WEBVTT - SOMETIMES FUNNY ALWAYS AWKWARD WITH MADDY MACRAE 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.600 I want the fairy tale. I want the prince charming. 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.960 She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.800 my kissing style with. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:10.559 A boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:11.639 He's in a trash bin. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.720 He's non recyclable catching them mu. 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:17.200 I love being love. I love love. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.599 On today's episode of Where's your Head Out, we are 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.640 thrilled to welcome Mattie McCrae to the studio to chat 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.920 all things content creation and podcasts and dating. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:28.080 In twenty twenty three. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.960 You may have stumbled across one of hilarious videos on 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.400 TikTok or Instagram, so be prepared to hear some of 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:36.080 Maddie's funny dating stories and how she comes up with 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:37.240 her entertaining content. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:40.880 She also has her very own podcast called Sometimes Funny, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:42.760 Always Awkward Stick Around. 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:44.440 You won't want to miss this one. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.319 Where's Your Head At is a podcast that talks all 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:56.720 things relationships, breakups, reality TV, trending shows, and everything in between. 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.680 This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:09.559 in some details, advice, and much more. Okay, Maddie, welcome 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.800 to the studio. While we're in your studio, thank you 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.040 for having us. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:15.920 Thanks for being here. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.360 Sydney is boiling today. I had like melting how. 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.680 To stay in two years crazy? 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.600 I literally repeat what I said before. It's because I've rocked. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:29.959 Us, three of us. 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.319 Yeah, yeah, you should be saying it's because of us, 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:32.959 you know what I mean? 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.319 Yes, because of just touchdown. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:41.040 Melbourne. You're up in Sydney. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:46.160 Yeah, and we really are experiencing a hot day. I'm sweatings. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:52.520 I'm about to take my pants off. Take space. You 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.760 have some of the funniest TikTok content I have ever seen. 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.920 Like I'm not even exaggerating. It's hilarious. Man, I will 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:01.840 binge watching for him. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.840 The best one was I think it's the one that's 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.320 the best is a clitorius one glitterist. Yeah. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.880 Yeah, She's at a party and she's being ignored. She's 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.760 put on a nicet dress. That one or the one 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.239 with the flower flower because sometimes I play the glitterists 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.239 and then other times I have the flower and that one. 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.040 Oh, they're both hilarious. I mean. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:24.959 She's being ignored at the party and he's talking to 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.720 her flap or I have. I've seen that, and that 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:28.400 one was good. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.239 It's so like just true. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:37.920 That's Clitorist, The Glitterist Flower one has twenty two million views, 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.720 which is crazy. But I think it has so many 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:42.400 views because it's so relatable. 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.000 Like Matt was like literally like, oh, I relate to that. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:47.120 I have no idea. 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:47.840 Where it is like men. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:49.960 They have this running joke because we talk about sex 0:02:50.000 --> 0:02:51.440 on our podcast. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.720 And he's like, what's full play? And I'm like, you 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:57.240 know what I mean? Like he is just like the 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.760 epitome of what's wrong with man? 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:02.799 Yes? But see, I yes, I agree. I actually want 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.080 to change the title of for play though I would 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.440 like it to be called during play. So I think 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.720 it's like a wrong perception that it has to only 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.320 happen before and at the main event is just penetrative sex. 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:14.560 It's so true. 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.000 It's all the game and sex shouldn't be so linear. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.720 It's just like kissing four play penetration wrong, And I 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:22.280 feel like it's it's a long game. 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.120 See that makes it a lot more exciting, you know 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:26.760 what I mean. It's kind of like mixing things. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.079 If are you guys friends fans? Yes? With the seven 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:36.480 seven seven. When she's explaining the erogena zones very early on, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.920 explains she explains that there's seven oroginous zones and a 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:41.920 female and she draws a diagram and then he's just like, 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.800 you go one, and then you go two, and then 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.080 one and two and she just keeps going that you 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.760 bounce between them all. You don't just go hard. We'll 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:57.720 never yeah, never, Yes, you take away from today. 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.600 I just want to stress her. I'm clearly kidding. I 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:06.800 am amazing, I'm amazing, ongoing, so good. Yeah, I just 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:08.800 I love that joke. I've never had a bad review. 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:09.440 No, no, what. 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.600 You should actually because your like TikTok content is just 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:14.720 like so engaging. 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.320 I feel like you have the power to really help women, 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.920 like you could do a self help TikTok. 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:22.239 I should for men? 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.120 I feel like this content. 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.159 Direction should I should? I could try that. I just 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.640 find that, like the algorithm, sometimes it just wants you 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.320 to do the same stuff, which is why I just 0:04:31.360 --> 0:04:34.200 make fun of sex. I just say that it's embarrassing, 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:35.520 but you know what, I think that's a new place 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.280 to go self help for men? 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:43.679 Are you practice on your first student? 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:44.080 Flower? 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:44.360 Right? 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.080 You don't smash it? 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.000 That made me laugh because you see that in porn noise, 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.000 and I think a lot of guys think you that 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:58.679 that's actually what women yeah, because and it's like guys, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.200 I think guys think that's what we' Yeah. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.400 But that's also because the ladies in porn are also 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.279 screaming as if it's the best sex they've ever had, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.280 but they're lying, yeah, they definitely there. 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.800 Could be nothing and enjoyed. I don't. I don't have one, 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:15.160 but I could not imagine getting slapped on it an 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.159 amazing feeling. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.920 Something about the pitch of the screaming. It just gets 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.000 higher and higher, and when it gets that high, you're 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.040 like that she's faking that. Yeah, She's like when it's 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.160 that only dogs can hear it. She doesn't like that. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.560 So you're telling me they're faking that, because telling me 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.280 porn is not real, you're going to tell me it's 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:33.640 not real. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:38.080 Who's going to tell him that sketch actually the one 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.359 that you're talking about. So if there's a flower on 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.440 the ground and I just have a guy kind of 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.599 smashing it around and moving it around. I got that 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.159 idea from a date, not because it happened to me, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.719 but he told me in the date about it. He 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.880 was the one that gave me the idea and then 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.920 he tried to convince me that he wasn't like that. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.159 Oh no, and then or did he do it? 0:05:59.480 --> 0:05:59.600 Well? 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.560 Yeah, and I've titled that. I'm titled that sketch whack 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.080 a Mole because it's like he's playing with the clitterists, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:12.760 like it's whack a Mole's are you're just whapping? Just 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:13.440 just smash it. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.560 So do you get a lot of insfo from like 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.000 people that you're dating? 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:18.960 Yeah, yeah, a lot of the time. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.480 And just I was gonna ask, how do you get 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.359 the other content as well? How do you think of 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.039 like the one with the stomach and how the drinks 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:26.920 are coming in? Like how do you think it's. 0:06:26.560 --> 0:06:32.240 So obvious everyone who's listening because we're just not describing these. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:34.039 Tiktoks, like you're going to have to go bing? 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:34.719 Yeah? 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:35.599 Let me. 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.840 I personify things a lot. My type of common sketches 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.200 is personification. So I will pretend to be in out 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:46.719 of it objects. Yeah, often the glitters, and then my 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:48.599 most popular ones is the ones in the stomach, So 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.920 I pretend to be like like a lady with the clipboard, 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.040 she's the stomach and she's like welcome, and then all 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.880 the alcohol comes in and it's a big hot mess 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.680 and party, which that one I actually was inspired by 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.240 a stand up comedian's routine that was like four forty 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.520 years ago. He has a stand up routine called party 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.359 in the Stomach Jim Brewer. And I was laying in 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.680 bed at night and I just had this like memory 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:10.200 of going out when I was eighteen and eating nothing 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.600 all day but lighting the stomach with a slice of 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.080 bread because you get drunk faster on little money, but 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.280 you like try to prevent to hangover, but it never works. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.080 And that was my first stomach skit and that was 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:21.960 like the first time that one has had like twenty 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.240 one million views. That was my most viral video and 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.440 so I've kept that going as like a series. I 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.480 keep doing so good. Yeah they're fun. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.040 So how did you get into TikTok? Like where did 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:33.720 it all start? 