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Speaker 1: Apodjaye Production.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Mad Mom?

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Speaker 1: Podcast? Term four?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Yes? I was getting coffee the other day

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Speaker 3: and I had a lovely lady say.

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Speaker 4: To me, oh, only twelve weeks till Christmas?

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Speaker 5: And I was like, what can you please refrain from that?

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Speaker 2: I've done absolutely nothing. I've not even done anything towards

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Speaker 2: the birthday.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say that you've got Christmas

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Speaker 3: and birthday.

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Speaker 2: Here's a question I used to post to buy something

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Speaker 2: special for sweet sixteen?

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Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Or is that just American?

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Speaker 3: As in you're asking me if you have to buy

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Speaker 3: something sweet sixteen, big present.

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Speaker 1: Like something to keep, like a piece of or something

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's americanized. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I haven't trying to think back to my sixteenth It

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Speaker 3: was only the other day.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I got something. And maybe it was

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Speaker 3: jewelry or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Can't be very memorable stories to remember, No, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Because also you get your learners at sixteen, and then

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Speaker 2: there's driving lessons, my driving lessons and something sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Itsh's a lot expensive driving.

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Speaker 5: Lessons how much are they these?

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Speaker 1: Like eighty dollars a lesson for how long? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just for an hour, maybe.

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Speaker 5: Eighty dollars for half an hour.

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Speaker 4: That's a great I might become a driver shucked.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine I didn't even want to have my

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Speaker 2: own kids in my car? Then how to drive alone

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Speaker 2: someone every single day?

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Speaker 1: Imagine that? Don't you reckon?

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Speaker 2: Driving instructors would be really anxious, nervous people.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think they'd be the I think they'd be the

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Speaker 3: complete opposite. In my opinion, I think they'd be complete opposite.

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Speaker 3: I think they'd be those.

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Speaker 4: Really like calm, calm.

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Speaker 3: Collected, but know it alls on the road, you know,

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Speaker 3: know everything everything you can think of by the book.

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Speaker 2: And the difference between my girls going with a driving

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Speaker 2: instructor who knows everything about driving and me teaching the

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Speaker 2: girls to drive is that they'll sit in the driving

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Speaker 2: seat knowing that I've driven since I was seventeen, and

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Speaker 2: they'll know all about it.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know nothing.

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Speaker 3: You don't actually know how to drive car, just pretending

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Speaker 3: this whole time. Why you're driving them around to and

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Speaker 3: from everything that they do.

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Speaker 5: I've got no idea.

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Speaker 1: You're so millennial. That's what I get hit with. You're

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Speaker 1: so millennial.

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Speaker 5: Okay, calm down.

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Speaker 3: Am I a bad mum for starving them?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Can we just hang on for a secon before you

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Speaker 2: start on this, If we just think about Rachel Thirday

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Speaker 2: and her parenting style. The other day, you did an

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Speaker 2: episode where you take your kids to the beach and

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Speaker 2: you didn't take sunscreen, so you got no sunscreen, no food.

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Speaker 3: I re listened to that episode and I was driving

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Speaker 3: and I was having a good old loll in the

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Speaker 3: car about my antics on the beach.

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Speaker 4: I genuinely am about mom. I had nothing.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to it going. I put no sunscreen

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Speaker 3: on them. I barely had like fresh water for them.

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Speaker 3: My daughter had chafing. I had nothing to help her out.

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Speaker 3: No excuse of a mother, are you, Rachel?

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Speaker 1: Because I think you feel like you've done your time.

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Speaker 4: A hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: But you know, we did have that constant joke between

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Speaker 3: Sam and I where obviously he was away all the

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Speaker 3: time for work, playing footy and all the rest, and

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Speaker 3: I remember always keeping the joke going, going, I'll do

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Speaker 3: zero to twelve and then you've got twelve to eighteen

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Speaker 3: years of age. Yeah, and I'm tapping out from twelve

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Speaker 3: and my eldest is nearly twelve.

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Speaker 2: Did you figure that zero to twelve because you know

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Speaker 2: that's double the time of twelve to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I know that, but I was willing to

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Speaker 3: do the zero to twelve for a few reasons. Foundation

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Speaker 3: years very prevalent in every child, you know, zero to seven,

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Speaker 3: So that was fine. The other side of it is,

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Speaker 3: I thought, oh no, I think I could be a

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Speaker 3: pretty good mum from zero to twelve. The twelve to eighteen, Yes,

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Speaker 3: it might be a shorter span. I think a y're

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Speaker 3: in for a harder slog.

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Speaker 5: Though with girls. Yeah see yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So I think I was actually being quite strategic and

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Speaker 3: maybe have come up with a new form of parenting.

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Speaker 2: One does one dozen, one age bracket, and then it's

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Speaker 2: to the other.

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Speaker 4: You're to stay and play at your strengths.

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Speaker 5: My friend and I was just doing that.

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Speaker 2: So you think Sam's strengths a hormoneents periods.

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Speaker 5: I hope so is in for a ride of his life.

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Speaker 3: This actually came about in a conversation with my youngest brother.

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Speaker 3: He has been helping out with the girls at different times.

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Speaker 3: And I was away for work, the girls were with

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Speaker 3: him and he had bought them Guzman for dinnerg GYG

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Speaker 3: kind of like healthy but you know it's takeaway, but

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Speaker 3: you know it's kind of somewhat healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly advertise it as like fast food that your

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Speaker 2: mum's okay with or something like that.

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Speaker 5: My girls love it.

