1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: From the Australian Hiss. What's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: It's Thursday, May twenty three. One hundred thousand Chinese students 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: have swollen the ranks of foreign enrollments at Australia's elite universities. 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: The Australian dot com dot U is revealing today new 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: figures showing overseas enrollments are at their highest ever level 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: for this time of year. The federal government is at 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: war with a tribunal after it released an immigration detainee 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: who'd been convicted of domestic violence offending and now has 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: been charged with murder. The tribunal blamed the minister, and 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: the Coalition says it demonstrates labor has lost control of 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: the detention system. Singapore Airlines is scrambling to recover from 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: a devastating mid air accident that killed one passenger and 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: injured dozens. It was via turbulence, So what caused it 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: and what can passengers do to stay safe? That's today's episode. 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: They'll come about sing of our airlines. As the safety 16 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: equip mentioned, this aircraft may differ from that on other aircraft. 17 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Please give us your attention. 18 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: We've all heard this announcement, and we've all probably rolled 19 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: our eyes at the spiel. 20 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: And the unlikely event off in the emergency or when 21 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: you hear to command brace brace, assume the brace position. 22 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Airlines try to make the safety videos fun in the 23 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: hope passengers actually watch, and there's a breed of flight 24 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: attendant who knows how to get everyone's attention. 25 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: That we're going to show you how to. 26 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: Fact and make three. 27 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 4: If you're coming with children or anyone that's acting like one, 28 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: make sure you put your own mask personal, look to 29 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: the letter and look to the raid, and then choose 30 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 4: the one with the most earning predential after college, and 31 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: then work. 32 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: The beautiful bikini is a quickleather the water active beat 33 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: it late. 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: How in the world that works, They have no idea, 35 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 3: So if you figure it out, please do let me know. 36 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 3: And if my chanswers does not in plate, well, grab 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: your neighbor and hold on for dear lady. 38 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: It's all very entertaining, but maybe we should have been 39 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: paying attention all along. On Tuesday night, Singapore Airlines flight 40 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: s K three two one suddenly became seriously scary. 41 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 5: As seventy three year old man has died when a 42 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: flight from London to Singapore experienced extreme and sudden turbulence. 43 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 5: The Singapore Airlines flight with fifty six Australians on board 44 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: an emergency landing in Bangkok. Dozens of other passengers have 45 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: been taken to hospital as well, including seven people who 46 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 5: were critically injured. 47 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Passengers have since spoken out about those horrifying few moments. 48 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 6: It was instantaneous, It really was in horrible. 49 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 4: The entire thing happened within the span of less than 50 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: ten seconds, Like it was really really quick. 51 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: And I ended up pitching my head on the ceiling. 52 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 5: Some four people are walking around, ended up doing somersaults. 53 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: I saw people come across the aisle just like going 54 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: completely horizontal, hitting the ceiling and landing back down and 55 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: like really a positions. 56 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Robin Ironside is the Australian's aviation writer Robin This must 57 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: have been a terrifying incident for the people on board. 58 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely to be having your breakfast to you two hours 59 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: from your destination, I should imagine people would have been 60 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: fairly calm and then all of a sudden, absolute chaos 61 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: breaks loose. Everything's flying through the air, including people, and 62 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: nobody actually knew sort of why it was happening and 63 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: when it would end, and it certainly looked very ugly. 64 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: The plane was over me and mar at the time, 65 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: flying from London to Singapore, and there were reports that 66 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: there were thunderstorms in the area at the time. What 67 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: do we know about what happened exactly and why. 68 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: We have seen the radar images which suggest there was 69 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: some thunderstorm activity. Normally pilots would try to avoid flying 70 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: close to a thunderstorm so they weren't subject to any 71 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: sort of turbulence. So we don't really know what was 72 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: in the pilot's minds if they were attempting to go 73 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: around a thunderstorm and just clipped the outer edges of it. 74 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 3: Speaking to pilots today that have suggested that even the 75 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: kilometers from a thunderstorm, you can still experience some of 76 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: the effects in the plane, which you think this plane 77 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: might have experienced those effects. 78 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: At seven forty nine am, the Boeing Triple seven three 79 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: hundred er suddenly went up about fourteen hundred feet and 80 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: then down about eighteen hundred feet. For a bit of context, 81 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: the World Trade Center towers in Manhattan were just over 82 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred feet high. The Sydney Harbor bridge rises about 83 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: four hundred and forty feet from the water. This is 84 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: fourteen hundred feet up, then eighteen hundred feet down in 85 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: a second or two, and then four minutes later the 86 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: plane descended another six thousand feet, but this was the 87 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: pilots beginning their emergency controlled descent into Bangkok. Singapore air 88 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: Lines is regarded as one of the safest airlines in 89 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: the world. The last time it experienced a major incident 90 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: was two thousand, when a plane bound for Los Angeles 91 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: smashed into construction equipment at a Taiwan airport after it 92 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: tried to take off from the wrong runway. More than 93 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: eighty people died. 94 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 3: They've got a really good safety records, Singapore Airlines, so 95 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: it's a terrible blow for them. Their CEO made a 96 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 3: video address. They've been doing fairly regular updates on their 97 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: Facebook page as well as on other social media platforms 98 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 3: to inform people of what's happening with that particular flight 99 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: and with the people on board. 