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.880 So? I'm an actor, I'm a trained actor, and I 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.880 think that if you ever ask a content creator when 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.640 they started, they always say COVID, and like it is, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:44.920 it's COVID lockdown. In twenty twenty one, I wasn't working 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.320 in my retail job and I wasn't getting any acting 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:51.000 work because all productions had closed. Down, I was really bored. Yeah, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.640 I just made like little skits. Well actually no, I 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.560 just did like lip sync videos, which is what you 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:57.840 still see on reels and TikTok. And then I did 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.640 one skit that went viral in September of twenty twenty one, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.000 which is actually when you when you go to your parents' 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.360 house and they use that classic joke of good afternoon, 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.119 and they think it's the funniest joke in the world. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.600 When you wake up with like age, they're like, oh, 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:15.040 good afternoon, thanks dad. Yeah, yeah, it's funny, funny, it's 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.480 afternoon because I slept in a little bit, so that 0:08:18.560 --> 0:08:20.520 one went crazy and that was like the first time 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.880 I did a skit. Yeah, I just went from there 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.080 and then it's just like blown up in the last year. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.200 They're just so relatable now that you've said it, because 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.280 I actually didn't know you're an actress. Now it makes yeah. 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.800 Because I have a friend who's also an actor, and 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.800 I feel like, you know, you guys have like a 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.679 similar style. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.920 And mannerisms and yeah, yeah, it's yeah, so that's right. Yeah, 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.400 I have the skills of acting, but I also I 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.160 did a degree in film editing, so I didn't kind 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.200 of stumble upon it. I did have the skills there. 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.040 I just had to like kind of adapt it for 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.199 social media and it just kind of worked. It was magic. 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.040 Well, now you have your own podcast and you have 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.760 to edit videos. This is all tied perfectly. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.840 It does happen. I did that first degree when I 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.400 was like eighteen, and I was like, I'm never going 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.480 to use this degree ever, and then here I am 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:07.280 using it. It's great. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.440 This is why you do degrees where you actually have 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.240 an interest in things, because somehow that's going to come 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.960 around and it's like that, Yeah, I reck so good. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.000 Do you feel the pressure of constantly trying to think 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.240 of new content? 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:19.240 Absolutely? 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.520 At the moment, I'm in this kind of weird rut 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.640 where I'm like focusing on the numbers too much, and 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.000 it's bad because I don't want to. I just want 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:27.760 to put out good content that I find funny. If 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.280 I find it funny, somebody else is going to find 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:29.679 it funny. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:30.000 Yeah. 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:32.760 But I think that, like I call it the content treadmill, 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.880 where you're just like, oh, the algorithm's going to punish 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.440 me if I don't post on a certain day, and 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.480 I just have to remember that my audience is that 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.560 is there, that they're loyal and they're there for me, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:43.920 and I don't have to I don't have to hit 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:46.400 twenty two million views every time. No, I just have 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:47.360 to be happy with you back. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:51.959 I have a theory that when I post a. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:52.600 Video, it's going to go viral. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.800 I have a theory that, like my phone is jinxed, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:03.440 so we get the video sentiment. It's your video has 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.320 just go so much for viral than mine, like mine. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.800 I just I reckon I reckon my ip. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:10.199 It's just in my editing. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.360 On my phone. It's jinx or something. 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.200 I can't take any sort of like constructive criticism, even 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.479 from like the algorithm. 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:24.000 I just think that's not me. It's this is great content. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.439 It's probably pretty average. I'm just happy with it myself, 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:27.280 to be fair. 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:28.640 I'm so funny. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.800 It's like, what's your like key tips to someone who 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.360 wants to succeed on TikTok, someone like Matt who the 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.560 algorithm is a guest. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.280 It's definitely my phone, not even my account. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:46.040 How can I be that algorithm. 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.760 I think that you have to change your mentality, that 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.720 it's not a game to beat. You just have to 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:53.720 be consistent, and you have to replace the word algorithm 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.720 with audience. Okay, so you're making it an algorithm. You're 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:58.240 making it for your audience. And the ones that are 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.240 there that are showing up for you there, they're the 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.200 ones you make the content for and the rest will come. 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:06.080 Yeah. I love those people that are there. You're all 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:13.480 five of you. I love you. You're coming with exactly Yeah, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:14.120 ones better than. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:22.720 None of the watching if you're not oln house. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:31.680 TikTok is a very look. Sometimes I find TikTok to 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.320 be a very negative place. 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.840 Have you found that? Obviously? You you post very like 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:37.720 funny and. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:42.960 Like uplifting and comedic content. Have you ever received like hates? 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.920 It happens all the time. Really, comedy is always at 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.880 the expense of someone, and someone's going to get offended 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.240 and they always do. Like I make fun of men, 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.240 and some guys have like a real good sense of 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.200 humor about it, and they're like, yeah, this's just funny. 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:55.760 But then I have other guys that are just like 0:11:56.240 --> 0:12:00.240 not all men. I'm not saying that all men ship 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:01.760 at finding the glitterist, but some are. 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.640 Because I mean, I was about to say, you find 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:14.640 one that a big portion of men that I know. 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.480 I probably don't even know what the word glitter. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.280 Just think a woman has like one hole when she 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.960 has three like you. 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:34.079 They definitely I go to, Yeah, I definitely know that's. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.199 Like stopped verbally talking. 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.480 He's just like I don't want to put my foot 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.520 in my mouth. Ru. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:45.360 Yeah, this editing we're unedited with on the space, we'll 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:45.880 cut it out. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:46.160 Yeah. 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:51.240 Yeah, I definitely get hate, but it's mostly from conservative men. 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.240 I think also, like I'm in a country. We're in 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.240 a country where it's like very normal for a woman 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.560 to be dating, whereas in maybe other places it's not 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.880 so common. So if that video, the thing about TikTok 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.560 and Instagram is like that video can kind of go 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.720 anywhere in the world, and if it kind of finds 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.520 people that are not so used to a woman going 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.400 on dates before marriage or having sex before marriage, then 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.040 they can. And I think it's less of a me thing, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:15.560 it's more of a like they're just not used to 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:16.400 it culture. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.400 Wow, So you get like your videos get shown to 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.240 people who are super super conservative. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.840 Sometimes it's kind of stopped because like I think what 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.079 happens is like when you're posting your the algorithm does 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.040 figure out who your audience is and we'll kind of 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.800 send it to them. So like, obviously I get sent 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:35.760 to Australia a lot in America UK. But when I 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.440 started posting on the podcast Instagram, it was fresh, and 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.920 I forgot that my audience wasn't there, and so then 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:43.760 the algorithm's like where do we put this? And it 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.520 kind of showed it to everyone, and then I was like, 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.800 h oh, wrong audience, Oh yeah, let's ease come in. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.640 And then the algorithm finds the people. 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.160 What's some of the worst hate you've had? 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.280 If you or if you might I've been called like 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:57.800 can I swear? 0:13:58.000 --> 0:13:59.600 Yeah, of course of course you can. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:03.520 Yes, I've been called a slot and a whore and 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.760 like go back to the streets all that jazz, or 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.800 like she'll never find a man, she'll be forty and 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.400 old and wrinkley and blah blah blah. It is like that. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.199 Like I feel like TikTok has so many keyboard warriors 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.320 and it actually scares me scary. 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:16.960 I just can't believe you got out of your way 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:17.920 to comment it. 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.640 Yeah, I can't wrap my head around it either, But 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.800 I mean I feel like the thing with TikTok is, 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.880 like people want to say outrageous things in the hopes 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.480 that their comment will go viral. Yes, and so they're 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.680 like actually like trying to say maybe things that are 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.320 even more left a field than even they believe, like troll. 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.360 Baiting or yeah something. I find people do that too. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:38.840 That I know that they're just trying to get me 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:41.840 to respond because I have replied once and then they're like, 0:14:41.880 --> 0:14:43.920 oh my god, she replied. It's like, oh, okay, so 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.680 you don't hate me, You're just wanting me to reply 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:47.520 to you. And it worked. