speaker 4>She's scared to tell me Mom, I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 2>Mom will absolutely not buy me an adult once it's

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<v Speaker 2>double the.

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<v Speaker 5>Prices, double the price.

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<v Speaker 3>And I've seen you waste food for a long time now,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I'm assuming that that's what's gonna happen with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, wasting food. I feel like wasting food is a

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<v Speaker 2>big thing for mums. There was something that I laughed

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<v Speaker 2>at the other day. It was something on like Instagram,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like, do not throw the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>your dinner in the bin. Put it in a container.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't waste food. We'll put it in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll leave it for two weeks and then we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw it away. I live a weekly rate. Weekly I

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<v Speaker 1>clear out our fridge and I'm like, that's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be eaten, because that's not going to be eaten.

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<v Speaker 5>Food.

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<v Speaker 1>Waste is so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I do exactly the same thing. I'm actually not too

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<v Speaker 3>bad if I'm sort of working from home or around.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll eat whatever leftovers because I'm at home and I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's come straight out of the fridge, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really finicky about that sort of stuff. But otherwise I'm

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<v Speaker 3>the same just chucking stuff out a week later. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got to save it in the moment, but then chucking

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<v Speaker 3>it out a week yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the intent in the right place, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. But then her kids, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're just really struggling with life and really starving, hungry,

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<v Speaker 3>and Mum's such.

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<v Speaker 5>A bad person.

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<v Speaker 4>She doesn't buy me a full size burrito.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, with this revelation, I looked at Luke

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<v Speaker 3>and was like, so you bought her a full size

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<v Speaker 3>did you? Hear? He said, But then I had a

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<v Speaker 3>moment where she was sort of like sitting there and

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<v Speaker 3>really trying to get this full size burrito down, And

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<v Speaker 3>he said, it was just like it dawned on me

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<v Speaker 3>to go, oh my god, she doesn't have to eat

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing because it is an adult, he said.

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<v Speaker 5>I could just see she was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I'm not really gonna fit it, but

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't have the heart to say to him, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't eat the whole thing, and so he must have

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<v Speaker 3>turned to her. This is what he said to me,

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<v Speaker 3>was he turned to her and said, oh, darling, you don't.

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<v Speaker 5>Have to eat all of it.

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<v Speaker 3>But she'd got through like a good three quarters of

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<v Speaker 3>the full size burrito.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. See.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where again it differs so much between what

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<v Speaker 2>we grew up with and learned around food and what

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<v Speaker 2>we know now. And so our kids have kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, had about half and half half of us,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going No, this is what we had to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You will sit there and you will eat your dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>You will eat the rest of your dinner, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't finish it, you don't get dessert.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know that actually portion control, not eating too much.

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<v Speaker 2>That food nutritioness that came on the podcast ages ago,

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<v Speaker 2>she was very much like everything she said.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, oh shit, yes we do that. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>use food as a reward. We do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I even said the other day, I said, you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>eaten enough dinner, and Holly said, I don't want anyone full.

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<v Speaker 1>No you're not. No, you're not full. You haven't eaten enough.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you eat beforehand?

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<v Speaker 2>You've eaten something too close to dinner time, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why you're not hungry. Honestly, I'm not fine. Don't have

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<v Speaker 2>it then, but you're not doing anything afterwards. Kitchens closed.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what I did the other night? This

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<v Speaker 5>is a bad confession.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam was in the kitchen and he was looking for

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<v Speaker 3>like a little after dinner treat. I just literally shut

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<v Speaker 3>down all the lights. Sorry, kitchen's closed.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you can't, your husbands, you can't have that. Kitchens clothes.

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<v Speaker 4>Kitchens only have certain set hours, and it's for a reason.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>You might well be an adult, but the kitchen has closed.

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<v Speaker 2>My friend, Oh, you didn't eat all your dinner. You're

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<v Speaker 2>not having anything now.

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<v Speaker 5>Well he's the other way.

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<v Speaker 3>He's eating all his dinner, probably too much, and now

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<v Speaker 3>he's looking for a little snacky after dinner up bumb bomb.

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<v Speaker 5>Kitchen goes