100 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: On behalf of Singapore Airlines, I would like to express 101 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 6: my deepest condolences to the family and loved ones of 102 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 6: the DC's We are very sorry for the traumatic experience 103 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 6: that everyone on board as Q three to one went through. 104 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: I think they'll be looking very closely at exactly what 105 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: happened and to ensure something like this never happens again. 106 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: So what is turbulence? There are different types. One is 107 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: called clear air turbulence. It's virtually invisible to pilots and 108 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: happens when air is moving inside the jet streams. They're 109 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: the high altitude air currents that ring the globe up 110 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: where planes travel. Then there's the kind of turbulence encountered 111 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: by this Singapore air Lines flight. It's caused by moisture 112 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: in the air from storm activity. Normally, is turbulence dangerous. 113 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: There's certainly a lot of different variations in turbulence. As 114 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: you described. You know that that feeling when your stomach drops, 115 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: I mean that's probably considered a fairly mild form of turbulence, 116 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: whereas this is probably at the other end of the scale. 117 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: A lot of flights do experience turbulence, and pilots do 118 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: plan the journey around that. They do try to minimize 119 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: it as much as possible. But aircraft are built to 120 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: withstand a lot of force. They are built to withstand 121 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: such turbulence as they experienced on this particular flight and 122 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: fly through it intact. 123 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: Coming up what we should be doing to stay safe 124 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: in the air. 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In January, a panel 133 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: suddenly flew off a Boeing plane mid flight. 134 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 7: Passengers in the United States have survived a terrifying mid 135 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 7: air remergency, and Alaska Airlines flight bound for California was 136 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 7: forced to make an emergency landing in Oregon after the 137 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 7: door of a brand new aircraft blew out. 138 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: This thing for Airlines flight was a Boeing aircraft. Boeing's 139 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: having a tough year, isn't it. Would there be anything 140 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: to do with the make of this aircraft that has 141 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: contributed to this? Do you think, Robin No, I don't 142 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: think so. 143 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: In this instance. I think it's probably just a bit 144 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: of bad luck for Boeing. Again, I'm sure they weren't 145 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: terribly thrilled to hear that it was a Boeing Triple 146 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 3: seven that was involved in this incident. Boeing have thousands 147 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: of aircraft that fly around the world every day, as 148 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: do Airbus, and it was just probably unlucky that this 149 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: particular incident involved a Boeing Triple seven. 150 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: I remember reading an article by a pilot talking about 151 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: turbul and why it was nothing to worry about, and 152 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: he compared it to being in a boat on a 153 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: slightly bumpy lake. He said, the plane's going to bump 154 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: up and down a little bit, but you're completely safe. 155 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: You know, you're not going to fall out of the sky. 156 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: Is that still right? 157 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: Well, you'd certainly like to think so. And just given 158 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: the safety record of jet aircraft, it's quite incredible. Last 159 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: year and twenty twenty three there were no fatal jet 160 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: airliner incidents. It's quite extraordinary. So far on twenty twenty four, 161 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: we'll have to say that there has been one fatality 162 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: with this unfortunate gentleman on this particular flight. So I 163 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: guess we're already doing worse than we did the previous year, 164 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: but it's still incredibly safe. When you think of the 165 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: billions and millions of people who fly every day and 166 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: the very low level of incidents, it's much safer than 167 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: getting in your car and driving to work. 168 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: So how important are those safety briefings? 169 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: I think the main takeaway that is the seat belt. 170 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully we won't have to worry about if 171 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: the oxygen masks fall down. Hopefully we won't have to 172 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 3: worry about that life jacket and be relying on that 173 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: little light and whistle. I wouldn't like to test it out, 174 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: but the seat belt is something that you can control. 175 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, seat belts are an important safety feature of cars. 176 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: They're just as important, if not more so, in planes. 177 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: So the idea is to keep them on anytime that 178 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: you're sitting down, but they understand that every now and 179 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: then you might have to get up stretch your legs. 180 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: But if you keep your seat belt on when you're 181 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 3: sitting down, that's the best protection that you have from turbulence. 182 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Why do you think this story is taken off so much? 183 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm certainly reading everything I can find about it. 184 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 3: I think It's one of those things because we all 185 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: do travel on planes at some stage, and the idea 186 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: of being in that very closed environment in such a 187 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: terrifying situation. I think it's something that we can all 188 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 3: relate to a little bit and is one of our 189 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: worst fears. I mean, as a bit of a nervous flyer, 190 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: I really don't like turbulence at all, So the idea 191 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: of having your flight turn into like a rollercoaster ride 192 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 3: is really horrifying. It's like anything that happens at aviations. 193 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:20,239 Speaker 3: It's the unusualness of it, but still it's still familiar 194 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: in a lot of ways. So I think that's what 195 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: makes it resonate with a lot of people. 196 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: Robin, I feel terrible that we've made you be aviation 197 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: writer when you're a nervous flyer. Does a job caused 198 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: this or is it a coincidence. 199 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: It's a very mild level of anxiety that I experience. 200 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 3: I have to say, it's just you know, when that 201 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: turbulence strikes, though, I always do feel a bit uneasy. 202 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, probably everyone experiences a sense of unease, 203 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: but yeah, I just think, oh, maybe I'm not such 204 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: a confident flyer as I like to think I. 205 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: Am Robin Iroinside is the Australian's aviation reporter, come back 206 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: to the front to borrow for the big reveal. 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