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.320 Yeah, yeah, he won, Yes that around. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.040 Okay, do you ever like feel like deleting any videos 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:55.960 or have you deleted any videos? I have? 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.000 Yeah, right, it's been a long time since I did, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.240 but very early on. I'm more conscious now of like 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.440 who I can offend and like doing the wrong thing 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:06.560 because my audience is so large. When I first started, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.520 I was like, were funny, funny, funny? Throw throw through? 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.000 It just threw them out, and so like in the beginning, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.520 that's when I got some feedback that I was like, oh, oh, okay, no, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.880 I didn't mean it that way. The joke got misconstrued 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.600 and I've taken it down, but it's been a really 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.400 long time since I've taken them down. 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.800 What was the content where you don't remember. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.200 Yes, the most recent one, which was probably like almost 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:28.480 a year ago that I deleted. I was pretending to 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.040 be a woman on a date, and it was like 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.280 if she was honest, if she could be honest, and 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.120 I was making jokes about like not paying on the 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.320 date or like kind of like you know, faking her 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.760 wallet being it was. I think I just I offended 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:43.280 some people and I was like, oh, okay, and. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.120 You offended like male, I was no females as well? 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.640 Yeah, sorry, Yeah, I think And I was just like 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.840 trying to do it in a sarcastic way to lull 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.880 this is funny. But I think people thought that I 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:55.600 was being serious. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:55.960 Yeah. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.520 I was like, no, I'm actually being sarcastic. Yeah, And 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.360 I took it down. I'm less sensitive about it now. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:02.160 I probably would have left it up, but I just 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:04.720 was like, no, I don't. I can't handle the hate 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.440 right now because I get like the comments are so 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.600 positive and then like the moment I get a bit 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.280 of hate, I'm like, ah, everyone hates me. You gonna 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:12.920 get canceled. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:14.240 Have you ever turned comments off? 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:20.479 But I have deleted comments before we turned it? What happened? 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.760 I mean we've had We had Harry Jowsy on our 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.760 podcast and he basically said that he hooked out with 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.520 a trans woman and like people, I don't know where 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.880 in America it was like out like America. 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:40.600 Yea, the level of like transfer comments on a. 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.480 Different level, Like I didn't even know people like that 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:44.480 even still existed. 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.400 I think actually it was pretty eye opening. I was 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:47.040 like wow. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.280 And we spoke to him and he was like, yeah, 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.920 like if you guys can just maybe like what is 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:53.120 it when you can put a. 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.040 Restrict restrict words? 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:03.400 And because we like to interview people that people obviously 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.399 don't always like from like reality TV in that way. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.640 Yeah, we're working to like reality TV. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.680 Getting like the villains on. We like to hear their side. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.440 That's interesting, right, But like people are so like one 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.840 way minded that it's almost like, well, you're a bad 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.440 person for giving someone a platform. 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.160 Well, there's always two sides to a story. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:25.840 You're more than happy to see, like the way someone's 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.760 been edited by someone else. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:29.919 Why not hear from them and then make your own decision. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.880 I mean, the thing that we love most about having 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:34.159 a podcast is just like hearing different sides and then 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.000 making our own personal decision. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.160 And that's something that I. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.240 Sometimes confused as to why everyone doesn't want to make 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.040 their own decision, like they just want to go with 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:44.560 the crowd. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.040 That's not We want to hear from them, and we 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.439 find it more interesting than just getting on Like the 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.399 most loved person from a show and you're. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:52.720 Not like. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.080 That doesn't the one that doesn't do any other podcast 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.399 because anyone wants, And we're like, yeah, we'll have still. 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:02.560 Like they're the ones that made the show interesting in 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.560 the beginning. There has to be a villain and they're 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.200 not controlled watching. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.400 W w A and I always loved the bad guy, 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:15.360 always loved to do it. Yeah, I I love being 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:16.720 the heel. I love the heels. 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.520 About that he should maybe you can help now with 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:26.800 his TikTok algorithm and help him undam unshadowed. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.520 Did the TikTok golds are just against me? 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:38.800 I'm going to check it out. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.720 Like one video and it goes back. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.679 I think she just feels I'm so sporadically what I 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:47.120 post because any stick okay movie reviews I. 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.560 Do one and then because he did one and it 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.560 wasn't the there I'm just gonna put that out there. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.679 You have to commit. You have to commit stick to 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.840 one and just keep going even if one fails. 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:58.760 How long did it take you to really like take 0:18:58.800 --> 0:18:59.560 off on TikTok? 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.280 I started in July twenty twenty one and I took 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.280 off in feb So six months of consistent posting that 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.159 it's hard work and people think that like it's hot 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.560 and that's like every day maybe twice a day, Like 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.720 it's just it's consistent. But I was just doing it 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:15.720 for fun, like it wasn't a full time job. Then 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.440 now it is now that it's a full time job. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.240 Yet now I feel the stress because I'm like, this 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.600 is my livelihood. Yeah, if I don't do well, if 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.360 the brands don't want to work with me, then I'm done. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:25.679 You want to go back to retail. 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.879 But also you have the podcast now, like you've become 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.119 like your own basically brand brand personality. 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:35.320 So it's been Yeah, we've I'm growing, putting fingers in 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:36.800 more pies just in case. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:42.600 Yeah, who's the biggest celebrity or famous person that's commented. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:47.600 On I haven't had them comment, but Raven Simone it 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.320 follows me and so we're like mutuals on TikTok. Raven 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:54.679 Simone was from that, so Raven I love so she 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:56.440 follows Yeah it's. 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:03.600 Disney not Disney. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.520 She follows me, so we follow each other. So we're 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.560 like technically friends on so I could message her, but 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:10.440 I haven't. 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.639 Get her on the podcast. It would be cool. 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:15.000 She's cool. 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:16.440 She is really cool. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:20.600 You should just try to shoot pie Mary. Just throw them. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:26.639 See you can get on the body big throw some hail. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.280 Mary, And how do they learn? 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.480 I mean, I mean we sometimes get her. I've got to. 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:39.240 You've done better than I got to. Haven't I got 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.040 one the other day. It's I mean I think that 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.640 if when we're shooting these hail for a girl, it's 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:47.240 easier for a girl than me, and mine's a bit more. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.520 And just mad specifically, I think I get it better. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:57.000 But I think though that like I'm a bit forward coming. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:58.680 I say, let's tea up the time, Like I don't 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:00.680 even give them an option on my but that's good 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.280 at the time. Yeah, something a bit more straight to it. 0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:06.080 I think that's a good energy to have those. 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:07.919 Yeah, Like I'm not asking you. 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:09.240 I'm just saying it happening. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:12.119 And if they don't reply to me, you know what 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.320 if chrim Chris Hemsworth doesn't want to reply to me, 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:14.800 so be it. 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:17.200 Have you tried Chris Hams? 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:24.760 I think, yeah, like this girl. 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:27.199 I remember once I had this like follower and they 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:28.480 would like reach out to. 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.720 Me every single day consistently. 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.159 And like they'd be like, at four pm, I'm sending 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:36.359 you like a live like video link to like zoom 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:38.240 in with me, and she'd be like, are we waiting 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:39.800 on it for like the next thirty minutes. 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.600 If you do, and she just like would keep doing. 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.199 It, and I was like, I don't want to like 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:48.480 log on because like imagine if they're like winking off weird. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.480 But I was like, like, literally every day for like months, 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.480 she was sending me a live like zoom link and 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:54.240 I was like, what the. 0:21:54.200 --> 0:21:55.840 Hell are you upset when it stopped? 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:03.080 No, Yeah, I have this guy who replies to every 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.679 story mummy with like a little love heart And I 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.480 hated it to begin with, but now I'm like, where's 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:11.120 my mummy? Mummy? 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:19.719 Like we had we've had storkers before. Relation over was. 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:21.879 I definitely did my research. She was in England. She 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.720 would send me photos but like not like I couldn't see. 