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Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Gene Hackman and the passing of Gene

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Speaker 2: Hackman the age of ninety five. Now, it's an interesting

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Speaker 2: story fits because a caretaker has discovered the bodies of

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Speaker 2: Gene Hackman. As we learn overnight, Betsy, his wife, and

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Speaker 2: also one of their three dogs, has found them all deceased.

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Speaker 2: So a confronted for the caretaker arriving on the property.

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Speaker 3: The bodies had been there for two weeks, so we're

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Speaker 3: trying to get more information here. Betsy was found in

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Speaker 3: the bathroom surrounded by pills. Jeene was found in the

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Speaker 3: mudroom of the kitchenes he is believed to have fallen.

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Speaker 3: The dog was found in a bathroom closet. There were

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Speaker 3: no signs of a gas leak or carbon monoxide poisoning,

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Speaker 3: and bodies were like you said, we're found by the

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Speaker 3: maintenance workers and they've been there for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting stories in it obviously just developed throughout

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Speaker 3: the day, and you'll hear more on Nova because he

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Speaker 3: was an unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yes he was. I mean we can celebrate some of

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Speaker 2: his films on a Crimson Todd, which had Denzel Washington

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Speaker 2: and it was a massive film. You really, dear position Cobb,

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Speaker 2: remove mister Hunter from the control room.

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Speaker 3: Can Lieutenant Zimmer here right now?

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Speaker 1: No, sir, I do not concur and I do not

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Speaker 1: recognize your authority to relieve me.

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Speaker 3: On the command, on the Navy regulations cob arrestless man out,

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Speaker 3: getting out of there, and the operating procedures governing the

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Speaker 3: release of nuclear weapons, we cannot launch our missions.

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Speaker 1: Let both you and.

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Speaker 3: I agree, sir.

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Speaker 1: This is expressly why your command must be reviewed.

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Speaker 2: Everything great, huge film highlight.

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Speaker 3: Best one for me was any if you get a

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Speaker 3: chance this week in to watch Enemy of the State

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Speaker 3: with Will Smith. That was an unbelieve We get a

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Speaker 3: little bit of that one, Jess lot mean federal agents

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Speaker 3: you had following you on that ferry.

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Speaker 1: I don't let me working for me?

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Speaker 3: You're talking about I'm not where is this about me?

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Speaker 3: My target here? Do they know me?

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Speaker 1: Who is David?

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Speaker 3: Do they know me? I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: And the other one as well, which I think was

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Speaker 3: nominated for an OSCAR, was Mississippi Burning with William Dafoe

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Speaker 3: like he was an unbelievable actor. Gene Hackman, Well.

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Speaker 2: He won two Oscars, but he was ninety five years old.

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Speaker 2: So your mind runs when you hear a story like this,

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Speaker 2: because Betsy was only sixty three, So I mean, your

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Speaker 2: mind jumps to or it would be natural for somebody

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Speaker 2: around the age of ninety five to pass away if

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Speaker 2: there's pills involved. Maybe she thought, if Jean's gone, I'm going.

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Speaker 2: But I'm confused by the position of the dog because

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Speaker 2: when I first read that the dog had died as well,

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Speaker 2: I thought, I maybe the dog ate some of the pills,

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Speaker 2: if that's the case of what the pills were. But

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Speaker 2: for the dog to be in a cupboard or a

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Speaker 2: closet is really confusing.

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Speaker 3: My biggest fears is not being found in your house,

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Speaker 3: and this is it's quite sad. Well obviously you're not

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Speaker 3: going to know, but it's quite sad that these people

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Speaker 3: don't have anyone checking on them for weeks, especially when

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Speaker 3: he's ninety five years of art age. Wouldn't there be

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Speaker 3: family just seeing if Gene is okay.

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Speaker 2: Like I said to Tommy before, I said, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I've seen a photo of Gene Hackman in his

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Speaker 2: older years and Tommy was saying he was quite a recluse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a photo came out of he and

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Speaker 1: Betsy last year. I think that was the last picture.

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Speaker 1: I think when they went to the supermarket. He looked yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean last night when the story broke fits too.

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Speaker 2: It was saying that there was no suspicious circumstances, but

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Speaker 2: they're now saying that there are suspicious circumstances. I suppose

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Speaker 2: that would have been with the discovery of the pills.

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Speaker 2: But they're also trying to attain some further warrants to

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Speaker 2: look further into the property. Is they investigate Detective Whipfley.

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Speaker 3: That's a great picture, just reading off the sheep, right, Okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: So that's this story will develop. But you just wonder

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Speaker 2: the stages of events. I suppose it's very sad and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't have a shadow the care well.

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Speaker 3: Because when we first read it, you were thinking of

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Speaker 3: you know that the stories of couples passing away together

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Speaker 3: and you do hear about this with a broken heart

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Speaker 3: that you hear before. But we'll keep you updated throughout

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Speaker 3: the data.

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Speaker 2: Can I just ask Tommy because the article went on

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Speaker 2: and I think it was misleading because there were a

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Speaker 2: few heads that turned when we read it saying that

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Speaker 2: she was found part mummified. Yes, now that is not

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Speaker 2: in the traditional sense of what you might think is

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Speaker 2: an Egyptian mummification.

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Speaker 1: Whip thought a few people thought. Whip came into the

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Speaker 1: office and he said, oh my gosh, this gene Hagman's story,

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Speaker 1: and what's with her turning into a mummy? He thought,

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Speaker 1: she and not that we're making light of it, but

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Speaker 1: Fraser up, Yeah, that's the kind of situation that Whip

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Speaker 1: thought was going on.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't. I mean, if an American Egyptian. No,

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Speaker 2: what they were saying is she was decomposed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: But they used the term mummified, yeah, which confused.

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Speaker 2: You, which I thought was abounding. Yeah, mummifications about it's

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Speaker 2: abounding film.

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Speaker 1: It was just just an American way way of words.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say that in case anyone's reading

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Speaker 2: it and goes, momma phied man, that's weird.

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Speaker 3: No one's reading that.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people getting to work right now going

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Speaker 2: oh my god, was she wrapped in bandages? Well, she wasn't.

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Speaker 2: An American term for decomposing a couple of in Whipper

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