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Speaker 3: But what has happened and has come out of this

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Speaker 3: and Uncle Luke in the car was Elsie disclosing to

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Speaker 3: Luke that she would like to order an adult sized

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Speaker 3: burrito because she always is starving hungry after the kids size,

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Speaker 3: and Uncle Luke obviously being you know that as Yeah,

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Speaker 3: of course, darl you can have that, no worries, and

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Speaker 3: then Elsie proceeds to say, because every time Mum, every

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Speaker 3: time Mum orders Guig for us, I don't really get

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Speaker 3: a choice.

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Speaker 5: She just orders the kid's meal and that's all I get.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, that makes me sound so bad, like she's

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Speaker 3: starving hungry and all I do is buy her a

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Speaker 2: Don't feel bad because I feel like you're still doing

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Speaker 2: what you've always done because that's you know, what the

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Speaker 2: order is, and then we forget that actually the bigger

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Speaker 2: and the appetite is bigger.

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Speaker 4: But she's got to speak up and say this to me.

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Speaker 1: She's scared, so she's scared of me.

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Speaker 4: She's scared to tell me Mom, I'm hungry.

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Speaker 2: Mom will absolutely not buy me an adult once it's

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Speaker 2: double the.

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Speaker 5: Prices, double the price.

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Speaker 3: And I've seen you waste food for a long time now,

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Speaker 3: and so I'm assuming that that's what's gonna happen with this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wasting food. I feel like wasting food is a

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Speaker 2: big thing for mums. There was something that I laughed

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Speaker 2: at the other day. It was something on like Instagram,

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Speaker 2: and it was like, do not throw the rest of

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Speaker 2: your dinner in the bin. Put it in a container.

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Speaker 2: We don't waste food. We'll put it in the fridge.

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Speaker 2: We'll leave it for two weeks and then we'll.

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Speaker 1: Throw it away. I live a weekly rate. Weekly I

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Speaker 1: clear out our fridge and I'm like, that's not going

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Speaker 1: to be eaten, because that's not going to be eaten.

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Speaker 5: Food.

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Speaker 1: Waste is so bad.

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Speaker 3: I do exactly the same thing. I'm actually not too

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Speaker 3: bad if I'm sort of working from home or around.

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Speaker 3: I'll eat whatever leftovers because I'm at home and I

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Speaker 3: know it's come straight out of the fridge, and I'm

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Speaker 3: really finicky about that sort of stuff. But otherwise I'm

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Speaker 3: the same just chucking stuff out a week later. We've

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Speaker 3: got to save it in the moment, but then chucking

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Speaker 3: it out a week yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like the intent in the right place, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I know. But then her kids, on the other hand,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're just really struggling with life and really starving, hungry,

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Speaker 3: and Mum's such.

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Speaker 5: A bad person.

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Speaker 4: She doesn't buy me a full size burrito.

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Speaker 3: And you know, with this revelation, I looked at Luke

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Speaker 3: and was like, so you bought her a full size

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Speaker 3: did you? Hear? He said, But then I had a

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Speaker 3: moment where she was sort of like sitting there and

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Speaker 3: he said, it was just like it dawned on me

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Speaker 3: to go, oh my god, she doesn't have to eat

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Speaker 3: the whole thing because it is an adult, he said.

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Speaker 5: I could just see she was like.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm not really gonna fit it, but

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Speaker 3: she didn't have the heart to say to him, I

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Speaker 3: can't eat the whole thing, and so he must have

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Speaker 3: turned to her. This is what he said to me,

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Speaker 3: was he turned to her and said, oh, darling, you don't.

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Speaker 5: Have to eat all of it.

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Speaker 3: But she'd got through like a good three quarters of

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Speaker 3: the full size burrito.

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Speaker 1: That's good. See.

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Speaker 2: This is where again it differs so much between what

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Speaker 2: we grew up with and learned around food and what

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Speaker 2: we know now. And so our kids have kind of

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Speaker 2: I feel like, had about half and half half of us,

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Speaker 2: you know, going No, this is what we had to do.

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Speaker 2: You will sit there and you will eat your dinner.

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Speaker 2: You will eat the rest of your dinner, and if

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Speaker 2: you don't finish it, you don't get dessert.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that actually portion control, not eating too much.

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Speaker 2: That food nutritioness that came on the podcast ages ago,

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Speaker 2: she was very much like everything she said.

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Speaker 1: We were like, oh shit, yes we do that. Don't

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Speaker 1: use food as a reward. We do that.

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Speaker 2: I even said the other day, I said, you haven't

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Speaker 2: eaten enough dinner, and Holly said, I don't want anyone full.

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Speaker 1: No you're not. No, you're not full. You haven't eaten enough.

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Speaker 1: What did you eat beforehand?

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Speaker 2: You've eaten something too close to dinner time, and that's

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Speaker 2: why you're not hungry. Honestly, I'm not fine. Don't have

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Speaker 2: it then, but you're not doing anything afterwards. Kitchens closed.

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Speaker 5: Do you know what I did the other night? This

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Speaker 5: is a bad confession.

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Speaker 3: Sam was in the kitchen and he was looking for

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Speaker 3: like a little after dinner treat. I just literally shut

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Speaker 3: down all the lights. Sorry, kitchen's closed.

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Speaker 5: No, you can't, your husbands, you can't have that. Kitchens clothes.

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Speaker 4: Kitchens only have certain set hours, and it's for a reason.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry you can't.

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Speaker 2: You might well be an adult, but the kitchen has closed.

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Speaker 2: My friend, Oh, you didn't eat all your dinner. You're

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Speaker 2: not having anything now.

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Speaker 5: Well he's the other way.

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Speaker 3: He's eating all his dinner, probably too much, and now

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Speaker 3: he's looking for a little snacky after dinner up bumb bomb.

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Speaker 5: Kitchen goes