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.679 But when she sent actual photos that I could click on, 0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:28.960 she's definitely in English. I was like, I'm safe here, 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.320 should say she's coming to Australia heat. So I I 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.159 was ignoring them the request, but she stopped and I 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:40.360 was like the validation. 0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:44.520 Guy I got broken up with. Remember I had it. 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:47.320 I had like a stalk guy who I actually was like, 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:48.240 is this my ex? 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.040 Like, I'm just like, you know, you're putting in too much. 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.199 I posted it my with my now fiance that we 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.600 were like it was like our hard launch, and he 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:00.679 like literally sent me a break cut message. 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.000 I was like, I'm sorry. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.720 I think this is actually really common for ladies on 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.720 social media, is that as soon as they tell them 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:08.200 that they're like off the market, they're like, well I 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:09.920 don't have a chance with you anymore, and they unfollow. 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.040 No doubt, if I was to get into a relationship, 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:14.840 I think that would happen. 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:16.919 Wow, what did we literally say on the way here 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.840 that we dropped a bunch of relationships? 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:24.040 Well, look, speaking of relationships, we are going to talk 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.119 all things at relationships. 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:33.480 Neg Okay, so what is your relationship status at the moment. 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:40.000 Severely single, severely Like, I'm just I've given up as 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.120 of now. No, I'll come back. I'm just getting break. 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.480 I'm just tired. I'm just I'm tired. I'm tired of 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.720 the apps. Yeah, I just am not a fan of 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.000 them anymore. And I live alone at home and I 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:53.879 work from home, so it's just it's going hard to 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.480 meet people in person. So I'm just like, you know 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.000 what the universe is telling me that you did. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.480 Say that before. Your phone's pretty dry. 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:04.040 Yeah, I didn't have to put it on. Yeah, I 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:12.439 do not have that problem. My friends said, mummy, Like, 0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:15.760 there's my mummy message. 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.240 I was living alone, though, just on a side, not 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.800 because I lived. 0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:22.280 Alone before I met Michael, and it was the best 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:23.240 thing I ever did. 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:24.720 It is great. I do love it. 0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:26.000 I could do it. 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:27.560 You don't know why not? 0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:28.439 Why not? 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:30.480 I don't know. I love my alone time. 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.520 But I think that like he thinks he's too needy, 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.000 but I think that it would do you the world. 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:37.480 I have thought that as well. 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.199 I've been living alone since August. I was living with 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.280 my sister prior to that. For most of COVID and 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.560 then yeah, I just moved into an apartment by myself, 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:45.280 took the plunge. 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:45.720 I love it. 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:48.600 I did well. Yeah, I needed it. I was like, 0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.119 I'm too old to be in sharehouses now I can't 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.359 because living with her it was different because she was 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:55.760 my sister, so it wasn't really a sharehouse. I'm like, 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.480 I can't do housemates. I can't. 0:24:57.680 --> 0:25:01.120 Yeah, that's totally tru I'm cat. 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:02.560 Sitting at the moment I said, I was about to 0:25:02.600 --> 0:25:09.360 see you as a cat. I am a catw I'm 0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:12.240 not a cat lady, crazy cat ticking out my puppy 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.520 on Friday stood, Oh. 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:19.760 My god, I want a cad And that's a sausage. 0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.560 I do love a dashing as well. They're very I 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:25.399 was tossing up between the two breaths and I went for. 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:28.480 Me. 0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:33.320 I am the biggest lover of sausage dogs. 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.720 They're very cute. I think the only reason I didn't 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:37.240 is because they have health concerns. 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.400 I think it's a little bit. I think it's a fallacy. Yeah, 0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:44.040 I think it's just for everyone. You hear the way, Yeah, 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.399 those stories more than you like. 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:50.840 People you know actually have experiences. Because one of my 0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:54.080 good friends Adele, she's a content creator in Melbourne. She yes, 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:56.560 she has a sausage dog. And I have my my 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.439 dog and I think I'm calling him Ben on Friday, 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.960 I'm picking him up. So living alone has been great, 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.880 but I'm like, I need a friend and I'm getting 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:05.160 a dog. 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:10.479 Dale comes up in my for you page algorithms with 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:11.720 the dashounds. 0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.320 Yes, it keeps coming up, so just be up. My 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:16.120 I'll come up in your for you page because it'll 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:21.640 be dog content from now on. Well, okay, but you've restricted, 0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.560 You've restricted the word comoodle cannot come up. 0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.280 Any other jugs are out. 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:28.920 That's excited. 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.640 Yeah, okay, let's talk about your biggest red flags because 0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:34.280 obviously he. 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:35.879 Said you're severely single. 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.159 Oh yeah, I'm assuming there's a few red flags that 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.760 maybe you've. 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.520 Seen recently the dating world. 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.840 I mean, I don't. I mean I think this is general. 0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:47.840 I don't like people who lie on their profile. And 0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.960 this happens a lot with people showing up not being 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:50.840 who they say they are. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:52.360 The catfish situation. 0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.760 Yeah, just about appearance. And it's like not that I'm shallow, 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.159 it's just like just upload your photos and give me 0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:01.040 the correct hide and like let's yes, let's not. Let's 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:01.760 just be truthful. 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:02.640 Does that happen a lot? 0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.960 So you think so? Like what are so height wise? Yes? 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.439 Anything else? Like are they filtering? 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:11.920 Or I wouldn't think men do that. 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.000 Like, oh yeah, I mean you're a tall guy, so 0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.760 you've never I've never had to and like as a 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.119 tall girl, I actually don't care if someone's shorter than me. 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:20.959 But I care that they care because then they make 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:21.880 a big deal about it. 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.040 Really because I've. 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:25.720 Dated guys shorter than me, Like I don't care, but 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.440 then they I don't know, they come with a chip 0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:29.960 on their shoulder about it. That's not massive though. I 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.040 think that's just pretty standard. But I don't even know, 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.240 Like I don't I just get a vibe off people vibe. 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:37.520 But Okay, this is the biggest thing that I'm finding 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.720 the age that I'm at, which is twenty nine, twenty nine, 0:27:40.840 --> 0:27:43.240 I cannot believe the amount of people my age that 0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:46.320 don't want to have a serious relationship everyone I meet. 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.680 I think it's because they're coming out of long term relationships, 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.879 like they've met their early twenties and then they've like 0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.240 broken up to like I just want to have fun. Yeah, like, 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.880 I've been single for two years now, I'm like, I'm 0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.520 ready to have I mean someone, How is your last 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.439 relationship really badly? 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:01.800 Well? 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:03.680 Sorry, do you want to talk about it? 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:06.800 I actually haven't spoken about it much, only because she's 0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:09.479 also sorry I dated a girl. She also is in 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:11.880 the performing world, and so I kind of don't want 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.159 to talk too much about it. We both have our 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.960 sides of the story to tell. It was not our 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.320 good ending, and like it ended up like we're not 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.640 talking blocking kind of energy. It was really not fun, 0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.240 and then we like kind of were in a breakup 0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.080 over like a year, Like it took a year to 0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.439 end in the year of twenty twenty. So throughout all the. 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.840 Lockdown, I was about to say that it was really 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:34.440 really hard. 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:35.919 For both of us, and then it just was like 0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.920 really messy, and so that fucked me up for a while, 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:39.920 and I've like been in therapy for ages for it. 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.800 And then now I'm like, okay, all right, I'm good. 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:44.680 And now I'm like, okay, Universe, I'm ready, and the 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:47.600 universe is like no. 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:48.320 No, it's a moment that you're like, okay, I'm not 0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.560 ready anymore, Like he so, would you. 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.200 Take another girl then or I would Yeah, yeah, I 0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.000 date both. I think that right now I'm probably leaning 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.280 towards men only because I have like a little bit 0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.560 of PTSD, but I know that like her and my 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.479 experience with her isn't all women. But I was just 0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.760 like just maybe there was just an energy there that 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.520 I was just like, I just have PTSD, Like I've 0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:11.080 gone on a date before with a woman, Like the 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:12.800 second date I was on, I was like having a 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:14.840 panic attack. And I don't know why. I don't know 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.960 if it's a agenda thing and I'm still dating both, 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:18.640 but I don't know. 0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.760 I don't know. Wow, it definitely opens the pool up 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:26.560 a lot more. It really grim about you're going to 0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:27.240 find someone. 0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.240 I know, I liked it. I am complaining well with. 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:37.800 Me, but it's fine. 0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.760 But good on you for going to therapy. Like I 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.640 can actually speak for both of us. We both had 0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:46.840 really bad breakups before our now partners, and I was 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.560 in therapy with a bias therapy. Oh what yeah, it 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:53.400 was my excess therapy. No, I've actually never spoken about 0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.600 that on the podcast. It's actually a huge conflict of 0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:56.920 interest and should never have happened. 0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:00.520 But anyway, I mean, yeah, that's probably not the right place. 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.240 You should probably go to a mutual shouldably go like Switzerland. 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.000 Yeah, someone's subjective. 0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:06.360 It has no idea who either. 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:08.360 Therapy. 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:10.000 Maybe I think I've. 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.680 Had a realization in front of us. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.880 Isn't this therapy session right now? 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.800 I actually went on another podcast and they were like, 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.320 don't don't have a podcast. 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:24.320 Yeah, I think that's what this is because most of 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.200 my podcasts is just making fun of my dating life. Yeah. 0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:29.960 Well that's why we started this podcast because we were like, 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.640 this is our relationship story. 0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:34.280 We're in the same place as you. 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.760 Okay, so in a year's time, I'll be fine. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.760 Three months we were just like fu. 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:41.480 Is. 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.960 We started the podcast and we were like both so 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.240 all in on the podcast, and we were like we 0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:47.480 need to remain single. 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.760 Yes, the podcast and I feel like our like want 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:52.120 to not relationship. 0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.800 That's why somehow brought us relationships. 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.200 Were like drafts. 0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.480 That's really funny. The universe it works in strange ways. 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.800 Yeah, the Dace station techniques, we didn't have them down, Pat, 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:09.000 we didn't know what then. Yeah, do you have any 0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:11.960 funny dating story? It's all like your funniest dating story. 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.440 Yeah, these ones I shared on the pod and I 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.120 shared this one is like the one that people respond 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:19.160 to the most. It was the one I talked about 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.600 in the pilot episode. I went on this date with 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:23.960 a guy who I met on a set of a 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.840 commercial and he invited me back to his place like 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:29.920 we were just talking on DMS. We'd already met in 0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:31.520 real life, so we never actually had a date. And 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:32.680 he was like, do you want to come over to 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.680 my house? Wink. I was like yeah, And so then 0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:37.880 like I was driving to he just gave me like 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.840 a suburb. So I started driving to the suburb and 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:41.600 then like as I was driving, he gave me the 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:45.280 address and it was a car park at a beach. 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.240 Was a car park, so that's his house the record, Well, no, 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.520 it was a van. It was a van parked on 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:57.480 the beach car park that's never dated an act. And 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.120 he had his mattress in there in the van. He 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:01.960 had the back of the van open to the beach 0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:05.600 and it was pitch black playing his guitar. You know 0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:10.200 what doesn't sound It wasn't that bad, but he's We 0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:12.360 sat there and he serenaded me for an hour and 0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.680 a half. It was like a rock concert, like he 0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.200 was asking me for suggestions, and I don't mind a man, 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:18.240 you've just. 0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:22.280 Request you've literally come for I'm assuming. 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:27.480 Yes, I was coming, She's ready to do it my ticket. 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.480 I didn't what to do with this end gamet there 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.400 like serenading me for an hour and a half and 0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:35.080 I was like too afraid to kind of make the 0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:37.080 first move. Wed like kissed a couple of times, and 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:38.480 I was like, when are we going to get in 0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.680 the back of event Like, I'm not happy about it being. 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:42.800 A man, let's just do it. Come on. 0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.680 So eventually, like he stopped the concert. The concert ended 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:57.560 after like did you an uncle? But he like had 0:32:57.600 --> 0:32:59.480 like the chords open on his phone. He was like 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.360 asking me for requests. I was like throwing him curveballs. 0:33:02.360 --> 0:33:04.520 I was asking to play like Chicken Fried by Zach 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.320 Brown band, like country song, and I was like, come on, 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:08.920 and I was just like what is going on? It 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.960 was just really funny. Eventually we got into the back 0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:11.840 of his van. It happened. 0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:16.080 I was the sad. Was it worth the and a half? 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:18.080 No? 0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:18.920 But did he know. 0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:20.640 No? 0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:22.120 Definitely. 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:24.280 I don't think he even tried to like attend to 0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:25.960 that area. I think it was just like in and out. 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.680 But the thing was is like he told me that 0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.880 he had this thing called relationship dick. Have you ever 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.840 heard of this? No, I had never heard of it either. 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.440 Do you know what, I'm very curious. I think I 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:35.320 know what it is. 0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.000 Well, he'd just come out of a long term relationship, 0:33:38.360 --> 0:33:42.320 so he couldn't get hard. I was someone new, so 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:43.160 it took him age. 0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:48.800 He could be pretending, not pretending. He could be like, 0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:50.040 I'm still in love with my. 0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.160 Well, they did get back together, so he was so true. 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:54.920 It was the truth. 0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.920 But I've never heard of relationship neither. 0:33:57.040 --> 0:33:57.640 I hadn't. 0:33:59.320 --> 0:33:59.680 Explain. 0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.000 It makes sense, but I just had never heard of 0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:02.320 that term. 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.240 Okay, so this might be a bit so he couldn't 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.960 get hard. Yeah, and he also didn't attend to the no. 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:10.560 No, but that's not the that's not the end of 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:11.000 the story. 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:11.480 Okay. 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.879 Because we were out his van, and we'd been there 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:18.080 for an hour and a half listening to music, and 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:19.960 then it took a while for his dick to join 0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.920 the party. I really needed to wee. There were no 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.680 toilets around, so I hadn't gone to evacuate the bladder. 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.560 Oh no, And he finally was like ready to go, 0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:31.880 and he grabbed me by the waist so hard that 0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:32.919 I weed a little bit. 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:36.080 I know what it is? 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.120 What it is? I mean, that's I played it off. 0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.440 It's hot. Yeah, that's a fetish. 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.719 He's into it. Okay, good, I'm not. 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.640 I'm not into it, but like whatever, it takes a lot. 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:51.480 We've spoken. It takes a lot to get to me 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.799 turned off, to get me like turned off. Yeah, like 0:34:56.880 --> 0:35:00.439 we have the hotline and that you know play. 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.080 I went my pants a little bit and I played 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:07.640 it off that I was just like really wet for 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:09.920 him because of his concert. So he was like really, 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:15.040 so the sex part didn't actually last that long? It 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:15.479 was good. 0:35:15.760 --> 0:35:17.040 Did he believe? 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.480 He was like this, she love me playing? 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.680 Yeah, they go pick up the guitar. 0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.799 No, was he like a rabbit type of like lover? 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.319 You know? I can't even remember because like that part 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.400 wasn't even a focus. I was just lying. They'd be like, 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:32.920 please be done, and it was. It was quick. He 0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.279 was out and I was like, I'm going to go 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.160 home now, Oh my god. 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:39.239 Was there anyone around if it's a public or was 0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.200 it too late for anyone to be there? 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:43.520 Probably there were other cars there. I don't know. 0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:47.760 Yeah, probably imagine going on a date with your partner 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:53.440 to like a look out, you know, you'd be like, 0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:55.560 don't break up with it. I don't want to go 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:56.480 back out there. 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:01.040 I can't. 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.040 Oh my god, that's too good. 0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.759 Have you ever been ghosted or stood up on a date? 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:07.799 I've never been stood up on a date, but I 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:09.920 get ghosted heaps of times on dating apps. I just 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.880 think it's the it's the trend. You message for a 0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.320 bit and then you never arrange a date and it 0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:14.880 never happens. 0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.799 You ever ghost absolutely, Yeah, we all have right now. 0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.279 I thinks he hasn't, but he definitely have. 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.880 You done like a mutual ghost where like yeah, yeah, 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:29.239 we've discussed and Fizzle is a ghost exactly. You just 0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:31.080 don't know who's your fault there. But you both were. 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.319 Well I reckon, I say, I reckon. You both reckon. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.360 You've ghosted because I reckon? She goes, I ghosted him and. 0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:45.759 Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I've ghosted. Sometimes it's the only 0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.239 way because I feel like a message in having to 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.719 give a reason why you don't want to it can 0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:51.640 be more hopeful. 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:53.080 Yeah, that's true. 0:36:53.520 --> 0:36:55.480 I think that too, like sometimes you don't want like 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:58.440 an essay like, hey, you're not really my type, this 0:36:58.520 --> 0:36:59.239 isn't gonna work out. 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.960 I'm just like, let's you know, it's not into it 0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:02.640 or whatever. 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.359 When do you think is the right time to send 0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.240 a message then? Or not too how long into dating someone? 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:14.520 As in like when's acceptable to ghost? And I think 0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:18.280 if you've been on two dates, it's acceptable to ghost. 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:20.160 If you've been on three or more, do you have 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.960 a different opinion. I think three or more they deserve a. 0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:26.839 Message two good dates or too well. 0:37:26.880 --> 0:37:29.360 I'm assuming after the second date, second date's. 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.560 Bad, you've texted. I don't know. 0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.040 I think even with texting, I think it's like got 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.239 to do with like in person contact, Like if after 0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:39.359 the second date, you know. 0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.160 I think you can read a room, Yeah, you can 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:42.880 read the room. 0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.799 And I think it's okay. I think it's okay after 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:46.680 a second date, but after a third like if the 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.920 second date went well and you chose to meet again, 0:37:49.040 --> 0:37:53.880 then they deserve a message. Yeah yeah, yeah, fu well. 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.160 I feel like dating is like so fucked and like 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.920 you kind of touched on it before, Like everyone isn't 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:02.879 doesn't seem. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:05.480 To be looking for a partner. 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.120 I always is that I think that there's too much choice. 0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:11.759 Like have you ever been like if you're scrolling on 0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:13.719 Netflix and you want to commit to a movie or 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:17.080 a show, but there's so many other options, true, and 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:20.319 then like you start watching it. Yeah, you're like you 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.759 start committing to a movie and you're like, oh, it's 0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.759 not like good, I should have chosen the other one. 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.360 And I just feel like it's the same thing. Like 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:28.520 somebody looks at your profile and swipes right on you, 0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:31.080 but they're immediately looking at someone else's profile, so they're 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.120 not actually invested in you if they saw you in 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:36.279 real life, like there's a connection, and like you start 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:38.360 chatting and like you're the only one on their mind. 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.480 There's just too many options and everyone's always thinking they 0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:42.000 can do better. 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.400 Everyone always thinks the grass is greener, but it's just 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:45.560 not the truth. 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.120 What do you say that the grass is greener on 0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.480 the other side? Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree with that. 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:50.960 Yeah. 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.360 I get sometimes stuck in that way of thinking. 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:55.400 And I'm guilty of it as well. Yeah, because I'm 0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.200 swiping on profiles and I'm like yes, and then I'm 0:38:57.200 --> 0:38:59.439 already looking at someone else's profile. And I think there's 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.200 also like no, I was there's this girl called I 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:03.879 can't remember her name, but she has an account called 0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.400 cheek Media. Yeah, and she was saying about there not 0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:10.080 being any community accountability because often, like back in the day, 0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.279 a friend would set up a friend, So like you're 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.080 not going to go someone who your friend has set 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.719 you up with. You're going to actually commit and if 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:18.280 it doesn't work out, you're going to give a valid 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.160 reason to say there wasn't a connection. But because of 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.359 the apps, and it's same with Keyboard Warriors that we 0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:26.560 were talking about before. Yeah, but I get punish. 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:29.000 But on that so true. But on that comment though, 0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:32.440 in this world, because of social media, everyone knows fucking 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:36.840 everyone seriously, Like you talked to seven degrees of separation, 0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.680 he's now like three or four, and like it's going 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:41.319 to get out that you've go to someone. It's going 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.680 to like tell it, you know, So that is the 0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:44.160 same thing. 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:46.480 But then there is always someone else to swipe on. 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.080 So she're like, well we'll miss that one next one. 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:49.600 True. 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.600 The thing is that like no one it's such a 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:55.640 true statement, Like everyone always talks to us about this, 0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:57.520 like no one wants to settle down. Everyone thinks to 0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:02.600 grass is greener, but like people are they eventually settling 0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:03.879 down or are people just not. 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:05.080 Settling down anymore? 0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:07.440 Or people are just like open to just kind of 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:11.440 like keeping the door moving with casual relationships. 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:13.640 We're probably moving that way anyway, Like if we think 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.279 about how people are having kids later or people are 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.919 choosing not to have kids, like the way we're moving 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.239 in terms of like family life is really it has changed. Yeah, 0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:23.319 so that makes sense. 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.080 And a sex coach on and she was talking to 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:28.840 us a lot about how monogamy is kind of like 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.719 on the way out, and monogam mish is kind of. 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.279 In what is monogamish? 0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.359 So monogam mish is when you have a partner who 0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.959 you're committed to, but maybe guys will be like open 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:42.919 to threesomes together or or like one might be sex 0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:44.840 worker together, or one might. 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:46.600 Be working more. So you say, okay, well, if you 0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.279 need I might not have the sex drives might not 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:49.680 link up. 0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:54.440 So they go, okay, sex drive, find you needs elsewhere. Wow. Yeah, 0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.879 So that actually it comes up a lot when I'm 0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:59.040 there's a lot of people that write, yeah, I can't 0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.279 remember that means, but it's like something non monogamy, where 0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.439 like they're open. They're in a relationship, but they're open 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:05.560 to seeing people on the side. 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:06.080 Right. 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.120 Profiles like that have come up for me. Yeah, so yeah, 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:10.239 I see you being a trend. 0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.920 That's crazy. Hy could you do it? 0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:13.880 I'm so jealous. 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.240 We're both so jealous. 0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:22.520 I could be the one playing round. Absolutely, you can't thing. 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.960 It's like, are we really like in theory, it's good, 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:30.440 but like also like I don't think jealousy is that toxic. 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.839 Like we always talk about how toxic it is and 0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.520 we're the most jealous people ever. But actually, now that 0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.520 I've been thinking about it more recently, I don't actually 0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:39.400 think it's that toxic. 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:40.200 I think it's part of. 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:44.680 It. 0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.960 If you're not jealous, I don't care. 0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:50.839 Yeah, if it's someone that's jealous, might argue that they 0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.319 do care. They just have enough confidence in themselves and 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:56.640 in the relationship that the other person isn't going to 0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.040 do that. 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.960 Yeah, but that's called being secure, and like not all 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:01.200 it was secure. 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:05.040 You know what I mean? That depends on your personality type. 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:09.360 I have no idea. 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.760 Would you say you're secure in a relationship. 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:20.120 Yeah, yes, but it depends on how Yeah, it depends 0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.680 on the other person as well. And because my last 0:42:22.680 --> 0:42:25.080 partner was incredibly needy and so I was definitely the 0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:29.360 secure person, whereas like my relationship before that, I feel 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.400 like he was more secure than I was, but it 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.279 didn't necessarily make me needier. I just felt like his 0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:37.120 level of security was higher. Yeah, okay, but I think, yeah, 0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:40.399 I'm pretty confident and secure in a relationship. But it's 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.160 been so long, it's been so long that I don't 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:46.360 know if I'm like that anymore. Yeah, you know, but 0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:49.319 like I used to fall into relationships so quickly, like 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:51.399 I was like a serial monogamist, and I just went 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:53.759 from long term relationship to long term relationship, and now 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:57.600 I'm just like, what the fuck I had it together? 0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.680 Maybe I'm not so secure anymore, and everyone's like, she's 0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.040 a bit of secure damaged. 0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:06.400 I mean, I feel like, you know, stay if you're 0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:09.680 not a little bit insecure being in the dating pool 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.560 for that long, and there's something and it is. 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:16.000 Past traumas in dating that makes you so if you've. 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.920 Got baggage, baggage, I got my suitcases. 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:26.000 Yeah, these two reporters at the back of some more yeah. 0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:29.040 I was about to say, yeah, advance full of mine. 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:30.280 How you got here to Sydney. 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:33.480 Yeah. 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:35.600 Yeah. So you say you don't like dating apps, you 0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.480 don't go out. If you were out, would you be 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:39.720 able to go up to someone? Are you confident striking 0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:41.879 as a very person? Yeah? 0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:44.200 I could. And this is funny because You've actually touched 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:45.759 on a new type of content that I'm about to 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:47.279 make just because I want to see. 0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:50.359 I got the I've got the content, but just can't 0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:50.920 execute it. 0:43:50.960 --> 0:43:52.839 I'm going to do it. I'm going to ask people 0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.160 that in public. Yeah, I'm actually going to make content 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.360 out of it. So good. Not on dates, but I 0:43:58.400 --> 0:43:59.640 just want to like go to a dog park with 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.600 men and like cue i'd meet someone in real life, 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.279 but yes, I would do that. My issue now is that, like, 0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:08.200 I find the people that I like approach are like 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:21.080 twenty one, and I'm like, oh oh sorry, maybe. 0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:19.839 What age is your ideal partner if you had to 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.040 like pick the like optimum day. 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.600 I mean age over the age of twenty seven, okay, 0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.480 and I'm twenty nine. Yeah, so like, I mean, yes, 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.440 I would date younger than that, but I find that 0:44:31.000 --> 0:44:32.120 in a different stage of my. 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:33.880 Life, I think they'd be too young if you were 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:35.000 younger than twenty seven. 0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:37.319 I think maturity levels are real different. 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.560 And apparently men don't as fast as. 0:44:41.080 --> 0:44:47.200 Exactly easier to date like a woman. 0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.760 In some senses, they are more mature. 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:50.040 They are. 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.680 Yeah. Yeah, like when I was in my relationship with 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.040 my ex girlfriend. When it was good, it was great. 0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.600 It was just like a forever sleepover with your best friend. 0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.400 But then when it got bad, it was bad. And 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:01.839 I find that like fighting with a woman. 0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:04.480 Really yeah, trust me, I know. 0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:17.760 It's Yeah, two of us together, can you imagine us fighting? 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:20.520 It's just like silent treatment on the next level, we're 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.439 just both crying and not fighting, and just like crying 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.280 in the corner, not able to communicate our feelings. 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:25.400 What's your attachment style? 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:28.280 What are they? I can't remember. 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:32.960 You're anxious anxious. 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:35.960 Attachment and therapy I found out I'm anxious. Yes, I 0:45:35.960 --> 0:45:38.600 want to get it done right there and then you 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.120 dare walk away me as well. 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:43.400 Yeah, it was anxious attachment. 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:45.520 Actually know I need a little bit. 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:46.880 Yeah. And then it's avoidant. 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.480 Yes, I'm not avoidant. I will fight. I will fight. 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:51.080 If it's fight orf flight, I will fight. 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.759 Yeah, same, I think, Yeah, is that one. I think. 0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.080 I don't know why I'm like that because it's not 0:45:57.239 --> 0:46:04.440 me just chill like to go yeah, God he forgets. 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.759 I'm like, we fight all the time. 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:11.840 A woman that seems to get close to me I 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:20.560 bicker with. I don't know, is it me? Yeah? Yes, no, yes, 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:23.560 I think I grew up with a mom and two sisters. 0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:24.839 Yeah, used to women. 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.480 I'm used to just like you know, don't. 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:32.399 Take ship, yes, yeah, but you know people walking away 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:33.759 from you though, like you're just like you want to 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:34.280 get it sorted. 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:37.200 Yeah, because I sort of think, like, why why prolong this? 0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:37.560 Yeah? 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.239 Why with life so short? Like let's just knut it 0:46:40.239 --> 0:46:42.799 out and be cuddling again on the couch in like 0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:43.560 twenty minutes. 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.000 It's like, well, we don't cuddle on. 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.760 The like, you know, we go back to like benefiting 0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.720 us playing the podcast using that. 0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.680 But we like the fights. The fight is part of 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:55.160 the content. 0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:56.319 Yeah, I mean we do. 0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:58.319 Started it be fun. 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.200 Started we weren't that open with the fact that we 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:03.640 would fight all the time, and then it got to 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:05.279 a point where we weren't talking and we'd come into 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.000 the podcast like look at each other and we'd. 0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:08.239 Be like, and I was like me mad, I've just 0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:08.680 had a fight. 0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.440 No, no, before that that, we would fight for an 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.120 episode and then act like nothing could. 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:17.080 Happen, and it was just like, didn't feel since like 0:47:17.120 --> 0:47:17.799 we can't do it. 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.399 Then relieve and we just feel that was all right, okay. 0:47:21.880 --> 0:47:24.080 Later we kind of make up by the end of 0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:26.200 the podcast because we'd actually like find each other. 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:30.920 Sorry just turning into us, But we would argue on 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:34.879 the way into the podcast, like on the phone, get in, 0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.279 like sit down, all right, we're got to do. 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:38.280 This, guys. 0:47:38.280 --> 0:47:40.600 We're not like that, we realized. 0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:44.839 Honestly, I reckon your listeners would like the honesty, though, yeah, 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.040 because nobody is on or perfect one hundred percent of 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:49.080 the time when. 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.000 We're not on. Yeah, we wouldmit when we're not coming 0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:53.400 and I'll be like, yeah, I'm not on today. 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:58.919 Do you and your co host argue? No, See that's good. 0:47:59.080 --> 0:48:02.520 We disagree on topics, but no, it's mostly fun. Grace 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:05.600 and I worked together and we weren't friends outside of work. 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.080 This is my retail job until I asked her to 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.200 do this because I just like, I just was looking 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:12.759 for a co host and we just did a test 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:14.840 and I was like, hey, will you come in because 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:18.480 my two greatest friends that not to discount Grace as 0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:21.600 my co host, but like they would have been my besties. 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.319 Both moved to other countries. Wow. He's like, hey, Grace, 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:25.759 you want to come just do this test with me? 0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.200 And then the guys here were like, she's brilliant, and 0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.920 I was like, Grace, can you say she's amazing? I 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.279 love her. She's so good, like. 0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.360 Had a connection or chemistry, whether. 0:48:35.239 --> 0:48:38.960 It advantages great. Yeah, she's really funny. And we just 0:48:39.160 --> 0:48:41.920 our podcast, we just laugh about embarrassing stories, similar to 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:44.600 my Wei van story. It's just like we get the 0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:52.080 following the r Kelly Van. 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:58.080 What actually funny? I actually had his songs on Chef 0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:03.520 came in my playlist and I had to imagine if that. 0:49:03.520 --> 0:49:05.319 Song was playing while I was having sex with that 0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.360 man in the van, that would have been ironic, that 0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.120 would have been funny, that would have been. 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:11.640 Playing in the van. 0:49:11.840 --> 0:49:20.880 Or no silent just the waves of the ocean romantic, Yeah, exactly. 0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:21.560 Yeah. 0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:23.279 But Grace and I we're good. We're good, fine, we're 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:24.640 good friends, and we really fight. 0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.760 You were telling us before that Grace is now pregnant. 0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:30.360 She said she had a baby. Yeah, so end of 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:33.839 January she had her baby. Yes, Grace had a little boy. 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.920 She announced she was pregnant on episode three, so when 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:38.680 we first Saturday, I didn't know she was pregnant. And 0:49:38.719 --> 0:49:40.319 then my third recording, she's like, I have to do 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:43.600 it that pregnant and I was like, whoa, Okay, well 0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.359 she did do it on it h But then, like 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:47.880 the whole podcast, because we've been going for ten months, 0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.240 has been like her pregnancy journey, which has been fine, 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:53.520 but we have very contrasting views of dating and relationships 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.680 because she's engaged and has a baby and I'm severely single. 0:49:57.400 --> 0:49:59.440 So we have nice banter contrast. 0:49:59.440 --> 0:50:00.359 It's the perfect lage. 0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.320 It was accidental, but it was great. It was magic. 0:50:03.480 --> 0:50:04.160 That's awesome. 0:50:05.040 --> 0:50:06.719 Do you want to take us through what type of 0:50:06.760 --> 0:50:10.120 content you guys cover on the podcast? 0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:12.000 Yeah, for anyone who wants to listen. 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:14.080 Every episode, we do a thing called tell Me about It, 0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.839 which is similar to your hotline. Yeah, and we ask 0:50:17.320 --> 0:50:19.960 my followers on Instagram. I asked them to tell me 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:21.799 about a topic, and a lot of the time it 0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.000 revolves around dating, but sometimes we do like reasons you 0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.360 weren't friends with someone anymore, or like workplace horror stories, 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.840 puberty horror stories, and so like we'll have a different 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.200 the theme for every episode, and we basically just read 0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:39.360 embarrassing stories and we just laughed. It's a really long story, 0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:41.799 but I just released the edit on my Instagram this 0:50:41.880 --> 0:50:43.839 week and it just went off. It was this girl 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.759 in puberty. She was thirteen and she went to like 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:48.680 a theme park and she was wearing like a really 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:52.360 loose bra, and she developed big boobs really early. She 0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:54.799 was like a dcup and she was thirteen. She went 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.160 on one of those like claw shape rights and the 0:50:58.200 --> 0:50:59.919 ones where they strap you in and like it goes 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:02.080 so fast you have like no control over your limbs 0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.279 and everything like flaps around. And as soon as the 0:51:04.400 --> 0:51:08.040 ride started, her boobs came completely out of her shirt 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:11.399 and her bra and they were like flying around mid air. 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:14.120 She because her arms she had no control, she couldn't 0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.520 hold them, she couldn't hold them in and because of 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.040 like this claw, she was in this like circle. So 0:51:19.160 --> 0:51:25.200 everyone everyone, She's in this huge circle, so everyone's watching, 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:26.840 but she couldn't move her head, so she was just 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.839 like locked in this eye. Like this is her just 0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:34.040 fucking flopping. That's her, that's actions she needs to go 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:34.600 to therapy. 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:42.399 If you were sitting off too, you can't move, you're 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:45.399 just like, ah, yeah, poor girl. 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:47.319 And then like we were saying, we were laughing because 0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.520 like once it stops, it kind of stops mid air 0:51:49.560 --> 0:51:53.480 and like slowly returns to the ground. Imagine if like 0:51:53.520 --> 0:51:55.440 you still couldn't and you had to wait for the 0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.200 guy to release you from the seat before you could 0:51:58.239 --> 0:51:59.160 tuck your boobies in. 0:52:00.200 --> 0:52:04.320 Such a shame I feel soothing. That's actually fun. 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:06.560 No, at any age that would have been fucked, but 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.400 at thirteen that's worse. Yeah, but we love that she 0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:11.120 had a sense of humor and she sent that story 0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.000 in for us to laugh about. So that's kind of 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.440 the stories we get, or like we stories lots of 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:17.120 Pooh stories. 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.400 We had a poo story, Hote. 0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:22.479 We talk about pool almost every episode. It's fun. It's fun. 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.279 I mean, we don't want to turn this into a 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:26.040 poo episode. 0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:30.719 Okay, get away, get away from the feces. We had 0:52:30.840 --> 0:52:33.280 a story we did a wedding episode about like weddings 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:36.600 being stupid and like horror stories from weddings and this guy, 0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:41.600 her boyfriend had like soiled himself, shout his pants and 0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.920 put his soiled underwear in her handbag. And he realized 0:52:44.920 --> 0:52:46.240 when they were going home, why. 0:52:46.120 --> 0:52:47.160 Would he keep the underwear? 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:47.480 I don't know. 0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:48.839 Do you want to throw the new case? 0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:53.640 I don't know. When they were going home, they realized 0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:55.319 that they weren't in her handbag, he put them in 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:56.080 someone else's head. 0:52:58.400 --> 0:52:59.200 That's fun. 0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.879 Imagine your Louis And there's a fair of us. 0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:05.839 Did I piss off? 0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:05.960 Like? 0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:06.560 What the heck? 0:53:06.840 --> 0:53:07.879 That's actually cool? 0:53:07.920 --> 0:53:09.120 What a weird wedding favor. 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.000 We were listening to your podcast this morning, but I'm 0:53:12.000 --> 0:53:14.520 gonna have to tune in more often than while. 0:53:14.600 --> 0:53:15.279 The good fun. 0:53:15.400 --> 0:53:18.359 Okay, we have a couple of listener questions for you 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:24.920 that we're gonna ask you next. Okay, so one of 0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:27.680 our listeners have asked, even although you seem to have 0:53:27.800 --> 0:53:31.480 it all together, tell us about one of the things 0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:34.080 that you struggle most with adulting. 0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:38.600 I don't have it together. Like, if that's what it 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:41.440 seems like, that's hilarious and thank you so much, but 0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:43.880 I am such a hot mess. Like I just think that, 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:47.120 like most of the adulting things, I just procrastinate, like 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:55.080 accounting finances, savings return when I now have an accountant 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:57.000 who does it. But like I had a conversation with 0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:58.520 my account at the other day and I was like, 0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.640 I don't know, I'm holding the phone. I'm just gonna 0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:01.640 understand what you're talking about it. 0:54:01.880 --> 0:54:03.640 All I say is I don't get paid to do this. 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:07.400 You do exactly I would be doing this, That's right, I. 0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:10.120 Tell them, I don't need to think about it. You 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:10.880 went to school for this. 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:12.839 I don't have to understand that that I'm paying you 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:16.279 to know nderstand it though, to be honest. 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:20.359 Yeah, And I just like, look, what is that? 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:21.879 What is that? 0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.120 I said? Most of it, cleaning, cooking, all of it. Like, 0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:26.719 I just I think that once I get my dog, 0:54:26.760 --> 0:54:28.360 I'm going to have to really grow up because I 0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:30.720 have another mom. I'm going to be a mom mummy. 0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:32.879 Do you think that the dog will make you more 0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:35.120 responsible and teach responsibilities? 0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:40.040 Yeah, because also I'm responsible for someone else. I also 0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:41.720 think it's going to do great things for my mental 0:54:41.760 --> 0:54:43.960 health because I'm gonna like be forced to leave the 0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:47.000 house because right now I think that like in terms 0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:48.719 of being an adult, I know what's best for me, 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:49.920 but I'm not going to do it because I'm just 0:54:49.920 --> 0:54:52.279 too lazy and I'm just like, I know that getting 0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:53.920 out of the house and going for a walk for 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.799 that stupid mental health walk is going to be better 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:56.840 for me. But I'm not going to do it. 0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:58.440 But if I have a dog, then you have to 0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.879 you have to do it bad because okay, fine, I'll 0:55:01.880 --> 0:55:02.160 take you. 0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:04.680 Yeah, but yeah, no, none of it's together. And that's why, 0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:07.640 like a lot of my skits is about being a mess, 0:55:07.719 --> 0:55:09.879 because it's like literally my life. I love it. 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:11.440 I feel like we're all in there right. 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:12.640 Nobody want to get by. 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:15.160 No one knows what they're doing. 0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:18.800 Yeah, you have no idea. 0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:21.279 And when we were the kids though, and you saw 0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:23.360 people our age, they were like, oh they know what 0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:23.839 they're doing. 0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.520 My dad. My dad had me and my sister at 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:31.160 my age. What the fuck? How are you twenty seven? Yeah, 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:31.799 twenty eight? 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.600 Yeah? My tap was twenty four. 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:36.640 Yeah. Yeah, I think you got married at like twenty 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:38.919 four was a couple of years oldience twenty six. 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:41.080 Babies, it's crazy cool. 0:55:41.239 --> 0:55:46.440 I was been drinking at like something like not having kids. Yeah, 0:55:47.040 --> 0:55:47.760 it's why. 0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:50.560 I am a baby. I can't have no how, I 0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:53.040 don't know. It's a different time. Yeah, it's a different time. 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:53.879 It is a different time. 0:55:53.960 --> 0:55:56.160 I have a question, Yes, would you ever do a 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.240 stand up routine? Because you're abviously quite funny. 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.120 I get asked this all the time. Maybe I think. 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.440 That, Okay, I want to do one. By the end 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:05.399 of the you do you want to do one? 0:56:05.440 --> 0:56:08.680 If we'll both do one, she would. 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:09.760 Do one, like at the same thing. 0:56:09.680 --> 0:56:13.600 If we're both bad, though, I want funds, actually actually 0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.120 want like if i'd be bad, that's part of it. 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:17.919 Be bad. 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:21.319 If I'm bad, Sorry, I've already got started. Well, but 0:56:21.360 --> 0:56:22.879 what I'm literal going to come out, my opening line 0:56:22.880 --> 0:56:25.799 would be I am not trained, like, leave now. If 0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:28.080 you want to get a refund, I'll pay your tickets. 0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:31.239 But my opening line opportunity. 0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:33.239 Yeah, yeah, I think so, I like. 0:56:33.320 --> 0:56:33.640 I think. 0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:36.239 The only thing I would like hate the rejection. I 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:37.680 don't know how I would handle it. 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:38.640 I'll be there. 0:56:38.800 --> 0:56:41.480 I'll just paid actors put you in the audience just 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:42.239 to get him going. 0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:45.440 Well, yeah, nothing. Your friends would be there to. 0:56:45.560 --> 0:56:48.600 Support you, and surely you get recognized all the time 0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:49.320 from TikTok. 0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:51.960 Yeah all the time. Really, it happens on my dating 0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:53.719 apps now too, which is a bit of a weirdo. 0:56:53.880 --> 0:56:55.360 Don't you've got a link straight to. 0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:02.239 Photo? Is just a video all my skiffs. No, I 0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:04.239 try to like not make it seem that way, but 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:06.640 when people like match or like like my profile, they'll 0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:07.920 write a comment and I'm just like, I don't know 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.360 if that's turning me off or not, but yeah, it 0:57:11.360 --> 0:57:11.920 happens a lot. 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.720 How do you like announce to the people you're dating 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:15.319 what you do? 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.640 I haven't I had them, I have social media. Most 0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:24.920 of the time, they'll they'll either be two people people 0:57:24.960 --> 0:57:27.440 that like understand and know who I am when we 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:29.840 match and they've seen like they've seen me pop up, 0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:31.400 or they'll be like, oh, I recognize you. I thought 0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:34.280 I knew your face and if they weren't, like a follower, 0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:36.400 and then people who were just like I don't even 0:57:36.400 --> 0:57:38.200 know what that is. I don't have social media, so like, 0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:39.160 I don't even understand. 0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:40.200 What one do you prefer? 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.240 You probably the one who does know, because one time 0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:45.800 I had a date with a guy who knew nothing, 0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.680 and like, I like, we ran out of conversation because 0:57:48.720 --> 0:57:50.640 I was like, I literally cannot tell you about my job, 0:57:50.680 --> 0:57:53.160 Like you don't actually understand or have an interest in 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.880 what I do, and this is like my whole life. 0:57:54.880 --> 0:57:56.120 So like how we meant. 0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:57.480 To What did he do for a job? 0:57:57.800 --> 0:57:59.520 I can't even remember, but he was one of those 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:01.640 like it does drink coffee, but he has coco powder 0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:03.200 with lukewarm water and shots it in them. 0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.360 That's enough, that's enough to. 0:58:09.760 --> 0:58:14.160 Not leader well. Actually the whole day he just told 0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:20.720 me what he ate that day, ingredient by ingredient, so 0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.880 like he's like, kaoe, spinach chili, and I was like, 0:58:24.880 --> 0:58:26.120 I'm not calorie. 0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:30.760 Look in the sauna here. This whole podcast, it is 0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:31.520 very hot. 0:58:31.600 --> 0:58:34.200 So we are going to go, but we are now 0:58:34.280 --> 0:58:37.560 going on Maddie's podcast. Sure you tuned into that one 0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:41.800 as well. If more content from the three of us, Maddie, 0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:45.320 thank you so much pleasure the podcast. 0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:46.120 It's very fun.